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1rkb4/pNp5/8/2N4p/8/5B2/4K3/8 w - - 0 1
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G.M. Kasparyan
4 H.M., Szachy, 1977
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@ChessVibesOfficial
@ChessVibesOfficial Рік тому
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@givingothersamentalbreakdown
@givingothersamentalbreakdown Рік тому
what, video is minutes ago and this comment is 13 days?
@mythbusters866
@mythbusters866 Рік тому
Piilotettu video johon on kommentti kirjoitettu ja joka on julkaistu vasta nyt. Siksi kommentti time on 2 week.
@user-ow5rj9mg2p
@user-ow5rj9mg2p Рік тому
Bishop could have just keep the pawn alive and move back and forth that’s why stock fish was right with 0.0
@mrchess8522
@mrchess8522 Рік тому
This app is sooo laggy tho. Took me 2 min to get 1 puzzle
@harryle2808
@harryle2808 Рік тому
@@givingothersamentalbreakdown 😊😊😊
@tylerrapp7876
@tylerrapp7876 Рік тому
I finally have something in common with Stockfish. Now.. I’m not saying I’m stockfish, but no one has ever seen me and stockfish in the same room
@XEJTEP
@XEJTEP Рік тому
And i also have something common with " Stockfish " , i can not solve this puzzle . 😅
@DDP-Gaming
@DDP-Gaming Рік тому
I always find these puzzles so satisfying, knowing that even the strongest chess engine stockfish cant solve it at first glance. But what would happen if you would run stockfish natively on this puzzle
@maimonguy123
@maimonguy123 Рік тому
Stockfish wasn't running at a high level, at the level stockfish was running a very strong player ie Magnus could beat it.
@wasifchowdhury2004
@wasifchowdhury2004 Рік тому
@@maimonguy123 Pretty sure a cloud Stockfish 14 with depth 36 and NNUE enabled is a high enough level
@DDP-Gaming
@DDP-Gaming Рік тому
@@maimonguy123 Stockfish, even at regular depth 20 could beat pretty much everyone on planet earth in any time format
@osniko
@osniko Рік тому
@@wasifchowdhury2004cloud engines would calculate way further than that, they can calculate up to depth 70 depending on the position. But yeah, any depth past 20 is overkill if you’re playing against it. The Computer Chess Championship is a good platform to demonstrate that (and is pretty entertaining at times).
@JimmyBoosterCrate
@JimmyBoosterCrate Рік тому
@@maimonguy123 No, a depth 36 browser Stockfish is plenty enough to wipe the floor with Magnus and every human.
@qwerty_qwerty
@qwerty_qwerty Рік тому
As a 700-800 rated player, I tend to get some moves on these puzzles correct without knowing why they're correct
@allanshpeley4284
@allanshpeley4284 Рік тому
A stopped clock tells the right time twice a day.
@cleandiverge
@cleandiverge Рік тому
An airplane flies higher than a light bulb.
@youwantmyname9208
@youwantmyname9208 Рік тому
Sometimes we forgot we are breathing
@perversities
@perversities Рік тому
Every 60 seconds in Africa a minute passes.
@ashaazimroz9775
@ashaazimroz9775 Рік тому
As a 300-400 rated player, I tend to get some of these moves wrong without knowing why they're wrong.
@david1rosenthal
@david1rosenthal Рік тому
The reason Stockfish only sees the mate for white after black plays bf6 (7:37) is that stockfish think that this "main line" is a less resilient defense for black than sac'ing the bishop on g3 (still losing, but not as fast). (It sees the mate in 15 for bf6).
@boas_
@boas_ Рік тому
Yeah also you can press the plus button on Lichess to enable local analysys, if you do that it does give an evaluation of +40.4 on the starting position after a while
@diophantine1598
@diophantine1598 Рік тому
After the first two moves are given, Stockfish 15.1 with Syzygy gets it almost instantly. For some reason though, Stockfish can’t see it before this.
@mauer1
@mauer1 Рік тому
It's just slightly outside of its depth range If you give it a few more hours to calculate more depth, than it will get this forced mating line. Its basically so bad at evaluating this because it's just one very long forced mate and everything else is either a draw or a lose
@Person-ef4xj
@Person-ef4xj Рік тому
This is like the reverse of some of the puzzles, in which stockfish shows a drawn position as an advantage for one player.
@mauer1
@mauer1 Рік тому
Actually it's not. The 0 doesn't mean it's 100% a draw, the 0 means it isn't sure about the outcome yet. Thats why it's so annoying to evaluate openings with stockfish. So in this example unlike the ones where it gives advantage to one player it is actually slightly more accurate.
@anarkonihilizmkaoscunihili9944
@anarkonihilizmkaoscunihili9944 Рік тому
@@mauer1 Proof? Also still it's good puzzle due to engine didn'r see win.
@mauer1
@mauer1 Рік тому
@@anarkonihilizmkaoscunihili9944 Thats how the engine evaluates. Its why it doesnt evaluates attacks as good. Because the engine isn't as scared and gets counterplay in at the right times, making the position even
@anarkonihilizmkaoscunihili9944
@anarkonihilizmkaoscunihili9944 Рік тому
@@mauer1 Do you actually watch chess engine programmers videos or just read codes of engine?
@_Tao__
@_Tao__ Рік тому
@@anarkonihilizmkaoscunihili9944 that's how engines work, unless it's too obvious or a forced line they don't have the enough depth to get it
@electricmaster23
@electricmaster23 Рік тому
Genrikh Kasparyan was a genius.
@danielyuan9862
@danielyuan9862 Рік тому
This took me about a half hour to solve, but I'm proud to have solved it! The first move is Bc6. This blocks the pawn on c7 and threatens Bd7#. The only way to prevent the mate is moving the room to either a8 or b7. If the rook moves to a8, then play Na5. This threatens Bd7+, and Nc6#. And it's mate no matter what black does. If the rook instead takes the knight on b7, then play Bd7+, and after Kb8, play Na6+ and after Ka8, play Bc6. This completely locks black position, only being able to move their Bishop and h-pawn. Then the white king comes over. Note that the h-pawn can't go to h3 without being inevitably captured by the King, so it remains stuck on h4, until the white king moves to the 5th rank. But before that happens, we need to make sure that black's bishop is not guarding b8. If Black tries to defend b8 from the b8-h2 diagonal. So that the bishop is on g3 and the pawn is on h4. Then go Kg4. I'm pretty sure black doesn't have enough time to set up the Bishop g3 and Pawn h4 position without white's king being on h3. And whatever move black makes either loses the h-pawn or makes the black bishop not guard b8. I should note that if black loses his h-pawn, then white can simply move his king to c8 and proceed to play Bxb7#, and the dark squared Bishop is completely useless. Now if the King starts going to the 5th rank, then the h-pawn starts moving forward. By the time the pawn reaches promotion, the white king will be on d7. Capture the promoted piece with the bishop. And black plays c6+ discovered check (c5+ leads to the same line) then play Kc8. If black does not give a check, then Bxc6 would threaten an unstoppable mate. If Black plays Rc7+, take the rook with the knight, and if Black is somehow guarding c7 with the Bishop, then King takes Bishop is mate. If black instead plays Rb8+, then again take the rook with the knight. And black must move the a-pawn to avoid Bxc6#. There's also the idea of Nxc6, imprisoning the king, and moving the Bishop over to b7 in 4 moves. Black will have enough time to make a queen, but not enough time to guard b7 and stop the mating idea. That's all the cases. This was an insane puzzle, and I took about half and hour typing this comment, because I realized there were a few cases I missed, and I had to think a bit more.
@danielyuan9862
@danielyuan9862 Рік тому
I actually missed the stalemate idea and the fact that the Bishop could not guard c7 either. I originally had the Bishop not guard c7 with the same Zugzwang idea, but I though it was unnecessary because I missed Rb6.
@danielyuan9862
@danielyuan9862 Рік тому
I also feel like this video missed one idea where black tried to guard the c7 square in from the b8-h2 diagonal. But I'm not 100% sure that's an idea by black.
@ElKartoffelbreii
@ElKartoffelbreii Рік тому
Really fascinating puzzle, thank you for showcasing it! I was really doubtful that Stockfish actually can't solve it because I expected it to be able to calculate far enough to see the ideas. I'm using SF 15 and at first it seemed like it couldn't figure it out, but on my hardware (which isn't anything crazy fast) it needed 6 minutes and 36 seconds at depth 48 to realize that Bc6 is actually winning (+4.91). So Stockfish can solve it, but it needs relatively long.
@sebastiandierks7919
@sebastiandierks7919 Рік тому
Do you know what "depth" actually means? I always assumed it meant that Stockfish has fully searched the game tree that many moves ahead. Not sure though if it's actually the full tree or still a pruned tree. Anyhow, this puzzle wasn't actually 48 moves deep, or was it? So why would Stockfish suddenly at depth 48 see a win if it already existed earlier?
@ElKartoffelbreii
@ElKartoffelbreii Рік тому
@@sebastiandierks7919 It's not moves, but half-moves, one move is white moves and then black moves while only one player moving is one ply=+1 depth. Stockfish has a very well optimized and sophisticated algorithm which determines which variations it calculates more deeply, it never goes through the entire tree (the exponential growth makes it to many possibilites). 48 depth mean that all variation SF evaluates as "possibly relevant" are calculated that deeply. It may be that one key move later in the puzzle was just very "unintuitive" to SF so it gets calculated to a necessary depth later than variations which SF deemed more promising. I'm no expert so this is the understanding off a relatively educated layman, but for a very rough understanding this should help.
@sebastiandierks7919
@sebastiandierks7919 Рік тому
@@ElKartoffelbreii thanks, if it's 48 plys rather than full moves it's much more realistic and correlates better with the actual length of the puzzle.
@BabitaKumari-hk9ci
@BabitaKumari-hk9ci Рік тому
😅 I didn't understand anything
@sebastiandierks7919
@sebastiandierks7919 Рік тому
@@BabitaKumari-hk9ci I didn't understand the Russian either😅
@robohonkey990
@robohonkey990 Рік тому
I really enjoy the puzzle videos. Thank you for sharing your knowledge with us.
@tontonbeber4555
@tontonbeber4555 Рік тому
Stockfish is just able to calculate billion times faster than humans, but it doesn't understand the game.
@snomcultist189
@snomcultist189 Рік тому
But does it really not understand? Maybe stockfish does know but he tricking us to think it doesn’t?
@RapBopzShorts
@RapBopzShorts Рік тому
Guys, I'll explain to you the concept of "depth" which is the Engines' number of moves that they can foretell and evaluate. The puzzle is just too long that stockfish can't evaluate it because it's already past the depth.
@amplitudemc
@amplitudemc Рік тому
@@RapBopzShorts That doesn’t matter really, since stockfish can usually tell a winning position apart from a losing one even if there is no forced checkmate in its search. The issue is probably that when searching moves, stockfish often prunes branches in the search so that it can search less, and therefore be faster, and while doing so, it orders the moves so that it’s likely to prune more branches with a line that is bad for you. However, there’s a high chance that it just got confused and pruned a branch that actually was part of the solution, maybe because it didn’t think that some king move was worth considering.
@rene5939
@rene5939 Рік тому
This problem hasn’t anything to do with understanding, it is all calculating. But at first to deep for Stockfish.
@xavierb9061
@xavierb9061 Рік тому
Stockfish right its a draw..with perfect play...but he makes wrong move for black that gives white win
@sparrowwing1729
@sparrowwing1729 Рік тому
Wow thanks for Hercules Chess very helpful!
@madeleinebirchfield7658
@madeleinebirchfield7658 Рік тому
At 5:33 if you press the blue and black cross next to CLOUD on Lichess analysis and wait a few minutes, around depth 45-46 Stockfish starts to recognize the position as a win for white.
@Toopa88
@Toopa88 Рік тому
When the game review tells you you had a missed win. The missed win:
@Gingnose
@Gingnose Рік тому
I'm so proud that I've solved this. These types of puzzles show how endgames can be complex and I could miss some cool positional ideas even I'm analyzing with engines. Of course you can get a solution if you run it long enough but you can't spend much time on every position. Btw whoever composed this study is freaking genius
@Voltage-rs7op
@Voltage-rs7op Рік тому
That's so cool. I checked out Hercules chess a while ago and it was pretty fun so its cool that they are adding more stuff
@emanuele59b
@emanuele59b Рік тому
Wow another great one, thank you!
@zelandakhniteblade5436
@zelandakhniteblade5436 8 місяців тому
Given the importance you placed on the bishop staying in contact with c7, I think you also need to show the line where black chooses a set-up based on Bg3 and h4. It may only be a side-line in the computer analysis but it seems to me to be relevant to a position given as a chess problem.
@boas_
@boas_ Рік тому
I tried using Stockfish with as the highest settings possible, and it gives the starting point an evaluation of +27 (it suggests sacrificing the bishop to prolong the game)
@boas_
@boas_ Рік тому
If you press the plus button stockfish will analyse to a deeper level. I ran it for over an hour, to a depth of 69, and it gave the position a +53.5 point advantage for white, meaning: there must be a mate somewhere
@trevorrufli3971
@trevorrufli3971 Рік тому
Amazing, thanks so much
@kinnikillerkiwi
@kinnikillerkiwi Рік тому
Managed to get it right until the moment where the king starts to move, then got completely lost. Still proud for having figured out some of it.
@cullenlatham2366
@cullenlatham2366 Рік тому
so mainline (12:56) forces black bishop into a bad move, but what is stopping them from taking the move right back the next turn (or at any point after the fact, since the king moves slowly)? Back into the defensive position, black pawn can now push at will and the knight is no longer safe to check the king. Once the push has started, the king cant just turn around and stop the promotion, though c6 still guards it. Or is there some sort of ruling i dont know?
@Rocky64
@Rocky64 Рік тому
If Black moves the bishop back to d8, that slows the Q-promotion and the white king gets to c8 even faster: 12.Kf5 Bd8 13.Ke6 h3 14.Kd7 h2 15.Kc8 h1=Q 16.Bxh1. Now that the K is on c8 and not d7, 16...c6 is not a discovered check, so White can play 17.Bxc6 to pin the rook again, then 17...B-any 18.Bxb7#
@levistepanian5341
@levistepanian5341 Рік тому
That was fascinating
@procrastinator9595
@procrastinator9595 Рік тому
Even after explanation, I find it difficult as I have questions about why it can't move. Most complex one I have ever seen so far.
@theforgottenpokemon1132
@theforgottenpokemon1132 Рік тому
I find these puzzles absolutely amazing at first glance it’s easily a draw but the way you mate with white is beautiful
@alsaid9
@alsaid9 Рік тому
Bro its still draw but he blunder with black
@fxracer1860
@fxracer1860 Рік тому
@@alsaid9 watch the vid bro
@fantomghost6213
@fantomghost6213 Рік тому
Great video
@AgentSmith911
@AgentSmith911 Рік тому
This is probably something like mate in 40 with perfect play
@sebastiaanpeekstok4577
@sebastiaanpeekstok4577 Рік тому
Brilliant Puzzle!
@rCiuuuu69
@rCiuuuu69 Рік тому
Stockfish is bad now
@boazscheper9743
@boazscheper9743 Рік тому
Not stockfishs he is quite wrong theres other moves to start trying to trade pieces and they could always repeat moves after he locks his king
@boazscheper9743
@boazscheper9743 Рік тому
Btw by defending his pawn in his bishops and King cant go for bishop cause then pawn woud queen
@Masked-L
@Masked-L Рік тому
@@boazscheper9743 This guy thinks he really better than stockfish and still believe its a draw
@GameristicForce
@GameristicForce Рік тому
*Proceeds to beat mittens*
@amadeus3264
@amadeus3264 Рік тому
Nice!!
@realrazoblast4643
@realrazoblast4643 10 місяців тому
Nah bro asking me to solve a puzzle that a computer cannot solve 💀 💀
@BenEyre
@BenEyre Рік тому
I’ve been subbed since before 10k I think and it’s mad to see your channel grow
@heart-lin6774
@heart-lin6774 Рік тому
12:19 king takes pawn rook b6 check king d7 rook b7 check and defends king king c8 and its still checkmate after bishop takes rook
@lmaobox69
@lmaobox69 Рік тому
At 6:00, after Bd6 and Kg2, what is stopping black to play h4 then on the next move play Bg3? The pawn and bishop is protecting each other and the white king cannot take anything
@grzegorzkozowski5273
@grzegorzkozowski5273 Рік тому
6:16 bishop to E7 and pawn to H4. Bishop protect pawn and its a draw.
@joshuafury5353
@joshuafury5353 4 місяці тому
It would've been cool if there was a segment at the end where you beat stockfish in this position
@awequayzngs1780
@awequayzngs1780 7 місяців тому
Super sharpie !.
@francoislechampi2002
@francoislechampi2002 Рік тому
there are so many wonderful checkmate parterns in this puzzle
@bunkerputt
@bunkerputt Рік тому
Wow that's a mind blowing study packed full of so many ideas.
@kidong11
@kidong11 Рік тому
I like your recent chess puzzles. Where have you taken all of these? A particular website?
@LxpyZ
@LxpyZ Рік тому
11:53 a brilliant move
@MrEliasMarques
@MrEliasMarques Рік тому
Honestly, Hercules Chess is dope.
@hcgreier6037
@hcgreier6037 Рік тому
This piece of Genrich Kasparjan is very nice. I tried Stockfish 15 here to crunch the numbers down to depth 52, the machine was not able to find it and always shows -0.16. At depth 51 it even goes to -0.18 The main theme is that the w♚ has to cross the 7th rank somehow, so it's quite obvious that White has to block the a/c-pawns. And there is this nice dance of the w♚ with the b♝! The winning king move is quite hard to find...I cannot believe that this puzzle only got a 4th Honorable Mention!
@talkingmango8658
@talkingmango8658 Рік тому
Stockfish no longer uses pruned trees, the AI recognizes lines
@Lucashallal
@Lucashallal Рік тому
7:17 Can’t black draw this, because of the pawns which are not immediately able to be captured? Seems even more difficult for white to win than with just a knight and a bishop.
@XtReMz98
@XtReMz98 Рік тому
Great way to wake up to find out I’m just as good as Stockfish.... that is, until Stockfish gets his coffee and get that W!
@johndrysdale2298
@johndrysdale2298 Рік тому
The thumbnail is what I say when stock fish calls my brilliant sac a blunder
@janosdavidpapp3206
@janosdavidpapp3206 Рік тому
I would like to see the same puzzle with stockfish on aswell
@willsterjohnson
@willsterjohnson Рік тому
Here's the FEN/PGN for the starting position; 1rkb4/pNp5/8/2N4p/8/5B2/4K3/8 w - - 0 1 You can run through it yourself with whatever tools your preferred chess site offers. I really wish he would put the code in the video description or something, I like to get hands-on with these puzzles and play against 3200ELO stockfish
@rvs1021
@rvs1021 7 місяців тому
what if black simply doesnt push the pawn and re position the bishop to protect?
@arseniecatalin6493
@arseniecatalin6493 3 місяці тому
If black is playing h4 before the white king (min.4.53) - I think is draw !...check..black has enough time to make the queen before the king is reaching line 7. min.4:53 ...h4 Kf3 , Be7 Ke4 , h3 if Ke5 , h2 and is a draw if Kf3 , still h2 can be moved and after Kg2 black can play Bd6...
@vadimf8301
@vadimf8301 Рік тому
great!!!
@cerebralcomics
@cerebralcomics Рік тому
Cool stuff, Nelson! Awesome to have your own bot, man.
@user-oy7wk9tk7u
@user-oy7wk9tk7u Рік тому
I was thinking of moving the Knight on b7 to d6 and then that would be check mate
@Adamas12345
@Adamas12345 Рік тому
9:47 the easier way to win is to go knight to a5
@romdl9991
@romdl9991 Рік тому
Then bishop B7 and knight C6? I was wondering if that was correct
@bamweasel
@bamweasel 6 місяців тому
from the position at 12:44, after the black bishop moves out of the way, why doesn't black interrupt its pawn march for a move to play Bd8?
@dr.poonamyadav3699
@dr.poonamyadav3699 11 місяців тому
It is a draw because at 6:24 black will push a pawn then anywhere the king moves bishop will come to g3
@frankg.39
@frankg.39 Рік тому
Quite a remarkable puzzle, wow.
@ethan-wy6xy
@ethan-wy6xy Рік тому
I dont understand, when I try to sign up for hercules chess it says invalid email
@phoenixgames_6043
@phoenixgames_6043 Рік тому
Move 1: bishop to h5 2: if they don’t move the king or rook bishop to g4 CHECKMATE
@DanielSmith-pf2mq
@DanielSmith-pf2mq 6 місяців тому
Moral: knight is better than a queen 😂
@roblodocus2539
@roblodocus2539 Рік тому
Your first chess bot!?! That’s awesome, congrats!!
@DamirUlovec
@DamirUlovec 6 місяців тому
Can't wait for 9-men tablebases to see the perfect play for this position.
@ppmendonca1
@ppmendonca1 Рік тому
After kg2, h4 allows other lines of defense for black, including the sacrifices that lead to stale mate. But it doesn't free the king because the pan is closer to promotion.
@heart-lin6774
@heart-lin6774 Рік тому
12:19 another thing i don’t understand is why not taking even the pawn with the king ? cuz i mean bro if u take even if he tries to check u with his rook … it’s checkmate cuz u have to move ur king and then discover check with bishop and even if he defends with rook it checkmate that would be amazing checkmate but also yea keep playing like u want guys
@jlmlaks
@jlmlaks Рік тому
after Kxc6, instead of playing Rb6+ black has ...Rb1 attacking the bishop preventing white from moving the king for discovered check, after white moves the bishop black can keep moving the rook on the first rank to attack the bishop preventing white from ever delivering the discovered check, so i dont think this works.
@SkaterMisterAxe
@SkaterMisterAxe Рік тому
6:17 black should push pawn and play bishop g3…
@swuser293
@swuser293 Рік тому
push pawn then king h3, bishop g3 then king g4 - mate in 11
@Adventurer-te8fl
@Adventurer-te8fl Рік тому
Then they won’t be guarding c7, leading to that mating line where it involves Nxc7#
@trucid2
@trucid2 Рік тому
Takes a while but Stockfish can solve it. It sees a mate in 47 with the bishop + knight endgame as the best resistance for black. Might be a slightly quicker mate than 47 if I let SF think a bit more.
@renerpho
@renerpho Рік тому
That it's mate in 47 is significant, because that's within the 50-move limit.
@JustAnotherCommenter
@JustAnotherCommenter Рік тому
9:51 "We literally don't even care" + that smirk hints that this is an obvious Hikaru reference
@bopo5858
@bopo5858 Рік тому
When I first saw the puzzle board I saw that you could move Bishop G4 checkmate.
@elisabethmayer9366
@elisabethmayer9366 Рік тому
6:09 what if black plays Ph4? and if Kh3 black can Bg3 and keep the bishop on the e diagonale? Would that help to keep the game a draw?
@charliezong2938
@charliezong2938 Рік тому
I was thinking the same. Tho, after black Bg3 white simply move kg4 and forces black to move. The basic idea is that black bishop need to guard both c7 and the h file pawn to make a draw. After white kg4, black needs to move the bishop. Black would either lose guard on c7 or lose the pawn in h file.
@shubbyshabaas
@shubbyshabaas Рік тому
h4, not Ph4
@eniszuferi
@eniszuferi Рік тому
@@charliezong2938 Black doesn't care about the c7 pawn. It's actually bad for white if he takes the pawn too early because White needs his king to cross the seventh rank. If Black tries ...h5-h4 at the mentioned spot White will just play Kh3, Kg4 and walk his king up to d7. Black has to promote his pawn, White will capture the new queen and play proceeds just as in the main line.
@charliezong2938
@charliezong2938 Рік тому
@@eniszuferi Black care about bishop guarding c7 to prevent the Nc7 checkmate not the pawn.
@eniszuferi
@eniszuferi Рік тому
@@charliezong2938 which checkmate bro? Nxc7+ isn't checkmate unless the white king reaches c8
@futurethinking
@futurethinking 4 місяці тому
I think, Stockfish is actually right You just have to h4 earlier than you did at 6:11 and defend with bishop on g3 if necessary instead of trying to cut of the king. This means black can queen on h1 before white king get to c8 and gets the draw.
@Rkcuddles
@Rkcuddles Рік тому
Wow that last one !
@brawlherogaming11
@brawlherogaming11 Рік тому
13:13 What if the black doesn't play rook and play knight on d6. That is better move then playing rook on b6.(correct me if I am wrong)
@Malam_NightYoru
@Malam_NightYoru Рік тому
this puzzle only reminds me of hikaru "pick up the dept?" for the engine saying it was a draw position, and after a brilliant move he was suddently +7 up
@Kassperos
@Kassperos Рік тому
Just watched it. Unbelievable
@indranildas8929
@indranildas8929 Рік тому
Truly magical
@cristofervidre8378
@cristofervidre8378 Рік тому
It was weird as stockfish gives -0.2 and suddently sees the mate in 9 for white
@chasemc6151
@chasemc6151 7 днів тому
One thing... black didnt have to promote and if they moved the bishop to prevent the checkmate, its a draw so stockfish is actualy right!!!
@DrivingAndMusic
@DrivingAndMusic Рік тому
Hi, I appriciate the puzzle, but I have a question. Does not King to G8 make checkmate on 9:55 ? Thank you for the answers :)
@turicagamer9951
@turicagamer9951 Рік тому
You can't attack a king with another king
@DrivingAndMusic
@DrivingAndMusic Рік тому
@@turicagamer9951 thank you, I didn’t know :)
@mahogs9
@mahogs9 9 місяців тому
At 3:52 please someone explain why taking the rook with the knight doesn’t work? He didn’t give it as a possible move in the video, but it looks like the best move for white at this moment
@elrealista7524
@elrealista7524 6 місяців тому
I like so much this kind of puzzles, and I appeciatte the way you explain the hiddden ideas. But I think is is also a good idea to name the authors of this artistics compositions, just as a sign of respect.
@kellister9151
@kellister9151 Рік тому
Great puzzle
@syedrahman5837
@syedrahman5837 7 місяців тому
Mind blown. If the strongest bot can’t see it, how are humans coming up with these puzzles. Unreal
@-YELDAH
@-YELDAH Рік тому
personally i prefer seeing the mouse, hard to explain why
@alyvav.trauma2440
@alyvav.trauma2440 Рік тому
8:03 I think the only useful move for black here is putting the bishop on f4 and leave it there if the king isnt going to take it.
@quadmeister
@quadmeister Рік тому
Indeed!! He is dumb that black would go for the queen while you can clearly see if he has the queen he wil lose it immediatly..
@jakeaxel2627
@jakeaxel2627 Рік тому
At 2:40 what about the move knight to c7?
@Arctic_1605
@Arctic_1605 Рік тому
But at 6:06, couldnt black just push the pawn 1 square so its defended by the bishop, and at that pointit would be impossible for white to make any progress
@rngabbie1860
@rngabbie1860 Рік тому
Challenge: play stockfish in this position
@freddyhall7068
@freddyhall7068 Рік тому
Can’t they just perpetually move the bishop so it protects the pawn by moving the pawn up one? So if the king moves then black just gets a queen if the king goes too far away
@Anonymous-qb4vc
@Anonymous-qb4vc Рік тому
damn its crazy i still can't fanthom how it happened and how stockfish didnt see it
@panburber819
@panburber819 Рік тому
if you ever feel useless, remember the dark squared bishop in this game.
@Quoodle1
@Quoodle1 Рік тому
I wonder if black can force a draw by repetition. Need to look at this more. Might be why stockfish doesn't see the stated win.
@andyclark8991
@andyclark8991 Рік тому
That does surprise me at 5:39 stockfish still thinking it’s a draw. And mate love you showing that.
@david1rosenthal
@david1rosenthal Рік тому
His stockfish depth is capped fairly low (for low-piece positions like these). An unencumbered stockfish evaluates this position as an obvious win for white in less than 1/2 a second.
@rossthebesiegebuilder3563
@rossthebesiegebuilder3563 Рік тому
I'm all about smartypants Stockfish getting owned. Nevermind that I had no idea what to do, either. :/
@alexp4932
@alexp4932 Рік тому
6:17 why did you play be5 instead of just pushing the pawn?
@GuillaumeLeBlanc-gg8rj
@GuillaumeLeBlanc-gg8rj Місяць тому
Technology changes are very fast and now Leela + BT4 find it immediately with RTX 2060 or better and SF 17 dev 4 threads and 8GB hash find the solution in a few minutes. When I say find the solution I mean give the right move with > 2.5 eval. The right first move is found instantly with a bad eval first but it remains always in the main line for both engines.
@OndrejLufinka
@OndrejLufinka Рік тому
Why black does not move pawn at H5 at 6:16 instead and than bishop to E7? In my eyes that creates a draw. We cannot proceed with king to check mate because we let black's pawn to go for a queen. We cannot take the pawn because it is guarded by bishop and only thing black has to do is to move bishop back and forth between E7 and F6. We cannot move anything else because we unstuck other black pawns and king. So isn't that a draw? What am I missing?
@zhupapapp8114
@zhupapapp8114 Рік тому
Latest stockfish can solve this. It took 11 mins on my server and result is +M53.
@andrewc4606
@andrewc4606 Рік тому
There are some people on here that say local Stockfish (meaning Stockfish installed on your computer and not the internet version) solves this, but local Stockfish does NOT solve it on my computer using 20 cores even after more than 8 hours with a depth of 104 and over a trillion positions searched: Stockfish_22121919_x64_bmi2: NNUE evaluation using nn-ad9b42354671.nnue enabled 104/82 8:17:49 1,314,424,433k 44,006k 0.00 1.Bf3xh5 c7-c6 2.Nb7-d6+ Kc8-c7 3.Nd6-e8+ Kc7-b6 4.Nc5-d7+ Kb6-b7 5.Nd7xb8 Kb7xb8 6.Bh5-f3 Bd8-g5 7.Bf3-g4 a7-a5 8.Ne8-d6 a5-a4 9.Nd6-c4 c6-c5 10.Ke2-d3 a4-a3 11.Nc4xa3 Kb8-c7 12.Bg4-f3 Bg5-e7 13.Na3-c4 Kc7-d8 14.Bf3-d1 Be7-h4 15.Kd3-e4 Bh4-e1 16.Ke4-d5 Kd8-c7 17.Bd1-e2 Be1-f2 18.Be2-d3 Kc7-b7 19.Kd5-e4 Kb7-c6 20.Bd3-e2 Bf2-h4 21.Be2-h5 Kc6-c7 22.Bh5-g4 Bh4-d8 23.Bg4-d1 Kc7-b8 24.Ke4-d5 Kb8-c8 25.Bd1-g4+ Kc8-c7 26.Bg4-h5 Bd8-h4 27.Kd5-e5 it is still stuck on 1.Bxh5
@gamingtech276
@gamingtech276 Рік тому
6:14 Why not play pawn h4 for later playing bishop g3 and blocking you from threatening the pawn.. that way the pawn would be one square further down the line.
@jlmlaks
@jlmlaks Рік тому
this is effectively the same thing as what was played a few moves later. once black moves the pawn to h5, white gets the king to g5, then once blacks bishop moves away from g6 it is no longer guarding f7 and white can march the king to c8 etc as was shown. its the exact same position except blacks bishop is on e2 or f1 rather than d7 which doesnt change anything
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