I’m Finally Excited About VR Again! - Bigscreen Beyond Review
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PS VR2? I don’t want to use a Playstation 5. Valve Index? Too Big. Meta Quest 3? I don’t want to deal with Mark Zuckerberg's wackiness. Thankfully, a new headset to end all headsets has reared its tiny little head. The Bigscreen Beyond is an incredible headset with 2 micro-OLED displays, pancake lenses in the tiniest package we’ve yet seen.
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CHAPTERS
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0:00 Intro
1:07 Build Quality, Personalization
3:57 Display Quality
6:02 Resolution Caveats
7:41 Upsides
8:32 Face Cushion
9:25 Why this is my new daily driver
10:35 Optics Problems
13:01 It's so good, you guys.
15:10 Outro
@snazzy 5 місяців тому
I've had mine for a couple weeks now and it is an absolute game-changer. A lot of people complain about it not being self-contained or because it requires SteamVR lighthouses, but I agree-it's next gen. It's the most "wow" moment I've had since the original Vive. Completely disappears on your face if you're tethered.
@xXYannuschXx 5 місяців тому
The Index Controllers still wipe the floor with everything else on the market; no surprise they went for the lighthouse system, no need to make their own eco system. This was supposed to be an advantage of lighthouse to begin with, a standard that manufacturers can adhere to, to make the HMD, controllers, accessoires interchangeable and not walled garden (like every other HMD system out there).
@XenZenSen 5 місяців тому
I am a little miffed that they cap out at 90fps though. The extra frames really help me with motion sickness.
@IR-MaNu 5 місяців тому
I dont really like the self contained stuff thats around, the tracking is so chunky imo, i recently used the Meta quest 2 and it doesnt really work when you dont look at the controllers l, all the time i got "Tracking lost" (im german, dont know what exactly it says in english)
@HaydenCMH 5 місяців тому
Excited for your review Quinn!
@TRX25EX 5 місяців тому
@@xXYannuschXxnot entirely true, Index controllers do have superior tracking but it's not actually needed, Quest 3 uses prediction method that actually works in blind spot areas, I have base stations and Quest 3, I never ever felt Quest 3 is inferior in tracking.... The issue is the base stations is simply outdated and won't be supported anymore like HTC cutting support on them soon.... The cost is way too high but near 0 benefits hence no one is caring about base stations anymore
@largewallofbeans9812 5 місяців тому
It’s always nice to see new players in the VR field that actually innovate and don’t just keep reselling the same thing with an expected spec bump.
@realdog2552 5 місяців тому
cough cough HTC cough
@Henrix1998 5 місяців тому
I would be very fine with spec bump headsets currently, most models are stuck to 2k * 2k resolution and 75/90 Hz
@ATKERNOW 5 місяців тому
Literally 1984
@DMan-ud6bt 5 місяців тому
@@Henrix1998 And no freakin' audio, which is nuts to me. All companies have to do is work with/pay Valve for their amazing audio solution just like HP did. That one thing would automatically make me far more interested in any VR HMD. Of course I'd also like to have dynamic foveated rendering (enabled by eye tracking) along with a much larger FOV. Hoping for either the Somnium VR1 or something dropped from Valve out of nowhere soon.
@retrocomputing 5 місяців тому
@@DMan-ud6bt foveated rendering is overrated and is needed only when your UI is tailored for eye tracking. For a mainstream standalone VR it's a waste of money and battery
@musicalclarity6574 2 місяці тому
I've consistently stated VR won't be in until it feels more like glasses than a computer strapped to your head. This looks to be a trailblazer in achieving that.
@x_flies Місяць тому
I agree 100%. This looks like a really good start.
@HaloWolf102 5 місяців тому
3:49 "Yeah, child labor!" The children yearn for the mines.
@grimish8165 2 місяці тому
That's why they're called minors
@clockworklegionaire2135 Місяць тому
i want them to work HARDER
@colinwiseman Місяць тому
Minecraft knew about this love affair...
@shakysugars Місяць тому
I thought he said Hell Yeah, Child Labor! haha
@lazerdrone6812 11 днів тому
We about to go to the 1700 with this one 🔥🔥🔥🗣️🗣️🗣️
@benjicohn 5 місяців тому
FYI, if anyone is wondering. The headset itself is $999, but does not include any form of headphones, trackers, or controllers. So if you add controllers and the optional headphones, the price goes up to around what Linus stated
@pixelpatch 5 місяців тому
That's a really good note
@MadPropzBaller 5 місяців тому
Can you use Quest Pro controllers with it?
@LokiusV 5 місяців тому
@@MadPropzBallerNo. It's a SteamVR tracked headset so only SteamVR tracked Controllers work with it.
@MadPropzBaller 5 місяців тому
@@LokiusV but why when the Pro controllers track themselves?
@stephen9894 5 місяців тому
@@MadPropzBaller they track themselves in relation to the Quest headset, at least that's my understanding. If the Quest Pro controllers work with a Vive or Index then they should work with this.
@PigeonDesign 5 місяців тому
“You borrow a friend’s iPhone.” Linus knows his audience. 😂
@a3-radio 5 місяців тому
He doesn't, he assumes we have friends xD
@yourmomsboyfriend3337 5 місяців тому
Yes, he assumes we humorously don’t purchase the superior hardware of the iPhone, as android phones simply cannot handle the delicate and intricate design of an integrated lidar + camera mechanism
@naomiwolf8944 5 місяців тому
@@yourmomsboyfriend3337superior hardware lmao, sure...
@leonro 5 місяців тому
@@yourmomsboyfriend3337 who cares about hardware when you're stuck with some yucky OS that does not let you properly use it; and is it really worth buying an iphone for that one time you'll scan your face???
@a3-radio 5 місяців тому
@@yourmomsboyfriend3337 there is always someone that gets offended by a simple joke
@cscooper2000 5 місяців тому
2:24 "You simply borrow a friend's iPhone...". LMAO. Spot on. Thank you. That made my day! 😂😂😂
@DaddyDagoth Місяць тому
Android users when they have to do anything worthwile with their phones and not just thinker with it like 4 year old children.
@davidscann Місяць тому
@@DaddyDagothiPhone users when they're projecting about their inability to do anything worthwhile with their phones
@rdubs1705 19 днів тому
@@DaddyDagothinteresting take. I've always thought of iphones as the device for highschool girls
@Cypher84X 8 днів тому
I felt that in my soul. If I didn't have an iPhone for work, I'd have no iPhone at all. Hunk of 💩
@freakinsweetdude 5 місяців тому
This level of VR innovation is really exciting. Excited to see how far this goes in the coming years.
@jonathaningram8157 5 місяців тому
Still waiting for AAA games on PC though... Haven't used my index in months.
@ashdang23 4 місяці тому
AI mixed in with VR wild
@MisFakapek 4 місяці тому
what VR innovation? He still compared this "VR innovation" to 2019 product.
@mydefenseisimpregnable 4 місяці тому
Will get innovation when full dive becomes a thing
@robinorg1 4 місяці тому
Its too bad most games are still gonna be focused on quest since they have the most users :(
@ed5215 5 місяців тому
This is actually insane I thought it would be at least another 5-10 years before headsets got this small. This is literally Ready Player One technology. Simply amazing.
@pylotlight 5 місяців тому
what a time to be alive. imagine just 2 more papers down the line.
@23william90 5 місяців тому
@@pylotlightI love this reference. I hope everyone gets it
@zZYourMineZz 5 місяців тому
@@pylotlighti read that comment in his voice
@DMalek 5 місяців тому
Sometimes, to go forwards, first, you must go backwards
@alberteinstein2291 5 місяців тому
@@pylotlight damn its rare seeing his reference much outside his channel
@mauromerconchini 5 місяців тому
The way Linus's daughter is trying her hardest to look sad when in reality she's basically on the brink of laughter is the most adorable thing I've seen all week.
@pineapple2318 5 місяців тому
she acts exactly link Linus does haha!
@every-go6901 5 місяців тому
3:45 for anyone wondering where
@ZennExile 5 місяців тому
wait till she finds out later in life that her daddy is a corporate shill that tried to claim ad block is piracy and supports the google data monopoly.
@blurey8569 5 місяців тому
oh now it make sense. i thought it just a random kid lol
@ssjwes 5 місяців тому
@@blurey8569 Linus: Whose random kid is this? Oh well here's a hard hat and shovel, get to work kid.
@colbyrichardson3724 5 місяців тому
"3-D scan Linus can't hurt you" 3-D scan Linus: 0:18
@ADarnSmore 5 місяців тому
i can't wait until this size is the norm. the feeling of having a monitor taped to my face is the biggest reason i don't use my headset that much.
@kcchiefsproductions8687 2 місяці тому
Same. If I could get a good vr that's comfortable and had a good passthrough mode I'd never take it off while at home.
@deepblue812 5 місяців тому
I still feel like this is a bit like a very refined prototype, where the next version is going to be the one you really want to get.
@dolan-duk 5 місяців тому
Yeah, has an Oculus devkit vibe. Hopefully it gets to its "Quest" form.
@Youtupe69 5 місяців тому
@@dolan-duk I actually would like this to stay tethered to at least a battery pack. I dont want a headset with batteries a processor etc
@leonro 5 місяців тому
@@Youtupe69 I would assume that the comment about Oculus achieving the form of the Quest was more so referring to refining the product until it properly starts a genre of VR. And yeah, the whole point of this device is that it does the bare minimum and is heavily customised to you in order to save on weight. No way it can become a standalone, at most there could be a smartphone-like device, if not a real smartphone, that has to be connected to it while staying in your pocket to turn it into a standalone VR headset.
@viewsan 5 місяців тому
Totally agree with you, I bought a 1st generation car while the 2nd gen just has so many fixes and additions to it, making me just a prototype user. I'm sure the same thing applies to VR headsets too. Quest 2 was a pretty big success when it went out into the market and I'm sure Beyond will make an ever better headset in the future!
@bigcrackrock 5 місяців тому
You can apply this to all tech as there's always something better around the corner. If you're overdue for an upgrade, already have lighthouses and controllers, then this is a strong contender for the one you want to get. While I've avoided Facebook and their products like the plague it's hard to deny the Q3 is an incredible value and it should be considering it's being sold at cost. 500 dollars to hold you off until the next generation is going to be a way easier pill to swallow for most people, and it does have other advantages/use case over the Beyond that might outweigh the negatives to some. You have to keep in mind that these sets are already pushing the PC hardware and you're probably going to need an expensive PC upgrade alongside your headset purchase to fully take advantage when the time comes.
@iliketurtles50000 5 місяців тому
It's very good to see a big tech reviewer reviewing this headset. Really helps getting this product out there
@GeoBurress 5 місяців тому
bro, the video has been up for less than 20 seconds, chill
@Kriothic 5 місяців тому
@@GeoBurress Can't blame them, also excited this is getting more exposure
@iliketurtles50000 5 місяців тому
@@GeoBurress well yeah, I've been looking into this headset so its nice to see a review of it before I pull the trigger on a new headset
@deltafox757 5 місяців тому
Cute proto xD I bet you’re a fellow VRChat player?
@robertweber8784 5 місяців тому
I agree. I like Linus when he does good things, which he often does.🎉
@woahnut 5 місяців тому
This is one of the only VR headsets I’ve seen that actually looks like it was designed for humans
@jhwblender 2 місяці тому
The design is very human
@cescimes 2 місяці тому
@@jhwblenderoh god lmao
@arnovanwingerde8589 24 дні тому
Designed for deaf humans in a wheelchair. Good for what they do, but IMHO a simply incomplete product....
@santiagomendez246 5 місяців тому
seeing this reminded me of the movie "ready player one", and given that it was one of my favorite gaming concepts for the future, this is starting to look insanely close to it and I LOVE IT!
@CockatooDude 5 місяців тому
This is the first VR headset that actually looks cool while you're wearing it. All the other VR headsets look very tonka-toy bulky, but this one looks very sci-fi.
@CeceliPS3 5 місяців тому
And Linus wearing it reminds me of Soldier from Overwatch lol
@liamcollinson5695 5 місяців тому
Yeah but it's not stand alone so it's basically just a screen in a admittedly small box
@widgity 5 місяців тому
@@liamcollinson5695And standalone is just a phone strapped to your face, what's your point? If you want standalone, get a quest or a Pico or something. This was built with different goals in mind.
@CockatooDude 5 місяців тому
@@liamcollinson5695 It's a dope looking box though.
@lucasrem 5 місяців тому
for HoloLens mixed-reality technology you can find Pro Army grade gear, heavy, but way better
@CodSlap 5 місяців тому
Oh snap. This _finally_ looks like the experience the kid I was 30 years ago thought we were getting when home-PC VR headsets (more like helmets…) were first becoming a thing you could go out, buy and plug into your home computer. Definitely going onto the ’buy’ -list if I’m still alive and kicking in a couple of years.
@soapvar Місяць тому
kinda weird that we as a species want to simulate our world so badly, simulation theory is correct!!
@Fridge_Fiend 27 днів тому
@@soapvaryou are 14 and that is deep I don't want to simulate this world, I want to have adventures and powers that I can't do in the real world. Maybe if the real world wasn't so bad for 99% of us we'd have less want to escape it
@Plystire 20 днів тому
@@Fridge_Fiend Sad, but true... Maybe if 99% of us did something about it instead of trying to escape, we wouldn't feel that way.
@GregorianGangsta 5 місяців тому
Been looking forward to this project's progress for a long time!
@anthonyblacker8471 5 місяців тому
I'm pretty sure this is JUST the beginning. It's going to get a LOT better over the next few years!
@eugenenalpin6058 5 місяців тому
Heck yeah, always lovely to see where VR industry goes next
@37_tranhoangtuan73 5 місяців тому
me too lol
@joeg536 5 місяців тому
Lovely as always 6:48
@blitzcourt5021 5 місяців тому
Will always be moving towards AR and ultimately FD
@devrandvar 5 місяців тому
The Beyond is the most interesting VR hardware to come out in years. This actually makes me want to get back into VR.
@jensenraylight8011 5 місяців тому
you can also use that if you really need to cosplay as a cyclops
@yahyaqureshi4042 5 місяців тому
@devrandvar I'm curious about what made you leave VR? Lack of content? I've had my Quest 2 (my first proper VR experience) for an year and a half and I still get surprised with most of the new games I try, they are absolutely amazing. I too was wondering when will I ever get bored of it.
@bilbot8195 5 місяців тому
@@yahyaqureshi4042 I got bored because I'm not a player. Still waiting for the killer app for non players
@jonathaningram8157 5 місяців тому
PSVR2 was also really interesting with a lot of breakthrough and not that long ago.
@somebody3 5 місяців тому
@@yahyaqureshi4042 1.5 years is a very short time while most people ran out of games to play a few years ago. A few new good games show up every few months but that’s about it. It may get better since there are still many newcomers to VR.
@polychoron 5 місяців тому
I remember recommending the Beyond to you a few months ago... I'm so happy you reviewed it! 😁💗
@NordicDan 5 місяців тому
I've been wanting to get a HOTAS setup and a Vive so that I could enjoy playing through X-Wing Alliance again along with the upcoming XWVM, but seeing this makes me think the Beyond might be a better solution. I'm sure by the time I can invest in either of these and a proper HOTAS setup, there will be even more options to investigate, but I definitely like how this is looking. Would be great to be able to watch 3D movies on it as well.....
@Fanaticalight 5 місяців тому
Holy crap, I'm so glad you reviewed this headset. This headset is such a huge game-changer when it comes to playing anything VR. I know I still have to use the base stations but honestly for the screen fidelity and the ergonomics of the headset, it's well worth the price and the trade-off. Forgot to mention, the 3D scan and the support for prescription lenses not only makes the headset fit beautifully, but everything is crystal clear
@morosis82 5 місяців тому
Looks like a phenomenal first gen product with surprisingly few compromises. Hopefully they get the love they deserve and get a chance to refine it for theor next version.
@bassemb 5 місяців тому
I'd say there are some big compromises. No audio or controllers or base stations included, and 75 Hz at full resolution, and smaller FOV than the Index both vertically and horizontally. And at that price point. It's a purchase for enthusiasts who already have a previous generation SteamVR headset and are ready to pay that much.
@michalsnaiberg2734 5 місяців тому
@@bassemb lack of audio is in my opinion not a compromise. I would rather bring my in ear monitors/headphones with much better sound quality than pay for a pair I will never use that is attached to my VR headset. The rest I kind of agree with, but I also understand them - the price is already high, and if they decided to go no compromise, even fewer people would buy the product, thus lowering their chance of getting enough traction for a V2 where these things might get solved.
@josejuanandrade4439 5 місяців тому
@@bassemb LETS not forget each unit is customized FOR YOUR head. As it is, you can't share it. Well you can. Just probably not very comfortable for the other person. I do let my friends come to my house and play on my vive headset. Is a great experience, and i love to be able to share my vr gear with my friends who doesnt have the income to aquire one on their own.
@illustriouschin 5 місяців тому
Linus hyped up the hirez but then said 75hz which completely kills that feature. This is a beta product at best.
@blastofo 5 місяців тому
Needing lighthouses, index controllers, headphones, and needing to be tethered to a PC, is a lot to deal with for a device thats primarily for watching movies.
@crescentfresh8001 4 місяці тому
This is exciting. Small form factor goggles are so important right now to the future of VR. The more that we can eliminate the "hassle" of VR, the better.
@ollieaul2921 3 місяці тому
honestly I hadn't even thought of the size making it not really lag behind when u play faster paced games where u look around a lot that's honestly game changer enough for me to get it just for that
@johnsnow1749 5 місяців тому
Surprised to see BigScreen glow up to hardware. Used to use their app for watching movies.
@ethankim7979 5 місяців тому
Wait it's the same brand as the one that made the app?
@slifer1993 5 місяців тому
yes same company@@ethankim7979
@wazmethod 5 місяців тому
I guess yes, it's the same logo and typo @ethankim7979
@craigvandenberg7554 5 місяців тому
"Movies"
@rio425ee 5 місяців тому
Only the app hasnt seen any developments and has been circling the drain bc they are only focusing on the headset. And the app is now an afterthought to them.
@TheHitchboy 5 місяців тому
2:28 "you borrow a friend's Iphone" haha the shade!
@estrella-v1994 4 місяці тому
I saw this on one of their Steam updates. Honestly, I was skeptical and thought it would've been gimmicky, but I am sorely mistaken. This is truly impressive and excites me for the future!
@Talinthis 5 місяців тому
was waiting for something that wasnt absolutely enormous. Have never tried VR before but something like this might make me give it a shot.
@Maisonikkokufan 5 місяців тому
LTT and Thrillseeker should collab on a VR video sometime. It would be cool to have some of the more obscure VR tech be shown to a big audience
@xiqy1959 5 місяців тому
nah
@user-jl8ve4mj7k 5 місяців тому
Yeah been watching thrill since he had 50k subs
@jtjames79 5 місяців тому
Lack of eye tracking is a deal-breaker for me. I'm hoping they have it on the next version because I really really want one for my first VR.
@nikoheino3927 5 місяців тому
@@jtjames79it would be nearly impossible to fit it in such a small headset. but why do you need eye tracking? there are some use cases but id rather get better display and lenses than eye tracking.
@CakePrincessCelestia 5 місяців тому
Totally pro this. And I agree to the lack of eye tracking sentiment. Since the PSVR2 has it in a 550 bucks device, even the Quest 3 should have gotten it and anything over a grand without eye tracking shouldn't even be considered anymore, especially if its sporting those high resolutions.
@kimkickout 5 місяців тому
Been following this VR headset for months now and I'm so glad it's getting the exposure it deserves. Can't wait for this to go norm and force other companies to design their VR headsets this lightweight moving forward.
@The_channel_of_channels 5 місяців тому
The applications of these goggle are beyond VR. Just by looking at it, it looks like an awesome product.
@kevinstudt8316 2 місяці тому
I had a pair of protective glasses i used in summer in the middle east with a very close seal so i cut a few breather groves to let air flow through, worked well.
@Blix8 5 місяців тому
These "blurflares" or glare in pancake lenses were pretty big in Pico 4 but they are basically nonexistent in Quest Pro (and 3 apparently). So maybe Bigscreen Beyond can fix it with some lens upgrade in the future or next model. Its nice to see some VR on LTT again, its one of the experiences you really need gaming PC for and I heard somewhere you guys like them or something :)
@TommyPanigale 5 місяців тому
They are still there on QP/Q3 but not quite to the extent of what's shown in this view. My first week with the Quest Pro had me noticing them constantly. They're artifacts that fresnel users will not be used to seeing. However the clarity gained by pancake optics are well worth the tradeoff with blooming. Back to my Quest Pro, after that first week, i noticed them less and less. I honestly forgot they were there until it was called out in this video. Don't let the blooming turn you off to pancake hmds. Fresnel will be extinct soon anyway.
@Blix8 5 місяців тому
@@TommyPanigale On my Pico 4 it was like what Linus describes, you actually got blinded by bright objects reflection and you had to adjust your head to get out of it. Meta obviously put some effort into minimazing it as the reflections are nowhere near as strong. Let's hope all pancakes will be like this, because the switch from Q2 to QP was amazing in PCVR especially if you consider how similar they are.
@TommyPanigale 5 місяців тому
@@Blix8 agreed. Meta definitely put a lot of R&D into the optical coatings on their lenses. Hopefully other companies will begin to invest in coatings as well to minimize the effect. It’s something the camera/lens industry has been doing for decades. The tech is out there, it’s just a matter of companies investing in the technology on new headsets.
@IOUThrall 5 місяців тому
Ya my q3 lens flare is zero to none only time I see it in on a loading screen.
@DanielKennedyaeos 5 місяців тому
I wonder if one could send their pancake lenses to an optics place for better AR coating to assist with the issue. United Lens Company in the USA for example.
@Armbrust210 5 місяців тому
The off-ear "headphones" on the Index were actually developed by Audeze, which explains their quality and maybe also why Linus likes them, as he's into Audeze Audiophile stuff in general
@RedCocoon 5 місяців тому
Audeze.... Nutz?
@SadlyItsBradley 5 місяців тому
Nah, they weren’t. They were looking at Audeze originally. But ended up not getting it to work. Quote from the Valve Index deep dive website: “We talked with Audeze who developed a pair of magnetic planar extraaural headphones in order to help us find out. The result sounded incredible, however, the weight, size, and cost were not feasible for the production goals of the Valve Index.” They ended up going with Tectonic BMRs
@anthonyschlessman1848 5 місяців тому
got eeem@@RedCocoon
@KC-bg1th 5 місяців тому
God damn, Valve really does go all out with all the shit they make.
@MotoCat91 5 місяців тому
@@RedCocoon Would have preferred my morning coffee to stay out of my nose, but thank you for this anyway
@Grampssssss 4 місяці тому
Just bought mine and it’ll be here in a couple months, realistically I think the only improvements they could make if the audio strap is up to snuff is to 1. Make it optionally wireless 2. Make it optionally lighthouse or inside out tracked and 3. Give it a passthrough mode. Everything else about this headset is basically perfect for regular VR use and I couldn’t be happier with it.
@ConnerHall 3 місяці тому
My room has too many mirrors for lighthouses to work reliably. On top of that, being wired to my PC vs a battery in my pocket is super limiting. I agree with all of your marks. Personally, I won't upgrade from the quest until the wirless/ pass-through/ inside out thing is figured out. That's the bare minimum IMO for me to start pushing this to normal people.
@user-wl1eg4ew9c 4 місяці тому
I havent even considered buying a vr headset for the longest time now with this thing releasing i just might wait a little more till they get a little less expensive but still what a incredible piece of tech
@4RILDIGITAL 5 місяців тому
Brilliantly broken down! You've absolutely caught the essence of the Beyond headset. I appreciate the detailed insights and personal experiences you shared. The device does seem revolutionary and I agree that its exclusivity could be a major selling point for many tech enthusiasts. The "Flare-areas", despite being minor, should indeed be directly addressed by BigScreen. Looking forward to more in-depth reviews like this!
@__8120 5 місяців тому
This is the kind of thing I have been waiting for in the VR space. Someone figured out how to make it not feel like you have a toaster duct taped to your forehead. All the pieces are in place now. The inside-out tracking and standalone capability of the quest, the itty-bitty size of the bigscreen beyond, the ergonomic controller design of the valve index, the gaze tracking of the PS VR, and eventually it'll be at a price that doesn't have to be measured in comparison to cars
@RoBoT24435 5 місяців тому
It is cool, but sadly doesn't seem like it's where I want it to be to purchase it
@__8120 5 місяців тому
@@RoBoT24435 my point is that after the quest the space had kind of stagnated, so I'm excited to see more developments happening
@LimabeanStudios 5 місяців тому
It's gonna be tough to get the ball really rolling. I'm hoping apple having a headset will lead to large investments into vr entertainment. I don't see gaming getting us there for a long time.
@alainportant6412 5 місяців тому
@@RoBoT24435 you have a toaster duct taped to your forehead
@RoBoT24435 5 місяців тому
@@alainportant6412 ? Sorry I like to use a decent headset made for games with no cable instead of having oled
@lynxoflight72 Місяць тому
I had no idea the beyonds mic was that good. Thats really cool and i hope the speakers are gonna be just as good, because thats why i love my Index. The whole package you get with an index is just so much more compelling than the half done audio for most other headsets. Personally im looking into possibly switching to a Quest pro eventually, mainly for face tracking, but the beyond just seems like that perfect option for maximum comfort especially when moving alot.
@Darkgun163 5 місяців тому
Honestly, the mic quality is something that I was super interested in. Heck, I didn't think there even was one! That said, the lack of ease of sharing is a 100% problem for me, since I alread have an Index and am constantly trying to share the experience with anyone I can convince to try VR. But HO MAN, if I lived alone and had no real IRL social connections. In a heartbeat, absolutely.
@ITISFAXX 5 місяців тому
@ 3:50 lmao "YEAH CHILD LABOR" xD
@unotoli 4 місяці тому
Awesome review Linus! Wish BBVR a success, so I can get their next product with uncompressed high-FPS (DP2) support and inside-out tracking.
@ViciousXUSMC 5 місяців тому
Looks good, stick rocking my Franken Quest after trying two tethered Windows headsets in the past I just cant get past the being tethered part, even when I made my own 50' extension. Using the quest wireless in any room while my PC sits in my office is the largest benefit desipte its other technical losses compared to the new big headsets. Once a PC VR headset has wireless and this level of performance, then I think I would make the compromise to setup one spot in the house with the tracking stations, etc.
@skaterkenta 5 місяців тому
i'm coming from a hp mixed reality headset to a quest 2 and this was already a game changer for me. not sure how blown up i'll be when i'm able to buy myself this crazy beyond thingy, i am so excited about this and looking forward on buying it someday.
@akeiai 5 місяців тому
Holy crap. This is revolutionary. It's so small that it could literally be a consideration for most people after the technology gets quite cheap after some time. No more bulky box near your head with all the weird floaty lag behavior. USB power also means a phone could theoretically power this which could even make it portable in the future. This just brings a lot to the table even if it's just the first generation
@smallbutdeadly931 4 місяці тому
It plugs into a PC using two usb cables and a displayport cable. The USBC that goes into the headset also uses a custom pinout, so its not like you can use any regular old USBC cable.
@lagoozri9568 5 місяців тому
i was waiting for this product, finally someone made it
@MickeyDee420 3 місяці тому
this looks like the best solution for sim racing cockpits.... i love the idea of VR for sim racing over triple monitors... way cheaper and space saving, and it looks better imo... this heaset looks like a pair of glasses
@ZesPak 10 днів тому
tbf apperently this headset is about 1k , which is cheaper than 3 decent monitors and mounts.
@deadlycucumber9020 5 місяців тому
I am genuinely excited to see this product. VR is finally beginning to resemble the technology we’ve seen in sci-fi
@user-en9qd5nx8w 5 місяців тому
I had the same thought, this headset looks like how I have envisioned them, more closer to the size of motorcycle goggles.
@Denyah_ 5 місяців тому
As someone that's tried the Bigscreen I can attest this is such a solid review. As bad as the chromic abbration is on the outsides of the headset its somehow better than 99% of other headsets ive tried - most noticeably the Pimax line of headsets. This is finally a proper PCVR headset for the masses.
@randomexcalmain4512 5 місяців тому
denyah
@leonro 5 місяців тому
Well, the price is not exactly for the masses, and it still suffers from a bit of 1st gen issues (low bandwidth, strap, etc.), but as it will get cheaper and more refined over time and with more iterations, it definitely has great potential.
@RidgeXR_2 5 місяців тому
hi denyah
@cheeeeezewizzz 5 місяців тому
hHave you tried the new Crystal? Its image quality is kinda nuts.
@Denyah_ 5 місяців тому
@@cheeeeezewizzz I have. Really bad chromic abbration though. Quality is about as good as the Bigscreen imo
@antjones2281 4 місяці тому
I love the usb-c cable it makes it so easy to pack it up and take it with you .... until you realize it requires lighthouses . 😂
@Deltarious 4 місяці тому
Your description of the VR experience with these is *extremely* similar to how I describe mine with a much less good headset, so I wonder if the mental factor plays a large role in the immersion and perceived experience. If I'm in a good state of mind I find I have no issue 'getting immersed' in the game and experiencing it as though I am there or as though I am a character even though if I sit there and *try* to nitpick I absolutely can spot all the flaws in the detail
@jamesoloughlin 5 місяців тому
Great video Linus and glad you are covering the Beyond. Should be noted they are working on a better headstrap with headphones to be sold separately.
@Viperspider1 5 місяців тому
I really hope this takes off. I don't have $1400 for a headset but this would be something I would love to have and hope to see it iterated upon. Here's hoping for a wireless version in the future. Once VR becomes this light and comfortable but also untethered I believe we will be in the golden age of VR tech.
@EcnalKcin 4 місяці тому
Just need the wireless version to have moisture vents to help get rid of the sweaty effect, and cameras on the outside that you can use to toggle to an environment view, and you will never have to take them off. Ok, obviously you would, but they could tap into an AR market as well as VR. It could make Pokémon Go 2.0 viable as an AR/VR hybrid.
@jf2176 4 місяці тому
LMAO!!! 1400$ for a thing that has not much content worth playing. Great investment. I'm pretty much done with tech these days.
@mysticalpotato86 5 місяців тому
Really excited for this - VR blew me away with the Rift S when I bought it - we need software though, I'm fed up of party games and trial level software development. Aside from a handful of titles theres no reason to be giving up desktop gaming.
@stateazure 5 місяців тому
Totally agree, I've owned a few headsets since the beginnings of VR and this is STILL the main issue, in fact I'm very surprised VR just hasn't died already due to developers abandoning the idea, but I'm glad to see the hardware is still pushing forward regardless. For actual 'designed for VR' titles, really good ones are very few and far between..and apart from Half Life: Alyx I can't even think of any other titles that are must have's. The Quest has been my favourite since it's much like a console, simple/intuitive, easy and fast to get going, no hassle and screwing around with drivers etc, comfortable and fun (albeit - mediocre, light fun)... I can't even recommend a single game in that system as a must have. I stopped using VR a few months ago now and have gone back to purely desktop gaming for real satisfcation.
@deano_vr 4 місяці тому
Check out Ghosts Of Tabor. Combat Waffle Studios is a new dev that is making VR games. GoT is basically Tarkov but VR. They are working on 2 more games right now that are also popular desktop games reimagined in VR. There's quite a large player base as well
@Chadman03elantra 3 місяці тому
@@stateazure I had completely opposite experience. After I started using VR about seven years ago I just couldn't go back to flat games. Especially for simulation type games like MS Flight Simulator or racing games. I will agree quality games are sparse but there have been enough to keep me busy and happy the whole time. I do not have hours and hours to spend on games though, usually only a few hours on the weekend so it takes me a while to work my way through games. I do have a soft spot for old arcade games though and pinball. I have a couple of arcade 1ups to satisfy that itch.
@anony88 5 місяців тому
I want this + 120hz, plus proper brightness (where its possible for some aspects of the picture to get bright if it needs to, but in general stays relatively dim to be easy on the eyes). Also a wider field of view.
@Mawntee 5 місяців тому
PSA for the Beat Saber 90 vs 144hz thing! Most top players play at 90hz even when the option for 120/144 is available. The game calculates cuts based on the frame when you first touch the hitbox, and the frame before that. The reduced framerate actually slightly increases swing size, and can often lead to less misses/badcuts when playing faster ~9+ star maps! It's really only the accuracy players who are playing the slower charts for the highest accuracy possible that will play at higher refresh rates. Majority are at 72-90hz.
@michaeldepalma858 5 місяців тому
This is amazing. Thank you for this. I played my buddy in multiplayer Beat Saber one night; he’s a Hard level player and I’m an Expert level player, and yet he’d consistently beat me. EVEN when he’d miss notes and I’d full combo. I KNEW something had to explain the wild discrepancy in scoring. This explains it. You’ve done me a great service here.
@Mawntee 5 місяців тому
@@michaeldepalma858 This wouldn't explain that. This is a thing for very high level play, like when you're playing high star ranked maps and need to restart because you missed a single note, or just didn't score enough. Your issue is likely you're not swinging big enough to score the first 100 easy points (mixture of arm and wrist), or your 15 point accuracy is way off and you're scoring like under 107 for every note. In player settings, turn on the "Advanced HUD" to keep track of your percentage, and the points you are getting per-note. Re-read the in-game tutorial for more info on the scoring system and swing size!
@DawnPatrol21 5 місяців тому
Always curious about the Bigscreen VR. But ill probably wait for their next version.
@Enderplays12 5 місяців тому
Same. DP 2.0 would solve the frame rate/resolution compromise, the "eye swamp" would get fixed by newer types of more breathable foam, and hopefully pancake lenses get some refinement in manufacturing that minimizes the bloom a bit more. Everything else in the headset seems awesome for a practical plug and play device.
@dtz1000 5 місяців тому
Yes, they really need to get rid of the base stations and have the tracking built into the headset, like the Quest 3 does. Also the lens glare is a big problem for a lot of people.
@canaconn2388 5 місяців тому
@@dtz1000uhh no
@dtz1000 5 місяців тому
@@canaconn2388 You own one?
@TarixVR 5 місяців тому
I don’t care how nice it is, I just can’t go back to wired PCVR.
@TheAero1221 Місяць тому
Thank you for sharing Linus! Its nice to see this kind of development happening with VR. The weight of the Index, combined with the screen door effect were very disorienting/nauseating for me personally... I really look forward to both of those problems being solved. VR was an incredible, but short lived experience for me... I sold my Index a short time after buying it bc those issues were untenable for me. I look forward to diving back in some day.
@HasanBabasi 5 днів тому
holy shid that mic quality from the index is amazing. Sounds almost like podcast mic.
@weather12guy 5 місяців тому
It is great to see progress in the VR market. One company pushing better ergo and screens for VR can help steer the rest of development. However, the tradeoffs at $1400 cost plus the need of a iphone for the scan in which I have no one I would trust in this fashion are all deal breakers for me. This more feels like a half gen upgrade but I still do acknowledge the progression.
@Assassunn 4 місяці тому
You just have to do the scan in an Apple store lol
@MegaLokopo 3 місяці тому
Buy an Iphone and return it after the scan.
@SpaceDroplet 5 місяців тому
I was waiting for this review. Glad they did it well. LTT videos with this quality writing, editing and story telling are amazing
@JonnyTenebrous 5 місяців тому
Looks great. With my space configuration, base stations just aren't going to work - so it's inside-out tracking or bust, I'm afraid. By the time this "next-gen" display config comes with the rest of the next-gen package (foveated rendering w/ eye-tracking, inside-out tracking, etc) I may be tempted to upgrade from my current PCVR headset.
@chibioji5315 5 місяців тому
Sounds pretty great, can't wait for VR to become even more great. I still feel like it's missing a few things for me to consider buying any VR related stuff. Oh and i was wondering why he blurred something in the video at 12:40 ...then i went to the page and yeah, me as a German totally understood why in an instant. :D
@mimixis 4 місяці тому
same here lol... how dumb can they be to put this onto their site lmao
@antchrist6987 5 місяців тому
I think, as Beyond is able to refine and polish this product more and more(so far personally I fell it amazing) but, I’m willing to bet these will be more common in households and work places
@TroyRubert 5 місяців тому
I've been in VR since the DK2 days. Feels great this tech is maturing.
@gtrzmbe9390 Місяць тому
This headset is what I need and have been hoping for for quite some time now! I have an Index, which, at first was good for casual VR gaming. When I started to get a little more competitive in some games, I was playing more. More time equals more strain from that heavy face weight. My upper back and shoulder blade areas are suffering for it.
@brianbeauchamp2383 3 місяці тому
What I think would be the next step for other VR headsets is to have all of the onboard computing and cameras and whatnot all there but that it is stored in a processing pod that you put in your pocket and connects to the headset through an umbilical tether. It can dramatically reduce the weight of the headset while not compromising on the stand alone device capabilities.
@Lock2002ful 5 місяців тому
Awesome. Was only a matter of time until they got this small. Looking forward to what releases in the next couple of years.
@dancingwiththedogsdj 5 місяців тому
I reckon you could easily make or find a way to make that cable holder more comfortable with something laying around or nearby, but you could probably make something as well via 3D printing. It looked rigid and might just need to pivot to allow less torque applied to the head strap. Very good video! 😊
@ezpz4659 5 місяців тому
Already preordered mine with upgraded headstrap with audio and prescription lense inserts
@guncolony 5 місяців тому
This thing seems absolutely insane as a virtual monitor, can't wait to see how it develops
@yippeeclawyay2591 5 місяців тому
I know a lot of people that use big screen as a virtual 3 monitor setup, it’s pretty fun to use
@oraimo3728 5 місяців тому
How do they see Thier keyboard?
@mataskart9894 5 місяців тому
@@oraimo3728 Touch typing, most people don't need to see it. Still though I'll never get the appeal of having a headset on simulator 3 virtual monitors when you can just have..... 3 monitors....
@KaterMedia 5 місяців тому
@@oraimo3728You don't! Well, maybe you can, but at some point you don't need to see it anymore :D
@OG-97 5 місяців тому
@@oraimo3728 you see your RL room with virtual screens
@The_MEMEphis 5 місяців тому
@@oraimo3728AR or they can use their keyboard without looking which isn't that uncommon
@Naysy 5 місяців тому
So glad you’re reviewing this! Love my Bigscreen Beyond
@vesstig 2 місяці тому
I watched a whole documentary about Micro LED's and found the creator of them even more charming. Cant wait to see where the future of this tech takes us
@brandonsmith8235 5 місяців тому
Well this came out of left field, I'm very interested in maybe making the switch off my Index for this. I'm replaying Alyx now and kinda wish I waited a few more weeks to start it because the Index is so flipping heavy and hardpressed against your face that it becomes uncomfortable after a while.
@ConstantinSPurcea 5 місяців тому
The "blur flare" is light fringing, aka diffraction I guess, and it happens on contrasting edges of dark and light, and yes, it is because of the lenses. Higher quality lenses would require a lot more work which I guess would translate in a more expensive product. Look at the camera lenses you guys use and how much those cost.
@spdcrzy 5 місяців тому
The custom lenses and fully light-sealing face cushion are THE BIGGEST selling points for this. I tested out a half dozen enterprise-grade VR/AR headsets back when they were still kind of new, but those two problems - not fitting on faces properly and/or not being able to fit over a pair of glasses - were significant dealbreakers for me. If BigScreen comes out with those cloth cushions and they work better, and custom IPD and lens assemblies can be swapped in and out of a single housing, then we have truly arrived at the point where custom VR goes mainstream.
@charltonrodda 5 місяців тому
Prescription lenses are already swappable - they're magnetic - but 100% agree on everything else.
@deano1699 5 місяців тому
silly question, but why are we hoping for VR headsets to include prescription lenses, when they could just correct your vision in software?
@spdcrzy 5 місяців тому
@@deano1699 that's not how light works, that's why. True optical correction is ALWAYS a better method.
@Telerian3 5 місяців тому
Someone can make a cloth cover for the bespoke pad. That shouldn't be hard. You'll want to keep that clean or see horrible results on the face from long term use.
@dtz1000 5 місяців тому
The lenses have glar issues and are not as clear as the lenses on the Quest 3.
@mrmurdock6994 4 місяці тому
I'm waiting for the next Valve VR. I'm very happy with Valve Index full body VR kit.
@bernardr7182 5 місяців тому
VR is still amazing to me to this day. We are in amazing times
@Gold63Beast 5 місяців тому
Can’t wait for their second generation! If it’s this good now, the second generation will be absolutely perfect!
@drakenbakken 5 місяців тому
This looks sick, hope to see more from them in the future
@7676tbrown 5 місяців тому
If the big screen beyond is already this good after just getting released down the rode after future updates it should be amazing and the big screen beyond 2 if it ever comes out would be unbelievable
@Gerlaffy 5 місяців тому
Road *
@VeryRGOTI 5 місяців тому
Quite the Bigscreen you've got
@antonio_fosnjar 5 місяців тому
This is such a huge upgrade, I can't wait for the next gen of this product since 2nd gens always have the most improvements. This could very well drive oculus to develop something similar and more compact for PC only use because some of us don't care about portable VR aspect.
@kylesimpson6729 5 місяців тому
Thats crazy i always wondered when we was going to get a vr thats light and small it looks great it sounds great but i mean i got the quest 3 like last month and i dont really have any complaints so ill stick with that for now besides if we have this now then within the next few years im sure something just like this will come out but better. Eventually we will be able to walk outside and truly be in mixed reality without people staring at you like your crazy actually My prediction is 20 years from now everyone will be walking around with a vr on their head whether your a gamer or not i think it will be the new normal like how everyone walks around with a phone
@Milandaanza 4 місяці тому
I can't cover the cost of it honestly; but I'm so happy to see it and hope as time goes by we see more miniature headsets building on that design.
@BiscuitLazers44 5 місяців тому
For (as far as I know) first time hardware from big screen, this thing is awesome. Personally won’t be grabbing one due to the cost but if they are doing this well with a rev 1, I’m sure in 5 years they will have an astounding wireless version that will better fit my liking.
@stateazure 5 місяців тому
I'm always looking forward to the tech improvements in this space, but it's pretty much a given that in even another 5 years, no matter how cool the hardware, there still won't be the games/content to match it. Alyx will probably still be the flagship VR title to play.
@321findus 5 місяців тому
I knew it was worth waiting a few years before jumping into VR. I'm still amazed by how quickly they're becoming lighter, more comfortable, less likely to cause motion sickness and better at showing clear and sharp images. I'll probably buy the next version of this headset when it comes out, it would be perfect for rim racing for hours at a time in VR, something I've never felt like doing with a bulky, heavy VR headset.
@penedrador 5 місяців тому
Don't bother. Just get a quest, todays games are made for it anyway, you won't get more out of them with a better headset.
@stateazure 5 місяців тому
I agree with this. I mean the overall issue with all VR hasn't improved a whole lot and is the most important thing i.e. content. IMO 99% of 'designed for VR' is still garbage, and tech demo kind of quality (with some exceptions), but the Quest system is well worth it I think.@@penedrador
@penedrador 5 місяців тому
@@stateazure yes, that's what I tried to say: get a quest, because most VR games are made for it anyway, SteamVR games are most often just ported quest games
@mrshoofie 5 місяців тому
3:44 exploiting your own children with a shovel and construction hat 😂
@anthonywashington2885 5 місяців тому
The background comment 😂
@galacticviper4453 5 місяців тому
This looks amazing, but I'm going to wait for my Nofio adapter for my Index. Completely wireless Index will be sick. Personally the trade in image quality will be worth not having to deal with cables.
@chaster_mief Місяць тому
I knew we'd be getting really small headsets soon but I didn't think that it's already happened, vr is evolving so fast, were probably going to have vr glasses by next year🗿
@watcher1245 5 місяців тому
Always wondered why the vr headsets were so bulky with consideration to cellphones. But theres always someone out there that'll break the norm and create something new and off the primordial corporate think box. And to those people i wish absolute success always.
@KirkwoodImaging 5 місяців тому
I built myself a pretty nice sim racing setup and one of my favorite parts of it is inviting friends over and sharing the experience with them. The Bigscreen seems amazing but I'd hate it not being flexible for multiple people like my Index. Additionally, 120hz+ spoils you, especially in sim racing. Soooo... Still wainting on the Deckard.
@luchinazo 5 місяців тому
I think ima get this, already have vive base stations and wands. Headset is for a target demographic now, although it makes sense that at some point in the future everyone will have it's own vr headset the same way you don't lend your phone now. They are establishing a precedent for other companies to start doing the same. I think the price is for funding because eventually it has to come down to $200 - $300 to be mass adopted and early adopters always pay the research price first.
@superXopressor 5 місяців тому
This is the future, finally;
@jod422 5 місяців тому
This looks brilliant, and I would totally buy it, but it’s a bit out of my price range right now. I might have a go and something like it in a new years when the price drops, but my quest 2 with quest link is good enough
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