Ryan Leaf

Trubisky

Hasheen thabeet

Sugar Ray Robinson

Tua tagoviloa ik I might of spelled his name wrong

Who doesn't?

@@soulreaper1461 graduated now, i remember making fun of a kid reading a textbook in 7th grade. He said “work hard now, get rich later and then party”. I laughed and called him a nerd, i see his point now.

@@Glibzer yes but college parties are way different and more chill. People are "better" for partying at college

@@teto85 that never happened did it teto?

@@teto85 🧢

Hey, that's what happens when parents don't punish their kids. Manziel and Josh Gordon wasted so much potential, just to get high.

@@edwardgaines6561 Yes, sir, that has a lot to do with it.

@@edwardgaines6561 u everywhere and for once I agree

@@cliffpaul2483 ✌

@@edwardgaines6561 true

Great story!!

Haha what a story Mark

Manziel might have worked in Dallas though. The Cleveland coaching staff had no game plan for Manziel's free wheeling style.

​@@meghanmisaliarENORMOUS 65 INCH VEINY BLACK DIK FORCED INTO A STEAMY BUT WHOLE

i agree, the reality is teams like the browns dont know how to develop a quarterback. he should have never seen the field that rookie year and kept under strict watch like dez bryant was as a rookie@@ylekiote99999

Intelligence?

@@drschwork ethic

A big What if

@@ceufrscio707 Next Daniel Jones??😮😮

Probably because he grew up rich and spoiled

Nah he said had LeBron trying to talk sense into him and he knew at the time nobody was gonna be able to get through to him

Dude, Manziel threw for 1,500 yards with 7 touchdowns in 2015. I don't know, sounds pretty solid to me, but what do I know.

All draftees (especially first rounders) should undergo a psychiatric evaluation before their first training camp so they could get the help they need and nip it at the bud.

They been doing that lol my cousin is in the league. They evaluate the guys at the draft combine

@@moneyonfleek305 no he isn't you'd name drop if he was. Unless it's Richard Sherman. Then no one would blame you

@@ryanstatt9910 why would i name drop him? You’re one of these fans that i guess sees players as superheroes lol its not that hard to Believe they’re human as well. You sound miserable bro! Smh and he’s a backup safety

@@moneyonfleek305 in today's world, it's who you know. It's a very bragadocious society. Not miserable at all and if your boy made it, good on him.

Same here

"TRIPLE" ditto that ! 👍

His family is loaded. Much of their wealth made by screwing over and stealing from other people. They'd drill oil & gas wells and then just not pay royalty owners what they were owed. That's just one example of the type of grifts they would run. The name Manziel is found in court records of several east Texas counties more than any other name.

X4

@@honestbuiltperformance1819 🤣 🤣 👍

I do sports for a local radio station in Kerrville. I am encouraged to joke around on the air sometimes, but out of respect for Kerrville, Manziel is off-limits. Announcer: it’s TIE-vee. And Kerrville is more like 60 miles northwest of San Antonio.

Dud they have his original jersey still up in the field house when you walk in, i remember a bunch of my friends asked coach jones when they were gonna burn it… he didnt like that too much. 😂

@@richardzowie1984 it's okay the rest of Texas still thinks he was the best Aggie joke of all time.

​@@richardzowie1984why is he off limits???

U wrong for this comment. 🤣

bro lemme get it lmao

You may be waiting a long, long time.

@Mighty mouse209 b Hell he has mud

@Mighty mouse209 b My head hurts when I try to read what you call English.

I knew before that. Teddy was the guy to pick at QB. Go back and look at the film from their college days. Body language says all you need to know about respective levels of maturity and leadership.

I was 100% against the pick and I was right

I would have taken Carr at 26.

Haslam loves those arrogant Texas boys.

its the browns, they have wasted a lot of stuff forever LOL

still has more money than you will ever make in your life. what is woulda coulda shoulda to you? I think having a cool 6 million in the bank to buy a house start a family and make sure they get the best education and opportunities possible is awesome.

​@@v.9395🤣🤣🤣. He doesn't still have that much. He's an addict. They spend!

​@@v.9395and what is money when you're seen as a failure?? Nothing!

drew brees already paved the way for the guys under 6'0

If Doug Flutie couldn't do it no one can

Or asking (the late) Jeffrey Epstein to babysit your teenage daughters.

That’s a funny ass movie 😭

😂😂😂

Just think if they hadn't traded up 4 spots. If he had still been there at 26 it wouldn't materially have been much of a difference, but they would have looked a lot less bad. If someone grabbed him and they needed a QB, they'd have had to settle for Bridgewater or Carr.

You ain't wrong dawg lol

Exactly, as a Browns fan this hurts so bad. I hated the pick at the time and I was right. He had enough talent to dominate in college, but talent isnt enough in the pros. Every player is supremely talented.

Short quarterbacks always get hurt in the NFL if they're drafted by a team with crappy line protection.

@@adamh.2791 Johnny more than had the physical skills to make it in the NFL, and he most definitely was NOT "your average college talent". It was his mind that fucked him. And HARD.

He actually did have the skill to be a good mobile Dual threat QB but he never took the game seriously and just didnt want to stop partying and it finally caught up to him it’s different partying then playing when u a kid but when its ur job it will ruin you ..

He's a college QB

@@chrischar9428 He's a tattooed freak now.

Hard to feel bad for someone that was given everything he could've hoped for.

@@edwardgaines6561Lmao tattoos are very common now. Is everyone just an alien to you?

@@rchyy9217 Oh yeah, I'm sure doctors and lawyers and scientists all have facial tattoos. 😒

Pathetic comment from someone w/o life experience and a person on the far outside of pro sports. Ok if you say so, rube.

@@ctruth6185 lol relax stupid he's talking about how manziel wasted his talent doesn't matter if OP if a fat ass.

@@ctruth6185 he’s right though.

He got exactly what he deserved for the effort that he put forth....Lol.. Hope he can find a way to support himself now.

I'm not so sure Manziel had NFL level talent

Didn't seem to be a problem for Tom Brady or Bill Laimbeer. In fact, when Laimbeer was playing, he was the only player in the NBA whose father made more money than he did. He used to joke about that. Success has to do with personal integrity and motivation to be the best you can be - and that has NOTHING to do with how much money your parents may have.

Plenty of successful pro athletes grew up with money.

His parents spoiled him. It’s not the money, it’s the mindset.

Some people are who they are no matter who raises them.

Ahhh yes. "ricH pEoPLe aRe aLL sPoiLEd jErKS wAAaaHH. tAx tHe riCH" fucks sake.......plenty of players who grew up "poor" turned out just as bad, if not worse than him. In fact that happens FAR more often because they're stuck living that dumbass street life they couldn't leave behind. Oh but right.....we're not supposed to say that cuz of certain "r word" implications.....totally cool to stereotype a rich white kid though am i right?

Probably something that happened behind closed doors

Drugs

I love it

🤣

Literally what i say every time one of my fellow Cowboy fans tries to tell me Jerry isn't the problem. Manziel was a GUARANTEED absolute disaster......and Jerry wanted him THAT bad.....incredible.

He wanted a wingman on the party circuit.

Would have worked…

@@rk3246 meanwhile the browns owner drafted him because a homeless man walked up to the owner and told him to. Wish I were joking.

Guess what, we don't know shit! Multimillion $ GMs with legions of scouts triplechecking every millisecond of film....FAIL TOTALLY at acquiring talent. Its fun to study and learn, but its not predictive. Johnny was an easy lesson: He had ZERO fundamentals, footwork, anything resembling sound QB play. Like Tim Tebow. You can get away with a LITTLE bit of bad fundamentals if you can read defenses and throw to the right spot in 2.5 seconds. If you can't its over.

right. i still believe he could’ve been great if he was drafted by any other team than the Browns that can get his head straight.

No! He did this to himself. Don't blame his parents. Now, doon't get me wrong, his parents didn't help a lick, but Johnny did this to himself. I wish him the best but there comes a point where you have to look in the mirror and say this is my mess that I made and I will be the one to clean it up.

Exactly, the people who enable that behavior are almost as guilty. He should've been told no a long time ago.

how can you blame the parents? Once he got into college, and started to get fame, he was a full blown adult, and had money... What were the parents going to do? Hop on a flight, and go scold their kid every other day. It's nobodies fault but his, this can be said quite literally about any drug addict.

@@danielgriffiths5901 Yeah you're not going to tell a recovering heroin addict how addiction works. I have 7 years sober, my parents literally couldn't do anything to stop me, I was raised very well. It was the friends, and people I hungout with once I got older, and was able to make my own decisions in life. I know people who were 4.0 students in College, and went to become a doctor, who ended up being an addict, and addicted to drugs. He didn't start messing up, until he was older, and away from parents. Your point is mute

What's the problem? It's not like he had teammates and coaches fulfilling their end of the bargain by showing up prepared.

@@GrimeBot-io7ho What excuses will you use for him the other 18 chances he had to prove he was capable of handling life as a professional? He was a totally irresponsible, immature ass. A waste of talent.

I grew up in Texas and for about two years, when the prison was under reconstruction, they used our high school as a place to facilitate executions. Usually they do them at night, but since the our school was closed in the evening they had to conduct them in the morning, usually before school started, but there were always delays so it usually happened during first or second period. It seemed like they did one every other week. One time they had a delay and had to do it in the afternoon and the condemned inmate shared the cafeteria with A lunch students. He wasn't allowed to leave the table or anything, he had shackles on and officers around him all the time, so we weren't scared but watching him just eating lunch from a cafeteria trey and laughing and talking to all the prison guys there was surreal. Just imagining that in less than an hour he would be dead and here he was acting like it was just another day.

@@beckydoesit9331 what high school was this lol

I grew up in Texas and for about two years, when the prison was under reconstruction, they used our high school as a place to facilitate executions. Usually they do them at night, but since the our school was closed in the evening they had to conduct them in the morning, usually before school started, but there were always delays so it usually happened during first or second period. It seemed like they did one every other week. One time they had a delay and had to do it in the afternoon and the condemned inmate shared the cafeteria with A lunch students. He wasn't allowed to leave the table or anything, he had shackles on and officers around him all the time, so we weren't scared but watching him just eating lunch from a cafeteria trey and laughing and talking to all the prison guys there was surreal. Just imagining that in less than an hour he would be dead and here he was acting like it was just another day.

runaround make-a-play quarterbacking works well for Patrick Mahome's, as it did for Fran Tarkenton.

His abilities and playing style was never the problem... Anyone with a brain would know that... Russell Wilson and Patrick Mahomes both play the exact same way and both of them are Super Bowl Champions, so stop... His immaturity and lack of giving a damn was his only problem...

@@RobotRebelCinema not exactly. Mahomes improvises and finds an open receiver who he hits with an accurate if unconventional pass. Manziel avoided the pass rush and threw up a jump ball to Mike Evans who would beat the double team and come down with it.

@@Zerox_Prime Mahomes is a generational talent with a cannon arm and ideal mentality. It's no comparison. Not to mention he's got a top notch set of skill players and a top tier hc.

@@Zerox_Prime Patrick Mahomes can actually throw unlike Kimmy Manziel😂

He sure did but he didnt want it. Has all the money he needs so didnt care, crazy I know but.....In the end, its his life.

He was never going to do good in the NFL regardless

He was born wealthy. I don't think he really cared. He didn't prioritize football.

@@dos_gringos9853 cap he was already improving in 2015

@@Fuego_gringo254 but he didn't improve enough.

Well, he could always try celebrity boxing. The Paul Brothers might consider it.

@@edwardgaines6561 that would be the funniest thing in the world 😂😂😂

Well he did walk away with 8 million.......so.....

He was at a bar

He didn’t have the mental maturity to be a pro

He was unmedicated bipolar, with a substance addiction issue. No way he could succeed without long term therapy and medication monitoring.

@@Pdmc-vu5gj I didn't know about the mental condition. If that's the case, in combination with the addiction yeah it is really no wonder things ended up this way

Even if he was a saint and studied and worked hard, he didn’t have the frame to play to be a franchise qb. We should appreciate his college career and not hold his pro career against him, only a select few become franchise qb’s

@@dr.reviewsfrompersonalexpe7603 we'll never know if he could. He let the fame & money get to his head. Tom brady was doubted to.

@@dr.reviewsfrompersonalexpe7603 That's speculative. Are Drew Brees and Russell Wilson still too small for the league?

I remember that play…

1 td in the Bama game. he almost got stopped running, but he fumbled the ball after first contact, ball went backwards he catched in the air and was able to complete a pass in the middle.

Yes he was.

I know I wasn't surprised

If he had studied and focused on his athleticism, in the CFL he could've been special too. He just never tried from what i watched and observed. He was a beauty in NCAAF, and that's it. But when he was at his peak, he was a mobile scrambler and huge bomb passes as I recall too. CFL in the 1990's with Garcia and Flutie, (as well as others who never played NFL) that era of football was really tight. If Manziel was a Calgary Stampeder instead, then he maybe would've succeeded up here.

I never thought he would dominate when he played up north since he still partied.

​@@cgasucksexactly. His lifestyle never changed.

@@derekknight9789Yep, his game was built for the CFL

He has bipolar disorder

Dude, Manziel threw for 1,500 yards with 7 touchdowns in 2015. I don't know, sounds pretty solid to me, but what do I know.

@@beckydoesit9331 he was a royal fuckup. Those aren't solid numbers when you include the 5 interceptions he threw and his 56% completion percentage. He partied instead of practiced. He beat up his gf. He was just a flat out embarrassment.

Montreal alouettes fan here we wasted everything for johnny football

@@STEPOFFBITCHH Please refer to Ezekiel 23:20. And through this thou shall know me.

@@beckydoesit9331 did you read your bible ?

He loved football but quickly fell in love with what football gave him. As we can see now he loves the party scene more than football.

No situation in the world can fix someone who's simply a locker room cancer, and just doesn't want to be coached.

@@dickbuttkiss6002 I think if he would have gone to somewhere like Baltimore or Green Bay, not exactly those two, but organizations like that. Stable organizations. He would have been humbled and disciplined.

Wouldn’t have mattered, he’s just a knucklehead

The biggest problem with that is sometimes you can't help people even if you have that. If Manziel did go to an organization like that, he would have been thrown out sooner. The only reason Cleveland gave him so many chances was because they didn't have an organization that would say, "either straighten up or we'll find someone else."

A “stable organization” wouldn’t have drafted him or would have cut him after his rookie year if they did. He only got all the chances he did because of the desperaty of Cleveland’s owner to sell jerseys over fielding a winning team.

Gronkowski was the same way but somehow made it work. I guess that's where the term, functioning alcoholic comes from

You can't take away his accomplishments on the collegiate level.

Saying your sorry with no intentions of changing isnt really admirable. Thats his life. Thats why he is what he is.

@@tdozzy991 ... you're* sorry ...

@@einundsiebenziger5488 thank English nazi

@@einundsiebenziger5488 damn grammar Nazis are even in the football clips. What could be more inappropriate.

As a University of Wisconsin alum it killed me seeing Joe Thomas in that pathetic organization. His talent and career were wasted.

💯 agree. Love Joe Thomas.

@@pixurguy4915 I agree, but... as. A life-long Browns fan. Thomas was the only shining light for most of those 12 years. He's got a special place in Browns' fans hearts.

No matter what team you root for, Joe Thomas and Joe Staley are two of the most beloved offensive linemen of the modern NFL. Absolute great guys and class acts.

Joe Thomas was a god tier tackle.

Would you rather have Ryan Leaf or Peyton Manning on your team? It's Ryan. People really overlooked Ryan, but Ryan was such a better athlete than Manning, there's no comparison. And Manziel? Dude, Manzeil was twice as talented as Manning and Leaf put together. There is no debate on this.

@@beckydoesit9331 right lol

@@beckydoesit9331 you need to adjust the dosage on your pills. They're not working.

@@beckydoesit9331 I pick Manning, any day of the week over either of them--and many others.

@@beckydoesit9331 Johnny got thrown out of the NFL and CFL and even the Manning's Passing Academy. He was a good college player for maybe two years. He was unwilling or unable to do the work to make it in the pros. He reached his talent level and was unwilling to do any work to improve. He became a loser and has yet to do anything to change that.

Lmao

Did you just quote Drake like he's relevant in any way in terms of wisdom?

@@TommyFunderburk803 guess u don't understand sarcastic humor....moron

Yeah, him sending a text saying, “Let’s wreck this league.” … he was in way over his head, that’s an understatement

His head wasn't right but the factor he couldn't change was his style of play that could NOT translate to the NFL. You simply cannot scramble for 20 seconds in the backfield bc you're not faster than NFL defenders. His game style and instincts were wrecked game 1.

Wow, you’re a real oracle. You should be an advisor to the king of England or something

@@wolvesetc Wow, you’re a real douchebag, you should be a Texas Senator or something.

@@fairtaxhtown he also probably wasn’t going to end up on a team with such a dominant O-line either, which imo, was probably a bigger factor to his success than anything Manziel himself ever did

very true

Watching tape on Evans to evaluate him was what tipped me off to Manziel for sure being a bust. Evans bailed him out so often, and I saw a lot of really bad mistakes from Johnny. Between that tape and his other struggles it should have been really obvious

Evans made him, 100%

@@JoycenatorGaming lol this guy. Okay 👌 scout boy lmao

@@moneyonfleek305 ?

He did manage to make Merril Hoge look brilliant though. Not gonna say he made Skip Bayless look like an idiot, Bayless gets the credit for that.

Romo, Favre, Elway etc still had great careers playing off of improvised plays. Manzel just didn't have the mindset.

Yes he’s a buster

Straight up bust

Biggest bust ever?

Ryan leaf would like a word

No. It's his own fault. His parents didn't get kicked out the league in two years. And parents wasn't on TMZ every other day for the wrong reasons

But why would you feel bad about someone who didn’t take his career seriously and just kept partying?

Yea I never of heard of this before

out of everything thats when you stopped.... lmao

@mike vasovski U think that make it ok to punch females lol

@@xxtooshiestyxx8756 If a female is trying to hit me you bet your ass Ima lay her out.

I remember being soooo fucken mad that my browns did draft him, got alot of grief from browns fans in ctown but I knew he was just a punk.

Not only that but you guys got Zack Martin so huge Dub for the Cowboys

Fr I remember that 😅

Yeah thank god. Cuz yall so good now 💀

Proof fans need to chill 99% of the time

True. Funny, as I watched this initially, Manziel's play actually foreshadowed Kyler Murray, Baker Mayfield, and Lamar Jackson. The photo of Manziel and Lamar Jackson is interesting. In spite of being taller, faster and just better than Manziel, Lamar Jackson has received much more scrutiny with little reason.

You gotta admit what he did in college was special.

@@CodeineAbdulJabbar honestly thats what makes me so angry is we had so much of him in college left to watch

And never beat Alabama again

What happened the next season everyone started to figure him out

@@jeremyjames3633 came out after his sophomore season he had 2 more years to develop into a better passer

*given

Agree!!

What he needed was a real father, or at least one role model, in his life. Both his father and grandfather were man-children, and that’s all Johnny had for an example. He also needed to control his anger, something his father never managed to control within himself.

@@Johnsmith99663 why are you saying his father was a man-child? I don't know anything about him but what I saw in the Netflix doc. He SEEMED like a no nonsense type of guy.

Nice pfp

Profile pic

They couldn’t even answer the question in this video. They said nobody really knows.

The first episode will be about Tom Brady...😫

Not sure, considering their last 10 years, that it would have made a difference with the Cowboys.... Butthurt tears @ 5,4,3,2.....

@@moebetta4224 butthurt for wat ur just stating facts lol 🤨🤨 but anyways at one point we did have one of the best O lines in the league with Zack, Tyron, & Travis especially when all three were fully healthy. I mean when Demarco had that one great year with Dallas or Zeke in 16’. It was due to all three of those guys playin at a all pro level. Plus it doesn’t hurt to have not one… not two but three Pro Bowl O linemen. But you right tho they haven’t done shit for the last 10 years despite at one time having three great O lineman.

@@Scuba_steve0487 most of the cowboys short comings have came from injury or bad coaching. Rn we're playing the best we've played in a long time

@@villian99918 YUP! and with Zack Martin back on that line and doing his usual dominance at RG im just thankful they selected him and not Johnny

Exactly. Having NFL caliber Wars helped too.

Mike Evans was the reason he had that great season

I saw some games and was never impressed. The fact that the Browns ended up drafting him...the franchise with THE WORST QB evaluation in the NFL...kinda put a cap on it. Like, ok, he's not an NFL QB.

Saying that "demons jumped on him" is a poor way to express it. It makes it sound like poor little Johnny wasn't responsible for hi actions. "Demons" weren't the problem. Manziel was the problem.

u lyin nigga

Haha true. Im not an Aggie fan at all, but one thing I'll always respect him for is alot people forgot this was A&M's first season in the SEC. It's not like for the past 15 years the Aggies were dominanting the Big 12 lol, they were the Longhorns doormat. So no one gave them a chance in the SEC, but Manziel and Mike Evans were the best players you could have for that 1st season!

@@billblaski9523 Mike was decent that first year, but his second year was unreal. Especially in the Alabama game at College Station. They lost, but I think he had damn near 400 yards receiving.

Aspergers accounts for the douchebag part.

@@billblaski9523 we weren't the longhorns doormat in the big 12 fam

@Barney Stinson oh I apologize, y'all were Texas Tech's doormat.....lol nah im messing with you kinfolk, mean no disrespect, all just fun

Hot women, and Male Athletes.

Guys like Tom Brady and Peyton Manning weren’t the most gifted athletically but put the work in to be great.

❤️

I think he had what it takes to oaky in the nfl he just didn’t care to practice or prepare lol. He wanted to party