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Puzzle FEN:
8/3P1P2/6R1/b7/8/3k1q2/8/K7 w - - 0 1
Puzzle Details:
5th Comm., 64, 1969
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@ulrichbrodowsky5016
@ulrichbrodowsky5016 Рік тому
The way both players leave their pieces undefended and attacked makes it look like one of my games!
@Brokkrgamer
@Brokkrgamer Рік тому
Lol
@matteocardetta3393
@matteocardetta3393 Рік тому
I play like that too i like to let undefended pieces to pieces that have more value or for better attak
@SilkyJohnston24
@SilkyJohnston24 Рік тому
I saw the first rook move and that was it. What an intricate position. Chess is the ultimate game of not letting your opponent know your next move.
@Retroist2024
@Retroist2024 Рік тому
But they know your next move and you know their next move and so on
@chessWoRpire1449
@chessWoRpire1449 Рік тому
Same I saw that
@georgiancountryball202
@georgiancountryball202 Рік тому
I saw it too
@deenasanthosh6977
@deenasanthosh6977 Рік тому
Me too
@huismus111
@huismus111 Рік тому
same
@allistermanoy1749
@allistermanoy1749 Рік тому
Wow! This is a really complicated position. Very hard to play for white. Thanks for telling us the winning moves nelson.
@rene5939
@rene5939 Рік тому
You mean the drawing moves, I guess…..
@christopherheckman7957
@christopherheckman7957 Рік тому
What I'm wondering is whether a computer could [currently] solve it. Positions like this give us humans hope that computers won't take over everything.
@leonator2322
@leonator2322 Рік тому
@@christopherheckman7957 it is a T-7 position all setups with 7 or less pieces are solved. So a engine with tablebase will know it is a draw
@christopherheckman7957
@christopherheckman7957 Рік тому
@@leonator2322 Thanks. I didn't know what "state of the art" was.
@guybrushthreepwood362
@guybrushthreepwood362 Рік тому
When ever I see a chess puzzle asking me who is in a winning position I will always answer white because of the conventions of the genre, just flip the colors and I would get it wrong ever time
@Immortal306
@Immortal306 Рік тому
For me the rule is whoever's turn it is, though if I can' figure out how they could possibly win, and think draw would be good in their position, the answer changes to draw.
@Mikhail-tal-the-GOAT
@Mikhail-tal-the-GOAT Рік тому
At the end black also could be fancy by playing Qd4+ followed by bishop c3+ to win the queen This was an incredible puzzle Hope i see more of these
@_Xypes_
@_Xypes_ Рік тому
At 3:40 isn’t Qf5+ possible because if queen takes we promote and get another queen?
@a_wild_Kirillian
@a_wild_Kirillian Рік тому
Then Qc5 and black has mate in 4 because white can't stop both mate threat and has to sacrifice the Queen
@niji_k
@niji_k Рік тому
Qf5+ Qxf5, d8Q Qc5. Qc5 forks two direct mate threats: Qa5# and Qb4#. White's best response here is to get the black bishop, disabling both direct mates. Qb6... would stop the mate threat temporarily, but black will then simply capture. After the black king captures the white queen back, it's king + queen vs king for black, which means white loses.
@DeSlagen8
@DeSlagen8 Рік тому
You are my favourite UKpostsr right now, keep it up
@levistepanian5341
@levistepanian5341 Рік тому
Nice puzzle, I love seeing miracle draws like this
@povijestpovijest9569
@povijestpovijest9569 Рік тому
I had no hope of figuring this out on my own. It would take me days
@__Krinpanut
@__Krinpanut Рік тому
5:10 What if we do Queen to c8 check? So that we can avoid both the bishop and the other queen so king has to move or block with the queen then there is no more checkmate threads and we can just get another queen and we win. +Edit : If black blocks with anything just take it then get another queen ther is no checkmates no worrys (But you need to look carefully first) or we can also keep checking black untill they cannot block and move then get another queen :)
@IVIasterIVIind
@IVIasterIVIind Рік тому
Black can block with the bishop to c3 as well. You have to move the king to a2, after which there is a checkmating attack with queen to e5, blocking all the possible checks.
@nonothik
@nonothik Рік тому
After Black blocks there is another check on f5, and then only the queen could block so the black king has to move, not clear at all.
@tobi439
@tobi439 Рік тому
@@nonothik bishop c3 comes with check so white is just dead after a few more moves.
@nonothik
@nonothik Рік тому
@@tobi439 Oh right of course, silly me!
@wesleyjarboe9571
@wesleyjarboe9571 Рік тому
​@@tobi439 Black is out of checks after K-a2. No matter what black does, white either plays Q-f5+ or f8(Q).
@chessartist
@chessartist Рік тому
Amazing puzzle Nelson!
@KimiiiRaikkonen
@KimiiiRaikkonen Рік тому
I would be able to lose from both sides. The only move I got right was the Rook to g3. Other than that I fell in every trap you explained :D. I'm happy you take time to explain why certain natural moves does not work. If you did not I would not learn why they don't work. Great content!
@dentonyoung4314
@dentonyoung4314 Рік тому
More of the fantastic intricacies of chess. :)
@stardog1244
@stardog1244 Рік тому
My head hurts trying to figure this one out... Great Content!😀
@DeSlagen8
@DeSlagen8 Рік тому
I immediately saw the idea of skewering the Queen and King with the rook, as the Queen would be forced to take
@benkovicbenkovic3010
@benkovicbenkovic3010 11 місяців тому
3:18 Pawn: bro, trasform me to a queen to defend all checkmates!
@johnkesich8696
@johnkesich8696 Рік тому
1. d8(Q)+ Bxd8 2. Rg3 Is equivalent, right?
@ChessVibesOfficial
@ChessVibesOfficial Рік тому
I don't think so. Don't have the board up right now but I wanna say if d8Q then Kc2 is winning for black
@kushalreddy8991
@kushalreddy8991 Рік тому
0:14 pause there I mean pause and go there
@felixrodriguez8510
@felixrodriguez8510 Рік тому
On 3:39 couldn’t white just play QB6, it blocks all checkmates and allows queen to escape from black queen to A2. And allows wiggle room for promotion
@rusandor-6190
@rusandor-6190 Рік тому
You'll see that my mind is too fast for eyes
@BobChess
@BobChess Рік тому
Crazy puzzle!
@perfectionbox
@perfectionbox Рік тому
The sublime beauty of chess is that the best move can be so unintuitive
@iamthatdinoguy
@iamthatdinoguy Рік тому
at 3:31 you gave a line where the white queen is on f2 and the bishop blocks on d2. From this position, why does Qb6 not work to prevent checkmate?
@Rocky64
@Rocky64 Рік тому
If Qb6 Qc4+, Ka3 Bc1+ and mate next move.
@pogcow4178
@pogcow4178 Рік тому
2:05 He sacrifices THE ROOOOOOOOOOOOK
@alyvav.trauma2440
@alyvav.trauma2440 Рік тому
There is something i want to know. What, after White King to a1, would be the outcome if black move its King to d3?
@Rocky64
@Rocky64 Рік тому
Great question as that actually occurs in the main variation of the original solution. The video does follow the main line but finishes just a bit early with the perpetual check. The original solution goes 7.Ka1 Qe5+ 8.Ka2 Qd5+ 9.Ka1 (demonstrating the perpetual and taking us to 8:33 in the video), but then it continues with 9...Kd3 as you indicated, to avert stalemate. The study ends with 10.Qb1+!, which tablebases confirm to be the only drawing move. It's pretty hard to understand, but apparently other moves like 10.Qa4/Qa3+? would lose to 10...Bc3+!
@humanaaz2183
@humanaaz2183 Рік тому
At 3:36 can't we go to b6??? Please answer my question 🙏🙏
@whackygamer19
@whackygamer19 Рік тому
8:33 I am actually very curious is bishop to d8 an opportunity to win for black? I plugged it into the engine, but stockfish was kind of lagging or something, and it didn't see the moves that i considered as winning for black (I tried changing the depth, it didn't help much)
@aliensconfirmed3498
@aliensconfirmed3498 Рік тому
If bishop moves away at 8:00 then Queen to b3> King to c1 > Queen to b1 > King to d2 > Queen to b2 forces Queen trade and it's a draw. If bishop moves away at 8:15 then Queen to b1 > King to c3 > Queen to b2 > King to d3 > Queen to b3 forces a Queen trade or a stalemate. Correct if I missed something
@aliensconfirmed3498
@aliensconfirmed3498 Рік тому
Damn! There is actually a faster stalemate at 8:15 with Queen to c4 check
@zyklos229
@zyklos229 Рік тому
I would do pawn check - bishop takes or I take him - rook check - take bishop, next pawn queen vs queen, it takes, I take. One rook left (but for sure, always depends on the opponent's move - if black sacrifies bishop and steps left with king -> threat)
@austinwinters3281
@austinwinters3281 Рік тому
What about rook to d6 check at the very start wouldn't that allow you to play pawn to d8 get a Queen, bishop takes, then take the bishop with rook and you're protecting f8 Queen upgrade?
@JakoBvB94
@JakoBvB94 Рік тому
Qxf7 is the problem, and now its a Queen versus Rook endgame
@cerebralcloud92
@cerebralcloud92 Рік тому
3:37 I honestly don’t know why Queen B6 isn’t a good move for White. Defends from Checks, and if Black Queen goes for A2, you still have King B5 and Queen defending.
@kjellfredrikpettersen2311
@kjellfredrikpettersen2311 Рік тому
Qb6 Qc4 Ka3 Bc1 Qb2 Bxb2 mate
@timhuson4800
@timhuson4800 Рік тому
At 5:40, Queen to c8 with check might at least be mentioned.
@JMTavares7
@JMTavares7 Рік тому
I got the first 2 moves because they were examples of pins and deflection and were ridiculous moves so i figured they were correct somehow ;)
@ashmoore9945
@ashmoore9945 Рік тому
very cool, but I still can't help but wonder what would have happened @5:43 if W played Queen to C8?
@williamsquires3070
@williamsquires3070 Рік тому
(@8:49) But what if black doesn’t take the queen with the bishop, but instead plays Bd8 (with the idea to swing it to f6)?
@itsnotjasper
@itsnotjasper Рік тому
White forces a draw with Qc4+.
@sdgfv6218
@sdgfv6218 8 місяців тому
My puzzle skill: sacrifice the rook is the best
@ayieldraculesti7903
@ayieldraculesti7903 Рік тому
At 3:38, if the white queen went F5 and check the black king in an attempt to deflect the black queen away from D file, it was enough to get another queen and it basically defends the A5 square.. I'm not that good at chess since I'm a beginner so I don't have insight on what's best to play next..
@Musss333
@Musss333 Рік тому
3:37 we can go there soo if Black take its gonna be a stalemate but if he wont we can get a queen
@Musss333
@Musss333 Рік тому
C5 queen
@hiyou8823
@hiyou8823 Рік тому
8:38 what if Qd1, Ka2 back then some random move was played to prevent repetition, it isn't clear who wins with the idea of same leveled players.
@user-gw8ou6lc2t
@user-gw8ou6lc2t 2 місяці тому
And then he sacrifices THE ROOOOOOOOOK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@ItzFruity14
@ItzFruity14 Рік тому
Now i know how to win when i on this problem :)
@ITZSimonxDlol
@ITZSimonxDlol Рік тому
6:48 black blocks and there no more checks for us Qf7- U didn't have to cut me off
@FatherManus
@FatherManus Рік тому
Rook to G3 forces the Queen to capture it and you get a Queen promotion.
@stockpisces
@stockpisces 10 місяців тому
3:35 what about c5? If he takes it stalemate
@Penicpant
@Penicpant Рік тому
4:50 king c2 is illegal
@nafihmohammed3288
@nafihmohammed3288 Рік тому
3:43 it's not over...push pawn to queen..it's actually a great move for white and simply defends opponents queen...is it..?
@landen99
@landen99 Рік тому
Great, ignore tons of other white options like Qc8 at 5:50 to either exchange queens or pin the bishop and block the black queen. But I guess some interesting gambits is worth the price of white forcing a stalemate or draw. Brilliant.
@thetaomegatheta
@thetaomegatheta Рік тому
Qc8 is a win for black after Bc3+. It's checkmate in 5.
@yogi9631
@yogi9631 Рік тому
Superb game again
@rosiefay7283
@rosiefay7283 Рік тому
4:01 I see: White sacrifices twice, to deflect the queen and the bishop. Neat.
@jamesknapp64
@jamesknapp64 Рік тому
I had found Rook pinning the Queen, then Queen takes, then promotion to a Queen was losing. But it never occurred to promote the other pawn to save the game.
@mochithepooh5368
@mochithepooh5368 Рік тому
In 3:40 couldn't white Queen move to B6? I'm not an expert enough to know woud happened next but I think it can do something.
@thetaomegatheta
@thetaomegatheta Рік тому
Black responds with Qc4+, which leads to a mating sequence.
@-7-man
@-7-man Рік тому
First move was easy.. after that was "Oh so that's the move" till the last move.
@vacman91001
@vacman91001 Рік тому
At 515 of video... he says white queen to D1 check is only good option. You need to get the king to move off of the C column. Wouldn't queen to D8 do the same thing? It would force black to block with its queen or bishop or make the king move. If the queen blocks you simply trade queens.
@suyashpandit5057
@suyashpandit5057 Рік тому
2:52 crazy thing about this position is it would be a draw if white did not have the d7 pawn... some of the lines are absolutely wild
@nickburton7897
@nickburton7897 Рік тому
At 5:43 what if u move the queen to c8, one move the left and check the king that way
@thetaomegatheta
@thetaomegatheta Рік тому
Bc3+
@iloveallah5960
@iloveallah5960 Рік тому
3:19 well what if you Queen the other pawn? That guards a4
@Blackn3t
@Blackn3t Рік тому
Then black Queen to c4 would be mate in 2
@fredthelegend7673
@fredthelegend7673 Рік тому
Because of Qb3#
@iloveallah5960
@iloveallah5960 Рік тому
@@Blackn3t oh
@acethemenace5696
@acethemenace5696 Рік тому
7:18 can’t you go to Qa3 which threatens the bishop and blocks all the checkmates and if black moves anywhere you can go for Qb3 check
@stiboh1
@stiboh1 Рік тому
Qd5 check, Ka1, Qd1, Ka2, Qb1 checkmate.
@niznwnw6091
@niznwnw6091 Рік тому
Not really a chess player But... When the (whit) king was at a4 the queen was at f8 and pawn was at d7 Why not move the pawn to d8 That would make a threat to the black queen I don't know why he didn't do that! Can with good skills somone please explain?
@eushamajid263
@eushamajid263 Рік тому
6:42 but cant you just play queen to a3 for white? to prevent checkmate?
@eushamajid263
@eushamajid263 Рік тому
nevermind theres queen to b1 for black ;-;
@williamsmith8640
@williamsmith8640 Рік тому
Not seeing that coming speaks for itself.
@alt-32
@alt-32 Рік тому
unfunny
@marinokrajina3773
@marinokrajina3773 Рік тому
Tnx for headacke god damn😅
@valenedelwynf.522
@valenedelwynf.522 Рік тому
3:39 what about queen to b6 tho?? Doesn't that just cover everything??
@kshitijsinha9190
@kshitijsinha9190 Рік тому
After Qb6 -> QC4+, Ka3, Bc1,Qb2,Bb2#
@Blackn3t
@Blackn3t Рік тому
Then it's a forced mate in 3: black Queen to c4, white King a3, black Bishop to c1, white Queen blocks at b2, black Bishop takes Queen at b2 - checkmate
@user-gw8ou6lc2t
@user-gw8ou6lc2t 2 місяці тому
And then he sacrifices THE QUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEN!!!!!!!!!!!!
@Fleebex
@Fleebex Рік тому
At 3:24, what about moving the Pawn to get a queen? That would prevent the check mate for white, he would be in a winning position?
@thetaomegatheta
@thetaomegatheta Рік тому
d8=Q Qc4+ Ka3 Qb3# or d8=Q Qc4+ Qb4 Qxb4# Your suggestion provides black with checkmate in 2.
@ngocbuilenhu1432
@ngocbuilenhu1432 Рік тому
7:20 How about Qa3? You can defend against the checkmate
@thetaomegatheta
@thetaomegatheta Рік тому
Qa3 Qd5+ Qb3 Qxb3+ Ka1 Qb2#
@papergoat9
@papergoat9 Рік тому
Wait what about Rg8 isn’t that the best move if not how
@justanothermemer3397
@justanothermemer3397 Рік тому
What about Rook a6, threatening the bishop and a skewer to go d8 queen when it moves
@thetaomegatheta
@thetaomegatheta Рік тому
Mate in 4 in favour of black, starting with Kc2 with the idea of eventual Qb2 mate.
@jerromedrakejr9332
@jerromedrakejr9332 Рік тому
5:43 With the first queen check the king until you bring the queen closer to the king, then promote the second queen...
@eriksteffahn6172
@eriksteffahn6172 Рік тому
You don't have a good check though. If Qc8+, then Bc3+ counter check and it's mate in 5.
@tedlis517
@tedlis517 Рік тому
Oh yeah, saw this in a bullet game. 😂
@johnathanpatrick6118
@johnathanpatrick6118 Рік тому
I thought it was a Black win until the stalemate positions came. So a draw with best play, huh...😁
@glassofwater5140
@glassofwater5140 Рік тому
3:03 what if queen g2 nvm queen can block
@thesizzles1337
@thesizzles1337 Рік тому
i only got first move correct :(
@Goodperson673
@Goodperson673 Рік тому
3:36 How about Qb6?
@thetaomegatheta
@thetaomegatheta Рік тому
Qb6 Qc4+ Ka3 Bc1+ Qb2 Bxb2#
@tottenvillelegend826
@tottenvillelegend826 Рік тому
Interesting puzzle
@reubenmanzo2054
@reubenmanzo2054 Рік тому
After getting the first queen, the chess program refused to evaluate the position.
@davidrigby-yo9zh
@davidrigby-yo9zh Місяць тому
hypothetically, what would be the sequence if black has next move?
@PedraamJam
@PedraamJam Рік тому
Saw the first move
@LaggyMcDougal
@LaggyMcDougal Рік тому
queen to H1 check on the last part maybe iunno instead of capturing queen with bishop
@dgtallgamer
@dgtallgamer Рік тому
Hmm the move I was thinking was rook to d6 check. But I guess that's bad 😔
@summercube339
@summercube339 Рік тому
I saw another way which may have intresting results.. let me see
@bope5706
@bope5706 Рік тому
At 4:57 why wouldnt black just go queen a3 for mate?
@ashvinla
@ashvinla 4 місяці тому
I couldn't understand why we cannot lead black king away from C column by checking using queen on 8th rank
@gabrielcuneta7256
@gabrielcuneta7256 Рік тому
3:43 White Qb6 prevents any mate and allows the king to go to b5 and run away.
@AnOn-gg4ei
@AnOn-gg4ei Рік тому
If Qb6? Qc4+, Ka3 Bc1+ and mate next move.
@sternenwind00e
@sternenwind00e Рік тому
4:50 why not queen to c8?
@thetaomegatheta
@thetaomegatheta Рік тому
Bc3 protects against that and leads to a mate in a couple of moves.
@pakkipremkiranrao7081
@pakkipremkiranrao7081 Рік тому
Why not Qd5+ by black at 6:57 instead of Kc2.
@thetaomegatheta
@thetaomegatheta Рік тому
Prepares a checkmate.
@vkFlare
@vkFlare Рік тому
It is just impossible to play like that without the stockfish
@giannisr.7733
@giannisr.7733 Рік тому
8:17 what about if black plays Qd1? Edit:nvm this also leads to stalemate, amazing position
@redwanurrahaman8644
@redwanurrahaman8644 Рік тому
If black plays qd1,white plays qb2 with check and then exchange queens and ultimately it’s draw
@kingjohnlee9991
@kingjohnlee9991 Рік тому
Can u just move the queen 1 step at the left and u save your queen and check the king?
@thetaomegatheta
@thetaomegatheta Рік тому
At what point in the game?
@mcdune6758
@mcdune6758 Рік тому
Who do you sell courses?
@Davik72
@Davik72 Рік тому
What happens if white first move is Rook to D6 check?
@thetaomegatheta
@thetaomegatheta Рік тому
Kc2 prepares a Qb2 mate at a later point
@nO_d3N1AL
@nO_d3N1AL Рік тому
Why did you ignore black's Qa3?
@thetaomegatheta
@thetaomegatheta Рік тому
At what point in the game?
@Goddessllias
@Goddessllias Рік тому
This looks like a fairly easy victory for Black. Rook to D6, King to C2. Then if Rook goes to C6 the King moves to B3. Rook to B6, Bishop to B4. Pawn Promotes to Queen D8, Queen to F1 and mate. That's my read on it at least. Now to watch.
@glaciergaming4487
@glaciergaming4487 Рік тому
at 3:40 cant we move the queen to b6?
@kshitijsinha9190
@kshitijsinha9190 Рік тому
After Qb6 -> QC4+, Ka3, Bc1,Qb2,Bb2#
@Blackn3t
@Blackn3t Рік тому
Then it's a forced mate in 3: black Queen to c4, white King a3, black Bishop to c1, white Queen blocks at b2, black Bishop takes Queen at b2 - checkmate
@jamesmunson385
@jamesmunson385 Рік тому
How much do you want to bet?
@PrometheusGuides
@PrometheusGuides Рік тому
what about rook to d6
@thetaomegatheta
@thetaomegatheta Рік тому
Black responds with Kc2, preparing a later checkmate with their queen.
@FierLord
@FierLord Рік тому
At 5:43 why cant queen go to C8?
@thetaomegatheta
@thetaomegatheta Рік тому
Bc3+ protects. After that, it's a mate in a couple of moves.
@sirnomis8577
@sirnomis8577 Рік тому
What if white played Qd1? Then you could force black out of stalemate and force a checkmate
@sirnomis8577
@sirnomis8577 Рік тому
At 8:36
@thetaomegatheta
@thetaomegatheta Рік тому
Illegal move - white is checked.
@prasadmulaka2211
@prasadmulaka2211 Рік тому
Wait h 6 square is hanging time 3:39
@samuelkuhn2903
@samuelkuhn2903 Рік тому
What about Rook D6 then Pawn D8 to Queen
@thetaomegatheta
@thetaomegatheta Рік тому
Checkmate in 5. Black just prepares a later mate with queen by going Kc2.
@blob1406
@blob1406 Рік тому
3:18 What if white makes a second queen here ?
@thetaomegatheta
@thetaomegatheta Рік тому
d8=Q Qc4+ Ka3 Qb3# or d8=Q Qc4+ Qb4 Qxb4#
@pinkigamer3534
@pinkigamer3534 Рік тому
Beginners: GET ANOTHER QUEEN DUH MORE MATERIAL Immediates: lets just stall the king and probably get stalemate or draw by reposition Masters/grandmasters/maximum: (what nelson played)
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