Please do face reveal

Keyboards like the kinesis could be interesting couldn't it?

I find handwiring much easier as it involves at least a bit of variation and some creative thinking, whereas switch lubing is excrutiatingly repetitive

how is it even possible that people do that crap in the 21 century

Yeah fuck that I would never do that just for a keyboard

I lubbed manually 5 builds and I'll probably never do it again. The satisfaction of handwiring, programming and even designing a PCB with the right layout for me (split staggered with thumb keys) has much more impact on my typing experience than any lubbing ever had.

i love to solder and switches is like assembly work techs hate that lol.. i have my solder cert

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nevermind the ad bot but yeah thats what happened to me with my mouse and mousepad, i was really interested but as soon as i got my gpx superlight and an artisan shidenkai i didnt really look back. its been more than a year. one day if my mouse breaks maybe i will

Remember that "The cake is a lie". There is no such thing as an endgame.

ngl thats really thought-provoking

i've applied this lesson in my personal life. very important.

After going all around mechs you will still end up back at the HHKB topre

Laughs in 40% ortho

HHKB Handholdless Hugless Kissless Birgin

The one and only god tier Emacs keyboard

Yeah, I wound up using my NuPhy 75 way more than my Wooting Two keyboard after a while. It's way more comfortable to use over long stretches of time, and the wireless nature is incredibly convenient.

I think there's a large portion of the community who desire the typing experience of a custom and not necessarily the nuanced process of how its achieved and there's nothing wrong with that. I like craft beer over large scale domestic, but you won't ever catch me brewing it myself.

DO NOT buy a Nuphy keyboard, they aren`t taht great. Source? I bought one. Cheapo feeling plastic, bendy as hell, and a LOT of chatter. i

Have you tried the KDA keycap profile? It's the exact same low high as Cherry, but with none of the switch interference, and minimal and very smooth gaps in height between the keys, making it feel like a low profile board in terms of how much you have to lift your finger to move between caps. Thee sculpt is heavily concaved which makes reaching the upper rows very easy (such as the num row and F row while holding at WASD for gaming). XVX have doublesh0t PBT sets of it for

​@@PP-ok2xt i have nuphys halo 75 and i love it

No matter what we do, we always find our way back to Topre.

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there are probably a million of even worse money sinks out there.

If it does die, a more modernized version is still made in an original factory today, by Unicomp. It's arguably not as good as an original, but I'm very pleased with mine.

Cip is god

Just don't go down the ergonomic rabbit hole.

@@oku-mq7kg I've been interested in getting an ErgoDox at some point in the future. Haven't pulled the trigger yet but I assume the ErgoDox EZ is the easiest way to get one.

@@Fogoat ErgoDox, Moonlander, Kinesis, Dygma Defy, and much more are all viable options in the pre-built space. The Kinesis Advantage360 Pro is the only one I'd personally buy out of any pre-built, but I much prefer low-profile boards with choc spacing at the very least. I would say it's the best move to make, switching to an ergonomic keyboard. But it _can_ be an expensive rabbit hole as you explore different layouts.

I'm the opposite to you, I was super into my mechanical keyboards, and started out in 2012 with a black widow (its still sat on my desk) but over the years as a mechanical engineer who does a lot of typing and cad work ive realised I'm much faster and much more comfortable on a cheap laptop island keyboard and honestly I have a sense of guilt about it, I love using old reliable tools, I whip out the slide rule, ink dip compass and fourth generation calipers as often as I can, hell I use a chalk board for most of my workings but I just can't get comfortable anymore on a mechanical keyboard

That's a good comparison.

However, you also have to see it this way: because of the enthusiasts we now have previously "high end" features in lower end pre-built keyboards (as well as coffee machines). My current keyboard has lubed hall effect switches and cost less than most custom keycap sets.

I've always preferred a smaller layout, it's nice not having to reach for keys that can be accessed using layers, combos or by other means. I currently type on a 34-key keyboard, and I can access everything without having to stretch my fingers or move my hands, which is extremely comfortable. I guess it's to appeal to those that play games, it does allow for more space on the desk to place your mouse, but it could just be for aesthetic reasons.

i always love the visual appeal of smaller keyboards, but as a gamer/artist I find myself using macros and shortcuts a lot. you definitely get those with layers but man, its so hard to learn at first without feeling like "i can just go back to before and be faster, this is silly." big respect for people who can use them lol@@oku-mq7kg

I agree. It's crazy to me how people can spend so much time and money looking for the perfect non split row staggered keyboard. It's like trying to find the best feeling concrete mattress.

@@Rakkoonn This is probably the best description I've heard so far!

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I've been using the K380 for something like 6 years I think. It's a wonderful keyboard, available in most countries, at a cheap price. I remember going down the rabbit hole of mechanical keyboards like @Livakivi. In retrospect, it's all mostly hype. There is much more to the keyboard than charts about actuation patterns. The K380 is wireless and works years with the batteries you insert. It's lightweight, reliable, and I can reliably buy a new one. It's also working with my particular hand sizes and fingers, which is probably the most important thing in a keyboard. My advice, and I think it matches the experience of this video as well, is to try a few keyboards, and pick the one you like most, regardless of ridiculously specific data like actuation patterns. I also advise to consider availability so you have a plan if it breaks, and accessibility so other people than you can actually use the keyboard without your help.

Once I get back to Korea I will shop around for Keyboards since I plan to get a desktop once I am there. The only thing I really need from a keyboard is to have Korean characters on the keys which is much harder to shop for in the UK. I've heard some people say that the sound of keyboards is soothing or pleasant but it doesn't really do anything for me so I'm happy with how quiet the K380 is since it doesn't disturb the people I talk to online while I type.

I've thought about looking around for keycaps with Korean on them, but at this point I honestly don't really have any reason to I just kind of want them, because I just learned to touch type by typing and pulling up a diagram every time I forgot a key position until I remembered them all.

@@sheep4483 That's also a solid solution as well. Unfortunately I lost the tip of one of my ring fingers as a kid so I never learned how to type properly because of it. I only use the thumb, index and middle finger on my left hand.

@@michaelcallaghan1989 I now opt for silent switches whenever I can, purely because I find it obnoxious. I'm very excited for Kailh to release the Ambient series for the Choc V1 switches. When you say you lost the tip, how much is missing, if you don't mind me asking? It's just there was someone who had also lost a portion of their finger, and designed a PCB to account for this, which was actually really cool!

Ortholiniar 40% all the way... #inland MK47

there are already a good amount of ergo boards, Lily58, Sofle v2, Kyria, etc....

40% are inefficient and Ortholinear is objectively bad considering the existence of Column stagger boards. @@willhaney96

just cough it up for a glove80

Wut

Well yes because changing the switch design would completely remove the customizability enthusiasts enjoy most. Congratulations you came up with an idea that is completely unprofitable for anyone designing keebs

:^)

Actually it wasn't only "because they were cheaper" but also because they were a lot quieter. Well that and the advanced membrane keyboards could have individual weight for each key. The presses were designed to match the strength of the fingers so the keys you pressed with your ring or pinky finger were a lot lighter then the keys towards the middle of the keyboard, not to mention the space bar that you would press with your thumb. Some loved that and some hated it, but it was something made possible by the rubber dome sheets used. Something like this could be done with mechanical keys, but it would drive the cost a lot higher. Again some would love it and others hate the different weight. I remember how manufacturers were competing in making as quiet keyboards as possible. Personally I love buckling springs. At one of my first jobs I some times repaired IBM keyboards with buckling springs. The common problem was a flapper that had moved out of it's intended site. I remember that there was a lot of screws keeping everything together, but it was really a simple fix just opening it and put the flapper back where it belonged. The feeling and sound of the buckling springs keyboards was intended to remind you of using a mechanical typewriter. This was fine as long as you had a lot of typewriters and only a few computers. But as computers became the standard people started to get irritated on the buckling springs keyboards, especially when membrane keyboards became common. So yea, membrane keyboards replaced mechanical keyboards not just because they were cheap, but also because they worked better in huge offices with many people working in cubicles.

ok this is weird but you commented on one of my videos about atlas about a year or so ago and now i am seeing you again. massive coincidence but i love your video about legacy minecraft lol

Thanks I’m glad you liked it! I actually found your channel way before the Atlas song. In 2021 I was big on Minecraft name sniping and found your channel through it lol.

@@BM30 Thats cool! Thanks for the support

He should have complain of the toxic community, instead of lubing

I can open cans of beans easily

@@Livakivi And repel the ladies even easier :)

I am no keyboard expert, i have a low value wireless mechanical with backlight that was from the first of it's kind back in the day and i have been using that for many years now. It felt massively more satisfying typing on it than my previous membrane Logitech keyboard and did the job so i never got into trying all types of keyboards etc. BUT i am quite surprised that this very expensive HHKB keyboards shown here are built the way they are built that he needs to put little pieces of paper for them not to rattle. My $50 keyboard doesn't have a line like that to put pieces of paper. It is one solid thick plastic piece which is why after using it for all this years it never makes a sound or rattles. How can such an expensive keyboard have worse built quality that a cheap $50 keyboard seems quite amazing to me.

@@SIPEROTH If I had to guess I'd say that's likely due to him picking it up second hand. Could have been poorly stored, carried in a backpack (common use case for this size of keyboard), or the previous owner may have modded it at some point. There's a fairly common mod where you remove the bottom case and put in a sheet of foam to fill the space between the PCB and bottom case, which if you use anything too thick can make it hard to tighten the screws fully. That could very easily cause a little gap like that.