Mr Socky is a rabid Alpaca in a ski mask.

WHAAAT - 2 great videos in the same week! Is there a long weekend around the corner?! LOL. Looking forward to the deep dive on Matter (although I am guessing that might not happen until it is more widely available?). Would be so nice if manufacturers (at least those that have committed compatibility with the standard) would update their products (at least recently released products) with a firmware update - would help with the adoption of the standard. Versus if they make customers angry by expecting them to buy newer versions of the same product. BTW, I hope you are OK I pointed one of your viewers looking for Smart Projectors to Rob's recent video on the topic.

I already have a Unicorn, thanks.

Bring it on Mr Socky! I'll rip your face off! Well... by taking the sock off the hand.

@@SmartHomeSolver watch out Reed Mr socky is good at that haha

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Anti matter.

Kairos!!! Love your videos

Thanks for the suggestion!

And they're on the right track. HA can already bridge any supported entity to any other platform like Homekit, Alexa, etc.

Glad to hear you subscribed to Paul too! Great use of the word matter too!

It's been a while since I've seen it too but I partially agree with Paul on it. At the time he made the video Apple may or may not have been on board with Matter but if they were, they definitely were not as much as they are now. So I think at the time of Paul making the video it seemed more of a hopeful wish that Matter would happen. Whenever Apple decides to do something adoption rate across the industry goes up for whatever that is (for better or worse on some things). Like I said in the video there are solutions like Zigbee already out there. I remember Paul saying that we don't need another standard because we have OHhh the Zigbee. I agree it feels like we are supposed to buy Thread devices because it's the shiny new thing. But with Matter, all of its benefits it can justify the need for change in my opinion. I didn't mention it in the video but I spent some time on the Matter github project looking at all the progress and it's pretty cool to check out. Seems like developers from Apple and Amazon are working on it which is pretty sweet. Collaboration like that is not easy.

I'm sure it will take some effort to get it started but it will be hard to stop once things get moving. After all, inertia is a property of Matter.

Truth is you will NEVER get Apple, Google, AND Amazon to all agree to something that has blanket requirements. It should still vastly improve the landscape and if you are like me using Homekit and Home Assistant then you are already operating locally anyway which is the biggest thing.

It won't be possible to make Matter devices that "don't work with each other," regardless of how you interpret the spec. I'm a fan of Paul's but he's either being goofy here or just didn't look into it enough. As long as your automation platform has the required radios and can talk to all the devices, everything is a green light. And every major platform is going to support it (Apple, Amazon, Google, Home Assistant). What one shouldn't lose sight over however is that not everything will be Matter, including Philips Hue - that is, their bulbs are supposed to continue with Zigbee (instead of moving to Thread) and their HUB will support Matter/Thread. You can think of Thread as pretty much an IP-based Zigbee and Matter will run on top of that - but it can also run on top of WiFi. And while Matter can work locally (hey, so does plain IP over WiFi), you'd better believe that some companies will still have cloud-connected services tied to their devices (Ecobee, Nest, etc..) The two main benefits are what was mentioned early in the video. Works with all home automation platforms: don't need to shop around for that special version for your platform. Easy to add to your platform: scan a code. The other benefits already exist with other products: local mesh, low-power. You shouldn't replace any of your existing devices if they're working well for you. If I had any, the only things I'd get rid of are cloud-only devices like Tuya, etc. And that really has nothing to do with Matter coming later in the year.

@@espressomatic same was said about zigbee devices yet we see lockout and unsupported device codes all in it. And the same industry players were behind it. (Minus apple I think?)

In order: Yes, No, Maybe with custom software.

Same. Looks like my Zigbee USB stick from Sonoff will support Zigbee and Thread being active at the same time. Not sure how important Matter will be this year, but I imagine it could be next year.

That's great to hear! Also nice use of the word Matter!

It's definitely no small matter!

That's not an inherent feature any more than it is with Zigbee however. So yeah, it's local so long as you're using a local-capable platform. So using manufacturer's hub with manufacturer's app might hit the cloud. Using Home Assistant all local. Using Homekit, local control but voice commands hit the cloud, etc...

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Yh to me it doesn't seem like it's adding anything new, unless I misinterpreted the video.

@@NicCrimson It's a bunch of old, best-in-class concepts, a little bit of new, all packaged together in a new box that everyone will support. So, overall, ya that's "new" and it'll bring a lot to the table long-term.

Watch the video again. If you've bought one of many products in the past couple of years, you've already got your "hub" or border router or controller. Like Homepod Mini, Eero Pro routers, Echo speakers, etc.

@@espressomatic I have mainly Echo dots 3rd gen, 2 Echo Dots 4th Gen, Echo Show 8 1st gen, 2 Echo’s 3rd Gen (New Version), and a HomePod Mini. TP-Link say they will not be rolling out a firmware update to existing devices, we would have to replace our current gadgets. Not sure about rest of the manufacturers. Only time will tell.

I haven't looked into it whole lot but the Connectivity Standards Alliance says security is a main priority.

Nanoleaf Essentials I think.

@@GreeniusGenius thanks! Found them.

I think when Matter is released it could be good to cover it more. Everything Smart Home did a video recently on it and did a good job if you haven't seen that yet.

@@SmartHomeSolver Thanks, will check it out! : )

@@SmartHomeSolver Definitely worth waiting for official Matter release and product availability before bothering to cover Thread. By that time so many of your viewers will already have Thread-enabled devices even if they didn't already know it.

HA already works with everything. Matter was really a solve to make devices that work equally well with the three big platforms, Apple, Amazon and Google.

Isn't the peel the only part worth eating on a cucumber?

matter is a new protocol coming out to allow smart home devices to talk to each other. you can't set it up because it hasn't come out yet. so right now, it doesn't matter

I have. I've been in talks with Homey for a few years. They were not in the US for a while so I couldn't use them. But then they released their bridge but it had a monthly fee. I told them I couldn't use it because of a monthly fee. I can't build my smart home on something that requires a monthly fee.