Thanks for the compliment.

@@HarleyDavidsonWizard what city and state are you in brother want to bring my bike to you

I'm at Motor City Harley Davidson in Farmington Hills Michigan.

Is it a oem Harley transmission? What year road king. 5 or 6 speed?

@@HarleyDavidsonWizard it is an '03 CVO. 5 speed but I want to convert to 6 speed.

Good luck with this

Twice Ive had new bikes come in with missing the (lock ring 1/2 moon shaped things) and the gear set would make noise when the bike was leaned in one direction but not in the other. But its been very rare.

​@@HarleyDavidsonWizard Thank you very much for your reply.

Belray Hypoid gear oil. I believe its 75-140w.

In that situation I use a cut off wheel and grind a groove in the bearing race and place a large chisel in the groove and wack it with a hammer to crack the bearing race. I use a digital caliper to check the depth of cut so I dont cut into the main shaft like they do in this vid. Watch "Class #10 - How to Remove a Walked Inner Race Without Damaging the Mainshaft" on UKposts ukposts.info/have/v-deo/saOBmZurq6CI04k.html. I havent done there second method but I'm sure it works.

Remove rside cover loosen ms and tap out a bit

It doesn't matter. The greatset will cone out In any gear.

You dont need to remove the large nut that holds on the front belt sprocket. Once u get the primary off and remove in inner primary bearing race off the main shaft the trans will slide out of the trans case. Dont forget you'll need to remover the trans top cover and pull the shifter lever of the shift drum. And remove the dipstick .

@@HarleyDavidsonWizard thanks for the info! I really appreciate it!! Hope to get the ol skooter going again soon

What's the time stamp on the video where I use the too? I'll help me identify the tool your asking about.

Here’s the follow up vid where we complete this project ukposts.info/have/v-deo/ZX-gi4yLhZ-VsoE.html . It doesn’t have information on the dissemble and resemble of the gear set but maybe info you’ll find useful. Good luck on your project and thanks for the complement.

@@HarleyDavidsonWizard yea let me know if you can make a video rebuilding the transmission. Mine has 50000 miles and want to do all the bearings inside. I cant find any videos on this.

Hey Brad I have a 2012 flhtk limited I put a K &N air filter RSD AND Raceing pipes, should I have it DYNO tuned?

What kind of exhaust is it?

@@HarleyDavidsonWizard the exhaust is Rinehart, sorry I didn't put that in

Sorry I dont under stand for question. Can you rephrase it?

@@HarleyDavidsonWizard Basically I pulled the main shaft and bearing out the back of the case and it broke the lip that holds the main shaft bearing in place from the transmission side. Is the case still useable or do I need to get the ring welded back in the trans?

The case would need that lip. Because the bearing is a loose fit and that lip and retaining ring are all that locate the bearing.

Red line is fine. But in my experiences there are some negatives to it. Where as with screaming eagle trans oil or belray gear oil have no negatives.

It sure is! The one I prefer that I use in the video is from Kentmore. It's a factor Harley Davidson tool and I'd bet it cost north of $300. But I've probably used it over a couple hundred times myself + all the other technicians. It does a real good job.

I'm not sure. I don't have any experience with big tire kits on older bikes.

@@HarleyDavidsonWizard thanx for the response..

Yep. That's what you normally do. I replace one at a time and you won't loose any fluid or need to replace any gaskets.

@@HarleyDavidsonWizard thank you very much I trust your opinion and God bless you and family

I baught it off the Matco tool truck years ago. It was under$15 if I remember correctly. Its not a matco branded tool but just an off brand.

You can use a special Jims tool to remove the gear select shaft without removing the whole transmission but I wouldnt expect many shops to have one, here is a vid where I uses it ukposts.info/have/v-deo/fZdmeoacnG2dyqM.html . It's a sweet tool tho. Makes it so you'd only have to remove the primary and you can leave the exhaust and transmission all intact. That is if you have a normal harley 6 speed. I dont know about tricks for any other models.

@@HarleyDavidsonWizard believe it or not it was an hd dealership/garage senior mechanic that said it had to be torn down completely. Personally I didn't and wouldn't have questioned it if not for the visual. So w/ the tare down underway I wasn't expecting a standstill

Lol I fell asleep evidently hitting the send after the standstill part. But with a bunch of useless info I was just getting around to saying thanks, as I'm sure I speak for everyone, a far future included. Thanks for your time & sharing.

The gear pack assembly (AKA 35246-10B) comes as a complete assembly, leaving just a couple bearings, front sprocket, main drive gear and primary bearings for a tech to install. Yes it reduces the chance for something to be installed incorrectly but who knows whats up with it intill it comes back apart. A good shop will take your concern seriously and rectify the situation if there is one. Sorry to hear its not going well.

@@HarleyDavidsonWizard Thank you very much for your reply, I literally was just told because I was on ESP, they couldn't just open it up again to check, basically ride until something goes wrong.. very disturbing..

​@@Stoney-Lawson Ya, some shops play situations like that. In our shop if there's a situation similar to this the dealership pays me my labor to get in and figure it out. But that's totally dealer dependent. But on the bright side if you have ESP you can take it to another dealership and they'll take it apart and ESP will pay them again to fix it. I've had a few bikes come into my shop like that before. Hope it works out,

@@HarleyDavidsonWizard Thank you very much, can I ask you aboutmy issue? if so.. here it goes I have a whine from all gears when pulling inthe clutch, it's a small high pitched whine. it goes away completely in neutral, the noise gets higher the lower the gear you go, so 2nd is lounder than 3rd, and 1st is lounder than 2nd.. any insight or hints would be great, supposedly all bearings have been replaced, do es the trans have a break in period where it could be noisy? it sounds like gear mesh.

@@Stoney-Lawson What model, year and mileage is on your bike? what happened to the original transmission?

possibly clutch slip.

In my experience the redline with shock proof is to slick. During dissembling bikes with redline shock proof you could see unusual ware patterns on bearings indicating "skating", rather than normal spinning. The redline used to be all the rage, but after a couple years in 6speeds we've found belray hypoid gear oil to be the best and that's what we recommend if people ask.

Yes. The gear sets are basically identical. The whole job actually uses the same tools, the primary's come apart the same ect. And the bearings and seals are all the same. Thanks for the view!

Cool well I’m ordering tools Monday!

@@lilrazzy95 I am removing trans on a 2017 Ultra. What special tools do I need?

@@gary8399 you need the tool for the inner bearing race on the main shaft , there is a tool for the main trans bearing and there are installers for these as well. I used the removers with the installer tools to make it work. Also the big socket for the pulley nut.

Wow! A year old and quick reply👍👍

to do a 6 speed on you bike it requires a complete new gear set. The new 6 speed kit will reuse almost noting of your original 5 speed other than the transmission case, the 6 speed kits at normally longer then your Oem setup and if you were to add reverse to it it would stick out the right sided of the bike even further, likely causing the exhaust system to have clearance issues. Id recommend calling baker transmissions and they will likely set you up with a whole new gear set and reverse kit.

@@HarleyDavidsonWizard hi txs once again ...my idea is only to remove the reverse and had 6gear ...so 6 gear and reverse is out of plan lol lol..so only option is to switch all by a 6gear kit ..i thought it would be possible to encrease only the 6gear and replace for reverse .....i am nooob kkkk by the way have you got some free files for h.d repair services???have a great day.

It's ok. But belray is the best.

Sounds like a huge undertaking. Alot of precision parts to be made and alot of custom parts to be fitted and made. Anything can be made to work. All depends on if you have the will, desire and drive to make it happen!

@@HarleyDavidsonWizard Thanks. I have the drive to make it happen.

U can use a seal bearing, Baker makes one. I havent had good good experiences with the parker one tho. And the oem inner primary bearing + race usally lasts 40k miles. I'd recomend a new oem one personally.

@@HarleyDavidsonWizard ok I have over 98k on my bike. All that was left of the bearing was shrapnel.

Ok. Ya it was due for a primary bearing. Lol. That's a lot of miles on a dyna! 👍

@@HarleyDavidsonWizard have you ever dealt with the baker 7 speeds? I just happened to see then in my search for parts

I changed out the inner primary bearing, but that didn't solve the problem....im back at the drawing board!

..must be the main bearing....(so I'm told)

The main bearing is known to eat its self up. Good news is the new replacment u buy at a dealership will be an upgraded part. Assuming u have a 6speed.

@@HarleyDavidsonWizard Upgrade? how so?

The new updated version of the main drive gear bearing is a single roller bearing with much larger balls that allows debris to be washed out of the bearing during normal use. Where as your original deighn double roller bearing "holds onto" debris inside the bearing and it eats up the bearing over time.

Yes it is.

Through daily use I use 1 ratchet strap through the front wheel and wrap it around the wheel chock so the front wheel is positivity clamped to the hoist. For certain work I use a second ratchet strap through the front wheel and wrap it around the bottom of the hoist (super duper insurance the wheel wont come out of the wheel chock). And if the bikes on the hoist over night I leave a flat jack under the back of the frame just incase the tires go flat overnight. That keeps them stable.

Can you pull the durby cover off and see the clutch diagram spring? I'd look in there.

Which bearing race are you speaking of?

@@HarleyDavidsonWizard I think he's talking about the inner primary race on the transmission shaft, the one that is prone to "walk" inward ...

Yes.

@@HarleyDavidsonWizard thank you!

Ive seen that also. lol

Yes. They sure did.

@@HarleyDavidsonWizard Awesome!!!! I have the ESP and have heard both good and bad about it. Fortunately I have not needed to find out either way!!

Very helpful video

What's the time on the vid so I see which bearing your speaking of?

5:00

So I can remove my transmission

Ok. Its the inner primary bearing race tool your looking for, there are 2 different styles. They both do the same job. The one im using in the video is the newer style Kentmore "Harley Davidson corporate tool" part number HD-34902-C. The aftermarket still makes the original style tool, here is a link to one on amazon amzn.to/2xxC41E . I have both tools. The one in the video is a little faster but the original style amazon one works well if the race has walked up the shaft and there isn't enough clearance.

Thank you!! I appreciate it!

Thanks! Us motorcycle mechanics typically have small stalls like a hairdresser. And as I was coming up through the ranks there gets to be jealousy in between mechanics especially when you're flat rate as far as who gets what kind of jobs. So I took the opportunity to be in the basement by myself and have a work area probably six times the size of my "main floor" stall. It works well as I do all the big projects, wrecks, engine/trans builds, custom projects ect. It also keeps me from getting distracted with curious customers and questions. I'm still getting used to the space. I spend so much time walking back and forth. Lol

I'm at Motor City Harley in Michigan.

Oh wow, way to far for me to bring my harley. Tranny went out recently, just pulled the Tranny out today and ordered a new used one (it's a 95 heritage, 26 years old) hard to find parts for

I like Belray the best. 👍

That's not accurate information. Using a impact such as my electric milwaukee exerts almost no shock into the crankshaft as it his so hard and fast that the bolt has no option other then to unthread, Plus that's not how flywheels shift anyway.

@@HarleyDavidsonWizard THE MOTORCYCLE IS NOT YOURS ANY WAY, DO YOUR HOME WORK READ ABOUT IT, I WOULDN'T DO THAT TO ANY MOTORCYCLE, I DO NOT WORK ON MOTORCYCLES ANY MORE NOW I WORK ON POWER PLANT JET ENGINES, AND WHEN YOU WORK ON JET ENGINES YOU DO NOT USE POWER TOOLS IMPACT OR SPEED WRENCHES YOU SHOULD KNOW THE REASON HAVE A NICE WEEKEND YOU ARE GOOD

Impacts get a bad rap imo. If you have proper fitting sockets and the correct power tools the forces applied to the head of the fasners will be surprise when you compare a loctited bolt being hand untreated threaded vs with an impact. It's in my experience that with the impact you have better control of keeping the socket perfectly square on the head of fastener and the way in that the impact delivers power unthreads, breaks the locktite quick and easily. Where as when doing it by hand your fighting the binding of the locktite and your constantly applying pressure with your ratchet then unloading against the head to ratchet, then loading with the next stroke. Where with the impact it my sound like many small blows but how it transfers to the socket & ware on the head of the fastener is less. I don't use small impacts because its a annoying sound and is just less effective. Imo.