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☝the fuck?

Agree it’s the most likely scenario

can be, make sense

there's also a heavy connection between the Empire of Dawn and Chinese mythology so the dynasty theory makes sense, especially when you consider the proximity of the Yi-Ti to the region

I like the dynasty angle as a potential way of explaining the length of how long the first "emperors" reigned. Instead of it being one person who ruled for centuries its actually the dynasty with connotations with the relevant stone with some exhageration on the length of the reign

Oso Isko you be careful to ride the pale mare

Ha because everyone has covid19 at this point.

@@sashagabel5001 Most people probably have!

@@made-line7627 yea just like 800k people died from it in the US alone lmao

@@docop8926 Haha did they? Or did their PCR tests pick up on non-infectious viral fragments from past infection, and they actually died of old age or their significant co-morbidities? Not saying that _no one_ died of COVID-19, though 800k is such an overestimation.

Yeah, there's magic, oily cursed black stone, sorcerers and dragons but the Long Night HAD to have been something scientifically plausible huh?😆.

@@marcoslaureano5562 I think the irony in that very scenario is what makes it all the more interesting.

@@marcoslaureano5562 magic has to come from somewhere why not space?

@@marcoslaureano5562 : LOLS TRUE!

“THE FUCK YOU MEAN A ROCK FELL OUT OF THE SKY”

I agree with all of that save the last hero going to Valyria, but it seems certain the Valyrians descend from the Great Empire of the Dawn so Dany and Jon are still the last scions of this bloodline. Plus I think the Starks descend form Nights King so in all ways this is Jon, Dany, and Brian’s problem to solve

@@DavidLightbringer yeah the valyrians definitely came from the great empire. This would also explain their unusually democratic power sharing system of governance-they saw the old empire fall into ruin with infighting as a result of concentrated political power. Thus, they decided to try somewhat of a democracy.

@@bensonfang1868 this pseudo-democratic system also carried over in the Triarchs of Volantis

@@DavidLightbringer Brian? Thank you, now I imagine Bran saving the world singing "Always look on the bright side of life"... 🤣

Except millions of humans would be descendants of Azor Ahai, considering the many dragonseeds in Plaentos

Exactly. This is the scenario I am picturing. I talked about the dispersal patterns from the great Empire in this video: ukposts.info/have/v-deo/hV1inWuHmqp_uHk.html

i think all the valyrians had original blood ties to the Amethyst Empress. it was said that all the rulers in the empire of the dawn had gemstone eyes,( tourmaline, pearl, topaz, amethyst etc.) i think everyone with eyes of purple fled the great empire after the bloodstone emperor overthrew his amethyst sister

Hint Great Empire Of the Dawn made colonies. I think that Valyria was one of the many include Westeros. The Daynes and Hightowers were station there to supervise the capturing of slaves as in Giants. When the GEOTD collapse they just stayed there they were never Valyrains.

@LagiNaLangAko23 that maybe a lie Dragons weren't never found in Valyria. They brought they here and it maybe there were Shepherds people there at first, but I think they enslaved them.

has it not also said that valyrians where just simple sheep herders before finding the dragon eggs?

They said they did not understood the magic or fantasy part, but since they ran out of materials ever since season 5 u got to ask if they understand politics, military strategy or even human behavior for that matter.

Ash ez best answer ever!

After season 5 I stopped thinking of the show as an adaptation and more of a professional wrestling parody of the books. CleganeBowl!

Ash ez or even the concept of dying and that it’s kind of permanent most of the time! #dothrakirevival

Pamela Bezerra Melisandre kind of forgot that she could only revive one person at a time!

Maybe the maestars realize that so destroyed the Targaryens

I feel like The Lost empire of the Dawn probably accidentally created some things like wyverns and fireworms, if not dragons due to some kind of cataclysmic event related to magic. Thereafter the valerians just didn't learn their lesson.

Also a lot of Targaryens still borne come out same as rhaego and there was that one girl who rode her dragon to valyria and came with fywrms in her skin and she burning from the inside

Or Maegor the cruel's issues

I lean more towards whatever resides in Asshai performing blood magic/genetic manipulation on the ancient valyrians to create dragon riders - but either way, there's certainly something "odd" about the valyrian bloodline. If GRRMs Lovecraft influence (which shows its head more and more I think) is anything to go by all the magic that is inherited by the characters in ASoIaF is the result of ancient abominations.

Excellent points! I hadn't thought of that before, but seems to make sense

@@rebornstillborn it would also add to the logic that the bloodlines of dragon riders don't mix well with common folk, hence the difficulty in births outside of incestuous relations, and the normalized incest culture as well They aren't fully human

Yes that’s why I tend to think Dawn is a remnant of the original Great Empire sword tech, with Valyrian steel being the corrupted version

⁠@@DavidLightbringer ⁠But Dawn isn’t made of Valyrian Steel. Even though it is often referred to as being one of the known Valyrian blades of Westeros. It’s metal comes from the rock of a fallen star. Hard to say Valyrian is the corrupted version since it doesn’t use stars wouldn’t you say my friend? Corrupt yes. But of its own I would say since it’s rumored to be blood magic and dragon fire that Valyrians used with the steel to forge their weapons.

Really hoping Dany visits via glass candle and we can learn more about the GEOTD!

That's so true! Good point

Remember that next time someone reports seeing a bigfoot or some other cryptid....

Very Colour out of Space. Probably my second fave HP Lovecraft tale after Shadow Over Innsmouth (which seems to be one of George's fave inspirations)

Isnt in Lovecraft the thing making people crazy the truth and the realization of beeing the only ones that see it usually? I always saw it more like that than actually making them crazy. We europeans tend to have a different view on Lovecraft most of the time and to be honest he is not very liked here anyway...

@@weedhigh2564 HAHAHHHAHAHAA can I ask why?

@@aurelian2668 I dont really know to be honest, people here just dont know about him.

Sounds like warpstone, yes-yes.

It certainly points the finger at whoever was there before the ironborn being from GEotD.

@@jojoladydayne7311 but what does that mean for the iron born as it stands now, because the seastone chair also feels very linked to the Drowned God

@@trickyagent127 it likely suggests that the drowned god is tied to the Bloodstone Emperor, as both are obvious HP Lovecraft references.

The stone is also mentioned in the Hightower construction. Couple that with the Thousand Islands and Ibbese and you get definite call outs to Lovecraft's Eldritcy influences. The Black Goat, Lion of Night, the Pale Child, the Squamous entities, etc. Martin does many homages and ties much of his inflience into the darker natures and weakest aspects of humanity. Like either a realist or a cynic, depending likely on the day, and your point of view.

​@@trickyagent127 The drowned god could be the bloodstone / meteorite? That quote about the water being red in somewhere, possibly because of a plant or... A bloodstone! If old mate whacko god emperor worshipped it, stands to reason he may have had followers. Some of those followers end up on the Iron Islands. Their descendants call themselves Iron Born and worship a 'drowned god'...

The fire of the gods is always hot to handle

Yup true

You'd probably need dragons just to get anywhere in any reasonable amount of time at all.

True!

What about the Dothraki? Maybe not an empire but its pretty massive and akin to the Mongolian empire

@@StudioBleenk Nomadic tribes (in reality) like the dothraki do not really control large territories like settled societies do. Nomads only displace or murder any farmer trying to encroach on their land. While settled societies exert constant controll over their territory to levy taxes and upheld law and order. To exert controll across a thousand kilometres of land a state needs gunpowder, railways, or Dragons.

I agree in principle, but real life empires were just as big if not bigger with similar levels of tech. All you need is good infrastructure and a functioning bureaucracy

yeah, I didn't even get into the mythology behind the maiden made of light and the line of night, but they're drawn from Eastern mythology absolutely. Amaterasu in particular: mythopedia.com/japanese-mythology/gods/amaterasu/

@@DavidLightbringer That link just makes me wonder about the first men (Storm God in ironborn religion from your oak and holly king videos) now with relation to the bloodstone emperor (and Susano'o). 😔 Questions that hurt my head now: - Are first men then descended from the bloodstone emperor and the valyrians the amethyst empress? - Or how does the bloodstone emperor with his inspiration with Susano'o fit into this? - Maybe it's just inspiration from different sources - Maybe it's related Thanks a bunch 😂😂😂🤣

It’s all connected!!

@@jeffgustafson4552 Who is the Harpy? Carole f*****g Baskin!

Now I NEED a Witcher/Rhaegar-type video only it's about Tiger King who is Azor Ahai.

💀

Killed the dragons. Whacked 'em! Can't convince me that this didn't happen!

You gotta go to asshai to learn magic and then go and make hella money

Most likely you will be dead by that very same crew you recruited if we believe of what euron claim to be true, that only he and his crew are the only one brave enough to travel to Ashai. It's seems like the safest way for you to travel to Ashai is to join the lord of light cult and raise within these temple ranks untill your presence in Ashai is both approved and required to further serving their god.

@@muhammadzulkarnaen4229 Didn’t Marwyn the Mage go to Asshai too?

Yep. He was also a scholar of an established organization, so he might have been better protected.

@R. W Indeed. Those guys made it all the way to Ireland in the West and India in the East. Possibly even Western China where they became known as the Tocharian people.

@@evalationx2649 thats fan fiction history

Or numenoren

Peal emporor = Garth Greenhand confirmed!

There’s also Prestons theory which I particularly like in which warging and dragon riding are X linked genes. Two X’s gets you a green seer. The thing is if you have a male passing his X chromosome he will Always pass that X chromosome. So any women born from that pairing will be a warg.

Think that one is by H.P. Lovecraft

@@DavidLightbringer Something in the likes of Donald Tyson's Necronomicon: The wanderings of alhazred. Regardless of what people think of his writting, I think he nailed how someone would learn magic in a low fantasy setting and how a trip through asshai would go.

I'd love the freaking main series books to be finished first. Dude's been slackin haha

@@jonny-b4954 You know it’ll never be finished right 😂

@@justinlogan869 I truly don't believe it will be. He's lost interest to a degree, I think. That's why all the other projects interest him and he jumps on them.

And there are many people like myself and I assume you as well, who are hungry for the mysteries to be explored by GRRM/HBO. Imagine seeing those gemstone emperors on screen!

Mystery is really important, if it was explained a lot of magic will be lost.

The only problem i could see with that story is the fact that a nearly identical one already exists. The seven deadly sins on Netflix.

Omg imagine if we’re actually gonna get a series about Great Empire of the Dawn. But i think HBO is building up, as GRRM said he wants the ASOIAF universe to be kinda like the MCU.

Not really. There is still evidence of other great/ancient civilizations that may have existed in those times as well. But it may be where the history of Dany's people started. Many an empire in our own world fell due to ongoing warfare and infighting. So, Dany's ancient ancestors were fighting some massive war with another great civilization. Which is why they built those gigantic forts. Depending on how those forts were placed., we can assume that the enemy came from that direction. And it seems that Dany's ancestors were fleeing from something. Why else would they relocate with no trace of them being found elsewhere. They were the only survivors.

God damnit, now I'll have to lie awake at night imagining what could have been.

I think he wants to do a Yeeti TV show so I'm sure it will be expanded canonically

so coming from that standpoint, you may enjoy my series called the king brand, and the one called the true character of Daenerys Targaryen. Those are the videos I made right after last season ended ... With the King brand series, I went back into the books and the lore to figure out what a greenseer king will actually look like in the books, which was a lot of fun, and indeed Daenerys series, it was mostly about doing a book by book free read And looking for hints about her character, foreshadowing of where her bark is going, and that sort of thing. I've always felt very connected to Daenerys, I think the show ending really got the character wrong. After doing the reread, I'm more sure of that than ever, and very sure her ending in the books will be a lot different. All look for your comments to see how you enjoy those videos! There's also one called Battle of Winterfell which deals with the connections between the Starks, the others, and the weirwood trees which were left unexplored on the show

@@DavidLightbringer Will do, thank you for the reply! And I will let you know about those others in the comments.

Could be posible in the bookst they are depicted as small humans with brownish sking spoted like a dear,having only 3 fingers and a thumb,with black sharp claws and cat eyes usally yellow or gold like the sun. And we do know that they could have posible relatives in Essos that are called Ifequevron so I guess he chose one of the as a wife.

And TWOIAF also mentions what are obviously cousins of the Children in the forests of Essos, if they aren't the same species. They also have Shade of the Evening trees there instead of the white weirwoods.

Yes! I've speculated about that extensively, as a matter of fact. There is an older series called weirwood goddess, and it also comes up in the Weirwood Compendium and the Green Zombies: old crones videos. I'd recommend the WE goddess series though if you're interested in this line of exploration. I think Nissa Nissa herself was a cotf or a hybrid.

The Tiger Woman is Cersei Lannister. Euron is the bloodstone emperor. He will cut Tyrion's tongue and offer to Cersei as a wedding gift(Silent Lion theory). This is all foreshadowed in the Forsaken chapter, as well as in some of Tyrion's chapters.(possibly hinted even at the TV show)

@@fang609 The Jogos Nhai are also pretty similar to the CotF in some ways, though their hostile ways are very man-like too.

Oh jeez Yeah it could be

Refresh my memory on that... I remember the isle of Leng and the freaky cities there and on the way there... Don't remember the creation story tho

I pictured asshai to be like kadath, which is an immense city with kind of nightmarish architecture. It was built by the shoggoth for their old god creators. To me, asshai seems older than the empire of the dawn and may have always been a corrupt land, probably due to an old God sleeping near stygai. And a fun idea, if dragons came from asshai, giving them to humans seems like a solid way for shub-niggurath to mess with humanity, which is what he does.

@@dydcpk yes, this explanation could also make sense... if it wasn't the great Empire of the Dawn, then this is the likely answer. Alternatively, there could be a hybrid scenario of sorts, where the great Empire of the Dawnwas in contact with these dark dragon Lords from The Shadow... perhaps a few of these were hired to come out and build the Five Forts or whatever. This kind of explanation could also make sense, but there's just not a lot to go on to suggest it - it's just kind of filling in the gaps with deductive reasoning and by considering the lovecraftian influences. the other thing about the great Empire of the Dawn theory that I like is that it actually intersects with the main story. Is something here about what it means for Jon or Dany to be Azor Ahai reborn and about the origin of dragons, or perhaps more likely the purpose of dragons. Plus, in the next video, we're going to consider the presence of the Daynes and Hightowers in Westeros and the crossover between the GeotD, Westeros, and the last hero.

Yeah there really isn't much to go on but I think you're right about the empire of the dawn. I just know damn well Martin dropped an old God near asshai and it's a nasty bit of business for the land around the city. I'm stoked for the next video!

Or maybe all the Emperors and The Empress are from the same blood and descendants of the God-on-Earth and Daenerys is descendant of all of them. I like to think that the Targaryens were form the blood of the royal family of the Great Empire of the Dawn and all the rest of the Valyrians were descendant of it's population. But it's just a supposition.

@@julianagouveia5047 I say the Targaryens are special because they are Valyrian. Plus the Targaryens were the lowest of Noble Valyrian families.

Blake Hunt They didn’t have the power to compete with other Noble dragon riding Valyrians.

@@Nubin2000 But Daenerys seems to be diferent of the others Targaryens.

@@Nubin2000 maybe the 42 noble families of valyria are all descended from the gemstone emperors/empresses... maybe it's a qualification of being inside the 42 circle no matter how much newbie dragon riders come up. the newbies won't ever enter the exclusive 42 circle. just a theory that came up to me while reading the comments on this thread 😅

So the intro music right at the beginning and the section breaks is taken from Monty Python and the Holy Grail, everything else I made (the sci-fi spooky soundtracks and that funky GoT theme thing when I talk about Patreon)

Could be... I took it as mythical, figurative language

The Grey King ended his reign by breaking up his driftwood crown and walking into the sea to join his father, the Drowned God, which is not too dissimilar from GoE ascending to heaven to join his ancestors. High Kings of the Iron Islands would have their crowns broken up and cast into the sea in commemoration of this. Furthermore, two events in Ironborn history parallel this: Erich "the Ugly" Greyiron, who had to break apart his crown and renounce his claim to kingship after crowning himself after his father's death w/o holding a kingsmoot, and Lodos, a priest proclaimed to be the son of the Drowned God (and thus brother of the Grey King), who led an uprising on the Isles in the wake of House Hoare's extinction at Harrenhal. When the Targaryens brought a fleet and army to subjugate the Isles, he called upon krakens to sink their ships; when no krakens appeared, he filled his robes w/rocks and walked into the sea to confer with his father. In other words, both were acts of defeat and/or submission, and so the Grey King's final acts should likely be read in the same manner. Where it gets wild is that a generation later, a man claiming to be Lodos leads another rebellion on the Iron Islands. While this "Lodos the Twice-Drowned" is likely an imposter, the claim raises the symbolic motif of resurrection from the sea, mirrored in the CPR ritual that the Drowned Men perform (itself a mundane version of the R'hllorist last kiss spell), and Stannis mentions to Davos that part of the Azor Ahai mythos is "a hero reborn in the sea." So, given that Azor Ahai was probably the Bloodstone Emperor, was he also the reincarnation of the God on Earth? Or something?

thanks a lot, I worked really hard on this one and I have also learned a lot of new video editing tricks from working with the Quinn master!

I was thinking to myself where is the crater to the meteorite theory now this makes a lot of sense. I wonder if it has connection to the demons that were a part of that first long night

Well, I totally agree with all of that, no doubt. What we're talking about here is an archetype, really. It's not just Euron as an echo of NK and BSE... There's also Aemond One Eye, Rhaegar, Stannis, and even Jon. All those people have Azor Ahai symbolism too - essentially, the way I see it, the NK archetype can be thought of as "Evil Azor Ahai," is mirrored by The Last Hero / "good AA" archetype. It's all quite messy and there is some overlap, but the parallels between these characters are undeniable. Just start with all the people that have one blue eye - Aemond One Eye, Euron, Waymar Royce at the end, and even the Blue Bard (the one Cersei and Qyburn torture). The one eye symbol denotes Transcendence of life and death, a la Odin, but having the one I be blue, instead of red like Bloodraven, it makes us think of ice magic and the Others of course. Check out the long night was his to rule, one of my older podcast videos. It goes into this archetype in depth, I'm sure you would find it interesting given your observations here!

​@@DavidLightbringer You're right, I meant to describe the archetype I see in all three characters and what they represent in terms of being the Emperor Palatine of their timelines. All three of them do appear to be linked, I agree with your description of them as Evil Azor Ahai. Even though we know very little of him, but I propose we should add the Warg King to the NK archetype over Stannis and Jon, but I'm only just now catching up to all of your videos so I'm curious for your reasoning. Oh, the joyous upside of quarantine! My comment was aimed more towards your notion of Eldric Shadowchaser being a name used in Westeros and how you would link Westeros to the Great Empire. If we do agree there are three people who fit the Evil Azor Ahai role in the story, would a possible connection not be one of poetic rhyme in a ring theory? As you may be able to tell from my profile pic here on UKposts, I'm a Star Wars fan (it's the symbol of the Jedi Order). One poetic thing in the first Star Wars trilogies that I love is that it uses a Ring Theory as proposed by Mike Klimo. Basically, Klimo points out how both Luke and Anakin Skywalker are facing very similar situations in the films. They go through similar arcs, but the camera work shows Luke is rising up into Jediism and Anakin falls to the dark side. I'm not doing the expansive theory any justice by summarising it. I think UKposts comments block url links, but if you look on Google for "Star Wars Ring Theory" you can find the link to Mike Klimos site. If we look at the Night's King story and follow Old Nan in assuming the Night's King is a brother of Brandon the Breaker and pair that with the archetype and close links between the Night's King and the Bloodstone Emperor... I think it's interesting that two such evil human(oid)s we meet in the story feature kinslaying. With Euron obviously also involved in kinslaying with Balon, Harlon and Robin, it is an other interesting element that involves the story of all three (and this is where I can see why you would consider Stannis to fit the archetype). If elements throughout history do so often repeat themselves in Georges story. Not just with the Bloodstone Emperor, but also with the Night's King and Euron. If these events repeat themselves independent from each other... I am inclined to buy your theory of astrology playing a factor in all this. Anyway, I'm going to go through your backlog and hope to stay up-to-date on your new projects! I very much enjoyed the series you did with Quinn and hopefully my schedule permits me to be there for tomorrow's stream!

I mostly agree with you, in that I think the EpiCentre of the disaster - I tend to think meteor strike, but maybe it was just a horrifically dark spell - would have been at Stygai, the corpse City at the heart of the shadowlands which you alluded to. I don't think that makes it the capital though, it sounds more like a religious shrine, a dark Oracle of Delphi type place. That may be where the bloodstone emperor went to work his spell, or to sacrifice the amethyst empress, or whatever happens. But Asshai makes the most sense to me as the actual capital because of its sheer size. if the disasters epicenter was in the shadowlands as we both suspect, that would explain why the city wasn't destroyed, but just rather poisoned. if it was a meteor strike, then there is probably a big nasty black stone at Stygai or in the Shadowlands somewhere, it's fell magic leaching into the land and turning everything toxic and black. That is exactly what happened in the color out of space, which is probably lovecraft's most famous story about a meteorite..

Yo😮😂... It could be that simple.

Maybe they used dragons fire to create the concrete

Alternatively, like the Rhoynar, the First Men were victims of the GED's expansion and fled west to escape them with the GED itself never doing more than establishing small bases on the fringes of Westeros.

I think its just ruled from everything east of the bone mountains and wesr of the forts,with asshai as capital but probably had many colonies

I think it went further east than we originally think and was pushed all the way back to Yi Ti Oldtown is on the western coast of Westeros not the east. If they pushed west we would’ve seen houses with Valyrian features in Gulltown or duskendale.

@@alphagamer9505 there is also Ulthos.

@@kekero540 west of the five forts and east of the bone mountains

Love all that! And yea the black amethysts from Asshai in Sansa’s hairnet are the purple serpents with fangs dripping venom in the Ghost of High Heart’s vision. So, dragons again, and moon meteors too because that hairnet star serpent is what darkens the face of the sun. So it’s all Nissa Nissa stuff, and Nissa Nissa and the Am Empress are either the same or related figures

I dont understand it to mean that ASOIAF is a post-apocalyptic sci-fi, i see it more as an ex sci-fi writers take on a post-apocalyptic fantasy. But I still enjoy this take, and this way of seing things. I just dont think we will get some big sci-fi reveal in the end

I'm guessing Martin is just a fan of Zecharia Sitchin, but I'm with you. I doubt it would ever have anything to do with ASOIAF, but it may well be something in Martin's own head - something he quietly chuckles to himself about when people bring up the 'magic' of the fantasy, that it's all actually 'science' misappropriated by the characters. Wouldn't surprise me at all. But I'd say the meteor theory for the bloodstone and apparent radioactivity of Asshai is probably on point.

Extra theory: Dragons are alien creatures brought to ASOIAF Earth with the ancient alien invaders lol

I’m pretty sure Martin himself has shot down this theory. He said he was originally planning on making GoT ‘secret sci-fi’, where the world appeared to be medieval fantasy but was actually post apocalyptic sci fi but decided to go straight fantasy. Maybe some elements of this idea remain present but I doubt it will ever affect the plot of ASoIaF or become canon.

That's possible since that is a common syllable along with "rys" "aera"

That would make a lot of sense: magic is cyclical, but magic-based empires try to make new sources which ends in disaster.

The Great Other will be his new biggest fan lmao

Its the name of his channel. I do enjoy his content but i will not subscribe to a page that embraces Lucifer. Call me a religious idiot but a man must have a code.

@@MrJemal23 I mean... the word 'lucifer' used to refer to matchsticks.

The Twitterati came after him , but my man stood back up. Soon the fickle fandom will come back around. I’ve been listening to LML since 2016 and even with the Twatter stuff his content wasn’t derailed. Talk about staying the course.

Jrosa you watch the content though, why would you watch “lucifers” content but draw the line at subscribing??

Lucifer sempai noticed me

Right on Rusty thank you!! Welcome !

Thank you, thank you, I always appreciate it when people acknowledge the genius of my old man impression. Really, it's the best thing I do =p

...which is hard to do cu, ya know, the shadow

@@DavidLightbringer my man