I made a custom ASIC: World's first of its kind
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День томуThis amazing project show how simple it can be to make a custom chip.
Ok, it might not be the best example but it's a world first.
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0:00 Intro
2:20 Tiny Tapeout
3:00 Caravel full of treasures
4:24 My contribution
6:35 Project PCB
7:53 PCB Manufacturing
9:00 PCB assembly
11:41 3rd attempt
13:18 Hardware test
13:50 Firmware
15:21 Results
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#ASIC #Verilog #Electronics
@Fluburtur Місяць тому
I worked at a fab (photolithography specifically, shining angry lights into rocks to make them smart) and knowing what it takes to make chips it blows my mind that this tech is accessible to individuals, thats cool
@mllarson Місяць тому
"Shining angry lights into rocks to make them smart" needs to be on a t-shirt 🤣
@scottgal1 Місяць тому
@@mllarson We then trap lightning in the rocks to make them think.
@jamescollier3 Місяць тому
I worked for AMAT. Someone said, "8000 people looking for a new job."
@randomsomeguy156 Місяць тому
If anyone happens to see this and can chime in. How does one who is interested in chip design and manufacturing get into the industry? I would be most interested in designing chip architecture (but anything higher or lower than that would be awesome as well), but working in a fab would be insane as well
@rodrigodemais Місяць тому
I am a chip designer and I would say just go pursue EE or CE majors in university and the path will be there. Today chip companies are hiring like crazy and in a couple of years this hiring will continue to grow.@@randomsomeguy156
@MrMaxeemum Місяць тому
I worked in the PCB industry 30 years ago and was amazed when it became accessible to the general public, and now it the same with ASICs. MIND BLOWN!!!
@notaras1985 24 дні тому
What changed?
@user-tc2ky6fg2o Місяць тому
When you immediately recognize a 'movement' on 32x32 pixels @ 3 FPS and 4 colors, in 6-8 frames total length, then that movement is really etched into mankind's brain.
@birkinsornberger263 Місяць тому
Lmao! The moment I saw it I went "fuck you!"🤣 it's crazy that we can immediately recognize what it is haha
@reyariass Місяць тому
@@birkinsornberger263it truly is!
@G7Animated Місяць тому
That’s crazy but how
@emilcrafter Місяць тому
I an instantly going to guess that it’s either a rickroll or bad apple
@stevebabiak6997 Місяць тому
I had suspected it was a Rick roll as soon as he said all of the pieces had a description except for that very one. Because people like to have a Rick roll pop up in unexpected places, in unexpected ways …
@DigBipper188 Місяць тому
The fact that photolithography is now accessible enough that a youtuber was capable of making their own chips... blows my mind!
@conorstewart2214 Місяць тому
It’s not really a youtuber being capable of making their own chips, rather it is an open source project being able to produce a chip with lots of peoples designs on it, still at a rather significant cost with no real purpose other than education. The fab has probably cut them a really good deal. It’s not like you imply where a youtuber can just get any custom chip made, it is still not accessible except in this specific open source project.
@Mr.Leeroy Місяць тому
I think you underestimate yotubers power. Such times, much progression, right..
@corwin.macleod Місяць тому
Most UKpostsrs that do tech and science related stuff are pretty gifted individuals, a lot of them work in the industry, a lot of them are self-taught professionals or both.
@Clancydaenlightened Місяць тому
You can do it in your garage using older fab like nmos and pmos with micron feature sizes Like photo etching a pcb
@Sixta16 Місяць тому
It would be much more mindblowing to do something else, useful, than a tiny ROM chip.
@andreas9756 Місяць тому
Gotta love that the QC sticker reads "Accetpable" at 6:35!
@matthewvenn Місяць тому
Good spot! It's one of our standard mispelt qc stickers!
@4.0.4 Місяць тому
Someone needs to add QC to the QC stickers.
@qwertyboguss Місяць тому
QCeption
@sharkysharkerson Місяць тому
There's no better purpose in life than putting so much effort into something so frivolous.
@o0julek0o Місяць тому
What’s life without whimsy?
@elmariachi5133 Місяць тому
Doing any actually useful thing just starts in value and satisfaction where frivolous things top out. But obviously this is not a frivolous thing, as it's just a proof of concept and testing of the overall project whil will have plenty of use.
@jino139 Місяць тому
Actually is massive Karma
@the.bog. Місяць тому
That’s such a smart idea! Doing a group buy for silicon is insanely clever! 🤯
@conorstewart2214 Місяць тому
The only problem is the small size of the design and that everyone gets access to your design.
@graealex Місяць тому
@@conorstewart2214 Which is usually okay as a tool for education. It's a bit like these tiny satellite programs - CubeSats. Not much you can do in a 10x10x10cm satellite. But at least it gets sent to space. Last year they launched 400 satellites, and due to advances in designing micro-satellites, there are now more commercial and amateur projects on board.
@theevilnoob96 Місяць тому
No it's just a niche at this point
@AnonymousAnarchist2 Місяць тому
@@conorstewart2214Computers got thier start because everyone was sharing thier designs. All the universities, and radio hobbists shared every detail. Thats how we get the idea of file formats and standards that allow the internet itself to work at all. Without that open share model computers would all have thier own file formats, some would use binary other trinary some might even use digitized analog adders but none would be compatable with each other.
@ZeroToASICcourse Місяць тому
@@conorstewart2214 that's not a problem, it's a feature
@JohnVance Місяць тому
Rideshare for ASIC, this is fascinating and hilarious and wholesome all at the same time, thanks so much for broadening our horizons.
@4.0.4 Місяць тому
Fun fact: the human brain is able to recognize certain things instantly, such as faces, your own name, and the rickroll meme.
@radarmusen Місяць тому
Rick can be proud to the first publication on the new ASIC media.
@johnbrooks7350 Місяць тому
I’m currently taking an ASIC class in grad school and I honestly will prolly still take this course. It’s amazing how education at university never seems to match up to classes taught by people with such passion
@matthewvenn Місяць тому
We hope tiny tapeout gets used by lots of universities!
@hstrinzel Місяць тому
No way ... WAY! FABulous! What a smart and fun project! Brilliant and very inspiring! THANK YOU for keeping to create such fun stuff! Keep right on creating!
@spazoq Місяць тому
Always check for shorts with an ohm meter before powering on a board. I'm sure you've hear that a million times by now.
@ArneChristianRosenfeldt Місяць тому
A fuse would even protect if you drop a metal wire .
@rya3190 Місяць тому
@@ArneChristianRosenfeldtWouldn't the 0ohm resisters act, if a bit flawed, like a fuse? Granted, the tolerance for it would have to be lower than what you're powering with it...
@ArneChristianRosenfeldt Місяць тому
@@rya3190 I was more thinking if on boot up you could set the power limits for each tile ( most of the to zero ). Why else would they care if a single tile can pull down the whole chip? Isn’t there really a power management?
@4jochen Місяць тому
This is a great project from many points of view. Just Great. !!! I'm Senior electronic Design engineer myself - and love your inspiring projects , openness with misshapes and the story telling. Just, Thanks.
@PaulBunkey Місяць тому
This is how advertising should be done. In the context. With interested audience. By example.
@4.0.4 Місяць тому
Hmmm sounds like an idea, but how about another decade of focusing on gender, race politics, etc? In every ad? No?
@arduinoguru7233 Місяць тому
Thank you for your chary spirit, you give me motivation every time I watch your videos
@SirRandallDoesStuff Місяць тому
Man, I would love to be able to make SNES and NES ASIC chips for a custom clone console.
@ArneChristianRosenfeldt Місяць тому
Count the pins! I wonder how the surge protection works. Maybe we want to do intense compute and need a lot of current in one tile, while the other is just sram?
@Ironclad17 Місяць тому
A similar project for a handful of consoles and retro pcs we have working on fpgas would be a novel idea.
@iamjimgroth Місяць тому
Can't you simulate those old things on a 328?
@ArneChristianRosenfeldt Місяць тому
@@Ironclad17 you mean to re-use the design as written in VDHL ? Mister Cores get updates all the time. So better stick with pre 1990
@nobodynoone2500 Місяць тому
What a huge accomplishment! Well done!
@raymitchell9736 Місяць тому
This is a COOL idea! And open source... WOW!
@hidde1626 Місяць тому
Amazing that this is so accessible.
@thamikemannote Місяць тому
the selection idea is genious!!!
@paulushdk Місяць тому
such an awesome project!
@johnjakson444 Місяць тому
MOSIS has been doing this since the 1980s which favored US student engineers taking VLSI design courses, I think Europe had a similar project too.
@ArneChristianRosenfeldt Місяць тому
But isn’t it great that now you don’t have to sign an NDA?
@matthewvenn Місяць тому
@@ArneChristianRosenfeldtand you can use free and accessible open source tools!
@pentachronic 25 днів тому
@@ArneChristianRosenfeldt You have to open source your project though. Not particularly good for development of new technology.
@ArneChristianRosenfeldt 25 днів тому
@@pentachronic the fab process is open source and all projects so far seem to be typical homework assignments. I don’t even know what the cutting edge is right now, but it seems to deal with scaling to many transistors. Far more than you can buy here.
@AndersNielsenAA Місяць тому
You could've... But you... TinyTapeout really is amazing. Love it!
@djmips Місяць тому
Fun idea and very informative! whimsy for the win.
@biggertigger Місяць тому
Perfect sample choice.
@kroojohn Місяць тому
a very interesting project :) also a lot of funny moments :) Those revisions are the bane of every PCB designer :) Keep dong this, you are great !!!!
@matthewvenn Місяць тому
loved the video! Thanks Luni!
@jelletje8 24 дні тому
This is such a cool concept.
@DynamicSun Місяць тому
wow, Großartig, Glückwunsch, da geht mir's Herz auf als Techniker, bin begeistert
@Anvilshock Місяць тому
For a very, very, very, very specific definition of "first" and "kind".
@drdca8263 Місяць тому
While the definition of “kind” may need to be somewhat specific, I don’t think “first” needs an unusual definition?
@3nertia 17 днів тому
One step closer to open source hardware and I LOVE YOU FOR IT! One step closer to open source touchscreens, e-ink displays, and maybe eventually even cpus/gpus! 😃
@enilenis Місяць тому
Ability to order custom made chips, like PCBway makes printed boards, would be amazing. Though one would have to exhaust FPGA's first. For something like this, I would've gone with a programmable gate array. There'd be place in there for the graphics, there'd be dedicated rom. Ability to maybe even mimic a decoder. VGA signal is easy to generate... but yeah... that's not the point here. The point is that it's cool to be able to make ASIC's. A PCB can me manufactured at home, given the right tools. A microchip production plant? Not in the wildest dreams.
@satibel Місяць тому
I mean you can have a microchip plant as long as you're willing to compromise on the size. A few hundred junctions are easy enough to make with a couple hundred grand of hardware, it's basically pcb but small and with deposition. Making something like a ring buffer for addressable leds should be doable at home.
@kennethbeal Місяць тому
Nicely done!
@Gameplayer55055 Місяць тому
Just imagine if you uploaded the chip design only to discover that you forgot to place one junction
@ArneChristianRosenfeldt Місяць тому
Imagine that simulation went a long way and this for top students who don’t make mistakes anyway.
@matthewvenn Місяць тому
that's why we encourage everyone to verify!
@mzimmerman1988 Місяць тому
Nice video! This makes me want to learn more about ASIC
@CoruscationsOfIneptitude Місяць тому
zero to asic with matt venn
@gregorymccoy6797 Місяць тому
Never had leading edge tech been put to a better use. Well done, Sir.
@MegaTraxxas Місяць тому
Well, that's not really the leading edge technology 😂
@z80softcard Місяць тому
great job !
@giantbee9763 11 годин тому
Wow, fun and cool project bitluni!
@maxmyzer9172 Місяць тому
I wish i knew about this, this is so cool!!
@b00lean Місяць тому
You, Sir, are a genious!
@alan- Місяць тому
gratz and props!
@greedtheron8362 21 день тому
It's so crazy that we can get custom silicon these days(granted, with a 9 month lead time). Wouldn't be surprised if this gets better and better and in twenty years, we'll have places like PCBway giving you custom chips to go with your custom boards.
@Asn.1ce Місяць тому
Awesome video as always
@alexriesenbeck Місяць тому
Great work! That Timelapse music sounds straight out of Sim City
@fooglestuff Місяць тому
Nice one, bitluni! Great to see, and thanks for sharing this level of detail :) I hope you do more Tiny Tapeout submissions in future! Maybe time to try an analog layout...? :)
@marcfruchtman9473 Місяць тому
Thanks for the interesting video.
@TradieTrev Місяць тому
I'm really impressed we can do this in our modern age, I thought they only let the biggest and brightest minds to have a crack!
@gljames24 Місяць тому
I really wanted to do tiny tapeout after hearing about it a bit ago, but I've been a bit too busy. Hopefully it'll still be going when I can get to writing something in verilog.
@GRBtutorials Місяць тому
Look at the “Tiny Tapeout Chips” section in the sidebar. They’ve got chips planned every few months at least until the end of 2024.
@fuzziau5669 Місяць тому
hoping someday we can manufacture ASIC's from home. would be incredible to have even the more basic of minimum-required tooling to make something without relying on a few major companies that are politically involved. even if not at home - like some others have said - PCBWay is a great example of advances in electronics/embedded engineering for the masses at low expense!
@TheKakan1337 Місяць тому
A wild communist furry?
@hudsonreynolds4349 Місяць тому
Love it
@andrewdewar8159 Місяць тому
Awesome !
@imantssakne9486 Місяць тому
congrats
@msmith2961 Місяць тому
That was also probably the world's nerdiest rick roll! Loved it!
@Embassy_of_Jupiter 23 дні тому
Ayyyyyy sick, bro
@tomacaster Місяць тому
10:10 the most billiant idea I've seen since I woke up today.
@pluggedfinn-bj3hn 16 днів тому
I was like "if it isn't a rickroll I'll write a mad comment" the moment he mentioned it being something graphical I was not disappointed :D
@grandmasterautistwizard4291 25 днів тому
DIY photolithography and custom chips are a fucking insane concept.
@korishan Місяць тому
Just came across a video on Twitter of "Touchable Flames". The "flames" are made from water vapor and red led lights. It looks like flames, even while putting your hands through the misting.
@berenedain8427 11 днів тому
You pass butter! Oh my GOD!
@kennethhicks2113 Місяць тому
When I'm lazy with a VR, i use a few diodes and resistor (series)... you know this tho.... Great project : )
@CoruscationsOfIneptitude Місяць тому
Tiny Tapeout!
@Tehom1 Місяць тому
Clearly you are never going to give that ASIC up.
@enjibkk6850 Місяць тому
Perfect conclusion 😂
@CraigBurden1 Місяць тому
Is that an ESD safe fingerprint on the chip when you are assembling it? 😆
@ChristianStout День тому
Where'd you get the solder paste stencil? Does Aisler provide those with their orders?
@shinekamil Місяць тому
What model is your SMD reflow heater? Would you recommend it for purchase?
@AlokSharma1 Місяць тому
Bhai maja aa gaya Epic Bhai tm BABA h
@zyxwvutsrqponmlkh Місяць тому
This is really really really cool, I am just sad you cant order quantities. $300 for a custom (really small) chip is awesome, just wish I could order 1000 more for $1 each.
@ressamendy Місяць тому
I'm more interested in SIP and modules. You have dived much deeper. Actually, it would be enough if I gathered the ready-made products under one roof. (Especially in SIP form and Esp32 s3 and sx1262 chips)
@graealex Місяць тому
Maybe through technical advances, economies of scale and multi-project wafer services, one day silicon production can get similar turn-around like what happened in the PCB industry.
@ZPdrumer Місяць тому
It would take a lot of changes. Making stencils for all the layers is really expensive. You can’t “print” them out like with PCB where tracks are very wide (certainly compared to features in a chip). The tools used to dope silicon and deposit SiO2 are also not cheap. It would definitely be cool to get to that point. But it’s pretty far away for now
@yetzt Місяць тому
oh, wow.
@NicksStuff Місяць тому
This is sooooo nerdy! But I love it!!! How much was one chip? And the whole project?
@nziom Місяць тому
Nice
@thejavaman53 Місяць тому
In the history of humanity, This will be remembered as a day when we all got rick-rolled by the first custom home-made ASIC.
@rrrrrr9308 Місяць тому
Fine solution to the microchip crisis! Easy to do some really simple and primitive CPUs!
@typxxilps Місяць тому
I have no clue at all except I am a bit aware of asic developement for FPV flying or goggles and the hd stream in a project that did not take off cause the investment back then was finally far too big - a million € figure ,not even a 2 or 3 but rather a 5 million figure to get that done. But funding did not happen. But that was rather a companion role and no technical one. But I like this video really a lot and all the struggles with the iterations.
@jacobdavidcunningham1440 Місяць тому
crazy what is trivial knowledge to one person vs. the other
@megan_alnico Місяць тому
Could one take a Mister FPGA core and build an ASIC form it? Can it do analog circuits? Would a C64 SID replacement be possible?
@TecSanento Місяць тому
So even as a group buy - what did one of those chips cost you :)? (and how much cheaper would it have been if you ordered more?)
@DeliciousDeBlair Місяць тому
Did you use some kind of special fluid to safely remove soldered parts? If so, I have never heard of such a product and would be VERY interested to know what it is!
@ProtonOne11 Місяць тому
He just uses flux paste that helps the solder to flow better. Then you have to heat the solder to melting temperature again to remove the chip. I guess you could try to find some very specific acid that only attacks the tin in the solder, but i don't think this exists and it would just eat away all the metals, including the legs of the chip or other components.
@tossancuyota7848 Місяць тому
dime how did u get ur hand on a lithography machine that actually work
@smackout Місяць тому
drone flight controller?
@KWifler Місяць тому
I heard that multiplying numbers is hard for processors. So what if someone made a multiplication table chip? Would that speed up computers?
@royalt9863 16 днів тому
You used my text message ringtone! Mario 1-up
@beartastic-ftw Місяць тому
ROFL. Well played!
@St0RM33 Місяць тому
hehe i made this kind of pinout mistake too on my board;p botched a fix before the re-design;p
@harrylenon9594 Місяць тому
is tinyTapeout only RTL, or can you do custom layout? also what tools are used for layout, i use cadence for work but that is anything but free and open source lol
@quantumsmith371 Місяць тому
You can do analog on the latest tinytapeouts. The most supported toolchain is xschem + magic + ngspice
@awefjlx Місяць тому
Anyone knows how many ASICs you get for participating?
@peterweller8583 Місяць тому
One of us.
@randyhelzerman Місяць тому
Congrats, no small achievement
@user-xm1ts5dt9v Місяць тому
How much money required for asic?
@stevebabiak6997 Місяць тому
6:42 - I might have chosen a 91K with a 100K for the divider to get the 1.8V from the 3.3V, but maybe that would have been an extra component value that you didn’t care to have to “handle”
@ProtonOne11 Місяць тому
Kiloohms?? That would be way off, if the chip draws any current on the 1.8V net. Even the 100 Ohm voltage divider is far from ideal, as the current draw on a logic core supply is not static. So you modulate a voltage ripple on the core supply voltage thanks to the resistors. Depending on the chip, not meeting the core voltage specs and not using a stable supply voltage can give you all kinds of errors and issues that are super hard to track down. Worst case, it could even kill the core, and for a chip that you can't just order replacements, i'd think twice about the risk of destruction because of lazy circuit designs.
@sroesner Місяць тому
As this behaves like a rom, wouldn't it had been interesting to create a "rom", which returns a different image every time you read it? Then you could still animate something (by just reading/displaying the picture in a loop from the ESP32), but really make use of the ASIC
@Gabirell Місяць тому
ASIC Travolta 😂 👏👏👏👏
@jaimied.5417 5 днів тому
What PCB software do you use?
@AlokSharma1 Місяць тому
Gajab
@AlJay0032 Місяць тому
What was the price of the Asic production with all the designs in the tiny tapeout?
@ninethirtyone4264 Місяць тому
Europractice offers similar service, and the costs per design is few thousand euros, so I imagine it's similar here (You are paying for multiple units because it's one whole wafer peen batch of projects, plus bonding and packaging service which is pretty expensive)
@AlJay0032 Місяць тому
I found the price, it is ten k for a project and if you split the cost it is less, so in the tinytapeout it comes down to $150 per design and it's $50 per sq mm from the chip fab, or something like that. So actually quite affordable compared to what the prices were in the past.@@ninethirtyone4264
@DavidHappel1337 Місяць тому
Supernerd++++ :D
@CMOSTheBattery Місяць тому
now we need to make an asic that only runs doom
@andrewferguson6901 Місяць тому
Oh you can compile c on toaster? I rewrote doom in silicon
@andrewferguson6901 Місяць тому
Wait hasn't someone already done this with Redstone? Free template
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