Giving up on one goals also quite often ends up eventually boiling into resentment and vilification for the partner be it justified or not. Thus leading to the relationship to break down and lead to the person who sacrificed their dreams to feel a great deal of regret.

+Alicia en el pais de las maravillas Try reading some Ayn Rand it is pretty much what she advocates, for an rationalised kind of selfishness of putting oneself first above others and doing something because you want to rather than what society wants and how selflessness can be quite damaging. Even though I know there will be plenty you will have disagreements with it just that objectiveism does set out interesting arguments about this that are worthwhile to think about.. .

And who says that? I mean, I could some and wanted to be with that person the rest of my life and viceversa (biceversa? Idk) But that doesn't mean that we both can have goal and dreams that we want to acomplish and that we have to give them up.

Frank Dueñas The point is more so that many people give up their dreams for love. Some lovers are attached to specific geography zones for instance and will refuse to move, if your dream is to live another country for instance or your partner does not want you to get that promotion because it would mean less time with them, even if that promotion is your dream job. Yes this is not true for every case but the point is that this stuff happens It is important to not to forget that you exist and you have your own desires dreams and feeling and in situations like that it is best to question whether or not that relationship you are in is worth it for you. This is the issue about practicalities, there is only a certain amount of sacrifice you should be able to tolerate. Personally I have encountered this a lot with past lovers with things like that because I have a very specific dream in mind that I do not want to give up. Many people did not want to give up the contact time or would be unable to move with me as I need to in order to forward my career or want to travel the world and stuff. So even when I felt great love for these people I knew that it would twist if I did give such things up.

+ecos889 Well you are doing good not giving up your dreams. In life you are supposed to end up with a person that will be walking in your same path and where both are happy. That is why is true that love isn't all you need. You also need to know if both really know each other, If your personalities are compatible, If both were raised with similar values (not necesarily the same) among other things. Although It doesn't mean that you Have to acomplish all of your dreams before getting married or anything like that. A lot of couples acomplish their dreams after settling up.

Sadly yes

@BOB I agree. It's very sad that even allegedly philosophically inclined channels like The School of Life present romanticism as a set of stereotypes. Romanticism is the breaking of stereotypes, being free and genuine to yourself, to your own age, to not follow norms, to not be dependent on others' expectations. Unfortunately, contemporary people cannot acknowledge its transformational nature and just see it as something of the past, as a soap-opera thing. That's not romanticism. It's the market's appropriation of it.

I like your comment so much I'm probably going to write it down in calligraphy. And I'm not even joking. About sums up my entire dating experience.

@@tanyamue8752 lol me too

Oof. Someone said it. Finally.

i was often told that and now tell it to others lol. its kinda like in a Woody Allen movie (don't care for him personally) where his characters therapist or whatever tells him "no, you don't love me, you love the idea of me". and i think that's what happens to alot of us, basically, at least in regards to crushes and infatuations

@@professorbaxtercarelessdre1075 That' the point though. To fall in love with an image of virtue you can observe in the person you are in love with. Of course the person him/herself is not perfect, no one is, but he/she acts as a way for you to comprehend and ultimatelly desire virtue and beauty.

@@agapanthiacardui5977 i don't get it, i'm really slow and have trouble grasping things, hate to blame it on my autism again but that's usually the reason i think. i want to understand what you're saying but i just can't wrap my head around it lol

I also don't get it

@@givenmakhobela1405 thanks, glad i'm not alone :)

That saying isn’t invented by disney lmao

Mgd Kns exactly. they thought they did something

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@@mgdkns6678 It was from the Grimm Bros. I'm sure Disney didn't give them credits though.

"i'm mad at disney, disney! they tricked me, tricked me!"

this is a great comment you're very right

People believe that a relationship with the "right" person won't be difficult or boring, but what it means by "right" is always vague. When people encounter difficulties, lulls, or unhappiness, they believe these are signs that their chosen partner is the "wrong" person and with the "right" person, these things will not be encountered at all or will simply work themselves out without too much effort or strain. Thus creating a pattern of serial monogamy, abandoning relationship after relationship once the euphoria of new love wears off.

Bono Music That wasn't meant to mean that you have to put up with everything a partner wants to do or you're obliged to try to "work it out". The anti-romanticism model of relationships says that practical considerations are significant, and asking a partner to change can be reasonable and necessary. If you have radically different feelings about monogamy and fidelity, that relationship isn't sustainable. I don't think wanting an open or polyamorous relationship is morally wrong, though I'm skeptical of the endurance of that type of relationship paradigm, but I think that people who don't want to be monogamous shouldn't have relationships with people who feel differently. Deception is always wrong.

moonlily1 tnx mate. i agree with u. glad u explained :)

Bless you >:'( Open-relationship?

LOL

Period.

HAHAHAHAHA

DaGamingLife stick to your gaming life, bro.

Same here♥️

i certainly, for many years, thought i had to find someone i love more than me, which i never imagined would be hard, considering i never loved myself at all lol. now here i am trying to love myself first cause if i don't love me, who would?

I agree with you but sometimes this idea often gets mixed with ruthless pursuit of self interest. People who cheat are often the kind of people who believe that own happiness is more important than others.

Bro your pfp what's the name of the paint

​@@Sterope-zo9rv I think it's something made by Paul Bransom

It depends on how you look at that. To be willing to give your life to save another is proof of love

I like your insight, but I would like to beg the question; What is the purpose of marriage without emotion? What is love without emotion, even? Perhaps I'm just a hopeless romantic, but the idea of being with someone I'm compatible with yet am not emotionally moved by really bothers me. If that's what a relationship is, then why be in one? I manage my life perfectly fine on my own, so if there's nothing I cannot do on my own then to what reason would I be in a relationship if not for a feeling? I hope some of that made sense. I don't mean to be vague if I was. Anyway, thank you for your time.

Love is a choice like you said 👌🏿

You've nailed it

Agreed, same applies to your own life. Life is a choice and love too.

Romance is encourageable in marriage to enhance the relationship between the husband and wife. However, being overly romantic can blind our views of true love. Love is practical while romance is frivolous.

Love is bullshit

... i've been to Egypt... and seen the spinx..one thing i know for sure.. love stinks...

more like it made it marketable and commercially exploitable

I've always like Erich Fromm´s idea :“Love is a decision, it is a judgment, it is a promise. If love were only a feeling, there would be no basis for the promise to love each other forever. A feeling comes and it may go. How can I judge that it will stay forever, when my act does not involve judgment and decision.”

I used to believe that, but when your wife goes to the police, and tells them she is afraid of you, it is time to rethink.

I think his voice won't fit well with some audiobooks though but it's perfect with this kinds of setting.

Hello there! If you watch Alain's documentary " Status Anxiety" on youtube you can hear the voice for two and a half hours:-) I would subscribe to that channel too. He has excellent documentaries there. Have a nice evening!

+Lua Veli What's that channel called?

+francis dudero True :)

Hello there! You were asking me how to find Alain de Botton's other youtube channel. You can go to my channel, on the right side there is a list of channels I love. There it is. If you live in the UK though, you may not be able to see the documentaries because of a copy right issue. In that case I highly recommend you to read his books. Especially " The Consolations of Philosophy".

I feel called out. LOL

Is love even an emotion or something? What is it really

I was attacked

@@planetary-rendez-vous I think love is when both are committed to keep up together in life

I disagree with the friendship part no one does friends first then date then relationship and if they did it would be better.

Same, same.

High school mentality, which shows we have been programmed to it. Stop believing that idea mid 20

Thank god i understood it at the beginning of 12.

TV love sums it up. Perfect word!

@@VENOM-ol6pv hello you lucky champ!

Turn off the tv

JimboParadox I agree with the comment above, and no hate but what's up with Notting Hill, I love that film

Disney princess stories (the early ones especially) like Snow White, Sleeping Beauty, Cinderella make "love at first sight" and "happily ever after" seem like the normal when they almost impossible. I refuse to let my young daughter watch these movies until we are old enough to discuss why the "love" in these movies is unrealistic.

@@KyrieW Agreed. I try to teach my girls. There's no love at first sight. Men who claim they do, actaully it's "lust at first sight." Beware of those who want something quick and just for fun.

Okay, I can't be the only person who was told from childhood that everything that comes in TV is a lie......

Been there, felt that.

Gosh me too!!!!! He'd always say "you're not romantic" ,my relationship with him was so unhealthy,mainly due to the overly obsession on romanticism

@Hellboy Well, it's going to hurt when that person knows it's not EXACTLY how it goes.

@Hellboy I hope everyone who goes through this "awkward" realization know this.

Remember,love is the ultimate evil

To appreciate life for what it is in its entierty. Good, Bad and inbetween.

Its not true love, LITERALLY they saw eachother and fell in love like that wow they are now in love

Lmfao wasn't Romeo 18? WHICH IS CREEPy BuT yA kNoW....

@@canoftrash9452 I think he's 17 or 18 in the original Italian story but in Shakespeare's stage version he's 15 which makes more sense given the immaturity of his behavior.

@@xxfluffycloudsxx Agreed, it's not true love - it's romantic love, which is the imaginary love of children.

@@dontaylor7315 oh, okay thnx😂

My thoughts exactly. First Generation of Romantic Poets didn't even define the so-called boundaries of love, they simply introduced a simpler way of writing, aiming to appeal to the common people.

I do not recognize my decades long studies of Romanticism in the video. The Romantic Movement of 1750 did not have such goals in mind nor in any recollection can I hear any of those great Romantic figures saying such things.

The word romantic was actually a term of reproof used by the educated clergy in the Middle Ages for the common people of present-day Spain, France and Italy for speaking mutilated Latin. The word was revived in the 19th century because of the aesthetic fascination with the medieval folk culture.

Justin Burton He got that covered as well in his other video.

Yes, I often think about it too and it can help show differences between a emotional highs and lows through drama. Unfortunately, drama is not a realistic life setting and life is not that organized as well. Things happen and love requires rationalizing and feeling. We might fear that the other person we are trying to love might make us feel worse or tare us down a little if they are having a bad day and they tell us about our bad day ruining ours. So, remaining positive plus rationalizing plus feeling. Most of these actually apply in other types of relationship models as well. Since people have flaws, trying to understand love and give and receive can be tricky. The other person must also mutually understand the persons needs both financially and socially. It is unfortunately not always a good idea to be in a relationship were someone demands a lot from you almost like a hostage type of relationship saying they will leave if you do not give them something. We can make flaws along the way and then understand the areas the other person might not be strong in through practicing communication and looking for certain ques. Love really does require rationalizing and feeling for someone else where as we might feel torn down a little if they are having a bad day and they tell us about our bad day it will ruin ours. So remaining positive plus rationalizing plus feeling.

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Ah.That will be hard to read lol.

My dear, thorned rose, Thou hast left thine towels on the floor once more, The floor, The floor of my heart.

Damn, here's a 4 year late thanks

@@venturer9400 same

I feel the same... Love can be anything and you only get to know when you fall in love.

Honestly, i believe balance is what makes things work in most things in life as well, youll get nothing done if you're so stuck to one side

Thanks for this comment. I needed to hear this.

Maybe they intentionally focused on the problematic parts of Romanticism to fix the problem. There's no point talking about beliefs that ain't broke.

Joel Fry why would you sacrifice your own needs for anyone?

Persian Badgal I wouldn't need to sacrifice my needs, just my convenience--because I am going to come back here. I want to make sure it is the best world it can be: One thousand years from now, somewhere else, there is someone who is exactly like you down to the atom. Is that person you? Also, consider that my baseline consciousness is very much like yours. And the baseline consciousness of a newborn baby is maybe the same as that of any other healthy newborn. Consciousness is what makes me me. Materialism is false: There cannot be an infinite series of conditioned realities. A conditioned reality is a reality which is dependent on other things (component parts) for its existence. A hydrogen atom is a conditioned reality, because protons and electrons must exist for hydrogen atoms to exist. Since matter cannot be infinitely small, and since an atom does not have an infinite number of component parts, there must be an ultimate bottom to the component layers--an unconditioned reality. Also, since each component layer is completely dependent on the layer beneath it there must be an unconditioned reality to give rise to the component layers for the same reason that an infinite series of zeros does not add up to one. I have no reason to believe this ultimate reality is merciful, loving, or angry. However, I believe that because of this unconditioned reality it may be possible for the patterns of our consciousness to be uploaded to this essence, this unconditioned reality, and replicated in other parts of the cosmos. Given an infinite set of possible scenarios this seems at least probable. Evidence for this possible process lies in the fact that particles may "pop into and out of existence." It is not logically coherent to say that particles ACTUALLY cease to exist then come back into existence. Many aspects of the universe are counterintuitive, but this does not mean the universe works in a way that is logically incoherent. Particles unform into the essence, then the essence re-forms them later. This debunks materialism, because the essence is not a material form of reality, since all material forms of reality are made of component parts. And since this essence actively sustains the cosmos, it is God.

Joel Fry i love youuuuuuu

@@thesecretiveone6313 in the case of marriage: to help your partner out and sometimes they will help you out. Teamwork makes the dream work. In the general case: sometimes sacrificing something will give more to someone else (or others) that it does for yourself. I think that's the aim of all good people: try to get a net positive impact on this shitty world riddled with suffering.

ninearthify Can you recommend a movie or two that portrays romance realistically ?!

Asexuals dont believe sex and love go together. They don't feel romantically inclined or sexually aroused as easily as other ppl do. Some people nurture deep minds before sex vs. A casual sex fling.

U feel my pain bud

Thank you for pointing it out

@@irenem.965 I am this and I 'fall in love' so easily.

@@irenem.965 This whole post flew right over your head, and you don't even know what you're talking about...

Don't let anyone get you down, do whatever you feel makes you yourself. I support you!

Jayze Pickles you’re a sweetheart!! Thank you and wish you the best

OMG same I'm aroace too,,,

Hitee Bhardwaj I’m only aro but I totally feel you!! I can’t even begin to imagine how it must feel to be bombarded with sexual content on a daily basis...

@@nicolenicole6325 I hate that people force me to be like them. Like if I said I'm aroace i don't feel such pleasure in both. But then they cut me off-and said its just a phase you'll learn to be romantic, Likee brrruhhh... Wuut??? So you know me much more I know myself???

Yeah. All the romances shown in films are pretty much impossible to get irl. It just makes you have an unhealthy opinion of relationships. A bit romance here and there in a relationship is certainly nothing bad in a relationship though.

I agree, though not entirely. my grandpa had a love at first sight experience and has been together with my grandma ever since. I think those kind of mysteries are what make life so great. :)

Luke Lemmon That's great! And I get that people might get that "feeling" at first sight, but it doesn't happen too often and I think popular media shouldn't make that their main focus.

What if you met your perfect sole mate. Beautiful, kind etc. But....they were an adamant Trump supporter. Would you still pursue it?

PhedelCastro We probably wouldn't have the same morals and way of thinking, meaning in no way they are my perfect soulmate, so I would have no trouble saying no to them.

sounds like '500 days of summer'!

+EAZY-E Great movie. 😃

+EAZY-E I've never seen it before

500 DAYS OF SUMMER

+plica06 spoilers!

Yeah it's a perfect description of HEALTHY relationship

It would be awesome to share your opinion ^^.

Moaz Eldefrawy Well, I agree that married couples often have unrealistic expectations, and that they place too much emphasis on squishy "feelings", as opposed to relationships based on more practical considerations. Steve Camp, a contemporary Christian musician, expressed it well with a song, "Love's Not A Feeling". Love sometimes DOES involve feelings, of course. But what happens when the feelings go away? What happens when the passion has disappeared from a relationship where it once existed? When that happens, it often leads to divorce, which is extremely destructive in relation to children (all other things being equal). The part with which I disagree is the idea that sex can be a good thing even if it involves adultery, also known as an affair. Having a "lover on the side" may seem like a good idea to a liberal who takes his or her cues from relatively decadent European culture, but statistical analysis shows the destabilizing effects of adultery. Children need stability. They don't need or want secondary daddies or mommies. The only reason that we accept such things is that we've become inured --- also known as becoming "desensitized" to immorality.

Thanks for sharing. I think you explained some stuff better than the video itself.

I have to agree with you.

Thanks for pointing that out.

When a man loves you he will FEEL like you're the most beutiful girl in the world. He may see that other girl have 'better' nose or eyes but he won't love these nose and eyes.

Yes in movies also the love is extremely romantic,😄 in czech movie of 80s husband comes home and wife gives him slap between the door, Why did you came so late?😄 What can be not romantic about it???? 😄 He just did some scams to gain money. Its comedy... They used to play couple in some movies. ....I somehow have problem to take modern movies seriously... The old movies were quite funny and natural..... In modern movies they take everything so seriously that its hard to watch it. but I real life quite nice marriage Abrham/Šafranková.

*My Top 5

def top 5 for the non-biography videos

Same

I have to agree with you on that.

Should complement not complete

+I dog you I'm glad you're totally wrong. Yes we fight, but ultimately we love each other too much. Whether you like it or not, this IS the best way. If you think your relationship failed, you can rest assured that you failed to do what I said. When there is a superficial thing that causes the attraction, it is rare that both simultaneously find something in each other enough to love, and you will surely lose interest in that "thing" just like you lost interest in that last iPhone or whatever.

Even in close relationships, everyone has secrets and keeps secrets. I don't mean that as in a "secret mistress or mister" or something as damaging or deceiving in a relationship. But its impossible to know what someone else is thinking or feeling at all times and is unnecessary. Everyone has thoughts or "things" they keep to themselves. I think its an unrealistic idea and expectation to share every bit of our inner life with one person, at least in my experience. It removes a sense of independence and can be quite oppressive. The expectation itself may be more damaging than anything else as well. I may have misunderstood your sentiment on that however, might just have meant open communication overall. Wholeheartedly agree about seeking something deeper than superficial based love though. Lust and love are not the same. But physical attraction/chemistry is very important and not something I could personally overlook either

And you don't have one "soulmate" or whatever. You have many possible "soulmates", and many people can become your match, who weren't fit for you before. You just try to find someone who is good enough for you, because there is not one perfect match. Just find a really good match, and stick with it. (But people can always change, so if you change into a terrible match, you might need to split up). But, you can always make things work, try to fix the relationship, but leave it if it just can't be fit.

I really want to believe this is true

vaguelyhuman How does sharing make you depend on someone or choosing to be loyal??? like really? Its all a choice. The above doesn't say: "rely on them to provide for you"

Perfect.

Amen!!

or atleast why love marriages don't have a better success rate than arranged marriages

they have actually found quite a number of arranged marriages work out, because the people entering into them do so with relatively low expectations. Alternately, in the country with the highest divorce rate (Denmark), the most commonly listed reason for divorce is 'expectations were not met'.

Well not always, but they can, even though I'm personally not for it. My parents had an arranged marriage that neither wanted, but they totally worked it out after being together long enough. It's not a romantic tale, but their families were a good practical partnership for each other. They've been together for over 30 years and I like to think my siblings and I turned out pretty well after my 23 years of knowing all of them. We're all Americans by the way, so this didn't just happen in some third world country like everyone commonly believes.

The premise of marriage in Islam is much more practical than that of the Christian ideal.

+Jasmine Ashurst Could you tell me about the practicality of it please? I think that the christian ideal of marriage seems to fit this classical template more than the romantic.

I find my views to align with what you're saying, Paula. I also like the comparison you made between a relationship and a puzzle. Different templates work for different people, and these templates are not found online or obtained from others. Rather, I feel these templates are found in oneself and in the journey of creating a relationship.

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Beautifully said.

I think that marriage itself isn’t about compatibility it’s about commitment. Most people don’t realize that after being together so long people will change and in order to keep a marriage you will have to accept those changes. That’s commitment and it’s hard. I think it’s definitely possible. But like the video says you’re not gonna be in your honeymoon phase the whole time.

But they are still not the same. Romanticism involves all kind of stories, feelings and emotions, not just love. You can romantice life, death, victory, battles, violence, revolutions and much more. It's not about making things look pretty and sappy. It's about taking human life to different levels of beauty and perfection. Most of the time it has nothing to do with love or relationships. Pretending that there's no difference between both concepts makes the creator of this video sound like an ignorant.

He should have just called it romance and not romanticsm. That's all. I'm sure it wouldn't have been that difficult.

As someone who was really keen on art classes with many of my favourite books from the romantic era, this bothered me. They certainly did not upheld the "Love conquers all" attitude towards love but rather passionately embraced all emotions, positive and negative.

I guess the intent is to talk about the romanticisation of romance. Forgive the folks .

Exactly, lol.

the source of all disappointments is expectations

It's Romanticism that is responsible for having put these myths and false expectations as a standard in the first place.

but in romanticism you expect that from your partner. Hence romanticism creates expectations that are too high.

If you have expectations from your partner being "if I do this I'll receive that" then no you are not being romantic just exchanging favors.

We need to separate affection from Romanticism. One is an act of love and appreciation, the other is an political ideology. Romanticism is an political ideology on how love and relationship should function, in this case romanticism claim that we should find our soulmate that will fulfill all of our expectation. So actually you are agreeing with the point of the video.

I don't completely agree with the guy (especially his historical references...) but we are evolved for ideal gene proliferation. Attachment is a tool in that process I recon. There will always be some amount of conflict in the process of passing on superior genes. Conflict/deception between male/female and between individuals. Anyway stay in the moment. Life if what you make it. Base decisions on what you want rather than what you don't want. Pain guaranteed, suffering doesn't always have to be.

*****, we're fine. We understand each other's styles and respond accordingly.

Actually Romanticism being very affected by Fichte considers action as one of the most important aspects of being

Oh no, you're not the only one, trust me ;)

That's not exactly wrong though xD. Everyone may not be the centre of the universe kind of special (rather no one), but to say one isn't special is not that right either.

Indian always classical :)

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Thomas Headley I used 'my world' to specify that in my own context I am (or I feel like I am) the only one that thinks this way :).

Naw that's your inability to subvert your expectations of each other and make goals with each other with consideration to each other.

Ishieka Morris no marriages fail for the reasons he believes important. Money, status, towels on the floor lol, etc. I hardly see people in relationships for reasons opposed here. Marriages fail because what they view as criteria for marriage, so called “love”, is really not love at all.

Not really, not always. There's many marriages that were done between those who had no ounce of personal affection or trust and there were also those who were duped into a marriage.

@Nadeko which social changes do you think had the greatest impact?

HeroForHire Did it?

yeah did it?

DID IT?!

He got stabbed to death by his wife. Sry :(

Emanuel Linton that was way too funny. Thanks for the good laugh

that sounds amazing. I hope it continues to be that way for a long time. good luck to you

Vroxzz Roxz Thank you. :)

update? :)

do not believe what you read

dude... go to an actual counselor

very true, thanks for the knowledge

What's a better version of Romanticism according to you? I interpret this video as an attack on a strong, idealized version of romanticism. Of course romanticism comes in other shades as well.

Also, being classical when making major decisions (like marriage) doesn't exclude romanticism in the relationship

+Dahaka97 The Classical movement was about politeness, propriety, and lack of passions, The Romanic movement was about the passions of honesty in expression and virtue of individuals. Hedonism is about living for pleasure while avoid practicalities. Just because the Romantic and Hedonist movements are both not Classical, this channel is lumping them together to produce Romantic-Hedonism, and calling the result Romantic. I am a non-hedonic Romantic and I find these being lumped together extremely insulting!

Unsubscribed.

+MegaBro you.re right in your criticism, but in today's perspective there is an argument to be made that romanticism implies hedonism

BOBO FAHK

lol indeed mate

How so ?

Which means it rings a bell with you, which is a good thing.

+Professicchio it terrifies me too but how is it a good thing ?

I agree. It was very succinct while still laying out all of the ideas very well. "This is perfect" definitely came to mind.

that is attachment, not love

@@sarahs2776 True! Glad that's over with. This comment was three years ago! lol

@@PHYREXIANFISH omgg I just noticed how old it was!😂

We've all been there haha

@@PHYREXIANFISH are you still with her?

***** *Shrug* Maybe Classical has flaws that are just not apparent to me. Idk

he said always. that the classical mindset is ALWAYS the better choice. this vid is about only about love

I agree. I think the reactionaries of the industrial revolution ruined everything.

i wouldn't be so sure about that, many classical philosophers saw romantic love as a kind of madness (that attitude having a lot to do with misogyny), and found 'fraternal' love more 'noble'. marriage was almost entirely practical, public and domestic life where highly segregate, and the positive feelings we associate with marriage--affection, loyalty, friendship, a sense of equality and respect, etc---would have been foreign to classical philosophers and their understanding of marriage. I think post modernism--a healthy skepticism towards certain romantic attitudes while still valuing the underlying ideal of romantic love--is an apt term, moreso than purely 'classical' in its conclusions. edit: i think 'the experience of romantic love' might actually be a more appropriate, 'post modern' turn of phrase instead of 'the underlying ideal of romantic love' just an addition.

+Briar Reed Kant was a man child in your estimation? Could you explain your statement, please?

Lol!

haha.. good one. :)

Smash

You didn't leave your number. That's not very post romantic

Hey I just met you

If we are not being told we only like assholes and "treat 'em mean, keep 'em keen" we are being told we are up ourselves and waiting for the perfect guy and we think we are too good for everyone. We just can't win.

No point on taking any side to the extreme. Everything must have a balance.

most men who think that don't actually know many women lol

+Pedro Afonso I think your lack of success with real life women might be related to your affinity for marking your fellow human beings out of 10.

***** ...if you ever wonder why you're eternally single you can just look at this comment

Have a look at the excerpts from Bridezillas and say romanticism is dead. Look at the ongoing fight same sex couples across Western cultures for the right to marry, the enduring popularity of love songs, 50 Shades of Grey, the continuing popularity of Mills and Boon and will they, won't they costume dramas, rom cons, etc. Romanticism isn't dead because the alienation which engendered it - the Industrial and Agrarian Revolutions and the breakdown in familial and personal security is still prevalent. Whilst some of us are aware of the difficulties in emotional relationships, many still want to follow romanticism's promise. All I know for sure is that marriage and friendship are idealised but the necessary skills required to be successful in these are life skills, rather than natural attributes. You live and learn I suppose...

C.S. Lewis.. The guy that thought that sexuality was corruption, that women sexually matured faster and then used their sexuality to corrupt men.. anything he has to say on love might be fascinating but I am not going to use it to guide me in life. He was a very disturbed and lonely human.

***** Supposing he did "think" that (I've never come across it), did he simply forget the customary "NOT ALL" hashtag/footnote that we demand today for every single general statement? I hope you weren't too triggered.

***** Additionally, the video you just watched posits that "sexuality is corruption," i.e. a preoccupation with sex corrupts our sense of what "love" is. This is no more and no less than anything Lewis believed.

I happened to think the video was silly.

Coolidge Dollar He is a well known misogynist and it is no one's fault but your own you don't know that. Very funny, PTSD is HILARIOUS. Ha ha. People who have it are SO FUNNY. Fucking red pill men are everywhere. No one is sexist, the problem is women are too sensitive! And Lewis is a prophet to you! Telling you you will be better people if you forsake lust! Telling you that masturbation is wrong! Telling you that women and lust serve only to separate you from the ideal! Have you read the Hideous Strength? About how women, in daring to study instead of stay at home and fuck, in daring to use contraception, prevent the birth of the second coming (valuable little BOY) and can't achieve happiness before achieving perfect subservience and for God's sake, not studying but staying at home. And what about the little girls not being allowed to return to Narnia as soon as they hit puberty, while the boys can? Even when talking to children he made sure little girls and boys knew which of them would turn into monsters. But for all that he had talent, he could tell a story, he could create something bigger than himself and less petty than his pathetic little existence. What do red-pillers do only spread hate and lies and intolerance.