Grandmasters and Engines Couldn't Solve This Puzzle. Then Came The Magician
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@judecatanyag6804 3 роки тому
White: Call an ambulance *14 moves later* White: But not for me
@sidekick8983 3 роки тому
Underrated the comment and the move
@rahulpanjwani5765 3 роки тому
😂😂
@chessdawg2459 3 роки тому
Only if white was Tal tho
@Rishi-nv7bp 3 роки тому
Lmaoooo
@isaacquadros898 3 роки тому
Best caption on this Channel
@praneethb8037 4 роки тому
Black: Lol I'm going to get 4 queen's if you don't resign White: knights* Black: What?? White: Fasten your seatbelts
@vidlight 4 роки тому
2 queens not 4
@nathanbates9561 4 роки тому
@@vidlight He was talking about all of the black pawns queening rather than just the two that knighted.
@VishnuVardhan-bd4cz 4 роки тому
🤣
@_Galexo 4 роки тому
White: Mate in 14 Black: Wtf, now way I'll take that long! White: Who's talking about you?
@user-qk1ui7vl1u 4 роки тому
This puzzle has been called (( Georgian farmer)).
@ProwardGameplay 3 роки тому
Of course Tal is the one to solve the puzzle where you have to sacrifice half of your remaining pieces while already heavily down in material to win the game.
@andromedasky4055 2 роки тому
i search it and yes... Tal solve it... just amazing
@ashutoshkaushal8657 2 роки тому
I was gonna comment the same thing 🤣🤣🤣🤣👌🏼👌🏼👌🏼
@stelixhyx808 2 роки тому
Wheres your pfp from Proward?
@palbi 2 роки тому
Tal's is such a beautiful chess mind. He lives deep in a dark forest in his head. Not much can survive there.
@psymar Рік тому
@@andromedasky4055 well and also the title says "The Magician"; Tal was "The Magician of Riga"
@nikosandrianopoulos4185 3 роки тому
Bishop : "can someone stop spawning these damn horses so I can do my job?"
@-petrichor-7263 3 роки тому
Black:NOPE
@JohnPaulBuce 3 роки тому
stop horsing around please
@thegirrafe2828 3 роки тому
😂😂😂😂😂
@kennethonwuachu6372 2 роки тому
Still laughing 😅🤣😂😆
@verifiedgentlemanbug Рік тому
🤣🤣🤣😂😂🤣
@GLOKD 4 роки тому
One of the most under-rated aspects of this channel is the perfect pronunciation of all the difficult Eastern names.
@episodex 4 роки тому
Because he is from Eastern Europe? I was more surprised how he pronounced the Dutch name :).
@GLOKD 4 роки тому
@@episodex Eastern Europe is not a monolithic bloc - it has many disparate languages and cultures.
@episodex 4 роки тому
@@GLOKD I know. I'm from Eastern Europe :). But it's far easier for me to pronounce slavic names from other slavic countries than Dutch, German or Nordic ones. Dutch is especially tricky because G is pronounced as slavic H.
@GLOKD 4 роки тому
@@episodex Good point.
@episodex 4 роки тому
@@singingintherain4750 :D your names are impossible for us, Eastern Europeans haha. I work daily with Belgians, oh my it's awkward on calls sometimes when trying to mention someone...
@vignjev8332 4 роки тому
Imagine how badass you are if you come as journalist to tournament end up playing it and finishing 6th
@3vimages471 4 роки тому
But he is Tal.
@andrewptob 4 роки тому
And then solving this puzzle
@nephronpie8961 4 роки тому
@@andrewptob But then again, he is Tal.
@fadzlyhaqimi9603 4 роки тому
@@3vimages471 and he's not in his prime at this time
@subhajitsupakar5957 4 роки тому
@@fadzlyhaqimi9603but for the last time he was Tal
@chroma2992 3 роки тому
His hair really said: “ ^ “
@Winnersneverquit19 3 роки тому
Lmao😂🤣
@revimfadli4666 3 роки тому
Jimmy Neutron's hair in the cartoon: 🍦 Jimmy's hair IRL:
@BobJones-bh9qz 3 роки тому
__^ __ (• - •)
@daviddiaz3771 3 роки тому
Rocking that bishop haircut
@hanihani9029 2 роки тому
@@daviddiaz3771 LMFAO
@jeffreyjohnson7359 3 роки тому
I'm proud of myself, I guessed the first move!
@patrickinocencio2305 3 роки тому
Yeah me too
@ethand.5937 3 роки тому
Same!
@SC87Gold 3 роки тому
I guessed first 4
@ilikeanimals5015 3 роки тому
@@SC87Gold bro nice
@decafcoffee0935 3 роки тому
Ugh I though bc2
@RamiroBrandan 4 роки тому
White: Mate in 14 Black: Wtf, now way I'll take that long! White: Who's talking about you?
@GreyWind 4 роки тому
lmao
@koolaidjerk 4 роки тому
Sorry to be that guy, but it isn't mate in 14 necessarily because black does not have to follow that sequence of plays. There were possible lines from black that let white get a queen that doesn't lose the game this way that could take longer than 14 moves.
@elviejohg744 4 роки тому
@@koolaidjerk I'm a chess beginner, can you tell me why this is the solution to the puzzle if there are another set of moves that will make it last longer? How do they know they reached the solution?
@koolaidjerk 4 роки тому
@@elviejohg744 With two good players, if white gets a queen they will win basically 100% of the time. So to prevent that black has to play the way described in the video, which results in the mate in 14 sequence. However, if black just lets white get the queen white will be massively ahead, but it could take longer than 14 moves to get the checkmate.
@ILoveHuskies1 4 роки тому
@@koolaidjerk Couldn't you just move up blacks pawns so that black also has at least one queen to work with and more overall pieces?
@Jackamono 4 роки тому
I think he’s slowly becoming a chess piece
@uzumakinaruto3628 3 роки тому
Or the game itself
@sufiana925 3 роки тому
🤣🤣🤣
@thomaspickles1630 3 роки тому
Most underrated UKposts comment of the year.
@shanybiran468 3 роки тому
Bishop! Look at that hair
@ed13sfeir 3 роки тому
That made me laugh for 4 minutes straight lol
@ethan2123 3 роки тому
I can’t wait to show this puzzle to my friends at the bar/library
@deepjyotipandit7840 3 роки тому
I see what you did there. Lol
@og8263 3 роки тому
I guess you can wait
@hytf2797 3 роки тому
You mean the LiBARy?
@bait5257 3 роки тому
I didn't get this
@urallnoobs8943 3 роки тому
@@bait5257 Watch the video where he explains the meaning of Agadmator
@arcadiotorres4964 3 роки тому
Engines- Nobody will solve this Tal- So I took that personally
@rdanimetalks7964 2 роки тому
Underrated Comment!!
@sudiptadey8070 Рік тому
He was a once in a while talent..crafted by the GOD of chess himself..no one will ever come close to him
@noticeboard249 Рік тому
Tal- I am Nobody.
@fsrodeo81 Рік тому
Agadmator:" I give you few seconds to solve this"
@Star17Platinum17 7 місяців тому
I am a nobody
@philipwilson46 4 роки тому
There was a Queen Sac involved - Of course Tal would find the solution!
@nelmarroda8074 4 роки тому
Lmao
@athilesh 4 роки тому
@@nelmarroda8074 VERY TRUE
@DJHastingsFeverPitch 4 роки тому
ROFL
@magnafire1 4 роки тому
I know it's a joke but he did find the solution after walking away talking to himself. Lol. TAL: I know you want the queen sac self, but no matter how bad you want to get rid of her, the mate is going to have to be with the bishop if you want to crack it.
@magnafire1 4 роки тому
Then he comes to his senses and comes back with a disturbed grin on his face and says, I'm going to let her live. I found the solution.
@PushyPawn 4 роки тому
I think more credit for this puzzle goes to the composer. Ok, solving this is hard but who can come up with such a thing?
@deeptangakalita3328 4 роки тому
Do you wanna live forever?
@danieldenizman7790 4 роки тому
yeah, amazing creativity
@cerievans4099 4 роки тому
My guess in the the composer started with the end position and worked backwards to arrive at the starting position. It still doesn't detract from his ingenuity.
@strivin4 3 роки тому
Epic Mann.
@Pascal-md9os 3 роки тому
Gijs van Breukeln can
@caspera3193 3 роки тому
Just imagine what an upset this puzzle would cause if this position would be reached in an actual game.
@dallaswood4117 3 роки тому
i was wondering that, it's one thing to throw the pieces out there and call it a puzzle, but what in an actual game would or could lead to this scenario
@vikraal6974 3 роки тому
Remember Tal took time to solve it
@aleks-lj9yq 3 роки тому
@@vikraal6974 he solved it very fast
@vikraal6974 3 роки тому
@@aleks-lj9yq no check the video, he didn't solve it instantly
@kurtzipagan6704 3 роки тому
@@vikraal6974 yeah,10min in the room,then left and go for a walk for 15min,so it's total 25min think
@satrickptar6265 3 роки тому
"How many knights do you want? Black: Yes
@99sasanka 3 роки тому
😂😂😂
@CristianML40 2 роки тому
😂
@boomjonggol5757 4 роки тому
Tal, dammit, solving this without a board.
@Scientist93 4 роки тому
It is uncanny... such amounts of brain power all but baffle me. It'd take me a really long time to get my visualisation to a similar level, making me question if it'd be worth it to begin with.
@alexandresilva3427 4 роки тому
@@Scientist93 Depends if you want to play chess professionally or not.
@plumpistrumpi 4 роки тому
@@alexandresilva3427 It is not a matter of will, it is a matter of natural disposition. You can train visualization a little bit, but there is no training that can compensate a lack of natural disposition when it comes to complex blindfold calculation. You were born with it.
@Unrevealingexistence 4 роки тому
@@plumpistrumpi this is the dumbest thing ever. 'Natural Disposition"
@snmss5919 4 роки тому
@@human7491 ukposts.info/have/v-deo/e4dhq3yKZ4udxI0.html
@Bcutter 4 роки тому
I haven’t played chess other than a few games with my dad when I was a kid. Yet I must have watched at least a hundred of your videos. You are an excellent commentator and you really manage to make the game interesting even to someone who don’t know the game other than the rules. I just took the step to start playing chess. It’s 5% thanks to Magnus Carlsen and how fascinated I am of his skill, but it’s 95% thanks to you and your awesome videos. Keep it up!
@agadmator 4 роки тому
Thanks man. Appreciate it
@busterlee8438 4 роки тому
I can second that story. My dad taught me to play as a kid but I never heard of a chess club or knew "openings" and endgames. Years later I wanted to teach my son to play and looked to youtube for a refresher lesson. I found the St. Louis chess Club channel and this was in the recommendations. Ive been binge watching for over a year now. The AI chess is really great. Whats happening with Leela chess 0 and the google brain? I also really enjoy the history series. Gotta watch them all again. Thank You.
@nicholaschileshe4987 4 роки тому
@@busterlee8438 Leela is currently playing TCEC season 17 and she is currently doing fine. Won a number of games with 0 loses and that's excellent performance.
@theazrael4423 4 роки тому
Welcome brother, that's the beauty of the game, all you need to know to enjoy these videos are the rules and yes he is one of the best commentators, I am sure there are many great commentators out there but I watch mostly 3, Agadmator, Mato Jelic, and Kevin from the chess website. I was taught when I was 12 yrs old by a Jamaican candidate master David Nichols in 1980. He gave me J.R. Capablanca's book, The fundamentals of chess. I'm not much good at the game but like you, I love the videos.
@syddenna6437 4 роки тому
Couldn't have said it better myself!😅
@Goshaughnessy Рік тому
That puzzle was a work of art. Solved by another artist. I love that Tal solved it after going for a walk No engines, just inspiration
@scarbo2229 Рік тому
Yeah, good to see a win for The Human. We need one.
@sesh8606 2 роки тому
He solved this incredibly complex puzzle when not even looking at the board? i swear these top GMs are superhuman
@ppmpyae1152 2 роки тому
He had alphazero in the sky.
@VylinJanKranBlanMichal 2 роки тому
Tal was looking at the ceiling
@patstaysuckafreeboss8006 2 роки тому
I just ran it through stockfish 14 and it looks like black can actually refute this with Ba5
@SarveshParakh Рік тому
@@patstaysuckafreeboss8006 at what point? There is no time to play that move.
@jackkenefick2696 Рік тому
cloud formations
@ijirving 4 роки тому
Chess engines and grandmasters can't solve it eh, let me just pause the video so i can....why do I even try...
@jakadajakada6939 4 роки тому
Ikr. Ain't no way I'm gonna try
@AA-tt7fl 4 роки тому
I did the same 😂😂😂😂😂
@snmss5919 4 роки тому
@@AA-tt7fl ukposts.info/have/v-deo/e4dhq3yKZ4udxI0.html
@kat78681 4 роки тому
Exactly! Pressed 'pause', thought 'Am I arrogant enough?', pressed 'play' immediately.
@seligfykspert9387 4 роки тому
There is a crucial difference between "analyzing a random position for evaluation purposes" and "solving a white-winning puzzle". That applies to humans and machines. I think that would one insert this position into a machine as a puzzle, it would probably get the solution quickly.
@OMC_Escher 4 роки тому
8:37 ah yes the classical four knights open- I mean end game
@phil10p_ 4 роки тому
😂
@showanimamian5248 3 роки тому
I read this puzzle in 1991 in a chess magazine, I also read that Tal shouted "this is unbelievable!" when he saw the solution.
@sattkrit_pathak 7 місяців тому
he did't saw the solution he solved it
@chinmaykabi 3 роки тому
Who other than Tal to solve such a puzzle. Poetic justice
@oskain 11 місяців тому
bro think he kendrick lamar 💀
@user-zk8gl4iw2v 6 місяців тому
@chinmaykabi Gijs Van Breukelen entered the chat.
@usamazaheer9194 3 роки тому
*Reads the title "Grandmasters and Engines couldn't solve this puzzle"* *Me an intellectual and a weeb who only played 5 games of chess* : _"Alright I will give it a try"_
@OKANGUVEN99 3 роки тому
Usama Zaheer well... did you succed?
@TheRaumin 3 роки тому
@@OKANGUVEN99 It has only been a month, so he still has time ;)
@essem4979 3 роки тому
I've watched Code Geass, so I should be able to solve this puzzle in 9 minutes
@glitch4010 3 роки тому
@@essem4979 solved it in 10 seconds, ez, saw immediately that the king was the key to the puzzle. 👑
@Delacroix0402 3 роки тому
@@glitch4010 this fits so perfectly to the comment above hahaha. Ur pfp is fucking Lelouch
@sanidhyapratapsingh4952 4 роки тому
I feel dumb after I think that Tal saw all this in his mind.
@renceilaya3562 3 роки тому
Agadmator: "it's white to play and to win" Me: "Wait.. is the white going upwards or downwards???" 😅
@iljadendiesich816 3 роки тому
Tip: watch were a1 is. A1 buttom left= white moving up, a1 upper right=white moving down
@renceilaya3562 3 роки тому
@@iljadendiesich816 thanks! I'm just starting in chess, I'll keep that in mind 😊
@yewtubez 3 роки тому
lol took me a minute to realise the A1 squares
@angelgodplace 3 роки тому
You always see the board going up.
@leadnitrate2194 3 роки тому
@@ronanthony5654 thankfully, we're not training to become world champions so we can enjoy this beautiful puzzle
@naina62 2 роки тому
*grandmasters and engines couldn't solve this puzzle *tal : hold my bishop
@slavdef 4 роки тому
The tragedy of a puzzle like this is that anyone good enough to solve it would never find themselves in such a position.
@whitneyrideout4553 3 роки тому
Yes its cruel cruel world 😢
@user-zb8tq5pr4x 3 роки тому
That's not the point of puzzles anyway
@thelostusername5013 3 роки тому
Excuse my ignorance I'm not very good at chess but at 7:46. Could you not move the pawn to g4 and end the game sooner
@Soul-ex8gb 3 роки тому
@@thelostusername5013 You'd make the king move to H4 as the pawn is no longer covering it
@thelostusername5013 3 роки тому
@@Soul-ex8gb good point
@michaelkaczmarski2938 4 роки тому
I've been solving chess puzzles since 1969. This is the most amazing, intricate puzzle that I've ever seen. Thank you for showing this rare gem, Agad!
@pickledirick8338 3 роки тому
Surely over the span of 50 years you’ve come across this puzzle before? I have multiple times just by searching for difficult chess puzzles online.
@silentoccasion4359 3 роки тому
Pickled IRick he probably did. I think he had everyone else in mind when he said what he said
@priyanshgautam9971 3 роки тому
I've been seeing Chess puzzles for about 6 months and already seen this puzzle several times
@priyanshgautam9971 3 роки тому
@Luis Delgado Lol 🤦u are soo
@annaapple3249 3 роки тому
@@priyanshgautam9971 You’re a dark brown Indian. Why are you using a blonde emoji?
@phoenixshade3 3 роки тому
This is a great puzzle. It looks like the engines fall victim to overzealous tree pruning.
@numbdigger9552 3 роки тому
wonder what alphazero would think of this...
@severnkariuki9129 2 роки тому
Engines probably overrate material for better chances in most games.
@phoenixshade3 2 роки тому
@@severnkariuki9129 That they do, especially when there are no immediate tactics... but in this case, nearly every underpromotion involves or creates a tactical situation. That's why I'd tend to favor a tree-pruning explanation over a material one, in this case.
@severnkariuki9129 2 роки тому
@@phoenixshade3 yes, they prune the tree but due to material. I think they ignore any continuation after knight and queen sac with checks(forcing move) and assume that variation leads nowhere. Little do they know the king, bishop and pawn is all that is necessary here. I believe they do not see how black is helpless with dim knights on almost the worst squares possible like Tal probably did. Alphazero might have seen this.
@krishnak.r3927 3 роки тому
I used the Stockfish engine on lichess and while watching the video and it was at 6:58 that when I played Bc2+ the level went up to +4.8 for white. This was the winning move that the engine could not spot that Tal could. Before I played this move, the level was at -5.2. Very interesting observation. Also, at 7:12, instead of playing Nf7+, the engine recommends to play Kg4 instead as it avoids the unstoppable mate in 11. I let the engine play itself and the game subsequently ends with white winning after exactly 30 moves after Kg4.
@pulguinha682 2 роки тому
Only engine I could solve this with was Stockfish 14, but that's just overkill
@arnavagrawal895 2 роки тому
Dude the engines have analysed this puzzle as it has been years .
@mrsommer84 Рік тому
Best comment
@kupono94 4 роки тому
Tal takes a walk, figures that the bishop needs also needs to take a walk xp
@Baitoss 4 роки тому
2:01 How is nobody talking about the guy just standing on the table?
@stickmedia5691 3 роки тому
Bruhhhh. I didn't even notice
@75w26__ 3 роки тому
That's actually a ghost
@Cnut_the_grape 3 роки тому
He just vibin'
@Lgg130 3 роки тому
Clearly the puzzle creator
@spiraldj 3 роки тому
Probably a camera man getting an ariel view of the game
@jasonisrael8849 3 роки тому
I love that Agadmator couldn’t keep a straight face when announcing the fourth knight. Great puzzle & video
@qolumbia3536 3 роки тому
Grandmasters and Engines couldn't solve this puzzle Me: *Immediately starts to try and solve it*
@woodfinchcrafts7267 3 роки тому
You:looks at solution after several years
@CristianML40 2 роки тому
😂
@JohnnyWillerGasperiGoncalves 3 роки тому
It's crazy, I'm using Lichess Stockfish 11+ WASMX, depth 58 and still, the engine can't spot the move!
@duffin3503 3 роки тому
How does this work? Doesn’t depth 58 mean that it has mapped out every possible move for the next 58 possible turns? How can it not spot the move?
@JohnnyWillerGasperiGoncalves 3 роки тому
@@duffin3503 no, no. Engines rely heavy in euristics to cut out most of the useless moves. But in some cases it endup cutting lines that shouldn't, because engine thinks it's a bad line and doesn't worth analysing it.
@OKMX5 3 роки тому
@@duffin3503 due to exponential complexity it's completely impossible to calculate every possible move into such depth. If engines were calculating every possible line they could think only few moves ahead.
@DanielHatchman 3 роки тому
That's crazy that a computee can't see it.
@turkiyett0928 3 роки тому
Engine can solve this puzzle in 2 seconds (multi threat)
@lordstinson8095 4 роки тому
I wanna know what Tal was smoking.
@EGarrett01 4 роки тому
Patzers.
@kievmoores3093 4 роки тому
Everett01 lmao
@HexxuSz 4 роки тому
You can not handle it
@oumarkk3572 4 роки тому
I was thinking the same thing😂
@niiadam4426 4 роки тому
😂😂
@MrSmith-on1qz 3 роки тому
I’ve played about 30k games. I could have never solved this puzzle. It’s just a game, but It reminds me of what my teacher’s use to tell me after I stated “when would I use trigonometry in day to day life” and their response “it helps expand your mind”.
@betaneptune 2 роки тому
Till now I thought the only reason not to pick a queen when "queening" was to avoid a stalemate. Not so! What an incredible puzzle. Just increasing awe the whole way through. Well done! Thank you, agadmator! Wow.
@jeesusmeesuss5247 4 роки тому
Found the first two moves, however I never would have been able to solve it.
@happyhourstogether6060 4 роки тому
Timmy Fay i found first 3 moves
@ActComplicated 4 роки тому
Timmy Fay Yeah I found the solution the the first couple of lines shown. It’s the last line that is the point of the puzzle I believe.
@happyhourstogether6060 4 роки тому
Act Complicated yeah dam that gansta bishop slicing everywhere
@dayanandsahu6683 4 роки тому
I completed this puzzle on my CT-ART 6 on first try... I am 1600.... Am I the Magician? Of course NOT
@dakotatiger2009 4 роки тому
@@dayanandsahu6683 Nah just a really bad liar.
@antyteista 4 роки тому
These are insane puzzle. One genius created them, another genius solved them. I'm not surprised it was Tal. Only he could see this tactical insanity in his head. Nobody else.
@gabe2349 3 роки тому
Interestingly, after the d8 promotion, the engine recommends king g4. It does now say that white is much better, but I think it prevents the checkmate combination.
@danielhoang289 Рік тому
Right, what makes this puzzle great is that forking the King+Queen isn't the best move. However, since it is the human instinct move to play, it's still remarkable to see how it is beaten
@mikelynch-zeroviewz2507 3 роки тому
Knights of the Square Table would be a good name for this puzzle..
@axemtitanium 3 роки тому
Sadly that would be a hint for solving it.
@aquapony 3 роки тому
@@axemtitanium Yeah, after I read this comment I solved it in 5 minutes
@itwasinthispositionerinoag7414 4 роки тому
0:00 Hello everyone 3:50 agadmator.exe has stopped working 9:46 Friends at the bar and the library
@adnan4688 4 роки тому
So this is becoming a thing...
@guscox9651 4 роки тому
instructions unclear, broke into the bar and library but no one there said "hello everyone" because they were in isolation.
@apaajaboleh104 4 роки тому
The bar and the library are closed.
@weimergabriel 4 роки тому
this is too good.
@kahwigulum 4 роки тому
@@apaajaboleh104 Sorry about that.
@oWallis 4 роки тому
Black: I have 4 knights! White: We have a Hulk (Bishop)
@Refinitey 4 роки тому
It's actually black that has 4 knights
@timsvideosallsfw2570 4 роки тому
Not a Hulk ... use The Blues Brothers line ... we're on a mission, a mission from God.
@zedknows8391 3 роки тому
This proves once again that Tal is the greatest player of all time.
@thearchangel9835 3 роки тому
One of the most incredibly beautiful things I have ever witnessed!!! Genial!
@pain6797 3 роки тому
GMs and Engines: *my pfp* Tal: so anyway, I started solving
@anandasatria7734 3 роки тому
Wtf lol
@doggojo7148 3 роки тому
MY PAIN IS STILL FAR GREATER THAN YOUUURRRRRSSSS
@1988ryan1 3 роки тому
Engines: move 4: black obviously goes king g4, not even suggesting knight f7 because it's literally the worst move on the board... Tal and GMs: so anyway, lets ignore that and pretend forking the queen/king is better so we get a checkmate in 13...
@mengekyosyaringanKamui 3 роки тому
🤣😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@Puschit1 3 роки тому
It's now decided: Tal is officially my favourite chess player now!
@Meddimehell 3 роки тому
Tal is EVERYONES favourite mate :) Together with Fischer, Carlsen and Anand, for my part though. Those four have just meant a lot for me in my time as a chess-enthusiast.
@Puschit1 3 роки тому
@@Meddimehell My follow-ups would be Morphy, Capablanca and Petrosian, though.
@nausadulabedinrifat7498 3 роки тому
Carlsen was my favourite.But after watching tal I realised the beauty of chess.No wonder why he was called the magician.
@JohnSmith-wl2pd 3 роки тому
@@nausadulabedinrifat7498 same here. Mine was Kasparov, but after watching Tal, I couldn't see chess in the same way anymore. As you correctly said I realized the beauty of it. It's not about how strong a player is. It's about the magic. And there is only one magician. The one from Riga...
@thunderball11111 3 роки тому
Ivanchuk, tal, Barnes and Anderson are mine so far. I just love the crazier plays and the positional attacks.
@wixom01 3 роки тому
I've been playing chess for more than 50 years. This is the most incredible puzzle I've ever seen!
@mdzaidshaikh1863 Рік тому
what's your age
@wixom01 Рік тому
@@mdzaidshaikh1863 63. /sigh
@Tuh_qh90 10 днів тому
@@wixom01 you lived when the legends(actual) were alive
@mikeemad3399 2 роки тому
I enjoy your videos, great for chess lovers. keep up the great work.
@marcjohn9404 4 роки тому
Chess world: This puzzle is impossible! Nobody can figure this out!! Black is winning! Stockfish: *Agrees* *Mikhail Tal has entered the chat*
@vignanmullapudi2950 3 роки тому
Engines and GMs left.
@-zelda- 2 роки тому
Chess world: This puzzle is impossible! Nobody can figure this out!! Black is winning! Stockfish 14: *Disagrees*
@joncleek5406 3 роки тому
5:16 "and for those of you who came back after you solved it, congrats" Did I mention lichess and chesscom can't solve it? Good luck!
@tylerghloe4803 3 роки тому
solved!!!! :)
@ajinkyakulkarni8109 2 роки тому
Solved
@patstaysuckafreeboss8006 2 роки тому
I’ll never understand how a human can come up with puzzles like this lol absolutely insane
@stantonmccain7725 3 роки тому
love coming back to this video everytime it comes on my feed because I always forget the solution and I get just as mesmerized by it again! Also bring back that hair Antonio! I miss the hawk haha
@Benny_Blue 4 роки тому
This is probably one of the best chess analyses/explanations I've ever watched. Well done!
@ChessMasteryOfficial 4 роки тому
If your opponent offers you a draw, try to work out why he thinks he’s worse off.
@anonym3967 4 роки тому
I used to offer draws when up a pawn in the opening against higher rated players on lichess, because I did not want to risk my free rating with possible blunders in the future.. and still this is my main reason to offer draws, if a position seems complicated I don't want to risk blundering it, offering a draw despite knowing that you are losing seems kinda rude tbh.
@nirrrvana88 4 роки тому
I was once offered a draw in a 3 days/move correspondence game. He was arguing that he has no time left to play the game as he has been sentenced to prison. I thought it funny,but in the end accepted the draw offer. I looked up better afterwards. Turns out he was losing a piece lmao.
@kallemaki-hokkonen4850 4 роки тому
@@nirrrvana88 Why didnt he just engine the moves and win ez
@patstaysuckafreeboss8006 4 роки тому
@@nirrrvana88 Prison? Yup, that guys probably better than you now. That's all they have in prison is chess lol
@TSgitaar 4 роки тому
So if you want your opponent to accept your draw offer, make sure that you are slightly better. I find it lame to offer a draw when I am considerably worse.
@lilacdoe7945 3 роки тому
An engine cannot solve it... AlphaGo "challenge accepted"
@robinsuj 3 роки тому
I don't think AlphaZero classifies as an engine
@jacknugent4324 3 роки тому
did u say alpha go
@BlueEyes-WhiteDrag0n 2 роки тому
AlphaGo?
@jayanth1590 3 роки тому
5:18 just saving to come back for solution
@rahulchoudhury4956 3 роки тому
Oh Tal !!! There is Kasparov,karpov,booby, anand,magnus,..... But Mikhail Tal his attacking style.. his sacking pieces, oh is brilliant mind . There will never be another Tal
@vinayyadav1757 Рік тому
Booby 😂 good one
@shweta8269 Рік тому
😂😂😂😂
@zebrapaint640 Рік тому
Yes bro tal is the only King
@scottrackley4457 Рік тому
If you like Tal, and who doesn't, check out Ljubojević's games. He comes up with some devilish attacks.
@johnnyspousta3136 4 роки тому
The first time I've seen this puzzle was during a lecture by Czech grandmaster Vlastimil Hort. He accompanied it with a great story. He was in Riga in Tal's house and both of the gentlemen were waking up. They shared some drinks and Tal's wife brought them some sandwiches. It was a happy occasion since Tal's daughter (I believe) was allowed to a musical conservatory. And since it was time to celebrate, what better way to start your day there is than to show this masterpiece of a puzzle. And thanks to you, Antonio, it finally makes sense why it was Tal who was showing it. Chess flexing at its best :D
@004chestnut8 Рік тому
Solving this for Tal must've felt like going back to your seat after answering a math question in the board in your class
@samgrattan5465 3 роки тому
I guess this would be “four knights ending” lol
@KnowThyself619 4 роки тому
Thank you so much Agadmator!! After studying all the games from the world chess championship 1972 on your channel, i have defeated both my dad and my older brother which was not possible before. Although defeating them doesn't get me any certificate or title, it's still a big achievement for me and I'm proud of it.
@mutigaben2038 4 роки тому
Good Job
@KnowThyself619 4 роки тому
@@mutigaben2038 thank you!! It took me long but i finally did it haha.
@peanutandbutterdachshund6916 4 роки тому
Well carlsen's initial goal was to defeat his sister, but ok
@OzymandiasSaysHi 4 роки тому
You SHOULD be proud! Well done!
@tomarts774 3 роки тому
That feeling when you spend 5 minutes of the video trying to solve the puzzle and then you realise that you were looking at the board as if it was flipped ... I thought it was strange for the puzzle to start as white king is checked by the pawn. I may not be the best chess player material afterall Lol
@gerardopadua 3 роки тому
Correct king checked by a pawn
@artfuldodger5698 3 роки тому
I thought so but then i looked at the alphabets on the bottom and those numbers on the left and figured out.
@DoctorX149 3 роки тому
white to play and win.. bruh lol
@tomarts774 3 роки тому
@@DoctorX149 well yes ... he says that after 5 minutes of explaining the history behind the puzzle. Also as others have mentioned the board has numbers on it, which clearly indicate that I'm not the brightest.
@adriensebbane 3 роки тому
I love this puzzle ! Thank you for sharing.
@sdweston8 2 роки тому
Thanks for sharing this puzzle - it is magnificent! I did play this puzzle as White against Stockfish level 30 though, and Stockfish did not capture the Queen and instead played King G4.
@bezzlebedeviled4756 4 роки тому
6:47 -- The reason engines (at least those that are set to not examine more than five lines simultaneously) cannot solve the puzzle is because they will not consider the Bc2+ line after Kg6, because it results in White being down two pieces (after Kxh5), and subject to forfeiting any new queen. However, if Bc2+ is manually played, then the engine finds the solution at Depth25. It used to be possible to adjust the settings on Chess(dot)com to have the engine examine ten lines simultaneously, but this was reduced to five maximum some half a year ago, with three being current default. (Low-grade cheaters using default-setting online engines will almost never be given the best moves in "hard" positions in any reasonable amount of time, say, as for Blitz.)
@bezzlebedeviled4756 4 роки тому
Furthermore, following d8=Q, after the engine finally discards Nf7+ (because it finds that this plus capturing the forked queen next turn results in White's king bottling up Black's with checkmate to follow), the engine will calculate endlessly without finding a forced mate for White even though it grants a rating of +8 fairly quickly. With Black refraining from the knight fork, he plays Kg4 instead, and will inevitably seize White's last pawn on g3, after which the material situation is White's queen versus Black's two knights and four pawns in an opposite-colored bishop game -- and Black is capable of lingering on for quite some time after that. With humans playing, it would be quite easy for White to blunder and lose tempo, enabling Black to queen a pawn and win.
@sin2Pi 4 роки тому
I found that although initial evaluation by Stockfish (both versions 8, 11 installed on my laptop with 10 threads) went for Black, both versions checkmated black when played against each other (v11 against itself, v8 W vs v11 B). I haven't investigated the details yet, but thought that Agadmator should have proceeded w/ solving the puzzle w/ Stockfish regardless of initial eval. Chess evaluation can be a bit chaotic for some positions, I think this is just one of these instances.
@bezzlebedeviled4756 4 роки тому
@@sin2Pi ...they'll only find checkmate if your engine has enough lines such that Bc2 can make the "cut" for consideration, or if you manually fork king and queen with the knight. The position is strongly winning for White with correct play after Black eschew knight-forking, but it is very difficult for White to run a queen against two knights and four extra pawns with bishops still the board; i.e., Black has a lot of "action economy". It's basically a Magnus-style grind to defeat Black, with the first misstep costing you your advantage, and a second enabling Black to queen and easily win with his material advantage -- as he'll quickly have a second queen.)
@iliillillilli2991 3 роки тому
I tried it in leela and stpckfish they failed but i thought because the engine prunes these moves what if i use an engine that prunes less, or annolder engine so i got rybka which is pretty old and it actually found the move being +3.66 for white at depth 25, but found the move instantly. Im guessing it has something to do with rybka not pruning the moves as early so it found it.
@duchi882 4 роки тому
It would be interesting to see if AlphaZero can solve this. That Bishop just went all over the Board trying to preach word of God and the Four Knights be like: BEGONE! 😅
@arturolopez9289 4 роки тому
Man of God vs Four Horseman might be called the solution 🤣
@soumyadeepdas3239 4 роки тому
Leela chess zero on my machine solved it after taking some time.
@ghotrix 4 роки тому
@@soumyadeepdas3239 it solved it for me almost instantly
@ghotrix 4 роки тому
@Abhishek Shukla It's big misconception that Leela learns from every game you play with her, it's physically not possible. It learns only from games she plays with herself on contributors machines. More on that here: github.com/LeelaChessZero/lc0/wiki/Getting-Started
@SuperAWaC 4 роки тому
lc0 also solved this instantly on my pc. i think having difficulty solving this is just a quirk of the way a/b engines search. but it is proof that a/b engines are not all powerful, they are faking it through brute force.
@hughparsonage4446 3 роки тому
I think there's a flaw in the forced checkmate: black is not obliged to make a royal fork on f7. So the position is better for white, but not forced mate.
@thatapollo7773 Рік тому
Well if no royal fork is made white is easily winning When doing puzzles you only need to show the most testing line which would be to do the royal fork and white needs to find M10
@grantross2609 Рік тому
one can only wonder and gasp at tal's brainflow during that outdoor stroll...... just incredible !
@Royale9 3 роки тому
2:14 I replayed that at least 10 times.
@scottpowell4342 3 роки тому
Did you notice that one of Kasparov's wins is missing?
@ujwalbharti3386 3 роки тому
Same here
@priyanshuranjan5225 3 роки тому
why you didn't just paused it ?
@ujwalbharti3386 3 роки тому
@@priyanshuranjan5225 he's trying to understand the game bro I know he could have paused but it's his choice 😂
@priyanshuranjan5225 3 роки тому
@@ujwalbharti3386 true lol
@mandyrarsh7137 4 роки тому
To those of you who came back in a month or two after solving this... I don't believe you❤
@guscox9651 4 роки тому
i literally cant decide whether or not to stay and watch the solution or not
@organizationxiii2956 4 роки тому
I found the first few moves on my own and later the engine found the mating sequence.
@snmss5919 4 роки тому
@@organizationxiii2956 ukposts.info/have/v-deo/e4dhq3yKZ4udxI0.html
@meepogeomancer7552 4 роки тому
I did solve this
@shezacuber6092 4 роки тому
@@meepogeomancer7552 mee too but it took like 15 mins to find a way to force black's king into the position then it was easier to mate him.Maybe i way just lucky and spot it quickly
@daniellevy2272 Рік тому
This is such a beautiful puzzle. Best chess moves I've seen
@HerveMutombo 2 роки тому
You're so authentic man. The fact that you do not post-edit makes your video look made for human beings.
@jiwsz 4 роки тому
Man, that was a satisfying puzzle!
@op63300 4 роки тому
this is the most outstanding puzzle i ever saw... Thanks Adgamator, for explaining !
@Mister_Eiffel 3 роки тому
I didn't really try to solve the puzzle, but I kinda knew it would require something unorthodox like promoting to a knight. However I did not expect it to happen *twice*
@laytonjr6601 3 роки тому
It doesn't involve promoting to a knight to attack, it's the only defense and the puzzle is easier if you don't do so
@mgpvii Рік тому
@@laytonjr6601 yeah, this guys remark, “ I kinda knew”, is him thinking that he is kinda smart, when in reality, he is clueless.
@fyodorurnov6028 3 роки тому
This was such visceral fun. Thank you very much for posting this.
@moonboy5851 3 роки тому
Tal just went up another level in my books. What a genius.
@ModySameeir 3 роки тому
Incredible puzzle indeed, the solution is very complex yet very interesting, thank you so much for sharing..
@ShahzamanShawon 3 роки тому
The explanation is very very helpful & easy to understand. Thank you
@tiktoktim 3 роки тому
Sick tactics. You gotta have a hell of a mind to solve this
@r3e511 4 роки тому
I feel guilty for not even trying to solve the puzzle
@johnwamsley1896 4 роки тому
4 chimps could learn to sing the Star Spangled Banner in 4 part harmony before I could find the solution
@memegazer 4 роки тому
I did not try properly but I don't feel guilty because the show was so enjoyable.
@MrVvulf 4 роки тому
"I am philosophical about my dumbness" - to paraphrase Patrice O'Neal. I just accept that I enjoy marveling at chess masters and that I'll never come close to being one. I'm fine with this. For me it's no different than watching NBA highlights - purely to enjoy what some humans can do. Sure, I can hit a layup or even a 3 pointer, but no matter how hard I practice, I'll never dunk from the free throw line.
@shayanpoordian5986 4 роки тому
I felt guilty for trying it as if i can solve it in 2 mins
@mgm.al3mry 3 роки тому
@@MrVvulf Mr. P 😭❤️
@paulcoe7511 4 роки тому
It's at times like these I wonder ... "What would alpha zero do?"
@tonym2513 4 роки тому
Paul Coe Leela would check mate in 3, hack a Jimmy Johns web page, and then stare at you smugly from behind the now delivered sandwich that she can’t even eat.
@sarainiaangelsong440 3 роки тому
Thing with " Alpha Zero " is it's neither a Human, nor an Engine, it instead is a Neural Net, meaning there is chances in it's hidden layers that it recognizes complex patterns! It already crushes all Humans and Engines, so I would say without a doubt it likely would solve it! Simply due to most of it's moves to begin with no engine or human has been able to compete with it's final form and win! The better question would be if one day " Leela Chess Zero " a new neural network they are working on would be able to solve this, cuz Alpha Zero likely just would due to mass pattern recognitions and a Mate in 14 for a Neural net that has that to back it up is strongly likely to spot and realize the winning sequence of moves, hidden layers are simply biases/weights it shifts around, I'm certain it has experimented in all it's self plays turning a pawn into other pieces that are not just Queens and also prolly has tinkered with the idea to force an opponent to grab a Knight over a Queen, so I'm sure those games do exist, and besides the way it thinks would be closer to how humans would solve rather than brute force that engines do all the time, thus why engines are only able to get to a certain level of strength before they plateau, whereas a neural network with the correct amount of nodes to keep learning will develop super god human and super god engine tactics! :)
@iliillillilli2991 3 роки тому
Funny thing is the old engine rybka immdeitally found it somehow, i guess it has something to do with less move pruning because stockfish ignores moves it thinks are bad to search faster. I even tried leela and they all failed but somehow the old engine rybka solved it
@sarainiaangelsong440 3 роки тому
@@iliillillilli2991 Yeah interesting... maybe then what engines should do is split itself to run 2 runs of itself, hear me out on this so at exact same time can prune as one process and another makes on the spot clone of itself but doesn't prune so that way 2 processes at same time and then that might be just the trick huh? So in the case of old rybka and new not sure if new prunes but if it does, then same thing but no prune and run them side by side as 2 separate thingies so in Arena for example it would look like 2 engines analyzing at same time type of effect, I'm bad at explaining my thoughts at times but that my guess :)
@EBiz-tv9jq 11 місяців тому
I am not a big chess player, I have spurts of playing a bit for like a month every 2 years, but once I watched some 20+ videos about Tal, I somewhat absorbed some ideas and the very next few games felt incredibly simple. I disconnected from the machine-like thinking of every possible move, but looked at the board "from the top" sort to say. I had amazing victory with sacrificing queen mid-game, and suddenly instead of trying to kill material felt that allowing the opponent to rush into my lines and then pinning his underdeveloped positions were much better solution. In short - watching a lot of well presented material about something you know can bring you to next level or improve you, even if you don't immediately practice it. (p.s. I have had same "breakthrough" in martial arts. I love mma, and have been training it for all life, but it took accidental interest in old-school mma and I found I absorbed a lot of much more convenient and effective approach. It is like watching McGregor all life, adapting to his style, training accordingly, but then you bump into 2 hour documentary about Fedor Emaialenko, and it makes you reevaluate your whole mma sports approach. )
@amoldivo Рік тому
Agad's hair after solving the puzzle: I'm mesmerized by the puzzle myself 😐🙉🙈🤣
@OCCNP 4 роки тому
I showed this puzzle to my friends in the library, the library management called the police for being a magician. Now I’m trying to get rid of the handcufs with this magic
@aspuzling 3 роки тому
Should have promoted to knight and you could jump the jail walls.
@David-lb6uf 4 роки тому
This is the puzzle that made me Fall in love with chess, back then about a year ago, when I saw this on Suren's channel😁
@srinivassurya84 7 місяців тому
That is an insane puzzle. Thanks for finding this for us!
@BirdDawg1 Рік тому
So impressed by this channel! The dialog is perfect.
@thealgeriantank2587 4 роки тому
Well. This puzzle should've been called "The Stable Puzzle" if you know what I mean!
@threethrushes 4 роки тому
NaaaAAaaay.
@divy1962 4 роки тому
"The crusade"
@KennedyMister95 3 роки тому
8:38 even Antonio cracked up at this 😂😂 this is beautiful
@keidanmeradi8085 Рік тому
Amazing! I enjoy your videos, keep it up
@-zelda- 2 роки тому
7:14 Black shouldn't go for the queen if it wants to keep playing as much as possible. The best move here for black is Kg4. There are fixed versions of the puzzle that force black to move to f7 like placing the knight in h8 or e5. In the original puzzle its mate in 34 moves, in the fixed versions is 15 moves.
@copacetic6440 4 роки тому
Well as a student of Mikhail Tal I can tell you he didn't just go for a walk he had a smoke too and then he came back with the answer. I can imagine the smile on his face when he saw both knights on opposite sides of the board in his head. A real tactical magician rest in peace Tal.
@lmair2456 4 роки тому
After seeing this I looked up some of van Breukelen's puzzles - terrific.
@bcask61 Рік тому
My friends at the library are going to love this. Thanks Antonio!
@lucien4980 2 роки тому
Nice this was pretty in depth. Truly a master to crack this in his mind on a walk.
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