How To Make Parabolic Mirrors From Space Blankets - NightHawkInLight

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Parabolic mirrors are useful for everything from solar power to telescopes to holographic projection. They're usually very difficult to make by traditional means, but this video takes a different approach.
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@lloydm.parker364
@lloydm.parker364 5 років тому
One last note - As a teacher, thanks so much for including your initial failure, with this project. It's great to be able to show students an example of how we shouldn't always see failures in a negative light, but rather, as learning experiences. It speaks highly of you to have included yours.
@constablebrew
@constablebrew 5 років тому
Your students can see their failures in a parabolic light now!
@Evan_Case
@Evan_Case 4 роки тому
If I were to do something like that I'd have to edit out the "son of a bitch," that inevitably follows that first failure.
@11moonshot
@11moonshot 3 роки тому
Ha! Another physics teacher here! I used discarded satellite dishes... No big deal to cover the concave side with aluminum adhesive strips and make a perfect parabolic mirror! The effect were awsome!
@uncaboat2399
@uncaboat2399 2 роки тому
To their credit, the Mythbusters TV show did this all the time. Arguably, their failures were more entertaining than their successes, but each failure (sometimes several in a row) resulted in data for the next attempt.
@utetrahemicon
@utetrahemicon 2 роки тому
Success through Failure: The Paradox of Design by Henry Petroski is a great book and his other books as well.
@Joewalshe38
@Joewalshe38 6 років тому
I like that you showed what didn't work and used whatever was available to keep going
@grantmoorhouse4825
@grantmoorhouse4825 4 роки тому
You should be able to buy a roll of mylar from a hydroponic shop, their used in grow rooms, and won't have creases!
@DrRudy-em5nw
@DrRudy-em5nw 3 роки тому
i was always using it for growing cannabis
@Michaelf122
@Michaelf122 2 роки тому
They definitely dont use mylar in grow rooms, at least not mine and it makes no sense for the fact you have to remove and replace every harvest👀 most just use lab grade white board material 👍
@justinw1765
@justinw1765 3 роки тому
What's pretty neat about aluminized parabolic reflectors, and "funnel" style solar ovens, is that they can also be used to cool objects as well at night , by radiating the IR energy up into space. Make a container that is very well insulated in relation to conduction and convection, but very transparent to IR, find a part of your yard with a clear shot to the sky, point the reflector straight up and especially on cloudless, dry nights, over night, the contents inside the container will significantly cool in relation to ambient air temps.
@TheRealCheckmate
@TheRealCheckmate 6 років тому
Very nicely done, and thank you for making a well-organized video that didn't take five times longer than it needed to, like most UKpostsrs seem to do!
@GreekGadgetGuru
@GreekGadgetGuru 7 років тому
I love how you uses smoke to show the light! Great video
@BizillionAtoms
@BizillionAtoms 5 років тому
What is just regular smoke?
@Competitive_Antagonist
@Competitive_Antagonist 5 років тому
Probably a fog machine. Looks amazing when you see the light rays focus to a point.
@helpmeiamenslaved3116
@helpmeiamenslaved3116 4 роки тому
Love how u speaks
@octaviusgalacticus2253
@octaviusgalacticus2253 3 роки тому
If it was smoke it would probably light on fire its most likely fog
@octaviusgalacticus2253
@octaviusgalacticus2253 3 роки тому
@@helpmeiamenslaved3116 😐
@augustreigns9716
@augustreigns9716 5 років тому
it was a true pleasure to hear you speak, and watch you work.
@stevewhite6252
@stevewhite6252 3 роки тому
An idea that I have been wanting to try is to use a discarded DishTV antenna. Use the same "Space Blanket" foil to glue to the antenna. The antenna is an accurate section of a parabola with off-axis focusing.
@dhaferh4995
@dhaferh4995 3 роки тому
Hi..bro ..please can you help me to write the materials that're used to make the blanket mirror..and the steps if you can..because my university requested from us to write a report about it.
@my_dear_friend_
@my_dear_friend_ 10 місяців тому
I have done that. Found a large one (36") and covered the inside with mylar. We cut many mylar hexagons (4" in diameter) rather than a vacuum. It allowed for a wrinkle free installation with spray glue. The completed mirror put things on fire easily.
@macrumpton
@macrumpton 6 років тому
I did a similar thing a few years ago where I stapled down the mylar with a layer of cloth over it in a circle onto a piece of plywood with a hole in it that I attached my shopvac to. Then I inflated it and applied some resin to the cloth, which stuck it to the mylar. After the resin cured in a couple of hours I just cut off the dish with some scissors. It was pretty floppy, but if I added a ring like you did I imagine it would have been fine.
@AppliedScience
@AppliedScience 7 років тому
Nice! It's great to see the whole project -- including things that didn't work.
@bartacomuskidd775
@bartacomuskidd775 6 років тому
Love your work too Krasnow.. Home made ruby lasers, electron microscopes and aerogel.. forgetaboutit. Favorite is the examination of supercritical co2.. keep up the good work guys.
@josephsalavtore5790
@josephsalavtore5790 5 років тому
interesting points ,if anyone else trying to find out why solar energy for home try Ewans Energy Roadmap (just google it ) ? Ive heard some super things about it and my work buddy got amazing success with it.
@En_theo
@En_theo 5 років тому
Yeah, I liked the whole trial and errors steps, was quite satisfying to see how perservering brings results.
@gugxnxx.com.m.commerhaba2875
@gugxnxx.com.m.commerhaba2875 4 роки тому
@@En_theo TRNC .
@SciHeartJourney
@SciHeartJourney 3 роки тому
I especially love the FAILURES. A lot times I ask, "what if", and it's usually one of these failures that's my answer.
@SomeoneCommenting
@SomeoneCommenting 5 років тому
This is one of the coolest DIY videos that I have seen around for creative stuff.
@ChickensAndGardening
@ChickensAndGardening 5 років тому
Neat idea! I like how you showed your various attempts and what you learned from the failures. When I was a teen, I made a solar stove from a plan I found in a book about solar energy. It consisted of cardboard panels with aluminum foil taped on, and a plywood frame to hold it all together. Certainly not the most elegant thing, but it worked pretty well and I astounded my family by cooking a hamburger with it!
@KarlsLabReport
@KarlsLabReport 3 роки тому
Joe Tairei I read that same book as a kid!!! Great stuff!
@KipIngram
@KipIngram 4 роки тому
DUDE - this is absolutely awesome. Best creative thinking I've seen in ages.
@cornpop7805
@cornpop7805 4 роки тому
Not bad at all! I like this design better than the one where they temporarily suck the dome in from the rear, yours has a fixed focal point, which makes it better for a lot of applications. Thanks for sharing, the compressed air + fiberglass idea was brilliant!
@paulneilson6117
@paulneilson6117 4 роки тому
I was playing with these long ago. After several versions I made just two flat rings around 3 feet in diameter. I placed a tire valve into a hole drilled into the rings. Then I took a clear piece and a mirrored piece placed them together and bonded them between the rings so the valve is between the films. Then pump air inside and it inflates like a balloon. The rings keep the lens stable. This can be scaled up quite easily to make giant mirrors. If you wish to replicate this feel free to do so. You may need to add a spacer ring to allow the space for the valve.
@macrumpton
@macrumpton 3 роки тому
I remember seeing this scheme in a drawing of some proposed solar reflectors destined for orbit. They used an inflatable torus for the ring. The thing I like about this is that it can be safely depowered by changing the pressure inside to make a convex mirror.
@camrouxbg
@camrouxbg 3 роки тому
This is beautiful, and a fantastic idea! As a physics teacher myself I will be sure to make one of these as demo pieces for my students. But I would also show your video so they can see the process you used and that initial failure... er... learning experience. Thanks so much!
@SapioiT
@SapioiT 2 роки тому
As a student who can legally be a teacher, I have to mention that you can use different materials, as well. For example, instead of fiberglass, a bit more resin and more layers of paper might work better, or even cardboard, or a mix of both. Instead of mylar, you can use wider rolls of aluminium foil (tinfoil) than those used for cooking. Even aluminium foil for cooking works, for smaller parabolic mirrors, especially for smaller parabolic curvature. You can even make reflective telescopes that way, with paper, tinfoil, and black plastic bags to make the paper tube of the telescope opaque, and have the paper tube hardened by resin, and have enough layers of paper, so it won't easily be crushed.
@FallLineJP
@FallLineJP 3 роки тому
Very cool! I think you might get an even better result by making the circle frame for the mirror first (ensure it is perfectly circular), then gluing the space blanket to that.
@catherinetodd
@catherinetodd 5 років тому
Terrific video! Can't wait to try out some of these fantastic DIY ideas. Thanks!
@rubentrujillo3511
@rubentrujillo3511 6 років тому
absolutely amazing, innovative craftsmanship and video!!!!
@LesJohnson-GFTV
@LesJohnson-GFTV 3 роки тому
love your videos Years ago I had the experience of coming off an escalator and almost stumbled because my eye caught a mirror setup like yours but with two little differences that made it eye catching. One they had some surface that was a bit more mirror like so the reflection was good. Two they had not backed the mirror up with a hard surface - it was stretched taut across a ring and the space was pumped with a small bellows that caused the internal pressure to go positive and negative. So their mirror was like a fun house one - cycling between concave and convex. Very arresting image.
@DaveHax
@DaveHax 7 років тому
That's really cool! How long does it take to set cardboard on fire on a sunny day?
@Nighthawkinlight
@Nighthawkinlight 7 років тому
No more than a second or two
@atomic_wait
@atomic_wait 6 місяців тому
@@Nighthawkinlight Always humbling to see how much energy the sun dumps onto a square meter of the Earth every second, even far from the tropics, despite being 150,000,000km away. Just too bad it's difficult to capture and store all that energy at an industrial scale.
@informalchipmunk5775
@informalchipmunk5775 3 місяці тому
Davehax wtf
@tom7467097
@tom7467097 7 років тому
I'd love to see more of this telescope project!
@hartleyhubbard3827
@hartleyhubbard3827 4 місяці тому
Great demonstration on how to build your own parabolic mirror. I was considering buying one from Amazon, but not now. I really appreciate comments of failure or "this didn't work like I thought it would.." and then how you fixed it. Keep up the great discoveries for us folks out here in bleachers, watching you. Hartley (garden grove, CA)
@andrewdewar8159
@andrewdewar8159 3 роки тому
I've always wanted to make one of those, and you came up with a good idea to form the paraboloid shape
@mortimersnurd6416
@mortimersnurd6416 5 років тому
Bought a ten pack on Amazon. I used spray adhesive and glued several gold foil space blankets to a tarp. Tried it out a couple of times and it reduced the temperature under them by 20 degrees. Great to put over your tent when you're camping in the desert. Tried them in the winter too. Hung the tarp inside of my tent by surrounding my sleeping bag. Outside temp was 21 degrees F. Temp inside the tarp 59.
@trollmcclure1884
@trollmcclure1884 4 роки тому
or when you need to hide from police helicopters and their cheeky thermal vision
@midgetman4206
@midgetman4206 2 роки тому
@@trollmcclure1884 But the giant shiny thing is visible by our eyes
@kgfifilgil
@kgfifilgil 2 роки тому
@@midgetman4206 you can put leaves on it and stuff. It’ll still act as a barrier for infrared. Didn’t some murderous hobo hide from police helicopters like that? I forget.
@OpenSourceLowTech
@OpenSourceLowTech 4 роки тому
Nice work. Space blankets are quite transmissive, and wear very easily. I've used hydroponic mylar for parabolic troughs in the past, it's significantly more reflective, thicker, just as cheap, and a little more durable tho still not enough to just leave outside.
@davidherz9968
@davidherz9968 4 роки тому
human ingenuity is awesome, at every level, and a lot of work makes the project actually happen...
@abcstardust
@abcstardust Рік тому
Wow! Thank you for another well made, informative video. Just imagine the savings these mirrors make over burning fuels. Awesome!
@martinblouin3639
@martinblouin3639 7 років тому
you always have amazing project man! when my situation allows me, i'm gonna become a patreon for sure!
@MikkoHaavisto1
@MikkoHaavisto1 7 років тому
Great job! Thanks for including all the mistakes also.
@myoneblackfriend3151
@myoneblackfriend3151 5 років тому
You and people like you can solve this world's energy problems. Good work.
@Furby_assassin
@Furby_assassin 2 роки тому
Green power science did this many years ago. But used a garbage lid and a vacuum. It's worth a watch too. I like your design also, great work.
@ErosNicolau
@ErosNicolau 7 років тому
Such a nice project - but hearing about the "square larger in diameter" made my day :D
@MyTurtleCollab
@MyTurtleCollab 7 років тому
Sometimes I wonder if I could have done things differently. Then I remember I probably wouldn't be subscribed to this channel. What a time to be alive.
@NKG416
@NKG416 7 років тому
nice profile pic
@NKG416
@NKG416 7 років тому
+Random Stranger you talking to yourself??,cool cool
@MyTurtleCollab
@MyTurtleCollab 7 років тому
I feel it fam, don't let them nobody's bring you down ya dig
@devinmatias7528
@devinmatias7528 7 років тому
+Random Stranger possibly never run around, and hurt you?
@devinmatias7528
@devinmatias7528 7 років тому
And also it's a bit ironic being a time to be alive when your friend Nagasaki suffered a worse fate
@Allaruse
@Allaruse Рік тому
PRICELESS. Larger the radius at this curvature, the more distant the focus point. Can come in handy as alternative protection.
@jdhiv4
@jdhiv4 5 років тому
awesome transparency in you stating how much Rayton/CrowdfundX paid you! Very admirable!
@johnlbales2773
@johnlbales2773 7 років тому
I have been looking for exactly this spark of genius! Thank you so much!!!
@gabewrsewell
@gabewrsewell 7 років тому
Oh this is awesome. Thanks NHIL for posting on my birthday too!
@Nighthawkinlight
@Nighthawkinlight 7 років тому
Happy birthday!
@gabewrsewell
@gabewrsewell 7 років тому
Thank you both!
@zoowoo7898
@zoowoo7898 7 років тому
happy birth day
@TheFilledk
@TheFilledk 7 років тому
Happy birthday GabeS :-D
@gabewrsewell
@gabewrsewell 7 років тому
Thank you two as well!
@naturelife418
@naturelife418 2 роки тому
An absolutely stunning piece of craftmanship and innovation.
@crustycobs2669
@crustycobs2669 4 роки тому
Brillaint concept, insightful construction process, well produced video!
@tonymengela
@tonymengela 7 років тому
make a round ring to hold the mylar down instead of just epoxy, then you can really put pressure to the mylar. Make the ring just smaller than where you glue and round the edges 2mm radius "so mylar does not tear" then run your fiberglass and fiberglass the ring to the mylar as well. Now you have the stable mirror and you do it all in one process.
@lidakirichenko2534
@lidakirichenko2534 4 роки тому
Good congratulations!!
@WaltRBuck
@WaltRBuck 7 років тому
You're a fan of GreenPowerScience? Love your customization of these products. Some of which I've seen elsewhere and some I've seen here originally. The ones I've seen elsewhere are still cool because of the customization.
@diethardmichaelmeyer3664
@diethardmichaelmeyer3664 4 роки тому
Revolution! Perfect Idea for selfmade!
@myownwebsite0000
@myownwebsite0000 4 роки тому
Green Power Science , Dan, did a similar project years ago. A practical application is for a long distance laser communicator collector-receiver with the light sensor at the focus area. Thumbs up, nice construction methods.
@fCauneau
@fCauneau 5 років тому
Nice, but note obvious the resulting shape should be parabolic. Due to the equilibrium between tensions (i.e. blanket and pressures), it rather be closer to a spherical shape. This explains the aberrations we see when you blow smoke at the focal point... but it's a better point because you need a good repartition to heat, e.g. water in there !
@jimmimak
@jimmimak 3 роки тому
To make a telescope, the parabolic curve would have to be much, much shallower to get a longer focal length. Telescopes tend to have f ratios of a minimum of about f/4, and anything up to f/12, meaning the diameter of the mirror is 1/4 or 1/12 the focal length. So for a 1 foot diameter mirror, you want a 4 foot to 12 foot focal length. The mirror shown here seems to have an f ratio of about f/1. To make a shallower curve, you could pour water into the middle of the mylar, stretched over a circular hole. Stretch the mylar out very tightly by clamping with lots of G-clamps over another material to spread the load. It is important to get the tension equal all the way around to get a symmetrical shape. You can check the focal length by shining a torch onto the mirror and trying to get the reflected image of the torch's filament or LED in focus. However, the water will probably affect the focal length, but I haven't done the calculations to work it out. I like the fibreglass idea, but you could probably bond a rigid support to the fibreglass with vertical and horizontal cross brace rib pieces similar to an aeroplane wing construction, before removing the clamps. Then bond those ribs to a solid base and cylindrical side-wall and it will be really rigid. I'm not sure how viable this mylar would be for imaging, as it looks a bit uneven and the reflections look kind of blurry when compared to a polished piece of metal or metalized glass mirror. Another method to consider is metal spinning - spin a large piece of sheet metal and bend using a tool to match a former underneath. I wonder if vacuum-forming (vac-form over a large open hole) could be used with a metal-coated plastic sheet, or maybe you could electroless-plate a normal piece of vac-formed plastic with metal? You could even ditch the vacuum and use heat to make the material sag under its own weight, or use water or sand to weigh it down.
@leehaelters6182
@leehaelters6182 2 роки тому
@jimmimak, it seems to me that the curve achieved by the air pressure method in the video must be spherical, rather than parabolic, as the pressure will be exerted perdendicularly to the surface at all points. Continued inflation would lead to a spherical bubble, if the material was elastic enough. Your method of dishing the surface using the weight of water must give a different curve, as the direction of the force applied at all points will remain almost perfectly parallel over the width of the surface, I imagine. I want to think that the curve achieved would be parabolic, but I cannot determine why it should not be a catenary, which is the curve assumed by a cable or thread strung between two points and acted on only by gravity. Do you have any thoughts on this?
@leehaelters6182
@leehaelters6182 2 роки тому
If elaborate on this with a thought experiment, I wondered if the focal length of the curve with the water method could be controlled by adding a greater weight of water. That is to say, I imagine the mirror at the bottom of a column of water, however, I think that this puts us back in the position of hydraulic pressure, rather than pneumatic, acting equally over the surface and forming a sherical dish. Does this contradict the idea that the elastic mirror, responding to the pressure applied by water filled only to its brim, might give the parabola we seek? What do you think?
@jimmimak
@jimmimak 2 роки тому
@@leehaelters6182 Interesting ideas. I think you're correct about the hydraulic pressure, but my guess is the difference would be too subtle to notice. Perhaps with a denser material you would get a more noticeable parabola? To make the parabola, I've had a few ideas, but they might be too wacky or extreme as the shape needed is probably more subtle. 1. Very stretchy membrane material like spandex. 2. Material that progressively gets thinner towards the centre. 3. Several layered membranes with holes/apertures in the centre getting progressively smaller. 4. Membrane material with a low elastic limit, so that it plastically deforms? Like bread dough. 5. By heating a piece of plastic more in the centre than at the edge (think vacuum formed plastic). 6. Fill membrane with varying densities of material, more dense in the middle (pitch or sand?), lighter material at the rim (oil?). Oil and water can self separate due to their densities, so maybe that mechanism can be used to get the shape you want.
@spod32827
@spod32827 2 роки тому
Thank you for sharing this process. Fascinating!
@XantherBlaze
@XantherBlaze 3 роки тому
The light rays coming down onto that mirror in a cone shape is so beautiful.
@philiplindquist87
@philiplindquist87 3 роки тому
The cone shape is not coming down, it is of course, the reflected light going up to the focal point and beyond.
@wormhole331
@wormhole331 3 роки тому
I think you'd get a smoother finish if you do a gel coat. Vacuum the resin to get air bubbles out. Pour resin like you did in the center but don't touch it. Let it spread thin and let it set up until hard but still a little tacky and then put some layers of fiberglass as you did. It should be super smooth.
@naughtyboys2381
@naughtyboys2381 Рік тому
I think it would be more accurate if the resin is poured first and then inflated the parabola?
@electronicshelpcare
@electronicshelpcare 5 років тому
Wow!
@federicomachon8841
@federicomachon8841 2 роки тому
Bro thanks. I saw someone may be you, that did something similar but put the blanket on a frame and did a vacuum Blessings, I like the video a lot
@Matchhead79
@Matchhead79 5 років тому
I identify with your thought process. Well conceived
@rayamaya8319
@rayamaya8319 5 років тому
This method might work for making parabolic sound collectors like you see on the sidelines at football games. Nighthawk, maybe you could make one and see how well it picks up distant sounds. Thanks for all your work!
@favoritemustard3542
@favoritemustard3542 4 роки тому
Hmm ...I picked up a snow sled at the end of last season for $1.50... Have been using it to help rake up leaves but I think I'll put my mic on "interview" mode & tape my phone to the middle..!
@wictimovgovonca320
@wictimovgovonca320 3 роки тому
Now that is an excellent idea as the wavelength is so large that a perfect parabola is not needed. I expect that more layers of fibreglass would help however.
@brokenpencil57
@brokenpencil57 2 роки тому
See comment way above regarding the apparent focal length of F 1.0. -waay too shorth, meaning that the focus (point where you're listening) is equal to the lens diameter, or about 3 feet away for this one. Would need a much, much flatter shape, say 50 yards/1 yard lens, so F 50.
@Impatient_Ape
@Impatient_Ape 3 роки тому
When you look into the mylar and see your reflection, is the image crystal clear like it is in your bathroom mirror? If there's any fuzziness at all, then it really won't be suitable as a telescope mirror. Furthermore, the tolerances required for the paraboloid shape are tight in order to get a clear image. But don't despair -- there are other good uses for an approximate paraboloid -- like the solar cooker you've shown. I know that -- in theory -- rotating a shallow dish of liquid will generate a parabolic shape, but the liquid needs to have viscosity high enough to damp out waves and turbulence, and you'd probably need to run it for a while until the final shape is stable. I wondered if a long-curing syrup-like 2-part epoxy, rotating in a shallow dish would solidify into a nice parabolic shape. This could then be used to (1) make a long-distance acoustic spying device or (2) serve as a template for making parabolic surfaces via vacuum forming hot thin plastic sheet.
@nunyabusiness863
@nunyabusiness863 3 роки тому
Excellently done. Thank you for posting!
@kkd155
@kkd155 4 роки тому
It is great for my current research on optical communication, thanks for sharing. I have a few questions. 1. It seems that the surface is parabolic, what is the math behind? 2. How to ensure the curve accuracy as we expected when you use fiberglass to fix the surface? You seems to put extra air therein. 3. What if you inflate the mylar downwards above the surface of some kind of liquid? By fine tuning the air pressure, you can get a good shape as the liquid becomes solid.
@2Langdon
@2Langdon 4 роки тому
Excellent! I'm interested in parabolics for solar heat investigations and this looks like the best construction method I've seen so far. Thanks v much. I don't know enough to understand the geometry, so do you know if your inflation shaping method could produce a parabolic trough? If the film was glued down around a long thin rectangle? Hmm, I guess you would have to shape the ends.
@stephensimmons2595
@stephensimmons2595 5 років тому
Spinning a fluid or liquid in a round flat container will cause the liquid or fluid to form a Parabolic shape If you use resin once it hardens you have a perfect Parabolic shape or you can use large amount of mercury to make a telescope mirror as long as you keep it spinning. I have used this in making telescope mirrors in a glass furnace to cut down the grinding of mirror for telescopes.
@benoit8850
@benoit8850 4 роки тому
Was going to comment this. Make a mold from concrete spinning in a round container
@sanjuktakumar4517
@sanjuktakumar4517 4 роки тому
I liked the way you tried making another attempt ......after a lot of hardwork 👍☺️☺️☺️
@TheRealKitWalker
@TheRealKitWalker 3 роки тому
This is very cool. This at least has convinced me to try it on my own. 👏👏🤓 Really great DIY !! 👌
@puffinjuice
@puffinjuice 8 місяців тому
Nice video! I was thinking it might be easier to create a high quality mirror without the fibreglass. Just create a box with a circular hole, place the film over the hole, and apply suction to the box. I know it will be more fragile, but the mirror would be near perfect. Also the focal length would be adjustable. There might be some limitations I'm not aware of, but would be interesting to compare the performance of both methods.
@electronicsNmore
@electronicsNmore 7 років тому
Very easy to make, and it packs some heat! :-) I have to say, the audio quality of your videos is outstanding. I need to look for better audio recording equipment.
@Nighthawkinlight
@Nighthawkinlight 7 років тому
Thanks! The Blue Yeti seems to be the youtube standard mic. I use a Shure VP83f which isn't made for vocals specifically but works well.
@electronicsNmore
@electronicsNmore 7 років тому
+NightHawkInLight Thanks!
@farficknuger3673
@farficknuger3673 3 роки тому
Hahahaha caulk ring
@catthecommentbothunter6890
@catthecommentbothunter6890 2 роки тому
@@Nighthawkinlight i made my own concave mirror but in a smaller diameter because im gonna use it to my telescope
@JohnboyCollins
@JohnboyCollins 3 роки тому
Using a high density closed cell polyurethane pour foam works great for me too. Doesn't require any extra reinforcement.
@candreel
@candreel Рік тому
In addition to information, great pronunciation, speed of speech and diction! I subscribed to your channel for 2 reasons: for inventions and to practice English. Congratulations on your channel!
@frollard
@frollard 7 років тому
My thought would be to make it as a vacuum system -- build the frame, seal it up, add mylar, then pull a vacuum to get an adjustable focal length. The pressure would keep the shape.
@j.g.campbell3440
@j.g.campbell3440 7 років тому
You wouldn't be able to cover the back side of the mirror . It would be inside the vacuum chamber.
@frollard
@frollard 7 років тому
imagine if you will...a vacuum is pulled inside a bucket with a mylar surface sealed over the opening...
@frollard
@frollard 7 років тому
double post: and you keep the vacuum to keep the shape. If you want to change focus you change the pressure.
@JMP_2203
@JMP_2203 7 років тому
I believe that is the basic process for how some telescope mirrors are made.
@jonathanlange1339
@jonathanlange1339 6 років тому
Very good idea!
@simonbergman5970
@simonbergman5970 7 років тому
5:40 marriage in one sentence.
@favoritemustard3542
@favoritemustard3542 4 роки тому
Marriage *IS* a sentence!
@V.Z.69
@V.Z.69 4 роки тому
@@favoritemustard3542 "Some calk secures the ring in place" -- calk sounds like the rooster, cock.
@helpmeiamenslaved3116
@helpmeiamenslaved3116 4 роки тому
Wooooow
@SDS-1
@SDS-1 4 роки тому
Not if she finds a bigger tube
@Elie-J-Saoud
@Elie-J-Saoud 4 роки тому
4:05 looks more realistic :)
@termlimitscom8739
@termlimitscom8739 4 роки тому
Dude you got me hooked with starlight.... now this? Amazing👍👍👍👍👍
@richardpeterson3753
@richardpeterson3753 4 роки тому
I use a hygene mirror in my camp kit for solar ignition. Was cheap and is durable. And will light a match without any issue. The concept of parabolic dishes is excelent and i think there is tons more potential in this we have yet to tap into. Obviously my little mirror wont melt bricks but for a few buck, and for its intended use, its hard to beat
@GreenCanvasInteriorscape
@GreenCanvasInteriorscape 10 місяців тому
Please describe a hygiene mirror and how you start fires with it? I looked up that term and came up with nothing
@sacielo
@sacielo 3 роки тому
Awesome idea! I suspect matemaematically this should be a catenary, not an exact parabola, but it burns cardboard, so it is close enough! What if you sucked the air out instead of inflating it? I mean, with the circle already in place and closed from the bottom.
@jamesmcpherson3924
@jamesmcpherson3924 Рік тому
Came here to make the same comment!
@my_dear_friend_
@my_dear_friend_ 10 місяців тому
It would make it very difficult to fiberglass the inside of the mylar.
@qazmatron
@qazmatron Рік тому
Alternative: A "rotating liquid-metal mirror" automatically makes a perfect parabola, but only while it's spinning. If you instead spin resin (or molten glass or molten aluminum) until it hardens, you've made a smooth parabolic surface (which then must be "corrected" if necessary, polished, and possibly plated with reflective metal). You have to spin a "pan" that closely approximates the paraboloid you want (CNC cut or 3-D printed); the more it departs from perfect, the more liquid you need to cover it. (If the resin floats on water, maybe you could use a plain cylindrical vessel filled with water as the parabolic "pan".) Problems: Air currents could make the parabola slightly imperfect. When the rotation stops, centrifugal force stops, and the shape will change very slightly. Dust, etc can settle on the resin while it hardens.
@my_dear_friend_
@my_dear_friend_ 10 місяців тому
Mercury ought to work. :)
@qazmatron
@qazmatron 10 місяців тому
A working liquid-mirror telescope *(mercury)* was built in 1872, when mechanical engineering became good enough to maintain the required constant rotation speed. I remember reading that the ground vibration from a horse and carriage passing nearby was enough to degrade the image because they didn't have air bearings for maximum isolation. Rotating mercury mirrors were used even in the 2010s, and some are planned.
@my_dear_friend_
@my_dear_friend_ 10 місяців тому
@@qazmatron - And again, I am too late. :) Interesting to know about the use of mercury for that purpose. Thanks for sharing.
@A.Netizen.Since.2010
@A.Netizen.Since.2010 5 місяців тому
​@@my_dear_friend_ ..But isn't Mercury highly poisonous ?
@my_dear_friend_
@my_dear_friend_ 5 місяців тому
@@A.Netizen.Since.2010 - Very much so.
@dansisco3076
@dansisco3076 3 роки тому
You certainly fired my imagination awesome demonstration thanks!
@theducklinghomesteadandgar6639
@theducklinghomesteadandgar6639 5 років тому
Awesome job!!! I have been thinking of making one using HVAC aluminum tape, but the seams at each joint would have decreased efficiency! I haven't been by a supply house lately to have gotten any to give it a try. I like this version much better I think anyways as the surface would be seamless and I believe more shiny! I am pretty sure the tape has a bit more of a dull shine than that of the mylar and would need a buffing shine, if it could handle the friction and if it could even become more shiny, would it have come close to this!!! Thanks so much for sharing and offering the link for the solar company!!! Familia love & May GOD bless and keep you and yours, today and always!!!
@IspiraGaming
@IspiraGaming 7 років тому
A $1 space blanket... And $200 of other supplies. Jokes aside pretty cool.
@zacharysaintcyr1725
@zacharysaintcyr1725 7 років тому
1$ blanket 20$ of wood 10$ of backing 10$ of fencing 20$ of resin seems pretty cool for a mirror that sets stuff on fire
@JonBruce-BlueDev
@JonBruce-BlueDev 7 років тому
True, but a 2-inch magnifying glass will start a fire too. That's closer to $3. I used to use magnifying lenses to start fires all the time. I got really fast at it.
@JonBruce-BlueDev
@JonBruce-BlueDev 7 років тому
***** I actually started a fire with a 1-inch magnifying glass in about 10 seconds. Not just a smolder, a flame. I've done it plenty of times, and a 6-inch lens can start a fire within just a couple seconds.
@JonBruce-BlueDev
@JonBruce-BlueDev 7 років тому
***** Never thought to or tried to, but as that is several thousand degrees my thoughts are that it would take a well-shaped 2-foot lens. :P
@JonBruce-BlueDev
@JonBruce-BlueDev 7 років тому
***** I've seen and studied fresnel lenses on and off, actually visited a lighthouse in Oregon that used massive ones. Pretty cool lenses. :)
@willcool713
@willcool713 3 роки тому
I know this is a very old vid, but this is a thought experiment I run in my head, ad infinitum: How to make a big mirror for a Dobsonian telescope. There was an article in Popular Science, I believe, which had a great method -- basically a 15"-20" bowl, on an old record turntable with the central spindle removed, filled with very slow setting epoxy. And set the whole thing up on some foam in a place far from traffic or other vibrations. It creates a parabolic surface, the focal distance determined by the RPMs of the turntable. But you still have to send out for silvering. I love to think on ways to achieve such a surface myself. This is a clever solution, I wonder how I could manipulate a space blanket to work with an existing parabolic form?
@tomsuit124
@tomsuit124 3 роки тому
A telescope mirror has a surface figure that must be accurate to a fraction of a wavelength of light. Given that, the approach of using mylar has a lot of challenges that might be insurmountable. The main one I see is that it's soft so it will deform due to uneven weight of the fiberglass. That will create zones (visible in the video). Secondly, the fabric of the fiberglass will print through. Thirdly, I don't know how smooth the surface of the mylar sheet is so even with a perfect figure there will be a lot of scattering. I think flipping it upside down (concave side up) and displacing a liquid epoxy like you mentioned would be a better approach. you would need a machined ring at the edges to prevent distortions at the edge. You can see some of those in the video. For a solar furnace this thing is brilliant! (Couldn't resist)
@buddyblock3755
@buddyblock3755 2 роки тому
chrome paint
@michaelmorris3064
@michaelmorris3064 2 роки тому
Nice I've used this polyester to reflect sunlight off of windows for years I knew this material was good thank you thank you thank you
@goelkiran
@goelkiran 5 років тому
Really liked the concept and effort
@michaelcoslo6497
@michaelcoslo6497 7 років тому
Have you gotten anywhere with the use of one as a telescope mirror? That will be tougher of course, but this is seriously interesting. I've made a number of mirros for telescopes and there are some very different designs, like spherical mirros that are pulled into a parabola with a bolt on the bottom. Anyhow, good luck, and I'll be checking back to see your progress. In the meantime think relatively large in diameter, and short in focal length. Both will make for a mirror that doesn't need quite as high quality.
@Nighthawkinlight
@Nighthawkinlight 7 років тому
I haven't progressed on this experiment since this video, too busy with other projects. I have plans to get back to it next spring if I can. Lots of ideas to test
@GlutenEruption
@GlutenEruption 7 років тому
The easiest way to do that would be to use something like what he used to draw his circle, stretch Mylar tight over that, and then pull a vacuum on it. That's the method used on some actual telescopes and since you are using air pressure which is completely even over the surface, it will come out perfect
@Berkana
@Berkana 7 років тому
This mirror is not usable as a telescope mirror because it isn't a parabola; any mirror produced by air pressure against a membrane will be spherical in shape, not parabolic. (Think of a soap bubble as an example of a membrane resisting air pressure. It forms a sphere.) This is space blanket mirror is just a segment of a sphere.
@kyd1972
@kyd1972 6 років тому
+Berkana, yes. Exactly. Thank you for posting this reply.
@garyhunt5845
@garyhunt5845 5 років тому
@@Nighthawkinlight Have you had a chance to progress further on your astronomical telescope convex mirror? I agree with some of the comments about the correct curvature... this may require a way of monitoring the degree of curvature to achieve the correct focus angle for the telescope you need it for? Not being a very practical guy... it would be great to see an innovator like yourself come up with the solutions before I get my hands dirty!😆 Happy New Year (2019) by the way!
@mute8s
@mute8s 7 років тому
What if you used the dish from a satellite tv antenna? It would make a nice rigid form too. Aren't satellite dishes true parabolas? I could be wrong about that though.
@namibjDerEchte
@namibjDerEchte 7 років тому
They are good and rigid, but expensive.
@Wanderlust1972
@Wanderlust1972 7 років тому
people toss those daily
@mute8s
@mute8s 7 років тому
zasabiibasaz my thoughts exactly. :)
@namibjDerEchte
@namibjDerEchte 7 років тому
mute8s Yes, you should be able to use a sattelite dish. I just meant it would likely be cheaper to build them his way, if you want to have a lot of them.
@pixelmaniac8534
@pixelmaniac8534 7 років тому
Not to mention this process stretches the creases away to make a much smoother finish.
@MrMegaPussyPlayer
@MrMegaPussyPlayer 5 років тому
Nice! I almost got instantly ideas of my own that might or (more likely) might not work better. Which I might try in future (if I find the time)
@andersonboy620
@andersonboy620 4 роки тому
Great job man, very inspiring, thanks a lot!
@LL-fw7hi
@LL-fw7hi 3 роки тому
Hmm, wouldn't inflation create something approaching a spherical shape rather than parabolic? Obviously not in this case but I would love to know why. Also, if this is anything like using gravity to make a parabola what it actually makes is a catenary which would be fine for solar but probs wouldn't work for telescopes.
@martynh5410
@martynh5410 3 роки тому
I agree with you. This is a great way to make a reflector for solar use but it won’t be a parabola and even if it was a parabola, it’s never going to be smooth to a 1/4 wave (some mirrors for astronomy telescopes are 1/10 wave).
@wictimovgovonca320
@wictimovgovonca320 3 роки тому
This technique has been used for decades by amateur radio operators to make "parabolic" reflectors for antennas. There the tolerances are not as critical as the wavelengths are relatively large. I don't think a telescope is possible as you would want a fraction of a very small wavelength (good optical mirrors are about 1/10 wavelength). For concentrating sunlight however, this is a good compromise. We can start a fire with a small magnifying glass, so a 3'mirror should be good enough even though it does not have pinpoint focus
@davesmith9325
@davesmith9325 2 роки тому
I also think it's not a parabola. A parabola has the sharpest curve at the centre, I suspect this has the sharpest curve at the edge ?. It should be easy enough to Ray trace it and discover its coma ?
@Erikkaa7
@Erikkaa7 2 роки тому
Mirors for astronomy are incredibly difficult to make. They must be perfect to the micron. It's why they are so expensive to produce. This is Definitly a wonderful projet for solar cooker, long range micro or wifi. With old recycled satellit parabola this technique could probably work. It reminds me i have to repair my bicycle tire :-)
@cameik
@cameik 4 роки тому
Two things, 1) I have used a solar blanket to shield the sun from south- facing apartments that were experiencing oven- like temperatures unless the air conditioning was on continuously. When stretched tightly over the window, you could see outside perfectly like through mirrored sunglasses. The Mylar film was allowing about 30% of the light through, not the best thing for solar concentration, but I am impressed how it does work in your video. Thin aluminum foil reflects 100% of the light... Could this idea be revisited using this instead? Where can you get a wide enough roll? With the same bonding process to fiberglass, the fragile foil would become a strong structure. 2) With this process, the shape created would not be a parabola, it would be more like the a section of the edge of a balloon, spherical in shape, good enough for the purpose, but less than perfect. Try as you might, but I doubt you get an optical surface that would work for a telescope... What DID work was a spinning dish with reflective mercury placed in it, the liquid automatically forms a perfect parabola, whose curve depends on the speed at which it is spun, but it is obviously constrained to only being able to point straight up... Hmmm, any way this could be used with an epoxy type liquid that is spun until it sets?
@stargazer7644
@stargazer7644 Рік тому
Thats exactly how they make very large (8 meter) telescope mirrors. They melt glass and very, very slowly let it cool while spinning it. It takes a couple months.
@rossroderickwhitney
@rossroderickwhitney 5 років тому
A really beautifully made documentary!
@HamiltonSRink
@HamiltonSRink 4 роки тому
Nice job! One possible improvement, add a variable pressure regulator, and a compressor with a large tank reservoir. That way you can control the pressure by turning a knob. Small leaks would not affect the shape at all as the supply would keep the pressure constant.
@brokenpencil57
@brokenpencil57 2 роки тому
+ $1000
@bigfoxki
@bigfoxki 7 років тому
5:00 Feels like those Ohm's eyes from Nausicaä of the Valley of the Wind...
@SatanicJamnic
@SatanicJamnic 7 років тому
Next video - make it heat water in copper pipes and make it rotating, to falllow the sun with arduino.
@TheBackyardScientist
@TheBackyardScientist 7 років тому
Easier to use black hose :p
@MasterBlaster110
@MasterBlaster110 7 років тому
you don't need an arduino, you just need a cross made from small solar cells which is attached to the mirror. the solar cell outputs are crosswired to the DC tracking motors and the cross is mounted in a way that the sun isn't shining at the solar cell faces but at the edges. :)
@MasterBlaster110
@MasterBlaster110 7 років тому
it's almost stupidly simple. no electronics needed at all, not even a battery or power supply!
@AAA-bo1uo
@AAA-bo1uo 7 років тому
you won't need copper pipes mate.. just get half a barrel, fill with water and aim the lens at near bottom, make sure your barrel can breath a bit.. wont take long and it doesn't need to follow the sun, 1 good hour is more than enough.. this thing can melt metal in not a very long time, water would be stopping your barrel from melting. whwre i am, we don't have electricity so we made 1/4 of a barrel (cut a barrel down and welded it) and connected it to my water tank, i heat water using wood or gas (mainly wood), but those can get expensive.. i need one of these lenses or anything that can focus a big area somehow, those blankets aren't available here. glass is out of the question.. i tend to use a 10m black 1/4 inch garden hose for showering, but you cant make everyone shower with that alone.. need something bigger for the house..
@misaalanshori
@misaalanshori 7 років тому
+AA A if you dont have electricity, how did you comment this?
@everydaycompress4259
@everydaycompress4259 Рік тому
dude ...clap* amazing really i remember seeing these online about 10 years ago and they are pricey .i use fresnel lens but always wanted a parabolic mirror
@AbyssinianEmerald
@AbyssinianEmerald 5 років тому
Awesome - i'm going to try something similar, but i'm going to approach it with vacuum and use a wide mountain bike rim (or maybe 2 stacked and bonded)... either way, maintaining the shape while fighting gravity and/or resin viscosity will be the tricky part. Anyway, nice work - thanks for sharing!
@kappelp2781
@kappelp2781 3 роки тому
mishin ebythie
@alex1carm
@alex1carm 7 років тому
Time to get six of these, an old crt screen and do some careful math and finally build that heat/death ray I've been wanting to take over the world
@auxilator1939
@auxilator1939 4 роки тому
you best finish before night time if you want to get anything done
@fire7side
@fire7side 5 років тому
Interesting. I was thinking of using a space blanket for a box solar oven. Looks like it will work.
@tyedontreyvonsanders7838
@tyedontreyvonsanders7838 5 років тому
very well made video. i agree with Applied Science. i wanted to make one, but didn't know where to start. Now I do. Thank you.
@lukestockett252
@lukestockett252 Рік тому
That is such a great idea on how to make your own large parabolic mirrors! I would like to see this applied to a solar powered wood gas generator, for people who live in the desert.
@newphysicist
@newphysicist 7 років тому
I've made a parabolic solar reflector. Just uploaded the video on UKposts. thank you
@ronaldvankuyk908
@ronaldvankuyk908 2 роки тому
Gold foil emercy blankets reflect infr red heat better ronadam
@topwatertv7492
@topwatertv7492 4 роки тому
“A weight from my work bench” *slaps a brake drum on top of it* 😂
@peety6333
@peety6333 4 роки тому
He he he
@b-raj
@b-raj 5 років тому
Parabolic dish making very easy to showing.I love and thanks this video
@Phil-dg1yg
@Phil-dg1yg 4 роки тому
man ! it s so good! please , try to cross the fibre ( 0-90 degrees) or more layer crossed evenly..it should be more stable!
@LeonardGreenpaw
@LeonardGreenpaw 7 років тому
NEXT DO FRESNEL LENS PLEASE
@Nighthawkinlight
@Nighthawkinlight 7 років тому
What would you like to see with a fresnel lens?
@pbpbpbpbpbpbpbpbpb
@pbpbpbpbpbpbpbpbpb 7 років тому
I guess burn stuff
@LeonardGreenpaw
@LeonardGreenpaw 7 років тому
NightHawkInLight How to make one cheaply and as easy as this!
@pbpbpbpbpbpbpbpbpb
@pbpbpbpbpbpbpbpbpb 7 років тому
Yeah that would be awesome, but quite challenging as well, I guess
@Nighthawkinlight
@Nighthawkinlight 7 років тому
That would be really difficult. You can buy them though on ebay or amazon in a 5 pack for like $12
@Advection357
@Advection357 5 років тому
The Brain: "I shall make one the size of the moon & finally conquer Earth!" Pinky: "I'm hungry & we're out of cheese."
@V.Z.69
@V.Z.69 4 роки тому
Mirascope, concave reflections at a VERY far distance... sees a map in the sky at high contrast... let's call it moon. Present day, look at the "moon". But it's still the map reflected in the sky. Yes.
@mikeriley9915
@mikeriley9915 3 роки тому
Lol great one
@wanderleysilvaoliveira1682
@wanderleysilvaoliveira1682 5 років тому
Thanks for sharing your project/ideas.
@peety6333
@peety6333 4 роки тому
Wow, that's amazing and fun to watch!
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