Why We Should NOT Look For Aliens - The Dark Forest
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The Universe is incredibly big and seems full of potential for life, with billions of habitable planets. If an advanced civilization had the technology to travel between the stars, at just 0.1% of the speed of light, It could colonize our galaxy in roughly 100 million years. Which is not that long given the billions of years the milky way has existed - so in principle any spacefaring civilization should be able to spread rapidly over huge sectors of the galaxy. And yet we see nothing, hear nothing, the universe seems empty. Devoid of others. This is the Fermi Paradox, which we have discussed in more detail in other videos.
Confronted with the seemingly empty universe, humanity faces a dilemma. We desperately want to know if we are alone in the Milky Way. We want to call out and reveal ourselves to anyone watching but that could be the last thing we ever do. Because maybe the universe is not empty. Maybe it’s full of civilizations but they are hiding from each other. Maybe the civilizations that attracted attention in the past were wiped away by invisible arrows. This is the Dark Forest solution to the Fermi paradox.
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If this video made you curious and you like reading great and long sci fi books, check out the three body problem by Liu Cixin, who formulated the dark forest idea for the first time. And with that, we say good bye to the year 12,021. It truly was a wild time, and passed so, so quickly. For us at the Kurzgesagt team it was full of changes and achievements and we learned so much and tried so many new things. And we have so many exciting ideas and projects that we can’t wait to share with you next year! I know I say this often but doing Kurzgesagt really is just such a joy. We only can do this because of you, so thank you so, so much. We appreciate it more than you might imagine. Have wonderful holidays and get safely into the year 12,022. We’ll see you on the other side! - Philipp PS: And if you want to help us do what we do, check out our store with sciency products made with love: kgs.link/shop-156
@FalconType 2 роки тому
You fell off + ratio
@cubit404 2 роки тому
Same thing you kurzgesagt!
@nothingexists5066 2 роки тому
First
@craftingcloud8642 2 роки тому
First
@misterchef944 2 роки тому
BS LIFE IS OUT THERE
@daenite2480 2 роки тому
Imagine finally getting a message from space, and after decoding it, the message says "be quiet, they'll hear you."
@sticktheok 2 роки тому
oh no
@pHixiq 2 роки тому
Oh shit 😂. We gonna get got
@Skemmm 2 роки тому
but they will expose themselves by doing this, so not a smart move.
@mrcheese3092 2 роки тому
@@Skemmm by expose wym expose and how
@Arthera0 2 роки тому
@@Skemmm of course they would relay this message far away from themselves if they have that technology
@betterchapter 2 роки тому
Imagine someone on another planet seeing a similar space sci-fi vid about our planet
@jaari2032 2 роки тому
Man with checkmark must like
@Jay2480 2 роки тому
How only 3 mins ago what
@A_87mine 2 роки тому
Yo
@cocoardo4394 2 роки тому
And there is another one writing this reply.
@rob5393 2 роки тому
Imagine an alien making a coment such as yours on that video
@Croc21000 8 місяців тому
I love how humans are so optimistic about finding intelligent life even though we don't even get along with each other a lot of the time.
@ninajasmin731 8 місяців тому
maybe that's the reason we are like this haha
@Croc21000 8 місяців тому
@ninajasmin731 hmmmm. perhaps the lack of exposure to other intelligent life may cause a lack of opposition in political opinions other lifeforms may have, causing us to feel more important than all other life in the universe.
@anoobagain5008 8 місяців тому
Maybe we arent really intelligent compared to aliens and theyd be peaceful because they’re actually intelligent
@Randomguy-nr6qr 8 місяців тому
@@anoobagain5008idk it feels like the more intelligent a life form is the more cruel they can be
@anoobagain5008 8 місяців тому
@@Randomguy-nr6qr I feel like stupid life forms are cruel too we just dont see it because they are too stupid to do cruel things
@obsoquasi 8 місяців тому
"don't reply" was the answer humans got in Cixin Liu's Three Body Problem when the protagonist sent out her first succesful interstellar transmission, powerful enough to reach our neighbors. This book, and the two others in the series, are as terrific as they are terrifying.
@henrywang3403 6 місяців тому
That’s the first story to use the term “dark forest”.
@smokbig3202 6 місяців тому
@@henrywang3403 The dark forest theory has been around for a very long time.
@user-gj7lp5iz6k 5 місяців тому
@@smokbig3202prove it
@manynukes11 5 місяців тому
Survival is the most important goal of every civilization Every civilization will continue to expand and grow , but resource in the universe is limited.
@King-mz8xe 5 місяців тому
Ye Wenjie doomed us man 😭
@lencol583 2 роки тому
I’d be really annoyed if our first contact with aliens was them coming to earth as some sort of door to door salesman or trying to recruit us into a pyramid scheme.
@deividboy2347 2 роки тому
XD I would love it if the first contact is like in independence day 2 With that white orb thing Seemed so nice to me
@rackcauser 2 роки тому
They're gonna come here and try to tell you about your satellites extended warranty
@gasterg.continent3118 2 роки тому
“You become you own space capital you only need to give us 200k kg of metal and travel to other planets to recruit them.”
@deividboy2347 2 роки тому
"Humanity can be their own boss with this this two easy apps"
@cyfertea8707 2 роки тому
"Good morning! Have you heard of our lord and savior gheanud?"
@thedeytow8776 2 роки тому
“I can picture in my mind a world without war, a world without hate. And I can picture us attacking that world, because they'd never expect it.” -Jack Handey
@StrokeMyLovePump 2 роки тому
Deep Thoughts.
@WiseOwl_1408 2 роки тому
Violence is a huge part of nature. We can't escape it.
@infinitehonkworks195 2 роки тому
@@WiseOwl_1408 Violence is the eternal answer to "Or else what" If you aren't willing to use it, you're no more than property of the person that will
@msguidedbits9511 2 роки тому
I wouldn’t do that
@FanDidlyTastic 2 роки тому
@Nuup Truth is only the realities we give in to. Violence is only part of our nature so long as we keep giving up, making comments like these. We do things the way we do because those methods are the paths of least resistance. We replace this resistance with technology and tools to ignore them, sometimes forever. Taking violence as a truth may as well be giving up on a goal before you've even started. Absurdly defeatist and pessimistic. It's also in human nature to *grow beyond our base natures.* Did you ever consider that? ;3c
@jmlkinc Місяць тому
'We need to be careful about the type of signal we send out' Ye Wenjie: ....No.
@RonLarhz Місяць тому
she really took the internet anti human rage into RL....💀💀💀
@polydynamix7521 9 місяців тому
The 'first strike' concept only works if you're certain the other species only lives on one planet. Any species capable of waging interstellar war is likely living on several planets, hundreds of giant space stations, and probably some moons too. The first strike wipes out a planet, sure... maybe you hit several- but if you don't get them all then you've made an enemy for the rest of that species' entire existence. Not only that, assume that 10% of the species survived elsewhere, they're going to spread out even more- to minimize the chance of being targeted. Such a tactic would certainly work against humans, we would be wiped out except for a slowly starving ISS, but against another species capable of reaching out across stars, it would be very difficult to execute.
@maclain728 18 днів тому
That’s kinda my thinking. Even if we were to detect radio transmissions from deep space, it would probably be better to wait until humans have colonized Mars and have a significant portion of the species total population in space. If we keep progressing like we are, that’s definitely feasible within the next half millennia
@CasabaHowitzer 8 днів тому
Well, obviously, unless you've found every last alien presence of the civilization you wish to destroy and are very sure of it, it's the better option to remain peaceful. I don't think it would be that difficult to find every alien presence with extremely advanced telescope technology (I'm assuming a civilization advanced enough to retaliate would give off quite obvious signs of its presence). E.g., if you know there's a star somewhere and you know its luminosity, it would be suspicious if your calculated value is different from the empirical value - maybe there's someone there who uses a lot of the sun's energy with a dyson sphere or similar device.
@IronThreads9 6 днів тому
It seems the best way to survive the Dark Forest is to be like ants, dispersed all over the place.
@Wonkabar007 2 роки тому
The hunter takes a deep breath and makes a decision "I shall try and make friends with this Xenomorph"
@williamwalrus9473 2 роки тому
Mankind: “If it exists then I can pet it”
@cassianodesign 2 роки тому
The Xenomorph hugs him back, one day later they have a baby, but the hunter dies during labor XD
@shanagbaimuru3926 2 роки тому
Tbh an amusing end would've been both the hunters getting skewered by a better hidden hunter observing the whole situation
@mikesnapper9001 2 роки тому
"hehe, why is my stomach suddenly tickling?"
@robrobusa 2 роки тому
HERESY
@PossumReviews 2 роки тому
The universe is only about fourteen billion years old, and the star-forming era is expected to last another hundred trillion. The universe is young, so young in fact that the Earth has been around for about a third of the universe's life so far. If you picture the lifespan of the universe's star-forming era as a clock, we popped up in the first second. It may sound unlikely given how big the universe is, but when you take the Great Filters into consideration, we may very well be the first technological civilization in the universe. There may be countless civilizations over the next hundred trillion years, and we will be the "ancient forerunners" to them.
@nakedmario6155 2 роки тому
And then humanity will go into war with an alien species referred to as the Covenant because of the mishaps of the ancient forerunners
@WanderTheNomad 2 роки тому
That's the option that I'm choosing to go with. Obviously we don't know for sure if that is the case, but we should consider the possibility. Assume we are one of the earliest, if not the first, civilization to exist in the universe. What would that entail? To me, it sounds like a lot of responsibility. Like being the eldest child among your siblings.
@jeremyhahn3612 2 роки тому
Doubt in the universe because there's an insanely vast amount of it we're not able to look at, but I still get your point
@ouinova 2 роки тому
Checkmark, I must like. Also good point
@Mostly-Nuts 2 роки тому
@@jeremyhahn3612 not even that. Look at how much we’ve accomplished in so little. Or who’s to even say we accomplished a lot in a little bit of time since it’s relative and we have nothing to base that point on.
@hustle4Abuck2 8 місяців тому
I saw this video about a year ago. I just finished "The Dark Forest" book two of the series. Your visuals nailed that part of the book, so much so I had to come back to see if you referenced the book. I am on book three now. I will commit again when I finish the series
@King-mz8xe 5 місяців тому
Well you finished this series yet and if so, thoughts on the 3rd book?
@Viltris 4 місяці тому
@@King-mz8xe The best of the series. I finished the third book on a plane today. Liu Cixin has always been good about painting vivid imagery with words, and in the third book, he goes all in on describing the bizarre, the horrifying, the grotesque, and the hauntingly beautiful. He also tightens up the story, cutting out the unnecessary plot threads, and develops the ones he leaves behind all the way to their ultimate conclusion. It also has the most speculative ideas, the most imaginitive, the most optimistic, and the most terrifying.
@drew284 4 місяці тому
@@Viltris I thought the 3rd was the worst because of some of the character decisions and humanity's reactions to certain things. Just didn't add up. I still love the series as a whole though. And I thought the first part of book 3 was really good. Wish I had more people to talk about the series with though, it's such an imaginative and thought provoking series. I think my favorite part is the world building of Trisolaris. Just fascinating and I hope the Netflix series does it justice. Dark Forest was my favorite.
@slartybartfast Місяць тому
I'm reading dark forest right now although I've only just started it. I can't wait to see what comes!
@TheJerbol 5 місяців тому
3:30 "They'll want to call out for help, but they won't" "Why not?" "Because of the _implication_ "
@EzequielFigueroa-sw4nb Місяць тому
😂😂
@ghxstboyy6638 Місяць тому
The IASIP reference is top tier
@russiananimatorlol1719 Рік тому
Imagine an alien version of kurzgesagt explaining why humans exist
@aushwada Рік тому
BRO WTF THAT IS ACTUALLY CRAZY. I thought about an alien civilization watching this video after decoding it to see what we think.
@Unlimited_Powah Рік тому
And then they see their climate change videos
@rhuttrho88 Рік тому
I will not imagine that!🤨
@gmillyy5253 Рік тому
Sources reveal they have no real explanation
@thenamesianna Рік тому
We would be aliens to them , so it would still be about alien's existance
@RealTDragon 2 роки тому
Alright Kurzgesagt, when is the RTS game coming out? I see you building a creative asset list.
@anarchy-authoritarianneo-t180 2 роки тому
I couldn't stop thinking about it lol.
@primetime3422 2 роки тому
Wait r u jokin or u r 4 real
@odin2130 2 роки тому
@@primetime3422 Your comment gave me a headache.
@TheEpiknik 2 роки тому
@@odin2130 Genuinely though, are they joking about Kurzgesagt making a game?
@hawkeyy924 2 роки тому
@@TheEpiknik I think they said they plan to make one
@jackcosgrove6351 Місяць тому
We all just finished 3 body problem didn't we
@earth30212 26 днів тому
Sameeee
@DraconisV2 Рік тому
I love that this was tackled in Stellaris! There's a new Origin in the game called Fear of the Dark wherein Venus was totally destroyed by a freak asteroid causing a huge division on Earth on whether the incident is a malicious attack or just a freak accident and is nothing more than mere paranoia. This division led to a lot of people terraforming and colonizing Mars in order to escape Earth because of the belief that somewhere out there, there is someone purposely targeting our home planet in order to destroy it. Ok this next bit is a spoiler so don't continue if you have plans on playing the game with this Origin. Basically, after years of exploration and progress in the game, you'll later find out that in a nearby solar system, an unknown species of alien had built a huge space cannon and was using all their resources in their home system to create huge bullets to attack nearby systems that they had detected that contains life. However, because of the unique gravity of Jupiter on our Sol system that protects us from most asteroids, this huge bullet that was aimed at Earth was actually reorientated by the gravity into destroying Venus instead. By the time that you discover this truth, the alien species that had done the attack are already dead with their home planet barren with life and the space cannon inoperable. It seems that the unknown species was so paranoid that it believed in the idea that any life out there is a threat to their existence which then led to the construction of a space cannon that will guarantee that they will be the one to do the first strike rather than be a victim of one. This paranoia however led to them depleting all the resources in their solar system without even inventing FTL travel which then caused mass extinction of their species, which is fortunate for Earth because it meant that a second strike will never arrive. At this point, the player will have a decision to turn into a Fanatic Purifier since it was proven that aliens in the galaxy are actually willing to exterminate you when given the chance and also a big "I told you so!" from the colonists who fled Earth to Mars. That, or you can stay as a Xenophile and declare that yes, some aliens are bad, but not all of them are out to get you. In the end, you'll get an achievement named "Dark Forest" if you convert into a Fanatic Purifier and eliminate all life in the galaxy, from the most advanced ones, down to the alien species that are still stuck in the stone ages.
@lolawhyte1277 Місяць тому
where do i find this??
@sayounsang 2 роки тому
I was waiting for Kurzgesagt to cover this book. Such a terrifying concept, and yet I can’t stop thinking about it.
@Skemmm 2 роки тому
trisolaris? also *amogus*
@gabrielvicente8406 2 роки тому
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@FckPooTN 2 роки тому
You mean trisolaris?
@matyascerny8461 2 роки тому
Ah yes, another trisolaris enjoyer
@crAzytitAn4741 2 роки тому
I believe the Aliens are so advanced that they might be among us and we'd never know
@insertcoolnamehere8516 2 роки тому
The idea of some alien space council that knows we’re here but is waiting for us to “grow up” is actually really comforting for some reason.
@thewhompingwampa2671 2 роки тому
So, it's basically Mass Effect. Jesus, lets just hope we don't encounter aliens like the Turians or get uplifted prematurely and end up like the Krogan.
@Pazuzu4219 2 роки тому
There's a group of aliens that are actually keeping us from "growing up". There are many different kinds out there and they have fought over control of this planet for millennia.
@garrettcorbett3681 Рік тому
@@thewhompingwampa2671 Lets hope our first encounter isn’t with the Krogan
@VoteOrDie99 Рік тому
Isn't that kind of the back story of earth in star trek?
@rubix4195 Рік тому
@@VoteOrDie99 Not really - only if you think the Federation is a "welcoming space council" but, in reality, the Federation are like aloof and waiting for the moment a civilisation reaches light speed travel just so they can have a chat of joining like when you move into a new house and the first knock on the door is the Jehovah's Witnesses.. Also, not so much if you are in the Klingon or Romulan neck of the woods: one's a warrior race and the other is a manipulative race out for resouces.
@ejabraham10 Місяць тому
The Netflix movie 3 Body Problem brought me back here.
@Niilo2.2 Місяць тому
Hello, I'm alien from another galaxy. I just wantes to say *AMOGUS*
@Angel-tr5ye Місяць тому
@@Niilo2.2GETOUTOFMYHEADGETOUTOFMYHEADGETOUTOFMYHEAD
@rupenupe1 Місяць тому
Same here.
@joseantoniomillabrito2764 Місяць тому
Which 3 body problem movie are you referring to? That doesn't exist. A TV show is another story. I prefer the Chinese one at this point.
@AnotherZenThought 2 роки тому
As Sagan said: “The newest children in a strange and uncertain cosmos should listen quietly for a long time, patiently learning about the universe and comparing notes before shouting into an unknown jungle that we do not understand.”
@crazycatlady183 2 роки тому
❤️👏
@gdvelasquez2570 2 роки тому
Carl Sagan is wise, indeed.
@tomcav860 2 роки тому
your mum is pretty good lookin
@npc5649 2 роки тому
This sounds like a good idea
@AnthanKrufix 2 роки тому
Or in the words of 4Chan.. "Lurk Moar!"
@Ani 2 роки тому
the art style in this video is perhaps my favourite of any kurzgesagt video so far. the way you guys have animated, portrayed, and narrated (!) aliens is stunning and thought provoking - kudos!
@LeventButSpeedrunning 2 роки тому
Hello random verified user
@crocodughetto5613 2 роки тому
I was going to say that
@ninjaclan83 2 роки тому
It reminds me of the Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy book.
@PRINTORO 2 роки тому
YES!
@groggod666 2 роки тому
same
@cowboyjamerson3746 22 дні тому
What scares me is reading about how when native Americans were introduced to Europeans, almost all their population was eradicated. The same thing could happen to us when we come into contact with aliens
@ednguyen3822 11 місяців тому
Three Body Problem novels introduced me to this concept. Great reads!
@tomkandy 2 роки тому
The Killing Star has the best summary of this idea; "We ask that you try just one more thought experiment. Imagine yourself taking a stroll through Manhattan, somewhere north of 68th street, deep inside Central Park, late at night. It would be nice to meet someone friendly, but you know that the park is dangerous at night. That's when the monsters come out. There's always a strong undercurrent of drug dealings, muggings, and occasional homicides. It is not easy to distinguish the good guys from the bad guys. They dress alike, and the weapons are concealed. The only difference is intent, and you can't read minds. Stay in the dark long enough and you may hear an occasional distance shriek or blunder across a body. How do you survive the night? The last thing you want to do is shout, "I'm here!" The next to last thing you want to do is reply to someone who shouts, "I'm a friend!" What you would like to do is find a policeman, or get out of the park. But you don't want to make noise or move towards a light where you might be spotted, and it is difficult to find either a policeman or your way out without making yourself known. Your safest option is to hunker down and wait for daylight, then safely walk out. There are, of course, a few obvious differences between Central Park and the universe. There is no policeman. There is no way out. And the night never ends."
@MPKush 2 роки тому
Your English teacher would be proud.
@Cronos988 2 роки тому
Or you build a very big gun, take over the park with it, and live happily ever after. Not everyone is equal in our dark forrest, and hiding from someone who's already more powerful than you is not going to work.
@anishap2000 2 роки тому
@@Cronos988 Yes, building a big gun really would be one of the ways, but that's a call for war. How do we know how 'big' of a gun is actually big enough? What preparations our opponents have made? Without knowing that, it's still a risk stepping out and making yourself known like that. If we can't know the nature or intent of those on the other side, we also cannot be sure of our chances of survival. True, not everyone is equal and that's for sure, but we haven't heard or found anything from these hunters to determine the ranking of strongest to weakest. We can't know who's more powerful. There could easily be civilizations farther off than us. Hence, the least we can do is not make our presence known so that we can stay safe. Thrive beneath the covers, threat-free until someone finds us. At some point we may have to though. This planet alone doesn't seem sufficient to satiate growing human population and desires.
@smurfyday 2 роки тому
@@Cronos988 Central Park is actually really safe. NYC is much safer than most cities or places in America, esp. the gun-loving ones. It's the homicidal ones that we need to worry about. The ones who think guns solve problems.
@kairos.2381 2 роки тому
@@smurfyday exactoo
@thomaslittlefield923 2 роки тому
I think a language barrier between planets could be even more dangerous than what weapons they could have
@sylvur5441 2 роки тому
vinland saga\american history proves that
@andresramos7965 2 роки тому
This reminds me that in Halo games, the war that aliens start against humanity, which purpose was to exterminate it, started by a misinterpretation and a misunderstanding.
@maksanimates4456 2 роки тому
I feel like we just need to find a direct way of universal kindness. Languages wont help because its something we created, food might not work since wed be dealing an entire different race and dont know how it would affect them.
@sentientmustache8360 2 роки тому
Let’s just pray either we invented universal translation or they have
@4Curses 2 роки тому
@@maksanimates4456 In stargate the highly developed races used a universal language based on atoms. it seems pretty smart, since the elements should be the same, no matter where in the universe.
@Aviation_mad Рік тому
I love your videos because the way you explain the concepts makes it easy for me to understand
@metodejsvoboda6936 Рік тому
I like how you used the same font as the title of the book "The dark forest" (minute 1:27), nice little detail
@TheBadlandsSandvich 2 роки тому
The Dark Forest scenario reminds me of this writing prompt I saw once: "Due to the vast distances between stars, interstellar wars are often a case of who finds the other first. With such long trival times, any sort of retaliation is impossible, and the one who gets first strike always wins. Because of this, most intelligent species try to remain hidden and not give their position away. This is why everyone is so terrified of humanity, who feel the need to loudly broadcast their location."
@counttzt5070 2 роки тому
Do you recall where this is from?
@TheBadlandsSandvich 2 роки тому
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@olnbgy4444 2 роки тому
They’re scared of humanity because humanity is a loud target ? I don’t understand
@stardolphin2 2 роки тому
"This is why everyone is so terrified of humanity, who feel the need to loudly broadcast their location." As if no one else does, just because we haven't seen such signals yet? Assuming there is indeed a danger in doing so, all civilizations may go through a period of 'not yet knowing better.' Your assertion also implies that 'everyone' (especially if they're not also already talking to each other) will respond to awareness of our presence in the same way. Some may reach out if sufficiently gregarious, some may pre-empt, if sufficiently paranoid. Or anything in between. This isn't about what humans do, it's about what enough others may do, to be consistent with the Fermi Paradox.
@vengefulbeauty 2 роки тому
@@olnbgy4444 Like a lion roaring. Think about, if you're in a dark forest and hear a lion roar, are you going towards it or away fast as hell in the opposite direction?
@MatthewPogi-md7oq 2 роки тому
I like to think one day, parents will tell their kids “be careful about what you send out into the universe…you can’t delete it in entirety!”
@thetruereality2 2 роки тому
brilliant
@jasonbaugher2464 2 роки тому
Yeah Huh, Mom! I'll just shoot it into a black hole!
@PluetoeInc. 2 роки тому
@@jasonbaugher2464 yeaahhh lol
@addamriley5452 2 роки тому
Time is non local synchronicity, past, present and future exist at once... everything exists now... nothing can be deleted. Energy cannot be created or destroyed...
@V0rch4 2 роки тому
People are already sending radio signals into space, and it's terrifying
@m.n.7426 9 місяців тому
„We want to know if we are alone in the universe“ speak for your selves, lads! Some of us just want to improve life on our planet for all its inhabitants.
@aleksandaratanasov1885 11 місяців тому
10:22 That's called a pro Wenjie move, and it's a quick way to get your star cursed
@puzzLEGO 2 роки тому
Whenever kurtzgesagt makes a video on aliens, it always blows up lol
@xyvazkrown8048 2 роки тому
Yeah, it's #3 Trending in Gaming
@maxobakso123 2 роки тому
yeah those videos are always their best!
@Puppyfied 2 роки тому
I mean, whenever he makes a video it blows up lol
@thomasmitchell4128 2 роки тому
Of course it does. Because of the Implication.
@rey_nemaattori 2 роки тому
In their defense, whenever we invent new stuff or concepts, our first incline is how to use it as a weapon....
@GarrettWatts 2 роки тому
Really appreciating this new, slightly more laid back narration style.
@triopical6884 2 роки тому
Hey baby boy, can I drink all your UwU warm prorostate milk
@lucasdacosta3835 2 роки тому
It’s been 6 minutes you couldn’t have listened to this video.
@lanimwar 2 роки тому
Ye
@olliec5675 2 роки тому
GARRET!
@olliec5675 2 роки тому
I love you
@Thisisaweirdthing2makeusdo 11 місяців тому
I love the art style of this channel ❤ and the content itself ofc x
@FoxyBoxery Рік тому
To be honest, the safest civilisation we can contact, against most people’s expectations, is not a less advanced than us or as advanced as us, but rather far more advanced than us. So advanced, that they won’t view us as a threat
@Tristyn_Waterman 3 місяці тому
But because of the distances and delay in communication, and the possibility of rapid or explosive technological growth, we still would represent a possible threat to another civilization no matter how much more advanced they are
@user-uv5ld3cx5t 24 дні тому
Just because you aren't a threat doesn't mean you aren't a juicy target or a plaything like a housecat in their view
@KoutetsuSteel 2 роки тому
I mentioned it last time as well, but holy heck do I want to play a simulation/strategy game that has the art/design team from Kurzgesagt. Especially after the strategy game-esque animations we were shown in the middle of the video.
@duzehalo 2 роки тому
I thought the same. Especially some base/city building sim. I'm pre-ordering.
@Hellodinho 2 роки тому
AGREEED
@cats4life161 2 роки тому
I was just about to comment this, every structure looks really interesting and I feel so inspired to play this nonexistant game
@daviddavid-pt7dv 2 роки тому
Yea
@andriytarnevyy8957 2 роки тому
The Battle of Polytopia looks very similar to this 2:39. It's a little strategy game ispired by Civilization series but less deep, I played only a trial and liked It, you can play It on mobile too but it's actualy a good game.
@Scouthedog1 2 роки тому
I feel like the Hunter in the technological forest could spin-off to its own Internet show. I'd watch that
@eat2788 2 роки тому
@@dilkush_21 k i wont
@UltraDripstinctSonGoku 2 роки тому
@@dilkush_21 ok no one cares about your profile anyway
@pustota7254 2 роки тому
@@dilkush_21 ok.
@koboarchives969 2 роки тому
I swear I just skipped the through the video just to see the hunter. Because it was just hq. Really makes me think, they should make a show about this on youtube and rake in the money for Kurzgesagt.
@jamesforster7612 2 роки тому
Samurai Jack is what your're looking for.
@leepope3500 Місяць тому
Watching again from release Of 3 Body Problem on Netflix
@TheShuichi88 Рік тому
this is my favorite Kurzgesagt video, and This honestly seems like one of the more realistic outcomes of the fermi paradox. the main one being that the distances are too great between civilizations and thousands and thousands of years for back and forth communication isn't worth it. so other civilizations don't try.
@trequor 11 місяців тому
The Fermi paradox is hogwash. It's based on literally nothing. It's a mathematical model where all the variables came out of Fermi's ass.
@wandrinsheep 2 місяці тому
When Kurzegast finishes the 3 body problem trilogy and decides to make a video
@k1n6n07h1n6 2 роки тому
"Two possibilities exist: either we are alone in the Universe or we are not. Both are equally terrifying." -Arthur C. Clarke
@jrag1000 2 роки тому
yeah, we've heard that before. It's no more profound quoting it...
@Idonai 2 роки тому
Cool quote
@xavierc12343 2 роки тому
I think it would be more terrifying if we were alone in the universe, because it would pretty much confirm that there is some kind of meaning behind this, and that there is a god that created us and only us for whatever reason. It’s just scary for me. I’d prefer it if we weren’t “special”.
@michaelhenry3234 2 роки тому
@@xavierc12343 Literally the complete opposite for me. The amount of comfort I'd feel if there was a purpose to us would be incredible. If it's only us in the universe, though, my first thought is that means we're screwed. We'd be an exception, and those tend not to last long.
@jkobee 2 роки тому
@@xavierc12343 I think alone or not, there sure is a cause before the effect (a cause before the Big Bang, if you would). In Allan Kardec's book "The Spirits Book", there is a part in which he explores the need for a cause before anything ever existed, and this "cause" would be God, whatever name you wanna call. It's pretty intriguing and fascinanting tbh.
@nikos3706 2 роки тому
Let me add a bit more to the existential dread: the 2 hunters stepping out in the clearing are making themselves vulnerable to another hunter who is still hidden and really considers taking both out as quickly as possible.
@Tjalve70 2 роки тому
True. But at the same time, they are making themselves stronger. Because together, it will be more difficult for a third hunter to kill them both. So this is a short period of calculated risk and temporary vulnerability, that will hopefully pay off with prolonged and possibly permanent increased strength and survivability.
@alkasaket379 2 роки тому
@@Tjalve70 I hope that's true. But, if the third hunter possibly takes us out with the other one, their location is given away, and a fourth hunter wipes the third one out as well.
@purpleemerald5299 2 роки тому
@@Tjalve70 Another terrifying prospect: the two of them are already surrounded by a whole tribe of different hunters who have all gone through this same process long ago, and are contemplating whether to assimilate potential allies or annihilate potential enemies. No matter what we do, our lives hinge on their judgement.
@aeaeeaoiauea 2 роки тому
The 2 hunters see each other, and they act like they don't, then for 2 years they just spy on each other not knowing what to do, then a third hunter just kills them
@alcambio8923 2 роки тому
The analogy with hunting is ridiculous.
@diosnelfrica590 Місяць тому
Now I realized this is a reference to the 3 body problem. What at a good series of books and a very good show
@chilidog2469 8 місяців тому
I want to believe that if there IS something out there, they too have reached the point where they’re over fighting. Because logically up until you’re at a certain point on the tech tree you have to fight, but past that point it’s not really worth it
@jackoface710 2 роки тому
I remember a short horror story I read from somebody else. Humanity has finally made contact with another intelligible species. The first message we receive back from them is: "Cease all communications; they will hear us."
@15gamershaven89 2 роки тому
Except the other aliens would just let us die before they reveal themselves
@guiii0696 2 роки тому
that sent a shiver down my spine
@thephoenix134 2 роки тому
It all stems from the novel series starting with "The 3 body problem"
@zissou2265 2 роки тому
What is it called?
@fakuri913 2 роки тому
the first message probably: What are guys gliberring about? we don't understand (in alien language)
@ClandestineSnowman 2 роки тому
This sort of reminds me of war stories I've heard where enemy soldiers will encounter each other in a one-on-one situation. Both don't really want to kill the other, but there's always a chance that the second you walk by each other the other will shoot you in the back - and it becomes an unfortunate "better safe than sorry" situation.
@maccaronich 2 роки тому
I was playing escape from tarkov today. Another PMC killed the scav outside the room I was hiding in. I called out and asked if it was safe, he called back and said he'd cleared it for me. I came out of the room and thanked him, he executed me point blank in the back of the head the second i turned my back
@HuntingTarg 2 роки тому
@@maccaronich Don't forget what the word 'Alien' means; How 'other' is the other? @IssacArthur has a whole series on Fermi Paradox solutions and various possible alien mindsets.
@BigOlRub 2 роки тому
@@maccaronich lol. You hid while he risked his life in the fight. I would have done what he did.
@jayeisenhardt1337 2 роки тому
It's Christmas time and then ya get reminded of Christmas war stories where people pause and stop for a moment to exchange smokes, coffee and sing. lol People are crazy but it's even more dangerous to let them think for themselves and not kill each other according to most.
@cynicalchef2042 2 роки тому
@@maccaronich I play with squads and the smaller groups or soloes are usually more scared to pull a trigger. It's not much that they can do to outplay since inertia is added. I had a streamer friend kidnapped a hatchling threatening him to follow him on twitch or else he dies lmao. Voip is fun.
@prakharsrivastava9568 11 місяців тому
Dark forest and Death's End by Liu Cixin cover this topic in fantastic detail, truly widening the scope of this concept. Must read!
@levendil14 Рік тому
Best strategy is to be quiet and search out and if we find others, investigate and approach cautiously. If we identify like minded creates and form alliances it will defend us against those who are going to do us harm.
@brandonselitetv1436 8 місяців тому
So basically do what the Spanish did when conquering the Americas. Form alliance with certain tribes and used that alliance expand our Influence in the galaxy
@Toonrick12 5 місяців тому
@@brandonselitetv1436That and accidental germ warfare.
@revolutionariesoffreedom2374 2 місяці тому
@@brandonselitetv1436not really Btw the Spanish empire was defeated by the US Republic so shush 🤫 He says : ally yourself with pro democracy but in the alien world… to fight against invasive totalitarian alien empires. Simple as that
@Goat-on-a-Stick 2 роки тому
Something tells me that if they were dangerous enough to pose a threat, they'd probably know about us first.
@denisdenak 2 роки тому
Maybe they do
@bosha6654 2 роки тому
well really any space capable civilisation would be a threat to pretty much every other space capable civilisation because of the big rock technique (tm)
@Needkey. 2 роки тому
And if they were a threat we'd already be dead. They are already here in any case, as Earth is one big Zoo, and we, the exhibits.
@alexanfung 2 роки тому
yes, so in contrary, if their (our) weapons are not advance enough, do not detect others as the detection may trigger their technological explosion
@froggy3047 2 роки тому
No they can't the universe is too big if they knew they needs to be really close to use probably 1 light years away...
@Rekken200 2 роки тому
Yeah I think I’ll watch this at 4am before going to sleep
@SomeRandomUserrr1r23. 2 роки тому
L
@FnLl523 2 роки тому
Yeah lets all take a break from vtubers for once
@ricoparadiso 2 роки тому
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@Nick-dx2pt 2 роки тому
@@ricoparadiso bot
@QE369 Рік тому
Dark Forrest is from Liu Cixin "Three Body Problem" Trilogy
@tigerji Рік тому
Drive scorpion jacket at 9:21 is fire
@maro 2 роки тому
it's kinda sad that none of us will be alive to witness any of this but it's still comforting to know that one day space exploration is possible and humanity will reach very far into space
@tourguideofthemultiversesp739 2 роки тому
Anti-aging can make it so we DO witness it.
@123misou 2 роки тому
@@tourguideofthemultiversesp739 Yes.. Anti aging.. You know.. That utterly common thing that we as humans have totally figured out how to do by now..
@tourguideofthemultiversesp739 2 роки тому
@@123misou VERY close to figuring out, just not there yet.
@puddend6912 2 роки тому
one day.
@123misou 2 роки тому
@@tourguideofthemultiversesp739 Dude, we still can't even completely prevent covid and people are dying from it, let's not even mention cancer.. And here you are talking about being close to curing death itself
@pranavrumala 2 роки тому
This channel's production quality is so high, it's suspicious one might even say it's *out of this world* is Kurzgeagt secretly a team of aliens trying to stop the humans from finding out
@vigilantcosmicpenguin8721 2 роки тому
Yes. You know how they always have pictures of birds? Yeah, that's actually what they look like in real life.
@skydenandardenschedules368 2 роки тому
Bruh
@53Aquilae 2 роки тому
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@electronx5594 2 роки тому
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@EpsteinsRope 2 роки тому
One thing is certain, Kurzgeagt is definitely a team of people. Certainly not just 1 person
@mykelpoole4201 9 місяців тому
Great artwork 👌
@Jim54_ Рік тому
I wonder if you could use the clockwork radio principle to power a probe that won’t be needed to be activated for decades, or possibly even longer. Like a probe sent to Alpha Centauri perhaps, with Solar Radiometers on the probe to both activate the probe as it nears the Solar system its aimed towards, and recharge the clockwork mechanism like a giant self rewinding watch that never stops running. The electronics would have to be powered like a clockwork radio, negating the need for batteries or Nuclear power, which will degrade over extremely long periods. This is the issue with the voyager probes as they age, despite the fact that the electronics and computers within the probe are functioning perfectly after nearly half a century of constant use. The probe would have to be large and capable of making independent decisions, which may require a large amount of older hardier computer chips You could even go a step further, and have small landers on the larger probe that could be fired and directed towards other planets. They could be hardy probes, with a self contained non rechargeable clockwork power source of their own. Preferably a hardy probe to gather planetary data quickly, similar to the Venetian and Titan probes of the past. The only issue would be having a secondary rechargeable clockwork mechanism to power the transmitter, which would have to be very powerful for the extremely long distances to earth. Storage of information until broadcast would be vital. If Spacex can reduce the cost of launches further, perhaps we could have a mother ship probe that could launch smaller satellites like a Clockwork Cassinis, to examine planetary systems and their moons, as well as launch the aforementioned smaller probes This is a bit long winded and hypothetical but its worth thinking about…
@aprilraine8889 2 роки тому
“We need to be thoughtful about what signals we send out to the universe” We’ve handled *Twitter* just fine I’m sure we aren’t gonna mess this up.
@itisALWAYSR.A. 2 роки тому
by talos this can't be happening
@MrMegaMetroid 2 роки тому
We are quite literally not handling twitter very well. Social media and its algorythms are currently the most dangerous and impactfull tool on politics and information exchange. Twitter and co where what gave the us donald trump
@lucifurious1976 2 роки тому
@@MrMegaMetroid Sarcasm
@Webexplr 2 роки тому
We invented Discord and Reddit to spread peace
@ArawnOfAnnwn 2 роки тому
@@MrMegaMetroid Lol Twitter didn't give us Donald Trump, most of Twitter hates Trump. You're assuming Trump only had appeal because of Twitter - that he doesn't connect to real life people. If anything, Twitter swings the other way. Bad example. Also why do you people insist on politicizing everything? And why does the whole human species get reduced to a sideshow compared to the vagaries of American politics? You know there's a world outside America, right? Ironically, this tendency of Americans, even among those who hate Trump, to make everything about themselves is more Trumpian than anything else.
@navjitgill5554 2 роки тому
We don't even treat each other right, imagine how we'd treat a different civilization
@VegasRT500 2 роки тому
The Qanon Republicans would start a war with them there is no doubt about it.
@elrancho8700 2 роки тому
And the Liberals would dumbfound them by saying we have over 60 genders
@lamalien2276 2 роки тому
@@VegasRT500 Don't scoff, we're living through an event like that right now with China. They grew and grew and grew, and now we see their true intentions.
@marchforjune 2 роки тому
Bold of you to assume we would have the upper hand.
@chadphelps5809 2 роки тому
It would be a great unification for earth
@redwolf6334 8 місяців тому
The visuals in this video and story would make such a cool movie or show
@ailius8622 2 роки тому
The production value on this video was absolutely amazing. Well done to everyone on the team at Kurzegesagt, be proud of yourselves.
@jlwilder8436 2 роки тому
They know/they are. 😏 😉
@LoneWanderer727 11 місяців тому
I like to think of the theory where there is a greater network of civilizations out there communicating, maybe traveling, in a way beyond what we can understand now. And they are waiting for us to figure out how to join in on our own. Some day we might make contact and find a galaxy, a universe of creatures and civilizations. It's a lot better to think about than a vast and empty space that we may never traverse. Even it seems unrealistic or unfathomable... humanity has done amazing things, and we have always pushed the boundaries of our knowledge. There's always the possibility we haven't unlocked the key to understanding more. And considering all that we've done and learned in what honestly seems like a relatively short time....i think theres still so much more that we can discover. And perhaps some 'people' out there waiting for us to do so!
@jujuoof174 2 місяці тому
One of my favourites of yours!!
@TravelersWarden 2 роки тому
The Dark Forest is honestly one of the few things that deeply and truly terrify me. I was introduced to the concept through Cixin Liu's Dark Forest trilogy and it's haunted me ever since.
@pepsiatlas5452 2 роки тому
if it makes you feel better any detectable civilization is only going to have a tiny fraction of its population actually living on planets. space stations are just so much more practical. if aliens decided to destroy earth they wouldn't really achieve anything other than pissing off the entire human race
@mausunk 2 роки тому
I think I take a sort of comfort at that idea of being wiped out within a second before really being even able to know it lmao, and otherwise, life goes on yay!
@olsenfernandes3634 2 роки тому
"If you want Peace, prepare for War" Makes perfect sense in this context.
@darken2417 2 роки тому
And that's why we should wipe out the Xenos and not try to set up some cringe galactic united nations.
@vincentmuyo 2 роки тому
No need to worry, if it was an issue we'd probably already be dead, because it's pretty simple to prepare a kill strike for every solar system in the galaxy. :)
@undead890 2 роки тому
This reminds me of The First Contact War in the Mass Effect series. Effectively, Humans began colonizing other planets around the galaxy until the Turians found them and attacked them on site, simply because the humans activated a Mass Relay they weren't supposed to activate. This escalated into full on war until the Citadel Council negotiated a peace treaty between the Turians and Humans a couple months later. It was all down to a misunderstanding. The Turians were just doing their jobs of acting as the police and enforcing Council laws, but the Humans, who at this time didn't even know the Council existed, thought that this alien species meant to wipe them out.
@SikGamer70 2 роки тому
I'm surprised you didn't mention the Reapers, they're essentially the Dark Forest's apex predator, regularly scouring the entire forest and assimilating every hunter they find before they grow too powerful.
@mattstorm360 2 роки тому
@@SikGamer70 There is also the brethern moons from Dead Space. Humanity expands outward and finds hundreds of 'dead' planets rich in resources but lacking life. Reason why is because the planets had life eaten off of it or converted into a new brethern moon. Humans have just been finding the remains.
@levi2725 2 роки тому
What I find interesting about the Turians and Humans is that they became very close allies once the war settled. IIRC they're the closest allies among the council.
@Prometheus19853 2 роки тому
@@levi2725 Sometimes you just have to beat the shit out of each other to eventually become best friends.
@stiffyo6068 2 роки тому
@@Prometheus19853 Just like men. Punch each other, followed up by a hand shake
@user-iq6cc3df3l 8 місяців тому
Nice channel. It’s similar to I think Infographics - I think it’s its name - but the graphics here are a bit better. And I like this narrator a bit better too. Both channels are entertaining though so I added myself to this one.
@AndrewWang. 5 місяців тому
I don't really like Infographics anymore, its quantity now, not quality.
@dyllski 8 місяців тому
bro they need to make a universe civilization game with art this good. i would totally buy
@TimeBucks 2 роки тому
this channel makes learning fun
@catlord69 2 роки тому
i dont think you learnt anything useful for life
@m_winewood 2 роки тому
@@catlord69 this stuff is still so interesting that it motivates me to live harder
@limp-orange 2 роки тому
@@catlord69 typical of someone with limited brain function to say something like that
@catlord69 2 роки тому
@@limp-orange I just didnt once in my life heard anything about these things in any school I attended. Nothing here is learning just interesting factography you will once use in a quiz game. Maybe you would understand my point if you didnt limit your huge brain for searching useless insults for someone on the internet you have no clue about
@limp-orange 2 роки тому
@@catlord69 English is not your first language and it shows
@comanche1924 2 роки тому
The animation just keeps growing more and more engrossing as time goes by. The narrative is great as well, as usual, and I like the return to these speculative stories, but I think the visual aspect really deserves special praise in this case
@exoels 2 роки тому
No shit
@Skemmm 2 роки тому
I'm taking the first spot here. Don't know what to say
@omariond5269 2 роки тому
I’m taking the second spot here. Don’t know what to say
@mortalkomment8028 2 роки тому
@@Skemmm I'm taking the third spot here. The dude above doesn't count. Those graphics are crazy.
@Skemmm 2 роки тому
@@mortalkomment8028I'm taking the fourth spot here once again. Are you sure that dude doesn't count?
@uwuwuewuewueunjetjemuwueub2385 8 місяців тому
What if these advanced civilisations communicate through intergalactic trading routes, with multiple fleets scattered on their routes like an action potential in an axon in the nervous system
@coachcherokee1488 Місяць тому
This is easily my favorite of the Fermi paradox quodrology, But it is also the scariest 😬
@mechashark5203 2 роки тому
the art is SO GOOD in this episode. the topic, the visuals, and the ending makes this one of my fav kurzgesagt videos of all time. edit: kinda random but i just realised that the human hunter has some kind of prosthetic leg
@aryangupta6186 2 роки тому
truly remarkable
@aleclang9735 2 роки тому
dude agreed so hard
@Da_Dev 2 роки тому
Ikr
@schwag 2 роки тому
No one asked
@Keyzy 2 роки тому
Dont forget the music 🎶 The scoring here is incredible
@CGKey 2 роки тому
The fact that Kurzgesagt managed to emulate their 2D style through shaders in 3D is absolutely amazing, well done guys!
@Chadgigington 2 роки тому
They pay a guy on fiverr
@MewPurPur 2 роки тому
@@Chadgigington Nah, they are a team of 40 people.
@shivam7156 2 роки тому
Dammmmmmmmmmmm i didn't even noticed!!! That was smooth af
@elko1860 2 роки тому
Honest question. Can we really call something displayed in a 2D plane a 3D animation? I understand that for practical purposes, we consider it to be 3D as it “appears” that way. But in reality it is 2D as it appears on our phones, laptops, etc. It’s just our semantical way of framing it, right?
@MewPurPur 2 роки тому
@@elko1860 The computer does 3D calculations for 3D, even though you can only see it from one direction at a time.
@lluissantamarta7774 Місяць тому
Who came here after watching the 3 Body Problem?
@thedeepesthat4029 Рік тому
The likely reason that we have not encountered alien life, is that beings like ourselves (which i think are likely to be throughout the universe) create new dimensions / universes to pass into before they try to move across open space. Look at a chestnut tree. The chestnuts are far away from each other, for the chestnuts to turn into new trees, they do not need to make contact with eachother, and infact being far apart ensures more space for the chestnuts to drop in fertile ground and therefore aid the multiplication of the tree. If the universe is an evolved structure (Which I think to be highly likely), then it would be advantageous for life to be far apart, so that we do not war with each other and more rapidly create a new realm of information / universes. And so the Universe therefore multiplys. The earth is essentially an egg, and its been fertilesed by life. That life will then create new universes.
@johnappleseed9290 Рік тому
I like your way of thinking and it makes sense.. BUT.. my only argument here is that we as humans have only evolved to create technology to aid us in our day to day living here on earth. We’ve created impressive rockets and satellites in order for us to see what is out there in our universe, we are no where near at the level to create any significant difference in chancing our dimension/universal timeline as we go on as a species. I like to look at our evolvement through the Kardashev scale. We aren’t even at type 1, we are sitting between 0.6-0.7 type civilization. In order to make any difference in our way of existence and timeline we would need an enormous amount of energy at a galactic level, that I can see how we can potentially open up new barriers through space and time, by that rate (if humanity is still around) we would be traversing at the speed of light. We haven’t truly even mastered the power of the atom or even left our solar system. We are eons away before we can make an impact at a universal scale.. and most scientist believe humanity will never get to that point due to our Neanderthalish brain still highly active. AI may possibly take over one day and real humans may become a form of Bio-Organic substance that wonder the earth..
@thedeepesthat4029 Рік тому
@@johnappleseed9290 We can already create quite realistic alternative realities using our basic computer technology. Once we have quantum computing, we will simply be able to run algorithms in power physics systems and they will just create universes, or maybe it will be AI that will do this for us. We can tell from how the universe grew, that it came from a simple state, and that is how we would create a universe, from a single algorythmic origin, and let it expand within a program. The way we make computer games now, it would be impossible to create a new universe, it would be far to much work. The universe we live in shows us jow it is to be done, and we will replicate that. Inevitably at some point.
@envar1 2 роки тому
When it comes to finding extraterrestrial intelligent civilizations, we just really got to hope that we are more advanced, or that the other life is docile or peaceful.
@hagron5702 2 роки тому
What if they are more advanced and more peaceful than us? They could teach us things.
@teafool753 2 роки тому
@@hagron5702 well that'd be a good situation
@eyrthren 2 роки тому
@@teafool753 I’d say that’s the best case scenario, we’d see massive technological leaps with a benevolent teachers to guide us
@jatinbangar4371 2 роки тому
They'll look at us the way we look at ants. If they find us, that means the are far more advanced and annihilate us
@lrock48 2 роки тому
@@hagron5702 They probably wouldn't want to associate with us, just tap into our network and go through our history, they'll probably set up a blockade and ground us from leaving Earth atmosphere.
@MrDarkanLTU 2 роки тому
this video feels alot smoother with these 3d animations,really loving the hard work you guys put in these videos. Hope you will never stop making informational videos because i will not stop watching them, Cheers!
@BossBunnyCom 2 роки тому
*That's because it's vector art, no pixels AT ALL!*
@raerambaran 2 роки тому
Yes very informative
@ChodaExploda 2 роки тому
This stuff is based on mostly what ifs and assumptions. .. They literally made a whole story up... The creators of these videos continuously say "we don't know sh*t" ....indirectly...
@rudrayanpramanick2342 2 роки тому
@@ChodaExploda Nobody knows exactly about these topics bro. This is the reason curiosity and imagination have such a big role to play in such topics.
@jennifervan75 2 роки тому
I thought it was 2d
@segus-coffecup 11 місяців тому
한국어 채널로만 봤는데 여기서 한국 자막을 킬수가 있네요? 공룡님 땡큐~
@historicallegends3702 2 місяці тому
Learn English
@user-zd2yf3tz7c 11 місяців тому
정공룡의 추천을 받고 달려옴 공룡님은 이런 거 어케 찾으셨다냐
@HopCatSmash 2 роки тому
This has to be my favourite one of your videos! Existential and unimaginable questions put in perspective with beautiful analogies and animation. Thank you!
@fernandocortez1783 2 роки тому
What the hell. But yeah true
@legendofman12 2 роки тому
Same, but not like we could dislike it anyway
@saltytea7367 2 роки тому
Lol didn't expect to see you here
@JDGage 2 роки тому
Bottom line is we're pretending we would be the peaceful ones. Can you imagine Biden being in charge of meeting alien life?
@vaioskoutis7998 2 роки тому
@@JDGage he can’t even stand up straight
@emi_marsilli9670 Рік тому
“Maybe the only way out of the dark forest is to step into the clearing, together” one of my favorites quotes from this channel. ❤️
@jeneeberry2157 Рік тому
Or let's chop it all down, we are rlly good at deforestation (joke)
@TheSuperdarklord100 Рік тому
inb4 we do that and some other race spots us both and eliminates us both
@bastienpetit5161 Рік тому
famous last words
@hugegamer5988 Рік тому
It’s too late, we blew the horn. By many many orders of magnitude larger than any purposeful broadcast in human history we have already signaled aliens. It’s the EMP from nuclear detonations, converting a bit of mass to an insane amount of energy in a infinitesimal amount of time , a significant portion of which is electromagnetic radiation. If aliens are listening they didn’t hear our news broadcasts, tv shows, or purposeful signals because the noise of nuclear bombs is far beyond a quadrillion times more powerful.
@tjw2469 Рік тому
They say this in the video just to please the audience. Use logic and think what the worst consequences would be and whether our civilization can afford such consequences.
@k1b04ALL Місяць тому
Back after binging on 3 Body Problem ☀️☀️☀️
@David-iv6je Місяць тому
Gah read the books first. Doesn't this always go without saying? 95% of the time the book is better than the movie/show.
@k1b04ALL Місяць тому
@@David-iv6je who said I didn’t? :)
@maisou3628 9 місяців тому
I'm back here after watching Oppenheimer. The ideology of the movie about escalation and wether or not the ennemy will attack you made me think about this video.
@pixelcrunch300 2 роки тому
Besides the existential questions proposed in the vid, can we all agree that this is Kurzgesagt's best-animated video yet?
@baguettedepain3975 2 роки тому
Yeah it's pretty amazing.
@rosieboomer2910 2 роки тому
Hehe someone's porgie has a 🥖
@pixelcrunch300 2 роки тому
@@rosieboomer2910 What?
@slimes3120 2 роки тому
@@pixelcrunch300 they mean lorsque l'intrus commet des actes malveillants
@dasmilyshelf6999 2 роки тому
But there were no burning birds…
@AlphaSteboh 2 роки тому
I hope someone is making a collection of all of the lil' aliens that they make on Kurzgesagt, because I love all of them and would love to see more of them ALL the time.
@javajeff714 2 роки тому
Agreed!
@acookie7548 2 роки тому
there is now a demand for kurzgesagt compilation videos
@jaypolas4136 2 роки тому
Yej
@FRED.shorts 2 роки тому
NFT Idea 😄👍🏻
@joylynbateman4015 27 днів тому
In Liu Cixin’s book series in my opinion he provides a nice take on the Fermi paradox. In his book it talks about that yes the universe is teeming with life, but as civilizations grow and resources in the universe become limited, advanced civilizations will seek to destroy others. This sets a narrative for humans and the Trisolarans that staying quiet is best way to avoid extinction from another race that is purposefully looking for you.
@moonspots01 11 місяців тому
Intelligent life is so rare and the distances so great that it is no surprise we haven't heard anything yet.
@randaranatunga7259 2 роки тому
I have to say, the use of the hunter and the fight for survival being used as a vehicle to drive the narrative is very well thought out. Makes it that much more interesting to listen to.
@Budymierdas 2 роки тому
It's not a new idea tho. Pretty sure they got it from the Central Park allegory from that one 4chan post from several years ago
@randaranatunga7259 2 роки тому
@@Budymierdas oh I didn’t know that. Either way it’s really interesting and I’m probably gonna read into it, Thanks for the info :)
@BADAB0O0O0O0O0M 2 роки тому
it;s actually from the book theu got the idead from. the book is called the dark forest
@demonthegamer3624 9 місяців тому
We need a game about this type of premise
@Nycta_Gaming 11 місяців тому
4:02 I got a ad at the perfect time when the arrow hit the screen 💀
@mandy2917 2 роки тому
I'm absolutely obsessed with this video and the idea it presents. I've seen all the other Fermi Paradox videos your team has made, but this one is the best in my personal opinion. It presents such a dark, grim, but possibly extremely realistic purview of what the universe might actually be like.
@deryoad 2 роки тому
You should read the trilogy from Cixin Liu! First book is called the three body problem, second is “the dark forest” - so you can imagine it’s dead on the subject :)
@zzajizz 2 роки тому
@@deryoad reading the trilogy filled me with existential dread. It was so exhilarating yet depressing at the same time.
@feodaron89 2 роки тому
there is another possibility...life on other planets and their "technologies" may be just incomprehensible for us. Take for example some kind of zerg from Starcraft, who literally grow their ships from biomass and communicate using psionics. We cannot communicate with such aliens. We will not be able to detect such aliens (they do not use radio waves). Our technologies are simply incompatible. And this is a very ... mundane example, because they can be much more bizarre. And they may not necessarily be a carbon-based life form like us. They could be silicon life form for example. Their physiology will be fundamentally different from ours.
@The_Blue_Otaku 2 роки тому
Imagine earth finally getting a message from space, and after decoding it, the message says "new phone who dis"
@Saplingbat 2 роки тому
Any civilization that makes it to an interstellar level will need to have a lot higher regard for sentient life forms than we do. Otherwise, like us, they'll end up offing themselves long before they get to the point where they can effectively travel the stars.
@sorrellion1414 2 роки тому
Everyone's talking about the conjecture and how scary it is (valid), but can we talk about how fantastic this episode looks? The portions within the metaphorical 'dark forest' with the hunter are genuine works of art
@treeboy6287 Рік тому
Based on Cixin Liu novels The dark forest, three body problem
@queeny5613 Рік тому
Yeah
@muriloams Рік тому
Did you get the reference to the film Driver?
@corvespid4925 Рік тому
I thought the same. Absolutely stylish.
@insengmorugetda 11 місяців тому
공룡 형 다크 포레스트 뭔가 의미가 있었던거구나 이런 것 까지 찾아보고 큐튜버에서 많이 발전했어
@toxymoon92 11 місяців тому
ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
@historicallegends3702 2 місяці тому
I didn't understood what you said but I agree with you
@Habenaria_radiata 2 місяці тому
@@historicallegends3702 Several Korean UKpostsrs made a video series named "Dark Forest" using Minecraft, and among those who participated in it, a UKpostsr named '공룡' recommended this video to introduce the Dark Forest theory to his viewers.
@naviator378 5 місяців тому
Imagine you're an alien in space and you suddenly hear a random ass song that starts with "Never Gonna Give you up"
@raghav6271 2 роки тому
I always feel like that this kind of animation should be use in online teaching or E-Learning.I mean just look at this artistic style its would be very hard to distract yourself from these while studying
@hackedtechnothief 2 роки тому
definitively. schools should learn a lot from content like this and adapt.
@Shimo_28 2 роки тому
@@hackedtechnothief I wish so much
@classypharaoh1584 2 роки тому
Schools often use kurzgesagt in classes. (Currently in high school) (AUSTRALIA)
@Shimo_28 2 роки тому
@@classypharaoh1584 the only problem I have with schools overhere in (Slovakia) is that 40-60% we learn is useless bullcrap that I won't never need in my entire life. It is a bit better in high school but I still must learn some of the useless stuff that I don't care about
@hackedtechnothief 2 роки тому
@@Shimo_28 I'm in the caribbeans and It's the same if not worst, theres a lot of decay education that is really slow on updating to modern times (on purpose as always)
@UselessDuckCompany 2 роки тому
well that's my anxiety quota for the day
@fefek1 2 роки тому
Oh no, a verified person has arrived. Welp give or take 15 minutes and they'll have 4k likes for absolutely nothing.
@tntproductions1996 2 роки тому
That’s cool and all but who tf asked
@donquixoteupinhere 2 роки тому
@@fefek1 🤣
@38dedo Місяць тому
damn, this channel's art has turned from dull alegria into nonstop eyecandy.
@KrytenKoro 9 місяців тому
The first-strike advantage being discussed relies on some assumptions that are not unquestionable. Firstly, it requires that there be essentially no way to deal with a relativistic kill vehicle once it's spotted. It would definitely require having defenses prepped before hand, but if a civilization can figure out the technology to manuever out-of-the-way or develop some sort of interplanetary shield to absorb the hit, then all you've accomplished is giving your hostile intentions away and opening yourself up to reprisals. It's just m.a.d. in space. The second part is that even if there's no way to physically defend against it, it's not impossible to calculate where the attack came from, so you could just give your attacker the middle finger by broadcasting their location to the Galaxy. Even if you can't survive, you can take them down with you. Finally, the Moses option always exists. Unless they can absolutely confirm that the Target civilization has not made it off their planet, they can't guarantee but there won't be survivors who will seek revenge. There's a reason so many surviving species are aggressively expansionist. There's also the obvious ethical quantities with genociding and entire intelligence species just based on the paranoia that they could intend you harm. There's not a good reason why you wouldn't just apply that same paranoia to your fellow human, which is why the dark forest paradigm only really seems plausible to the sort of mind that solves problems by shooting them rather than thinking them out - not unlike the human rulers who choose to threaten atomic weapons as their first option. It's an approach that makes for a good thriller, but it's not really rational as a real life strategy.
@JBUG 2 роки тому
Ah hell yeah, thanks for covering this. A great mix of philosophy and astronomy
@A_87mine 2 роки тому
Hello Mr verified
@outsider357 2 роки тому
c h e c k m a r k
@infernogear571 2 роки тому
Agreed man
@DagreenApple 2 роки тому
Look at those fellow verified cheakmark
@Hey-cj9nl 2 роки тому
Never expected to see you here
@dzstoyanov 2 роки тому
My logical counter to the dark forest theory after years of thinking is this: - The theory limits living organisms to single planetary civilizations, if you fire first against a multi planetary or nomadic space faring civilization, you’ve made a certain enemy and have not wiped out the civilization. - It assumes imperfect knowledge of the universe. If a civilization has progressed to a state where they have near perfect information about all planets and solar systems in most galaxies, then effectively only primitive civilizations would be operating in a dark forest. A dark forest civilization who has developed effective galaxy wide weapons must consider the logical consequences of “what if there’s someone else watching me”. Using such weapons against another civilization could potentially trigger unknown consequences from 3rd party observers. And thus based on these reasonings, I’m able to sleep well at night.
@thalesv5973 2 роки тому
You don't fire from home. You have kill stations spreaded out through interstellar space to shoot down the dangerous civs. Multiplanetary and nomadic civs would know to stay silent in this dangerous galaxy already. And civilizations don't advance to a level of perfect information simply because it considers the galaxy is damn huge and you can't go faster than the speed of light. It's more of a realistic-pessimistic scenario so it considers possible weapons like throwing mass at relativistic speeds at planets or even a star to wipe out the whole star system. You should sleep well at night just because it's damn unlikely anyone actually willing to exterminate us would identify a living and developing species in the solar system from our broken down radio waves and almost non existent space structures.
@TheAtmosfear7 2 роки тому
Good observation, one would think there is always a bigger civilisation that keeps the others in check, willingly or not keeping up the status quo. However, who keeps that supreme civilisation in check ?
@ApisIniustus 2 роки тому
The problem is that if FTL is indeed a hard limit of the universe, then near perfect information is impossible. A super civilization that detects intelligent life 500 light years away has information that is 500 years outdated. Think about how much technological advancement can occur in that time. Imagine there is a super civilization 100 light years away from Earth. The first radio broadcast that humanity made was in 1920, so they would only about now be capable of detecting it. If they were to immediately send RKVs to every planet in our solar system, they wouldn't get here until well into the 2120's at best, which may be right around the time we might be capable of colonizing those other bodies in our system. And that's for something that's relatively "close". For further civilizations seeing a primitive radio broadcast could indicate that there already exists an advanced civilization there. If you delay until you see clear evidence of malicious behavior, it's already too late to respond to it because *they might have already detected you, and there may already be RKVs headed your way*
@dmfaccount1272 2 роки тому
Why is some sort of shielding system for planets not possible? We are like caveman thinking "future man can't stop me if I throw spear at him" while he could be wearing full plate armour.
@fatcat1250 2 роки тому
@@dmfaccount1272 It's way harder to make a magic shield compared to nukes. It's the same reason battleships got phased out in favor of missiles and jets.
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