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0:00 Intro
1:28 Sony VAIO Mouse Talk
3:36 Microsoft Easy Ball
6:43 Appoint Mouse Pen Pro
10:00 Altra Felix Pointing Device
13:30 Suncom Atom Mouse
15:40 Novint Falcon
23:00 Outro
@jasonaviles192 5 місяців тому
My uncle was one of the founding members of novint. My father was one of the software developers. I have about 10 falcons still laying around my house. What made the falcon special was that it was an affordable haptic feedback device. Their competition would cost 10s of thousands of dollars and needed a very large and heavy external control box. The device was very gimmicky for gaming and did have support for major titles at the time, but it never really caught on. The falcon was quite practical was in the medical field and novint developed custom grips and applications for medical companies to help train doctors for the use of certain medical devices in surgeries.
@johndough8115 5 місяців тому
The main problem with it... is that you have to hold your arm up in the air, for extended periods of time.. and that would be extremely Fatiguing. I had written a comment on one of their Videos about this... and suggested they alter the design, so that your hand rested on top. Sort of like facing the falcon so that it was facing the ceiling.. but a little more streamlined than just that. Someone from the company replied with a very Harsh response.. as they clearly felt personally attacked, from pointing out the major design flaw (which was exactly the main reason why it wasnt heavily adopted). If the thing was mounted vertically.. you still would have all of the Axis control, and Force Feedback. However, you would have even Better physical control, and superior Comfort levels. It could have been both fantastic for Sculpting, as well as potentially used for Digital Artwork... such as simulating an Airbrush far more Realistically. Obviously, the cost might have had to rise a bit... but, when something is hands down Fantastic... people will pay for it, and it will continue to sell for a very long time... rather than quickly fading into obscurity. I feel that a vertical version of it, still has excellent potential, today.
@toxacid124 5 місяців тому
As I was watching this video I thought exactly that, why isn't it vertical like car's gear sticks? @@johndough8115
@IrocZIV 5 місяців тому
I feel like with VR this could be really neat.
@RandarTheBarbarian 5 місяців тому
@@toxacid124 speaking of that seems like a dope idea for a racing sim (or really anything else that simulates driving) if it was fully implemented. Imagine the hardware being able to automatically adjust the boundary for movement based on the kind of gearbox your car has, giving you force feedback for poorly timed shifts or grinding gears, or just clicking in to place unless a button is held to simulate and automatic. If oriented that way this could literally be the premium S tier racing sim shifter.
@Ronixon777 5 місяців тому
This product was so ahead of its time.
@scottmanley 5 місяців тому
The Felix was one of the devices NASA tested for use in zero-g, during development of the space station NASA conducted studies on the best input devices for zero-g. Mice obviously had problems due to their habit of floating around, but on top of that the ball based mice and trackballs really relied upon gravity to hold the balls against the sensors. They were all tested on a Mac Portable which had the best support for pointing devices at the time. This is the origin of the famous zero-g floppy videos ukposts.info/have/v-deo/pHygmHinjWl_0GQ.html
@KevwePatani 5 місяців тому
Hey it's Scott Manley! Fly Safe!
@casparhughey5651 5 місяців тому
That's why it failed. It was developed on a apple
@MrSarcasm101 5 місяців тому
Just make the mouse magnetic NASA. How hard is it?!
@jab9934 5 місяців тому
Fly safe and always check yo staging!🚀 Ps: You should have talked with Elon about this before his first starship flight test😂
@CheradenZakalwe 5 місяців тому
Hullo! From Fife.
@tymo7777 5 місяців тому
My grandfather had MS. He had very limited ability to do fine manipulation tasks with his fingers. But the easy ball mouse made it so he could learn to use a computer. My parents then got me one as a 4 year old. It was my first mouse! I grew up to have a career designing and programming computers. Pretty cool input device
@AvithOrtega 5 місяців тому
Nice! Do you have a recommendation for a trackball mouse? If you are using one of course, I am looking for one that replaces my old Logitech Trackman Marble but looks like everybody have abandoned a designed that already worked perfectly
@williamknight9379 4 місяці тому
I use a Kensington orbit with scroll ring, it works pretty well if you want the ball in the middle with a button under your thumb and under your fingers. My only issue is the scroll ring isn't "clicky" so some it can be hard to use in some games.
@agrisimfarming Місяць тому
@@AvithOrtega I have the m570 and i like it, it's discontinued but logitech made a succesor called the m575.
@DanAndHoe Місяць тому
@@AvithOrtegaI have a Logitech M575 as my main mouse for about three or four years now. I like it. Of course it took me a moment to get used to it, but it’s really comfortable and after getting used to it very intuitive. For shooter games I prefer a normal mouse, so I have one on my desk too, but for anything else the M575 works well for me.
@SANDVlCH 5 місяців тому
I’ve seen the Novint used for a lot of surgeon training tools, especially with VR - and there’s even a mod to make it work with HL2, as well as a gun-handle shaped grip accessory. Surprised this didn’t make it to the video, it was a big part of recent editions
@madhaha 5 місяців тому
I think Novint actually cut a deal with Valve to get first party support for several titles. I definitely remember that being the case for TF2 but I can't remember if HL2 needed modding or not.
@MDommell 5 місяців тому
Yeah shocked they didn't show the HL2 integration, that was the best (well at least most interesting) part of the Falcon
@SquidHominid 5 місяців тому
That isn't a mod, friend. Basically the entire Orange Box had native Novint Falcon support in-engine.
@bobbyboyderecords 5 місяців тому
Not just a mod but a real release for it
@1049662 5 місяців тому
Yeah I tried one at a science show demonstrating intubation training. My gamer sensitivity was complimented. 😂
@WittyDroog 5 місяців тому
I remember using the Falcon in a demo at a trade show and that texture demo was genuinely as astounding as Linus was reacting. You REALLY feel the textures of the objects so the sandpaper felt gritty, the gooey felt goopy, etc. I was genuinely amazed at the time. Dunno if that effect translated to better control with modeling software but still cool tech
@alexisrenaudin1017 5 місяців тому
Linus should've tryed Half Life 2 on it with the pistol grip, it feels so different
@AltonV 5 місяців тому
I got to use two of them with pod racing in vr. It was pretty cool
@alexisrenaudin1017 5 місяців тому
@@AltonV Now This ls Podracing
@wrt142 5 місяців тому
I remember this yellow ball mouse being kinda sought after by people with disabilities. My neighbor had polio and she wasn't able to use things that required strong movement or things that required precise finger movements and these mice were an absolute game changer for her, (she also was an absolute RTS beast playing with them)
@ajbp95 5 місяців тому
Was thinking that it probably would have been great for people with disabilities!
@Guardian_Arias 5 місяців тому
Honestly, I saw the Ball Mouse and I thought of my disabled son. As I Type this, I think I can use an older optical mouse and then print a frame where I can use a larger ball rolling on a smaller ball which rides on the optical mouse to easily achieve a similar experience. If I were to use a single ball both X and Y axis would be inverted. Edit: Looks like there is a Big Track 2.0 meant for disabled children, its 100 bucks. I'd rather spend 20 bucks on a spool of filament. Time to start modeling.
@cubertmiso4140 5 місяців тому
MS is doing a really good job with these helpful devices for the disabled people.
@mdzura117 5 місяців тому
Can confirm my school in the 90s had these for all us wheelies
@Nicole-pt4bx 5 місяців тому
@@Guardian_Arias that's SO COOL! Are you going to document the process?
@madhaha 5 місяців тому
Still have my Falcon and pistol grip. When it was relevant it really was fantastic: the range of sensations it could replicate and the amount of force it could put out was very impressive. Also kinda scary when it falls out of calibration! The support staff were great when the inevitable compatibility problems crept in. Every now and again I consider donating it to a cause with accessibility needs but given the current state of the company/software I feel like it's more of a liability. It's a shame the company tanked because the idea was fundamentally sound. Being able to spin on the spot like a joystick/gamepad player while having the fidelity of control of a mouse user was genuinely an advantage, even if you discount the fancy haptic feedback.
@PhilA.Minion 4 місяці тому
Up till last year when they changed the anticheat and excluded ppjoy I used mine to play star citizen. It worked ok but took a lot of getting used to.
@cyborgrat 4 місяці тому
A friend of mine had it, remember playing halflife with it (1 or 2 not sure) but was fun. Maybe ahead of its time. These days it would be prettt cool with gun force back
@FullMetalEngineer_ 5 місяців тому
We use a haptic wand similar to the Falcon in my research. It is used to simulate tactile information to improve control in certain applications. For example, in ultrasound, radiologists often feel around (or palpate) with the ultrasound probe. A haptic wand can be used to re-introduce this information when the probe is remotely controlled by a robot. This technology is being used to improve accessibility to healthcare when manpower is lacking.
@justinv3080 5 місяців тому
Honestly I don't know man
@QuadroKiller 5 місяців тому
Idk either man
@Ll3maFN 5 місяців тому
I also don't know man
@GoofyAhhDog1 5 місяців тому
We dont know
@JR_GAMING_ 5 місяців тому
Couldn’t know less
@icecreamdanwich 5 місяців тому
Thought I knew. But nope
@Logovanni 5 місяців тому
I still have my Novint Falcon (with the pistol grip also). I used it in Maya and for Half Life 2. It’s was awesome. The coolest feeling was when you picked up a cinder block in HL2 to do the first little seesaw puzzle and you suddenly felt the weight of it in your hand. Like, just that thing was mind-blowing.
@alexdavis9324 5 місяців тому
Does the pistol grip make it more or less fun than a light gun?
@Logovanni 5 місяців тому
@@alexdavis9324 there’s a curve while you get used to it but once you do it was actually really fun. The grip is modeled after a Walther P99 series and it’s very ergonomic. As you can imagine, it sucks as a normal mouse. Even the ball grip isn’t great as a normal mouse. The whole thing isn’t really a normal mouse replacement, more an input device for modelling and shooters.
@Megaphonix 5 місяців тому
it sort of reminds me of the custom Razer Hydra/Sixense integration Valve did in Portal 2. wacky input stuff in the time before 6DOF VR controllers took hold
@FlameSoulis 5 місяців тому
@@MegaphonixI still have that. It is ironically the only way I can do anything decent with the Sniper in TF2. As for Portal 2, it's integrated so well, it's almost broken and lets you do some insane tricks.
@quaticus 5 місяців тому
still pretty cutting edge even by todays standards
@MrFaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa 5 місяців тому
18:33 glad to see big papa supporting his little boy
@TheTechDweller 5 місяців тому
I remember seeing videos of the falcon and being super interested to try it. I loved the idea of force feedback for an FPS, it's honestly something I'm waiting for in the VR space. Proper feeling of weight and texture.
@AltonV 5 місяців тому
I got to use two of them with pod racing in vr. It was pretty cool
@Underscore23 5 місяців тому
I still have mine! I got it in a TF2 tournament. The Novint falcon did a tournament that it was pros (using the falcon) against Steam community members and our team won. EDIT: Should have done PORTAL, where you felt the weight of the cubes when lifting them. TF2 was widely supported too. It was really just very fun to use. I got the impression Valve was really helping with their open APIs
@Tophatguy_vr 5 місяців тому
First
@bhupendragurram3026 5 місяців тому
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@user-qp3qj2jv6f 5 місяців тому
Wow. They actually had support for this weird thing in Portal?
@marcfusch 5 місяців тому
Do you still have the original dvd with some game demos? I have access to a unit but I'm really looking for the software
@xythrr 5 місяців тому
Whaaat, that product was supported for that long? Are they still around doing stuff today?
@therussianbias3703 5 місяців тому
honestly if a modern version of the novint falcon came out today for vr shooters i would GLADLY buy it. Imagine a force feedback/recoil system like the one that has been used in guns like the vector but in a full sized and weighted accessory that you can play simulators with
@dongleseon8785 4 місяці тому
Now imagine sword fighting with that. No more swinging in the air.
@IrishLuckyy 5 місяців тому
My normal DPI on my mouse for gaming and for just general browsing is 14800… I felt attacked at 14:10 lol
@jmesen180 5 місяців тому
14800... Man, that's a lot, I usully use a DPI of 8000 for everything, plus Windows sensivity at max, and that's normal for me, when I move the mouse it hardly looks like moving, but those are statue movements right away
@Randomninja47 5 місяців тому
I would love to try that Falcon texture demo. Looks fascinating.
@Derpuwolf 5 місяців тому
8:01 “Maybe she was a little gripper back in the day” you can say that twice. 😂
@Chaosghoul 5 місяців тому
Stuff like the novint falcon is actually still in use in a lot of dental practices that are scanning and adjusting models for 3D printing
@MrBardofdoom 5 місяців тому
i feel like a lot of these could be used as adaptive controllers. its super cool to see all the different ideas people tried
@4RILDIGITAL 5 місяців тому
I didn't even know these weird "mouse"s existed. And they are expensive too.
@UnAngel 5 місяців тому
I used my Novint Falcon to play through the entire Penumbra trilogy and it was honestly one of the coolest gaming experiences I've ever had. Every item had weight, picking up and manipulating things was really immersive, and the difficulties of the controller only heightened the tension of the game. Loved it. Put it away after that and haven't touched it since 😂
@silentvoidx9267 5 місяців тому
I remember the Novint Falcon and how you could feel the weight of objects in hl2 when you use the gravity gun
@osamabinlaggin69 5 місяців тому
as a major half life fan that is freaking sick
@heretikmusic7054 5 місяців тому
I love my Falcon! I think it's still in storage somewhere. I spent a lot of time making game scripts for it with F-Gen, in particular I got some copies of oldschool games like quake and doom working with it. The Falcon was a lot of fun! Playing TF2 with it was also a blast, while it took a lot of practice to get used to, using it for games felt like getting a taste of the future. Like Linus shows, the ice ball really did feel slippery! I kinda hope we get an exo-arm like they were working on. It'd be cool to see that for VR.
@maxmouse713 5 місяців тому
Words cannot express how sad I am that the Novint Falcon never caught on in the mainstream, because that looks both awesome and useful. I can only wonder how it would improve with modern tech including materials and production methods.
@OtherTheDave 5 місяців тому
Yeah, several times I almost bought one, and kinda wish I had.
@Thailerr 5 місяців тому
Honestly! It does seem like it would add an extra layer of depth to your thinking if you were designing something. Feeling like your manipulating the structure sounds incredibly useful in certain worksets
@sirty2 5 місяців тому
Left for Dead owned with the Novint Falcon. I believe L4D2 had support for a hot minute and they patched it out for some reason. After the lack of support in Source games (I believe Valve was starting down their own hardware line at that point...) it crashed and burned. Sucked because the novint with the gun stock and a pair of VR goggles would own some VR.
@tjncooke 4 місяці тому
I have the LE sitting in my attic, basically new in box. What a time...
5 місяців тому
Okay, the Novit Falcon sure was an insane device.
@zakariaalkishik 5 місяців тому
Whoever edited this video in particular, deserves a promotion. Absolute genius.
@Tophatguy_vr 5 місяців тому
First 9:42
@ThyCorruptor 5 місяців тому
The shooter was at peak performance for this one too. Great overhead shots when needed, and the editor did so going cutting from recording the screen to a actual screen record in software without even noticing trasnitions. Definitely a great tech video. with cool novelty stuff . Also great video concept. Very classic LTT
@duchieu235 5 місяців тому
stop complimenting your own work, zhang
@ulize. 5 місяців тому
@@ThyCorruptorstill the editor, each camera is always recording, the editor chooses which shot to use
@n646n 5 місяців тому
Unlike Linus with Billet.
@scrub_jay 5 місяців тому
I love watching Linus try to guess the original MSRP of old weird products. He's actually kinda good at it lol. A Price Is Right style video would be fun to watch I think
@humane123 5 місяців тому
12:40 Seeing Vcop again is so nostalgic man. In my school days my father's office had a computer running Windows XP. I used to play Vcop and Roadrash on it. Those days were good.
@crimsonghoul8983 24 дні тому
Oh man. Yes. I had played Vcop in an arcade. That was a fun experience. Beats playing on a computer.
@leleudk 5 місяців тому
I still have my Novint Falcon with a pistol grip. It was so nice to use for Portal, and fun to use in CS Source, and set force feedback to 100%.. that big LMG shaked the entire table with ease! :P Linus, hit me up if you want to try it out with a pistol grip, it changes alot.
@Gunbudder 5 місяців тому
the pistol grip was unreal. i got to try the prototype for it when they were demoing it. i wish i had the money to buy one at the time! i still think about getting one lol
@HecticGlenn 5 місяців тому
I ran a Valve fansite for a number of years and worked with Novint to promote the falcon when Valve started helping them by supporting in their main games like Half-life, Portal & TF2. TF2 the Falcon was fantastic - I don't know if I would really think of it as just a gaming mouse given it has that Z axis style input too, it creates it's own category. I recall they made generic input drivers for most FPS's , it was really fun in things like Penumbra and you could feel different textures, open / close drawers etc. The best addition was the gun-grip which made it much more fun to use. I'm not sure if it still works but one of my best experiences was using it in TF2 with the Sniper's bow (Huntsman), you got the full pullback and release of the bow which felt super satisfying. I still have mine somewhere, sadly Novint didn't last long but the team were amazing to work with and our community loved their innovation, as did Valve and no doubt inspired other hardware input devices Valve have gone on to produce!
@201231 5 місяців тому
It stills works im using w10 a quest 2 and the novint falcon with gun grip and a 3d fps vest
@Lorecastapendragon 5 місяців тому
@19:48 "ewww, it's like putting your hand in the shmoo", I laughed way too hard at that, shmoo hahahaha
@Lorecastapendragon 5 місяців тому
someone needs to gif this, its meme level funny
@ahmedp8009 5 місяців тому
Novint Falcon is honestly a cool idea, if only they made it more ergonomic.
@henrikbengtsson6625 5 місяців тому
19:56 yoooo, my mind is corrupted..
@Villanousfats1 5 місяців тому
Years ago I did a day at a forensic anthropology lab where a PhD student was using something like the Novint Falcon to design a computerised cadaver hand with realistic resistance depending on tissue, tendon, bone etc for medical training. There was/is a lack of cadavers for students to train on, so a detailed computer model with a 3d force feedback device and a scalpel like grip would give them a chance to train freely without using up a finite learning resource.
@ProtesttheAntagonist 5 місяців тому
14:05 That's me... I just measured and my full left to right movement on a 34" ultrawide is about an inch. A modern mouse is more than accurate enough to get near pixel perfect accuracy with that little movement. High DPI usage isn't for everyone, but I've also never had an issue with my wrist or arm before.
@westingtyler2 4 місяці тому
15:40 I tried a Novint Falcon at a friend's house in like 2009. just like this. they just had the demo onscreen of a 3d ball, and you could change its texture and rub the mouse thing around it and feel its texture through the mouse. even a goo ball one you could push the mouse through, feeling friction like pushing through honey. it was unique and really cool tactile feedback. oh and a gun piece you could attach and fire, feeling really believable recoil. i wish linus had tried the gun attachment thing/demo, because it's pretty legit, too.
@stofio 5 місяців тому
I remember using my novint falcon with those nvidia 3d vision glasses back in the day. All dead tech now but playing portal with it truly felt like the future and it was incredible how immersive it was especially at the time.
@GreenLantern814 5 місяців тому
Oh wow, 3D and force feedback in Portal must have been a trip. With as many mentions as the Novint is getting, hopefully they'll revisit it.
@greg_one_izm 5 місяців тому
This sounds like something out of an 80's sci-fi, so freakin cool
@charlesw7397 5 місяців тому
The Falcon actually looks awesome. The fact that they had support for some of my favorite games like TF2 and Portal makes me wanna pick one up lol
@jorisbonson386 5 місяців тому
It is awesome, I still owned one having done so since release.
@EmmanuelFletcher21 5 місяців тому
This video was hilarious. this reminds me of the older LTT videos because it’s just classic Linus ! keep it up
@sinformant 5 місяців тому
That demo for that weird force feedback peripheral reminds me of the software demo for my Logitech forced feedback joystick I had back in the day. It was so eery how realistic the feeling of certain textures were.
@DozIT 5 місяців тому
I really like the MX Vertical, it is not the most precise - but precise enough for things like photoshop, RTS games, etc. and fixed an issue where my hand was getting sore after a few days of “crunch time” to finish a project
@ObiCalmYouKnowMe 5 місяців тому
I'm intrigued with the products but even more intrigued by the inflation comparisons. Mind-blowing!
@shawnm7680 5 місяців тому
I had a Novint Falcon and the pistol grip for it made shooters pretty cool. Not quite as precise as a mouse but definitely immersive
@pamew 5 місяців тому
2:54 I am playing this on my home stereo. Never before has ear mutilation sounded so well driven and precise.
@Claymore729 5 місяців тому
Holy shit I remember the Falcon! We had it on display when I worked at Micro Center about fifteen years ago. We had the demo software up and running where you could push it through molasses or around a ball, things like that, and the motors would push back against the arms as you manipulated it through space. God damn, this takes me back. The Novint Falcon just sort of disappeared off the face of the planet.
@Walker_96365 5 місяців тому
0:35 That being pixelated makes it so much worse
@SrinpytheMusicalTechSquirrel 5 місяців тому
2:46 XBox Live 2006 Voice Lobbies be like:
@FP_cool 5 місяців тому
:D
@pigalex 5 місяців тому
i could see something like the novint being good for controlling some sort of vehicle with the force feedback giving you a more "intuitive" sense of what the vehicle is doing
@dann123123123 5 місяців тому
man i remember looking at the novint falcon when i was a kid it sounded so damn cool to play fps games with lmao
@LPR44 5 місяців тому
I grew up using my mouse in cramped spaces and developed a claw grip where I only need to move the mouse 1 inch to move from one corner to the other with a 1440p resolution. Those miniature ones would've been right up my alley. And yeah, for this type of grip I need my elbow to be lower than my wrist or it is uncomfortable. I've tried several times now to use lower DPIs and move my whole arm but just can't get used to it.
@westcoastbrent 4 місяці тому
That was a great "on the spot" Owl! Nice work.
@Larry 5 місяців тому
I've managed to ammass three Novint Falcon's over the years, they are impressive. I've also got the gun attachment for it which was designed for Half-Life 2. Feel the weight of the guns and kickback Etc.
@sirforcer 5 місяців тому
That last 3d mouse made me think of the 3d connexion space mouse, which is still produced to this day. The space mouse is more for navigating 3d scenes and then paired with a normal mouse for interacting with the scene, but I wonder how well it would work in conjunction with the 3d mouse shown here.
@CaptainGockblock 5 місяців тому
I’ve used both, the space mouse way more than the novint. My university actually had a few in labs for talking about stresses in members of a truss structure. The space mouse already has 6dof which is all you need to successfully navigate 3d space. I think they would be a bit pointless together, unless you had some sort of voxel/volumetric display and were absolutely hell bent on using it despite how challenging/pointless it might be.
@sirforcer 5 місяців тому
@@CaptainGockblock right, it's pointless, but half the fun of this channel is watching Linus struggle with pointless tech.
@bbggakkba 5 місяців тому
I can't see this even competing with how useful my space mouse is for CAD work. It just looks so awkward to use for extended periods
@ssdrbx6180 5 місяців тому
if someone wonders can you use the 3d mouse for games, apparently kerbal space program 1 still have support for it to this day/last version
@kidsmack1012 5 місяців тому
8:00 so was your mom.
@xiChann 5 місяців тому
😂😂caught that too
@PaulMiles1 5 місяців тому
The Easy Ball reminds me of those adaptive Xbox controllers we started seeing a couple years ago. The ones with the oversized buttons that are designed for people with fine motor skill deficiencies. I work with a lot of kids with developmental delays and fine motor skill issues. I know it's a super niche user base. But I think it would be awesome if LTT would spend some time reviewing and discussing adaptive controllers and adaptive access tech.
@Dynasty1k 5 місяців тому
These retro videos including the mom and pop product buyout are pretty interesting. A lot of products I never knew existed.
@williamscott8227 5 місяців тому
I would love to see how the 3D force feedback thing plays Descent. Sliding 360 degrees was always tricky to set up with a keyboard and mouse. Not sure I ever really found good way. Friend on mine had a device called the Orb. It accounted well for movement on all 3 axis, though I was never proficient at using it, like my friend.
@scottdotjazzman 5 місяців тому
Yeah that would be interesting. I found two axes via keyboard to be enough for most gameplay, but if you're really clever you can make use of a Bluetooth receiver and PS3 controller. Lots of fun!
@abe3002 5 місяців тому
The Novint could work really well as a FFB device for sim racing for gear shifting to add a extra dimension to the shifting
@LazyBunnyKiera 5 місяців тому
i tried one of those mouse pens, and i had the exact same experience, it couldn't smoothly do diagonals.. like at all. great for making marshmallow shapes. That Novint Falcon looks like it could be neat for space games.. if it had rotation.
@Shikaku2 4 місяці тому
21:54 you would have to pause it after he hit the ball but there was so much spin on the ball and there's wind graphics that show this that it landed and changed angle that much
@TrangleC 5 місяців тому
I liked using trackballs for many years. In some games they were superior because they combined the range of motion of a joystick with the precision of a mouse. Playing games like "TIE Fighter" was great with a trackball. You could just give the ball a good spin when you wanted to do large changes of course and still have pin-point precision as soon as you put your thumb on the ball again. I would still use trackballs today if it wouldn't have become so hard to find a proper one.
@00Clive00 5 місяців тому
I miss removing the fluff from the ball compartment. Now the only joy in the world I have is bellybutton fluff 🤨
@FlyingCIRCU175 5 місяців тому
I play Armored Core 6 on trackball and it’s oddly effective. Not quite HOTAS or stick-level but still cool.
@tebla2074 5 місяців тому
my daily driver is a kensington expert mouse, love it!
@TrangleC 5 місяців тому
@@00Clive00 Buy cheap socks and spend 10 minutes every day pulling the lint out from under your toenails.
@girrrrrrr2 5 місяців тому
check out aball and ploopy
@Uzui_Tengen 5 місяців тому
Can't wait to put these in my gaming setup
@johanekekrantz7325 5 місяців тому
I have played around with the novint falcon it was fun and with the right implementation it could have been a really big deal. Think of it relative to a mouse as what VR is to a monitor.
@-FOXX 5 місяців тому
The Novint was meant to be used in games. So you can feel the door your opening or holding something heavy vs something light. It had specific games built just for it.
@himselfe 5 місяців тому
Honestly the Novint Falcon was a good idea, perhaps not the best execution, but still something that has real world uses.
@dragon2knight 5 місяців тому
This was a real blast from the past!! I owned the Fellows mouse pen...unfortunately, lol. It was terrible and pretty useless....more of these please ❤
@pivotgodxd 4 місяці тому
I remember when the novint came out, the texture modes seemed so futuristic and I still kinda wanna know what it feels like!!
@tecn0phreak 5 місяців тому
The falcon was so cool. I can see the ideas from that being integrated into a full body vr suit, which would be very interesting
@OrionKaelinClips 5 місяців тому
The Novint Falcon might be interesting for space sim spaceship translation movement like Star Citizen
@bootchoo96 5 місяців тому
Looks like the Esperia Talon pilot controls!
@RunsWithKniefs 5 місяців тому
I had some friends who bought Novint Falcons with the pistol grip for FPS games. The force feedback wasn't very strong so they both sold em for like 2x the msrp. (Also at the time they sold it, it was the advent of VR so people made attachments to mount "personal health" toys so the market demand for them also spiked)
@Pussalia 5 місяців тому
Wait, wat?! So people were bolting fleshlights onto them? That's fantastic 😂
@201231 5 місяців тому
Not true you can manually adjust the force feedback and break your wrist if set to high
@RunsWithKniefs 5 місяців тому
Curious Would that have been an override or a driver setting? Cause of course you can just tell any motor to do what you want if you juice it, but the barrier of liability on manufacterer's part n such.
@atacstringer8573 5 місяців тому
I've seen that last one reviewed before another channel it's actually pretty cool really great technology for the time
@SteveOnotsky 5 місяців тому
10:30 I remember, way back in the day, Logitech had a 3D mouse that was set up similar to the Felix, only the part you held in your hand could be pushed/pulled vertically and twisted horizontally (yaw). I don't remember it being able to pitch and roll but I remember it being a kick-ass peripheral for Descent.
@HeisenbergFam 5 місяців тому
Linus will not stop until he finds the greatest quirks of technology and I love it
@Johnny555_Arcaea_charter 5 місяців тому
here he is bois
@bhupendragurram3026 5 місяців тому
bro post a video also second herebeforebotscame
@ayanzafar016 5 місяців тому
10:09 Linus Bed Tips
@yaughl Місяць тому
20:20 Linus with the Owen Wilson "WOW".
@henriknilsson6427 4 місяці тому
Novint falcon was great with the pistol grip, I still have mine. A bit yellowed by now, but it works 😅
@t2wave 5 місяців тому
I have two Novint Falcons. It is still my favorite mouse alternative for gaming when there is haptic feedback. TF2 was insane when you could feel the direction the bullets were coming from or if you bumped into a cloaked Spy.
@tokill922 5 місяців тому
Max force + TF2 heavy with the pistol grip on. if you know, you know.
@MildMisanthropeMaybeMassive 5 місяців тому
Imagine the haptic technology of the Novint Falcon put into a glove and used with VR. IIRC Valve actually released some official Portal DLC exclusive for the Novint Falcon.
@markblue777 5 місяців тому
The Novint Falcon, I remember our Uni got one of these in for our Game Dev Degree Labs. It was an interesting device and something very different from the norm.
@rumista8654 5 місяців тому
Actually, using a pen as an input device is very comfortable! Just not that kind of pen lol. As a visual artist, i used a small Wacom Intuos tablet with my laptop for years, and i didn't use the touchpad unless i absolutely needed it. Since i upgraded to a new XP Pen tablet with screen i had to get myself a mouse because the screen protector and pen nibs got used up much quicker. I miss using the pen all the time, and i still have the old tablet working perfectly fine, i just don't want to deal with two different pens on my desk. And my desk is full of cables because new tablet uses 3 ports instead of one. (Also, that robot arm thing was ahead of it's time lol. Imagine using something like that in VR!)
@Kirsty_McKay 5 місяців тому
Definitely agree with the Intuous pen.
@npcimknot958 5 місяців тому
Osu players agree with you 😂
@kamiskub7409 5 місяців тому
As a high DPI user - the Felix and Atom Mouse look like great ideas - especially compared to ball mouse.
@jonaszb7631 5 місяців тому
I couldnt agree more. They may even have more range of motion than I need.
@Chipsaru 5 місяців тому
I cannot comprehend how and why would you use high DPI in a day-to-day use scenario. I mean, how do you even select a single character in the text when your cursor jumps all around from a smallest movement with like 15000 DPI? I find it hard to use personally with anything higher than 1250 DPI.
@kamiskub7409 5 місяців тому
@@Chipsaru I daily above 3500 DPI at 2560 pixel wide screen and despite working with less than 1 inch of space side to side I'm easily precise to edit text in Word at size 6.5 below which the indicator is too big and text unreadable without zooming.
@prototypedrakon9899 5 місяців тому
I remember seeing something similar to the Novint over at microcenter years ago! Had been looking for it for a while, could never find ir
@tradingelk6914 5 місяців тому
REALLY wish they tried HL2 with the Falcon. I remember the demo they put out with HL2, looked amazing
@joeltaylor7741 5 місяців тому
I miss Emily, she'd have been great for this video!
@mysterypasta7245 5 місяців тому
Linus isn’t pregnant but he never fails to deliver us videos.
@fireram360 5 місяців тому
Lmao 😂
@jakubr2769 5 місяців тому
14:53 I like how Linus tries to use the scroll wheel which is not there XD
@wuverul 5 місяців тому
I used to want a Novint Falcon with pistol grip SO BAD for shooters, seeing it in this video is such a trip.
@meestuinier4486 5 місяців тому
00:01 nice easter egg (420)
@Joseph-zh7fm 5 місяців тому
Man Anthony looks way different with shorter hair
@1R4MgMYl7a 5 місяців тому
not him man
@TheBloodypete 5 місяців тому
At the Bristol Robotics Lab those Falcons were used for robot and virtual environment control and feedback :)
@ShadowofManda 5 місяців тому
As someone who uses really high DPI settings on my mice (currently 4750 on a 4k+1080p display set up), the two mice that are mapped to have the whole screen in just a couple inches sound quite usable lol My DPI shift button drops to 600 DPI for fine control, like sniping in games, but is otherwise unused. I can't stand needing to constantly lift and reposition the mouse to get across my screen or to spin around in a game.The biggest issue is that sometimes the requisite force to overcome surface friction has me overshoot a nearby target point, but it is easily compensated for after being used to it for so long
@truebnb 5 місяців тому
I had heard about the Novint Falcon, and later ended up getting to try a demo at Micro Center years ago. FYI - the device was actually used (2 of them in fact, 1 for each hand) for the 3 season TV series Stitchers as computer inputs to control/navigate the memory stitch events.
@AltonV 5 місяців тому
Once I got to try two of them with pod racing in vr
@Jeranhound 5 місяців тому
I would love to see that kind of texture demo mapped to a VR force feedback glove, see what kinds of effects they could achieve with just rumble motors and wire tension on your fingers.
@thecalvinprice 5 місяців тому
I started on the EasyBall! That segment was very nostalgic
@joethompson11 5 місяців тому
I remember a haptic one at university like the novint. They had a demo where you could move an atom around a molecule and get real pushback where it did or didn't fit.
@Nick-rs5if 5 місяців тому
I absolutely LOVE the sound that mouse-phone-thingy makes. It's so distorted and shit, I need it! 😂
@captaincoffeecake3595 5 місяців тому
the novint falcon was awesome , i remeber the pistol attachment with HL2 . was very very cool.
@kuryaku5906 5 місяців тому
Would be nice if you covered the Azeron Cyborg. Kinda similar exotic mouse & keyboard video.
@TheMissingSockz 5 місяців тому
14:05 😬 I'm the person who uses a high DPI modern mouse, I have about 2" of travel of my mouse to span the entire width of my 2560px display. I find precise small movements to be more comfortable than moving my whole arm and mouse. I'll probably regret it when I'm 50 and riddled with arthritis tho lol
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