Is 4 Cores Still Enough?
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AMD and Intel are trying super hard to get you to buy an 8+ core CPU, but if you're still rocking a quad-core is it worth upgrading?
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0:00 - Intro
0:49 - Glasswire
1:10 - Test setup
1:40 - Quad Cores getting dominated
2:13 - But life isn't just Cinebench
3:30 - Gaming Benchmarks
4:42 - lttstore.com
5:00 - But life isn't just gaming
6:45 - Why overbuilding can be good
7:26 - The i7-4770K looks tasty at $100
8:35 - Ting Mobile
9:25 - Outro
@ritwikjp213 2 роки тому
Linus: “Fact of life, someone is always trying to sell you stuff “ Also Linus: “buy glasswire “
@AAHAHHHHH 2 роки тому
he's self aware the other guy at 0:09 has LTT merch
@envigraphy 2 роки тому
1:00
@robert4you 2 роки тому
...but you don't have to buy ;-)
@psycronizer 2 роки тому
@@robert4you yeah, and 99.9 percent of people don't, and it's those people that get pissed off with being bombarded with ads that are pointless, they are simply not in the market for "junk". For example, I'd NEVER ever fork out on a silly linus drink canister, that's the height of stupidity ! his purpose is for reviews etc , information, and his motivation to diversify revenue streams is borne out of getting so big, so many employees that he has to. But it's not his core reason for being, it's just superfluous junk for the vast majority of us, and trust me, when you get to my age , 51, it just pisses you off, because you KNOW you are never going to buy it, it's a pointless waste of your time, a bloody annoying one.
@robert4you 2 роки тому
@@psycronizer _"....and trust me, when you get to my age , 51, it just pisses you off, because you KNOW you are never going to buy it, it's a pointless waste of your time..."_ Believe me, I trust you, and I know exactly what you are talking about. I am 52 by the way.
@YourLordMobius 2 роки тому
Linus: tries not to drop tech Tech: fine I'll do it myself
@awesome8831 2 роки тому
Not funny
@mandin3100 2 роки тому
Dude this made me laugh hahaha
@RafaAelM 2 роки тому
Hello fellow Ace Combat fan
@TMOCast 2 роки тому
God damn it man, use spoiler tags!
@mba4677 2 роки тому
🤣🤣🤣 fcking GOLD dde
@VaughanDavies 2 роки тому
As someone who has been using an i7-4770k since 2014, I can safely say I will upgrade, but I'm amazed at what my CPU can still do after all these years. [EDIT], It's been a year since I posted this, but I have finally reached the point where I need to upgrade. Act 3 of Baldur's Gate 3 runs at just 17fps for me. Sadly, my i7-4770k is starting to show its age. (I have a GTX 1080, BG3 is more CPU intensive than GPU)
@Flow-Joe 2 роки тому
Same here. Ordered a new system this week, because it only can't handle modern minecraft anymore (very single core intensive), which i almost exclusively play nowadays. I'm gonna miss it. Best piece of hardware i ever bought.
@coccoborg 2 роки тому
I'm even more amazed by my 11 yo i7 2600! It's so good to be able to glide through the shortages and enjoy gaming during this pandemic, I never thought a CPU+motherboard combo would last me this much! (Yes, I'm using a motherboard that's over 10 yo!)
@Quisspo 2 роки тому
Same here, it really was a golden age for processor power back then. Now I finally ordered an i7-12700F after 8 years of still decent performance on the 4770
@cherrymarshmallow 2 роки тому
Same I got a 4790 I've been using for the last forever, with a 1650s I got 3 years ago. And yet it still runs almost every game I throw at it.
@dominicshortbow1828 Рік тому
Im using a i7-4790 with a rtx 2060, and 32gb ram!
@misterPAINMAKER 4 місяці тому
Do a new video in 2024
@wilkins514 2 роки тому
Linus: These older components can still perform great for you. Market: Lets increase the price by 40%
@Nemofishman 2 роки тому
Buyers: Wait for 6 months to force the companies to lower prices by 25-30%.
@AlasdairGR 2 роки тому
@@Nemofishman This would maybe work if FOMO wasn’t a thing.
@miweneia 2 роки тому
@@Nemofishman hahah you wish, this shit's been going on for over a year now, have fun "waiting 6 months" forever
@mikeymaiku 2 роки тому
@@miweneia covid 19 all over again
@wilkins514 2 роки тому
@@Nemofishman I paid MSRP for all my parts a few months ago because I took the time to go to microcenter. Believe it or not, this market won't change in 6 months. You either have to go to a store on a shipment date or fall for the scalpers market.
@PojebanyWladyslaw 2 роки тому
Linus: is 4 cores enough? me with a dual-core i5: ah yes, intresting
@Coolit2683 2 роки тому
I know sarcasm when I see it, but the cheap budget pc nerd in me has to respond with details... Sounds like an intel socket 1156, first gen I5 are the only ones with dual core... probably a 6xx You can ebay an I5-760 for about 30 to 50$ CAD, which will give you 4 cores... Or you can buy an old dell optiplex or Lenovo thinkcenter with an I5-2400 or I7... those go for 100$
@saricubra2867 2 роки тому
@@Coolit2683 I heavily recommend an i7-4700MQ as the minimum for laptops, i own one and it's a beast (it's like the 2600K at stock but higher IPC and has half of the power consumption). I do music production, i game on it, can run my favorite consoles in emulators.
@exhydraboy2429 2 роки тому
@@Coolit2683 sounds like a 2015 macbook air
@bedroxzbass4706 2 роки тому
I have a i5 3470 and its great with my 1050 2gb. I can run gta at high-ultra settings (apart from shadows) at 37 minimum fps and that's enough for me as I was previously a console gamer
@MichaelReznoR 2 роки тому
@@Coolit2683 2-Core i5's are very common among laptops.
@raheeldhanani1428 2 роки тому
So cool! Absolutely agreed, older tech is only older, it's still extremely functional for almost everything that needs doing for most users.
@reginsjose Рік тому
Still rocking with a i7 4790 with 16 gigs of RAM and GTX 1650. Delivers me 30-60 fps for whatever i want. PUBG is my major game and gets 75fps sync with monitor
@exoticdachoo007 Рік тому
I got an I5-4670k combined with an RX570 and have 8GB of dual channel and get about the same fps on most modern games. I guess unless game specifications skyrocket, we are chilling with the mid-end builds just fine
@universalweapon2382 Рік тому
i got a i7 4790k ,16gbs of ram and a rx5700xt.. its decent. if only the 4790k was a 6c12t. it could have lasted a bit longer.
@exoticdachoo007 Рік тому
@@universalweapon2382 I think Linus did a video about how the cores dont really affect game performance much, obviously the difference between an I7 with 4 cores and an I9 with 24 cores is probably very damn noticable but between 4-8 is rather the same unless you plan on running other programs while gaming or if you are doing Blender modeling or something more demanding
@dasrundeviereck7194 Рік тому
i got i7-920 with 16 GB ddr3 ram and a GTX 660 and if I have any programm running in the backround my games freezes every few seconds... so overall 9/10 cant complain
@ToyotaTrucks9 Рік тому
Very similar specs but with a 4790k and a gtx 1060 6gb
@realitytechnology 2 роки тому
I'm a huge advocate of budget builds and money saving when things aren't necessary. Love seeing this type of content get some widespread recognition.
@Graphics_Card 2 роки тому
Omg look at these bots
@thedeadliest4380 2 роки тому
@@Graphics_Card Please report as many of the comments as possible
@brquackenbush4144 2 роки тому
yeah same
@Reverse_Goat 2 роки тому
69th like
@asandax6 2 роки тому
A simple rule of thumb: If you know you can't afford high-end PC than automatically you aren't going to be able to afford any games that will require High-end PC.
@dumpsterdawg 2 роки тому
When that CPU fell over it was like "Welp It's Linus....Let's just get it over with"
@JGComments 2 роки тому
Preemptive strike, lol.
@shanedoesyoutube8001 2 роки тому
But the thing is... Was it really dropping itself??? Or had it fallen and it couldn't get up???
@D3lor34n 2 роки тому
I like this approach a lot, i think it would be an interesting video idea to explore deeper into real world usage and maybe subjective feelings like snappyness.
@WeDoBeeVibing Рік тому
I had bought a 4790k brand-new back then and used it all the way up until around 2019 when I started to get some mobo/cpu problems (possibly due to my long-term OC.) I wasn't able to quite figure it out and I didn't have the chance to test it in a new mobo, but I ended up upgrading to a Ryzen 3700x. Aside from the degradation, the CPU was plenty powerful to handle the majority of my tasks: compiling, gaming, light video work, etc. I get excited whenever new tech comes out and it's hard to resist, but older stuff is definitely still worth checking out especially if you struggle to afford the newer stuff. Still running a GTX 1060 6GB which was upgraded from dual R9 290X. Also note I tend to run local gameservers and have full IDEs running in the background while taking a break and running games. I recently had to upgrade to 32GB RAM for that but the CPU was still plenty for the task.
@brandex2297 2 роки тому
Linus: "All you need are 4 cores."* *with hyperthreading
@chronossage 2 роки тому
Yeah alot of budget people bought nice budget cpus with no hyperthreading and those people sadly are sadly looking for new CPUs.
@L_T_Z 2 роки тому
Linus really speaks the heart of former Intel CEO Brian Krzanich lol XD (Did he also mention "all you need is 14nm++++++" in one of the previous episodes?)
@Ari--d 2 роки тому
my 6 core without hyperthreading is fine
@Shadowninja1200 2 роки тому
As someone who used to have a true quad core. I felt this in my soul. I started having issues with modern games stuttering and hitches with my cpu going to 100% nearly all the time (this is with almost no background tasks open). I overshot it bit with a 3700 ryzen cpu (pre-pandemic it wasn't much more then a 3600 during a sale)but it has served me well ever since.
@jmacd8817 2 роки тому
@@Shadowninja1200 My 6600k is crying 😢
@osvass_ 2 роки тому
"Are 4 Cores Still Enough?" Me watching from a 2 core laptop: I dont know, lets find out
@_Not_Brian_ 2 роки тому
2 core gang
@abdirasaqali7775 2 роки тому
Lol 4 cores-8 cores logical is good
@pdblouin 2 роки тому
My 4-core laptop from 2012 overheats watching 1080p UKposts, if I have it on my skin, it hurts. It also doesn't run unless plugged in. But I can run VSCode on it, so I have that going for me, which is nice.
@Vernas_R 2 роки тому
@@pdblouin You might need some new thermal paste + a good fan cleaning/replacement.. not to mention the battery.
@gwathanaur 2 роки тому
@@arienn2665 yeah, I still have an old 2 core 4 thread i7 laptop laying around somewhere and for everyday/work use, it doesn't perform noticeably different to my new 6 core ryzen one.
@m7mdarwani964 2 роки тому
00:26 Me watching this on my 12 years old dual core processor : heck yes that is right.
@UndertakerU2ber 2 роки тому
I’m surprised Linus didn’t touch on emulation. It’s still very CPU dependent and emulating more modern systems will be impossible on a 2013 quad core CPU. I tried running RPCS3 and found it to be far too demanding for my 4670k when testing God of War 3, The Last of Us, etc. The 5800x at stock speeds easily made those titles playable.
@JBlNN 2 роки тому
Because nobody gives a shit about emulation.
@UndertakerU2ber 2 роки тому
@@JBlNN Many people give a shit about emulation, especially since it's a very CPU demanding task.
@CheapSushi 2 роки тому
@@JBlNN Not everyone is rich enough to have every game physically and every console.
@hypnogri5457 2 роки тому
Isn't emulation like cemu or yuzu very single core dependent?
@UndertakerU2ber 2 роки тому
@@hypnogri5457 I believe that's true, since the systems they're emulating are tri-core and quad-core respectively. RPCS3 is one of the few emulators that can utilize 8 CPU cores for its workload, and some features are even blocked off if your processor is unable to handle 12 or more threads simultaneously.
@jason29853 2 роки тому
"The old, crappy quad-core PC you already have" I can't believe just a few years ago my i7-7700k w/ a 1080ti was high end...
@TonyisToking 2 роки тому
He’s right ^ 1080 Ti is SOLID though. So just update your platform and you’re GOLDEN!
@bigdoggo5827 2 роки тому
That's what you get for buying 7th gen just before Intel launched it's 8th gen a year later. Just like me with an i5 7400 I bought cus I need it for the university
@dudebroguymate 2 роки тому
@@TonyisToking Solid for certain things. Not so solid for others.
@Seatanic 2 роки тому
Still rocking 7700k with 2070s. Will probably keep it going a bit longer depending on it running battlefield, deathloop, and far cry 6 at 1440
@romevang 2 роки тому
@@bigdoggo5827 I was building my current rig at that time, and Ryzen was just a rumor. It was a gamble to wait for Ryzen or buy Kaby Lake. I waited for Ryzen and i don't regret it. Also paired it with a 1080ti, which by the way i just sold it back in may because prices were insane and decided to cash out. Though i didn't expect graphics cards to continue selling for these inflated prices.... i was hoping to upgrade later this year but doesn't seem like that's happening.
@codespyder 2 роки тому
"The old, crappy quad-core PC you already have" thanks for taking me down a notch today Linus. I was feeling too good about myself and needed that.
@hansolo8069 2 роки тому
😅😅😅
@dudebroguymate 2 роки тому
@Ladioz I agree. Spending $300 on a modern 6 core platform shouldn't be this big of a deal. I spent more than twice that amount on SSDs alone and I'm just an ordinary person, not a rich arabian oil prince.
@antibob72 2 роки тому
@Ladioz You can get a last-gen 6 core CPU for less than $150 used. potentially updating the motherboard (and maybe RAM too) is the bigger issue
@Silent_Shadow 2 роки тому
@@dudebroguymate I got my i5-9600k for $165.00 with a promo code a little over a year ago. I've got all core OC profiles that are stable at 5.0ghz. I don't keep it overclocked all the time. Normally run 4.6ghz and it stays cool and stable. My strange point is... People are unbelievably bad with their money, or don't save. Then some are just broke and I've been all 3. I grew up and realized I sucked with money in general. Once I figured that out all of this sudden I was able to buy the things I wanted. Also became patient enough to wait for that sweet deal.
@Depl0rable10 2 роки тому
@@dudebroguymate 300 is still a big chunk of change tho, I also have a 6 core but there is a reason people still make 4 core cpus, because some people cant afford 300 and others just need a google and email box and spend their money on other stuff
@cartman20000 2 роки тому
Still on a 6700k cpu for my build. Recently upgraded the gfx card to a 3080ti, which the quad core is a little underpowered for, although I game at 4k so it's not terribly noticeable, in most games. The old card I had was a gtx1080 that I've had for around 5 and a half years, there aren't really any recent games that you can get 60+ fps at 4k on that card and a few that can run under 30fps(Rdr2 cranked up with ≈20-26fps).
@hugopereira5640 Рік тому
Pretty sure if you ran RDR2 with Xbox One X settings you'd be getting 40fps easily.
@JakeLikesTech 2 роки тому
Please do an updated video that include Intel's new efficiency cores. I may be wrong, but I assume that they would handle the background tasks test a lot better than even the 5800x shown here.
@NathanMillerVisuals 2 роки тому
My 4790K was still totally usable when I upgraded my PC to handle professional Blender workflows. So used my old motherboard and CPU to make a Plex server/Linux goof around machine. I like to call it the Toyota Hilux of CPUs.
@smudgeone 2 роки тому
My 4790k has been oc'd to 4.7 GHz 1.25V all core for the last 6-7 years. I've had some issues with the Asus Maximus MB but it was mostly the clock battery dying. Its only for gaming still so it'll keep trucking for a while longer I hope.
@fetus2280 2 роки тому
Ive got the same, 4790k and ive got its little brother the i5 . They still work just fine for gaming but i use them as secondary systems to my ryzen rig . Theyre still good to game on and will be for a while and thats really cool imo . No real need to have the biggest and best when that will do Just Fine.
@tursh4724 2 роки тому
damn
@altonb 2 роки тому
Ahh blender. The free program that makes you spend a bunch of money.
@alexthelion335 2 роки тому
@@altonb Spend a lot of money?
@RefluxCapacitor 2 роки тому
Honestly, watching every scrapyard wars during COVID taught me SO MUCH about what is and isn’t possible with cheap, low end, secondhand parts.
@Hybris51129 2 роки тому
It's all about keeping your goals realistic.
@14bqdonk 2 роки тому
Yeah man. For some people 4 cores is absolutely not enough, but others still don't need more of it. Not every single people do the same things/task in their computer. Some are designer, some are gamer and some are just want a laptop just for microsoft office and little entertainment or to keep their photos
@amane2254 2 роки тому
AISURU.TOKYO/eunji?💞 (◍•ᴗ•◍)✧*。18 years and over UKposts: This is fine Someone: Says "heck" UKposts: Be gone #однако #я #люблю #таких #рыбаков #Интересно #забавно #девушка #смешная #垃圾
@ManunKanava 2 роки тому
I have watched every scrabyard wars season twice during covid
@MaxMichel89 2 роки тому
Sad thing about scrapyardwars is thr lack of new episodes due to covid and the shortages to this day 😪
@dagrimmreepa 2 роки тому
The only flatscreen game in which I really noticed a big difference in performance since swapping my 7700k with a 5800x, was The Ascent. I went from hardcapped at like 45fps on ultrawide 1440p (DX 11 or 12, settings at ultra or low, RTX off or on) to anywhere from 80-125, depending on RT/DLSS settings. I was like, cool, then played for 3 hours and never went back. Gets old fast. But for something like PCVR it's a huge improvement. Games are now so smooth at 120hz, when before I was experiencing hitching. Not, like, a TON, but enough to be noticeable and just that little nagging splinter ruining some of the immersion. Expensive, but worth it if you have a good GPU.
@malcomreynolds4103 4 місяці тому
and something like that was more likely from something added to the newer CPU to accelerate specific workloads rather than the additional cores
@rottonjon 2 роки тому
I've been a fan of the dell precision t3620's i7-6700 prebuilts (remove stock drive bay and remake to fit bigger GPU) but what am I missing out on by using these, given I use the heavier CPU cooler and always re paste the CPU. They seem to hold up very well, especially with a GTX 1070/1080.
@1-upboyy272 2 роки тому
Linus- Is 4 cores still enough? Me with a dual core intel cpu-Interesting
@lowbudgetmovies94 2 роки тому
I remember when core 2 Duo was THE shit
@davidnordin2199 2 роки тому
Didn't you watch the video man?
@that_kaii 2 роки тому
same
@Flash_345 2 роки тому
Yes yes we get it, you're broke, thanks for sharing.
@drachna 2 роки тому
@@Flash_345 Hey, come on now. Most modern laptops under 500 euro are 2 core 4 thread. I'd hardly call someone broke for buying one of them. Also, who give a fuck if someone doesn't have a spare 100 euro to blow on a new cpu?
@michaelroy1631 2 роки тому
I do appreciate the effort to include this perspective along with all the "most powerful gaming PC" fun bits.
@micahlingle1060 2 роки тому
*the 4690k voices its appreciation*
@UserName-we3uh 2 роки тому
I love the system wallpaper at the beginning!
@maestrohun 2 роки тому
Great video. By my experience and infos only very few games that need more than 4C/8T or in certain games just lowering 1 or 2 video settings do need much lower CPU power and also you saved the world, money, energy, etc...
@sebastian7539 2 роки тому
Linus: Someone is always trying to sell you something Also Linus: Buy my shirt!
@Silent_Shadow 2 роки тому
Also most of their videos are essentially advertising, and then LTT store every 2 seconds. lol I don't hate the hustle, it's just a bit ironic.
@techfreakjames 2 роки тому
Linus: "You don't have to buy anything" Then proceeds to sponsor segue Then Linus: "Yes, I appreciate the irony". Al least, he's honest.
@kxrannn.g 2 роки тому
I hate these bot comments -_-
@morosis82 2 роки тому
Man's got mouths to feed, they've always been fairly transparent with how they do sponsors though.
@youkofoxy 2 роки тому
The irony started when the showed the LTT merchandise.
@chriscannon4262 2 роки тому
I got my Ryzen 5 1600 AF 6/12 CPU for $85 US when it came out. Which was an upgrade from a Ryzen 5 1400. As I've found even now the 1400 costs more atm including used parts like $100 or more. Then installed 2 NVMe drives and a SATA SSD runs pretty sweet imo
@BadMotivator66 2 роки тому
you guys are so good at explaining this stuff to a tech noob like me, thank you so much :) keep it up!
@N3mdraz Рік тому
So if a mama mother board and a papa cpu fall in live they make system memory babies....
@Janduin45 2 роки тому
If my 1060 hadn't started acting up this spring I'd still be gaming happily on my 2600K from 2011.
@hi_tech_reptiles 2 роки тому
Well if you are gaming at 1080p60hz and playing older games or on low etc, especially competetive games or something those lower end or older builds can really last. If you enjoy 144hz AAA games or 4K or 1440p144hz etc, a 1060 isnt gonna cut it, let alone a 2600k for many games.
@Montrala 2 роки тому
I still gane on 2600 (non-k). My HD7970 was giving me bsods so I replaced it with RTX2060. I can game 1080p, stream and edit videos in Resolve with no problems.
@Tru7hiness 2 роки тому
I wanted to upgrade to an NVMe boot drive, or else my 2550k would probably still be my daily driver.
@andrescarrasco1248 2 роки тому
I won the silicon lottery back in 2011 my 2600k can has been running at 4.9 GHz at 1.3v for 10 years now and it still works like a charm, it run originally with a gt 210, then with a r9 280x and only last year was forced to upgrade to a 1660 super as my 280x was dying, I'm sure the CPU is becoming a bottleneck for the GPU but my display is 2560x1080 at 75hz so I get a pretty good experience, also I got myself a r7 5800h laptop with a rtx 3050ti and it's way faster on things like video editing, rendering but you'll never realize the difference on web browsing or office work
@Janduin45 2 роки тому
@@andrescarrasco1248 Yeah mine was OC'd 1GHz for about 10 years. Such a beast of a cpu. Thinking about what I'll use it for next. Maybe a gaming pc for guests or something. :D
@LuizDK007 2 роки тому
Im still rocking my 10years old i7 3770. Best thing i did was to get a good processor back then. Added 2x4gb ddr3 (from 2x4gb originaly) a SSD and swapped the old GTX660 for a GTX1060. Still takes everything i throw at it with grace :)
@Reaper57 2 роки тому
I also have a PC with that exact same cpu and it worked great. it's still solid for gaming if you can scrap a PC with it for $100.
@1nfamous76 2 роки тому
@@Reaper57 Fact, I HAVE THE i7 3770K overclocked to 4.2 with a GTX 1080Ti along with 16gb 2666mhz RAM and it games just fine at 1440p. i'm upgrading now but that setup is STILL solid because when i bought that CPU it was the most powerful out at the time
@TheRustyRagdoll 2 роки тому
For sure. I have a 4790K OC'd to 4.8Ghz, 16GB of RAM and a 2070. Handles anything i threw at it so far. Sure i've got an overkill Cooler but it's a small price to pay instead of getting a newer mobo and CPU.
@1nfamous76 2 роки тому
@@Snake-ms7sj 8.1 then, I loved that OS but was forced to go to windows 10 due to HDR support. I sense you have a soft feeling towards that build and rightly so. My build with the same CPU is one of my prized possessions.
@heyasucks 2 роки тому
still workin with an i7 3770 only problem is that i'm stuck with an hd 6870 gpu
@mkVision424 Рік тому
Thanks for this tip. It was really helpful as I am planning to upgrade my gpu but still have the exact i7 that you showed on this video. With 4 cores
@ErnestPWorrell1984 2 роки тому
I'm still using my i7 950 PC that I built 12 years ago and it still runs perfectly fine to this day. It has had a number of upgrades done to it over the years such as upgrading the RAM from 6GB to 12GB, changing the GPU from a 9800GT to a GTX 660, added a second DVD-RW drive and added a SSD for the very first time last year to use purely for the operating system. The two existing hard drives that were being used for the operating system and backups are now purely used for storage. I had thought about building a new PC at one point due to the age of it but soon changed my mind when I thought about it some more, the computer does everything that I need it to and it does it very well. When I was in the process of buying parts for it I made sure that I was buying the very best components that I could afford at the time, not only did I want high performance I also wanted a PC that had a lot of upgrade options so I went with the Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD5 motherboard which was very costly at the time (Over £200) but it was worth every penny. Apart from the upgrades that I've bought over the years, the only other stuff that I've bought is various Raspberry Pi models over the years. The current one that I'm mainly using is a Raspberry Pi 4 4GB that I bought not too long ago and have only gotten around to setting it up to use, I've been using it for a while now using the desktop instead of the command line like I normally would and it runs surprisingly well. The quad core Broadcom CPU and the extra RAM that that they have added really does help with the performance a lot.
@xDB8x 2 роки тому
"Are 4 Cores Still Enough?" My quad core reading the title: "And I took that personally"
@genericscottishchannel1603 2 роки тому
*_Crashes_*
@freepalestine7123 2 роки тому
Me who just got an i5 1135g7 🤣
@Reverse_Goat 2 роки тому
69th like
@kiku8474 2 роки тому
AISURU.TOKYO/eunji?💞 (◍•ᴗ•◍)✧*。18 years and over UKposts: This is fine Someone: Says "heck" UKposts: Be gone #однако #я #люблю #таких #рыбаков #Интересно #забавно #девушка #смешная #垃圾
@aminelswefy1808 2 роки тому
@@freepalestine7123 same lol
@CarthagoMike 2 роки тому
_"You need to test Strategy Games that can use a multi-core cpu to calculate all the possible AI moves."_ 4:02 *Paradox Interactive:* yeh, lets put that all on a single core, shall we. Who needs multi-core anyways.
@user-kq7fe1ny7n 2 роки тому
🤣So true
@Kenttheclark 2 роки тому
cries in cities skylines
@likilike501 2 роки тому
Sadly true. Another 40 euro "DLC" of course probably soon is going to be out. 200 euro game ? Oh yeah. Stellaris sadly.
@bitelaserkhalif 2 роки тому
@@likilike501 cities skylines DLC is well too expensive
@masterofraw1175 2 роки тому
@@likilike501 Oh boy you stellaris guys have it easy
@fungjungkung Рік тому
Still rocking my i5-4590 from my 2015 budget build ($450 build back in the day). Just upgraded the RAM to 16GB from 8GB by buying an old used kit off ebay, and upgraded the graphics card from an EVGA GTX 750 TI to a used EVGA GTX 1070 SC that I also bought off ebay Total upgrade cost was around $180, and it turns out, the GTX 1070 SC pairs really well with the i5-4590 in terms of CPU bottlenecking the GPU. I expect my current rig to last at least another 3 years before I'm forced to upgrade again
@gamingallday954 Рік тому
same here i had i5 4590 in 2015 & it was one of the best
2 роки тому
I can tell that my 4790k I bought 2016 could play just everything I threw to it until last week very well. With a 1080ti it was a more than capable gaming rig. Unfortunately the mainboard broke, and getting a reasonable mainboard for it was not as easy in 2022 as I thought :(
@cherrymarshmallow 2 роки тому
Yeah I looked aswell, and ended up biting the bullet on a $170 mobo for 10 year old hardware.
@leonardo25gabriel Рік тому
My mobo (same lga1150 as you) started having some problems last week, I thought to myself "Man, there is like almost 10 generations ahead of mine, it should be cheap to buy a compatible mobo", man I was wrong, every 1150 mobo was almost the price as a mobo for a modern setup, I'm not even talking about good mobos, I'm talking about shitty generic mobos with only one PCI x16 slot , not even an extra PCI x1 slot and only 10/100mbps connection. I'm glad my mobo started working again, it doesn't seem to much, but nearly losing it made me appreciate way more my humble setup (i5 4570, 8gb ram and gt1030)
@cherrymarshmallow Рік тому
@@leonardo25gabriel I have a i7-4790, gtx 1650s, and 16gb of ram. I kinda wish I just got a new computer, but I mean I am poor so what can you do.
@lorrr_enzo Рік тому
Isn't 1150 mobos only cost $40?? Bought my b85m-d3v-a for $38 back in may just replace my dead h81m-dgs. I'm running i5 4670 with r9 290x for maximum year 2014 vibes
@nyson7279 Рік тому
@@lorrr_enzo I think he is talking about z97 or something? I also bought my b85m-g for around $35
@schakoska 2 роки тому
"Are 4 Cores Still Enough?" Me crying with 2 cores
@HarshitDube 2 роки тому
+1
@michael04__806 2 роки тому
pain
@blekius_ 2 роки тому
same
@dannihijacked2508 2 роки тому
SAME
@smilynight6243 2 роки тому
I have a 11 years old computer bro with win10
@l.d.leiter8038 2 роки тому
The amount of time and money the LMG team spends on memeing Linus is much appreciated
@haydenjames7019 2 роки тому
Wow thank you this is what I've been trying to work out means I can get a new gpu slowly by the rest of the other components to slowly build up a new over more time thanks Linus & crew
@giles1222 Рік тому
Still on my i5-2500k and going to upgrade, but it is still very much usable and runs most modern games still (although settings will need to be tweaked on CPU intensive titles). Overclocking in the last few years has really given it some extra ooomph
@joey9511 Рік тому
Same here running with a gtx 760 still running most games with playable settings. The most impressive thing is the reliability I've spent years abusing this poor thing 😅
@marlanivanovich1828 Рік тому
The same with i5 3570k (OCed to 4.2 Ghz). With 1060 GTX 6Gb it still rocks on 1080p (stable 60fps+) at least at medium settings (W3 NextGen even on Ultra+ Dx11). Despite my working laptop having i7 7700hq (4c/8t), PC with i5 3570k subjectively has much lesser input lag while communicating with Win11.
@518UN4 2 роки тому
"most decompression tasks will complete in seconds" *cries in 100 GB Skyrim Modpacks*
@chlorine.f3 2 роки тому
Same...
@aniruddhahar 2 роки тому
Skyrim modding is a legit high end workload, and it alone completely justifies the need for my 5900X and 3080
@KokoroKatsura 2 роки тому
A N I M E N I M E
@Phenom98 2 роки тому
Skyrim is crap
@Catsrules1 2 роки тому
@@Phenom98 How dare you insult Todd Howard's creation. How could it be crap when IT JUST WORKS?
@StreamSonic 2 роки тому
"Is 4 cores still enough" Atom 4 core: Horray we are not dead yet.
@saricubra2867 2 роки тому
@@TheChrimboEffectEven more DOA compared to Gracemont cores from Alder Lake (they have the potential to outperform Skylake cores).
@Montisaquadeis 2 роки тому
I have a Celeron N3450 which is based on the "Atom" level cores and its perfectly fine for web browsing and light task using ChromeOS and android apps
@WarrenGarabrandt 2 роки тому
I have an Atom C2538 in my NAS and it seems to run just fine. I don't game on it, of course, but not every device I own needs to be able to run Cinebench and Final Fantasy XIV.
@a5913015 2 роки тому
@@saricubra28674C4T Gracemont With 2C4T Pentium In the R15 Multi-Core has the same performers! So, don't think it can beat Skylake Cores..
@saricubra2867 2 роки тому
@@a5913015 What they mean is power efficiency and area efficiency, those 2 cores and 4 threads of Skylake cores use waaaaay more power
@DavidTMSN 2 роки тому
I just built a 4790k system. Got the chip for a good price. Just wish I could have found the Z97x WS board from Asus for a reasonable price. Ended up with the Gaming 7 from Gigabyte instead. Upgraded from i5 750...well worth it.
@penajuan46 2 роки тому
I upgraded my 3570k to a 3770 last year and that alone had a big impact on some games I play like The Division 2. Went from averaging around 70 fps with stuttering to 90 fps and smooth game play. I also did a before and after bench test before I upgraded and went from a score of 6k to 9k with the 3770.
@kitandrei 2 роки тому
Thats pretty funny, i did the exact same upgrade also last year. I didnt want to spend a lot of money for a new mobo, cpu and ddr4 memory, so just went with the 3770k. Im still looking for a new graphics card though since im still on a gtx680
@penajuan46 2 роки тому
@@kitandrei If you find a decent enough gpu you'll still get great performance for 1080p gaming. I have my system paired with a 1070ti that I got back in 2018 before the world turned upside down and it still runs great.
@youtubeshadowbannedme 2 роки тому
70 to 90fps isnt exactly what id consider an upgrade. i went from a crappy A10 APU to i5 9300H, and i went from barely able to playing CSGO at low res and set (1024x768 @ 25FPS), to now able to max it out and get very high fps (1920x1080 @ 150FPS). ofc i also have a dedicated GPU instead of before where i was just stuck with integrated GPU.
@penajuan46 2 роки тому
@@youtubeshadowbannedme I think that depends on your perspective. In benchmarks the difference between a 3080 and a 3090 is around 15 fps. So to get a 20 fps performance increase as well as eliminating the stuttering problem I was having; I'd definitely call that an upgrade.
@Bugatti12563 Рік тому
Using my 3770 since 2012, it is still very capable. Unfortunately there is only one Ivy Bridge cpu above it which is the 3770K.
@HeadsUpTV 2 роки тому
"Are 4 cores enough?" My quad core with hyperthreading: We consider ourselves in the 8 core gang.
@powerfulaura5166 2 роки тому
Ostensibly.
@TonyisToking 2 роки тому
@Transistor Jump Yeah, because 8 Cores tend to have 16 threads, lol. Try an 8 Core AMD FX and you will see what I mean, hahaha. But yes, hyperthreading isn’t exactly 1:1 performance to double the core count, and Osmien seemed to know that. He was being sarcastic.
@timthedim 2 роки тому
@@TonyisToking fx processor s are actually half core count due to there being 1 node per pair of cores ......... remember the lawsuit
@timthedim 2 роки тому
@Transistor Jump correct 1 node per pair of cores in fx halfed performance
@Miguel-jm2pf 2 роки тому
@@TonyisToking I don't think you understand what he was saying. It's like comparing an 8600K to a 9700K. 4C8T =/= 8C8T, in terms of per thread performance.
@DrModsQ 2 роки тому
"The old, crappy quad-core PC you already have is good enough" my AMD A10-7800: ***laughs in 15fps***
@kevinleroy3155 2 роки тому
xd so true i have A9 on my laptop and bruh tha's terrible
@dudebroguymate 2 роки тому
The moment when you actually wish you had an FX lol.
@arvixes8300 2 роки тому
@Kaspars Sentinels playing with ryzen 5 2400g laughs in 70 to 150 fps and
@vocassen 2 роки тому
Still gaming with my AMD Phenom II X6 1100T Technically 6 cores but no hyperthreading, so I guess comparable to a 4 core?
@robowenmikels 2 роки тому
Dang, A10? I'm still rocking an A8 **LMAO in 5fps w/thermal throttling on the side** For the record, I'm currently building a rig around a Mag X570 Mobo, so soon, this pos pc will be put to sleep for good lol.
@adriandumitrescu8117 6 місяців тому
I had a i5 7400 and upgraded to a i7 7700 and it made a huge difference for my pc. It made my pc much more usable and i have no problems with it other than the stock cooler which i changed with a bigger aftermarket one
@technonecroplays 2 роки тому
This is the kind of videos I absolutely love to see on any tech/PC gaming channel. PC gaming is not about buying the most expensive parts and creating a flashy looking setup at your house. Sure go ahead and do that if you can afford it. But, I really find more joy bringing back an older PC to life. Buy older hardware for dirt cheap prices, add in an SSD, do a nice clean install of your favorite Linux Distro (or Windows if you absolutely must), find open source software that runs decently on a given system. There are also thousands of games from steam you can choose from that run decently well for your specific hardware combination. My best gaming days were just playing any game I could get my hand on when I was using a Pentium processor 1GB of RAM a 60GB HDD and 128 mb onboard Intel graphics. It was good enough to run some absolute gems like San Andreas, Prince of Persia series, Age of Empires, Dawn of War and this is what got me into gaming and PC building.
@mahirmalde8634 2 роки тому
Rightly said
@Sam_995 2 роки тому
I love how Linus was talking about how everyone including influencers are trying to sell you stuff and then he cut to his sponsor
@armorhide406 2 роки тому
UKposts money isn't reliable and at least it's not misleading
@kaldo8907 2 роки тому
@@ezicarus8216 First, you assume I'm buying anything. Second, reputable youtubers don't do that.
@UltraNoobian 2 роки тому
@@ezicarus8216 there are some less transparent youtubers out there that don't disclose their sponsor even if they are meant to... *Sips can of g-fuel*
@squeeh 2 роки тому
Not sure how you miss it, It's an advertisement... He's not trying to sell you anything, and do you think he actually wants to talk about most of the sponsors?
@jasontodd5206 2 роки тому
@@ezicarus8216 I've never bought anything based on a commercial or UKpostsr's recommendation alone. I use UKposts to tell me about features a product has, and like, airflow and Temps on a case, and if a product might suck. My decisions to buy come from research and reviews, and ability to return if all the honest reviews were shills. Most of what these tech tubers do is for entertainment, they can't survive the UKposts algorithm any other way. LTT gives good info, but it's a company just like any other; has to follow the money to pay the wages and make profit.
@a4channoob Рік тому
i been sooo happy with my performance and reliability of my old x79 setup with 4930k OC to 4.5ghz, that i recently upgraded my office and shop computers with the same setup for super cheap from ebay. almost 10 years old and still kickin butt. it is a 6core/12thread cpu tho and i am running 2400 DDR3 RAM
@pietromoopy2010 Рік тому
I bought the 4080 a few days ago and it was a huge performance increase. I have an I7 6700k, it runs fine 95% of the time well above 60fps@1440p, but if there are a bunch of NPC's on screen it will dip to around 57-50fps. I will upgrade it eventually, but not right now because that also means motherboard, memory, cooling and windows 11 and after spending $1200 on a graphics card and $100 on a new case to fit said graphics card it just seems like a bit much to do all at once.
@ZomBSlayer1017 Рік тому
Bro I’m on i5 6600k so far it’s Ight for the games I play but I remember playing Star Wars fallen order it did drop frames but it dealt with it
@fudgebucket21 10 місяців тому
I have a 6950k. And upgraded from a 1070ti to a 3070ti recently and haven't seen any performance increase in games, still have to run on all low to get 90-120fps in newer games 🥲 guess I need a new cpu
@couriersix2443 2 роки тому
I miss my legendary i7-2600k. When I still had my old setup, it did really well with my RX 580. And it OC'ed like a freaking champ. 4.5ghz all day on air.
@main_tak_becus6689 2 роки тому
That pc was still better than what most people have, including console gamers.
@DaiAtlus79 2 роки тому
im still running the non K version in my main gaming rig with a 1060 3gb and 16gb ram, plus i have the i7 2600 S in my HTPC with a 4gb 640sp version of the rx 550. still champs today!
@jdocgaming474 2 роки тому
I am currently typing this comment on an i5 2500k OC as well. This and the 2600k were really beast in their day and mine is still proudly kickin' ass and takin names. That said, my gaming rig is an i7 7700k build which was also beast for its day, imo. Both rock solid but I only really game on the 7700k with a 1080Ti. I wont be building a new Rig until I see the new architecture lineup for both Intel and AMD. That and assuming I can ever get my hands on an EVGA FTW3 3080 at MSRP (which will likely not happy anytime soon).
@Squire9990 2 роки тому
@@jdocgaming474 used to have an old 2500k that I OCd. Was such a good CPU. I upgraded to an i7 9700k and it was a very nice upgrade (and a 3060ti).
@reuben-rt 2 роки тому
I still am running a 2600k clocked at 4.3 all core for the last 5 years or so (it can run higher, but not without injecting additional voltage which is likely to degrade it over extended time). It holds back my 980ti but only marginally in select games. No problems with modern games at reasonable settings.
@CoolJosh3k 2 роки тому
Really wish they had compared with disabling some cores, just to see how much newer CPUs actually make use of the extra cores.
@Olivia-W 2 роки тому
HW Unboxed did a piece on this, and the results were that cache size was most of the effect. Ryzens all have the same cache per core complex, whereas Intel CPUs have more cache as you get higher up the stack. So it's not that much the cores (more than 6, anyway), it's the cache size. *And, while this was unstated, this is valid within one generation of processors. Architecture and production node changes also have a large effect cross generation.
@Le_Mon9 2 роки тому
@@Olivia-W yep its on their cpu scaling video.
@grunt7684 2 роки тому
I mine Monero on my Ryzen 9 5950X. With many games, I can mine on 24 threads (instead of the full 32, but getting about 90%-95% of the hashrate) while playing a game and still get 100% performance in that game. On the flip side, some games simply REFUSE to run correctly if I have anything else running on even a few cores. Even mining on 8 threads and setting the process priority to IDLE simply destroys the game's performance. Hell Let Loose and Heroes & Generals are two examples of this. And then there is my beloved Star Ruler 2 game, which successfully loads my 32 threads to 100% utilization. This, obviously, is a major exception to the general rules expressed in this video. I am eagerly awaiting more games that will let my kick-ass CPU shine. Other than that, the unused cores are still doing something useful... =D
@saricubra2867 2 роки тому
@@Olivia-W It depends on the architecture too, cache isn't the only thing. Watch Comet Lake beating Zen 2 in games. Intel's Ring Bus architecture always has been better for games and efficient with cache since Sandy Bridge.
@saricubra2867 2 роки тому
@@grunt7684 It's Windows 10's awful scheduler. On my 8 year old i7-4700MQ (4 core 8 thread) at 3.4GHz OC, i play one of my musical proyects in real time (Ableton Live) and Windows 10 doesn't know that i run an extremely latency sensitive process... I launch Firefox and the audio has glitched clicks and other garbage until Firefox is ready for use. This is fixed with the "set affinity option" but i would like a well optimized OS in the first place. Alder Lake will fix this annoying thing on hardware with Thread Director, things like that are massive for me since Windows has a lot of flawed Kernel and bloat BS.
@givmetehsucc Рік тому
i recently upgraded my i7 3770 to a i5 11400 because i got a killer deal on one, and there was a nice boost in performance, but not nearly as much as i was expecting.
@tomaszzalewski4541 Рік тому
Laughs in still using I3-7100
@reubenmorris487 11 місяців тому
@@tomaszzalewski4541 Still on a used i7-7700K.
@RTDragonCommando 2 роки тому
My personal PC is still running an i5 3550, and I found my limiting factor was ram long before my CPU. I can still play modern (properly optimized) games maxed at 1080p on my RX 580, but I had to go up to 16gb of DDR3 1600 about two years ago, 8gb was just not enough these days and some games started stuttering.
@kennethleuta3327 2 роки тому
Linus: is 4 cores still enough? Me with 2 cores: *sad laggy noises*
@joshuahulce5630 2 роки тому
yep, my laptop with a t7200 core2duo and dedicated gpu can hardly even play youtube videos anymore.
@user-yz5fi6xp4w 2 роки тому
me too , with Ice Lake U 2c 4t cpu (;_;)
@metaparalysis3441 2 роки тому
-linux time-
@joelcrafter43 2 роки тому
Honestly not sure why it's a question if 4 cores is still enough, I mean unless you've got like a 3070 or something then yeah of course it's enough.
@Podzall 2 роки тому
Ah same boat here, i3 2120 go Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
@LonelySandwich 2 роки тому
Me:"wow i can still play all games" My 2600k: Burning in intel fire
@Prshfh 2 роки тому
first
@Joker-no1fz 2 роки тому
bro you are making good money on youtube go upgrade jesus.
@kaldo8907 2 роки тому
@@Joker-no1fz How much are they making?
@ultragalacticgamer7195 2 роки тому
@@Joker-no1fz 2600k is still not that bad
@gamingglatiator69 2 роки тому
I have a i7 2600 and im happy with it
@WiiUniverse 9 місяців тому
I was using a 4 core ryzen 3 3200g up until earlier this year and it worked just fine and ran all the games I wanted at around 1080p60 at medium settings paired with an rx 580 8gb, only ran into unplayable games with VR on Quest 2, but it could handle an older 1440p WMR headset. Only switched to a 2700X and 5700XT this year so i could play games at high settings and 90+ fps lol
@Nalianna Рік тому
Man, tech is amazing. Seeing Linus talk about second hand CPU for $100, then realising that my brand new CPU was close to that. (a year after this video was filmed, granted)
@seireiart 2 роки тому
"Are 4 Cores still enough?!" For my needs (which are making digital art). Yes. It is.
@Depl0rable10 2 роки тому
Depending on what you mean by digital art but most things dont need too many cores tbh
@1SmokedTurkey1 2 роки тому
For most people most of them time they're more than enough.
@seireiart 2 роки тому
@@Depl0rable10 Oh. I didn't make that clear. By digital art, I mean drawing and painting. And 4 Cores are more than enough for the job.
@Octavio_Jorge 2 роки тому
@@seireiart agree
@rc2k524 2 роки тому
me doing 3d modelling and rendering with 4 cores and pc almost reaching sun temps: its great!
@xxmutegodxx 2 роки тому
*Linus: Is 4 Cores still enough?* *School: hehe i'll pretend i did not watch this and buy celerons for our students.*
@frankens43 2 роки тому
School = budget minded. Celerons run cool.. he didn’t even consider the electricity consumed on unused cores. Generic web browsing.. typing reports… celeries are perfect. but….. gaming.. schools DONT WANT GAMING. Laptops… amazing battery life for lower core count.
@alidan 2 роки тому
@@frankens43 they run like hell. let me put it this way, take the lowest performance device you would consider your emergency backup incase shit hit the fan, and then imagine it running 10x worse. THAT is a school computer.
@xxmutegodxx 2 роки тому
@@alidan i opened a single Happy Wheels tab on my school PC and it lag as hell (eats all 4GB ram)
@alidan 2 роки тому
@Viztiz oh fuck no those aren't in my school we had a singular compute that was not crap, and that was the imac in the graphics room, every other computer was using a crt that's 15+ years old at a time when you couldn't even buy crts anymore, the computers were an absolute nightmare to even load up and browse a plain html page much less the programs that the school wanted you to use on them. picture this, a kid who can't even type 20 words a minute out passing the computer ability to input the words in word, these things are absolutely fucking decrepit and are not fit for purpose, given my purpose was namely cad/'research' for assignments/and photoshop for another class. my god, those things still come up in nightmares reminding me how bad computers are able to run.
@lateral1385 2 роки тому
Celeron 4 Lyfe!!
@TheDiWhyGuy 10 місяців тому
I edit all my 4k videos on a i7 7700k I found the biggest cause of lag was not the CPU but the storage device, editing everything on a M.2Nvme drive with GPU acceleration on makes it very usable so hopefully I can get a few more years out of it as it cost to much to upgrade these days...
@wotography 6 місяців тому
Sounds good! Whats your gpu?
@TheDiWhyGuy 6 місяців тому
@@wotography RTX 3080 ti goes well mate
@wotography 6 місяців тому
@@TheDiWhyGuy nice! are you on a 1151 socket? And whats the pcie version of the slot where the gpu sits? I’m asking so many questions cause I’ve got a mainboard with this socket, and want to know if a gpu with pcie 4.0 will have a bottleneck on my older motherboard.
@TheDiWhyGuy 6 місяців тому
@@wotography sweet as buddy ask away, yes its LGA 1151 with PCIe V3. It does well for gaming but defiantly would get a bump in performance from something newer, but as everything I play runs 2k 144fps+ same as my screen I'm happy to keep it longer. Ps even Starfield gets 60-100fps 2k high settings...
@jeffro503 2 роки тому
I'm still rocking my 2600K @4.5mhz. It is starting to show it's age with some of these newer titles though. Really considering building a new AMD system ( 5900X or something like that? ) this next spring. I may keep running my AMD R9 Fury for another year or two though , until these GPU prices ever come down!!
@youtubeshadowbannedme 2 роки тому
uh there were games from like 2018 that started to require beyond 4C/8T for good performance
@snickle1980 2 роки тому
Well, I was "future proofing" with my 10 cores. I have about 6 years to find a game that makes use of them. I think some of the obscure indie physics games might.
@wolfshanze5980 2 роки тому
I think having 10 cores in 2021 is about as useful as having 5 cores in 2016... It's better than 8, just like 5 is better than 4... but it's just an oddball one-off, I don't think 10 cores will ever be utilized the way you hope it will. I think 8 cores is the new 4 cores, and will be for awhile... I think by the time 8 cores isn't enough for most people, 16 cores will be the new standard. I really think having 10 cores in 2021 is like having 5 cores in 2016... it's just a goofy number that will never be a standard.
@0xszander0 2 роки тому
By the time you can properly utilize those 10 cores. New cpu ipc/cache and ddr5 get systems so much faster your system still might feel somewhat dated. Futureproofing often isn't worth it. Only maybe till a certain extent.
@user-yz8do8vu1s 2 роки тому
@@wolfshanze5980 I think core counts would stop increasing. More cores you have more delays and spaghetti mess. This is the reason ryzens doing better at games than threadrippers.
@i-is-charles8225 2 роки тому
@@wolfshanze5980 right now 6 cores is the new 4 cores
@pronewbofficial 2 роки тому
I don't play a wide variety of games, but 2 of my games (Anno 1800 and Battlefield 1) use all 16 threads of my CPU. Back when I built my PC, people said nothing more than a quad core was necessary. I can't believe people are still saying that. Sure, a quad core can work. My dad's old 4690k with a good OC is still good for most 120 FPS gaming. However, game engines have caught up with the times and will use the extra cores. They didn't in 2014, but they do in 2021.
@YouSuckAtTag 2 роки тому
I would love to see a video of the older quad cores overclocked and benched against their newer counterparts (6700k owner here) Edit: to show what kind of performance longevity overclocking an older system would bring
@TheOgre 2 роки тому
Still running a 4790k overclocked since I bought it just a few months after it's release. Holds up well today in almost all but the most intensive tasks. Even then, it does fine, just falls short from modern CPUs with literally more than double the cores and architectural improvements
@flandrble 2 роки тому
Will get annihilated by a current gen Core i3 which can be often had for less money brand new than a used older quad core.
@firestar-kr5iw 2 роки тому
same here, so far I haven't had any problems with my 6700k, which is overclocked to 4.9, 4.7, 4.6, 4.6 on the different cores respectfully. I'm a broke college kid, so this will have to do me for another couple years.
@ShogoKawada123 2 роки тому
I have an i7-4790K running a 47x core / 44x uncore OC plus 16GB DDR3-2400 at custom 10-10-12-31 timings, and lastly all the Spectre and Meltdown mitigations manually disabled, and I get results that are a LOT better overall than those of the i7-4770K in this video.
@memememine1 2 роки тому
@mstrbkr Absolutley. I bought a 4770k on release date. For the past many years it's been slow and stuttering. For how old it was I didn't mind because it had already given me many years of service but whenever I saw my friends newer desktops and even laptops I knew it was the cpu holding me back. At no point did I think it was "just as good" I upgraded to a 5600x. But between my new rendering and sim work and star citizen the 5600x is pinned past 90% for like half the day lmao.
@joewerner7067 11 місяців тому
Working on upgrading a pre build I found that will support all of the budget hardware I’m looking at. Haven’t gotten a gpu yet so for now just gaming with a 12th gen i3 quad core supported by 32gb of ddr4. Performance is surprising for what it is, GTA V is probably the most demanding game I play at the moment and it runs pretty consistent on 50fps at 900p. Not the best in the world but definitely better than I was prepared for on integrated graphics
@Ian_Durr 2 роки тому
My P50 Lenovo has been kicking ass. The computer has heavy work loads, I am a professional engineer, half way through my masters degree in mechanical engineering, and conduct molecular simulations. With the demands I place on this rig it still works well…. I run SolidWorks, MatLab, Simulink, LAMMPS, VMD, and many more. I understand gaming and content creators have different needs. Also, I use a HPC when I need 1000’s of Gigs for large molecular simulations. I would enjoy more videos for STEM. Thanks Linus Tech Tips!
@AHhfnovnkfn 2 роки тому
Can't wait for the next video "Is 16 cores still enough?" Might be as good as this video
@shanedoesyoutube8001 2 роки тому
Yeesh... What future game will run on more than 16???
@AHhfnovnkfn 2 роки тому
@@shanedoesyoutube8001 dont know but give it a couple years and they will have to make that video
@React2Quick 2 роки тому
Wouldn't it be 6 or 8 cores before they jump all the way to 16?
@AHhfnovnkfn 2 роки тому
@@React2Quick nah were not making a series yet
@shanedoesyoutube8001 2 роки тому
@@React2Quick either that or OP was imagining further into the future than you thought
@AgusLivio 2 роки тому
Loved this video! I´m from Argentina and tech prices are steep over here... It´s good to know that there´s no need to buy super expensive rigs to play the games we all love.
@CarlosLins1 2 роки тому
I feel you south American brother
@khulanisibeko 2 роки тому
It's the same in south Africa
@tiagodelgreco6655 2 роки тому
Vamooo argentinaaaaa Inflacion inflacion inflaciooooonnnn
@MowerModdin Рік тому
I'm curious to see how these old 4 core flagship CPUs (Haswell, Skylake from Intel) face off against the newer budget 6 core CPUs (Ryzen 5 5600 and Intel Core i5 12400F)
@MelodyGoad 9 місяців тому
The newer 6 cores absolutely stomp even a 7700k into the fucking dirt. Even a Ryzen 3 3300X was on par with the 7700K.
@infinity9821 2 роки тому
just saw this video, I bought myself a 3300x in may as i only use my pc for light work and mostly gaming, and damn i had my doubts but now im so glad i have it, Id pay for something more powerful i wouldnt actually need, thanks for this linus
@drachna 2 роки тому
I sort of love LTT's ads tbh. They clearly realise that most of their viewers use adblock, and that they probably don't watch the ad at the end of the video, and so the ads they do roll are never too long or annoying (and are obviously easily skippable.).
@psycronizer 2 роки тому
I'm sick to death it, it's corny, annoying, and is forcing me to watch other guys stuff.
@drachna 2 роки тому
@@psycronizer Hey, it's not that hard to double tap the screen twice, as the ads that roll just before the intro are always about 10 seconds long.
@tasnimulsarwar9189 2 роки тому
@Enchanted Goose same. I'm even willing to watch ad that isn't included in the video just so LTT can continue to be so awesome and resourceful.
@psycronizer 2 роки тому
@Enchanted Goose me ? I just immediately hit the fast forward even if I miss up to 30 seconds of normal content, that's how much I hate it, because, heres the thing, I'm a 51 year old cranky, salty old bastard who will NEVER, EVER EVER EVER, be influenced by ANY adverts, I will buy what I want, when the need arises, and NEVER because some ad tells me to. I am not, like most people, not the kind to upgrade anything just because something better comes along, it invariably NEVER is justified, I will only buy something after I have done research off this site, by looking at specs, reviews, feedback, and , price. NEVER stupid annoying advertising
@psycronizer 2 роки тому
you are obviously very young, wait till you get to 50 and they will absolutely PISS YOU OFF
@TheAlaskaAdam 2 роки тому
"You don't have to buy any thing!" "Buy this thing from our sponsor!!!"
@doctordothraki4378 2 роки тому
1:00 And yes, I appreciate the irony
@DTD1233 2 роки тому
He isn't telling you that you "need" his sponsor's product, and he even acknowledged the irony immediately after the end of the quote you selected. Fishing for likes is real.
@navidmehdi6 2 роки тому
It's a code message
@TheAlaskaAdam 2 роки тому
@@DTD1233 IT WAS A JOKE DUDE
@DTD1233 2 роки тому
@@TheAlaskaAdam that's a pretty smart backpedal.
@xxlordxx6862 2 роки тому
I still rock my i7 4770K, it had a problem with thermal throttling recently but that was resolved and by removing that old intel stock cooler and slapping a new Noctua NH-D15 onto it and performs as good as new
@rochester212 2 роки тому
I want an I7, but except for video editing the I3 6100 that i have is more than enough for any multitasking and gaming i do on it. As for portables, a 2nd or 3rd gen I5 is still great for all the things people normally do on a laptop. The problem with these machines are not the cpus, but ram/hdd upgradabilty and being able to find replacement motherboards when they fail. If the MB continues to work these older computers can still be used for the foreseeable future.
@Korv_Stroganoff 2 роки тому
I felt personally attacked when he said "I mean it sure is easy to show you what a piece of crap your old 4770k is" @ 1:40
@vezeveer 2 роки тому
I mean that CPU is now what? 7 years old now?
@ShinyMooTank 2 роки тому
I recently upgraded from a i7-4770(non k) a few months ago and now I have a Ryzen 9 5900x... I'm not upgrading my PC for the next 5 to 7 years. Haha
@KryssN1 2 роки тому
The joke is on those who upgrade CPU more often than GPU for gaming. Been building PCs since 2004, my schematics is to upgrade GPU, Monitor and Audio foremost for gaming. Gives you best bang for the bucks, never failed me. I upgrade my GPU every new architecture and CPU usually every other console generation. While my friends upgrade CPU cause of AM4 every 2 years now. One my friends even gone from Zen 1 to Zen 2 to Zen 3, still having GTX 1060 6GB. I prefer my 3060Ti with the 4770K for gaming and I get double his fps.
@ShinyMooTank 2 роки тому
@@KryssN1 This year I went from I7-4770, GTX 645, 12Gb of ram to Ryzen 9 5900x, RTX 3080, 32gb of ram. I definitely won't be upgrading for 5 years or when next gen consoles drop. These specs should play about anything in high settings without RTX at 144fps.
@ShinyMooTank 2 роки тому
@@KryssN1 Agree CPU is usually the last thing that gets upgraded even consoles have a very weak CPU on the APU.
@mudman1 2 роки тому
I upgraded my cpu from 2 core 4 threads to 4 core 4 threads. Loading times improved on my games. I was also lucky to get a 1650 at Christmas. Very nice 1080 machine.
@amane2254 2 роки тому
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@fanprocar 9 місяців тому
I’ve got a motherboard with an i5 3550 Quad core ,Quad threaded ,8GB of RAM and I installed a GTX 1050 Ti. I am using this with a 1080p monitor and I haven’t had any problems by now.
@michubern1444 7 місяців тому
Always depends what u are used too
@chloesilverwolf739 Рік тому
I will just say i use an i5 7600K and there are some games i have issues streaming like rainbow 6 siege because it is optimised to use 4 cores and that means a lot of the time with OBS running as well my CPU maxes out and a start to drop a lot of frames
@lancemiller9803 2 роки тому
Linus has finally gone with the clearly superior default Microsoft wallpaper
@benjaminoechsli1941 2 роки тому
Nah, he had the default earlier. He just finally got around to upgrading from XP to 10. ... Right before 11 releases. lol
@theWajahat 2 роки тому
I have done Blender 3D work on a 3 GHz Core 2 Duo, 4GB DDR3, 500GB hard drive equipped machine. One project was modelling a real metal bridge to scale and the other was a short animation which involved a cloth simulation. And to be honest, it was workable. It didn't give smooth viewport views in render view, but I did get the work done in the end.
@mr0o 2 роки тому
Core 2 Quad Q6600 gang
@davidy22 2 роки тому
I'm doing video editing on a ten year old laptop. It's a little ass sometimes, but I can still crank stuff out.
@LloydLynx 2 роки тому
I'm still using a laptop with a C2D T7200 2Ghz with 4Gb RAM, and I agree it's completely workable for what I need.
@kurnikov613 2 роки тому
If you do a rendering task like video editing, photo editing, blender it should be fine on older hardware but you need to be patient
@Robo-xk4jm 2 роки тому
my 3060 asus laptop has a i7-11370H with only 4 cores. it sucks when trying to play a game at max settings when some of those settings are cpu intensive, for example hitman says that it recommends at least 6 cores for best simulation quality but those 4 cores are pretty optimized so it works well enough
@jeffreyheisel6159 2 роки тому
My OC'd i7 2700k is still chugging just fine today. Rig has only had SSD and GPU upgrades since 2011(2012?). Every game I play I easily pull enough frames etc and general daily use are smooth.
@jfrohne 2 роки тому
"Is a quad core enough?" Me, rocking my dual core, 4 thread i5 5200U Thinkpad... And my ADHD having 20 Tabs, 15 Programms open..
@Muhluri 2 роки тому
Thinkpad gang!
@thanhavictus 2 роки тому
Thinkpad master race
@johnthemannn 2 роки тому
can confirm
@B-rad1 2 роки тому
Basically any 3rd gen and up dual core i5 is still completely adequate from a performance standpoint. 4th gen was quite a bit more efficient though. I'd imagine your Thinkpad gets a bit toasty.
@GD-tt6hl 2 роки тому
Pentium anniversary edition G3258... Yeah, I'm a little behind
@blackzaru 2 роки тому
You forgot to mention that some of those old CPUs (like the 4770K you are using) have some good overclocking headroom. Heck, you could have even linked them to one of your overclokcing guide for some additional sweet view time! Seriously, old CPUs have a ton of headroom, some up to 20%, to OC, it's really a non-negligible point.
@jasonoutman420 2 роки тому
My 6700k is at 4.8 also, though I will be upgrading to either alder lake or zen 4.
@Sup_D 2 роки тому
Been using 4770 for 7+ years now, along with 8GB DDR3 and "no" dedicated GPU.
@johnmadsen37 Рік тому
I have a 2700k from over a decade ago. It’s running at 4.27 on all cores. I also got some various Ryzen 5 4700U and 4800H and a ryzen 7 -- more cores is nice but the old cpu is just as fast and faster if I load by staring up multiple VMs at once (for fun). But, the pcie ssd is 5-6x faster than sata along with usb c IO … these mini pc beelink are tiny and are now my VM servers and workstation. I run 3. Such low power and low heat and a small footprint. But, fileservers still need large sas drives - I run 12x8 TB Sas HGST enterprise.
@Pileot 2 роки тому
The I5 4770k was what I was using this time last year. Oof. I had to update because typically I'd be running multiple windows in chrome and streaming youtube and things kept lagging or sputtering. Maybe if I had the hyperthreaded i7 it might have lasted longer but.... it was time to change.
@Nin-Bread 2 роки тому
"The old, crappy quad-core PC you already have is good enough" >Has a dual core >Games refuse to run on fewer than 4 cores >gpu broke last year Thanks Linus, I sure feel better now.
@user-yz8do8vu1s 2 роки тому
just, buy a r7 360 and fx 6300 mobo ram set. There ya go cheap ass gaming setup that can do 1080p30 on low.
@Jacotomo2222 2 роки тому
same
@Guru_1092 2 роки тому
God though same here. Being poor sucks amiright?
@miciso666 2 роки тому
some games dont use or even care about multithreading. my older pc runs tarkov a new game BETTER than my newer rig... just because it has less cores running higher rates? or something. i told my friend who works at IT and he told me tarkov an unity game barely uses multi. nor does it care about hyperthreads. so yes that older pc motherboard/cpu runs better... not nicer because it still has a 750 and my newer rig has a 2060. also some games i still own from before run way shittier on newer cpus. because it gives to much power.
@anb1142 2 роки тому
bruh those exact same things happened to me
@InventorZahran 2 роки тому
For anyone who needs to compile their software from source code, having more CPU cores will drastically accelerate the process.
@wepted 2 роки тому
Install gentoo B)
@cobaltno51 2 роки тому
doubt that this is the target audience
@GamersUniverseOE 2 роки тому
_laughs in TCC with script level compilation speeds_
@frankens43 2 роки тому
My dos apps run soooo fast on a dual core machine……. So fast that I thought they failed until I realized they had finished the moment it clicked enter.
@C4Oc. 2 роки тому
How much faster? Is it like going from 4 to 6 cores will get at least a 33% speed improvement?
@Mr.Korzack Рік тому
I know hindsight with purchases is always perfect (I'm aware we avoid 20/20 after the last time) but nowadays between more readily available older classics, indie releases and tech like FSR and DLSS been so readily available I'm really glad I paired my 4790K and 2060 2 years Ago when I did. Should be able to handle damn near anything the industry throws at it n low settings for at Least 5 years yet maybe even 10, and when it can't anymore... That's 30 plus years of gaming history to revel in, plus sourceports, mods and the like. I'm in no rush
@Dash64_png Рік тому
I feel like with the inclusion of the 6700k, they also should have had the most reasonable upgrade for it, the i5 9400f. A budget 6 core upgrade to compete with ryzen.
@AdamSalehx 2 роки тому
And me with 2 cores set up😬
@-Scrapper- 2 роки тому
Yeah sure buddy
@gildedinvestments9628 2 роки тому
Peasant
@tyleyden8695 2 роки тому
Screw these haters ^^ Bro you should just get a 4 core 8 thread that's compatible with your motherboard. What cpu are you running?
@OldManBOMBIN 2 роки тому
G4560 crew rep
@histrigaming7344 2 роки тому
My Notebook has a r3 3200u and runs fine
@piplup10203854 2 роки тому
I’m really glad that this video is out here because it definitely makes me feel better about having a much more budget friendly build I could go for. I don’t really play that many games ☺️
@wanaan 2 роки тому
Build for your budget and your tasks. With that said, I have a 450bucks pc that plays all games just fine and had been a boon for my work from home. But I still envy my friends with their 5000dollars PC setup playing on top of the line 4K big screen TV. The graphics is drop dead gorgeous.
@piplup10203854 2 роки тому
@@wanaan Thank you! I I would love to have something high or even mid tier but it just isn't feasible for me to spend that much, but it's nice to know I can still get something that works for me :D
@iury862 2 роки тому
With gaming on PCs, you either get informed on what you need to buy or you get scammed in buying overpriced hardware.
@tabnaaknews1644 2 роки тому
really?!!! those games that he tested was older than 6700k cpu!!!
@piplup10203854 2 роки тому
@@iury862 ah, go figure. I haven't been involved in the pc space for a very long time so I'm not up to date on everything but it really does seem to be that way, especially during these recent times when people are relying and needing PC's more than ever.
@superpie64 Рік тому
I currently daily drive a Ryzen 5 3400G with a GTX 1050 Ti and 16GB RAM and its been able to run everything i throw at it pretty comfortably. Definitely an upgrade over what I was using just a month ago, a Dell Latitude E5530 with 8GB RAM and a Core i3 3120M
@ShakeyVaccy 2 роки тому
This makes me feel a whole lot better about building the kids a quad core system for Christmas, as given how out of whack part prices are at present (over the moon to get a GTX1650 at a 2 year old RRP!) it represented by far the best value at half the price of the nearest 6 core processor.
@The23rdGamer Рік тому
Extremely kind and thoughtful of you. Hopefully the kids appreciate the opportunity they're given!
@Ken_neThT 2 роки тому
I love that Windows 10 wallpaper Linus edit they did lmao
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