Top Secret Smoke

It's that old 1970s smoke, they didn't show the baggie in the vid

sweet.

@@DeviantOllam So that's where they're keeping the top secret magic smoke that they put in top secret government electronics

It's just left over from back when you were allowed to smoke in the office.

locked away for years, potentially decades. But I'm pretty sure the thing they are searching for was not in that cabinet.

and not just "lose" to taliban, isis, & cartel members.

that wasn't the sensitive materials (I blacked out the screen when the sensitive contents were being removed) but you're right... there was a Glock box in there. 😉👍

no it wasnt, no one cares about the gLOCK box, it was really (censored)!!!! can you believe it???

There are a LOT of tiny Mom and Pop defense contracting companies with stuff on-site that has to go in GSA containers. I'm not surprised that they'd also keep valuables of a more personal nature inside. :)

Yeah.... And this is only a Class 6 container. A Class 5 container is much more ruggedized.

As someone who has opened them explosively, they ARE tough. Like, "how in Murphy did *that* not open it!?!" tough.

I also like that they were designed that a new front can be put on and the safe recertified.

@@DeviantOllam how many shekels does this channel get you, deviant of mossad????

Yeah, this is a really well thought out design

@@DeviantOllam Thanks for sharing!

Wow, that's quite a series of decisions that that person made 😂

some kind of sliding partition that isolates the drilling bit from the drill motor portion, so the drill motor has a supply of cooling air and doesn't overheat, yet the swarf is contained. the addition of a hepa filtered vacuum with the suction hose at the bottom to evacuate the smoke and swarf into might be a solution for a very clean job.

One of my regular electronic access guys I use has a battery powered "shop vac" for whenever he's soldering. About the size of a boom box with corrugated stretchy hose on it, not one of those garbage dust busters. So much better than isolating fire sensors.

The 18 volt Bosch vacuum would be excellent for that, very portable as well!

Sounds like the army

@@angrydragonslayer Navy

@@Kriss_L army but another 10% can swim and there's some more unsavoury rumours

this is the most military day-to-day work thing I have ever read

Sounds like the kind of thing that could have been insourced to a fire team of miscreants with much more success.

Agreed, a small soldering extraction fan would do the trick I think.

And it doesn't need to be strong suction.

It would keep the smoke and such from getting to the safe contents as well

@@wobblysauce yeah, some battery operated dustbuster type portable would be more than enough

Makita makes a sweet little HEPA wet dry vacuum that'd be perfect for this role. 18v cordless too.

so glad that it worked well for you!

what was in them?

@@brandonsinclair261 [REDACTED] 😉👍

@@DeviantOllam I love tiny slips of [REDACTED] in the morning.

Thanks! It comes with being old. ;-)

@@DeviantOllam Ha! At least theres some perks to your body rebelling against you. Thanks for sharing all of this - it might be completely outside my wheelhouse, but its still fascinating to learn about.

As someone who's seen people handling an estate: be careful about leaving any of the relevant paperwork in that box. Whoever handles your estate may not appreciate it if you leave insurance or tax documents in there. Even worse if it's your will. I'm not saying don't do it --- probably your executor will be someone who appreciates your sense of humour, and they might be really glad of the memory of you! But remember they'll also have just lost someone close to them, and been hit with a huge amount of paperwork at the same time.

Given my experiences in the private sector, I'm not that surprised at all. I've had an employer who didn't renew my contract because they felt my wage demand was too high. Fair enough I suppose. So on my last work day they had me remove all of my accounts and stuff like that and clear out my desk, the regular stuff. What they forgot is that I was the only person who knew certain passwords and key codes. And because I was no longer supposed to know those, by their orders, I randomised them and didn't note them, after all I wasn't supposed to know them any more. Yeah it took them months to realise that they couldn't open the warehouse safe any more, as some smart arse decided to put the override key in the safe itself. I had always warned against this practice, but they didn't listen. Because I was the only one who knew the code to that safe, as I was responsible for that safe, I randomised the code and did not take notes of it. They had an intern spend weeks to try and brute force the code by manually trying every single one. I bet that poor kid has carpal tunnel issues now from rotating that knob a bazillion times. Same with online accounts, everything was tied to my account as well as that of the GM, but the GM had forgotten his passwords and I had either removed my access or randomised the password without saving it. Because I shouldn't be able to access corporate backend systems for a company I no longer work for. They spent thousands on tech support recovering all of their SaaS BS and things like SEO and SEA accounts. All I wanted was a market conforming salary, nothing ridiculous, but about thrice what they were paying me. It was the last time I made the mistake of accepting a low ball salary just to get a foot in the door.

I thought about that! I have a little shark vacuum that I keep with me to clean up on jobs after cutting and drilling. I bet I could get an additional piece of plexiglass and experiment with ways to attach a tube and filter to that tiny vacuum.

@@DeviantOllam one with a HEPA filter (various vacuums have them, not sure about the shark) should take care of most of the smoke.

@@DeviantOllam Since the vacuum cleaner could end up eating a small amount of shrapnel, should it perhaps be a metal shop vac?

People sometimes put little air purifiers inside the boxes with 3D printers. One of those might handle the smoke. They come pretty small.

@@jmr link? I'm trying to imagine what such a product would be.

That would be a pretty neat idea. :-)

Easy enough to do, I can make it if you want

I've used a rail drill that has a light to tell you if you're using too much/little/just enough pressure but it's pretty hit and miss. Our drill has a lever not a threaded rod which imho feels more natural but that might just be familiarity.

glad you liked it!

you just need a long wire and a camera with this setup

Not really. As long as you dont also have stuff in there, which is sensitive to moisture. Thats a pretty shallow cut, so you could cool it using everything from a spray-bottle to a garden hose. As long as you dont soak the motor, that should work fine.

This same rigs cut through a Class 5 just as easily. In fact, the mounting plate is even sturdier than on the thinner Class 6.

Thanks for watching 😁

@@DeviantOllam thank you for replying.

You're very welcome! 👍

A cool question! So, you're correct, they are not bolted to the floor. And they can't be. Class 5 and Class 6 filing cabinet containers (the ones in use today) do not have accommodation for holes in their enclosures. So mounting is not possible. The only exception there are Class 6-S containers, where "S" references "Shipboard" As you might imagine, if a Navy craft is facing 30' seas and pitching and rolling around the last thing they need in the radio room or wherever is to have a 600lb metal box smashing around the cabin like a pinball. So Shipboard containers have an extra base plate element welded to their bottom at the factory, which has mounting holes (and they are external holes... it's like a flange base.)

@@DeviantOllam Thanks for these extra details! But is there a structural reason why filing-cabinet-style safes could not have "internal" holes in the base and/or back, accessible only with drawers removed, that could be used to bolt them down? This would mean one could only unbolt them if able to open the safe.

@@FrankStajanoExplains presumably, the rule is far easier to enforce if it's "no holes in the container for any reason" so that the DoD doesn't have to play 20 questions with every manufacturer who comes along

@@FrankStajanoExplains I would also note that your setup implies that the bolt is probably responsible for keeping that hole filled, and bolts typically have two ends only one of which will be contained inside the safe. If someone can get access to an open bolt hole (or unscrew the unprotected end of the bolt and knock it in through the hole to open it), they can potentially get a borescope camera in through the hole and look at the safe's contents. Having a mounting hole accessible only from the inside means that installation becomes part of making the container secure -- and that probably means that any time you move the safe, you have to have someone like Deviant come out and certify the installation. Yes, one can set up things so that the bolt holes don't provide an ingress point, but I think that's where the point about making the rules simple comes into play. :)

@@BrooksMoses Thanks, that's an insightful explanation, and I now understand the rationale of the rule being "don't call it security grade X if it has holes, because we don't know how/where a J Random User will position it and if he doesn't make the holes inaccessible then the holes are a vulnerability". On the other hand security is risk management and if this were my own safe, that of my company, or that of a client I advised, I would consider the risk that someone walks away with it greater than the risk that someone puts a fiber-optics bendy camera in the hole---and if it came without holes I'd buy the necessary diamond bits and put the holes in myself (from the inside) so that I could bolt it to something structurally immovable! And when I say greater I mean _both_ more likely and more damaging. Circumstances vary of course, but that would be my broad assessment in absence of further details.

There are various magmount styles of drill rig, but they take up more real estate. Like, the footprint of that mounting plate would become much larger. And it's already kind of a tight fit to navigate around the drawer handle, the dial ring, etc. But it's a neat idea, I'll Grant you that.

Yeah, magdrill was my first thought, although you'd lose the nice enclosure

That is a nice looking piece of kit, looks nicely made.

I'm glad!