NYT’s Bret Stephens on Israel, 4 Years of GoodFellows, and An Invite to JK Rowling | GoodFellows

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As the six-month anniversary of Hamas’s attack on Israel approaches, what to expect next in that struggle-and is the American president and Israeli prime minister’s working relationship beyond repair? New York Times columnist Bret Stephens joins Hoover senior fellows Niall Ferguson, John Cochrane, and H.R. McMaster to discuss the war’s possible expansion into southern Lebanon and Stephens’s vision of a rebuilt Gaza as a Mediterranean version of Dubai. After that, a celebration of four years since GoodFellows’ “shelter-in place” debut, including a little boasting (they saw inflation coming), a little contrition (they didn’t see Trump rebounding), and some big takeaways on geopolitics, economics, and the pandemic’s legacy.
ABOUT THE SERIES
GoodFellows, a Hoover Institution broadcast, features senior fellows John Cochrane, Niall Ferguson, and H.R. McMaster discussing the social, economic, and geostrategic ramifications of this changed world. They can’t banter over lunch these days, but they continue their spirited conversation online about what comes next, as we look forward to an end to the crisis.
For more on this series visit, www.hoover.org/goodfellows.
The opinions expressed on this channel are those of the authors and do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the Hoover Institution or Stanford University.
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@--Dani
@--Dani Місяць тому
Have loved the show since you started, I don't want to lose a Goodfellow, can we add Stephen Kotkin more often.
@davidholloway1776
@davidholloway1776 Місяць тому
Happy anniversary GoodFellows. I enjoy this weekly treat very much. I appreciate you taking the time.
@TheVeritas2100
@TheVeritas2100 Місяць тому
ditto
@Zero_Zero_Zero_Zero
@Zero_Zero_Zero_Zero Місяць тому
Gratitude for the analysis. I continue to be amazed at the generosity. Thank you all.
@TheVeritas2100
@TheVeritas2100 Місяць тому
what analysis ! ? ... what have we learned ?
@MrJoel9679
@MrJoel9679 Місяць тому
Yes to J K Rowling as a guest.
@lewissmith350
@lewissmith350 Місяць тому
Yes, she is a hero, extremely brave for sticking to her completely reasonable totally uncontroversial vanilla beliefs, despite appalling attempts to silence, and utterly mis represent her statements. I honestly think she deserves a Nobel prize for standing her ground, when so many looked the other way. P.s, I am also proud Scottish civil society was so capable at criticising the new laws that jk opposed, some countries publics have just accepted what their elites wanted, but in Scotland their has been real debate and criticism of the law, not fawning obedience. If it had not been for that, I think Scotland would be seeing people being arrested for saying utterly trivial vanilla beliefs, but they have made the law now quite likely a unworkable laughing shops, by their campaign against it. And jk Rowling deserves most respect. Plus all the women and men who rightly condemned the most absurd elements of this new law, which organisations like s e x matters. highlighted so well. Plus to be fair the Scottish conservatives, who have a vote winner on this issue. Although there are minor parties like alba, who oppose aspects of the law as well.
@freespirit6209
@freespirit6209 Місяць тому
Happy anniversary, gentlemen. Thank you for your time - much appreciated.
@Erlingha
@Erlingha Місяць тому
Happy anniversary! 🎉
@davidburke2666
@davidburke2666 Місяць тому
Brilliant, congratulations on your 4th anniversary. I watch every episode and have learned much. Thank you.
@nealljones
@nealljones Місяць тому
Love these guys. Thanks for continuing the podcast!
@debbieallen7585
@debbieallen7585 Місяць тому
John you are totally on the money about the lawfare against Trump.
@tonyzaffirini7368
@tonyzaffirini7368 Місяць тому
What conservatives dont realize was that the intent of the law fare was to bring Trump back not make him go away. The lawfare gave the Dems the candidate they most wanted. The GOP base did exactly what the Dems expected them to do.
@TheRealBlueValhalla
@TheRealBlueValhalla Місяць тому
Lulz
@MB-or1kh
@MB-or1kh Місяць тому
I have a lot of respect for John, but the lawfare argument is just inaccurate. Are some of the charges weak, yes, but most aren’t and to ignore that fact and dismiss all of the cases with the right wing talking point of lawfare is just lazy thinking at best. That is at least the 2nd time he has made the comment on the show, and I hope in future episodes he can expand upon his position with more detail on a case by case basis.
@terrracottta
@terrracottta Місяць тому
Had we had to re-elect you, we'd have done it in a heartbeat. You are the best!
@MrJoel9679
@MrJoel9679 Місяць тому
Happy Fourth Anniversary. Quick shout out to your honorary Goodfellow Stephen Kotkin.
@strelnikoff1632
@strelnikoff1632 Місяць тому
The best, most adult geopolitical hour in media
@AuditorInvestor
@AuditorInvestor Місяць тому
Very adult sweeping the deaths of US and Western aid workers under the carpet.
@ridgegameren6921
@ridgegameren6921 Місяць тому
You’ve got to be kidding. Not one dissenting view. Every episode is untempered war advocacy. The head of Hoover is candy rice the architect of the Iraq war, lol. The only lesson they ever learn is they should have gone further, more bombs, more interference, more death. The guest speaker literally spoke about how Israel needs to preempt war with Hezbola and Iran. Explain how unconditional support for Israel is in the US interest??? If it was they wouldn’t have to pour billions through aipac, adl, ect
@gayleham
@gayleham Місяць тому
4 yrs? Sure hope you continue. I don’t think I have missed a single episode. Appreciate you all !
@ellentuchler7103
@ellentuchler7103 Місяць тому
Congratulations and thank you for the 4 years of great discussion and learning! A true ray of brightness in 4 years of quite a bit of bleakness.
@sandipmistry5218
@sandipmistry5218 Місяць тому
Happy anniversary ! 4 very insightful and enjoyable years watching and listening! You were always ahead of the curve providing great insight ! Please do keep it up 👍 love the format!
@mitchgibbs2432
@mitchgibbs2432 Місяць тому
Thank you. We don't have any reliable source for this information other than GoodFellows!
@recitalspringfmc
@recitalspringfmc Місяць тому
Congrats!!!
@stephendyer5879
@stephendyer5879 Місяць тому
When is the perception of weakness just a reality that the US isn't that strong.
@bobbinsthethird
@bobbinsthethird Місяць тому
Was the US Weak when Japan attacked Pearl harbor, or was it a perception of the US being not that strong that was shared by Japan and by Americans themselves?
@Richard19551
@Richard19551 Місяць тому
@@bobbinsthethird It was both. The U.S. was weak when Japan attacked - but it had the potential to grow strong - and I think Japan and the U.S. both knew that. The major impediments to growing strong now are: i) a willful ignorance by many of the danger, ii) the enormity of social spending (entitlements) that didn't exist in 1941 and crowds out the potential to swell defense expenditures, iii) the low birth rate endangering Social Security and (since 1941) the new Medicare spending. Close down federal spending for education, health care and pensions - if states want to pick up those obligations, fine - and spend that money on defense (payment for the bases and a military draft, conversion from peacetime to defense manufacturing and purchase of weapons) and the U.S. is strong again. As in 1941, it has the potential.
@hostashevsky
@hostashevsky Місяць тому
Congratulations on your anniversary, Good Fellows! You give such an unstoppable intellectual satisfaction to your audience ! Thank you !
@TheVeritas2100
@TheVeritas2100 Місяць тому
individually , as amazingly smart and intelligent they are , together they came up with nohing, nada, bupkis !
@alexanders88
@alexanders88 Місяць тому
All 4 of you guy are awesome. Its nice & enjoyable to listen to a discussion and not shouting back & forth. Only wish you were a weekly podcast. Thank you again.
@gmilton4227
@gmilton4227 Місяць тому
Happy Anniversary!
@edmundcomet
@edmundcomet Місяць тому
Keep going fellas!!
@advocate1563
@advocate1563 Місяць тому
Love this podcast. Voice of sanity in a desert.
@Martin-qm2lg
@Martin-qm2lg Місяць тому
Happy 4th anniversary and many thanks for your commentary and discussions. Always learn a great deal. Also for the author and book references.
@AshleyCichocki
@AshleyCichocki Місяць тому
The more I listen to John Cochrane, the more I like him. Great show!
@ashleywebb2736
@ashleywebb2736 Місяць тому
Agree. When the show started he was very much the unknown quantity but he he has often left me with the most to think about.
@VincentFulco
@VincentFulco Місяць тому
One of the best of the best gatherings of academics and practitioners on the web. Thanks gentlemen!
@henrymroth9455
@henrymroth9455 Місяць тому
You guys are great, but could you please bring Steve Kotkin back, please?
@TheVeritas2100
@TheVeritas2100 Місяць тому
these FOIUR unfortunaley were MISMATCHED bunch to come up with anything meaningful ! ! !
@geoffreywilds4173
@geoffreywilds4173 Місяць тому
You all have been a wellspring of wisdom and knowledge to me since the pandemic. Thank you for everything you all have done.
@DanteAlighieri78
@DanteAlighieri78 27 днів тому
Brilliant as always. I follow your show from Transylvania.
@dz-vs6jc
@dz-vs6jc Місяць тому
Love the Goodfellows. Please keep the shows coming
@lawrencefrost9063
@lawrencefrost9063 Місяць тому
I have no idea how but I stumbled upon your show around 3-4 years ago and I have been watching every episode since. Thank you!
@johnl5316
@johnl5316 Місяць тому
Sweden did well with the virus as did Florida
@michaelchesterman7992
@michaelchesterman7992 Місяць тому
Happy anniversary guys! Many, many, many happy returns. Pleeeeeease keep up this great project. INVITE MICHAEL PORTILLO🙏🙂
@StephLin6897
@StephLin6897 Місяць тому
What an interesting left-of-field suggestion. I’d love to see my favourite British politician and train enthusiast on the Good Fellows. We ‘met’ Michael on our trans-Canadian train trip a few years ago. A true gentleman and a good thinker. Bring him on please!
@royjacobs1204
@royjacobs1204 Місяць тому
Hahaha, JK Rowling? She is the new Queen of Terf Island and the Empress of our free speech in our green and pleasant land. I am sure she will consider your request
@lawrencemartin24
@lawrencemartin24 Місяць тому
Have not missed a single episode!!!
@TC-cd5fh
@TC-cd5fh Місяць тому
Love this show. High quality debate (unlike some legacy media).
@Drunkwithsuccess
@Drunkwithsuccess Місяць тому
I’ve been a fan from the beginning. It’s like must see TV. Congratulations gents.
@michaelbeall4904
@michaelbeall4904 Місяць тому
Congrats on an amazing 4 year run. Always a deeply satisfying show. Please please continue- your efforts are widely appreciated!
@benbellelogan
@benbellelogan Місяць тому
Please, please don’t stop. You have been a constant source of wonderful things to ponder.
@lolotus4borderless
@lolotus4borderless Місяць тому
By far the greatest podcast from Stanford, timeless and borderless
@tomcullen8367
@tomcullen8367 Місяць тому
Another great show! Awesome discussion! The Navy announced yesterday that the Constellation Frigate Program delivery will be delayed 3 years, from 2026 to 2029 (along with some other shipbuilding programs that will be delayed). Can Good Fellows provide a bullhorn on this issue? Who can be held accountable? Should the Vendor be fired? How can we fix this? China is crushing us on the shipbuilding competition.
@pmsheridan1492
@pmsheridan1492 Місяць тому
Happy Anniversary Guys! A great show. I learn a lot, sometimes disagree but appreciate the format, guests and tone of the discussion. Thank god for the Hoover Institute! Keep doing what you're doing. All the best.
@karlstriepe8050
@karlstriepe8050 Місяць тому
John's speech on COVID was amazing and heartbreaking.
@gnukkignukk7536
@gnukkignukk7536 Місяць тому
One thing is how much of a relief it is to see the GoodFellows-video every now and then compared to the average content on UKposts, but one could also say the same about the comment-section here. Congratulations with the anniversary.
@davidcooke8059
@davidcooke8059 Місяць тому
I thought the comments re an Arab mandate in Palestine were interesting.
@guydaines6916
@guydaines6916 Місяць тому
Brilliant show South Africa 🇿🇦
@Ladybearclaw28806
@Ladybearclaw28806 Місяць тому
Thank you Guys! Happy Anniversary! Love your show and watch every time you have a new podcast!🙂
@mbos322
@mbos322 Місяць тому
My country of Australia has become very weak. Our Covid response was a joke. We have elected a paternalistic government that bows down to China. As an aside, I am having my third Covid infection right now and it is milder than a cold.
@michaelhammang3240
@michaelhammang3240 Місяць тому
Thank you GREATLY, guys!!!! Look forward to many more.
@TRFan26
@TRFan26 Місяць тому
Please, fellas. Keep the podcasts coming!
@user-tk1jj1cp9x
@user-tk1jj1cp9x Місяць тому
Love the show. Best wishes from Taiwan.
@sydsacks9097
@sydsacks9097 Місяць тому
Well done guys your programme is unmissable!
@mysneekers5862
@mysneekers5862 Місяць тому
What makes this program so successful is that the four people really enjoy each other. Happy Forth Anniversary GoodFellows!
@charlesmackey8179
@charlesmackey8179 Місяць тому
Always a breath of sanity!!
@dispatchteam729
@dispatchteam729 Місяць тому
Happy anniversary. Hopefully there will be many more years to come
@BarbaraCorrias-mh7en
@BarbaraCorrias-mh7en Місяць тому
Happy anniversary!! Thank you for your services
@johnbell4328
@johnbell4328 Місяць тому
I'm happy to be able to say that I discovered Good Fellows only a few weeks after launch and an pretty sure that I haven't missed an episode.
@StephLin6897
@StephLin6897 Місяць тому
Happy Anniversary Good Fellows 🎉. I’ve been a loyal listener for at least 3 of your 4 years and never miss an episode. Please keep this oasis of thoughtful common sense analysis going. We need you!
@billweberx
@billweberx Місяць тому
My politics are slightly left of center, but I thoroughly enjoy this conversation and appreciate the wisdom these gentlemen possess. I don't agree with all points made, do with a surprising number. The far right went off the deep end long ago and now the far left has gone berserk. These guys are closer to the center where mainstream politics should be. Thanks for taking the time for us.
@mrclutch444
@mrclutch444 Місяць тому
Happy Anniversary! Hope the show goes on forever
@Video2Webb
@Video2Webb Місяць тому
Goodness me, how much I enjoy this show. It's fabulous. Much respect for all involved. And thank you. To 4 more years, at least!
@twoLippy4u
@twoLippy4u Місяць тому
Great episode gentlemen
@FinnGriffin
@FinnGriffin Місяць тому
I eagerly await every Goodfellow's arrival! Well done gentleman, as always!
@emmyojebode1666
@emmyojebode1666 Місяць тому
Happy Anniversary 🎉
@oliverjamito9902
@oliverjamito9902 Місяць тому
Thank you Pops! Attending unto our OWN and unto one another! Thank you
@dasglasperlenspiel10
@dasglasperlenspiel10 Місяць тому
As he is about two thirds of the time, Niall was completely correct and inspiring in his final comment. Bring on J. K. Rowling. As a person who had no success in appreciating the Harry Potter books, I have been, many times, so pleased when I have heard Ms Rowling speak on public issues. She would make a wonderful contribution to your program, which is my favorite on the internet!
@laurentiujiglau9810
@laurentiujiglau9810 Місяць тому
Thank you, gentlemen!
@egverlander
@egverlander Місяць тому
Another fine episode. Thank you.
@mrjvc
@mrjvc Місяць тому
Amazing as usual - always enlightening
@peterforsythe3643
@peterforsythe3643 Місяць тому
Middle East/Gaza: Brett’s comments and suggested solutions from ~16:30 on, strike me as sensible, practicable and useful. I support!
@YellowLab1
@YellowLab1 Місяць тому
Gen McMaster. Thank you. Your insights into what Israel needs to do regarding the destabilization and threat of Hezbollah was an eye opener for me. After listening to you I believe you're completely correct sir. Regretfully.
@karlernstbuddenbrock371
@karlernstbuddenbrock371 Місяць тому
Excellent commentary, as always.
@lizgichora6472
@lizgichora6472 Місяць тому
Lessons learned: Thank you all for a great panel discussion, " On Perception. " Fruit, Flower or Appliances.
@--Dani
@--Dani Місяць тому
JK 👍👍
@vectoraerialimaging774
@vectoraerialimaging774 Місяць тому
HR For President!!
@ynwadpaggy8157
@ynwadpaggy8157 Місяць тому
I wish the US government would adapt GoodFellows advice
@judge4all
@judge4all Місяць тому
Happy Anniversary
@monicahart3071
@monicahart3071 Місяць тому
🎉Congrats Gentlemen on your 4 year anniversary 🎉
@gabrielderman974
@gabrielderman974 Місяць тому
I am a fan ❤
@YellowLab1
@YellowLab1 Місяць тому
Good grief. Just finished listening to your review of the destructive, incompetent top-down Covid response John Cochrane. As a now retired MD IMHO I believe you've completely nailed it ! And agree esteemed fellow Stanford medical scholar Dr. Jay Bhattacharya had the correct analysis from early on but was maliciously attacked and suppressed by the entrenched central planners. Sadly. Enormously costly mistakes were made. Hopefully we've learned.
@vijay-1
@vijay-1 Місяць тому
Well explained
@farinati
@farinati Місяць тому
JK ROWLING ON GOODFELLOWS
@elrevesyelderecho
@elrevesyelderecho Місяць тому
Congratulations!
@bt3205
@bt3205 Місяць тому
A good discussion
@stevendepuy4377
@stevendepuy4377 Місяць тому
39:00 I totally agree. I wanted no part of DJT again, but when they started the DOJ attacks, I decided I will vote for him again, not like there is any serious other choice.
@scepisle4970
@scepisle4970 Місяць тому
Wow.. lots of talk about the harrowing civilian casualties happening on a daily basis........... not.
@DillyDolittle
@DillyDolittle Місяць тому
Love you GoodFellows & your guests. Just hope Niall is wrong about Biden winning in November 🤞🙏
@nancychace8619
@nancychace8619 Місяць тому
Thanks for sharing, guys. One little thing about wearing masks during the pandemic... N-95s do work if worn properly. The little surgical ones aren't nearly as good b/c they inevitably allow air, possibly infected, access to the wearer's nose and mouth. I know this first hand from personal experience with the infection and long covid, which I still suffer from. I can tell right away when I've been exposed, and know once or twice have managed to dodge the Covid bullet. How? By wearing an N-95 with a snug fit. At the very least, they help. I get what you're saying about the relatively 'small' death rates. Even so, bodies stacked up in reefer trucks b/c mortuaries were swamped was nothing to take for granted. God help us if the death rate is 10% the next time. Agree with much else of what you said. I'll never figure out how so many people could be so dismissive of the virus. I'm vaccinated up one side and down the other. Enjoyed listening. Congratulations on your successful 4 years. Take care -
@lonecandle5786
@lonecandle5786 Місяць тому
McMaster says he got right the consequences of withdrawing from Afghanistan, but the consequences that he often repeats are reasonable speculation. Where's the evidence that Putin further invaded Ukraine because of a U.S. Afghanistan withdrawal? Putin may have invaded anyways; he certainly already wanted influence or control of that country and had already invaded Crimea and supported separatists in the east.
@GentlemanJack705
@GentlemanJack705 Місяць тому
Bret: "The audience that Israel needs to win over is not at Brown, Stanford, or Harvard." This is a pretty shortsighted statement. As the polling from 2022 shows, older Americans have more favorable attitudes towards Israel than younger ones, so much so that there is a sincere generational gap with respect to positive views towards Israel and that gap widens with each passing day. If Israel wants to have continued US support in the future, it should probably take into consideration the views of the next generation's leaders for they will be in the driver's seat when it comes to future engagements with Israel.
@Sphere723
@Sphere723 Місяць тому
Really Israel needs to influence the young boys in the Palestinian territories. They are the biggest future threat to Israeli security. It's easy to dismiss those being killed in Gaza as Hamas militants, but they are also the martyred fathers/brothers/uncles of the next Palestinian generation.
@kevinjenner9502
@kevinjenner9502 Місяць тому
AIPAC owns Congress.
@kevinjenner9502
@kevinjenner9502 Місяць тому
AIPAC should be required to register under FARA…End foreign election interference.
@tb8865
@tb8865 Місяць тому
They are betting on continued control of BOTH political parties, public opinion be damned. As long as the American leadership is bought off they feel like they can do whatever.
@obfuscati
@obfuscati Місяць тому
Isreal will never recover its standing with Western Europe and the US. There are weathly Jewish donors and the older Americans with disproportionate influence. They killed the humanitarian workers on purpose.
@dustyfairview9062
@dustyfairview9062 Місяць тому
Does cochrane have his own show? Cause ugh those other guys
@lonecandle5786
@lonecandle5786 Місяць тому
We don't know if it was a lab leak, yet Cochrane states that it was like that is a known fact.
@michaelcarter5049
@michaelcarter5049 Місяць тому
Congratulations Guys - not one stacked bookshelf in the background. At last, a group of free thinkers! :-)
@MFJoneser
@MFJoneser Місяць тому
No coverage on the verbiage of pandemic laws that was written by the industry incentivized by pandemics? Whoops!
@ashleywebb2736
@ashleywebb2736 Місяць тому
Happy Anniversary. Listened to every episode. I love Neil, but I wish he would hold his hand up about the Covid debate . His holding up of Taiwan and its test, test, test and then isolate policy as a great model was proven to be ineffective. I have rewatched some older episodes, and John Cochrane undoubtedly expressed the most concern about the overreach and loss of liberties as a bigger concern. Also, could he not have a word with his old mucker Cameron. Give him a call to stiffen his backbone.
@Ladybearclaw28806
@Ladybearclaw28806 Місяць тому
Come on that would be great! Get JK Rawling on the Goodfellows!
@joshuachapman247
@joshuachapman247 Місяць тому
I hope for another 4 years.
@carlbyronrodgers
@carlbyronrodgers Місяць тому
Enjoyable as always.Hate Law ,Celtic Vs Rangers.
@hedgehog5ful
@hedgehog5ful Місяць тому
Bret Stephens: wants an Arab Mandate for Gaza (poss Palestine). I could actually see that backfiring, if for example Palestine policy became a political football inside some of those countries; or if it became a theatre for rivalries between the states to play out... But this is the first really positive suggestion I've heard on this issue, so I hope to hear it explored further. No surprise I heard it on GoodFellows. Great work, you guys. 4 more years, at least!
@bobsnow1996
@bobsnow1996 Місяць тому
Thank you for another great show and for four fantastic years, I know you touched on the Scotland Hate Speech law, but I believe you need to come back to this topic again and probably again. These Hate speech laws in liberal democracies are very worrisome and worse threat to democracy than Putin could ever be because these laws are being concocted from within Western Liberal Democracies across the West. This is very dangerous and needs too be pointed out to the general public and nipped in the bud, otherwise authoritarian regimes will spring up within the West... I see this as a real danger to Free Speech. Reading about the Scottish law sounds like it was written by someone who was a member of the East German Stasi and misses good old Communism.
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