I hope they wash their feet regularly

lol it's Brodie in the comment section of a random video I got recommernded

@@DavidJonSpem I've known Livakivi since his channel only had a few thousand subs

No, you are using the wrong distro. Mine is the one and only true one. We are the true followers of Lord Torvalds. Vegan meat tastes better. I love your comment and your channel.

Linux cult have soda and chips after each meeting. Windows haves a force update why having a meeting:)

Glad to hear that, sounds promising!

You're absolutely spot on. Well said. NVIDIA are the real dicks here. @Livakivi Fedora Workstation dude.

@@Livakivi You can actually run a Wayland session of Gnome with Nvidia drivers and have it work relatively well. Fedora 36 does this by default. I'm running it right now and it's super smooth, the only issue I've had it that the Spotify app flickers on occasion if I'm not focused, but that doesn't really hinder me at all. Right now Gnome seems to be the only desktop environment that can run Wayland on Nvidia relatively well, KDE's implementation is still iffy, even on AMD/Intel.

@@Livakivi If you can, just change to an AMD graphics card and most GUI issues should be gone. I had the same problem

I just ditched my NVIDIA card for AMD. And games just work perfectly, out of the box, regardless of Wayland or Xorg. Also, for typing non-English language, I use ibus.

Have u tried LXDE??

soon POP os will have their own DE called Cosmo or something, done by themselves (devs)

LXQT is really good one

​@@TonyStark-xp2tdmate, if kde runs the best, an even lighter desktop environment will not run better

@@aqua-bery not??

Typical windows experience

@@carleynorthcoast1915 that has never happened to me. I used to see how but now I think windows wont restart unless you do it yourself but the problem with that is people don't restart their machines. then different distros then on top of that now if I want to use linux i have to worry about x11 or wayland its like too much i would deal with random reboots and do my due diligence in making sure your computer is UpToDate before a major exam rofl, than run a gimped experience because i have a computer with Nvidia Graphics and well driver support from nvidia is crap.

I have something similar yesterday during a bank wire... it has made twice. I can't put up with windows more

I had something annoying similar happen which made me switch to Linux. I am in welding school for a federal contractor (already been to school for a metallurgy degree, this was offered to me when I was hired and of course I said yes for the certifications). I brought my monster gaming PC and my Linux PC (as I have been experimenting with Proton and my Steam account), updated to Win 11, had issues with some games, went back to Win 10, I didn't realize their cloud storage was now turned on by default...I ran Win 10 for about 7 years and NEVER dealt with the cloud (I have 39tb storage in total between 2 computers and external hard drive). Needless to say, I had a text file where I had spent about 2 hours organizing assignments (as we had about 25 to 30 to finish with tests), PDF files from canvas, all assignments were organized (spent the time to see what I had done and what needed to be done, in alphabetical order, was very tedious). The folder was GONE...I panicked (but had backup in my email of the text files, but not the one I spent all the time on). It was stored in one drive, and the text file was DELETED. I was nearly "out of storage"...BS. Uninstalled that nonsense, disabled it, but I know how this goes. It is probably still running somewhere in the background. I spent a weekend removing all photos, music, records, emails, all put in LInux MInt for safe keeping. Now daily driving MInt, have a custom Kernel, games work, Fruity Loops installed, I am LOVING Linux and learning the command line. Kiss my ass Microsoft...I don't trust them to just leave my computer the hell alone, but Tux will leave my computer alone.

Do people not update their computers until the last minute? Dude just update and shutdown when you get off the pc.

I am really interested, can you show me where one can learn these things.

@@magmacodes9143 same

@@steins1457 couldn't say it better myself

i guess vulkan does that and DX doesn’t

@@joechristo2 DX12 does it too, that's why you get shader compilation stutter in a lot of games. Proton converts the DX draw calls to Vulkan draw calls, which has another system using SPIR-V instead of compiled HLSL or something like that. There's simply an extra step, but it only needs to be done once per shader really. Once the shader has been compiled and has been cached (again, not unique to Vulkan. Proton just has another step from a DX game) these games are pretty fast and sometimes faster than on Windows. The stutter in that 2D game I wouldn't attribute to shader compilation though. Sooner to networking or file I/O.

I switched in 2015, I'm a backend dev and I STILL have issues.

That was one of the things that caused me to switch in 2019. Issues with windows, that I literally had no easy way of fixing

Yea so far for me Linux is sufficient for my needs I really have no desire to use windows or osx I switched a while ago though.

Once you get used to it, it's great. It helps to have a familiar DE like KDE

@@ekksoku Switched a year ago. Everything runs fine, untill some bug comes along. These go all the way from graphical driver errors all the way to kernel issues. This has happened on so many occasions that a more linux experienced friend has labeled my desktop as 'haunted' :P

learning how to do permanent fixes isn't a given though, i didn't know how to use startup scripts so i stopped using linux because of monitor settings not saving.

Or simply just use real os like windows and stop simping over the overrated linux crap

@@user-yi4ts3tr7w 🤣🤣🤣🤣 There have been only 2 OSes that I have ever found that weren't a nightmare to use: Amiga OS and Linux.

Until you run a system update. Then is ALL FUCKED AGAIN.

@@hieverybody4246 Haven't run into that recently. Mint and Debian have been pretty reliable for me.

One thing I noticed with my older hardware is that dxvk uses a LOT of video RAM. To the point that I have to disable it for some games to avoid lag. A notable example here is Potion Craft. A really lean game, but it maxes out my 4GB of VRAM if I run it with default settings. Turning off DXVK and it uses only a couple hundred MB, which is what I would expect. I suspect it uses the same low amount of VRAM on Windows, so this is clearly a problem when running it on Linux, but on better hardware you wouldn't even notice.

@@Yotanido Have you tried running the game in DX11 mode to see if that changes anything?

Absolutely no reason he says. Actually has 2 reasons.

And you will only have to render each animation once ever and steam even shares the result of the rendering to the cloud so for future gamers the shader will be loaded before the games loads up (the shader-pre-caching popup). That means when a game is very laggy for u on proton, you are likely one of the first to play it on linux (or the game got a huge update recently) and make the game way smother for next players. Thats why these lag spickes arent such a problem on popular games since steam has implemented this. By experiencing this spike, youre doing a service to the community.

I run a triple monitor setup (1080p 60Hz in portrait, 1440p ultrawide 100Hz, 1600p 60Hz screen tablet) on a fairly modern machine and never had any problem whatsoever, at least on Wayland. Doesn't mean there are no issues though. If you run Gnome on Wayland, VR headsets don't work for example, and neither does Freesync (unless you run a patched window manager). So yeah, there's still room for improvement.

It’s also a big issue because of cost, even though I hate windows I’m not going to just ditch my perfectly working Nvidia GPU for an AMD one, which will require additional hardware other than the GPU itself For me if I were to do that I’d be spending almost as much as a MacBook Air and I’d rather get a MacBook Air over upgrading my pc. Nvidia now supporting open-source drivers is a huge step forward, and I can’t wait to see how it’ll go, god I can’t wait to ditch windows for Linux or macOS

@@liamsz Why do you think you can't just switch from an nvidia GPU to a AMD GPU? They both use and need PCI-E so there is no hurdle. (and PCI-E is up and down compatible)

I've had good luck with integrated Intel and AMD. Not much issue with Nvidia so far either. My current machine has integrated Intel graphics and it plays games just fine.

Windows Xp wow!

@@Lotanna20 More like Windows XP SP2 🙃

Yup, good to see more people like this ; I've been experimenting with Linux, on and off for about 15 years and only started using it as a daily driver 3 years ago (when I had to ditch Win 7) and after a few weeks I realized that its best to dual boot 2 or 3 distros to avoid spending too much time trying to solve problems Solus Mate came out top as a fast and stable daily driver that no update has ever gone wrong (fingers crossed), Mint Mate for the few things that didn't work on Solus (cups server, ie printing was one), and an Arch which I hardly ever need to resort to, but has me in useful when a Mint update messed up and had to be reinstalled: I really recommend this setup for noobs especially...

@@fiddledotgoth I'm considering testing Linux but I don't know if Pop Os will suit what I need. What do you suggest? I just want something that can have Sushi wallpaper and run mc some games, and primarily on the program side of things I need to run programs like Unity and 3D model as well as preferably studio 2.0. I also need access to a editing software and a built in screen recorder. What do you think I should go for? The laptop I'm trynna get has Windows 11 Pro prebuilt and honestly I like Windows 11 Pro 22h2 but would like to test Linux.

@@TheHolySpiritISgreat I wouldn't recommend a Windows 11 PC for running Linux, but what you can try is using an app called Rufus and a fast usb flash drive (I like Samsung Ultra Fit) to make a bootable usb drive with persistence and you'd probably want to install linux mint on that, since Unity seems to work best on Ububntu based OSs If it doesn't boot up from usb on first try, you might need to enable usb boot and/or disble fast.secure boot in the bois first - Using a live usb to test linux means you don't need to mess with the Windows harddrive (can even remove it while testing to be sure) in order to try out linux Otherwise I'd recommend and older PC, say 1 or 2 years old, and if you're running 3d graphical stuff on it (Im not familiar with Unity myself) and need decent graphics ability, I'd find one with good radeon or Intel graphics as they work better with linux...

@@TheHolySpiritISgreat Oh and both Mint and Solus Mate have good editing and screenrecord apps, Pop OS should be ok too and should work on persistent usb but I've never done one myself - ...

@@fiddledotgoth can they run unity?

I used to think the same way. But then, talking to a friend over a pint of beer, he asked me what I'd been up to, and I told him that I was upgrading my OS. "Which one?", he asked. So I explained that I ran Linux, which is an alternative to Windows. I thought he was just indulging "the nerd" and pretending to be interested, whilst actually not really caring about operating systems. You know, like most normal people. But he was paying attention because the next time I saw him, he asked me to make him an install CD for Ubuntu. So I did and he used that to install Linux on an old laptop. His reasoning was that the laptop was old and wouldn't be good enough to upgrade to the latest Windows, and he had a newer laptop with the latest version of Windows anyway. Basically, this old laptop would just have been thrown out. So there was no impediment to giving Linux a try on it. If it doesn't work out then, ah, it was going to be thrown out regardless. But if it does work, then that's saved the old laptop from the dump for at least a few years. He installed it and was perfectly happy with it. He's been regularly telling me his tales of using Linux. On the back of this, when Microsoft brought XP to "end of life", my mother had a little netbook. It's a deliberately underpowered machine, of course, being a netbook - which are cheap and small, but get basic "Internet and email" stuff done - and so there's doubts that it could be upgraded to a newer version of Windows. So, again, it was a case of "might as well try Linux, because this machine is destined for the skip anyway". If it works, then it's saved from being thrown out for a few years. If it doesn't, then it was going to be thrown out anyway. Again, to my surprise, my mother - who's in her 80s - got along just fine with Ubuntu Linux. She's still using it and got that netbook to this day - and actually kind of prefers it to her full-blown Windows laptop, which is only used for printing and video conferencing, just because it's got a bigger nicer display on it. Everything else is happily done on her Linux netbook. Yes, she actually prefers the modified GNOME experience you get with Ubuntu's "Unity" to the Windows desktop. Because it gets out of the way and lets you just do your work. After this, I've re-assessed things. Despite the established wisdom, Linux is not intrinsically hard. At least not any modern user-friendly distro, like Ubuntu or Mint. Whilst there are command lines and configuration files, these days it's perfectly possible to treat Linux as you would treat Windows - just accept the desktop environment "as is" and don't try to customise or optimise it. Just accept the "out of the box" experience as it comes - exactly like you do with Windows, mainly because, with Windows, you don't really have any alternative choices, when there is only one desktop and you can't mess with the configuration, as it's not exposed to the user. In this context, Linux is perfectly usable by "normies" and it isn't hard for them. In fact, I've had reports of such people preferring the simplicity of Ubuntu's interface to Windows. They actually like it better, and it - amusingly - causes them less problems. I think a problem with Linux - that's earnt it this "Linux is hard" reputation - is that, yes, historically, it actually was hard, requiring the command line to make things work. But that's not been the case for a long, long while now. You can do all the same basic stuff that you can do on Windows through the GUIs provided - so if that's all you're interested in, then there's essentially little difference. It looks different, but that isn't necessarily a bad thing - and every upgrade of Windows makes it look different anyway, so what's the difference? If you have friends who're in a similar not-mission-critical position - an old laptop that's going to be thrown anyway, so there's no harm in trying - then try recommending it as a means to save an old laptop from the skip for a few more years. You could quite well be as surprised as I was that, actually, it all goes just fine and they might even become Linux converts, preferring it to Windows. As a "power user" myself, then you tend not to think of these things. When I get Linux installed, I'm wanting to install the latest graphics drivers and mess with configuration files, and customise the desktop to exactly my tastes - I dive into "the hard stuff" straight away, as Linux, being open, happily lets me customise and configure it to within an inch of its life (heck, if I want to change the source code directly, I actually can! Not that you'd do that for any trivial reasons, though). But, ah, if you treat it like you'd treat Windows - just accept what you're given "out of the box" and don't mess with it - then it really is perfectly comparable to Windows. Different, but not worse for it (and sometimes better, as these old laptops seemingly run faster, just because Linux demands less resources to run).

​@@klaxoncow honestly the main problem with Linux is hardware tweakers aren't anywhere near as readily available as software tweakers I run a fucked up version of KDE with global menus and things designed to be as pixel efficient as possible, with a side of 'distant relative to the mac' I set that up in 10 minutes, and recolored the ENTIRE OS in another 20 there's no MSI afterburner, I can't overclock my AMD GPU, come on, Linus Unix, I like every form of Unixlike (yes even apple mac) and yet the seeming lack of hardware tweaking compared to Windows is honestly kind of sad, it works well with Apple computers but my desktop ain't a mac, I should be able to optimize the hardware as much as I have the software experience

in that sense the various Unixes are actually more 'out of the box' then Windows is because of how set in stone things like speedshift are

@@supercellex4D you can probably overclock it from the terminal tho

@@urimc I've tried, the registers things like throttlestop use don't even have command like utilities available, which is a pain in the ass for laptop users who do need to undervolt for maximum performance

What you call a weird PATH script in reality is just a way for windows to map an alias (for example python-{version-x}) to the path for the executable. It just tells the shell where to look when you or the os requests python-{version-x}. This can be done manually in like 2 steps, but I wouldn't blame anyone for not knowing this. I think when choosing the best os for you it comes down to what you are more comfortable with/eager to learn the most about.

I think you made a good point here. People who expect Windows experience in Linux are more likely to go back. The true power of linux is flexibility, so those who eger for building more productive desktop environment and don't afraid to invest some time into it will get hugely rewarded. After around couple decades I spend on Linux the Windows desktop cause nothing but pain to me, and my productiviy just sinks.

I can recommend you Ameliorated, if you want to play windows games that dont run through proton yet, because it is completely stripped down, with almost no components that collect your data ^^

>while on windows I had to use some weird script to change PATH... changing PATH and LD_LIBRARY_PATH to run an alternative version of a program that you didn't install and just put in some folder is also a typical way how to do it on Linux ...

Some are more practical than others. But if you have the time, money and motivation and multi GPU setup with Gentoo host and windows guest. Linux WILL become a great friend.

I've used Arch for many years now (and Linux for 15 years), apart from getting going (it takes days to weeks to gradually add all the components you want) it has by far the most pleasant experience with support for software and technology. Any slightly non-standard thing you want to do is met with much less friction than any other distro I've ever tried. That being said, unless you're looking to slowly learn intermediate Linux use it's one of the worst choices for beginners among the popular distros. I know Manjaro (based on Arch) can be controversial, but having moved from a 3 year old Arch installation to attempting Manjaro again, I haven't had a single notable issue since I installed it two months ago. It has improved by leaps and bounds since the last time I tried it, I'm so impressed, the polish is second to few. With no tweaking I was able to use all my sound devices and peripherals, I can have 144hz on one screen and 60hz on the other, and I was able to run all my regular games with no additional setup. And they manage to do all this without ever feeling bloated. I can't overstate how pleased I am to see the distro go from a hacky pile of scripts to a full-fledged beginner (and novice) friendly environment. I might never go back to regular Arch for my desktop.

@@fredspipa do you use nvidia or amd for your graphics card?

@@jshroom1717 AMD 6600XT, I'm pretty sure nVidia would have more friction if I'm to judge by past experiences (and what others are currently saying).

You are the problem here. Newbies need help, not an arrogant jerk.

i have a nvidia 1660ti and i dont have any of these issues at all, i think his driver is royally messed up

have nvidia 2070s and i literally had to use a single command to install drivers and everything worked perfectly :) I was pleasantly suprised. Running on Ubuntu 22.04

It's not "open source software", it's "free software".

I have an AMD card and despite asking several support servers nobody was able to help me fix my 240hz monitor only working when i disable my secondary 60hz monitor

There's Nvidia proprietary drivers (closed source) which are only released by Nvidia and there are open source drivers. Closed source is mostly better performance BUT if you have an issue, don't cry to the open source community - they cannot fix this, only Nvidia can. And that's why Nvidia is trash.

An actual based linux user has been spotted

So windows 11's philosophy indeed succeeded, it brought you closer to what you love!

@@pulkitsukhija LOL

Keep working at it and if you are capable you may find that your friend was right all along. But I'm not going to tell you that it is easy. Because for most folks it isn't. The Linux rabbit hole goes all the way to the bottom if you're brave enough to go there yourself.

It's been a year since you wrote this. Do you think I as a complete Windows user could swap to something like Linux mint, and do the following with absolutely 0 headaches: Play WoW, CSGO, OSRS, and Monster hunter on steam, browse the web with firefox, all while having Nvidia hardware?

How do i know If my hardware is compatible with wayland? I installed arch with hyprland in an old laptop and It is running very well

As soon as windows 10 support drops I’m switching to linux. If there’s a way for local accounts on windows 11 ill stay on windows.

Linux can have insane issues too. It comes with the territory when you're using computers.

@@1pcfred Let's be truly honest. All operating systems can have insane issues. Because, you know, it's an operating system. It's a stupidly complex bit of software that, on the PC, has to cope with a truly insane amount of different hardware. But I'd prefer Linux here, simply because the issues I see with it are related to that hardware compatibility. On Windows, it's usually related to bad programming. For example, in this video, yes, there are frame rate issues on Linux. But these are the well-known slightly-shit nVidia drivers (which Linus Torvalds has given them the middle finger and told them "fuck you" for being so bad). The software itself is just fine (demonstrably so on AMD systems) but the hardware support is flakey. Meanwhile, on Windows, you have some settings in "Settings" and some settings in "Control Panel". It's been like this since Windows 8. Some apps do "dark mode", others don't (which will randomly blind you, if you're using "dark mode" in a dark room and then a bright white window appears). They make some little progress each time, I guess. But what we're looking at there is simply that Microsoft shipped an unfinished OS. Extra keyboard languages? Things just locking up and freezing for stupidly long amounts of time, for seemingly no reason? Hopefully, you get the gist of what I'm getting at. On Linux, the issues you encounter tend to be hardware compatibility / shit or non-existent drivers - but the software itself is totally good (and on compatible hardware with good drivers, you can 100% see that). On Windows, the problems tend to be actual bad / unfinished coding, because Microsoft doesn't give a shit and has been shipping unfinished "work in progress" stuff for multiple versions now. Windows 11 still hasn't unified "Settings" and "Control Panel" yet. "Dark mode" is still hit-and-miss. Random half-minute freezes for no apparent reason - why did that just happen? No-one knows. And, like with the extra keyboard languages, Windows is full of weird tiny little quirks like that all over the place. And Microsoft's bad attitude in shipping this half-finished crap has been getting worse, proportional to their arrogance in installing spyware and subscription software on your machine. With Linux, the code itself is good. Because you've got people who care, and actually use their own software, trying their best - often unpaid - just to make the best product they can (and the problems typically result from the fact that Linux doesn't automatically get drivers, as Windows does automatically because no hardware manufacturer is going to ship without Windows drivers) and true bugs are quashed quickly. Microsoft are just counting the money and laughing: "Give them any old half-broken shit, they'll have to eat it". Yeah, the drivers are good - mainly because the manufacturers themselves make those for Microsoft, as who's going to ship hardware without drivers for the by-far most used OS? - but the software's just a half-done job from a poorly paid "code monkey" from India, as Microsoft don't care as long as the cash keeps flowing. But, yeah, the gist of what I'm saying is that every OS has issues. Because operating systems are hard. Stupidly hard. As hard as it possibly can get. But I'd rather issues that are genuine issues (usually to do with hardware) and potentially fixable, than issues that resulting from a big corporation, who thinks they own your machine more than you do, flatly not giving a shit to do anything beyond "ah, that'll do" passable-but-quirky, because they have your money already, so why try harder?

@@klaxoncow Linus gave Nvidia the finger because the drivers for Quadro were non-existent. Nvidia only supported their consumer graphics adapters on Linux. That would be the GT line. Plus some earlier products they made like the MX and RIVA. The philosophy of Linux and FLOSS in general is release early and release often. That means releasing code before it is good. Most Linux driver code is written by manufacturers today. AMD, Intel and Nvidia all make drivers for their hardware. The bulk of Linux is written by paid professionals now.

dude, every windows update feels like an assassination attempt on my PC. For 2 years after every update my PC had failed restart. One time I even had to do "manual" recovery of the system. Oh and once windows update somehow bricked my NVIDIA drives and I had a problem to restart PC in safe mode since everything was pixelated.

I use arch BTW (I don't actually)

@@austematicthatragic4352 Its Manjaro isn't it?

@@triniplayer6172 I've never used manjaro, I actually recently just switched to Garuda, they're both Arch based so very similar I think

I think anyone with familiarity with terminal should give Arch (or an Arch based distro) a shot - in my experience while it takes more time/effort to install and configure, it tends to have fewer hard to fix issues. With that said, for an Arch based distro I would strongly recommend either Endeavour OS or Garuda rather than Manjaro - Manjaro maintains it's own package repositories and frequently holds packages back, which can cause substantial problems with the AUR (user maintained packages) due to missing/out of date dependencies. I personally use the Anarchy install scripts - closer to "pure" Arch with a lot less hassle during setup

That AMD driver issue doesn't sound normal. How did you install the drivers?

Dude, I had a notebook with a very powerful Amd C-60 and it was good on kernel 6.1, what the hell happened to your card?

Agreed, I still have a dinosaur Dell Z desktop with W7, with a SATA hd, running acceptably well. Maybe slow during boot up, but once set, is smooth sailing. My next upgrade is a SSD which will be a considerable improvement as that has been the case on my W7 laptops. I can play Steam games almost at the highest settings, do Teams, VPN for work, watch movies, sports, have several VMs, and still today I have no need for distro, kernel or whatever mumbo jumbo. Comparing it to a car, I would say my PC is like a Toyota with around 300k still on original struts, just tires and oil changes. Thats how reliable my PC is.

port? isnt kde plasma built for wayland too?

Nein. The new release early next year will be, though.

have you even finished watching the video?

The issue is that Wayland sucks. If my choice between window managers is one where multiple refresh rates are unsupported and one where discord screen sharing is unsupported, then that's kind of a really big problem.

@@ExplosiveBrohoof Wayland is great, it's just that not all that many programs and DEs support it yet, and using a compatibility layer (XWayland) will never be quite as good as the real thing, which, frankly, sucked to begin with. I expect the Wayland experience to keep getting better as more programs adapt to it. X11 is an albatross around Linux's neck, a godawful abortion of a software package designed for a very specific moment in the 1980s where businesses and scientific laboratories needed GUIs for things like computer aided design, but most workstations were too slow to natively host their own graphics so X11 let them have graphics served by a dedicated machine on the network. In 1985 this made sense, but it was already obsolete by 1990 and we have been living with the consequences of dumb architectural details of X11 for 40 years.

Yeah Desktop Linux is way better than it used to be. I put Mint on a guy’s old Mac and for surfing and email he says he can’t tell the difference. He likes it

I definitely agree with you on focusing on one distro. In my opinion the main problem with why Linux is extremely difficult to become mainstream and popular among the average user is precisely the reason why most Linux users use Linux right now; decentralized, and extremely personalized experiences where the user has total control and responsibility over the system. When you uphold personalized experiences like most Linux distros does, that means you're offering users something specific and more constrained to a specific use case, limiting bloat. This is in direct conflict with Windows' general and standardized experience that a lot of people complain as bloaty, but that's also why most users who couldn't care less about bloat and just want a comfortable system to browse/write documents on choose Windows: you get what you expect, straight out of the box, even if you also get a lot of other things that you don't need. Basically, the reason why Linux struggles to get popular traction is because it's principles directly contradicts with popular usage. Which is fine, I love Linux for what it is and I basically use it daily alongside Windows with WSL, but you can't hope for Linux to be popular while at the same time gate keeping it to stay as it is.

Please, get an SSD instead of HDD, don't hinder your experience. Linux benefits from SSD just as much as Windows does. Also, good idea you're considering a second physical drive for Linux instead of using one for both OSes: Windows can be unpredictable and depending on your setup it could lock you out of Linux on a single-drive dualboot

@@Kris-od3sj Thanks for the advice!

Never buy an HDD for OS, whatever OS it maybe. It is time to move to SSD.

A year ago I removed my Windows 7 from a 13 years old laptop and replaced it with Debian 11 Mate, it works like a charm. Of course Debian isn't a good option for beginners, but it still had support for 32 bit architecture. If your laptop is 64 bit, then literally any linux is okay to make it lightweight.

Get an SSD you can get crazy good boot times on Linux with it

Do the BIOS updates in the BIOS, which is indeed also the recommended path for Windows users, and use OpenRGB.. which I also consider a better solution then the broken bloatware the vendors ship. Video editing can suck, but Kdenlive very recently fixed support for rendering via NVENC and VAAPI and overall better rendering performance.This should really help. Nvidia drivers are still problematic for me from time to time.. but everything else works quite smoothly.

The problem is people shouldn't be expected to do all that to get the basic functionality, even those who are willing to problem solve, sometimes they really need to get things done in a timely manner and when your OS gets in the way you tend to get pissed and uninstall.

@@ararune3734 Unfortunately that's just what Linux is. It isn't a beginner OS, and with how fragmented everything is between different groups of developers and components, it probably never will be. Linux isn't an OS for beginners, and I'd never recommend it to them. It has a lot of problems, and it's only worth using if you're willing to work through them. Windows/Mac are fine for the vast majority of people, and that's likely the way it's going to stay forever.

@@Jacksaur_ No no, forget beginner or not, as someone using my PC for programming I also don't want to deal with unnecessary problems that prevent me from getting work done. Linux is exactly what should be recommended for "beginners" such as people who use their PC as mostly a browser bootloader. The problem arises when your needs exceed that usage

@@ararune3734 Then many problems can similarly arise with Windows. I'm not a full programmer, I mainly just stick shit together and hope it works. But Linux has been a far better dev environment for me than Windows. The OS doesn't actively fight to stop me from making things how I want. It's all down to personal preference in the end.

@@Jacksaur_ I honestly wish that was the case because I prefer many things about Linux, but honestly in a matter of few weeks I've had so many little problems that accumulate and ruin my experience. I've had file transfer randomly stop and there would be no indication if it's going to continue, sometimes it wouldn't, could leave it for hours and wouldn't move. I've had problems with all flatpak software taking way too long to start (I've solved it but still). I've had constant problems with my drivers fking up when turning on the PC, a few times I couldn't even get the image, resolution getting messed up was frequent. I also had a problem where an update messed up something with my drive, randomly lost about 500MB of my drive getting partitioned and inaccessible only to later not be able to boot at all, reinstalling the OS didn't help so I had an all nighter fixing that when I had much more important stuff to do preparing for university. These are a few examples in a matter of 3-4 weeks. I don't know how that compares to windows but other than 2 random blue screen of deaths that happened in a few weeks, I haven't had any problems with windows other than the fact it's not as customizable.

Hey, that's what I am planning to do. Get Thinkpad X220 or X230 and install Linux on it and learn more how to use it. Before I used Linux on VMs only and i faced some problems.

@@Aleksandra1232 Try everything!

@@Aleksandra1232 I would say running Linux on bare metal just feels different than virtualized. Its good to learn on actual hardware.

When I first got into Linux gaming I was getting super mad that it essentially would toggle aim. Took me longer than I care to admit to learn it was a Linux feature and could be turned on or off lol.

"It's not a bug, it's a feature" 😂

Yes. A Gnome desktop environment isse, because gnom e just has to be Gnome.

I've been using Nobara KDE recently, and it's kind of like it's trolling me The first month i used it was incredible, nearly everything i wanted working was working flawlessly The second month it wouldn't give graphical output for an extended period of time, so i forced it off and that seemingly corrupted the system, i may have been able to dig in and see what the issue was but it honestly isn't worth several hours of my time to *attempt* to fix an issue, when i can just reinstall and hopefully fix every issue This is the middle of The Third Month now, and I've had some Graphical Issues, mainly things like Discord for who knows why; The KDE panel sometimes psuedo-crashes (It still kind of works but receives no new graphical information to display.), Firefox gave me some weird issues today where it didn't like having multiple instances and so would repeatedly fight for the visual data, and not allow me to actually interact with the browser until i restarted it. *Sometimes* it worked, *sometimes* it didn't and it's unclear why it should work at one point and not at another. Occasionally i've seen the comment that's like 'Don't use Nvidia with Linux', which simply isn't viable for most people. Also the updates on Nobara kind of annoy me, because it wants you to update like daily or multiple times a day, and if *any* system package is updated it wants me to restart, nothing else I've seen asks for that, why should i need to restart when [unspecified system package] needs to be updated. (System package in this instance seems to mean *any* Non-Gui software.) I get if it's the Linux Kernel or something in the Very Core of the OS, but one of the things that made me really like Linux is not needing to restart after every Update. Anyway, all that being said, the reason i chose Nobara KDE is because i *do* like the Windows Interface, and KDE is one of the closest to it that I've seen, mainly do to the System Tray which still lacks some features And Nobara is just Fedora with a lot of nice tweaks supposed to make setting up gaming stuff easier than on Fedora. And Fedora is apparently a pretty solid distro with a good update cycle (Semi-Rolling, which should essentially to my understanding mean that the Core is checked to be stable, but you still get pretty much the most up to date software with all the new features and bug fixes.) So, you could try your luck with Fedora KDE or Nobara KDE and see if they work for you. (If you don't care about the Windows look (I.E. The System Tray), you could try another DE like GNOME; GNOME is one of the most used DEs other than KDE, so they may pretty much be your best bets. I've generally heard that the biggest thing that separates most distros is Package Management, so if you got that down it's just a matter of Display Server and Desktop Environment. In terms of things working the best, that seems like that would be patching and stuff. I also find it kinda interesting how my opinion differs from a lot of other people, as i genuinely don't know what's user unfriendly about something like 'superuser-do package-manager install package-name' it's literally saying: run the following command as administrator, run the following package manager subcommand, install, package name. It's sort of like if you've ever used something like echo or print in cmd: run as administrator, cmd.exe, echo, 'Hello World!' (Run cmd.exe as administrator and type "echo 'Hello World!'") It's basically the same type of interaction just text-based. Anyway, nobody *has* to use the command-line to get most things done, except in KDE Dolphin which decides it wants a different way of doing stuff that's supposed to be more secure but is harder to learn and more inconvenient to use. It's literally just the easier solution sometimes. If you want to try to learn linux, doing so in a VM can be interesting, you can even make Snapshots and treat them as Save Points like in a game, and then if you want to dig into something, you can start to delete packages to see when it crashes or something like that, and because it's not your host system you won't fuck that up, and because you have snapshots you can just revert or Load your Save. Treating Linux as a game could be a fun experience, if you can find some sort of objective that you want to accomplish.

Debian 12 never gave me any problems, try it.

@@justicebalatensa After making that original comment I actually tried Mint and it works great.

@@Robit_Tv damn, that's great, what kernel version does mint use? the last time I used it was something like 5.15

@@justicebalatensa yeah it says 5.15.0-87-generic

Multi-monitor issues, particularly on KDE, are absolutely crazy. I had a bug where every time I plugged my laptop into my dock, it'd delete my entire desktop layout and give me the default one again. It'd take me a good 5 minutes to set it all up again, even after I got quick at it. It's a shame since Gnome has a bunch of shortcomings that really frustrate me too (extensions are a buggy unstable mess, for example, but they're the only way to get basic features).

i have an arch pc that is running same os for 5 years now.

Unplug it when pc is off

Wait until Gnome supports image previews in the file picker! That will be huge.

LOL. It doesn't?

​@@aheendwhz1I'm a total Linux noob but on steam deck image previews already work. Isn't the file Explorer backend gnome in steam os?

@@lpnp9477 This year, they finally landed image previews in the file picker. This has been an open issue in their tracker since 2004 or so, and a meme therefore, but they finally fixed it! However, I think that SteamOS, at least if you use it on the Steam Deck, ships with KDE Plasma. The KDE Plasma file picker always had image previews.

@@lpnp9477 SteamOS uses KDE, i don't know why they would ship Nautilus or the GTK file picker.

Some distros are literally nightmares with certain hardware but totally flawless with others. When I heard so much about Manjaro I tried to install it, and for whatever reason every single system font was replaced by gibberish random characters, so I could not get passed that because it was like trying to solve hieroglyphics just to open a single menu. And absolutely no one had any idea what my specific issue was. Other distros went flawlessly, but certain features were strange, and I know a few of my machines I know might have driver issues. It either works really well, or really poorly. And it can take a long time to get the right combination of DE and distro depending on your hardware.

​@@ghost-user559 This is so true. A lot of different distros use different versions of software that can sometimes cause issues. When I was on Debian I had a lot of problems with the nvidia drivers and it was a pure nightmare. On arch everything is really smooth and runs perfectly but sometimes (this happend to me 2 times) a library just breaks and things just stop working. So I had to find out what package is broken and the delete that package and reinstall it. Sometimes things just work without you doing anything and sometimes you need hours to make the most simple thing working.

@@alx1431 Yeah that’s the most frustrating part because sometimes an entire distro just breaks for no apparent reason and other times it’s a random package. Other times its the DE that decided to stop working. Honestly I use MacOS whenever I HAVE to get work done on a deadline because it works flawlessly 99% of the time and you can usually stay on a stable update until the next one is released because there are so many people testing each beta so it gets fixed very quickly. I really enjoy Linux and I’m glad it exists for keeping my old hardware going, but man having to spend an entire day or more trying to do something as simple as printing something or getting a WiFi card working can completely ruin the experience. And like you said it can just hit you out of nowhere when you really need your computer working and you suddenly have to be your own tech support and IT department. The worst part is when literally no one has the problem you have anywhere on the entire internet. That’s when I immediately distro hop and almost never look back like with Manjaro. Could be a simple fix, but it could easily never get resolved. In some cases it’s faster to just wipe the system and reinstall everything ironically.

@@alx1431 yeah, hopefully amd catches up to nvidia so it's almost 1:1 in terms of features as with AMD, I have had very little issues, and if you want a good experience, I'd definitely say use AMD, perhaps there could be some middleground but it wouldn't be perfect, basic amd display adapter and have all intensive apps use nvidia card (not sure if that's supported on linux though), or hopefully nvidia will embrace open source more or with nvidia open sourcing some stuff the apps will get better support and such

I have 120hz and nvidias rtx 3060, and i also had no issues. I think tech devices just hate this guy and want to be buggy specifically for him. Linux aside, i never had the issues he had on windows either.

The lack of good illustration apps are the reason I'm still on windows. I've mostly switched over to drawing on my iPad though, so I'll eventually swap over to Macs instead. Macos is what Linux wishes it could be anyways.

@@karenwang313 Switching from one intrusive, wanna be proprietary company to an even more intrusive, limiting, and proprietary company? You can't even get a battery replace on Mac without paying a very large premium to them to do the honors. No thanks, I'll gladly learn to solve and deal with the minor little setbacks in Linux.

I don't use any of those but when people keep saying there are no problems with Linux but then have huge compiled lists of ifs and else ifs that speaks for itself.

@@ararune3734 I don't think anybody ever says there are no problems with Linux :p

I have two monitors with different refresh rates and everything is working smooth as hell. full AMD desktop PC

Didn't Office used to work through Play on Linux?

SHHHHHH!!!!

@@justicebalatensa Sort of but not these days.

This is another reason I love the Linux experience for, the community.

Have you compared this with just using zram normally? pop os uses zram by default with a swappiness of 180 for instance

thanks man

Another Linux thing that should never, ever need to be set manually by a user, but should fully automatic by any remotely decent OS.

well... there ya go. I just set my swappiness to zero and what do you know. I have 32gb ram, and wondered why my cpu was high and swappiness was kicking in, with no significant extra ram usage. Didn't make sense. Now it does. Just swapped over from windows and loving it. Thanks man :)

Same, it is rather confusing they managed to have so many issues. Perhaps it makes sense on half a gig of ram lol

This guy probably has some kind of really complex display setup, like three or four different monitors of different sizes and refresh rates. I'm running a laptop with the closed nvidia driver with Fedora 38 KDE wayland and don't have lagging at all but as a laptop I just have the one display hence no problems

Booting from an external drive (or, on a smaller scale, live booting) is a decent way to test hardware compatibility without risking your main installation. I was daily driving linux using a small external SSD for a year before migrating to a proper one and had no issues at all.

Don't, Surface laptop is a Microsoft-made machine, not designed for Linux.

@@maynnemillares If it can run windows, it can run linux.

I guess u never got the memo that android is already open source . . . Just carriers like to tweak it a lot and change stuff specifically for their phones

@@dawsonpate7385 they didn’t mention anything about it not being open source

if i have two monitors with different refresh rates, will this still apply?

Or just, dont use linux.

@@username-du2er Make the high hertz monitor the default monitor.

you're all a bunch of weirdos. you can modify windows to disable telemetry and ads, and you can turn off updates permanently with reg-edit, and install a firewall that doesn't allow any data to go outside your PC except what you want. it takes less time to do this with Windows than installing pretty much anything on Linux.

@@junojan8414 Sounds like a good setup, you don't have to call people weirdos though over a preference on how to use computers tho lol.

My main question is "why is the calculator tied to the store?".

Well i partially agree, but nvidia doesn't provide any benefits in gaming over amd whatsoever. My friend had more driver related issues with Rtx 4070 than i had with 6900xt. I personally use dual boot on my pc. One is stripped down windows (ReviOS) with disabled telemetry, defender ,without edge and disabled updates . And other is Kali for a few reasons actually. While its popular among wanna be a hckr public as an web developer i use some pre installed apps just to test some things and second biggest reason is that it's debian. It's definitely MUCH more stable than arch and i didn't try fedora. So instead of dealing with bunch of issues dual boot is perfect combo 😅

wait, is linux not good for media creation? that's literally my main purpose for my windows machines. windows 11 sucks, win10 is certainly better but lacks certain functionality than windows 7 has, windows 7 is great but lacks support for some things that linux does support, and does linux make media creation overly complicated?

​@@omnitoneyeah, especially with plugin support

A year later, does Nvidia hardware still have issues? I am considering Linux but I won't buy a new PC, thats the whole reason I'm considering coming TO Linux.

​@@TehSuperHeroill reply to also get an answer as im in a similar spot (with an RTX2060) and a stripped down Windows "Ghost" thinking about switching to Arch (im a software engineer) I really do dig the customisability

Dude that sound terrible, you even tried Arch baset distros and Fedora. How did you manage to gain such a big stake of issues :O I am currently running ArchLinux with KDE on an gtx 1080ti. And i have to say, i ad some of the issues you epxerienced like 2 years ago. But now, everything seems fine. I do gaming, have my own kde customisations and an own workflow with virtaul desktops etc. This issue with two monitors with different refresh rates still exists. My fix was to disable KDEs VSYNC. Also one issue i encountert, since i have one uwqhd and one fhd monitor. The scaling is pretty ducked. Walyand fixes it but walyand has issues with electron applications so yeaahh my fhd monitor has now a 125% bigger scaling :)

Wow you tried a bunch of distros. But people like you are important Linux needs user's. Make sure to report bugs to the correct people. Make them reproducable.

I use EndeavorOS KDE and the multi monitor issue can sort of be fixed by putting (KWIN_X11_REFRESH_RATE=144000) in "/etc/environment" I say sort of because it just makes x11 refresh at that rate, so your 60hz panels will be at 144hz internally.

Yes, "each update something else broke." I am tired of deal it.

@@SuperTort0ise Yup same workaround :(

Nice