Interview on how to become HELICOPTER PILOT? Captain Joe and ADAC

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Captain Joe

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00:00 Introduction
01:03 Brief intro about yourself
01:26 What made you want to become a helicopter pilot
02:00 When was your first flight in a helicotper?
02:18 Where did you start your training?
02:51 What was your military training catered to?
03:19 What was the first helicopter you flew?
03:59 Where did you gain your flight hours?
04:42 Where do you sit as a copilot?
05:16 Which typeratings do you have?
05:50 What further qualifications do you have?
06:18 What does your day look like?
06:57 In what type of weather can you operate your helicopter?
07:35 Is it a single pilot operation?
08:31 Can you land anywhere where you want?
09:33 Can you land in someones garden?
09:58 What was your most interesting landing spot?
10:41 What are the dangers of landing on a highway?
11:27 How large is your operational area?
11:49 How quick is your response time?
12:40 How do you establish communication with ground crews?
13:27 Are there helpful hand signals by first responders?
14:11 How many flights do you commence every day?
14:30 Do you have to refuel after each flight?
15:02 Why are all rescue helicopters called Christoph?
15:51 How many "Christophs" are there?
16:04 Can you explain the construct of the ADAC Luftrettung?
16:38 Outro
In today’s video I had the great privilege to interview Jens, who is a rescue helicopter pilot on the beautiful Airbus H145, based in Ulm for the ADAC Luftrettung.
As I don't know to much about "How to become a rescue helicopter pilot", I put together your sent in questions and asked the professionals myself!
I hope this video gives you some great insights on how to become a helicopter pilot and what it is like to fly rescue missions with this beautiful aircraft!
Two more ADAC videos are in the making!
I hope you enjoyed this video and learned a little aviation fact for today! More to come tomorrow!
Wishing you all the best!
Joe
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КОМЕНТАРІ: 144
@obviousness8113
@obviousness8113 Рік тому
Please continue to make helicopter-related videos, Captain Joe. I really enjoyed this one. Ironically, the most impressive thing said in this video was that "everyone in Germany has health insurance." Astounding!
@klausm5460
@klausm5460 Рік тому
When I got my emergency doctor training in 2006 we were taught about the intricacies and implications of involving a helicopter as means of rescue. For example what limitations the cramped space and the noise level onboard put on the treatment of patients. The most surprising part for me was that especially in densely populated areas the helicopter will often be used as a transport for the doctor without actually planning to also transport the patient afterwards. The radius of operation the helicopter has just increases the flexibilty to dispatch doctors and serves a fill-in function for limited availabilty of ground-based emergency doctors´ cars.
@trystanirwin8476
@trystanirwin8476 Рік тому
As a helideck landing officer on offshore vessels I can confirm people that dont really know hand signals, confuse the pilots more than anything else, every time ive guided people through the procedure and allowed them to take control of the deck the pilots have been like " I landed up landing it without really even watching that guys hand signals"
@huwevans2653
@huwevans2653 Рік тому
Yes please. Love Rotary wing content. I worked at a UK airfield as a fire fighter and worked with H135 and H145's and S92' flown by HMRC. They are al amazing craft crewed by amazing men and women.
@MikeCookMusic
@MikeCookMusic Рік тому
For the interview... at the seats... audio for both is not stereo... mono - Joe your audio is coming from the right speaker and the guest is from the left speaker... Note to Editor... for Interviews take each audio from each person and copy and paste a second audio and link together to become stereo... (hope this helps)...
@flywithcaptainjoe
@flywithcaptainjoe Рік тому
Noted, Joe the editor!
@felegushpearson122
@felegushpearson122 Рік тому
You are fake
@gl7662
@gl7662 Рік тому
Thought I'd add my 2 cents... I got my commercial helicopter pilot licence over 20 years ago, but never made it as a pilot. 100% guarantee, the hardest part of being a helicopter pilot is getting a job after the training, not the training itself. It's probably easiest the younger you are, as you will not have become used to a certain lifestyle. Also you are less likely to be tied down to a location, and less likely to be committed to someone. Both of those things will make it difficult for you to commit to being a pilot. You will need to be very mobile.
@fabiohentges6615
@fabiohentges6615 Місяць тому
What did you Pay for your license in total?
@gamlemann53
@gamlemann53 Рік тому
I am 70 years old Captain Joe, but I still love aviasjon. This was a great wideo! They're doing a great job, and we have the same system in Norway. You are a comersial pilot, but good luck with your helicopter education! The best from me! 🙂(I flew the C-130 in the military many years ago)
@samuelyankovitch1572
@samuelyankovitch1572 Рік тому
Captain Joe, as a private pilot of a fix wing, i always expecting your next video. Your videos, are all made (even the shortest ones) in such a professional , thoughtful, informative , educated and to be learned from manner . Thank you for your great work.
@Fipspilot
@Fipspilot Рік тому
7:57 Yey, a footage from me made it into Joe´s video :P
@laratheplanespotter
@laratheplanespotter Рік тому
I really wanted to be a HEMS medic! This is a great video. My neighbour was saved HEMS when he fell off the roof while having a heart attack in 2010. Wonderful pilots and staff
@stepanvopat2162
@stepanvopat2162 Рік тому
Hello Joe! Czechoslovak than Czech and Slovak HEMS flights are still using Call sign "Kryštof", wich apparently follows ADAC utilizing name of patron saint. I do believe Austria uses similar. In Czechoslovakia was call sign assigned to base and Czech Republic kept the sequence so we do have gaps in numbering (Kryštof 1, 4, 5, 6, 7, 9, 12, 13, 15, 18).
@Quickstep80
@Quickstep80 Рік тому
Austria does have "Christophorus" helicopters, operated by ÖAMTC Flugrettung, with ÖAMTC being an ADAC affiliate. However, some other Austrian HEMS providers use different callsigns for their rescue helicopters. "Heli Austria" air ambulance has chosen "Martin" for their HEMS choppers with St. Martin being the patron saint of beggars and the poor (people in need), "Schenk Air" operates their rescue helicopters under the callsign "Robin" (derived from Robin Hood, who also gave to the poor), Wucher Helicopter chose "Gallus" as their helicopter callsign (Gallus being the first name of the founder when it originally started out as a mason company before establishing helicopter operations for construction and HEMS in the 1970s), Schider Helicopter Services calling their ambulance helicopters simply "Heli" and ARA Air Rescue using "ARA" or "RK" respectively, depending on the base's medical cooperation partner (RK for "Rotes Kreuz" = red cross).
@Biggummysmile
@Biggummysmile Рік тому
The interviews are a nice addition to the channel. Lots of interesting aviation information and advice in these chats 🚁✈️
@flywithcaptainjoe
@flywithcaptainjoe Рік тому
Glad you like them!
@SD45-ET44AC
@SD45-ET44AC Рік тому
Never flew, but I did Volunteer Fire & EMS over 20 yrs. & was so thankful to have helicopter Med-Evac Service. They had a pilot, Medic & RN but once they brought a Trauma Surgeon to do an amputation; but we were able to cut off the brake pedal and they transported the pt. with the pedal in her foot & ankle. Unfortunately she died during surgery.
@SD45-ET44AC
@SD45-ET44AC Рік тому
I’m not sure what you mean? Send you a telegram? This feeds into why I’ll never pilot anything more than a car & that’s up to my wife. Lol! Yes, the App, I do understand but after just cleaning up from having an app, phone # and email hacked I’m extremely cautious about adding any more apps. Besides … talking with Capt. Joe ,just the offer is quite an honor, seriously. I think I’ll just try to stop commenting now that I’m retired. Peace, Steve
@alkalinebass
@alkalinebass Рік тому
don't forget the Crews of DRF and all the private Organisations! Big Respect to all of you!
@moiraatkinson
@moiraatkinson Рік тому
Great comments from everyone. I’m very happy to see any new Captain Joe video, whether about helicopters or 747 tyre changing. The videos are so watchable and every single one is professionally put together. I look forward to Joe becoming a Captain and I’d certainly be interested in learning more about helicopters 😊. I’m not surprised they don’t want hand signals from untrained bystanders - heavy goods vehicles don’t even want car drivers trying to use the headlight signals they make to interact with other HGV drivers. They can’t be certain a bystander knows what they’re doing and they’d be responsible if an incorrect signal from such a person caused them to damage the aircraft or a person while landing. The most extreme place I’ve seen a helicopter land was at the coast while on a run. A Sea King was picking up an injured walker and it was parked in the rocks, with the tail sticking out over the sea.
@TheTezz100
@TheTezz100 Рік тому
Here in the UK. They're are called "helimed-(number)" eg helimed-99. Gives me a little similar mind set what the pilot & crew gose through. But piloting a helicopter alone is multitasking in its self. Let alone just navigate & throttle + yoke.
@MrTrazz09
@MrTrazz09 Рік тому
On a typical EMS system(Emergency Medical Services) its always the ground based responders will arrive at the scene first typically an ambulance, fire truck and police..then upon assessment of the situation, if needed they will now call on air rescue services. (Air ambulance, air cranes, aerial firefighting etc.
@PeterNichtlustig0815
@PeterNichtlustig0815 Рік тому
Not in Germany.
@moveabledo
@moveabledo Рік тому
You should have changed this to 2-channel mono instead of leaving the voices on opposite sides. It is actually really distracting on headphones with this completely separated stereo sound.
@noobhunter3000
@noobhunter3000 Рік тому
It drives me crazy right now
@dennis12dec
@dennis12dec Рік тому
You should visit Australia and check out the Royal Flying Doctor Service on how they operate an aeromedical service in the Outback.
@brad4057
@brad4057 Рік тому
Helicopters are so cool got to fly in a bk117 in the 90s the London fire brigade was trying one out we flew from one side of London to the other in 15 minutes just amazing aircraft..fantastic content lots of information
@dermax1254
@dermax1254 Рік тому
More Helicopter Videos please 😁 I also want to become a Helicopter Pilot and I visited the Station in Ulm as well. It was fascinating!
@fineartz99
@fineartz99 Рік тому
Commendably complimentary and inclusive content.
@timojasper1932
@timojasper1932 Рік тому
Very important and needed guys. Thanks for giving us such insights
@HornetChronicles
@HornetChronicles Рік тому
was worth waiting. thank you !
@bartvos89
@bartvos89 Рік тому
Wonderful video! Even as a frequent aviation video viewer learnt some new things :) And, earned even more respect for the pilot heroes that operate emergency flights.
@thomasblaine7948
@thomasblaine7948 Рік тому
Great interview! and very interesting topic! Thank you.
@duffman5z
@duffman5z Рік тому
Very interesting topic. Thanks for the effort!
@markm9849
@markm9849 9 місяців тому
A private pilot in limbo for last 15 years, I spend many hours flying the H135 on X-Plane in simulated HEMS environment (and I'm pretty dang good at it if I say so myself). If I had a second chance in life, it's definitely the career route I would go!
@gpriest1965
@gpriest1965 Рік тому
Joe, I would love to follow your rotary wing endeavor ! Good luck with that!!
@ILrukiamaxim55
@ILrukiamaxim55 Рік тому
This makes me even more hyped to eventually get a Commercial helicopter pilote license cuz its my dream job right now.
@CidavuKK
@CidavuKK 11 місяців тому
great interview Captain Joe. As a HEMS pilot myself I've always wondered how ADAC works and your questions covered almost all of them. Thank you. 👏🏻
@michaelmakau6833
@michaelmakau6833 Рік тому
Hello Capt. Joe, quite a detailed interview and got very nice tips about heli pilots and their operations. We will be glad to get more similar interviews. Michael from Nairobi Kenya 🇰🇪.
@captn_railaviation
@captn_railaviation Рік тому
Very nice video ❤ as always what an nice idea. Thank you again for meeting you at the pilot expo 😊
@MikeCookMusic
@MikeCookMusic Рік тому
3:55 - Sikorsky out of Connecticut (United States) - glad to be living in the state where the CH-53 and many others were built...
@ErZocktLP
@ErZocktLP Рік тому
But the German ones were build from 1972 to 1975 under license in Germany. Anyway, awesome workhorse the CH53
@lubbas72
@lubbas72 Рік тому
Captain Joe, as you’re also fluidly speak german, it would be a quite interesting to watch a video from you made in all german language! Just ad subtitles for all of us non germans. Maybe not optimal for the UKposts algorithm but make it just for fun! I’m a swede, not speaking german😜
@0321Sjoerd
@0321Sjoerd Рік тому
I would really love to see more videos on helicopters, or other aviation niche’s. Very interesting! 👍🏼
@itsyourgirlrosendaa.8594
@itsyourgirlrosendaa.8594 Рік тому
Great video i always love seeing people that can fly airplanes, jets ,or helicopter and i thought it was cool.
@GregorPQ
@GregorPQ Рік тому
I love Helis - so: Please more:) Thank you for the interesting content, highly appreciated!
@abbieamavi
@abbieamavi 2 місяці тому
Love your content, this video was fantastic as always 😊 the questions were really well rounded and interesting too
@harrynguyen1070
@harrynguyen1070 Рік тому
Oh man, this helicopter was one of my childhood. The movie show about this rescues helicopter team was awesome back in the day 🥺🥺
@bostarbird5282
@bostarbird5282 Рік тому
Great video. Very informative. Thank you
@dkortman6496
@dkortman6496 Рік тому
Yes!!! Please do more rotary videos
@josysteinbach4097
@josysteinbach4097 Рік тому
That’s was Brillant thank you 🙏
@LtNduati
@LtNduati Рік тому
MORE Helicopter videos please!
@hillsboroheliacademy2923
@hillsboroheliacademy2923 Рік тому
Great video! We of course would love to see some more Helicopter videos ;-)
@flywithcaptainjoe
@flywithcaptainjoe Рік тому
More to come with you guys😉
@LudusArtifex
@LudusArtifex Рік тому
is it just me, or is the audio on the wrong side? and no, my headset is right. r on r and l on l
@flytobi7834
@flytobi7834 Рік тому
Very intresting content! Thank you for interviewing ADAC👌👍
@SlaveToMyStomach
@SlaveToMyStomach Рік тому
A very interesting and informative video. I learned much more about ADAC than I expected. Seems like one could make a series of videos just on ADAC alone.
@simonk1307
@simonk1307 Рік тому
Excellent video - more helicopter content please!
@george7672
@george7672 Рік тому
Excellent!
@muthukrishnansingarajha3867
@muthukrishnansingarajha3867 Рік тому
Good job Capt... best wishes for your future plans too... plz post more helicopter videos as helicopters are being covered less than the fixed wing aircrafts in media....
@lollycopter
@lollycopter Рік тому
Yes please to more helicopter content! :)
@AlexSuperTramp.
@AlexSuperTramp. Рік тому
yes, please more helicopter content
@chinhnguyen-ii8up
@chinhnguyen-ii8up Рік тому
Hello captain Joe, I always support your video and I wish have a day you’re my pilot on my trip fly to Vietnam 😊
@Jorgespino
@Jorgespino 4 дні тому
Yes, it will be great to see more helicopter content. It will help us getting more familiar with the subject. It’s also my goal to get the helicopter license this summer!!
@EETNplanespotterRobi
@EETNplanespotterRobi Рік тому
Very great video. can you do a video explaining the Helicopter cockpit?
@PRCOM
@PRCOM Рік тому
Great video Joe, really good insightful questions
@8ballout
@8ballout Рік тому
Thats money well spent by the health insurance. I'd rather pay the premium and never use this service but have the peace of mind that it exists and saves lifes. Also, I would love to have more videos about rotary winged aircraft as it is so different from a fixed winged aircraft. Thank you and as always, have a safe flight.
@ahmadtheaviationlover1937
@ahmadtheaviationlover1937 Рік тому
I looove all types of aircraft including helicopters
@medicalopsgirl
@medicalopsgirl Рік тому
Love it!!!
@adrianmaas4108
@adrianmaas4108 Рік тому
Great Video ! Maybe you could visit Luxembourg Air Rescue at Findel Airport.
@n1vca
@n1vca Рік тому
Thanks a lot, very interesting. I would love to know how the high voltage line detection at night works, since that is just super scary, because they are almost invisible and one touch with the rotor blade will most likely disintegrate the aircraft, killing everyone on board, because of imbalance and these línes are usually along highways where the accidents happen.
@wayneinnc5379
@wayneinnc5379 Рік тому
Any content you have on your channel I will enjoy! Crop dusters, helicopters, turboprops, engines, control surfaces, FADEC, small jets, big jets, etc etc! Thank you!
@feudiable
@feudiable Рік тому
Your productions get better and better! As a suggestion: Could you maybe also take a look at the swiss REGA? I think it would be very intersting to compare!
@swiley4045
@swiley4045 7 місяців тому
The best helicopter pilots are trained by the military, you will get the best training you can get.
@concretetoy54
@concretetoy54 Рік тому
nice to live in first world country. thanks for interesting video
@janformolo7132
@janformolo7132 Рік тому
Thanks a lot for the video and all "Christoph crews". Every day I can see whan especially the Cristoph36 going into takeoff I know there will be care for human, is fighting for the life. It may be good feeling when a human continue his life after an accidend or in case of sickness. Allways godspeed and good luck😊
@ervinm.5065
@ervinm.5065 Рік тому
It's good to see that insurance Companies are!not just rip offs and actually pay for expensive services
@rjblitz5871
@rjblitz5871 Рік тому
When you flip/mirror the shot video you should also remember to flip the L/R sound channels
@felegushpearson122
@felegushpearson122 Рік тому
Capitaine Joe you great work I looking every time your UKposts you great teach God bless you nice😍😍🙏
@felegushpearson122
@felegushpearson122 Рік тому
Hello how are you captain joe
@selahattingokcen2256
@selahattingokcen2256 Рік тому
Please more heli related content thank youuu
@ArnaudContet
@ArnaudContet Рік тому
Great video but the sound channels are reversed (Joe you come out on the right and Jens on the left) Would definitely appreciate more rotary content.
@MeppyMan
@MeppyMan Рік тому
I started to learn to fly helicopters when I was 15. Sometimes I wish I had stuck with that as a career, but I can’t change the past. All I can do now is fly the H145 in fight simulator and 3D print myself a cyclic and collective.
@HornetChronicles
@HornetChronicles Рік тому
that took a while to wait for this video)
@RCAFpolarexpress
@RCAFpolarexpress Рік тому
🚧🚧 ADAC Helicopter pilots are the Best Of The Best 👌🧐👍🍻 🚧🚧
@elcastorgrande
@elcastorgrande Рік тому
Hadn't enough time left to serve as aircrew on helicopters in Vietnam. Did pass the physical, though. Always wanted to be aircrew.
@damianmerk4238
@damianmerk4238 Рік тому
Könntest du mal einen Eurofighter piloten Interviewen?
@cshamm
@cshamm Рік тому
PLEASE TONS more rotary. I'm a total helo nerd and one of your biggest fans.... so what does that add up to? LOVE your content.
@shotokanads3325
@shotokanads3325 Рік тому
Nice jacket....would be good to see your top 5 flight jackets and how much they cost and where to get them.
@imjustfabi7545
@imjustfabi7545 9 місяців тому
I liked the Video but I wanted to know more about becoming a ADAC Pilot and there were none of these questions.
@user-ir6vo8ud2u
@user-ir6vo8ud2u Рік тому
I ❤ helicopters
@furzkram
@furzkram Рік тому
Maybe you could collab with pilot yellow, I also remember a German female heli pilot who got her training there in Canada - she might be a good interview partner too. Cannot remember her name right now, I think she had a UKposts channel too.
@user-js4wk2er6i
@user-js4wk2er6i Рік тому
Красавчик
@mmhuq3
@mmhuq3 Рік тому
yes more rotary vider
@cianxan
@cianxan Рік тому
Video production quality wise, the audio left-right balance is not in the correct ratio, Jen is sitting on the right but the most of his audio volume is coming from left and vice versa for Joe. This can be adjusted in post production by the editor, taking note on the audio will improve the video significantly.
@lesselp
@lesselp Рік тому
It's lucky that Germans speak English so well.
@topgunm
@topgunm Рік тому
My dream job, unfortunately it's very expensive to get the required flight hours to be even considered for the job.
@roppeke
@roppeke Рік тому
Hello Captian Joe, I’m a great fan of your UKposts channel and like the explanations you described about all topics. However there is one thing I can’t understand why this is useful for, namely: If a helicopter is on a airport, civil or military, they often need to taxi like airplanes towards their spot where they are allowed to take off. What’s the use of it? Why not say to them “go ahead” and take of from the place their where stationed? Thank you for reading my question. Regards, Luc
@chrisr8996
@chrisr8996 Рік тому
A lot of times we get to do that, all depends on the location of the landing pad, traffic at and around the airport and things like aircraft weight and wind direction (read: downwash blowing over smaller aircraft).
@roppeke
@roppeke Рік тому
@@chrisr8996 Thank you 🙏
@ride__your__life
@ride__your__life Рік тому
Don't wait with your heli licesne so long 😊
@matthewhall5571
@matthewhall5571 Рік тому
Vielen Dank für dieses spannendes Interview. Ich wollte mal meinen Kommentar auf Deutsch schreiben weil ich Englischmuttersprachler bin und die Deutsche Leute kein Deutsch gesprochen haben trotzdem das Thema sehr Deutsch war. 😁
@danielruppert2472
@danielruppert2472 Рік тому
Hey, I really appreciate your comment. A really nice gesture for all the guys out there being brave enough to speak in a foreign language in front of 1.6 million subscribers. Greetings from Germany
@Jomexer
@Jomexer Рік тому
Hello Joe, I have one question, as someone who has no previous helicopter experience (only planes) where would I turn to get into this kind of work?
@sirBrouwer
@sirBrouwer Рік тому
A helicopter flight school. You really have to relearn about everything flight wise. After that you could try flying for basic a to b flights.
@Jomexer
@Jomexer Рік тому
@@sirBrouwer do you know if there are companies willing to fund flight school for pilots looking for this kind of work, if yes, what type of company would that be?
@sirBrouwer
@sirBrouwer Рік тому
@@Jomexer besides the military I have no clue.
@Jake-Rides
@Jake-Rides Рік тому
If you want to be a rescue helicopter pilot and have the training free. About 10k people will apply for 2 jobs! Mega long application process, probably over 1 year. You will a degree most likely in a relative subject. Even if you got in…probably will need to commit to a minimum for 10 years post training
@keitholiver3981
@keitholiver3981 Рік тому
Hi Joe, how does your 747 rating help you to transfer to a rotary license, or does it?
@marsgal42
@marsgal42 Рік тому
It gives you credit for some things (weather, navigation, etc.) but you still have to learn to actually fly a helicopter.
@chrisr8996
@chrisr8996 Рік тому
From a heli flight instructors perspective I can tell you it's usually much, much harder for the FW guys to convert to rotary than the other way around, there's a lot of habits FW pilots have to actively un-learn first in order to fly choppers, from the miniscule cyclic control inputs needed to things like never pushing your stick forward (esp. during an engine failure).
@captain_daniel9y631
@captain_daniel9y631 10 місяців тому
Do search and rescue
@we1lvideo
@we1lvideo Рік тому
More helo vids pls!
@genshimano7678
@genshimano7678 Рік тому
Hi! i'mjapanese. your videos is always so interesting, but sometimes, i can't understand it because of my english skills. So, could you please make english subtittles?
@a-8007
@a-8007 Рік тому
Absolutely rotary wing
@slo3337
@slo3337 8 місяців тому
So all I have to do is be 5 yrs old growing up around a bunch of helicopter pilots. Sounds easy, let me just take these reverse aging pills and move to an air force base!
@d_anko9959
@d_anko9959 Рік тому
Pleased to see a video about the MH370. What is your private opinion about the missing plane.
@411Adidas
@411Adidas Рік тому
A helicopter needs 800 meters of visibility? Why? Isn't a 747, 500 meters?
@-TobsA-
@-TobsA- Рік тому
Only an emergency helicopter need the 800 meters of visibility. They are flying low to the ground, so you need the visibility to detect power lines or wind turbines.
@411Adidas
@411Adidas Рік тому
@@-TobsA- that makes 100% sense. I was more referring to when he said they won't even take off with less than 800m of visibility. Seems like an excessive rule when all you have to do is go up. Especially since your emergency landing zone may be an hour away where their may be clear sky's. Of course theirs exceptions. still very interesting facts nonetheless.
@-TobsA-
@-TobsA- Рік тому
@@411Adidas here in Germany we have a really dense net of the emergency helicopters. So in the most cases you landing side is not more than 10 minutes of flight time away. So in the most cases if you don't have 800 meters at your base you also don't have 800 meters at your lading spot.
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