How Europe lost its tech companies

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Where did all the tech companies go? Nokia, Philips, Alcatel and the others? (The Story Behind Ep. 24)
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@TechAltar
@TechAltar 6 років тому
Here is the poll I promised: twitter.com/TechAltar/status/937639966074687488
@hyperionic1044
@hyperionic1044 6 років тому
great vid mate
@TechAltar
@TechAltar 6 років тому
Glad you liked it!
@ojaschahal1599
@ojaschahal1599 6 років тому
TechAltar plz do a analysis of India technology ecosystem too, for example high-speed internet with very cheap rates that have been brought up by JIO,huge investment by Xiaomi, Samsung and obviously by Google and the recent push of 5 billion dollar by Amazon.Even for One plus India is a very huge and important market as as shown by there huge sales.Also Indian tech companies like Flipkart which is fighting Amazon,Ola which is fighting Uber. And so many tech cities like Bangalore, Hyderabad, Chennai etc. What is your opinion in this whole big mess of investment and competition between American, Chinese and Indian companies??
@bi1516
@bi1516 6 років тому
Look at Allview
@MrPaukann
@MrPaukann 6 років тому
Why did you forget about Russia? It has a lot of successful Russian companies. They are not global, but they dominate Russian market. Chinese software is also only popular in China, but you mentioned it. There are some globally successful too, like Kaspersky.
@kamillenica3081
@kamillenica3081 6 років тому
One more thing Siemens, Ericsson, Nokia NSN, Alcatel etc. Are doing well, but its is not in consumer electronics, but backbone for mobile operator, medical equipment, aviation, military, PLC systems etc. Europe shifted its business orientation towards building solutions and services for companies instead of end users
@yunchenwang4075
@yunchenwang4075 6 років тому
Kamil Lenica others I don't know, but Ericsson is now surviving at patents. You could use some some fact check instead of "feel-like" statements
@dstblj5222
@dstblj5222 6 років тому
yes rnd is a fair way to control a market
@pavelp80
@pavelp80 6 років тому
As far I know, backbone for mobile operators is Huawei in Czech Republic for quite a long time (before brand was well known for making phones).
@nepalihercules
@nepalihercules 6 років тому
those companies can be replaced easily but you can't replace companies like google and microsoft. companies like nokia and ericsson are living off of past glory, their patents are getting old and they're not producing new ones like they used to. nokia at one point had more marketshare than samsung and apple combined.
@Sekeletu
@Sekeletu 6 років тому
Yup, whole industry automation sits on European products and solutions. Consumer products are only the very end of technology, let's not forget about that. All those consumer products are made on machines with Siemens, Festo, Rexroth, Schneider, IGUS, KUKA, ABB components. The only competition may be from Japanese companies mainly in robotics.
@Thytos
@Thytos 6 років тому
Also, Americans seem to have a more consumerist culture. I'm working at a tech start-up in Berlin and yet our focus is the US market as we're making most of our money there
@MauriceGucci
@MauriceGucci 5 років тому
@Tactical Exosuit *debt
@drmegaman
@drmegaman 5 років тому
It's true, credit card debt in the US & Canada is through the roof. And if you don't have that, you probably have student loan debt. Even I've never owned a credit card in my life and I've still been paying college debt for years.
@gavincurtis
@gavincurtis 5 років тому
Consumerism is like retirement. The next stage is death. Once a nation loses its ability to produce, stick a fork in it.
@drmegaman
@drmegaman 5 років тому
The Dollar Guy I've seen you around on other videos, you're one of my favorite commenters 👍
@gavincurtis
@gavincurtis 5 років тому
Thanks Dr Megaman. I remember you as well. Google is wanting to employ the same trust counter mechanism they have in China here in the USA. Alex Jones exposed this, so they canned his ass and blamed some school shooting crap that passed years ago. Apple now admits they have this counter, but use it only for internal purposes. Yeah..... I bet. The trust counter determines if you are a "good citizen" by analyzing websites visited, email data and purchases made. If your counter is too high, then officials will arrive to assist you in exhibiting proper behavior. Biggest brother nightmare situation developing right before our eyes. China is poised to be the new world superpower and the Silicon Valley Socialist Sellouts are all on board. You cannot buy or sell without the Mark of the Beast.
@speakenglishsecrets7323
@speakenglishsecrets7323 3 роки тому
I've been living in Italy for the last 6 years as a freelance English Coach. Taxes here are no joke. Looking to leave soon unfortunately. It's better to be an employee here compared to being self-employed or a small business. It is sad to see.
@thivyaprasad1414
@thivyaprasad1414 3 роки тому
You are as dumb as language teachers are 😂😂
@nothing9220
@nothing9220 3 роки тому
You teach English... Ummm Either my English is bad or yours
@CoolMan-ig1ol
@CoolMan-ig1ol 2 роки тому
Seriously, Taxes and Government regulations are irritating. You are not allowed to experiment with many new Ideas for the European market. You have millions of regulations and dumb taxes that doesn't make sense.
@tonnieuwenhuizen5710
@tonnieuwenhuizen5710 2 роки тому
@@pearlharbor7989 9
@khoirulanam9141
@khoirulanam9141 Рік тому
The only way by which you can effectively redistribute wealth, is by destroying the incentives to have wealth. and if there is no incentive to have wealth, say goodbye to innovation, productivity, progress and welcome to Dark Ages 2.0.
@Yersinia
@Yersinia 5 років тому
Wow you are Hungarian! I wouldn't tell your pronunciation is great. Greetings from Slovak brother :3
@Emanuel-E
@Emanuel-E 3 роки тому
Greetings from Romania my EU brothers
@vere9652
@vere9652 3 роки тому
Greatings from czech republic my eu brothers :)
@UnknownSend3r
@UnknownSend3r 2 роки тому
Greetings from England my E...arth brothers ?
@cristianlaspina658
@cristianlaspina658 6 років тому
This video and the analysis you've made were great. I'm Italian and we have ZERO general tech companies here. The only tech companies here are the ones that belongs to the application layer. They develop basic website, blogs, mobile apps and they're quite similar between each other. They struggle to spread their services across the entire country and they grow or die in the same city they started.
@rahuldhakne8577
@rahuldhakne8577 6 років тому
Mama mia
@ingframin
@ingframin 6 років тому
FIAT-FCA? ST Microelectronics? ENEL (One of the biggest energy companies in the world...)? ENI? Piaggio (who builds engines and parts for aviation and space...) not to speak about many many others... The problem in Italy is that the money ends up in accounts in Lichtenstein, Belize and so on... Maybe if we avoid electing Berlusconi next time we still have some hope for a better future
@fromfareast3070
@fromfareast3070 Рік тому
@@ingframin ST Microelectronics headquarter is in Switzerland and Amsterdam.
@kaustubh_kp
@kaustubh_kp 6 років тому
Irony is that Europe have unlimited Internet connection to end users, no data caps.
@maxpayne438
@maxpayne438 6 років тому
this is it lies, you have traffic shaping..
@dar0971
@dar0971 6 років тому
Lol ur profile picture is cancer
@seraphina985
@seraphina985 6 років тому
+this is it Benefit of having the top three ranked internet exchange points on Earth so much for having no infrastructure I guess huh? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Internet_exchange_points_by_size the European tendency to open internet exchanges which draw huge numbers of providers together proved to be a better strategy by far than the carrier owned exchange points in the US.
@kaustubh_kp
@kaustubh_kp 6 років тому
dar0 thoes are nvidia titen xp star wars edition
@TheBigLucian
@TheBigLucian 6 років тому
In Romania we have 4g internet speed in almost every city...
@montz1757
@montz1757 6 років тому
I love how everyone doesn't seem know the difference between consumer tech and industry tech. No, the EU is not doomed, still making long lasting tech for enterprises all over the world... You get your phone from china, sure, but the machine that helped build that phone didn't come from china.
@Lyle-xc9pg
@Lyle-xc9pg 5 років тому
Do you not know the difference between the eu an Europe? fucking idiot
@bangtuhauptilagie4866
@bangtuhauptilagie4866 5 років тому
europe IS doomed. right now it has the know how. that's literally the only thing europe has. if asia catches up europe will be insignificant. europe was way too wealthy in the last few decades by profiting from underdeveloped countries and it still does it. it will all fall apart in the next few decades.
@HusseinDoha
@HusseinDoha 5 років тому
@shurednichso South Korea is not socialist at all and China have left the commie Socialist club at the beginning of 1990s. China just have an authoritarian government but nearly all means of production in Korea and most of it in China belongs to people/ businesses and not the government.
@HusseinDoha
@HusseinDoha 5 років тому
@@nicktaylor5264 How is capitalism is fucked when you are using its products and services to bash it?🤣 Do you even know the difference between "free market" and Capitalism. The latter just means that the means of production is left to people. If you have a land or oven , these are means of production (cuz you can make grain and bread). If government leave it to people and those who pgain from making these products can keep the proceeds. Then that is capitalism. Free market is a bit confused. Its place where people can but and sell the products and services they produced. We have regulated markets but not free from safety regulations. However it's understood today that it links to capitalism by letting people produce what they market wants, at the quantity the market needs and the prices it can bear. Now the commentator you were responding to is a nuts. He should explain and not insult. Thanks for reading.
@xornxenophon3652
@xornxenophon3652 5 років тому
# @Heather Larson: Well, if China gets ahead in technology, Europe can at least become a tourist location for chinese tourists interested in ancient temples or medieval castles. The US however will not have that option, as there are hardly any buildings older than 150 years. Just saying...
@rabitec.
@rabitec. 4 роки тому
I remember 10 Years ago, when we still had a Grundig CRT TV
@frikkyspams
@frikkyspams 3 роки тому
Same
@jazsteevionbenson6144
@jazsteevionbenson6144 6 років тому
I didn't know Alcatel is a French brand. Always thought it was some Chinese brand.
@TechAltar
@TechAltar 6 років тому
It was originally a French brand that had 2 businesses: phones and network equipment. The smartphone brand was sold to TCL, a Chinese company, and the network equipment business was sold to Nokia.
@jazsteevionbenson6144
@jazsteevionbenson6144 6 років тому
Thank you very much for the reply!! I think you're the first UKpostsr to reply to my comment (not that I comment that much anyway). Keep doing your videos. I love it!
@abseiduk
@abseiduk 6 років тому
I have a alcatel pad and its quite good,
@redhammer92
@redhammer92 6 років тому
Alcatel makes some of the worst phones i have ever used.
@anticeon
@anticeon 6 років тому
lmao truth .... alcatel is selling rebranded chinese sht
@oditeomnes
@oditeomnes 6 років тому
Because Europe is too busy with heavy industry tech instead of consumer tech. Industrial and engineering(Siemens, Bosh, ABB, Schneider Electric) Automotive (Daimler, VAG, Exor), Chemical (BASF), Aerospace (Airbus), Defence (BAE). Information/consumer technology is not the only technology.
@francescomartella144
@francescomartella144 6 років тому
You mean Germany not Europe
@alfrednowak4889
@alfrednowak4889 6 років тому
ABB, Schneider, Exor, BAE aren't German companies, Airbus is only partially German.
@MrWhite-pn7ui
@MrWhite-pn7ui 6 років тому
So what? America has plenty of industrial and engineering firms (General Electric, AECOM, Catepillar) Automotive (Tesla, GM, Ford), Chemical (DowDuPont), Aerospace (Boeing), Defense (Lockheed Martin, Northrup Grumman, Raytheon, General Dynamics)
@MagnusFriberg
@MagnusFriberg 6 років тому
oditeomnes Don't forget about Electrolux. Oh and 40% of all mobile traffic runs through a Ericsson network.
@MrWhite-pn7ui
@MrWhite-pn7ui 6 років тому
+Magnus Friberg Electrolux is ranked third behind American appliance manufacturer Whirlpool and Chinese company Haier. American Cisco Systems is the largest networking company in the world.
@pb25193
@pb25193 2 роки тому
The dedication of this man towards his analysis is incredible
@MartinKarim
@MartinKarim 3 роки тому
The Opera browser is made by a Norwegian company. It was acquired by a Chinese company, but they still have headquarters in Norway.
@Xanto04
@Xanto04 6 років тому
You should really call this video "how Europe lost its consumer tech companies"... If you have a look at industrial tech there are so many companies in Europe with world leading technology.
@PSspecialist
@PSspecialist 4 роки тому
@ZEPHER070 He talked about INDUSTRIAL tech and your mind is still focused on shit individuals buy. Are you sure you're not the one who's affected by incest? God I envy the unearned confidence of morons like you. Absolutely brain dead yet so sure of yourself.
@nehcooahnait7827
@nehcooahnait7827 3 роки тому
You know in the Netherlands the heavy machineries they use to produce large cargo ships are designed and produced by Chinese SOEs...
@hohowtf
@hohowtf 6 років тому
Logitech is Swiss. They have a good market share in computer peripherals. There are also pro-sumer and industrial brands like Hasselblad, Leica, Broncolor, CEDES, ST Microelectronics.
@Gundesalf
@Gundesalf 6 років тому
I love my Logitech thumb-driven trackball. I've used one since they first made them back in the 90's. The only reason to replace them (Other than theft or massive damage) is because technology on connectivity leaves them behind (like, no PS2 connectors available anymore). They are durable and perform better than any mouse.
@KJ110813
@KJ110813 6 років тому
Heimrich Gundesalf I'd love my trackball even more if the clickers didn't stick. :/
@anticeon
@anticeon 6 років тому
Logitech product are made in China tho, even i doubt their R&D team in europe.
@rippspeck
@rippspeck 6 років тому
Most tech is made in China, the same city even. All major companies produce their devices in Asia.
@Growthunlimited
@Growthunlimited 6 років тому
The video mentioned that Europe is good in speciality. Logitech and the likes are specialized in a specific area.
@Noise-Bomb
@Noise-Bomb 5 років тому
Your right when it comes to the consumer electronics side of things. But there are many Branches where Europe has a few very big fish. You get companies like Bosch, Airbus, Siemens and of course the big automotive companies and every major contractor of them. On the other side you have major pharma companies like Bayer or Novartis or huge chemical companies like BASF or Henkel.
@alesh2275
@alesh2275 5 років тому
Your analysis is valid for Japan as well.
@philmalatino8230
@philmalatino8230 6 років тому
At least we finally have an awesome European tech reviewer on UKposts. Your videos are always interesting and well crafted. Thank you for your work
@xpforevergaming8609
@xpforevergaming8609 6 років тому
That's true. Also the fact, that he is hungarian makes me even more happy (I'm hungarian too).
@tamaspacso9899
@tamaspacso9899 6 років тому
Így így...
@PriyavratGupta
@PriyavratGupta 6 років тому
You should post more often. Your content is the best available
@dejanstevanovic3660
@dejanstevanovic3660 6 років тому
So thrue.
@raphaelkhoury218
@raphaelkhoury218 6 років тому
Priyavrat Gupta yeah!😍😍😍😍😉
@christoph_fer
@christoph_fer 6 років тому
He cherry picks the topics that he works on. And he spends quality time in research. So this pace is fine.
@seppotaalasmaa7504
@seppotaalasmaa7504 6 років тому
Christopher Fernandes Agree. Its more valuable this way.
@fixieyea
@fixieyea 4 роки тому
your videos are amazing! Thank you for this.
@superchaz71
@superchaz71 5 років тому
Thank you. Very informative. Question: What industries ARE being enthusiastically embraced and adopted in Europe, as far as your research shows?
@Hessengor
@Hessengor 2 роки тому
Everything that is related to climate change and green energy.
@uzernaim1648
@uzernaim1648 6 років тому
The european audio manafacturers absolutely dominate in terms of sound quality
@MrPaukann
@MrPaukann 6 років тому
Uzer Naim the same for cameras.
@domi4307
@domi4307 6 років тому
i own quite a pricey sennheiser headphone and damn its good.. off topic comment: cars are dominated by Germany (im not german)
@manueltricarico7625
@manueltricarico7625 6 років тому
Domi 430 in the car sector we have a lot of giants.
@isaacvanlalruata139
@isaacvanlalruata139 6 років тому
I really like sennheizer products
@pranaym3859
@pranaym3859 6 років тому
Uzer Naim Yep, Europeans make best audio systems in the world Sennheiser, B&O, Burmester, B&W and many more
@peterfaber9316
@peterfaber9316 6 років тому
A lot of tec companies in europe are invisible. Not in the end user segment.
@aryanchaurasia1084
@aryanchaurasia1084 5 років тому
Summary: In Europe the laws are pro-consumer. In USA/China it's pro-company. All the other reasons he came up is derived from that. E.g. there is no Silicon Valley/Shenzhen equivalent area in Europe. Successful European companies are bought by non-European companies. And this is mirrored in the population's happiness. Due to Europe being pro-consumer, representing the interest of the population, etc. the population are much happier than USA/China at the expense of tech **companies** going elsewhere since there are less regulation that are anti-consumer or harm the environment. Furthermore they pay less tax so they are contributing less to society (infrastructure, etc cost money). This is exactly why companies are successful in China and USA but have worse quality of life. At the end of the day what is more important. Money or quality of life? You can buy quality of life with money but that makes only you happy. This furthers the gap between the extreme poor and the extreme rich - which is again something you see more in USA and China than in Europe.
@DrTheRich
@DrTheRich 5 років тому
If you just talk about consumer product suppliers yes. But for actually industry Europe is a very attractive, company friendly and successful place.
@deprogramm
@deprogramm 5 років тому
the fuck are you talking about europe has the highest rate of anti-depressant usage and suicide.
@kebeiwjwgseywgw5590
@kebeiwjwgseywgw5590 5 років тому
@@deprogramm no?
@ELEKTRONIKFUN
@ELEKTRONIKFUN 5 років тому
@@deprogramm when you would do research, you would know that the most depressed people life in the USA, China and India Here if you wanna know why www.usnews.com/news/best-countries/articles/2018-07-02/why-are-suicide-rates-rising-in-the-us-while-falling-in-most-of-europe
@Arigator2
@Arigator2 5 років тому
How do you know the population is happier in Europe? I think you've been swallowing a bunch of propaganda. Nobody has ever asked people 'how happy are you?' and compared them between Europe and America. I've seen 'happiness index' and its full of bias and assumptions to say the least. North Koreans who defect to South Korea say that people in North Korea are very happy. They are worked like dogs and told lies and propaganda but that doesn't stop them from being happy. So to say that people in Europe are happier is an all around nonsensical statement.
@ahoraya1047
@ahoraya1047 5 років тому
SAP is a big European company, first in business software, with over $ 25 bn. revenues.
@simonescelsa
@simonescelsa 4 роки тому
Sap products really suck from an end user prospective
@designthinkingwithgian
@designthinkingwithgian 4 роки тому
(some) of their software is garbage
@rutrwer8220
@rutrwer8220 4 роки тому
sap are u kidding me XD they fing struggle right now cause there is freeway competition right now
@ladislavzima8382
@ladislavzima8382 4 роки тому
It's said when a company survives implementing SAP, it survives everything.
@zekekace6882
@zekekace6882 4 роки тому
SAP is done by Indian consultancies like wipro or tcs
@leo.maglanoc
@leo.maglanoc 6 років тому
it's true that there is a tech deficit in europe but for example in business software SAP, a german company, has the biggest marketshare in enterprise software distribution and is a global player. "As of 2016, SAP is the world's third largest software and programming company" [quote: wikipedia SAP SE]
@dhruviin
@dhruviin 6 років тому
Yellow Gaming exactly.
@veles1415
@veles1415 6 років тому
Your videos are incredible. I haven't seen someone go so much in depth when discussing a topic. Your videos are well researched, and well produced.. Really loving the channel
@zoltanszatmary5552
@zoltanszatmary5552 5 років тому
Szia! Egy pár hónapja találtam rád, és azóta nézlek + csodálom, hogy van a UKposts-on minőségi kontent is. És csak most döbbentem rá, hogy magyar vagy. ;-) Jók a videóid!
@hojomo
@hojomo 5 років тому
Can we have an update please? I don't see much having changed yet. We have Qwant + Protonmail, but still nothing BIG?
@leowong8777
@leowong8777 6 років тому
I have a topic for a new episode for "Calm Before The Storm" and it is the blockchain technology(The technology used in most cryptocurrencies, but can be also used in security or surveillance systems). I would like to see if the technology will proceed to grow or be forgotten in a couple of years.
@harsh.thakkar
@harsh.thakkar 6 років тому
POINTLESS GUY both equally likely,if they become highly regulated they might lose significance
@leowong8777
@leowong8777 6 років тому
Does anyone from Google still care about youtube or is an autistic dog doing design for youtube now? I know that, but I want to know how the technology behind cryptocurrencies(the blockchain technology) will mature.
@TarekMidani
@TarekMidani 6 років тому
You hit the nail on the head when you mentioned the ability to "hire and fire" easily. This one feel-good regulation has so many bad unseen effects on a large economy. Imagine you're a startup and you made a mistake by hiring the wrong employee in France, you're basically screwed, and other companies who see this will start hiring less because of the heavy consequences that come with it
@charleskuhn382
@charleskuhn382 6 років тому
Tarek Midani it depends on the country. It's pretty easy to fire someone in the nordics or in the UK
@cube_2593
@cube_2593 6 років тому
yeah but it sucks for the people, do u want to get fired instandly? this law is the reason why there is so little poverty in germany in comparison to chins and usa
@MagnusAnand
@MagnusAnand 4 роки тому
Excellent video. Your points are quite accurate I think
@syferpolski4344
@syferpolski4344 6 років тому
In the Platforms space you missed a few crucial European ones: Ubuntu, by Canonical(UK) and openSuse/SLES by SUSE(Germany). 2/3 major Linux platforms are owned by EU companies.
@T0ghar
@T0ghar 6 років тому
Regarding End-User Apps: Ubisoft is French, Codemasters is British, THQ Nordic is Austrian and then there are still the smaller Funcom, Techland, Crytek and many more. So regarding video games and sales numbers, european developers and publishers still matter a lot. Regarding hardware, Siemens and Bosch are still producing a lot of household tech.
@masterofthefirstraceoftheu8608
@masterofthefirstraceoftheu8608 6 років тому
T0ghar I rather buy games from Ubisoft than EA OR Activision. That's for sure.
@topdog6843
@topdog6843 6 років тому
Havok (the physics engine most games use) is also from Europe (Ireland)
@Microphunktv-jb3kj
@Microphunktv-jb3kj 6 років тому
Siemens just moved away from mobiles.. into way larger industries... I don't get why ignorant people talk about topics they don't know... mobile phones were like a pet project to siemens. Or do average people think telecommunications only means mobile phones? Rofl... i give up on humanity...
@miroslavpavlov8131
@miroslavpavlov8131 6 років тому
Yes, and industry power is one of their highlights - as far as I know(not from personal experience) on the main building of Siemens there is a sign that goes like "The safety if your entire system is only as reliable as your power supply" xD As far as I've seen there hasn't bin a better company than Siemens(and even they screw up from time to time ^_^ )
@joe3k907
@joe3k907 6 років тому
Also CCP( EVE Online) Iceland , regarding games
@paullangford8179
@paullangford8179 6 років тому
What you have left out is that most of the high-tech manufacturing equipment comes from Europe. Especially, China would grind to a halt without equipment from Germany, France and the U.K.
@kemi9403
@kemi9403 6 років тому
Paul Langford What the fuck are you saying!!! M8 that's not a good thing. It's like the Arabs that sell their cotton to Europe so that they get sold their cotton back but as cloths for over triple the price. The right thing to do would have to be using the equipment that they manufacture to actually make their own products.
@IIAndersII
@IIAndersII 6 років тому
The Kemitian You are incorrect. Production equipment has to be of the highest quality and is very hard to produce and is therefore very expensive. This is a lot better than producing consumer products with low quality and therefore a low price.
@adamosmaki
@adamosmaki 6 років тому
Let alone car industry , aviation etc. Companies like VW and airbus are huge.
@Raiyan678
@Raiyan678 6 років тому
You logic could go both way, what would those manufacturing companies do without buyers like China. So it's true that without the manufacturing equipment from Europe, China/Asia will grind to a standstill, its also true that without Asian buyers, Europes economy would crash on varying magnitude. It's a ecosystem. Not exactly a leverage. And on top, that has nothing to do with the point of the video. It's about Teach companies which now a days implies computer technology. So although Airbus and Automobile manufacturers can be considered "tech" companies, they weren't considered here.
@vegass04
@vegass04 6 років тому
Exactly. I would rather have VW, Mercedes, Renault, BMW or Airbus that employ hundreds of thousands of people then a fucking startup company that's worth billions of $ 3 weeks after it was concieved and has 100 employees. Fuck that. VW has more employees and feds more families then all the tech giants combined.
@anandbambhania7313
@anandbambhania7313 4 роки тому
Great video! For me most shocking was Nokia's departure from Symbian. It was a great OS if only they could've adapted it for modern hardware instead of going for WP! Btw Finland still has Jolla's Sailfish in active development that's a positive I've heard Russian government has signed a deal with them.
@onurturemis3490
@onurturemis3490 5 років тому
well done with the.presentation. GJ.
@alexandrecarlier
@alexandrecarlier 6 років тому
You missed OVH which is a serious competitor in the cloud computing industry (no. 1 in Europe but it is lately getting into the US market too).
@BlunderCity
@BlunderCity 6 років тому
They're still small but on the other hand, expanding rapidly since they are not paying their shareholders. But the real reason why this company might become a giant is that its founder will likely never sell.
@MikeM-py2hq
@MikeM-py2hq 6 років тому
There is also ASML, which is home grown in Europe and dominates the global lithography market >67%. (Machines to make among others, processors.)
@aljaxus2190
@aljaxus2190 6 років тому
I was just going to comment that! I totally agree with you. Even tho it's getting more on Canada's market to be honest (if we also look at their child-companies, such as SoYouStart and KimSurfi). And tbh, when I will need an extra VPS I will rent it right there, not on some Amazon or anything like that, because I feel more secure with their infrastructure. And i don't really know what Amazon would do to my service if I would get a 12GB DDoS attack when having on their network :P I mean... They would probably just block the IP for some time.
@SuperSiggiboy
@SuperSiggiboy 6 років тому
All phones sold today have an ARM chip inside them, so they should really count here. ABB, Siemens, Bosch and the likes are also giant tech companies, not just consumer-focused. But keep in mind that it is often far more profitable to be a business that sells to other businesses, rather than directly to consumers. There's a huge amount of money in the European tech industry, but you have to dig for a while to find those companies, they're almost hiding from us consumers.
@BadlanderOutsider
@BadlanderOutsider 6 років тому
ARM was sold to Softbank last year, so while it's still based in Britain, expect asset stripping.
@risannd
@risannd 3 роки тому
And now it’s going to be sold to American Nvidia
@klaudelu18
@klaudelu18 2 роки тому
Szia, my Hungarian cousin! My name is Claude. I am a Romanian English teacher. This is the first video I see from you. I'm hooked. If you could, please, add your script in the description. Aside from watching your videos for myself, I would also like to use them as material for my English classes. Big fist bump if you could. Big fist bump either way for this cool video.
@-42-47
@-42-47 5 років тому
Great analysis! Though I think the picture would be a bit different if you expanded the scope to encompass more products. The European automobile industry has been very strong for a long time, not sure of the current situation with outsourcing of production but overall a big industry where Europe has been doing very well.
@mariolis
@mariolis 2 роки тому
But that is not the point of this video, sure , mechanical products and other old industries are alive and well in Europe The first car was built in the 1880s , and even though its much more evolved , the basic concept is still the same But all new tech fields , areas with a much more rapid rate of innovation, are nowhere to be seen in Europe
@neilmoulang90
@neilmoulang90 6 років тому
GTA was originally a Scottish game and even after it's acquisition by Rockstar inc. GTA V was developed completely by Rockstar North, a subdivision of Rockstar, who's headquarters are in Edinburgh. So GTA V was developed completely in Scotland
@theuglykwan
@theuglykwan 6 років тому
There used to be a golden age of british gaming developers.
@Tudorgeable
@Tudorgeable 6 років тому
+++Mafia 2k Czech, Romanian Silent Hunter series, most Ubisoft's talent is from Romania, Garry's mod, dota, cdprojektred
@Mooooov0815
@Mooooov0815 6 років тому
I only partially agree with you. There are indeed almost no big consumer level tech companies left in europe. And the explanation you gave seems fine. But I don't see the term "tech" limited to smartphone, computer etc.. Hardware is mainly built in china while most of our daily driver software is from the U.S. .But all of these consumer products wouldn't be anything without some european companies. I'm from Germany, as you probably know, the car industry is pretty strong here. There are dozenz of suppliers for big car manufacturers (BMW, Audi, Ford) developing technolgies to make cars work and improve their overall quality. BOSCH for example isn't only one of the biggest sensor suppliers for cars, they also build the majority of the sensors used in our smartphones. I guess you know how a smartphone without sensors would look like. Another example is Siemens. You said there are no "universal" tech companies. Siemens are building like everything reaching from medical technologies to transportation systems and power plants. And these arent small companies. Siemens for example empoys over 350k people and makes over 83. billion EUR in sales. So I think saying there are no tech companies left in europe is a matter of perspective. If you define "tech" as a term limited to smartphones and computer technolgy your pretty much right, but I personally think there is much more things to technology than just smartphones
@Sloppyjoey1
@Sloppyjoey1 6 років тому
He said in the video that he was generalizing. Also I don't think Germany serves as a good example for Europe because Germany clearly has better workers with better work ethic and any country in Europe. You have to understand that "Europe" includes France where they want tons of vacation time and tax the crap out of you. Europes "growth" years are behind them.
@einmuffin6063
@einmuffin6063 6 років тому
Joseph Harris Germany has strong Unions, 4 week holidays are common and Germany has according to some mesures the highest tax burden in the world
@hansdampf3468
@hansdampf3468 6 років тому
germany is a bit oustanding of all the european countries and you have to suggest that if you speak about europe. without germany's quality-work in machine-engeneering, a lot of companies in china or the usa wouldn't be where they are now. a missing logo of a german company doesn't mean there is no german work in it.
@Mooooov0815
@Mooooov0815 6 років тому
Yeah its true that the countries in the EU are really different. But I chose to use Germany as an example since I'm living in germany so I know more about the situation here.
@johnsonlong57
@johnsonlong57 6 років тому
MoVo1999 But how does that relate to the fact that Europe doesn't have any big Tech companies left? All you see are either US products or products from some Asian country. True, France Germany Sweden still have some "Mechanical Techs" left behind, but how about other stuff like AI and robotics? it's all offshored to US or Japanese companies..
@SkLLzDaTkLLs
@SkLLzDaTkLLs 5 років тому
very well presented video, great opinions. well done!
@pedramosanlou7728
@pedramosanlou7728 5 років тому
Extremely interesting point of view and analysis
@davidmin3583
@davidmin3583 6 років тому
10:17 You have put the reasons why I love living in Europe in a list - going to send this to friends to explain why I moved from Canada
@ChrisLi02
@ChrisLi02 6 років тому
German Cherry switches are pretty dominant in the keyboard market.
@HalloNewman
@HalloNewman 6 років тому
that will save the economy
@lodgin
@lodgin 6 років тому
"that will save the economy" Huh, TIL, the economy is in dire situations...
@arvidsalle2979
@arvidsalle2979 6 років тому
Excuse me but an extremely big percentage of keyboards are membrane.
@demianstohr2422
@demianstohr2422 6 років тому
Not just Cherry Bosch Sennheisser beQuiet! Metabo Adidas Puma And thats only Germany... Maybe not in Technology but in other things we are superior...
@bispaklee5519
@bispaklee5519 6 років тому
Europe has the best fashion tho
@saurabh55singh
@saurabh55singh 5 років тому
We love your videos please upload frequently
@grapy83
@grapy83 5 років тому
Once again, Great video. Thumbs up.
@Cpt.Zenobia
@Cpt.Zenobia 6 років тому
Siemens & Philips make medical equipment, power stations..etc what about automobile and aerospace industry? mining equipment? all of this is technology. there is a world other than consumer electronics and software that constitutes as tech.
@YuRaLL
@YuRaLL 6 років тому
don't forget ASML which basically makes all the chip manufacturing facilities for all mayor chip companies. we do have tech. it's just not consumer tech.
@LetsPKlays
@LetsPKlays 6 років тому
He also totally forgot SAP...
@Leo-ok5qi
@Leo-ok5qi 6 років тому
新一工藤 fuck you
@johnathankrausrig9237
@johnathankrausrig9237 6 років тому
its a pretty flat perspective that techaltar is having there. infrastructure is a big thing in europe, mobile carriers from europe provide across the world. Fuck SAP, only working technology counts
@rorygood9953
@rorygood9953 6 років тому
Or Irish companies like Johnson Controls and GlenDimplex
@jonathankrost8109
@jonathankrost8109 6 років тому
Thanks for the video. I have been asking myself the same question for quite some time. I work in the automotive industry where things seem to be a bit more optimistic. However, I feel that in any market where it is important to adapt quickly to new conditions Europe is falling behind. Lots of friends & relatives of mine, for instance, are quite busy blaming big companies for the injustice and inequality in the world instead of founding better companies.
@Lucas-yp6bm
@Lucas-yp6bm 3 роки тому
I don't know in the rest of Europe, but here in Spain, there's a City called Barcelona where almost all local the tech startups where created. For example: Wallapop; Glovo.
@apelsinuke
@apelsinuke 5 років тому
in Lithuania, I know at least two companies from the top of my head - Tauras for TVs/dipslays/monitors, and Snaige for refrigerators/freezers. I mean, we do have local companies, which don't do their business much outside of EU or even outside of the country. I'm sure other EU countries have tons of local manufacturers :) At least internet is fast, we don't have data limits from our wi-fi providers, and 4G internet for mobile devices is quite cheap and available almost everywhere (I noticed a couple of places deep within the forest we go to for picking berries switches my 4G to 3G). Don't know about USA, but in Japan I found it a bit tough with the internet, compared to my homeland. (upd: even in Japan they have 5G, wi-fi connection is not so fast, and mobile data plans - also wi-fi plans - cost lots of money - very expensive).
@lindafukuyu5767
@lindafukuyu5767 5 років тому
USA has been with Unlimited Data in the past 2 years now.
@tengygt7042
@tengygt7042 5 років тому
In Estonia literally the whole country is covered with 4G.
@TeddyKrimsony
@TeddyKrimsony 5 років тому
Tauras TVs and displays are utter garbage
@Fortzon
@Fortzon 6 років тому
If getting an European tech giant means wrecking our labor laws then I'm happy that we don't have giants.
@Fortzon
@Fortzon 6 років тому
I knew there was going to be at least one dumb comment. If you're really Japanese, have fun with your karoushi.
@Der.Preusse
@Der.Preusse 6 років тому
toaritok, I don't believe those are directly related. Yeah it might influence it but look at Germany for example. They have rather strict labour laws and are currently experiencing all-time low unemployment numbers.
@unknfelix
@unknfelix 6 років тому
Your shitty communist ideas will eventually turn your countries into third world countries.
@aeon9311
@aeon9311 6 років тому
That’s the typical beta mentality of Europeans, and he reason why Europe is dull and boring from an economic vantage point. You can’t achieve anything impressive without taking the risk and playing hard, even if playing hard entails running over the line between what’s moral and what’s immoral a few times. No wonder your best and brightest run to America as soon as they can. No one except a total sucker would stay and work for €4,000 a month when they could be making $250,000 a year in America.
@mormegil231
@mormegil231 6 років тому
You do realize that these countries (Greece, Spain and Italy) you have mentioned have worse labor protection and the more loose regulation than even the US right? The least unemployment you will find actually in countries with very strict labor laws. Germany, The Netherlands, Sweden and so on.
@THEWILLY417
@THEWILLY417 6 років тому
What about Avast and AVG? Both are Czech and have a big portion of the antivirus market.
@aeon9311
@aeon9311 6 років тому
Small companies like that don’t matter all that much. The biggest tech corporations in Europe can’t even compare with the biggest non-European ones. Neither AVG nor Avast bring in much revenue. They don’t even break a billion. Europe has plenty of companies like that, but they need a Facebook or an Apple. One company that’s worth more than each and every European tech company combined.
@dstblj5222
@dstblj5222 6 років тому
well at least in consumer focus tech yep, but behind the scenes there are some big players.
@user-ed2yh9kp7d
@user-ed2yh9kp7d 6 років тому
Avira and Kaspersky are also European. Looks like we Europeans take viruses really seriously.
@obelic71
@obelic71 5 років тому
Do not underestimate the fact that we in Europe don't love our engineers like they do in the USA or Azia. For example the engineers from MIT are more known then the engineers from TU Delft. The aproach to tech is also different we want good reliable stuff and want to pay for it. Therefore the customer protections laws are enhanced. Televisions, cars, computers, furniture our houses are beter build an much more expensive then in other parts of the world.
@Prophetli
@Prophetli 5 років тому
It's an interesting view. I was just surprised to to hear you talk about Logitech though. Didn't fit in your categories but that's just excluding it by choice. I'd rate it a tech company and it is pretty large.
@ashboon1625
@ashboon1625 6 років тому
When you mention Chinese tech companies, don't forget Korean (Samsung, LG) and Japanese (Panasonic, Toshiba) tech companies too..
@xealit
@xealit 6 років тому
And Taiwan HTC, TSMC. Not mentioning the Americans...
@andylin9899
@andylin9899 6 років тому
xealit Taiwan is a part of China,remember that.
@apachejim8308
@apachejim8308 6 років тому
taiwan is taiwan, what's wrong with you chinese people
@sebastianzhang4924
@sebastianzhang4924 6 років тому
Sch Ng You should remember the official name of Taiwan is Republic of China. You can say Taiwan is not part of PRC (I'm definately not a supporter for the communist party), but Taiwan is for sure part of China. By the way, are you Taiwanese?
@in4ser
@in4ser 6 років тому
Taiwan the name for the Island given by the Chinese Communist Party because it believe its Taiwan as in the Province of Taiwan. Calling it Taiwan's official name: "Republic of China" means there are two Chinas (Republic of China and People's Republic of China) and undermines the legitimacy of the its very rule which is why the CCP is trying to insist Tsai insist on the "One China Policy." Besides ROC is probably more Chinese than the PRC b/c its ethnically 95% Han Chinese while the PRC is only about 90% Han Chinese and it uses Traditional Chinese and Mandarin Chinese as part of its official language. Americans use "Taiwan" because Americans are stupid and suck at geography since most think Taiwanese people are from Thailand and despite coming from Taiwanese parents didn't even know Korean or Thais people exists as a separate ethnicity instead of being "Asian" until I was well into my teens. You can change your nationality but you can't change your blood and ancestry, that's why despite global reference of the Koreas as N. Korea or S. Korea when its Republic of Korea and Democratic People's Republic of Korea but they're still both Korean. If you believe Taiwan is a separate nation then "Taiwanese" is a nationality not an ethnicity (unless you are that less than 5% aboriginal native) and also why despite coming from parents (one from Taipei and other Kaohsiung) I'm not "Taiwanese" I'm ABC because while being ethnically Chinese I have no citizenship recognized in Taipei but instead in Washington D.C..
@Minato1337
@Minato1337 6 років тому
5 of those 9 tech startups, was founded in sweden. thats interesting
@Minato1337
@Minato1337 6 років тому
Also, out of europe's 10 fastest growing companies, 5 are swedish. I think Europes the technical edge is located in Sweden. After all, it might at least be a good place too look for ideas.
@customlegokarl
@customlegokarl 6 років тому
For small startups and big companies Sweden is okay but due to strikt Labour laws and high taxes once the small startups the are forced to leave Sweden to grow.
@Minato1337
@Minato1337 6 років тому
Yeah, as was the case for Soundcloud
@ogs_Boga1900
@ogs_Boga1900 6 років тому
Minato1337 swedes work lika a machine very hard working
@antonberglund117
@antonberglund117 6 років тому
What's the point? Skype was founded by a Swed atleast:).
@ketamu5946
@ketamu5946 5 років тому
Of the enduser apps you showed four were invented in europe. Minecraft-finnland, Spotify and soundcloud-sweden, Witcher3-poland
@daredariuz
@daredariuz 4 роки тому
Nice channel! hope it gets traction
@RenatoLaporte
@RenatoLaporte 6 років тому
Well, the market for hardware and services for end consumers is just too saturated and giants like Philips or Siemens couldn't keep their way of doing things, like manufacturing in Europe. But if you look outside the consumer bubble, well there are still huge European companies behind the scenes. Go to any hospital, and you'll see mostly devices from Siemens or Philips. Traveling in a modern high-speed train? Chances are that's it's European made. Ask your provider what company build and support their infrastructure, and you might see Ericsson or Nokia networks (old Nokia-Siemens and Alcatel-Lucent ).
@TechAltar
@TechAltar 6 років тому
Absolutely true! I looked into the consumer bubble precisely because that's where I see the deficit
@PtrkHrnk
@PtrkHrnk 6 років тому
In my country Nokia haven't made any big deal in years, not to speak of Ericsson. Most new network infrastructure if from Huawei, some from ZTE...
@MrPaukann
@MrPaukann 6 років тому
MikroTik is quite popular, at least in Russia.
@RenatoLaporte
@RenatoLaporte 6 років тому
Lorenzo Blasco If we look in to CPUs and chips we have ASML also, the Dutch company that manufacturer the machines that makes Intel, Samsung and Qualcomm chips, so a bit of Dutch engineering is inside almost every phone and computer. And we can go completely outside IT and still have European technology all over the world, German cars or another Dutch example, is how the most challenging tunnels, under and on water projects from Dubai to Korea, are designed, made and coordinated by Dutch companies.
@k0zzu21
@k0zzu21 6 років тому
Nokia recently acquired Alcatel and Ericsson is in big troubles right now. Huawei is just taking the network industry over with blatant patent copying and government subsidised manufacturing. Also it's impossible to any foreign company to penetrate the Chinese market, which is one of the fastest growing ones.
@93ariebombarie
@93ariebombarie 6 років тому
I don't agree about the lack of a startup ecosystem. Here in the Netherlands there is a very active startup scene
@PrincepsComitatus
@PrincepsComitatus 5 років тому
Great video.
@yarvik
@yarvik 5 років тому
Thanks for the video, nice analysis. I am sure that the facts presented have lingered in people's minds, but I am also sure that a few light bulbs came on whilst watching your presentation where all those facts are laid out neatly in a space of 11 min. My question is: have you considered biotech and its situation in Europe? As few luminaries posited on youtube that biotech is tooted to be the next "IT thing", considering that "IT thing" is rapidly moving to biotech. So could it be that Europe has moved on to the next big thing, leaving other countries to mimic it, just like it was with empire building, industrial revolution, electronics from previous decades and centuries. Is it possible that the next hi-tech has shifted again, from steam to oil, to semiconductor; and now to proteins, DNA and organics?
@vermashwetank
@vermashwetank 6 років тому
I think there is an additional reason why tech companies are not coming from Europe. I don't think any new big startup will come from Europe. This is because of the exact same thing that you talked about at the end of the video: Life is great in Europe. China is producing new and better companies because it has tons of problems. People with entrepreneurial spirit try to solve those problems and in the process, they make money. And then after that, they realise that similar problems exist everywhere else so they just expand to those places and in turn creating huge companies. If your life is good and there aren't many big problems around you, why would you bother with anything? You can see this happening more clearly when it comes Electric Vehicles. China has made huge strides in this field. This is because of the simple fact that they huge pollution problems and government is trying hard to solve those problem. EVs are an obvious solution to that problem and hence are diverting all their resources towards them. NOte: You also need all the stuff he talked about in the video to produce a great startup oppurinites.
@nickjohn2051
@nickjohn2051 6 років тому
shwetank verma One point contradict the electric car. Norway has the highest number of Tesla car in the world. With free electric charging provided by the goverment.
@vermashwetank
@vermashwetank 6 років тому
Except that Tesla is an American company using batteries made in China (not anymore though). I am pretty sure that the charging technology is not Norweign. I am not talking about adoption of products but the companies who make them.
@nickjohn2051
@nickjohn2051 6 років тому
shwetank verma Maybe the Norway take the safe route. Why invest in high risky company that may or may not deliver the product vs already exist electric car company such as Tesla. I think Tesla bsttery bank is not from China. It is from South America. I dont quite remember which country. But ESA satelite did overview picture before the lithium mining facility.
@Sacchidanand
@Sacchidanand 6 років тому
Nick John, Government is giving tax credits, cheaper, easy to charge and less dependence on oil. You answered your own question.
@Sacchidanand
@Sacchidanand 6 років тому
Nick John, Now from Giga factory, US. Was from Samsung /LG, South Korea.
@Vriheddd
@Vriheddd 6 років тому
Hardware from Europe: - Cameras: Hasselblad, Leica, Zeiss - Audio: Bang and Olufsen, Bowers&Wilkins, Senheiser, Dali and many more - Other: Nokia, Philips Software : - Browsers: Opera - Music: Spotify, Deezer, Soundcloud, Shazam - Games: many, many companies - Other: AVG, Kaspersky So there are some left. Mostly in premium sector though. Feel free to add something to my list
@FullOilBarrel
@FullOilBarrel 6 років тому
Vriheddd car manufacturers
@tomatom6988
@tomatom6988 6 років тому
Avast, Ubisoft?
@johnuferbach9166
@johnuferbach9166 6 років тому
Vriheddd SAP... afaik third largest software company (not for consumers though)
@flswttr
@flswttr 6 років тому
European car manufactureres just wreck US ones and probably Asian ones as well. They have a much higher reputation as well. Tech is developing on that side of things, its being implemented more and more tech into transportation everyday.
@SportsIncorporated
@SportsIncorporated 5 років тому
I always hear London associated with Fintech.
@lb2791
@lb2791 2 роки тому
OMG the point about the negative attitude toward new technologies is sooo true! It drives me nuts how everything new is always seen as a potential danger first without looking at the possible advantages.
@AdamMPick
@AdamMPick 6 років тому
ARM Limited, powering most of your mobile tech sits in the UK. AMD's development sits in Germany. The app driven economy is not tech, it is entertainment, at best. It provides little to no jobs or real economic value. When building anything in the world you fall back to european tech. The real reason why you do not see european products, is the cheap labour and lax tax laws in Korea and China.
@brazilianman92
@brazilianman92 6 років тому
Adam Pick that sounds neat and all. But Europe is quickly becoming economically mute. So keep dreaming bud. Europeans are the Masters of sleep walking into dark ages. 😂
@raymundhofmann7661
@raymundhofmann7661 6 років тому
ARM licenses their CPU core, this is a tiny bit of the money made with mobile devices in the world. AMD cashed in some susidies from Germany, buying incompetitive former socialist companies, this is all gone now, what is left can be called insignificant. Concerning industrial products Europe also has lost first to Japan, then Korea and now Taiwan/China. The worlds biggest semiconductor foundries are in Taiwan. There is still some industrial products supply in Europe, but overall in decline too while more in Asia/and somewhat in US it is expanding. Now with the fresh influx of Muslims and the since many generations established Muslims in all of Europe, the dying out and emigration of the former top-achievers, this will acellerate.
@AdamMPick
@AdamMPick 6 років тому
ARM does not just licence: ukposts.info/have/v-deo/gqmhaqB9erCIlWg.html There are only two countries to by from if you are serious about production, Germany and Japan are the only ones competing in the plant engineering world, the rest are building machines those two were making twenty years ago. Like making cars with technology from twenty years ago for India, there is a huge market for it, but you cannot call it a technology base. As for the muslim bashing, most EU countries have less then 5% muslims, still. Many do not even break 1%. Many of which are good factory workers and keep the economy rolling. As for emigration, well the Brexit already causes many talented young people to immigrate into the EU, not out of it. As does russian agression and Trump as president.
@snetmotnosrorb3946
@snetmotnosrorb3946 6 років тому
I cannot find any AMD operations in Europe besides sales and marketing. Please enlighten me.
@goattuxers4736
@goattuxers4736 6 років тому
ARM Limited should definitely be considered as an European tech giant. But this video obviously put more emphasis on the software and IT services instead of hardware. I think that's why the video maker forgot to mention the company. By the way, ARM Limited was already sold to Softbank group, which is a Japanese company.
@modeforjoe
@modeforjoe 6 років тому
SAP? $25B annual revenue?
@nicklausbrain
@nicklausbrain 5 років тому
Great analysis!
@gabrielelias983
@gabrielelias983 5 років тому
I like your channel. Good stuff.
@MrCmagik
@MrCmagik 6 років тому
The language problem is definitely a big issue. The fact that any app or ssytem you develop in the USA / China can reach a huge chunk of the population speaking one language under one set of legal rules makes it much more simple. Altough, while I can't talk for every european country (since I mostly know mine), I know France do produce a lot of technology but it is, as you said, bought by super giant.
@elukok
@elukok 6 років тому
Almost everyone tech savvy speaks english even if their official language is different. So language is not that much of a problem now. I am studying a computer science at university, and all the materials are in english, books are in english, lectures are in english. All the work we do is in english.
@sekgo1265
@sekgo1265 6 років тому
+elukok I studied CS like you in Europe too. I can tell you that the language problem is still a massive issue, the reason we're taught in english is because most of what we're taught in CS classes are from the US. Although it's becoming less of an issue, it's still massive in comparison.
@byakko9895
@byakko9895 6 років тому
I don't see that as a problem. Moving towards a single "Common" language for the species would be overall a good. Not to say that the other languages are unnecessary, but having a single language that is spoken by 100% of the population is extremely useful, so I support a push for that any day of the week.
@ionpopescu3167
@ionpopescu3167 2 роки тому
@@byakko9895 That's a very soulless and utilitarian view...
@abramhansen
@abramhansen 6 років тому
How about the third most popular pc of all time, the Raspberry Pi, which is UK based.
@tobiaswilfert2904
@tobiaswilfert2904 6 років тому
Same for Arduino made in Italy.
@simmerke1111
@simmerke1111 5 років тому
We still have factories and offices for a lot of the brands you talked about. Also as a Belgian, 22 of our tech companies were rated in the top 50 fastest growing tech companies in 2016. The difference is we don't support monopolies like America does.
@user-rs5hb6gd8e
@user-rs5hb6gd8e 5 років тому
I cant remember anything important in the world that are belgian :( You live in environment when socialist greedy government destroy new businesses, they just cannot grow. And people cannot earn more too. Its just stagnation.
@planestranger
@planestranger 5 років тому
@@user-rs5hb6gd8e Please tell, which companies could emerge and become big on established market in America? I mean there is google which is more than 20 years old company, Microsoft even older, Intel even older than that. Universal, Disney... don't even get me started on those. There is no way for something better to emerge on those markets and destroy those companies in a fair competition. That is not a free market. That is dystopian rule of supercorporations that (with their lawyers, lobbyists, corrupted schemes) become stronger than government, stronger than people.
@itchyshizle
@itchyshizle 5 років тому
@@user-rs5hb6gd8e To make profit past a certain point. You do things like: form monopolies, move your manufacturing to low wage countries, lobby politicians to push laws to profit your bussines, evade taxes and so much more (preferably after you have reached a major market share) NOT, " contribute to society".... But, you believe what you want ;)
@user-rs5hb6gd8e
@user-rs5hb6gd8e 5 років тому
@@itchyshizle Companies provide jobs for economy. Companies are people too! Why you think small group of people from company X should provide all for other people for free? Other people work for money and dont provide free stuff for corporations! Moving manufacturing is right thing if they can, rich countries are rich because they do more complex and unique things then poor countries, and not because they do same simple cheap things! There is no reason to pay for same screw more if it is made by US. When worker stop producing less expensive thing he can produce more expensive thing! You dont raise cows by yourself right? Or grow wheat? Why you move it to other ppl? Because you time is free for more productive stuff for you. Get out left lies! Im not Harvard professor but I hope you get an idea from my 3rd tongue english =)
@mangalores-x_x
@mangalores-x_x 5 років тому
@@itchyshizle Fun bit being: Most of this stuff like monopolies, wage dumping and lobbying is illegal in most market economies outside the US. So go figure why Europe does not condones this kind of stuff when the capitalism 1x1 book tells you that that stuff is bad for capitalism and a side effect your government needs to regulate!
@tgletgle9980
@tgletgle9980 5 років тому
I think the premise is flawed. I'm a musician. My interface is German(RME), my keyboard and pad controller- German (Native instruments) my main software- Belgian, my preamps and converters -British (Focusrite) Sync Distribution amp -German ( Rosendahl) my hardware effects -Danish ( TC Helicon and TC Electronic) and British/Spanish ( Syntifex /Focusrite) Monitors are British as well(Tannoy) and a smattering of European made EQ's and compressors. The list goes on and on... All in all I'd say 50 percent of the hardware i use is EUR 30 percent US and Canada and about 20 percent Asian, around 60 percent of the software I use is European as well. So to reiterate, in my case Eurotech is FLOURISHING.
@Friek555
@Friek555 6 років тому
I live in Europe and I am very glad that our markets are as tightly regulated as they are. I would much rather have an economic system where my employer can't just fire me, where my healthcare or my college education won't set me back thousands of dollars and where I can survive without living on the streets, even if I do lose my job. If tech giants are the price we pay for that, I'd pay that every time.
@dsnodgrass4843
@dsnodgrass4843 6 років тому
You are right. And this is the thing which will help Europe become a desirable place for the next set of innovators to gather + build the next great "big tech" companies in the medium ( not near) future. Because the US + Asia will not be conducive to them.
@WanderingRogue1
@WanderingRogue1 6 років тому
Tech giants who always try to cheat on their taxes...
@johnsonlong57
@johnsonlong57 6 років тому
Friek555 says the Google bot.
@aanomad
@aanomad 6 років тому
I live in Europe and You are the reason why we are getting poorer all the time. All all those thing You mentioned: "free education" "job protection" "healthcare" etc are just an illusion that are disappearing due to people like...
@maximilianbecker321
@maximilianbecker321 5 років тому
So you want to tell your for example 18 year old son who wats to study, that this will cost around 150.000€? This is bullshit. Education is a thing everyone should have access to, not only a few families. I am from Germany and I am quite happy with our system.
@Kelkschiz
@Kelkschiz 6 років тому
I think the title is misleading, tech companies are broader than just consumer electronics, internet services and software. Just take a look at the car and aerospace industry, Europe has some of the biggest of those in the world. Most European tech companies still exist but they have moved away from consumer electronics. Europe hasn't lost it's tech companies, Europe's tech companies have simply shifted their focus.
@empiregeof
@empiregeof 6 років тому
I think they moved to more outsourcing excisting technology to be produced by other nations that have the space and resources whilst staying as cost-effective as they can. European techcompanies are still big players in development of say, the self driving electric cars, 3d printing, software engineering. I know he's talking about consumer based technology, but lets be honest. Consumer based technology isnt what develops and innovates, its private sectors as the military or aero and space industry that cause shifts in developing new products, wich ultimatly end up as consumer based technology. What does the normal pleb do with a 3d printer? Print out some more Warhammer figurines?
@folver91
@folver91 6 років тому
He actually addresses it right away
@DoomDutch
@DoomDutch 6 років тому
*Insert thank you gif*
@VluggeJapie59
@VluggeJapie59 6 років тому
I completely agree. When Philps sold of there Tv brand they didn't cease to exist they just focus on another more profitable market (medical tech).
@erikwillems6466
@erikwillems6466 6 років тому
Europe's silicon valley is actually around Eindhoven. Where large european tech companies are located. The focus on consumer electronics and apps is just too limiting to draw such broad conclusions.
@RahulMPrathap
@RahulMPrathap 5 років тому
You have did a great research. Thanks.
@c4rysa1is
@c4rysa1is 5 років тому
Hello, nice music in background. Can you tell me whare did you find it? Whats the track?
@pandaDotDragon
@pandaDotDragon 6 років тому
In France we lost all our big companies & industries because in the 80s a whole generation of CEOs (inspired by the U.S) decided that the evolution was to have only plant-less companies. So they closed all the plants, moved all the production to Asia and considered that only the "brain work" will only remain. They just forgot one little thing: when you produce something you learn also a lot about it. And one day you know enough to create by yourself and not only produce for the others. Basic logic but obviously it's still too high for our CEOs.
@shippudenboy1
@shippudenboy1 6 років тому
It should not be considered an extreme statement that the goal of our economic efforts should be, above all else, improving quality of life. You fucking go, Europe.
@aeon9311
@aeon9311 6 років тому
And the best way to improve life is through technology.
@superduperfreakyDj
@superduperfreakyDj 6 років тому
Aeon Well that's up for debate.
@Gamerad360
@Gamerad360 6 років тому
@Ducky McDuckface not really, technology has driven the greatest leaps in quality of life. You have clean water on demand, while most of history you would have had to build a well, and walk a few miles, and the well water might get you sick. You have tasty, and healthy food, cheaply all around you that even kings of past didn't have access to, and spent mounds of gold to obtain. You have the ability to fly through the sky that at no price, a king of the past could afford. You have airconditioning, so you don't even have to deal with bad weather. You are living better then a king 200 years ago. You are wealthier then a king 200 years ago as well, because, even if you choose to feel poor, you can afford things that are grand luxuaries of the past, for almost nothing. If you make the minimum wage in the US, Canada, or Western Europe you are in the top 10% of the world. If you make over 100,000, if you earn over 47,500 USD a year, then you are the top 1%.
@superduperfreakyDj
@superduperfreakyDj 6 років тому
That's a different kind of technology, the technology talked about in the video is consumer technology. Europe is a global player in terms of other kinds of technology. My point was that Europe does not need to produce laptops or cellphones in order to increase it's quality of life.
@Gamerad360
@Gamerad360 6 років тому
@Ducky McDuckface, Aeon says "And the best way to improve life is through technology." Aeon didn't say a specific kind of Technology, and you replied "Aeon Well that's up for debate." You didn't make any point, but you disputed Aeon's claim that "the best way to improve life is through technology." he didn't make any other claim. No one in this converstation was talking about a specific technology, until your latest comment, but your last comment simply disputes that technology is the best way to improve quality of life.
@santomstudios
@santomstudios 5 років тому
This is so relaxing 👍
@alexturlais8558
@alexturlais8558 5 років тому
Maybe its more to do with specialisation? Even a continent as vast and diverse as Europe can't produce everything. Whilst European companies might not dominate in the smartphone or software industry, they have plenty of other areas they do as well or better than the US in. Boeing and Airbus are fairly equally matched. In electronics, Bosch and Siemens are very powerful. In cars, Volkswagen, Renault, Citroen, and numerous others lead the field. The first lesson any economics student will learn is that resources are scarce and not everything can be achieved at the same time and there's no shame in that.
@PlannedObsolescence
@PlannedObsolescence 2 роки тому
We do cheeseburgers better than you guys.
@alexmercer5574
@alexmercer5574 6 років тому
i don't live in Europe but still amazed by your videos congrats 👌
@BookBurnersStuff
@BookBurnersStuff 6 років тому
It is good to point out, that it is true, that European countries lags behind in tech companies. On the other hand, +- quarter of all scientific research done globally is done in Europe. So low number of tech companies is balanced by quite high number of research institutions per capita.
@johnuferbach9166
@johnuferbach9166 6 років тому
Jakub Ušelík also europe is big if not leading in cars and industrial tech
@Xavier-xb7is
@Xavier-xb7is 6 років тому
Dude that's true but it misses the point of the video: still no general purpose tech companies
@firexgodx980
@firexgodx980 5 років тому
That research isn't generating any money. If anything, it generates money for other countries, because y'all don't patent your ideas lol. Research is only useful if you have businesses ready to bring that new research to market. But whatever, thanks for the royalty free research. I'll see y'all on my yacht when I come and visit.
@mangalores-x_x
@mangalores-x_x 5 років тому
Europe patents as many or more than the US or China (difficult to find numbers as you only find numbers per country) so I don't see where you got your notion. E.g. Germany has ~20k international patents in 2017 vs. 60k in the US or 50k in China. Which means germany is patenting stuff over proportionally. reasearch is also not royalty free research though because most research is pursued or at least financed by companies. Someone gets paid for that research paper even if it is only the baseline of a later technology.
@canyadigit6274
@canyadigit6274 5 років тому
US is leading in scientific research though (NASA).
@abelfarkas5257
@abelfarkas5257 5 років тому
Mennyi videót megnéztem, aztán most látom hogy magyar a készítő! Nagyon minőségi videók vannak, tetszik!
@Harlock2day
@Harlock2day 3 роки тому
An Update ? Great video btw
@ViorelLavrentiev
@ViorelLavrentiev 6 років тому
In China you have to work hard because there are many people around you and they can take your job if you relax for a bit. Also, chineses usually don't care about labor laws, and people there easily accept these rules. In USA you have to work hard because there are too many high trained people especially foreigners who came there by Green Card program. Also, imho the USA's labor legislation is better for companies, but european is better for employees. You don't have to work really hard in Europe because, as we have seen in the video, there is "less income inequality". There is good actually, but as for competitiveness and challenging it is bad point
@Bishop38f8
@Bishop38f8 6 років тому
Yes, if by "harder" you mean longer hours. Americans spend more time in work, but don't do more actual work in that time.
@Black12Phoenix
@Black12Phoenix 6 років тому
Of course in Europe there is less income inequality! For example in Portugal, we're all equally poor.
@MrMakabar
@MrMakabar 6 років тому
Just have to put the tech giant SAP out their. Even thou it is not directly a onsumer software producer it surely is huge.
@clicktv9419
@clicktv9419 5 років тому
I love your Videos😍😊
@mahdi5796
@mahdi5796 5 років тому
Thanks for sharing your opinion.
@edifier74
@edifier74 6 років тому
By narrowing down tech by consumer products only is a disservice to the tech industry. Because a lot of tech companies cater to business & enterprise solution. Nokia & Ericsson are still major players in the telecommunication world they just don't sell consumer products anymore because the profit margins in enterprise solution is much higher.
@anticeon
@anticeon 6 років тому
My country leave Nokia for Huawei bcus its cheaper
@haozhang5078
@haozhang5078 5 років тому
but, but, but if you see both market consumer products and enterprise solution, Nokia don't sell any smartphones now and Huawei is the number one in enterprise solution market.....and they sell smartphone still
@frankr111th
@frankr111th 6 років тому
Another excellent video. I think you hit the main points. I would add the USA for all of our issues, still is a very entrepreneurial minded country. We are still a country of risk takers and optimists, and we attract risk takers and optimists from all around the world.
@brazilianman92
@brazilianman92 6 років тому
The eagle flies alone they say. Luck favors the bold. USA! USA! USA!
@mastareci25
@mastareci25 5 років тому
As all ur videos. Very interesting and educational. Keep going. Greatings for Hungary 👍
@darkryder2000
@darkryder2000 6 років тому
What about SAP AG, Mikrotik/RouterOS, other professional hardware/software?
@KJ_bluebird
@KJ_bluebird 6 років тому
I think it is a bit hard to compare one country (US or China) to a cluster of countries (Europe). While Europe tries to work as a single market, there are fundamental differences. As you pointed out, geography and demographics make it hard to take as a whole single unit than for example the states in the US. Thus I would say this is the main issue when trying to compare Europe as a single market to the US or China. While yes, you can have differences between different US states or China's provinces, countries are on a completely different level since they operate and have developed separately. One example of why things cannot be compared and are thus are too grossly simplified due to this is attitude. Estonia for example is a poster-child regarding positive attitude towards technology. From the everyday person up to the government - technology is used daily and developed (software mostly) on the governmental level to be used by the government itself and the citizens. And as many have pointed out, Europe in general is more towards B2B technology.
@felipejnnt
@felipejnnt 6 років тому
Geography is not a valid argument. Take south korea. It’s small and isolated from it’s major export markets and it still has more tech companies than europe does.
@Yatsura2
@Yatsura2 6 років тому
Country size is bullshit. Deserts, rocks and bushes wont buy smartphones, people do. Germany alone has 60% of USA's population size. Same with language. Count in the other german speaking countries like Austria, Switzerland, Netherlands and Belgium and all of a sudden you got more consumers with one single language than USA ever could.
@1980mhj
@1980mhj 6 років тому
Germany has 25% the population of the US, not that this is necessarily relevant to your point.
@UrielSuarezElectro
@UrielSuarezElectro 6 років тому
Yatsura2 The US has 323 million people, how does Germany's 83 million population equal to 60% of the USA?! Even if you add up all does PARTLY German speaking countries, you'll only get ~128 Million people. Also to that point, if you include Canada (since they speak English almost exactly like Americans) with the US, Germany and those other countries COULD NEVER have more people.
@xealit
@xealit 6 років тому
If European legislations and bureaucracy is the reason, than it's Europe shooting itself in the foot when USA and China don't.
@matthiask712
@matthiask712 6 років тому
1. open google 2. type "list of countries by exports 3. click on wikipedia 4. rethink your video.
@crossfiremedia8236
@crossfiremedia8236 6 років тому
This video was about (consumer) tech companies though, not about export or the economy in general o.O
@Oystein87
@Oystein87 5 років тому
Audio from Europe: Dali, JWS, Hegel, Electrocompaniet, Seas, Senheiser and several more. Seas make parts for many other brands.
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