Perfect description

*Bravo Vince

Its crazy how the makeup changed vince so much. Truly masterful.​@@jnub3544

@@jnub3544 glad someone caught that 😎

Logan wasn't irresistible. He was charismatic and his few moments of "humanity" only made his monstrous nature more horrifying. He could've been a good parent, he simply was too selfish. Same with fricking Caroline.

in an "objective" way, yeah, but it's also part of a phase where he sees kendall as somewhat of an equal, so from kendalls and logans perspective, it's easily the most respect he ever shown him

@@Toxodosnah

@@andrewstephens5885 deal with it.

@@andrewstephens5885 if you wanna be serious, name any other moment where he showed more respect

​@@ToxodosI'm sure Logan telss himself that when he's feeling what passes to himself as emotional to feel better about himself

Did you have a wee cry?

@@indigohammer5732 you suck dude

I mean Ricky LaFleur easily has the best “fxck off” in tv history

Malcom tucker

@@jessbelen Malcom was so much more layered than just a simple Fuck Off 😉 but I have to say it’s a close one

Not to mention , Brian cox totally beasting this role

They go to college for this stuff, it's not that you're unintelligent or anything. But this is one of the best channels on UKposts still.

To add to what @andylymbo said, the person behind the channel also does a lot of rewatches to pick on these nuances. Most of us watch the show once and then have a cheeky rewatch quite a few years down the line. So you could do the same if you would dedicate time and effort to a particular piece of media.

I think its because there are two types of consumers - people who watch for entertainment. And people who consume for artistic interpretation. They are very different.

To add to this it's actually staggering cause even when he's gone he almost has as much of a presence then still.

Def agree the scariest part about Logan is that you can imagine someone like this irl homelander is a damn superhero lol Logan is just a fucking normal billionaire it’s crazy to imagine how people with that much money & power can get away with

Except Homelander is a child who trapped in adult's body while Logan is a fully grown man

@@margarethmichelina5146 No one's comparing their personalities.

Even after Logan's death, you can still feel some sort of his shadow surrounding every other characters. When Kendall wanting the role at the very last minute, Logan would've laughed hard because he knew, none of his kids deserved it. None of his kids are serious people

He also hates losing (like, at anything), so if the divorce and custody battle was another game for him to win, keeping the kids (their admiration, closeness, and future successor status) was probably part of that. Also, between Connor's mom (mental health care and death) and Connor himself (first pancake, no good), Logan probably knew the pr damage that him losing the kids would be. I can imagine him setting up photoshoots and press junkets around the Golden Trio, since they were born, to position himself as a family man, All American. He couldn't stand the thought of anyone thinking there was something wrong with him, that he couldn't get family right. And we don't know much about how him and Caroline ended things, but they clearly still hated each other almost 2 decades after their marriage ended - he'd never allow her to keep the kids and let her put her spin on how things went. He was obsessed with genealogy, genetic empire, bloodline monarchy. No way was he going to surrender them - even if he had zero intention of loving them, only possessing them.

I think his real-life personality helps him as well, if you watch interviews of him about the show he frequently expresses how he doesn't think Logan was doing much wrong and was 'helping his kids' lol

@@katandra8819 agree.

Touché 🎉

You are so fucking correct.

Is she...Logan Roy?

LMAO

Poor things coming next week

@@JustanObservation can't wait ☺

​@@JustanObservationgreat!

@@JustanObservation I'm seconding the request for Anatomy of a Fall

@@JustanObservation You should analyse the characters of Scandal

He has no one who really loves or respects him in his life. Willa is literally trying to get as far away from him as possible. hardly a win

@@erm492 Compared to his siblings, he's the one who's better off. Kendall, Roman and Siobhan also have 0 people to care for them. Kendall blew up his opportunities to have a family with Rava, Sophie and Iverson. Roman literally has no one who truly cares for him. Siobhan is in a loveless marriage with Tom. It's true Willa wants to be away from him, but Connor likely knows this. He said in season 4 he doesn't need love and that's his superpower. He talked to Willa about it before getting married. They seem to be stuck in a cycle (like every other character) in which Connor is annoying, Willa feels pressured, but she needs the lifestyle, so she comes back to him and reassures him emotionally. We see it when she accepts to marry him, comes back after she escapes from the wedding rehearsal or whatnot.

The minute you start.. it won't stop at Be ethically right Be vocal straightforward Be smart You'll live happy and you'll end up building strong teams around you (unlike logan)

“kendall is trying to snatch his kingdom away”. is that really accurate when from kendall’s point of view, he’s been promised the company since age 10 until right before the pilot, with even a succession plan in place. like that’s his father dude, at the end of the day all he wants is from him to be proud of him, he’s emotionally stunted from a life time of abuse. then, using all these weaknesses logan put in him, he judges him for it, not giving him the keys to the kingdom, literally telling him he has to be a killer. so, he tries to be a killer and what happens, his father blackmails him for murder. sure, logan played a card to keep his company, but it’s not black and white: “kendall is trying to attack”, he’s trying to earn his father’s lov.

Was that promise in writing? Like Roman said "Read the fine print" LOL - I dont care what he was promised at 10 years old. That is before he became a drug addict and adopted children. The idea that everything Logan Roy built would be handed down to his drug addict son, and adopted children is totally unacceptable. Peope change from the time they are 10 years old to their 40's. And lets not forget. Kendal was given every pathway to create success on his own. HE DIDNT. Logan is oldschool. He loves his children. But at the end of the day, he could'nt respect them. Because they didnt have the same grit and ambition. They merely grew up rich. They were given BILLIONS of dollars and will inherit BILLIONS more. Talking about this man like he is a wounded bird, falling from the sky into the deep blue abyss, is laughable. Kendals true character showed when he left that kids in the pond. How many other examples, of his personal weaknesses over a lifetime did Logan see? Promised at 10years old - You must be kidding.... @@michellejaxon5245

And Yes - Im sure it was a huge let down. But, once he was told that his father - THE CREATOR OF THE COMPANY AND HIS ENTIRE LIFE- was going to stay on. He had a chance to find out why his father changed his mind, and take that as a chance to IMPROVE. Why wasnt self improvement and option and "killing" your father is??? That is such a warped mindset that points to nothing but a psychotic level of narcissism and greed. At the point of sale to the Swed. He told his children that they will be judged and now is their time to prove that they deserve it. PROVE IT TO EVERYONE. And if you remember Logan loved ancient Roman history. Im sure the stories of Marcus Aurilias and Commodus came to his mind. What happens when an Emperor gives a Kingdom to his idiot son.... Commodus was the beginning of the end of the Roamn Empire. @@michellejaxon5245

Both of you are a little silly, here. Kendall wasn't entitled to heading Waystar, 100%, but Logan did intentionally give him a massive complex about it since birth. You don't get to have contempt for people exhibiting the damage you've inflicted on them, the complexes you've nurtured. Logan himself, isn't this God-king who was all powerful and filled with grit BTW. He grew up in ww2 conflict, but not in poverty, he inherited the initial investment to start building Royco out of an existing billboard business. He wasn't this self-made genius out of the mud - he curated that myth. His kids were spoiled, yes, but by him - and abused by him. He was successful, in canon, as a result of ruthlessness (untold bribery, govt interference, crimes, intimidating workers at scale and in his team), refusal to give an inch for anyone (consequence of his own childhood horrors, and meant he was pathetically lonely and sad and violent to people he loved all his life) and luck, frankly. A lot of Succession goes through how many poor decisions he made, and how much luck played a part - if Kendall hadn't killed the kid, if Tom hadn't snaked Shiv, if there wasn't a traffic jam on the way to a vote. He almost lost it a thousand times. He incurred billions in debt, protected evil men in his company, and refused to retire out of spite - even after pissing on floors, incoherent ramblings about dead cats, a stroke. He had zero emotional control, so his disdain for Kendall is laughable. At least Ken just ignored his kids, didn't hit a child across the face with a tin of cranberry sauce bc he lost a kid game. Also, and I know maybe you're trying to write from Logan's POV here, but the scorn with which you're talking about adopted kids is a bit gross, my dude. Drug addiction too. Put the Logan kool aid down.

You started off, super insulting. And I have no need to even read your comment past the first sentence. Have a nice day Emma. Go play in some other comment box. Im sure there are many others that will enjoy your condescension and superior input.@@emmaatkinson7379

I think you’ve misread all three… the fact that you recognise this is a bad moral message means the message was more subtle and complex. I’m always glad when creatives trust their audience to look deeper like you did. Give ‘the audience’ some credit 😊

@@TurbulentShrew What about those Terence Fletcher motivational videos?

that is not at all the message of those stories. sure, they succeed in their goals with abusive strategies, but that’s maybe a fifth of what the whole story’s about. do you think terrence fletcher will ever be happy? ever establish any emotional connection with anyone that lasts? i doubt it. and we already know what happened to chuck and logan. sure they “won”, but that’s the whole point, in winning, we realize what they truly lost, what’s truly important. some people, like roman, for instance, are lucky they lost, as they can now be on a truer path to happiness than the one that’s been brainwashed into him by logan. essentially, winning in business, winning in having created a star pupil, winning in being correct about your brother after your suicide (which he wasn’t correct btw, jimmy did the right thing in the end, he changed). these aren’t actually examples of winning when you take into account their actual lives, not just their goals.

Right and wrong is a false duality.

literally nobody with an ounce of media literacy would watch succession and take away the message that logan roy was right

PS. Next two weeks: Poor Things and Saltburn

Great, I'm have my popcorn ready. We watched poor things on the plane and it needs detailed analysis lol

@@JustanObservationsaltburn is below your level of analysis, what about anatomy of a fall?

@@michellejaxon5245 Saltburn will be a different type of analysis. I have yet to see Anatomy of a Fall yet, it is on my list asap though

@@JustanObservation wow thank you for responding, looking forward to it

I feel like older viewers tend to relate better to Logan, while younger viewers tend to relate better to the “kids.” Although the kids’ lives are not exactly representative of the average millennial’s life experience & struggles lol.

Logan is the protagonist and the antagonist.

@@JoJoJoker Correct

What a binary vision of power you're describing. Did Vito Corleone sell his soul to keep the power he amassed? Not in the least, even he had his red lines. So much of power is about knowing when NOT to use it, or for that matter, not let it degrade to the point of abuse which Vito was a master at. As a result, he maintained a loving family, loyal partners, and respect from the other Don's for whom he SHARED power with in the five boroughs. Michael Corleone (and Logan Roy for that matter) is a much better portrayal of the version of power that you're describing - ruthless, nihilistic, and merciless. So let us be sure, both Logan Roy and Michael Corleone are not "a bit evil" - they ARE evil!

Fear lasts longer than love.

@avocadoaficiando logan roy and michael corleone are very different from each other. Michael corleone is evil. He killed his opponents and his brother to keep his power. Logan roy wants his children to take the power from him. For that, he challenges them to teach them how to crush an opponent.

One of the best characters ever right there