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2 роки томуSome objects, like paper bags, ice cubes, and pool balls, make an unexpected amount of noise. This can be a big problem on set, as any of these unwanted sounds can get in the way of dialogue. To ensure the sound team gets the best sound possible, the prop team will create silent versions of real products. Prop master Scott Reeder replaced loud pool balls with much quieter painted racquetballs for bar scenes in shows like "Friday Night Lights." Meanwhile, Tim Schultz of Prop TRX uses vinyl and fabric to make quieter versions of grocery bags, sandwich bags, and cellophane, as seen on "Entourage," "Mike & Molly," and "The Kominsky Method." Reeder and Schultz showed us how they found quiet alternatives to some of the loudest props out there.
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@nyashawarambwa5979 2 роки тому
Damn even the pool balls had stunt doubles
@monke-mk5 2 роки тому
No, they're paid actor
@AlessandroCDrums 2 роки тому
underrated
@bornofpixels 2 роки тому
@@monke-mk5 thats... what stunt doubles are
@4ce._.z 2 роки тому
@@bornofpixels weeeeee
@expensivemagic4754 2 роки тому
stand-ins
@nathankellogg2640 2 роки тому
I somehow never even noticed that these scenes weren't using noisy material. Now I'm gonna watch a movie and notice how many props aren't making sound.
@jackmccarthy2761 2 роки тому
Sometimes they don't even use any of the audio and it's all dubbed in later, including the voices.
@Klm49 2 роки тому
Me too!!!
@octochan 2 роки тому
If the foley people did their job well, they'll have added the sounds back in so the props don't sound fake, but at a level that doesn't interfere with the dialogue
@Insulted25 2 роки тому
If you didn't notice, then the props did their job.
@maggiem6209 2 роки тому
Something tells me I'm basically never going to watch another movie again without looking for silent props.
@nrgao 2 роки тому
As a musician who records vocals and as an amateur sound engineer, this just hits so close to home. I remember being 13 and walking into record for my first time on a professional microphone, getting halfway through my first take and seeing the engineer smiling and laughing outside while talking to my brother. I thought I sounded terrible. He buzzed thru into the booth on my headphones and said “that was great man. Now this time, take the bag of nickels out of your pockets.” 😂 my keys and change could be heard on the playback. Thanks for unlocking a memory! Great video.
@libsyates2426 Рік тому
Oh yeah, definitely. As someone who does sound stuff, I can usually hear just about everything. I could tell when my friend was feeling better after he had gotten sick just by the timbre of his voice
@DarinCates Рік тому
WASNT ABOUT YOU ..... Stop making everything about YOU
@your_dailydoseofcringe8424 Рік тому
@@DarinCates chill, it isnt that big of a deal to be using caps (indicates a strong emotion), they just wanted to share a memory they had flashbacked to while watching this. 99% of the other comments in the same context as the video; so please stfu bc ur talking like this is ur ex
@lightningchegg4823 Рік тому
@@DarinCates calm down
@AB-em8mf Рік тому
@@DarinCates jesus christ man it's relevant to the video and an interesting anecdote. grow up
@yungtown 2 роки тому
Love the problem solving. Major props to these guys. (No pun)
@Nietabs 2 роки тому
Burger
@notdanny4985 2 роки тому
Yes pun
@davidrocamora5109 2 роки тому
Scott(the prop master) has a yt channel Scott prop and roll if you are interested in props
@PunkFan04 2 роки тому
Scott would be proud of that pun.
@trippg3261 2 роки тому
I see what you did there… 🙃
@racquelrobinson3030 2 роки тому
I have NEVER thought about this in my life. Who knew a bag of potato chips needed a stunt double?
@princessthyemis 2 роки тому
Yeah!!!
@adammartins9735 2 роки тому
hello
@rizokahn 2 роки тому
Lays have become such a prima donna!
@iwilldefeateverysinglejust3826 2 роки тому
"I'LL TAKE A POTATO CHIP AND EAT IT!"
@FIREcrochethairstyles 2 роки тому
😂😂😂😂
@pingidjit 2 роки тому
Okay that explains why movies and shows with smaller budgets sounded so different to me. Hearing heal clicks, scuffs, bags and all the other things that bigger budget productions can afford to silence. This makes so much more sense now. I was confused cuz you're filming with the same tools, why would it sound different. Now I know.
@Native_Creation 2 роки тому
There's also more attention on sound on proper projects and better sound recording/mixing that enhances the audio.
@le-johnny9236 2 роки тому
Yup small budget are more realistic. Unlike the garbage fake silent shows. yes
@rainydeestar 2 роки тому
@@le-johnny9236 No, it doesn't sound better. Big corporation doesn't always mean bad
@pingidjit 2 роки тому
@@le-johnny9236 tbh the small budget ones, because of all the noise, are often too distracting for me to properly enjoy. i think big budgets not over stimulating us is a good thing worth spending money on.
@le-johnny9236 2 роки тому
@@rainydeestar yeah it doesn't always it's just is. tbh though I was just trolling XD
@Belgand Рік тому
I've often wondered why many prop bags of chips look so off. Overly smooth, the opening is too round, etc. They look a little too obviously like props. I always assumed it was just part of the process of making them as one-offs that weren't worn in enough or something but this makes far more sense.
@tlahmed Рік тому
Yes! I know exactly what you’re talking about.
@shrew6674 Рік тому
chip bags are usually cut with scissors in ads and tv/movie scenes to make the opening look more appealing rather than the sort of jagged untidy ripped open version normal people use to open chips
@SomeYouTubeTraveler 10 місяців тому
It also helps me understand why so many scenes can have continuity errors that used to not make sense. Sometimes they're literally swapping out props between loud and quiet versions
@naly202 2 роки тому
The entire movie crew is phenomenal, yet only the actors take the credit. Edit: Wow. I never thought this comment would get so many likes and spark a bit of a controversy. As for "Taking the credit", I guess I should have said "Are given credit". I'm not a native English speaker... And phrasal verbs are not my forte.
@melanieruddy399 2 роки тому
All them eager actors gladly take the credit for the lines created by the people tucked away from sight
@31oannamphong66 2 роки тому
stuntners are so underated
@thefrustratedneetaspirant7777 2 роки тому
They live a better life without fame But actually in the industry they are well known
@akieboygaming 2 роки тому
100th like!
@billybiljun3416 2 роки тому
@@thefrustratedneetaspirant7777 Having your life monitored by paparazzi 24/7 sure is tiring, poor actors
@yingzhang7640 2 роки тому
We need those quiet plastic chip bags in theatres NOW.
@RonLarhz 2 роки тому
True....
@kazuhoshiinoue2695 2 роки тому
The bags may not be noisy. But what about the chips themselves?
@artiemilano378 2 роки тому
@@kazuhoshiinoue2695 oh no no no, it's the rustling of the bag that you hear way more prominently. There's nothing more annoying sounding then a person trying to slowly quietly eat their chips. It just prolongs the shuffling ripple noise
@chriswright8114 2 роки тому
@@artiemilano378 yet it would be equally annoying and almost as loud if you were to dump them in a bowl. the bags would solve nothing.
@umloucobr4980 2 роки тому
LMAO..........
@hfar_in_the_sky 2 роки тому
I remember a professor once told me "Background sound in a movie is like salt in a soup: you can always add it in later but you sure can't take it out if it's already mixed in."
@marikothecheetah9342 2 роки тому
Amen to that.
@drowningin 2 роки тому
Lol you have debt & a useless degree. Let me guess, you serve coffee
@davideinfeld4815 2 роки тому
With soup that's over salted: pour out half the liquid and add vegetable stock! I learned that from youtube and it cost me no debt
@hfar_in_the_sky 2 роки тому
@@davideinfeld4815 The equivalent of that in film making is ADR. Which is doable, but a pain.
@hfar_in_the_sky 2 роки тому
@@davideinfeld4815 If however, you mean it is better to learn film techniques from free videos like UKposts, you are correct. To a degree. Techniques like the Rule of Thirds, the Kuleshov Effect, proper blocking, how to execute a vertigo shot, what an "f stop" is, those you can learn through videos and tutorials just fine online. The big thing about film making though is that no-one can do it alone and sooner or later you need to find people to form your team. Your friends can help, of course, but a film class is also an excellent place to find like minded student film makers. Is that alone worth what most colleges charge? I certainly don't think so. With the exception of community colleges, which are not only more affordable but are more likely to have teachers with experience actually working on films. Is film school worth going into debt over? In my opinion, no. I personally have no college debt, but I know people who do and it is indeed a high struggle for them regardless of their degree. Which is another reason why I think community colleges with film classes are better. Especially if you just want to try one or two classes to learn some unique skills and/or network. So, can you learn many thing from UKposts that you could at a film school. Yes, most certainly. Could you replace the entire process of learning film with something like UKposts? No entirely. But it can act as a good first step.
@BobbyDukeArts Рік тому
Couldn't get paint to stick to plastic? I'm pretty sure it's because they were really light and wouldn't act anything like pool balls when hit.
@grippyfemboy Рік тому
Hey Bobby!
@AgnesFML 9 місяців тому
Bobby?!😅
@Ezrara_demon 8 місяців тому
I really need to check comments now if this guy is watching the same things I do- jeez- Hi Bobby!
@tr_walkway1933 4 місяці тому
The paint was probably the easiest part of using ball pit balls
@mejhdhhicbfshihids652 3 місяці тому
If weight was an issue could they use metal cores inside the balls?
@haley799 2 роки тому
As a sound engineer the silent props and the people who make them are a saving grace.
@f8keuser 2 роки тому
Why did this movie cost 4.5 million dollars to make? Production crew: To make silent paper bags.
@Saltma15 2 роки тому
It will be fun when your mum is asleep,"Wink,wink
@qib1t22 2 роки тому
i dont get it
@f8keuser 2 роки тому
@@qib1t22 It's just as each new movie comes out the price it took to make goes up and up and when they show how it's made... we get this.. I was making fun of movies that costs so much to make and it went towards making props (it's a joke)
@qib1t22 2 роки тому
@@f8keuser oh sorry i didn’t understand the “it will be fun when your mum is asleep, Wink,Wink” im really sorry for making you type that out, thank you anyways
@f8keuser 2 роки тому
@@qib1t22 oh haahahaha all good, yeah I didn't understand it either lol
@thestrugglingguy5368 2 роки тому
I always wondered how objects like paper bags didn't make noise in movies. This finally gave me the answer I was missing.
@NeoLithiumCat 2 роки тому
I think I always assumed they recorded extra vocal tracks later
@cynthiaholland13 2 роки тому
I never noticed either. You are very detailed oriented
@FBIIlIlIlIIlIl 2 роки тому
you're the psychopath who notices stuff we're not supposed to notice
@jasonyau4725 2 роки тому
@@FBIIlIlIlIIlIl Anyone with perfectly working senses can notice it… just because you are an ignorant does not mean others are psychopaths.
@marsilies 2 роки тому
@Nstink They tend to add some noise back in, especially when one might expect it, like riffling through a bag. The difference is that they can control the amount and the level of the bag noise if it's silent on the shoot and they add it in later.
@Xavierpng Рік тому
The fact that we never realized these details shows how good he's doing his job.
@mintyyy111 Рік тому
totally practical but ngl sometimes i love the sound random stuff makes. it adds realism to the whole thing and feels almost like asmr. like it’s sometimes satisfying to hear certain sounds bc they help u become more immersed into their work idk
@cecefernandes5657 2 роки тому
Huh...I never even thought of this being a necessity or concern
@MakeMeBurrito32 2 роки тому
Ikr, Its crazy lmao
@MakeMeBurrito32 2 роки тому
@Sweet Cøffê .
@DarlaVaughan 2 роки тому
And thus the perfection of the art.
@labdjcxn3xy 2 роки тому
I could imagine as an editor it would drive me insane trying to clip together different takes but random sounds keep clipping into the actors dialogue. In post production its easy to add sound later but hard to take away
@bedahnim6188 2 роки тому
im just a leader from a class group and in charge in compiling all videos presentation of the group. and yet one of them always had her fan noise going off, burrying her own voice, damn. And that pissed me off. Its actually really distracting if one frame didn't match the other environment. So yeah.
@Takoiami 2 роки тому
The people of the quiet place universe: ILL TAKE YOUR ENTIRE STOCK
@piespies10 2 роки тому
😁
@adammartins9735 2 роки тому
qwter
@pixelmace1423 2 роки тому
*”ᴵ’ˡˡ ᵗᵃᵏᵉ ʸᵒᵘʳ ᵉⁿᵗᶦʳᵉ ˢᵗᵒᶜᵏ”
@Fit4C 2 роки тому
Jesus loves you all very much repent and believe onto Him and be saved from eternal punishment of sin amen, Jesus DIED for you
@noodleiswholesome5946 2 роки тому
@@Fit4C um
@imaspecialgirllalala 2 роки тому
Crazy, I always thought they could just isolate the specific sounds and mute some out. This seems like it’d be a lot of extra work, but ultimately better for the end product. Props to the people in the film industry for giving us the most pleasant viewing experience!!
@chasehim3761 Рік тому
My exact thoughts. They have the technology.
@rayonixv4717 Рік тому
Extra work it sometimes better work. Especially when it comes to movies, using the phase "Just do it in post" can lead to what is now the norm for Hollywood.
@zaclumley7553 Рік тому
It’s much much better and easier in the long run to leave as little in possible for post to do. They got so much work anyways, and it’s not always guaranteed to be what you needed it to be like if you just did it irl
@JainaTargaryen Рік тому
@@chasehim3761 they really don't.
@personwholovesyou4942 Рік тому
isolating individual sounds in a busy mix and having it sound transparent is actually much more difficult than you think
@basildraws Рік тому
I’ve often commented/wondered about the HUGE disparity between our current level of video processing versus audio processing technology. We can clean, edit, composite, green-screen, mo-cap, we can insert elements with rotoscoping and virtual rotoscoping, we can remove people’s legs, swap heads, and do just about anything with video and make it believable. But we can’t clean up a phone call on the radio or make someone sound clear giving a speech outdoors. It’s insane.
@illestofdemall13 Рік тому
There is technology to clean up audio, like Izotope Rx.
@MeJustAimy Рік тому
That’ll change greatly in the next few years I’m sure
@basildraws Рік тому
@@MeJustAimy I’m not sure of that at all. I took my electronics engineering degree in 1989 with a major in real time audio filtration. Processing has gotten a lot faster and chips are cheaper and smaller, but the underlying technology hasn’t changed much at all. As K.K. said above, there exists decent software for cleaning audio in post, but that has some pretty serious limits. And for real time cleaning, well, I feel like we’re in the stone age still when compared to video. Have seen what we can do with facial deep fakes for free with a tiny app on our phones? Or a Snapchat filter? Seriously, look at that, then listen to a radio call-in show. I know it’s apples and oranges, but still…..
@zlcoolboy Рік тому
The problem with audio is that audio will cover other audio up.
@Althemor 11 місяців тому
I think the reason might be that with traditional audio recordings, you get all kinds of sounds mixed together, and cutting something specific out is very difficult, if not impossible, since a sound includes loads of frequency components. How do you remove a sound from an audio waveform? Video is easy since you can precisely select that which you want to change. That's why I think acoustic cameras might solve that problem. In case you haven't heard of them, they're microphone arrays typically with a normal camera in the middle, capturing sound in such a way that a software can then show exactly where a sound came from. You can then select certain parts of the image and listen only to sound coming from that place. I imagine it would still be difficult to correctly identify which sound reflections stem from your desired sound source, but surely that problem has/can either be(en) solved or circumvented by simulating the reflections.
@tasnimtabassum785 2 роки тому
So much more effort goes into movies and tv shows then we actually can even think about.
@christophercrawford2736 2 роки тому
*than
@shadowbanned.5658 2 роки тому
Yes but are you thinking about how little comments there are? 700k views but only as little as 500 comments?
@moonchild8477 2 роки тому
@lia_berry 🍓 lmao ikr
@joekerr5418 2 роки тому
Guess you've never wondered why movie budgets can go up to millions up til now
@tasnimtabassum785 2 роки тому
@@joekerr5418 indeed I haven't, i just thought actor were really well paid, and the movie sets and travel costs and food costs, editing and etc were all.
@aisadal2521 2 роки тому
Damn, never knew the props in movie were specifically made to be soundless!
@haleyanne86 2 роки тому
Same
@MrThunk 2 роки тому
It's just saves the trouble of editing out the sounds
@victoremisho9432 2 роки тому
666 likes 👌🏽👌🏽👌🏽.... Nobody else like this please
@jameswatsonatheistgamer 2 роки тому
If only we could do the same. So Amber couldn't be heard.
@drogadepc 2 роки тому
It depends on the prop
@dino4603 2 роки тому
1:25 OK BUT THAT CRACK IS SO SATISFYING-
@dailyfuse2376 2 роки тому
It’s so cool how much effort these guys go through just for the sound to be right. You would think the guys at the sound place would take care of that, but they implement it into props! They deserve more attention for how much detail and thought they put into the little things like this.
@raydunakin 2 роки тому
This was really interesting. I'm familiar with a lot of ways props are used in movies but never knew about the need to make quiet versions of ordinary objects.
@iZetto1 2 роки тому
while they take away from the realism, they are great to have a nice movie watching experience without all the noise. oh also, you can notice that sometimes the sounds are added back in manually
@criscrosxxx 2 роки тому
Same
@mechanikalbull5626 2 роки тому
basically they add sounds to a soundless object and remove one to already have one, weird!!
@sandraswan9008 2 роки тому
@@mechanikalbull5626 not weird at all
@MrMR-sk8jm 2 роки тому
It was really interesting. Especially during the parts where it was like "you want a prop that sounds like this "......." not one that sounds like this "SckKSsskckshsklcsklcs". I never new something could make so much sound when it's not moving. lol. Love how they just looped the sounds to make those "noisy" demonstrations.
@kellisuzuki8889 2 роки тому
I only truly realized just how noisy all these everyday objects were when I tried to get ready for school while my college roommates were fast asleep... every open and close of any door/closet/drawer, every scooting of the chair or click of the keyboard, every turn of a doorknob and every creak of the bunk bed ladder, every rustle of clothing and bags...I could go on and on and on!
@EnglishDonutSchool 2 роки тому
Lol.. keep going i'm learning new words with you
@Diana__Simion 2 роки тому
@@EnglishDonutSchool HHAAHAH
@chasehim3761 Рік тому
Yes! My roommates dont understand. I think they're incompetent. Those are the noise that easily bother me.
@TheHardys01 Рік тому
@@chasehim3761 Chances are it's a lack of self awareness. Pity them.
@marinasaburova Рік тому
Wow! Props to you for being so thoughtful when getting ready! Most people wouldn’t even care
@GeeklingNo1 2 роки тому
I just... I love cinematography so much. Like every single detail is thought of
@xMrsGontierx 2 роки тому
I remember noticing the brown "paper" bags at a young age and loved the VERY VERY subtle noises they'd give off and the texture they looked like lol it was satisfying idk how to explain
@09mrbubbles 2 роки тому
It's funny the amount of effort that goes into making these soundless props, considering the amount of, equally bizarre work that goes into adding the sound again later.
@shadowxxe 2 роки тому
i mean the point is to make sure that the dialogue can still be heard when you have a sound that is louder than another sound it'll over power that sound and editting it out will damn near impossible. they want to make sure there is a balance between sound effects and dialogue
@09mrbubbles 2 роки тому
@@shadowxxe I understand the need, and appreciate the work that goes into all of this. Still, it's funny is all
@stevethea5250 2 роки тому
@@09mrbubbles which movie 5:20?
@filmfanaticx4212 2 роки тому
@@stevethea5250 Don't quote me, but I think it's an episode from Entourage. I'm speculating with the HBO watermark in the top left corner and at 5:15 I'm pretty sure that's Jeremy Piven...
@daughteroftheking994 2 роки тому
Jesus loves you
@tanishqahuja3861 2 роки тому
We can finally say, props to the prop makers 😂😂
@mace8873 2 роки тому
Thank you.:-)
@taylorwarren2000 2 роки тому
good one ;)
@beekidsart1176 2 роки тому
I appreciate this
@adys6185 2 роки тому
This comment deserved more attention 🥲
@thecrownedsim732 2 роки тому
Lol
@duyNguyen-fn9rs 2 роки тому
i didn:t expected that required so much effort to put on. Such a talented people
@MercurialMoon 10 місяців тому
No wonder why sounds in movies and tv shows always sound so pleasing
@CYXNIGHT 2 роки тому
Actor: barely moving Insider: "All you would hear is" KSSCHKSHKSHCKSHCKSHCKSHKCSH
@slapilou 2 роки тому
It's a bit of an exaggeration but they do say that the items are often held close to the microphone
@shibno01 2 роки тому
As soon as you try recording with a good microphone, you’d know what they’re talking about. Our surroundings are REALLY noisy. It’s quite amazing that we are usually unaware of it though. There’s a pretty powerful noise cancellation built-in in our ear.
@ABcdefgI143 2 роки тому
nah they're right. I have a p good microphone and accidentally left it on recording on my second-floor study room, went outside to take the trash can out of my garage on the first floor and the microphone picked up the sounds of the wheels rolling on the floor out the window.
@CYXNIGHT 2 роки тому
@@shibno01 Oh I get that. My mic picks up everything so I have to use Krisp. But their examples are exaggerated, that's all.
@shibno01 2 роки тому
@@CYXNIGHT Yeah that’s fair
@heimiticuellar4034 2 роки тому
We need noiseless packaging for our secret midnight snacks 👀
@henxinggan 2 роки тому
For when we try and sneak a snack without kids hearing!
@derekisludicrous9203 2 роки тому
@@henxinggan or when we try to sneak a snack without our parents hearing
@BuizelCream 2 роки тому
This is what people like us need xD
@plotsky3325 2 роки тому
@@henxinggan parents*
@garette8672 2 роки тому
@@plotsky3325 no, they are the parents lol.
@thechannelitrollwith1645 Рік тому
I’ve actually always wondered how they did sound in some situations. I just assumed the audio would have to be dubbed in all cases but even if that was the case, I’m sure having noiseless props lends itself to concentration. Super cool stuff!
@SmokeBloody 2 роки тому
let's just pay respect to the people that put their efforts to solve problems that a regular viewer would never think of.
@umloucobr4980 2 роки тому
Yes:).
@3_pancakes767 2 роки тому
Perhaps no one would ever think of it as they probably first noticed the problems.
@f.p1758 2 роки тому
Well if the problem wasn't solved everyone would notice it...
@fos1451 2 роки тому
We would notice it if they haven't solved it
@desireandfire 2 роки тому
@@f.p1758 how can you live with yourself why are you such a negative thinking pessimist
@Juiceb0xful 2 роки тому
Honestly if the paper bag was still loud in "Tammy" that would be 100% funnier
@hopper6094 2 роки тому
It would
@Bumpkin-bu6eb 2 роки тому
Cry about it
@Juiceb0xful 2 роки тому
@@Bumpkin-bu6eb huh? This is just a funny comment? You think I'm actually upset that they used a prop bag? 🤣
@milkflys 2 роки тому
@@Bumpkin-bu6eb what are you so mad about
@Bumpkin-bu6eb 2 роки тому
@@milkflys idk I thought it would be funny to see people react
@artisticanna5275 Рік тому
I love how genuinely happy Tom looks when he's doing the demonstrations
@MirandaMilner Рік тому
Something to keep in mind is that most movies and TV shows use a huge amount of ADR. That is, Additional Dialogue Replacement. The actors re-record their lines in a studio lip-syncing to the footage. You might notice it if you know to look for it. Sometimes the lip-syncing is pretty questionable 😂
@idk29484 Рік тому
Like Teddy Daniels from the Shutter Island for example. The scene where he pick his children up from the river.
@citricdolphin336 Рік тому
Your description of ADR is pretty good, but it actually stands for "Automated Dialogue Replacement;" the use of software to assist in the process you described.
@MirandaMilner Рік тому
@@citricdolphin336 Oops, my bad! My dad went to film school and he told me that's what it stood for, but I guess he just remembered it wrong. Or perhaps it's different depending on the place. I found at least two examples that called it Additional Dialogue Replacement. Another even said it's called "Automated or Additional Dialogue Replacement". So the first word seems to be either of the two.
@MirandaMilner Рік тому
@@citricdolphin336 But I'll fix it to say "Replacement" because "Recording" does appear to be incorrect.
@ScottPropandRoll 2 роки тому
Thanks to Insider for letting me be a part of this!! I’ve got a lot of prop secrets on my channel if y’all get a chance, check em out!
@GrandHighGamer 2 роки тому
And a solid 2-to-1 ratio of terrible puns to excellent props.
@ScottPropandRoll 2 роки тому
@@GrandHighGamer You ain’t lyin’
@sauravnayak5927 2 роки тому
Now just to find a way to get those prop chips bags to theatres
@sasguerilla9119 2 роки тому
So I’m curious, why not just soften the sounds of the real thing via editing? Wouldn’t it be cheaper/easier?
@jokubask5309 2 роки тому
@@sasguerilla9119 it's hard to make them quiet if there are few sounds going on the same time
@CrazyPangolinLady 2 роки тому
When you do something right, people won’t know you’ve done anything at all.
@MsSphinx91 2 роки тому
Yes, this is often why good work can go unappreciated.
@andrasadam8256 2 роки тому
Not just in movies, I experience this as a software dev too. Everything works 99% of the time, but just once something doesn't go the way the user expects it, and we are lazy incompetent f*cks who can't do their job right. Nobody notices the hard work that goes in there.
@vegeta4693214 2 роки тому
That's what my sound teacher said (I study filmmaking) "You know a movie has good sound when you're not paying attention to the sound"
@bmxscape 2 роки тому
@@andrasadam8256 maybe you shouldn't be lazy and actually test your product? i don't see the comparison between hundred million dollar movie production and you coding minecraft mods
@johnapple6646 2 роки тому
@@bmxscape don't talk about what you don't know kid
@mitskiluvr420 Рік тому
i love the quiet pride on his face. you can tell he enjoys his job.
@rileytat123 11 місяців тому
we need these silent props in everyday life
@papaya388 2 роки тому
The trick here is that they don't want the props to mask the dialogue, so in post production those sounds are edited back in. The result is a good balance between "touch-sounds" and dialogue - you will still hear the intended sound of the props!
@neonoir__ 2 роки тому
Or if the prop is unnervingly quiet like silicone ice cubes in a closeup scene with dialogue, sounds of real icecubes clinking against glasses can be added in post and made to be appropriate volume
@katherinec6031 2 роки тому
Yeah bad sound mixing is such a movie killer. Best not to risk it, even though it takes greater pre and post production planning-a ounce of preparation is definitely worth a pound of cure!
@herbderbler1585 2 роки тому
"Yo dawg, I heard you like sound effects in your movie so we took all the sound effects out of your movie so we could put sound effects in your movie." It sounds like a huge pain in the arse, but it's definitely worth it in the end to have total control over how and when every sound presents itself.
@virtualassistantel1853 2 роки тому
the foley artists are underappreciated
@sundhaug92 2 роки тому
@@herbderbler1585 Especially since the alternatives are either bad sound or reshooting an entire scene because a cube of ice didn't sound just right
@SuperWiiBros08 2 роки тому
Ok that's freaking neat, I never realized that on many shows I've watched
@dunmo9582 2 роки тому
hello
@Arathunter 2 роки тому
Huh
@phaserxultraviolet1694 2 роки тому
sussy baka
@jsmliu2003 2 роки тому
when the impersonator aged 45 and named joe is being suspicious by doing actions that make crew mates think he is suspicious
@cleanlens 2 роки тому
me eating popcorn and like popcorn
@lildebbie1062 Рік тому
I knew that they added sound effects in films for certain props but I didn't know they made silent props, thats crazy
@bettercalldelta Рік тому
Major props to the crew for making this
@LuckyNako 2 роки тому
Gotta say the people working in the ‘back’ are the unsung hero’s sometimes to make the entertainment we love into what it’s is. Like I’m amazed cause I never thought about that and I’m really sensitive to sounds. It’s so cool.
@mace8873 2 роки тому
Thank you.:-)
@hijodelaisla275 2 роки тому
Hero's what?
@getonthecrossanddontlookba5004 2 роки тому
Repent to Jesus Christ!!!
@hijodelaisla275 2 роки тому
@@getonthecrossanddontlookba5004 That's Jesus H. Christ to you.
@cromulom2223 2 роки тому
@@getonthecrossanddontlookba5004 imma rub one out to jesus
@timno2639 2 роки тому
So that's why some dryed leafs look rly crunchy but arnt... Theyr just test props
@zaneyboy7591 2 роки тому
@Scom Tott ya ain't funny
@user-em6ks9eu7l 2 роки тому
@Scom Tott what is there to even explain further? you're not clever.
@forgor4410 2 роки тому
@Scom Tott Scram, Scom. You know when you're not wanted.
@user-em6ks9eu7l 2 роки тому
@Scom Tott yeah? that much was obvious, and no one needs you to explain that. if you think we're triggered, you're greatly overestimating your own self-importance.
@rikosama7648 2 роки тому
@Scom Tottignore them they are bunch of teens , ur comment was kinda funny and i giggled a little.
@CasualKillZz Рік тому
I love Scott’s UKposts channel, his dad jokes are just 🤌🏻 chefs kiss
@adrianne7882 Рік тому
Wow. I have never thought about all the noise every day objects would make in a film. This is so cool!!!
@MurcuryEntertainment 2 роки тому
Literally the opposite of a foley artist.
@MannyBrum 2 роки тому
ASMRtist.
@ZaneDalton 2 роки тому
That’s what I was thinking!
@bikeny 2 роки тому
@@ZaneDalton Me too. My friend Solange is a foley editor and over the years, she's told me the kinds of things they do to get things right. Footsteps are a trip.
@Foolish188 2 роки тому
Listening to an early episode of the Dragnet Radio Series, there was a scene where the Detectives are searching in some brush on a hill. The Foley Artist made them sound like they were walking down the hall of the Police Station, lol.
@samuraiboi2735 2 роки тому
Well i dont know much about a foley artist but okay i guess goley artists make alot of sound
@KNOTTYBUDS 2 роки тому
I feel like the scene would've been funnier if Tammie's bags were crinkling
@alexthemoron 2 роки тому
Glad I wasn’t the only one thinking this 🤣
@jamiejoygatto 2 роки тому
SAME!!
@gileee 2 роки тому
Good point
@user-hm8yu3gm8k 2 роки тому
Yeah I was thinking the same
@funfoxvlad7309 2 роки тому
Yesss
@ykiikii 2 роки тому
I never thought about how they manage these problems. Interesting video!
@elliecee2034 2 роки тому
Shows how important set and backstage people are! Love learning about this!
@gil.gosseyn4786 2 роки тому
The irony is that the prop man takes the sound of objects out, while the Foley artist works to put it back in.
@LordBhorak 2 роки тому
But that's kinda like buying pre-flavored/spiced food vs. raw ingredients and adding the spices you want. Latter is always better, if you know what you're doing. 😊
@juanin200 2 роки тому
That's because "natural" sounding objects can sometimes ruin the dialogues, at the end of the day microphones can only let so many sound waves in at once
@Watermelon_Man 2 роки тому
@@juanin200 I think he gets that from watching the video. It’s just funny that they work so hard to take out natural sound (because it’s troublesome) just to (sometimes) work to recreate it afterwards.
@Darkerfoxtech 2 роки тому
@@Watermelon_Man it's more funny that they take it out to put some other sound effect in or music at 1m dbl so you can't hear the whispering lines. It's like audible lens flare.
@asymsolutions 2 роки тому
@@Watermelon_Man This, to explain better for those interested, it's because microphones don't mimic human hearing perfectly, nor do sound systems produce it volumetrically in a 3d space like the scene, and so it creates an issue with the scene becoming unbelievable as the sound isn't properly fitting what the eye sees. They are trying to reproduce sounds or at least what our mind thinks should be the sound, as best as they can. The unfortunate part causing the "Reality is unrealistic" trope we all know. This (outside of the trope result) is a current problem in comms with electronic hearing protection in both combat, sports shooting, and aviation , where it is in the best interest to capture and reproduce sounds such as footsteps, certain impacts, vocal noises, etc; Yet limit constant noises just as wind, turbine combustion or things that are loud enough you can still discern direction even with them being muffled (explosions and gunfire). The best systems are semi-reliable (David Clark, Bose, and 3M through their comtac series), the middle ground is not protective of your hearing (active-noise cancellation systems as used by samsung and apple) and the cheapest just cut out the microphone above a certian DB such as walker and howard leight sets.
@Waccoon 2 роки тому
...and then the foley people have to put all the missing sounds back in. Feel the magic!
@13Kr4zYAzN13 2 роки тому
Now that I think about it, I guess this is the whole reason Foley artists _HAVE_ a job 🤔 lol
@rsolsjo 2 роки тому
Yeah but mix it and time it the way they like.
@NotMe-fb8cw 2 роки тому
They would still have a job with animated movies though
@princessthyemis 2 роки тому
Yeah!! Wow!!!
@Mothman_In_a_T-Pose 2 роки тому
Yup. The film industry is all about perfection, and if that means innovating props to remove sound then adding it back in precisely how they want it, then so be it.
@Jonathan_Doe_ Рік тому
I feel like some films have made use of switching silent props to loud ones for effect (like a character suddenly hyper focusing on their environment, or the room dropping silent, and the normal noises becoming audible without the speech there). It’s usually done that well I can’t think of a specific example though.
@switchunboxing Рік тому
It’s all done in post. Foot steps, doors opening and closing, setting objects down. Humming of computers and ambient noise
@Jonathan_Doe_ Рік тому
@@switchunboxing Foley artists are genius
@raycho7785 2 роки тому
This is something I literally never would've thought about or known about, fascinating!!
@generalpershingm2656 2 роки тому
I can imagine how tough it was to make those silent props for "A Quiet Place"
@nameunknown007 2 роки тому
I'm thinking if there are no dialogues in the scene, the sound man doesn't need to catch anything
@99dazemusic 2 роки тому
There wouldn’t need to be silent props? Anything that makes a sound is used in the plot
@BoomBamBopPOW 2 роки тому
@@99dazemusic at that point, however, with no dialogue, the sound man can sample the area and cover all sound with that. it doesn’t mean everything actually needs to be quiet. the dialogue is the hard part, with no dialogue, all you need is a long sample of what the area sounds like.
@kioshekat7931 2 роки тому
this man is a genius. I wish my technical theater program had more prop focus classes.
@Muffienuggets 8 місяців тому
This is really cool, I had no idea how much stuff went into making movies and shows.
@MsGenXodus 2 роки тому
I've done quite a bit of work as an extra, and all the little details are just mind blowing! I worked on one scene that the final edit was less than 3 minutes long, but we were on set for 3 days and each day was over 12 hours.
@aurora5481 2 роки тому
Adverts are fun too. A little over a hundred people, eight and a half hours on location, for two shots that ended up being played for a _second_ after being sped up for the montage rewind effect.
@milicastefanovic1380 2 роки тому
what movie girll
@shinichigojir12 2 роки тому
How is that profitable though? Or is it always profitable spending that amount of resources?
@KKortez 2 роки тому
@@mace8873 Non-union background actors are paid minimum wage here in Vancouver, which is $15.20 an hour, then x1.5 after 8 hours, then x2 after 12 hours. Most shoots go overtime. It's not great pay, but it's not horrible either, especially if you're getting gigs regularly. If you do make it into the union though, you get paid $26.59 an hour with a minimum of 8 hours paid (that's $212.70 even if you work for just 2 hours), and the same overtime upgrades apply, so after 12 hours you're getting paid $53.18 an hour.
@newagain9964 2 роки тому
Did that director know what they were doing?
@DarthScosha 2 роки тому
This has been eye opening, I always thought that some poor sound editor would have to go through all the footage taking out all the unwanted sounds. I guess to an extent they still do, but this must make their job a lot easier.
@georgesikorski9891 2 роки тому
It's actually really really hard to take a sound out (especially if there's another sound over it) and it never works perfectly. Which is why they do this
@charlynikodemski9837 Рік тому
i love how tim looks so happy
@Kodaav 2 роки тому
Absolutely amazing, I realized some sounds in movies should be way more bothering than the are but didn't know the secret to it 😯
@47buddhists97 2 роки тому
*He was probably the only kid to not get caught eating chips in class*
@the_spider_7773 2 роки тому
WE NEED SILENT CHIPS SO WHEN YOU WATCH A VIDEO WHILE EATING THEM,YOU CAN ACTUALLY HEAR THE VIDEO
@paracame8162 2 роки тому
@@the_spider_7773 just eat soggy chips
@user-ih4fd9sf8x 2 роки тому
@@paracame8162 ew? Lol
@47buddhists97 2 роки тому
@@paracame8162 maybe chip flavored popcorn?
@gatlina6019 2 роки тому
Imagine buying a silent bag of chips just so people wouldn't hear you in the kitchen at 3am
@ImNotaRussianBot 2 роки тому
These people are real, right? Cause I live alone.
@ALivingFlame 2 роки тому
Just transfer the chips to a big Ziploc bag, that's what I do 😁
@NaturalAegyo 2 роки тому
Would be smart for the movie theater!
@TheasINChannel 2 роки тому
@@ImNotaRussianBot those people are actually real (me too)
@k2bny 2 роки тому
Genius.
@justt.tiya17 2 роки тому
Props to the prop maker for coming up with the solutions for these!! hehe get it?-
@elizabethm7163 Рік тому
This was one of the most joyful videos I've seen in a while 😂 Seriously, so delightful. It's so cool!
@TheGuyWhoIsSitting 2 роки тому
“Real cows don’t look like cows on film, so we paint horses to look like cows” “What do you do when you want to show horses on film?” “We usually glue some cats together”
@popxcat 2 роки тому
HAHAHA UNDERRATED 🤚
@Catty693 2 роки тому
I’m 500th like
@elation.e 2 роки тому
683rd like for this comment
@911HRW 2 роки тому
@@elation.e sad
@juanrounds 2 роки тому
The 900th like 🤝
@catboynestormakhno2694 2 роки тому
Why can't this be an everyday thing, just having more silent things in general I'd love that
@reva7825 2 роки тому
It's all fun until u get silicone instead of ice in ur drink.
@nyxx1923 2 роки тому
@@reva7825 IM DECEASED 💀💀💀
@weberman173 2 роки тому
@@reva7825 i mean, ignoring the fact there is fod safe silicone? as long as they dont directly eat the silicone nothing will happen, except it not being a cold drink. also to the original question, Costs. Paperbags exist becasue they are relativly cheap to made(less cheap then plastic bags, but still cheap) using this material woudl make it more expensive etc
@ADCFproductions 2 роки тому
so a paper bag instead of costing 10 cents it would cost 10 dollars, sounds reasonable...
@pascalpaul5339 2 роки тому
or an anti-hearing aid that can temporarily make u semi deaf or as deaf as u wanna be ...damn.
@sir.crayons 2 роки тому
I didnt even realize this would be an issue until now!! I just dont really notice the loudness of everyday things. Props (pun intended) to them for finding good ways to solve these!!
@pettymayonnaise7573 2 роки тому
i was absolutely floored with the ice one
@snorlaxcock6473 2 роки тому
Imagine being a “prop master”. What an absolute tank.
@3um 2 роки тому
at least I understand why filming movies and shows is so expensive now
@petiertje 2 роки тому
Well, that and the main actors salary I bet :)
@sitter2207 2 роки тому
Yeah main actors make dumb money
@madman1128 2 роки тому
@@petiertje I mean that and if you sit and watch the end credits of basically any film it's usually jaw dropping how many people worked on it
@SirKolass 2 роки тому
Bruh this is hardly the expensive part.
@warmsnow 2 роки тому
I didn't know this this is insane 😂 amazing details and work I'm Really impressed
@lwdrd 2 роки тому
I like how he looks so happy unfolding a paper bag.
@joshuamartin9255 2 роки тому
I had long wondered how they killed background noises in shows like this. It never would have occured that the bags and stuff are all "fake" to cancel noise. Very interesting to see how it's done, I love seeing behind the scenes stuff, so much more work goes into production that I could ever imagine and we don't realize about 75% of it
@lazuliartz1296 2 роки тому
Yeah. I always just assumed they somehow managed to kill background noises in post processing.
@arafat9828 2 роки тому
@@lazuliartz1296 Same I thought they somehow edited out background noise
@rickytickybobbywobbin7430 2 роки тому
I had always noticed the brown bags in shows that look really thick but never gave it much thought. Before watching this, I probably would’ve assumed it was for durability so the bags don’t fail during multiple takes
@MsMinoula Рік тому
Me, I was thinking 'they have different paper in America' 😂
@TheAlexChronic_les 2 роки тому
I'm going to school for props in August and that made me super excited! I hope I get to use this technique while there!!
@wild-radio7373 2 роки тому
Fantastic ♡ I really appreciate your work!
@MrSam1804 2 роки тому
Prop masters: making soundless props Foley artist: adding those sounds back
@erravi 2 роки тому
Making propless sounds
@corradoriccomini4474 2 місяці тому
Production sound mixer: not having a mental breakdown on set
@Ithenna 2 роки тому
Well, that explains a LOT. I used to wonder how you didn't hear papers and plastic bags in movies when irl, those things made an insane racket over a phone or video.
@morgungydja 2 роки тому
This kind of small details is why I’m in love with films
@allegrabentleykyt7996 2 роки тому
How cool to think that they are pay attention to the details, good job
@jacobbo-lee6107 2 роки тому
The scene from Tammy is suddenly more funny with the bag noise haha
@DaemonRayge 2 роки тому
I do agree, it makes the scene appear more weird and awkward.
@pixiemoonglow9642 2 роки тому
I always thought paper bags in movies and shows looked "softer" than regular ones!!
@yoymate6316 2 роки тому
i always assumed that paper bags looked soft in movies because they were made of a different type of paper in america... except i've been to america once and i never consciously realized that i've seen american paper bags and they also don't look like that. i'm not very smart, am i
@GeneralKenobi69420 2 роки тому
Furry
@ALocalFolf 2 роки тому
That's a fair point, actually
@GeneralKenobi69420 2 роки тому
@@ALocalFolf furry
@hijodelaisla275 2 роки тому
BS
@GachaClubXero Рік тому
I'm just happy you featured one of my favorite movies "Tammy"❤️😊
@craigleewhite6317 2 роки тому
Hello from UK. Craig thanking you for the instruction. I see your grub for the removals job. Excellent taste in food;) Craig.
@KazzatheBlankOne 2 роки тому
Even after plastic shopping bags were much more common than paper ones, tv and movies still seemed to use paper ones for a long long time. I always assumed it was because they were so much quieter than plastic bags. And I guess still they are. Great video!
@ELisa-qf2mw 2 роки тому
Wow, us common people might sometimes think that making movies is a funny dream-job and/or only focus on actors, but there is actually so much effort, hard work, creativity and a variety of people, skills and professions involved behind each tiny detail! Very interesting.
@no3ironman11100 Рік тому
Everyone's job has it's little secrets.
@cintiamartinez9911 Рік тому
That’s why I love film so much. I hope I can work on set one day it would be really cool
@Yoctopory Рік тому
That is so awesome. And here I thought I knew a lot about what it takes to make a movie. But I have never heard of silent props before.
@timl1481 Рік тому
Fascinating video, on a subject that I at least, hadn't really thought about.
@alexmomo2851 2 роки тому
No wonder it is still cost millions to produce a simple movie
@dudepersonvids 2 роки тому
Yeah this, and insurance, and equipment, and stars whose names will put butts in seats lol
@clockhanded 2 роки тому
Low budget movie directors and writers have to account for sounds and uncontrollable things as well because they can't afford to use silent props and years of editting. Makes me appreciate the legendary low budget movies even more.
@alexmomo2851 2 роки тому
@@clockhanded yes yes, it is hard, but they did, well it is good for a start
@princessthyemis 2 роки тому
Yeah! This is mind blowing!
@AlexNiedt 2 роки тому
A relatively small portion of film budgets goes into consideration for audio.
@logoanimation_shop 2 роки тому
Fun fact: The sound of a red-tailed hawk is used for a bald eagle in tv shows because a bald eagle actually sounds like a gull!
@billygoatguy3960 2 роки тому
More like the film industry has created our view of how a bald eagle sounds
@bruh3457 2 роки тому
Bald eagle sounds like a bald eagle lol
@logoanimation_shop 2 роки тому
@@bruh3457 Haha true
@BudDinktrap 2 роки тому
And the sound of a kookaburra is used for generic jungle sounds (and also dolphins, iirc)
@dragonsheen3049 2 роки тому
Similar to lions in cinema. Lion roars sound pretty underwhelming, so they’re replaced with tiger roars, which sound amazing and imposing.
@vigal79 2 роки тому
I stumbled across this while trolling through my main feed on UKposts. This is pretty cool, I never even gave props like this I thought. Where they might have to lower the sound for dialogue or whatever. Pretty cool.
@Kj16V 2 роки тому
I love how a -Vox- *Insider* gets me intrigued by things that never even crossed my mind before. EDITED!
@shameemayasmin7421 2 роки тому
Wrong channel name xP
@reneehughes7860 2 роки тому
As a hearing impaired person, thank you. You've now given me a way to get my friends to understand how the simplest noise makes conversations difficult for me.
@idiotsandwich4912 2 роки тому
That’s a wholesome twist to this whole video. I’m glad you can use this to explain to them!
@CainhuPenido 2 роки тому
Great idea! Hope they understand it now!
@michaelsmith5769 2 роки тому
WHAT?????????
@alainportant6412 2 роки тому
@@michaelsmith5769 It's unclear. I think she can only hear noises but not voices
@galacticgiraffe2277 2 роки тому
@@alainportant6412 I can't speak for OP, but I'm also a hard of hearing person - I can hear voices when I'm wearing my hearing aids, but my hearing aid microphones pick up a lot of background sounds really loudly, just like in this video, and it drowns out the people speaking. Even "simple" background sounds can make things infinitely more difficult when you're already struggling to make things out. It's likely OP can understand voices when there's no background sound, but finds it difficult to pick out the words people are saying when there are other noises.
@MsSphinx91 2 роки тому
I always assumed the sound editors were just that good! 😅 I'm sure they are, but who would've thought the prop guys had to worry about sound? Just one more reason why a professional movie costs so much. There are so many craftsmen on set.
@ms_ch Рік тому
They are literal sound engineers, the ammount of knowledge to make it all match the film is huge! Really amazing, like you said, how many people work together to make a film happen.
@GwyndolinOwO Рік тому
I'm sure there are ways to quiet sound to a certain degree but an easy rule to remember is that its easy to add something, but hard to get rid of it. So it might seem really annoying to have quiet props and then add in the sound later, but it also means they have a lot of power in mixing. and its not that abnormal for specialists to know a lot about other roles in a movie. A prop artist will have to know about sound, but they also might want to understand how props will interact with the lighting, or if the colors of the props will fit in with the set or stage. its cross communication like that that helps movies get made well. or any kind of creative thing made by a large group of people really.
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