EA:we didn't prepare the lots or lore because we want you to tell your own story? EA: oh but not the worlds. you can't customize those at all.

The thing I think the Sims team doesn't understand is that we players can make our own worlds and builds way better than they can. What they need to give us is the systems to make what we want work better. For Rent would have been amazing if they just gave us the ability to create rentals with lots of different furniture styles and animations. But EA skimps on animations now and the whole world seems like it was created by FX designers and has zero substance. Would it have killed them to make a lot to go to for the tiger thing and play a cinematic video of our sims looking and the tiger doing a different cycle of animations when you visit. Sims 2 had features like this. Sims 4 is a decade old and there is barely anything in the game and sims still can barely do anything but talk together.

I swear, EA is so lucky that their players are willing to save the game that they don't make gameplay for. I saw the community build hotels, retiring homes, boarding schools, shelters and prisons with this pack. And this itself makes it more valuable to purchase it than anything EA made.

Instantly clicked because I've never seen you say a positive thing about a pack. Wow.

I think it's worth mentioning that this pack isn't just broken, it's actually causing massive irreparable corruptions to save files whereby the player can't even load the save anymore. That I feel goes way beyond buggy or glitchy and really deserves to be highlighted more by all content creators to force some action on the sims team to get it fixed.

The graveyard being next to the retirement home 😂😂😂 Brutal, Satch!

You were right with your initial review, though. This whole debacle should have been a game pack from the get go. You're right here too, though. This could've been a great game pack if the landlord mechanics were implemented properly, but I still would want a world with the GP, though. GPs get worlds, too.

This was such a simple pack , with SO much potential, yet it still looks so lackluster and missing so much.

Prewatch prediction.... Satch is just trolling us. Lets see if I'm right.

The difference between renters (For Rent) and roommates (discover university) is roommates are locked off for gameplay and you can never ‘be’ them, they HAVE to be NPCs. Roommates can also only be single adult sims and never families or couples even. They can ONLY be single renters, you can’t have a family of 2 or 3 with children, you can have them as a retained family renting from you as part of the For Rent pack. Since I play rotationally and jump between different families who know each other, I honestly cared more about being a tenant than landlord but with this pack I get to play both, this is HUGE for me. I also like putting families in rentals. Having two families on a single lot is fun. Especially to have other children and teens next door who might pop up in a townhouse setup. That being said, For Rent is an overpriced build tool with lackluster features as a pack beyond this. But I still don’t regret buying it as the one thing I wanted it for does do the job. I never experienced the billion dollar rent bug, I have experienced my owned rentals disappearing which was annoying. Also the day rate system makes no sense. And what affects the ratings system and when you are allowed to evict justly and the build tools locking you out if you aren’t playing that family all make for annoying gameplay. Most of the people I have in residential rentals I made, I rarely use the ‘search for tenants’ feature and they will pay any rent you set. Also, I have had the game populate my apartments and houses and I spend a load of time booting them out cause I was saving those spots for specific families. 😂

For the University pack I always locked the dorm room doors then unlocked them for the Sims that are staying in that specific dorm room.

Thumbnail: pack so good I was wrong Satch in the first 10 second: the pack trash and broken and do not buy it

Modders will fix the problems so I'll just wait for unofficial patches

I'll be honest, I do find that the sims 4 For Rent was a bit rushed, it seems like they spent so much time into making the trailer for it that they didn't do a proper test of the game or a proper review, they got everyone so hyped for something that will require a lot of bug fixes. And I'll be honest because of this issue with the packs, I tend to put off buying any sort of DLC for the sims, that come out brand new till like almost a year after it has been out, otherwise there will be so many bugs that need to be fixed until you can play it properly. But really, I love your reviews cuz it's so honest and true. Love your videos

I would have been happy with a free base game update that allows residential rentals to be built 😁. Some of my favorite builds are the ones creators were making excitedly when the info regarding the pack leaked...before any of the for rent items were even available Maybe in the future they'll do it. I mean ...they made removing shoes free base game content so maybe eventually they'll do the same for these residential rentals

I will say that university roommates never cover their portion of the bills, it’s rarely worth it especially for larger builds. When tenants do pay (I haven’t had too many bugs with that personally) as long as the rent is more than the 50 simoleon tax it’s not too bad covering the bills. You just won’t get rich from rent. My favorite weird use I’ve found is making a mini neighborhood of tiny cabins for the Moonwood Collective werewolves. The alpha is the landlord and each pack mate has their own little house with lots of shared activities outside. The shared spaces are my favorite part, you can basically have any kind of community lot (that doesn’t require vendors) to skill build and socialize without having to go through a loading screen.

What's sad imo is that most of this was already possible without the pack AND could be done without a ton of loading screens. You can use the roommate system without having to set up every single room and space and just lock doors. For Rent only makes things more complicated and much more buggy. They literally sold their fans what they already own and added complexity and bugs, and most fans ate it up unfortunately.

I always view things both as their idea and execution, and idea behind for rent pack is life brining, this could've been city living times ten, but execution failed miserably. Imagine my disappointment when I saw that "shared rooms" are not in fact shared, but rather are multidimensional rooms that exist in multiple variants in all of apartments. I saw my sim's parents sitting on the couch in shared living room, clicket to visit my neighbors and sim's parents have disappeared and replaced with tenants from other apartment, sitting in their version of the same room. Just no.

Setting up worlds was always one of my favorite things to do in Sims 3-- like finding and setting up themed versions of new lot types that would fit into existing worlds. So, For Rent has definitely brought back that aspect of fun for me. But then I go into Live mode to play with the worlds I've so carefully set up and am bored within 10 minutes. 😂

I didn't know you could turn off events. Thank you so much! Honestly I feel like this pack broke my game. I did send my save to the developers because I want them to fix this broken pack ASAP.

I'm absolutely loving the multiple households feature of this pack, and I don't really care about the other features. This alone makes it a very important pack for me. It just gives me so many opportunities to play out certain fantasies! But I have to say, Tomarang is a pathetic world.

Can EA just fix the bugs so I can buy the pack, I want this pack but I won't buy it broken even if that means I never buy it. Thanks for being real and letting us know of features that are worth it and features that aren't, I appreciate it.

Do you have neighborhood stories turned on? The game populated households in units for residential rental lots for me, including a lot my sims family owned. It was a bit chaotic since I was waiting on rebate day to finish furnishing their unit, and that bedless unit was filled as well. 😅

For Rent is just my last straw, like I will never buy anything for the Sims again, I will buy games that are actually worth it

Totally agreed. It is completely unethical to have released the pack as broken as it is.

Another video released just as I was starting to have a breakdown. Thanks for unintentionally helping once more

Satch... Satch... Satch... the graveyard next to the retirement home is so dark 😂😂😂😂 tztztz 😂😂 "And when you look out to the right, you will see your forever home" 😅

I haven't explored the landlord gameplay yet, but from what I've seen, it doesn't look like fun at all. The only part I like about this pack is being able to make better use of the worlds. In Del Sol Valley, for example, I put apartments on those huge residential lots and had more space for community lots, in Strangerville I placed a rundown motel, etc

Satch could you please make a review video of the apartment mods and cc that are out there? I´m sure the modders made great stuff for the community even since City Living was released. Thanks, I love your videos your honesty is so needed in this community!

Putting the graveyard next to the retirement home is so devious, lmao

I'm good tbh.. I don't like the furniture in the pack, I don't like build items, the rental unit stuff seems like a lot of work. I might get it if it goes on like a %50 off thing in the future but it is sooooo not worth the full price imo.

5:47 I don't think EA is trying to block anything. I think the sims team just didn't figure out how to erase the pre-identification of the units and shared spaces from the build during the Gallery download. It's hard-coded in the build and your game can't read the code if you don't have the pack. Now if they would release the needed code to everyone in a patch update, that might make the downloads possible.

Why did residential rentals need a whole expansion pack, especially when City Living already exists? Like tiny houses were a STUFF PACK.

I do this when I get overwhelmed with how big my family is I move the teen heir to the basement for zero rent. They still get to see their family, but I don't have to control them. The for rent system is more fun than roommates, to me. More situation options.

Downloading a lot from the gallery and placing a lot from the gallery are two different buttons. I always use the left-most button to save to my library and then I'm free to place it on whichever lot

I have been getting paid as a landlord. It did take about 2 in game weeks to work, but now I get paid every Wed. I play on a PS4. The events are still glitch and getting a high rating on rentals is easy. The pack for sure has issues but I like having a multi families on one lot without controlling all my Sims all the time.

Okay I see where you are coming from! Looking forward to buying this 60% off in 4 years (just bought Cottage Living from 2020 on sale lol)

What happened to the Landgraab lore that was supposed to be revealed??

Renting out my basement was the first thing I did. I built the house about a month before the pack released, so I had the oldest kid live there as a teenager, then when the pack came out, I made it into a full apartment and rented it out to that punk guy who turned out to be evil. And that actually worked out because the dad/owner was evil too so when he got to the point where he had to make friends with a tenant, they were almost friends anyway. 😂

Setting as residential for gallery is a REALLY GREAT TIP!!! Thank you

I’m holding my almost 2 year old and he seen your thumbnail and said “daddy!” 😂😂 You kind of have a resemblance to my husband but I thought it was funny so I wanted to share lol

Oh hey now, first time I see buildings you built yourself (sorry, haven't watched any gameplay, just the other vids :P )... and you're very good! Love your rental building, the one that was empty but with kitchens and bathrooms, that's how we do things in Sweden anyway, you get your kitchen and toilet, but furnish the rest with your own stuff.

ngl i havent even touched this pack since it came out

I think ea is giving us these game packs priced as expansion packs because they're focusing more on "Project Renee" now and just want to milk every last cent out of the sims 4 before moving onto sims 5.

I want to say that I do agree with satch that they are too lazy to set up the world, I am the person who in every save will delete all the sims and lots to create my own world. But the system is so tedious that it is easy to tell that the create your own world was not the primary focus when the game was created, basic things like a delete all townies button or a select up to 50 townies to upload from your gallery are non existent. And don't get me started on the poorly implemented stories system and the need to have MCCC control to help better control your world so that generated sims come from your gallery and dress better.

I will have to re-upload my rentals as a residential lot, thanks for pointing this out! 😊

Thank you for this video- I’ve been seriously debating on even getting it (I have a completionist problem with the sims) but now I don’t think I’m going to get it until I see some bug fixes😢

I own a couple of packs and this vid inspired me that some older packs have some nice cross pack compatibility with the glitchy as hell for rent 😂❤ thank you for being my inspiration

Sims 2 did university perfectly. Everyone’s dorm rooms had a picture of the sim on the doors and the rooms went invisible when taken. Why they didn’t do something like that for the dorm rooms idk.

I placed a 4 apt build I made into Windenberg, and a couple of game days in, 3 apts were rented out/populated by the game. The 4th one took a couple of days, but now all 4 apts are filled. Now, I made another rental build, of 5 townhomes not attached, large common area in the middle of the lot, placed in Tomarang. Waited a few real time days before giving in and placing a household in one home myself. I'll wait longer to see if the game populates any more. I hope it does.

Also I agree with you, the rent part could have been a game pack and they could have made an expansion pack with the same world, except the right size and more in depth. Besides being too small for an expansion and the bugs, I’m really annoyed at only 4 market stalls and their placement and the rabbit hole tiger sanctuary. I could have done with like a tiger viewing area, where maybe your sim walks up to a fence or glass wall and maybe you see a tiger pop its head out of a bush or run by, like literally anything where you can see a tiger instead of a statue and another stupid rabbit hole.

Your retirement home and your cemetery look so awesome. Please upload soon. 😊 I'm playing University right now for the first time and I decided to use a rental, so disappointed because students won't autofill on their own. Gotta figure out strange and funny ways to get things to work properly, and it's way too much work for such little funisfaction. 🙄

The thing I like better about this than the roommate system, if you like to have lots of your sims living in close proximity because the (annoying) load screens keep the lot from lagging as bad. And I don’t think you can play first person as the roommate but in 4 rent you can play as the renter or the landlord. So if you want to have granny living in your basement suite you can switch to playing from her household if you want or playing the main family. I also really like the functional retirement communities now.

please blink twice if you here being held against your will

I am waiting with anticipation for your save files, the ideas that you implemented will make game play more interesting. 🤗

Basement might work for me. It bothers my ocd to see the blank rooms (that I can't see into) on my lots.

something underrated about the for rent pack is the kettle, its WAY better getting coffee/tea from a kettle than from the coffee maker, and definitely the tea maker.

7:47 Yes! I hate that too. I set up a really nice universe with venues in Newcrest, clubs at different venue types/in different worlds so the venues are always bustling, great holidays, etc., and I saved it as "Base Game", and I just start there with every new game I want to start. cause I'm not doing all that work again lmao!

I'm done. I've been playing and obsessed since the sims 1 but 2023 was the last year I will spend any money on the sims 4 they would have to do a lot and change a lot to get me back for sims 5 I'm just waiting for life by you this year and hopefully para lives within a few years. i'm sad about saying goodbye to the sims but i can barely play a few hours without getting bored because story telling is so restricted and lackluster

I agree, especially with the way that you need to change the lot type. That is super odd and very annoying to have to do all the time. Also find that arranging and uploading rental lots is confusing and tedious as well. Granted, the entire gallery experience is lacking in this game and needs a major overhaul, which sadly will not happen.

I mean… it’s a great *concept* to be sure. I was really looking forward to this pack. I still WANT this pack… as advertised. But even if I pay full price for it right now, I won’t get it. Everything is broken. I won’t get working pressure cookers or tea kettles or marble collections for kids or landlord gameplay or tenant gameplay or even dependable build/buy. 🤷🏼‍♀️ You say the crazy rent is fixed. There’s still an awful lot of active bug reports claiming it’s not. But I guess it’s… better? Slightly less likely to break?

I've found that the game does actually populate the empty rentals. I've built a few rentals, including one where my family lives in one of the flats, and all the other flats got populated very quickly.

My thought was just find a simple small tiny house and copy it a few times then you have a lot with a few to several houses on a lot. Problem is that I really like the tiny house system and the different systems in Sims 4 don't work together, best example being lot traits with Haunted House lot type as that is what mostly broke the Paranormal pack.

Realistically this is why I was excited by this pack and have fun with it since I made an apartment and trying to make a frat house for university (%#€$ being a landlord)

You've given so many cool ideas to try out for gameplay. Thanks!!

u can also lock ur bedroom door if u have university roommates. i like university and roommates function better than apartment neighbors bc they can invite their partner over to the house and people actually talk to u

I can't seem to change my Residential Rentals back to a regular Residential lot. Even with no one owning it or living there. I also put a rental on that lot. It has 10 units. It definitely makes it nice for, wow there's not enough lots!

You are so good at building !

Someone has to recalculate the numbers on this game. You are expected to make a huge investment, then make a further time investment, all for too little return. Finically, it makes no sense, it's a bad business model.

Did the sims team threaten you or something 😭

I saw the title, and I literally had to stop what I was doing and sit down to watch the video. I was shooked (is that how you spell that?)

I really like the retirement home idea! I never know what to do with all the elderly sims so I usually don't have a lot of grandparent sims hanging around lol. Also I always had the same thought with the Get Famous location as well.

I knew instantly both that I wanted the pack, and that it would release broken. I checked yesterday on the forum and the insane rent ticket was still open. Once that and landlords getting paid is fixed, I will buy it. I just hope I don't have to wait for too long!

Can you please do a game play in those apartments you made out of coffee tables a while back?

Ever since I downloaded it my game is sooo laggy, the animation lag is horrible and when you click on something it takes forever for the wheel to come up.

5:15 Coming up, EA bans double uploads of lots to conserve server storage that may negatively impact the environment and does not address the restriction of downloading different lot types from the gallery.

«For Rent» Está más roto y tiene menos gameplay que «My Wedding Stories». Tartosa es mejor que Tomarang. Ese es el nivel. Con el lanzamiento de este pack, me he pasado a la piratería. Después de haberme comprado 50 packs ahora juego con EA DLC Unlocker V2. La mejor decisión que he tomado, no vuelvo a comprar a EA en unos años.

I struggled with playing the back but just when I began to enjoy it, make entire save file was corrupted when I removed my active Sim’s unit from the list of rentals during game play thereby ejecting them into some sort of nether. The lot and save file are unrecoverable. Don’t even want to play anymore Probably going back to only watching others play 😞

I’m getting the pack soon!

i hate that we can’t see the interior of our renters🥱🙄

I was so excited with the new features of this pack that I've bought it regardless of my rules to never buy packs before 6 months after their release.... well, I've never experience such a laggy pack, ever! One of the most annoying thing is that when I build some rental and upload it to the gallery, the apartment setting glitches and never follows my settings, which means that when I load one apartment kn the first floor, I find I've got an additional kitchen, bathroom, or bedroom on the third floor... also, my game now freezes all the time and crashes. It feels like the sims 3 glitchy vibes but without the fun of the sims 3. Anyway, avoid buying this pack.

I love how you have the graveyard right next to the retirement home. They don’t have to travel far! 😂

I would love an expansion pack that came with a world you could edit. I would be fine if they stopped releasing worlds and gave us that. I only play in 1 or 2 worlds anyways. I find it frustrating they can release games that aren’t working properly. They always seem to fall short of the bar.

Can we even have holiday homes with the pack? I was hoping for that 🥲

There was a mod that removes Loading Screens in the same neighborhood, I wonder if it works with For Rent

I’ve never had an issue getting paid. It is buggy while in build mode. And some of the features are buggy like maintenance stuff.

I'm so glad you changed your tune a bit as this pack has completely changed my sims gameplay! I love making 6 unit lots (I'd highly recommend to not go above this as game becomes very slow!) But its sooo fun to play with the sims and get them to interact in the communal area, it's like having a community lot on your doorstep! Also building multi units means you can fill out those big lots that are impossible to fill!

I started my current save as a tenant in a motel-like multi unit lot and I got random households moving in and out in the other rooms. Not sure if it was base game or MCCC mod doing that.

I love ur entire existence ✨ 💖 this video was a god send 🙌

I like this camouflage Shirt 😊

I haven't bought the pack and probably won't until its on sale but I mostly want it for multigenerational houses or to have neighbors for story telling but im concerned I won't be able to stop sims moving out of the rentals i put them in and having to keep forcing them back. Is there a way to keep that from happening?

Can you download the rental lots that sims make if you don’t own the for rent pack . I like to use townhouses and apartments but don’t what to get the rental pack.

I don’t understand the reason of having loading screens within the same lot, if the lot was a residential with roommates you can go into their rooms but if it’s a rental you can’t? I don’t see how it would cause more lag

So what was it that you were wrong about..? But I really appreciate influencers who correct what they already posted, thank you for this.

Well there's a pro and con to changing it to a residential lot before it's uploaded. Whoever downloads it will need to separate the rooms themselves which can be tedious. They should just upload both and direct people accordingly

don't have the pack and havent played the sims in a bit but l love your videos

I have the 4 rent pack. And I actually use it a lot for multi. Family multi generations living on the same lot.

I have the expansion pack but I haven't purchased it 🙈

Not the graveyard next to the retirement home 😂😂😂😂

:'))))) I'm afraid that if you rented out your basement with Discover University, you might have your roommates deciding that they can't take care of their needs because roommates seem to get confused if they live anywhere in the house but on the main floor... then they'll move out. lol I rented out a basement that I built under the house that the Partihaus household from Get Together is usually in and I only had maybe two or three of however many roommates stay for very long, and one roommate wasn't even living in the basement, so he ended up accidentally becoming the control test subject in this experiment. lol Actually, I had a whole upper floor built onto this house before the basement that seemed to have the same if not worse problems with roommates.