I Found The Limit & Then Went Beyond It: GMC Hummer EV vs Ford Bronco Extreme Off-Road Review!
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@JuanCastillo-zv6ob Рік тому
Wow the good the bad and the ugly .
@Nebula1701 Рік тому
Did you hold the Front Locker Switch down for 5 seconds according to the owners manual?
@mattwill63 Рік тому
goddamn lifted cr-v is better than this trash lol
@Nebula1701 Рік тому
@ROBERTO SOLA The Hummer doesn't have street tires...
@ineffably_described Рік тому
Stop ruining our Colorado trails by telling everyone about them and stacking so many damn rocks in gatekeepers!! Bad Coloradoans.
@disophisis Рік тому
I love Tommy's rants when things don't work. There's no excuse for broken switches on a 110k MSRP truck.
@DownHillgamer Рік тому
Exactly lol, I'd blow a skull fuse out in the woods if my 100k+ truck is shitting its pants
@AndrewAMartin Рік тому
It was probably a pre-production Press Vehicle that's been beat on by other 'journalists'... Have you seen how people drive rentals? 😁
@armsdirectory Рік тому
@@AndrewAMartin Press vehicles are usually fairly well cared for and driven responsibly - unless you're a car-tuber who doesn't want to get any more Press vehicles. Broken toggle switches and faulty function aren't the result of Press drivers abusing them - it's not like they were pounding on the front-locker and ride height switches.
@blang38 Рік тому
@@AndrewAMartin I tend to agree that it's a pre production vehicle that was used for testing and then given to journalists. It wouldn't surprise me if this one gets crushed in the near future. However, bottom line is that its too big for this kind of trail work
@JF-lt5zc Рік тому
@@DownHillgamer it's a Chevy, what do you expect? The giant price tag has nothing to do with quality. It's a ridiculous vehicle anyway and sorry, anyone who buys one is a fool.
@dalejones4322 Рік тому
I took a couple of things from this video. One, I don't want a Hummer, even if I could afford one. Two, Tommy you have a great dad. I know he frustrates you sometimes but when you were at your most frustrated he came to you with a calm demeanor and gave you advice that got you through the trail. He is always a doting father and has patience when you need it. Great video guys
@mnyhomie Рік тому
good call out. I recognized the same thing.
@davec.3198 Рік тому
Calm wins the race. Age makes you more calm and keep better perspective.
@papajakeyjake Рік тому
I honestly use those moments when parenting my own son I love the dynamic of him spreading his wings and flying and the old dog set in his ways cheering him on the whole time!
@neutrino78x 5 місяців тому
well, the guy actually driving the car said he liked its performance, at 30:48. I'm not a car guy, I don't even know how to drive lmao. (I'm 45...but I grew up in the san francisco bay area.) But I think it carries a lot of weight when the guy actually operating the car said it was a good drive, a good off-road vehicle.
@Michael-1337 Рік тому
I couldn't imagine off roading in a 5 ton vehicle. I wouldn't be surprised if some trails start implementing weight limits because at that weight your going to start tearing the trail up real fast. If you break down off road it's going to be a nightmare extracting a 5 ton monster off the trail even for a professional crew.
@RealJeep Рік тому
I drove a 10,000 pound F-350 all over the northern Rockies for the USFS with no problems. You just have to know how to drive off road. Tommy sounded like a scared little boy whining the whole time.
@neutrino78x 5 місяців тому
@@RealJeep he did say at 30:48 that it was great to drive offroad and he recommends it.
@VelocityMapping Рік тому
Would have loved to have seen the original H1 out there on the trail with them, and see how the Hummer EV compares to the H1.
@krismine99 9 місяців тому
I'm 100% sure it would've cleaned the floor. My dad bought a 1988 Humvee from a government auction and the thing was undefeated even without the tech
@ChristmasEve777 15 днів тому
I'm not sure why they were using the Hummer EV truck to do this instead of the Hummer EV SUV with it's shorter wheel base. Either one weighs too damn much but the SUV version still would have done much better.
@jakemaughan3818 Рік тому
"It's like these buttons are falling apart!" That's what we call a GM.
@tarheel4wd Рік тому
Yeah that thing is an expensive piece of shit
@kevinpohlner2840 Рік тому
They got nearly a week out of this vehicle and they only paid $115k...what a bargain!
@cristianhernandez8176 Рік тому
Idk man first electric truck they made. The Ford lightning was a even worse fail
@tarheel4wd Рік тому
@@cristianhernandez8176 yeah it's a piece of shit too
@handyman2183 Рік тому
1000% CORRECT ASSESSMENT MAURY!!!1!1. Dollar for Dollar it has to be the worst off-road vehicle ever made. Is only a status “I have more money then sense” symbol.
@sunchaser999 Рік тому
Good to see what a lot of us already expected… hummer EV is the ultimate mall crawler and not much fun on the trails.
@pin65371 Рік тому
It's sorta sad that a brand new company (Rivian) has the best ev truck available right now. A bunch of tech nerds beating out a company that has been around for over a century. That applies with Tesla as well. They basically just threw out all the "common knowledge" and started over. I'm honestly happy to see it. Sorta hope Hyundia takes over as well. They seem to be willing to take some risks.
@marinusdedreu3833 Рік тому
@@pin65371 I and many others want the retro concept Hyundai released to be for sale, and if they do, that would help convert MANY car enthusiasts over to electric. Same with Ford making the Lighting still look like a truck, doesn't look way out there like the hummer and cyber truck
@Chomper750 Рік тому
That was the same with the Hummer H2.
@j.howardj Рік тому
The Hummer H1 is still king!
@ismaelcarrillo3956 Рік тому
These are not ur average trails
@JamesBrown059 Рік тому
A couple scratches are easily worth it for GMC to have the only offroad video of the Hummer on the internet. Looked like a painful and stressful test, but it was fantastic to see it perform on a moderate trail vs service roads like you'll see in the ads
@OniMetsuki Рік тому
Crab mode is super useful. It stops the back dropping off narrow off camber tails. Literally cannot be passed safely without it in some cases.
@gregc9220 Рік тому
Ok here's my take, the Bronco made the trail ride very confidence inspiring, now I know this is two completely different units but the Hummer made Tommy look very irritated and he is experienced off-roader so imagine someone buying a Hummer and going off-road for the first time 🤔
@misaelbarcia541 Рік тому
Well, GM lent them the Hummer and the Bronco belongs to them. That could be another reason 😂😂
@GreenBlueWalkthrough Рік тому
True but when you buy something you read the manuel and every reviewer I know doesn't.... The issues Tommy was having was stuff that should be in the manuel.
@jessesimpson777 Рік тому
Exactly. Basically what I see is that the hummer is not that great off-road especially with the lockers and air suspension breaking while the Bronco is.
@logan594 Рік тому
No one going off road for the first time would pick this trail.
@jessesimpson777 Рік тому
@@logan594 his point still stands though. The Bronco made the experience calm while the Hummer did not.
@CEvans789 Рік тому
It was great for my wife and I to meet you guys on the trail. I was really impressed that you had the guts to take that Hummer up there and that you managed to shoehorn it through the tight sections in the trees and drag it over the rocks. Watching your descent was a real clencher. Kudos on your skill and patience in getting it through there. Not so impressed with the vehicle performance though. Looking forward to running into you guys again.
@norwegianblue2017 Рік тому
It is a real testament to those tires to hold up so well off-roading with a 9000lb vehicle.
@davemason6501 Рік тому
This is the second video I have watched with EV vehicles going off road. Notice at the gate keeper that 1 rear tire was spinning but not the other. This was the problem. The motor control software does not simulate a "locked rear diff" action with the two rear motors. Since it didn't spin both rear tires at the same time, it's a failure and will only get you stuck.
@SkylarRace Рік тому
Not one single person who buys the new Hummer will take it on a trail like that. However it is impressive what that nearly 5 ton vehicle made it over. The new Hummers will be seen more in front of Gucci stores than they will be in front of trail signs.
@abdulazizalmnsor2237 Рік тому
In this case , i can’t see why did GM put all these off road capabilities on it ? Cuz no one gonna take it on hard trails They could just make it fast and 4wd with out the drama and it will be lighter if we take all these off road things out of it I liked the hummer but now i can see it as a concept or muscle vehicle , not practical one at all
@IdeaCalledFreedom Рік тому
That was intense, honestly the hummer seemed to take the enjoyment out of off-roading. Too many issues in areas where a true off-roader doesn’t struggle that much
@poplaurentiu4148 Рік тому
The shorter version (GMC Hummer EV SUV) might be better it has better approach & departure angles and is shorter between front & rear axles..
@jeffforbes70 Рік тому
they have had the bronco for over a year and learned the ins and out.the bronco also had issues engaging front locker.i think it was driver error. they made all those goat mode to make it simpler , but only made more complicated.
@khakiswag Рік тому
@@jeffforbes70 their Bronco never had issues engaging the front or rear lockers. On the contrary, they’ve always been impressed that it engages instantly. From day one the Bronco has done everything that asked of it off roading.
@jeffforbes70 Рік тому
@@khakiswag from bronco6g forum. "Well, had my first service visit today. I kept getting drivetrain dash light errors when trying to turn on the rear locker. Went to the dealership today and they say there is a solenoid in the rear end assembly that is malfunctioning. Good news is that the read end is still fully functional, just not the rear locker. "
@jeffforbes70 Рік тому
@@khakiswag another from bronco6g "Posting this here to see if anyone else has had the same issue. I'm getting a error message anytime I put it in 4A, whether its using the 4A button, or switching it to sport mode. Error message reads, "service vehicle soon" and disengages the 4A. Shutting down and restarting clears the issue, "
@kbarrett1844 Рік тому
Great video. Actually impressed that the Hummer did as well as it did. The typical Hummer EV owner in reality won’t be attempting anything near this challenging. However, it’s great to see it perform at the edge of its capabilities. Kudos to the TFL team for bringing this unique content to us.
@Dudesaidthat Рік тому
I ain’t gone lie I own a hummer, not the ev of course, but this video definitely makes me want a bronco. That drag a wheel feature was tough!!
@paulf9653 Рік тому
Great video guys. I learned two things for sure watching this. 1. Hummer is a status symbol not an offroader. 2. Even at this price point it's still typical GM build quality.
@sparkywatts3072 Рік тому
I have a 2018 GMC Denali 3500HD Duramax that weighs in at over 8K pounds. I've never even thought of taking it off-roading. It's NOT made for that. GM's biggest mistake was trying to brand it as an off-road truck. It's NOT. My Denali has excellent build quality as have all my many past GM trucks. It's plain you're not a GM fan. I agree with your #1 thing learned but not your ? ? #1.
@kylebutler7142 Рік тому
@@sparkywatts3072 you GM fans need to wake up and smell the coffee - GM is junk! Buy a Ford! ALL GM PRODUCTS ARE STYLE NO SUBSTANCE. People fall for it though. Here in the land Down under, GM had an advert saying 'nothing handles like a Commodore' what a joke 🤣 ever driven a Porche? (a commodore is basically a Chevy SS) The branding of the Hummer EV was always as an off road truck from the start. Also haven't all Hummers been 4wd, off roaders right back to its military origins?
@steven8075 Рік тому
@@sparkywatts3072 ehhhhhhh idk man.... I have a 2022 GMC sierra SLT I use for work. It's easily the worst build quality iv had in any truck for the last several years. my co-workers have lariat F-150 and they are worlds better built. On my truck in its first year of ownership, The wood door trim doesn't fit, the door leaks in heavy rain, the driver's side wheel bearing is already failing/noisy, the heated seats failed almost right away and GMC lacks the "chip modules" to fix them. ohh also buttons for my multi-fold tailgate failed so I couldn't open my bed from outside... iv never had anything against GM but they certainly seem to be lacking quality control, especially when i compare them to my co-worker's Fords that have SO FAR been flawless.
@Turbo6019 Рік тому
how is Hummber a status symbol exactly...i'm curious to know?
@kylebutler7142 Рік тому
@@Turbo6019 the Khardasians probably
@InsomniacDreams55 Рік тому
I’ve said this once and I’ll say it again… simplicity and being lightweight is the key to off-roading.
@krane15 Рік тому
So no electric off-road vehicles then? With batteries, weight will always be an issue.
@eljoven732 7 місяців тому
@krane15 nah cause the wrangler hybrid is amazing and I saw that the EV version will be just as good with about the same weight as the hybrid
@incomingincoming1133 5 місяців тому
Suzuki Jimny.
@michaelfletcher1224 9 місяців тому
Fun to watch. I've done this trail in a 2000 H1 Hummer (it was very tight in places) but this looks like it's was a bit harder. Still I'm excited to see it on the trial.
@lorenciandrej Рік тому
This hummer is ideal for rock flattening. USArmy needs those green hummers badly. Super for parades. Looking tough at groceries. And the most important: everything works perfectly on this vehicle, when parked.
@vitaplur426 Рік тому
Nice video :) I own a Jeep but anyone who has off-roaded a Samurai can appreciate the advantages of low weight off road. 9400 lbs sounds like a nightmare. Appreciate they made it through, but yeah probably not something to seek out to do
@seanmcglocklin8553 Рік тому
It's all about that float baby!
@20tea Рік тому
Crawling in my built 2300 lb Samurai does exactly what I need out of it at a fraction of the cost of both rigs. It is however much less comfortable!
@amoron6435 Рік тому
@@20tea samurais are awesome lol, growing up my dad used to take me on these trails in hawaii that rode at like a 45 degree grade down on the edge of a cliff over the lava rock
@ROBinJVILLE Рік тому
GM interior not holding up? SHOCKING
@blang38 Рік тому
Don't forget the interior gremlins TFL had with the Bronco when they got that...mainly the roof. Like anything else...always little things to iron out unfortunately
@h8GW Рік тому
Oh, I see what you did there...
@dirtytdi Рік тому
I work at a refinery and all the Chevy/GMC trucks ( dosnt matter the age) the doors are sprung, have coat hangers for door handles , interior and controls are half working or not working at all. The dodge and fords at the refinery don’t have that problem, I know because I’ve check almost every one. Chevys make good “grocery getter‘s” But there interiors and door handles can’t handle real work abuse.
@blang38 Рік тому
@@dirtytdi Seems to be a bit of hyperbole there. All that tells me is you dislike Chevy/GMC and even if there was a pristine example you would never recognize it. Each to their own.
@WewuzKangz85 Рік тому
@@blang38 110k
@Maximum_777 Рік тому
20:11, perfect example of what actual locking diffs can do, that you can't exactly do with a fake locking diff that works by driving two electric motors at the same speed. The hummer makes it through that just fine still, but a normal jeep, engine replaced with an electric motor, is what a perfect electric off roader would be, and RC crawlers are the best example of this, especially insane stuff like MOA Comp crawlers that have a motor for the front axle, and one for the rear axle, but not one motor per wheel.
@petertousignant6566 Рік тому
My 2nd or 4th video, I like the honesty. Totally transparent review. Manufacturer should have you do reviews during design and prototype phases
@ryanking6811 Рік тому
Probably the first and last time a Hummer EV goes up and down that trail, hats off to you all for this content!
@JeremyHoutgoogleplus Рік тому
More bronco off-roading! That was the star of the video made that stuff look easy
@mattbrew11 Рік тому
I guess you missed the 13 jeeps that cruise past easily
@cornervillain838 Рік тому
@@mattbrew11 Wrangler has always been the best for offroad, but drives like a dog on road. Bronco leveled the game with being just as good offroad, but not driving like a 3 legged moose on road
@mattbrew11 Рік тому
@@cornervillain838 a solid axle vehicle needs a high end aftermarket suspension to drive as nicely as an ifs does. My gladiator comfortably cruises at 80 mph on 39s with a plush ride and next to zero steering corrections most of what is needed is due to cross winds but a bronco moves around just as much. Squares just don’t like wind. What then happens though is the solid axle vehicle becomes much better off road than the bronco. Dont get me wrong if Ford makes an EV bronco before Jeep ill buy one I do like them but with some personalization a Jeep is a wonderful daily drive. Ford has WAY better seats though and I am jealous of them
@jeffforbes70 Рік тому
most people thought they sold it after tommy road trip date.i think its been about 10 months sense bronco has seen dirt
@raionshishi8290 Рік тому
@@mattbrew11 It is nice having that solid axle for offroad, but the majority of trails don't really require it as the Bronco has proven itself on every single one thus far, and on road it's even better than the solid axle, where it really outshines everything is desert running, no Jeep is going desert running like a Bronco can, and don't even mention the Raptor version because that thing will literally leave anything Jeep has in the dust by miles.
@cherokeelaketennessee7895 Рік тому
No way I would consider the Hummer, almost like GM released it before it was ready. I've been driving Toyota trucks for 30 plus years and will continue to because they do it right. Thanks for the honest reviews, really enjoy all your channels.
@johnallen4793 Рік тому
Thank you for another great video an evaluation of 2 good trucks. 😃 🙏 BTW some of your puns get me chuckling. Keep up the great work 💯👍
@protectme4278 Рік тому
Never thought a Bronco would look light and spry lol. Imagine the Hummer next to a Jimny :D
@TwiztidKlownzTX Рік тому
That hummer makes a full size HD truck look light and spry.
@chrisgill7824 Рік тому
Watching the Bronco go through the Rock garden, and then the Hummer going through really shows how nimble the Bronco really is vs the Hummer which just plowed through.
@putamadre3640 Рік тому
Going sooooo slow. How is this off roading?? I could do this in a Altima.
@tylermacconnell217 Рік тому
The camera is often deceptive off road. Your Altima is not going to handle this trail, probably not even the first 500 feet, no offense.
@vettle1 Рік тому
@@tylermacconnell217 I think he's being sarcastic at how bad the Hummer did ..
@mattbrew11 Рік тому
How nimble a Bronco SIZED vehicle is. Based on some stuff ive seen out of Jeep EV test mules a trail like this will be done on cruise control
@terrarecon Рік тому
You know why he's going slow? In part because he knows that thing costs $114,000.
@frankleonard6570 Рік тому
im a skidder driver been doing it 17 years my dad drove skidders for 27years so i know all about offroading. horse power means nothing offroading. its all about torque. low gears and traction and ground clearance. my skidder is 30 000lbs and has zero electronics. electronics dont belong out on trails your tires arent right. need the smallest wheel possible and the meaty tires your hummer is lacking low gear. that bronco is a great offroader. great video guys! 👍
@SnowAndrews Рік тому
Methinks, GM's Quality Control is up to it's USUAL STANDARD !!!
@kuhndog-1196 Рік тому
The Hummer looks like it would be really good on a flat dirt road.
@dadgrowscapsaicin4341 Рік тому
I was thinking the same. The original Hummer hauled soldiers in the desert, not mountain trail climbing. I'd LOVE to mob that thru the desert!!!
@DRose2Fast Рік тому
All off-roaders would be really good on a flat dirt road lol.
@Sidewinder2180 Рік тому
@@dadgrowscapsaicin4341 well you should actually see the testing requirements for the AM General Humvee. One being vertical climb out capabilities. Something this wont do. The Humvee is way more capable than this.
@krismine99 9 місяців тому
@@dadgrowscapsaicin4341well, the original hummer would do well here as well. Had a family member but a 1988 Humvee at Auction and the thing was good on the hills
@hollatmynutz8375 Рік тому
Ole boy Tommy should get a raise. GM should be ashamed to sell a 100,000$ rolling turd. Good job tfl.
@luisrosano3510 Рік тому
Excellent contet guys. Big fan of the channel. Thak you for share it.
@MattShannon Рік тому
Great video and thank you for doing this.
@joatmon1857 Рік тому
Was Awesome meeting/seeing you guys on this trail!!! That hummer is a HUGE EV/vehicle esp for off road use on our Co trails!!! Keep up the great content, love watching all your videos!!!
@TFLoffroad Рік тому
It was great meeting you as well.
@poweredbyrice5708 Рік тому
Yeah and if you run low on fuel from getting stuck or slow moving on the trails just use your jerry cans of batteries to fill up or call a friend to bring fuel...oh wait
@jsSeJaMs Рік тому
@@poweredbyrice5708 not a fan of Ford. But for a recharge F150 powerboost onboard can charge it up. I wish they had took the zr2 1500 on this trial 😕 maybe the bison 🦬
@h8GW Рік тому
@8j3sSe JaM3s7 They can just call Andre. After putting some beefy tires on his personal F150 hybrid, he can now do some legit rock crawling.
@DCDLaserCNC Рік тому
Lol! $110,000 and it immediately gets stuck. Malfunctioning buttons. Great job GM!
@ashthewolfdog1380 Рік тому
17:13 I love it how you get all nervious doing that in your Hummer. I do it, don't care much about the skidplate, i just service it after the one check i find i find a good enough hole or deep enough scratch. It's not like anyone looks under there so-
@--JYM-Rescuing-SS-Minnow Рік тому
an educational experience! good luck! wow! that's some super nice footage! plus some unbeatable mems!
@maxmars Рік тому
It says alot that TFL has kept the Bronco this long. They tend to sell their test vehicals pretty quickly.
@sappyjohnson Рік тому
Broncos are the real deal. Ford really nailed it. Jeep has a competitor.
@JMacGyver1 Рік тому
The Hummer is such a stereotypical GM product that is overweight, too big (for it’s supposed intended use and has questionable quality. If I had to guess, the Hummer product manager never intended a ~9,500 lb. truck to actually be taken on mountain trails, knowing that there isn’t a tire made that can overcome the pull of gravity.
@mikefoehr235 Рік тому
truth👍
@King-st9nx Рік тому
Typical GM product
@philllsxga.7737 Рік тому
Dude I had 252,000 miles on my ZR2 S10 it was always off road no issues not one!! It was my daily driver for 10 years and 252,000 MILES always off-roading always it never left me stranded...
@mikefoehr235 Рік тому
@@philllsxga.7737 I had a 88 Sierra...it was off road mostly. It spent most of its time off road at the dealer for warranty work. Trash
@JMacGyver1 Рік тому
@@philllsxga.7737 That’s great, totally irrelevant to my point about the Hummer EV.
@daviddahan3204 Рік тому
Great video. Riveting. 9,400 lbs rock climbing in a truck that wasn't fully operational. Yikes! I'd also be pissed if I had a $110k+ vehicle and two of functions I needed were not working.
@paulpaulie Рік тому
Tfl the truck channel for non truck guys. Props for UKposts spreading the American dream
@user-bl4ez3sh5g Рік тому
I could be wrong, but didn’t I hear Tommy say (toward the end of the video) that he didn’t have the shifter in “low” all the way up. That would make sense why his throttle modulation was so wonky. 27:09, and 17:46 they should drive the Bronco up in “D” and see what it does. Same thing with my kids R/C car, when it is in high the throttle is jumpy. When in low, it responds much slower and controlled. Also, it makes sense that the dash says that “automatic leveling” is not available, when the suspension is maxed on a 25 degree slope. Leveling means to level. 8:46. And any vehicle that gets high centered on a boulder is going to lose traction and get stuck. The Hummer is amazing. The rear street buggy guy knew what to to. Great very video. You guys should get an award for cinematography.
@AllTerrainNation Рік тому
Nice to see the Hummer off road but what a heavy tank for the trails. Great job as always guys
@CRAIG672004 Рік тому
Awesome video, felt like I was there with you guys.
@chevy9c Рік тому
That is some quality switch gear! Push on it and it breaks off in you hand!
@powtheory867 Рік тому
Not gonna lie, watching tommy get mad is super funny. He gets so stressed compared to his cool, collected dad.
@savagestash4354 Рік тому
Glad to see the only EV hummer to ever go off-road in real-time.
@tristansundquist1834 Рік тому
Man that’s crazy. It’s almost like people have been having issues with the new Silverado ZR2.
@josephtucciarone6878 Рік тому
Thank you for showing us the capabilities of the new ev Hummer. If you have multiple people placing rocks while you drive, the vehicle failed that test. It did not make it over. Also, If one engages max height, then one should expect leveling to be disengaged, since max dose not permit lowering any wheel to level.
@quadeemhall5297 Рік тому
well the hummer driver is not skilled at all hard to say the vehicle failed when there is a poor driver and it made it through. but the driver had no momentum when he needed it and cried like a spoiled brat 70% of vehicle
@hellkitty1014 Рік тому
Tommy having a Code 5 in a $112K Hummer due to suspension and 4WD issues is both hilarious and sad at the same time.😂 **H1 me please**
@GoSlowTaco Рік тому
Pure comedy
@JoeE22 Рік тому
Yeah I'll stick with a $2000 dollar jeep that will out due both😂
@noneyabizz8337 Рік тому
@@JoeE22 2000 dollar jeep? Yes, ok. Not in this economy
@gregss.771 Рік тому
What a great episode! Thank you for showing what the Hummer versus a Bronco can do. Makes me want a Bronco all thqt much more!
@TheAndrwwJohnson Рік тому
For Hummer money you can have 2 broncos lol
@jessekittrell2946 Місяць тому
Just got my '23 Hummer EV Truck Edition 1 (brand new) for $115k couple weeks ago ...... with every option possible basically lol. Mine doesnt have any of the issues this one had.... love it. The air ride is probably the most comfortable big vehcile ive ever ridden in (Escalades/Mercedes/Lexus/Genesis/Ram 1500 Big Horns/Sequoia/etc). Love the tops off and that the back window rolls all the way down (& even the front vertical bar comes out). Thing is right around as fast as my c8.... which blows my mind lol.
@sacramentofoodforest 6 місяців тому
I love these longer form overland videos so much guys!
@edinreviews Рік тому
Well done to GM for making an off-roader that’s just as capable as a lightly modified LR Disco 2 😜👏🏻
@Stylemaster911 Рік тому
Right! GM set out to make THE. BEST. OFF.ROAD.VEHICLE. But... yeah lol. It's a 9000lb brick with pretty small wheels given how big and heavy it is.
@tarheel4wd Рік тому
That Hummer is no were near a Discovery! The Hummer is terrible!
@theglitch99 Рік тому
For 110k you could have a way better machine w/evil gas engine!! I prefer the evil gas engine and money in my pocket!
@edinreviews Рік тому
Just watched the towing video with the Hummer. Max towing 7500lbs? Even my standard Disco 2 TD5 can beat that. Though 7700lbs wouldn’t be much fun with 136bhp 😳😂🏴
@tarheel4wd Рік тому
@@edinreviews 😯 You're from Scotland! 😄My mother's side are MacKinnon's.
@joemattes8389 Рік тому
My opinion of the Hummer is that it is concept truck that actually got built. But like most concept cars, it looks cool and has a lot innovation but questionable execution.
@mattferguson9109 Рік тому
To be fair the Bronco has had a lot of recalls and other issues. So not exactly comparable when you have a very early build Hummer vs a more a model that’s been around a year or two now and allowed to iron out more issues.
@YTYTYTY7 Рік тому
I am actually impressed that the wheels did not fall off with the heavy weight.
@richienotsorich4303 Рік тому
I have an 05 Silverado Quadrasteer. It's the 2nd best vehicle I've ever owned for off-road. The best was a little Suzuki Samurai lifted with 37" tires. Totally useless on road though. The 4W steer is the cats meow on and off road. 👍
@geoffreyfagan1798 Рік тому
Bronco Badlands arrives this week after a year wait, and that was all I could afford - Hummer way out of my price range, but seeing this makes me feel a lot better about that. Thanks for the validation!
@geoffreyfagan1798 Рік тому
@@ShirahamaNeo-Tokyo Thank you! Enjoying but still learning, got first dirt.
@MrJruta Рік тому
Seems you’re not missing a thing with the hummer. The Bronco is a MUCH better functioning and looking truck. Congrats!
@landscapingspecialist Рік тому
Thank you all, the whole team for doing your TFL Truck diligence. I would say you were unbiased towards it and that’s what I expect from you. Well done
@klathamtexaslandrealtor Рік тому
Enjoy watching the videos! Man that Bronco always performs!! I hope I can get one. Been hearing they're tough to get.
@Fresno1199 Рік тому
I have the Hummer SUV on order. SUV: shorter WB. OAL and less weight. Nice too see a real testing.
@vettle1 Рік тому
"Make the best off-roader ever!" What he heard, "Make it wide as a heavy duty and weigh almost five tons and make sure the off-road stuff doesn't work."
@superhawk20002 Рік тому
The Bronco keeps growing on me more and more. The vehicles are just so different, and almost purpose built. GM can scream offroad capability all they want, but the Hummer will never compare to the Bronco on rough terrain like you guys were on -> weight, width, COG, and even ease/reliability of systems. I have a feeling I will personally NEVER see a Hummer out on any trails, maybe a gravel road or a campground. And even thats a remote possibility unless campgrounds install charging stations and infrastructure... out in the middle of nowhere.
@cristianhernandez8176 Рік тому
The hummer is something you don't really wanna take off-road it's 120k🤦♂️and they got it stuck on a rock
@Bacnow Рік тому
Yeah..I owned a 2017 Rubicon and really enjoyed driving it (both on and off road)! Now, however, i own a Badlands Bronco and can honestly say that it’s the best vehicle that I’ve ever owned in terms of enjoyment! That Hummer is going to fail during an off road adventure at some point (assuming that someone is crazy enough to try it) and will be a b*tch to recover!
@krane15 Рік тому
And there's a dozen thing the Hummer can do that the Bronco can't. The Hummer is really in a class of its own.
@brandonhinton866 Рік тому
Don't get your panties all twisted up, compare apples to apples
@nsvaluto48328 11 місяців тому
Very good video guys. What model trim on the Bronco did you use
@senshibat8920 Рік тому
Noice contrast on the Gatekeeper.. A working switch would help.. other then the self recovery of a winch or the planks. try a spotter with large safty cones to mark a spot? camera does look great.. the motors on wheels what do you do if one burns out? Did you forget the weber grill and dogs buns and soft drinks or water .
@dream-_weaver4769 Рік тому
Thanks guys for actually putting these vehicles to the test. Let us know in the future if there is a courageous Hummer owner willing to take on that trail.
@RMC2021 Рік тому
I love that you guys take these vehicles where they are actually worked and tested. In my opinion, the HummerEV is NOT the ultimate off roader at all. The bronco and wrangler rubicon will always do better than the hummer due to the size and weight. I'm pretty disappointed that the Hummer had all of the electronic bugs and failure to engage lockers etc... The lockers in the Hummer don't seem to be a true locker like the wrangler and bronco are equipped with. I think the HummerEV is about as off road worthy as the power wagon - has all the gadgets and the power to do heavy trails but the limit will always be the size and weight. If Hummer was smart they'd make something the size of the H3.
@saltyfloridaman7163 Рік тому
Jeep best offroader? You spelled Geo Tracker with a 6in lift, 33s, drive train upgrade with front and rear lockers, snorkel kit and a cummins 4bt swap wrong (jk)
@RMC2021 Рік тому
@@saltyfloridaman7163 yeah that’s about as good as it gets for a good trail rig but for a stock vehicle the wrangler/bronco are hard to touch.
@saltyfloridaman7163 Рік тому
@@RMC2021 I'm just being an idiot really, for stock or under $10k in mods on top of purchase, Jeep Wranglers, Ford Broncos, and Hummer H3s are probably the holy trinity of modern American offroad SUVs
@RMC2021 Рік тому
@@saltyfloridaman7163 no worries - I agree with you
@n3d.studio Рік тому
I finally saw one in person, thru the rear view mirror in my Hummer H2, lol. I knew what it was as soon as I saw the light bar in the grill.
@matthewholzinger1042 Рік тому
I like that the battery CASE is recyclable but nothing mentioned about the battery itself!!
@frankr111th Рік тому
The Hummer's size and weight is always going to make it a compromised Off-roader compared to something like a Bronco or a Wrangler. I would love to see GM put all that off-road tech into something smaller, even smaller than the Hummer SUV.
@jeffwill4923 Рік тому
Lesser models are coming with over 600hp. Size should be smaller because of different battery.
@williammodlin2621 Рік тому
Thanks for an amazing and difficult experience. Kudos to Tommy for his off-road driving skill; he’s the best. To me, the takeaway is it’s better to have a fully loaded Bronco AND and fully loaded Bronco Sport than 1 Hummer EV although it IS really stupendous. I was surprised at the quality/tech issues you encountered though. Be interesting if GM has any response about that.
@bobwall6673 Рік тому
Chevys are for Moms."See this switch right here? It is not engaging." That's because it was never really suppose to be pressed. Love the videos you guys do and hats off to you guys for doing them. The camera really does ZERO justice to off-road hardness. I raced for years (rally), and had the poo show up on stage plenty of times. Goto the GoPro to check the footage where the poo appeared and it looked like a walk in the park Kazansky. Cheers.
@SSYoung125 Рік тому
Hey question are all Goodyear wranglers nosie at 60 mph or just the ones on my chevy 2500 and the ones that were on my chevy avalanche?
@zachariewright1690 Рік тому
That's a big vehicle to take on those narrow trails. Good job, Tommy. I learned a lot about offroading from watching you and the other TFL guys.
@jasonwahl2510 Рік тому
$100k GM with the switches from a Geo Metro.
@Motardebase. Рік тому
Je regarde cette vidéo depuis la france, et je suis impressionné par ces véhicules et ces chemins, vous y allez avec envie et ça fait plaisir! es-ce que ce chemin est payant? c'est incroyable qu'il existe
@CS-qc7np 4 місяці тому
Can you change the ride height while in drive? I ask because in my vehicles they switch between 2x4 and 4x4 quicker when I’m in neutral. I wonder if GM did the same thing with the Hummer ride height software. Great video!
@greglane3978 Рік тому
Going to get a new bumper sticker made for my new Bronco. "Hummer recovery vehicle".
@neimadnos6977 Рік тому
That Bronco is just awesome. Ford did a great job designing that vehicle. The Hummer looks great , but suffers from first year model issues. I wish Toyota would refresh the FJ to compete with the Bronco.
@blang38 Рік тому
What? Bronco has had PLENTY of first year issues...including an ongoing issue with the motor.
@raionshishi8290 Рік тому
@@blang38 The issues the Bronco suffered were nothing like this, at worst it had some issues with the roof with hard tops, if that's the worst thing I can remember from it's first few years than I can say with confidence the Bronco was pretty well made and is at the moment nearly perfected.
@blang38 Рік тому
@@raionshishi8290 So you are saying that a dash switch is much worse than roof issues. Ok, I sense you are a fanboying a bit here...noted.
@neimadnos6977 Рік тому
@@blang38 I agree with you. Most new models have issues. I only spoke on the Hummer issues because this video is about the Ford Bronco and the GM Hummer and in this video the Hummer was having issues and not the Bronco, so that was the reason for my comment. I'm a huge Toyota fanboy so I have no dog in this fight and I know the first year Tundra has had problems also, so the comment was base off the title and issue the Hummer had in this video vs the Ford. I hope that help users understand more about my original comment.
@Trav3l2Liv3 Рік тому
Off-roading is supposed to be a stress relief. When you run into electrical issues and modern issues it turns into a bad trip. I had air ride issues with my Rebel till I gutted the air ride for coils
@ft_aska.90 Рік тому
Great video, the program works great
@DalesDeadBug Рік тому
That Hummer isn’t even mine, but I was puckering up just watching it get stuck on that rock.. I’m a Coloradan stuck in Virginia right now and you guys always make me miss the trails there.
@timbocross Рік тому
I would like to see the Rivian on the same trail and see if it fairs any better
@Ww8.3 Рік тому
The rivian is about as capable as a Subaru
@michaelfederico2873 Рік тому
Watch long way up they have rivian 1 and 2 in it.
@migueljardim8177 Рік тому
It would do a lot better, especially the R1S with a better breakover angle.
@henkstols9326 Рік тому
Nice video, watched the latest Himmer video and then this.
@djmtxx8 Рік тому
Is the the coolest pumps for the battery or synthetic sound to imitate engine sound we are hearing at times?
@bradkarm1 Рік тому
Fantastic video from the TFL team. Great from beginning to end, well done.
@infernoking7504 Рік тому
I love how that hummer already has quality issues
@xm3ntal620 Рік тому
Highly disturbing the front locker switch is limp and won't turn on.
@infernoking7504 Рік тому
My 1988 Lincoln town car is 33 years old and has better quality switches🤣
@AndrewAMartin Рік тому
@@xm3ntal620 I'm guessing that this Press Vehicle has been beat on by other journalists prior to TFL getting it. But not good in any case...
@marcjohnson8488 Рік тому
The cost of high tech, a stupid little front locker switch that is broke can strand you out in the middle of nowhere
@zachanderson963 Рік тому
its a GM product..
@ka4172 11 місяців тому
When you stuck with the hummer on the rock rails is it possibel too lift "retract" the wheels (lowest postion) put some rocks under the wheels and pump the supension back in too the highest position?
@LMacNeill Рік тому
So far, your experiences with the Hummer are less than stellar... GM clearly has some bugs to work out. Not sure this thing was 100% ready for prime time.
@anthonymrskipt9252 Рік тому
Saw a guy taking his new Hummer up Curtis Canyon (unimproved dirt road rather than a real Jeep trail like Red Cone) in Jackson, WY two weekends ago. I was coming down, so didn’t get to see how it faired, but I was happy to see one actually out there getting dirty with an actual owner. You guys should find that guy and see what he thinks!
@paulm6481 Рік тому
A better comparison would be Hummer vs. that Rivian truck.
@kevinfitzpatrick5949 Рік тому
The vivian is more like an electric Honda ridgeline. A glorified electric SUV
@Little.R Рік тому
Just waiting for the next TFL-inspired trail closure... You know it's coming.
@InLineDiesel6 Рік тому
Not sure what the attraction is of taking a vehicle up offroad trails like one this but it seems very popular.
@americanrambler4972 Рік тому
Looks like the new Hummer might be a little short on standard mechanical brake capacity. When Tommy went across that creek at the end, a whole bunch of steam came from those wheels around the brakes.
@calebnation6155 Рік тому
Behind an 18” wheel, you’re not fitting *that* huge of a brake rotor. It may have the capacity to clamp & lock the tires but repeatability or longevity on longer grades with 9500lb before loads….
@scotturich Рік тому
In the spring you should see if you can do 3 sub 15k off-roaders up red cone and see if they can go against the Bronco on Red Cone. Ideally something like an FJ, H3, and LR3. See if BFgoodrich would sponsor tires. With off-roaders approaching 100k it would be awesome to see if you can get the same capability for under 20k.
@trailrunnah8886 Рік тому
I don't think you can get an FJ that's drivable for under 15K, haha.
@scotturich Рік тому
@@trailrunnah8886 you can find them but they have 300k miles. Fj is like cockroach they never truly die unless they are wrecked
@rossmartens Рік тому
Gotta love 100 plus k of gm build quality 👌
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