Is the GeForce RTX 4070 SUPER FASTER than an RTX 3090? | GeForce Fact or Fiction

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Welcome to GeForce Fact or Fiction, where we take questions from PC gamers and creators and attempt to answer if they are fact or fiction. On this fact or fiction we find out if a GeForce RTX 4070 SUPER is indeed faster than an RTX 3090!
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@kavthegamer
@kavthegamer 2 місяці тому
Next up will be “Is the RTX 5070 faster then a 4070” coming in 6 months
@MakeSh00t
@MakeSh00t 2 місяці тому
only for 20 fps...
@njboieddyg5648
@njboieddyg5648 2 місяці тому
6 months?! 😂 My brother you're being to generous to them, Nivida dropping their new 50 series next week.
@t0ogamrz235
@t0ogamrz235 2 місяці тому
​@@MakeSh00t 20 fps for the same price, I'm going for the 5070 ;)
@Jac70
@Jac70 2 місяці тому
From what I have seen 5xxx series might not release until Q2 2025 but at this point I expect no one outside Nvidia actually knows.
@Krenisphia
@Krenisphia 2 місяці тому
Historically the 70 class card compares to the flagship of the previous generation. However in the case of the 5070, I doubt it can surpass the 4090 since it has a much bigger gap between the 4070 and itself, where as with the 3090 it wasn't as big compared to the 3070.
@soulsolis3096
@soulsolis3096 2 місяці тому
Never listen to sellers more than actual reviewers
@Bucketnate
@Bucketnate 2 місяці тому
I was gonna say the opposite. Some "influencer" has no place telling people on the Internet what to do
@soulsolis3096
@soulsolis3096 2 місяці тому
@@Bucketnate In that case, no one should listen to anyone, just buy product and wait until you realized you're disappointed or not.
@iamsalvofps
@iamsalvofps 2 місяці тому
Influencer and reviewer are not the same
@soulsolis3096
@soulsolis3096 2 місяці тому
@@iamsalvofps Did I said they were? I don't think so
@iamsalvofps
@iamsalvofps 2 місяці тому
@@soulsolis3096 my reply was meant for @Bucketnate, not you
@RageNukes
@RageNukes 2 місяці тому
Reminder that a GTX 980 4GB released in 2014 at an MSRP of $550, which adjusted for inflation is $680 in 2022 dollars. An RTX 4080 16GB released in 2022 at an MSRP of $1200. That is over 76% greater than the inflation adjusted price for the same class of product.
@Plague_Doc22
@Plague_Doc22 2 місяці тому
Not arguing that it's overpriced, but you cant do direct comparisons like these because there's plenty of factors that have given costs increases...especially during and after covid.
@MLTAKOS
@MLTAKOS 2 місяці тому
@@Plague_Doc22 its as simple as Nvidia brought the prices up a tier and got us adjusted. Just imagine lets say a good msrp of a 4080 would be 800 imo and if they did that it would be scalped as hell because it would be considered too low and the profits would go to scalpers instead of nvidia so it makes sense for them to have huge prices and they did it on purpose to increase dem PROFITSS🤡
@CookieAntonio
@CookieAntonio 2 місяці тому
The 3080 released for $699 MSRP. The 4080 super has around the same, if not better value than the critically acclaimed great-for-value 3080. Sure, 4080/90 was pretty expensive because nvidia was still on cloud 9 thinking they would sell out instantly, but the super refresh shows they're back to their senses.
@RageNukes
@RageNukes 2 місяці тому
@@Plague_Doc22 Look at the financials. Cost of goods sold as a pecent of net sales was 45% in 2014, in 2022 it was 35%. EBITDA margin was 18% in 2014, in 2022 it was 42%. Costs are not the reason for the price increases.
@PhaseSkater
@PhaseSkater 2 місяці тому
You should really see how much inflation has gone up from 2022-2024 lol. It’s insane!
@PS50065
@PS50065 2 місяці тому
and 4070 super stil have 12gb vram at 192 bits instead of 16gb vram at 256bits
@atenleggedninja
@atenleggedninja 2 місяці тому
clock speeds ftw
@Kahunaseb
@Kahunaseb 2 місяці тому
Stuttering fest
@darkgamingbro
@darkgamingbro 2 місяці тому
7700 xt is 192 bit and 12gb and that's a fine card yk
@jayceneal5273
@jayceneal5273 2 місяці тому
12 is fine
@AdaptacionGamer
@AdaptacionGamer 2 місяці тому
well, then buy the RTX 4070 Ti SUPER, it has 16GB of VRAM and more power
@chupitolepame5357
@chupitolepame5357 2 місяці тому
Thanks, I will stick to my 3090 and its 24GB of VRAM.
@Tmtrnr
@Tmtrnr Місяць тому
Literally no game needs 24gb VRAM. I dont get this obsession with VRAM?
@chupitolepame5357
@chupitolepame5357 Місяць тому
@@TmtrnrFuture proof buddy, nothing else
@jm8080ful
@jm8080ful Місяць тому
@@chupitolepame5357 lol even now 4070 super performs better than 3090 even on the most vram hungry titles so your "futurepooping" excuse doesn't work, even 12gb vs 16gb vram doesn't make that much performance improvements; see 4070ti vs 4070ti super
@thomaswright1657
@thomaswright1657 Місяць тому
“Futureproofing” is a term used to deny buyers remorse.
@chupitolepame5357
@chupitolepame5357 Місяць тому
@@jm8080fulthat depends in only if you use your graphics card for gaming, not my case! I need those 24GB for rendering
@Dirt33breaks
@Dirt33breaks 2 місяці тому
A few specificly chosen games only.
@josejuanandrade4439
@josejuanandrade4439 2 місяці тому
What if i play games that DO NOT support DLSS? Or i simply don't want to use re-scalating methods?
@pablo3558
@pablo3558 2 місяці тому
when is racer rtx demo?
@heytraile
@heytraile 2 місяці тому
Ok, why not test it in GPU rendering with engines like Redshift and Arnold also? you guys do great work here, but keep in mind that a large portion of the customer base that buys these cards are not only playing games but also use it in production work. Please, I'd love a comparison of the 3090 and 4070 super in offline rendering to see how that goes.
@theloniuspunk383
@theloniuspunk383 2 місяці тому
you already know, its about 30% slower
@CLE1HALO3
@CLE1HALO3 2 місяці тому
whens the the 5000 series dropping?
@thedigitaljedi3243
@thedigitaljedi3243 2 місяці тому
Lovelace is a more efficient and less power hungry chip than Ampere. You should test the 3090 with the Framegen file. The results were very impressive.
@1ch0
@1ch0 2 місяці тому
Let's be honest, taking the prices for VRAM into account, for the price of a 4070, there should be 16 GB VRAM. But that would make the 4070 too capable for too long, right? Nvidia does not want that. :D
@thomaswright1657
@thomaswright1657 Місяць тому
Oh child, it’s called a business.
@thecatdaddy1981
@thecatdaddy1981 2 місяці тому
This is all fun and memes until you try games that saturate the lousy memory bandwidth the 4070S has with it's 192-bit bus, let alone HALF of the memory capacity. "When we turn on frame generation, the performance really ramps up" - This is such deceptive marketing, or even straight up lying by saying FG gives "extra performance".
@MaiCoLe6879
@MaiCoLe6879 2 місяці тому
Make a clip about the nvda geforce experience software having a recording error [A Supported game is required to use this feature] on a gaming laptop, admin. Many times my gaming laptop has this software error. I need a way to fix it.
@quidnunc01
@quidnunc01 2 місяці тому
The problem with comparing frame generation on vs off is frame generation doesn't noticeably improve the responsiveness of inputs, so it feel pretty much like playing at the lower frame rate. And the tradeoff of frame generation, particularly at the base frame rates here is that while the visuals look more smooth the tradeoff is noticeable artifacts e.g. they are particularly bad in games like Jedi Survivor which can have big frame time spikes. That is if the game has frame time spikes it may be more enjoyable to just play with it off. It's most useful for games that are approaching solid 60 without big drops - that's not the case for some of the games there.
@commanderoof4578
@commanderoof4578 2 місяці тому
It cant ever improve inputs only ever make them worse by withholding a frame required to be used to generate the next one
@theloniuspunk383
@theloniuspunk383 2 місяці тому
also all the games are uninspired multikulti trash
@jayceneal5273
@jayceneal5273 2 місяці тому
If the game is slower paced, like in portal rtx or Alan wake 2, it works fairly well. Even if it isn't actually performing better, it does sort of give the illusion of better performance with more fluid motion. I would say even going from 30 to 60 could be doable if you use a controller for a decent experience . Of course it's all subjective. Some people insist you need a base frame rate of 120+ before flipping it on, and some insist against it entirely. In truth it's just a tool to use strategically, often to max out to your monitors refresh rate, for games that it'll play nicely with
@quidnunc01
@quidnunc01 2 місяці тому
@@jayceneal5273 it depends on not just the average performance but also the extremes. For example Plague Tale Requiem is slow paced in a similar way to Alan Wake 2 but with ray tracing enabled there are fairly massive frame time spikes. It can feel smoother at times but then when panning camera there's lots of frame gen artifacts when the complexity of the RT effects are higher. If I wanted to play with RT on I think I would rather just play at 45fps rather than deal with very apparent artifacts (Jedi Survivor is similar, and not because RT, it just has inconsistent performance). It can look smooth in those games until it doesnt.
@jayceneal5273
@jayceneal5273 2 місяці тому
@@quidnunc01 I haven't played that game but I've heard of some similar things happening like that, more so with fsr 3, but yeah it seems to really be a case by case basis of if it's worth turning on. But I think in general it can be a nice setting to have, especially as it gets the kinks more and more ironed out as time goes on
@Samurasa.
@Samurasa. 16 днів тому
The RTX 4070 Super is sometimes equa, better or inferior as a RTX 3080 Ti, but not in the level of RTX 3090
@ArqadeGamer0903
@ArqadeGamer0903 2 місяці тому
Will the app ever release in india?
@erikblackwell9022
@erikblackwell9022 2 місяці тому
What about rendering, for 3D artists?
@bobinou
@bobinou 2 місяці тому
its like comparing apples and bananas, showing the old card without frame gen and the new with frame gen
@darkgamingbro
@darkgamingbro 2 місяці тому
They showed without frame gen too
@konnapoeg
@konnapoeg 2 місяці тому
did you even watch the video... he shows both lol
@mario_gabriel
@mario_gabriel Місяць тому
@@konnapoeg he watched the first second of the first comparison and stopped the video to comment this
@XiovV
@XiovV 16 днів тому
That's correct, but it's still nice to see a direct comparison. Of course the new card with new tech will be faster, but it's nice to see just how much faster it is
@Mr.Atari2600
@Mr.Atari2600 Місяць тому
But is it faster than my 3DFX Voodoo 3 3000 3D Accelerator card?
@AsvinThakur391
@AsvinThakur391 2 місяці тому
From where we can get rtx founders edition in my Country at my country's currency ? Unable to find one ! ❤from 🇮🇳
@sofianeatif5189
@sofianeatif5189 2 місяці тому
This is BS FSR3 frame generation works with all rtx cards and the rtx 3090 has more cores and more bandwidth and more VRAM so that rtx 4070 super makes no sense basically especially if you owe that graphic card no need to swap or to upgrade I made the decision to upgrade my rtx 3060ti to and Rtx 3080 12 GB and trust me it performers neck to neck with the Rtx 4070 not even mentionning that I got it for a very compelling price (400$) and in a very very good condition even with FSR3 frame generation so yeah Rtx 4070 is expensive for no reason now and it's a product that missed it's shot when launched
@thomaswright1657
@thomaswright1657 Місяць тому
Hope it includes free punctuation lessons.
@Ryan_tremaine_klarenbach
@Ryan_tremaine_klarenbach 2 місяці тому
And then fsr 3 frame generation mod comes in 🫵😂 and now rtx 3090 is double the performance
@user-xm4op2yk5o
@user-xm4op2yk5o Місяць тому
I think now NVidia should concentrate on how to improve FG and DLSS quality like ghosting effect and artifacts.
@CannedMarmalade
@CannedMarmalade 2 місяці тому
Here before Gamers Nexus/Hardware Unboxed tear this video apart
@nttinvis
@nttinvis 2 місяці тому
Right
@Chocapic_13
@Chocapic_13 2 місяці тому
Tbf its not that wrong except for the main issue that the 4070 super only has 12GB of vram They may also squeeze 2-3% of extra perf by choosing advantageous games with RT on but thats all
@nttinvis
@nttinvis 2 місяці тому
@Chocapic_13 i have 4070 super i think its decent value but 7900xt is only $100 more and like 18% faster or so
@Chocapic_13
@Chocapic_13 2 місяці тому
@nttinvis 100$ is like 12-14% more expensive depending on where you live You do get slightly better performance/$ in raster and extra memory but FSR is worse than DLSS/DLAA/RR, and RT performance sucks
@Zeeves
@Zeeves 2 місяці тому
GamersNexus will just compare thermals for 45 minutes. He parrots every nvidia-hater trope.
@ishJJx3
@ishJJx3 2 місяці тому
It's amazing that the performance of the 3090 which launched at $1500 MSRP, is being met & exceeded only 1.5 generations later with the 4070 Super at $600 MSRP. Nearly a third of the price for same performance or better, with or without frame gen, is an incredible jump forward!
@mitsuhh
@mitsuhh 2 місяці тому
Until you realise the 3080 almost always was within 5-10% of the 3090 in performance
@ishJJx3
@ishJJx3 2 місяці тому
And then also realize the 3080 was inflated to $1200+ for most of its current-gen lifetime so the comparison isn't valid next to real market prices
@mitsuhh
@mitsuhh 2 місяці тому
@@ishJJx3 Actually the comparison would still be valid whether you like it or not
@leopoldbuttersstotch73
@leopoldbuttersstotch73 2 місяці тому
@@ishJJx3Unless you were smart and waited for a deal like i did and got one for $650.😉
@leopoldbuttersstotch73
@leopoldbuttersstotch73 2 місяці тому
@@mitsuhhDamn right.
@user-ij4ce1kd8s
@user-ij4ce1kd8s 2 місяці тому
lets see how fast it takes before they take down the video
@InfinityNo0b
@InfinityNo0b 2 місяці тому
Umm...Should you not be comparing it in equal grounds? Should you not test it with equal settings and features to show which one is faster? This seems like a big company is afraid to show that a 70-class of nowadays is actually a 60ti-class gpu of previous gens. We are upgrading but backwards.
@GeForce_JacobF
@GeForce_JacobF 2 місяці тому
Video includes both Frame Gen on and off, as shown in video the RTX 4070 SUPER is still faster with Frame Gen off.
@BingBangBrine
@BingBangBrine 2 місяці тому
@@GeForce_JacobFhi
@darkgamingbro
@darkgamingbro 2 місяці тому
60ti cards dont have 90 class performance
@Stefantius
@Stefantius 2 місяці тому
You would sure hope so, right?
@selenanidi
@selenanidi 2 місяці тому
Dicen que ustedes están en la demanda de Yuzu es cierto eso?
@lukeskywalker8107
@lukeskywalker8107 2 місяці тому
Been a long time since I’ve see the Freeman. How’re you doing since leaving EVGA?
@tomast9034
@tomast9034 2 дні тому
4070 looks like a good jump from 1080ti.
@Notjonxx
@Notjonxx 2 місяці тому
Could yall add demo tekken 8 to GeforceNow please
@pertifal2237
@pertifal2237 2 місяці тому
Кожаная куртка, где шина , где объём памяти
@KoMer7
@KoMer7 2 місяці тому
The thing i like the most is how nvidia now poits out that top ampere gpus use so much power but in 2020 (of course before but YKWIM) they decided for the first time in their history to ditch TSMC and go for worse samsungs "N8" getting big discount on wafers and making US the buyers pay for higher electricity. Now they had to go back to TSMC paing more for silicon so they cut it off - die size - of bandwith (thats why vram is low and perf drops at 4K) and still increase the price. 3090 owner here - i play 4K DLSS and i'm happy, for frame gen I have a mod, always ultra textures or moded textures - fill 24GB of VRAM, i dont care I have it soo much. So if the performance of 4070 super is equal or better than 3090 why do you call it a 1440p card ???
@fleabaglane
@fleabaglane 20 днів тому
My 2020 pc 10900K 5.1GHz all cores 32GB DDR4 3000 3090RTX is oc 2120/9850 Great combo for gaming 90+ games from 2010 to 2024 and only 4 games can't max and stay over 120 fps, and most games do 120-130 130 150 165+ for older Not all games are RTX or super hard to run Recently played FH4 118-130 racing Resident Evil 8 2022 or 3 120 150s a RTX game Uncharted 4 remake 2022 130 150+ came with Lost Legacy 2022 does 120 130fps The newest Sherlock Holmes game is from 2022 or 3 does 120 150+ Serious Sam's 4 2020 110 140fps. I still buy and I'm mostly play 2019 2024 maybe 50 or 60 series I'll up grade the 3090RTX best card I ever had and holding up longer to
@rawsnake
@rawsnake 2 місяці тому
Would be more interesting to see without dlss and frame-gen. Then it would be "real" performance so to say
@SIW808
@SIW808 2 місяці тому
Tbf it is a bit faster than a 3090
@GeForce_JacobF
@GeForce_JacobF 2 місяці тому
The video includes results from both Frame Gen on and off. DLSS Super Resolution was set to Auto (Quality) for both RTX 4070 SUPER and 3090.
@AdaptacionGamer
@AdaptacionGamer 2 місяці тому
Well, they take away the frame generation from the RTX 4070 SUPER, but both GPUs use DLSS, so... it would be nice if they showed both now but without DLSS
@maximusretardious4597
@maximusretardious4597 2 місяці тому
I have the RTX 4070 super & the RTX 3080 ti and they feel comparable.
@Krenisphia
@Krenisphia 2 місяці тому
Well the 3080ti and 3090 are extremely close in performance so that's not surprising.
@marufulislam4311
@marufulislam4311 2 місяці тому
Nvidia should release 4060 super. Current 4060 is very disappointing with only 8gb vram
@JonoFunk
@JonoFunk Місяць тому
Dreaming for the 5070 to match the 4090.
@coolquitepowerful
@coolquitepowerful Місяць тому
happy with my 1070
@louisfox553
@louisfox553 24 дні тому
Pretty disappointing, don’t ever buy a 90series Nvidia card. Just get a good midrange card and upgrade when you need the power for the games you actually play.
@nintendians
@nintendians 2 місяці тому
as long as it's more superior than the previous generation of gpus.
@AzaiaMonota
@AzaiaMonota 2 місяці тому
But what if I'm playing at 8K and need 18 GB of VRAM what performs better then
@hastesoldat
@hastesoldat 2 місяці тому
Nothing performs well at 8K. Maybe in 10 years.
@AzaiaMonota
@AzaiaMonota 2 місяці тому
@@hastesoldat I have an RTX 3090 it can get most games running well at 8K games like Forza Horizon 5 at 8K are no problem
@thomaswright1657
@thomaswright1657 Місяць тому
@@AzaiaMonotawow cool bro
@craciundavid2
@craciundavid2 2 місяці тому
How I activate RTX?(4050)
@snaileri
@snaileri 2 місяці тому
Why not use the same settings when comparing the cards?
@charlesfuzak
@charlesfuzak 2 місяці тому
The performance increase doesn't look as good if you do that.
@jayceneal5273
@jayceneal5273 2 місяці тому
They did
@ishJJx3
@ishJJx3 2 місяці тому
I mean, he did, both with frame gen on and off.
@AdaptacionGamer
@AdaptacionGamer 2 місяці тому
In reality, both have the same setting, just look at the part where they deactivate the generation of frames, and both are using DLSS
@ashleyjohansson230
@ashleyjohansson230 2 місяці тому
@@AdaptacionGamer They both dont use the same DLSS, nvidia never gave 30 series DLSS 3. A fair comparison would be to turn off DLSS for all tests.
@Immortal-soul
@Immortal-soul 2 місяці тому
hey nvidia? can i get one of your pc’s pwease 👉🥺👈
@westwonic
@westwonic 2 місяці тому
That T shirt makes me suspicious.....
@vahidarabani3560
@vahidarabani3560 Місяць тому
Why does Nvidia, which is the richest company in the world, not make an exclusive game for PC? Console fans will have to buy an Nvidia graphics card
@domagojbelic5772
@domagojbelic5772 2 місяці тому
2:04 it's really impressive how power efficient this generation is.
@ashleyjohansson230
@ashleyjohansson230 2 місяці тому
The test is already invalid since the 30 series doesn't get the latest DLSS updates.
@gajabdaddy1908
@gajabdaddy1908 2 місяці тому
The dislikes are already twice the no. of likes... Good job Nvidia🎉🔥
@ecu4321
@ecu4321 2 місяці тому
Its all about the tie, err tye, err thigh, err thai
@LucianPSimracing
@LucianPSimracing 2 місяці тому
Thighwanese
@sadkakashi5839
@sadkakashi5839 2 місяці тому
damn nice gpu
@B-ROYalty
@B-ROYalty 25 днів тому
enough with the frame gen bullshit, its just a feature that may not even be useful in many cases. Rasterization is what we like to see, not your marketing BS
@auroraflash
@auroraflash 2 місяці тому
Yeah, make me regret my XX90 card, NVIDIA 😂
@SIW808
@SIW808 2 місяці тому
I went from a RX 6700 to the RTX 4070 Super and the performance uplift is insane. Alan Wake 2 looks like a completely different game with path tracing enabled.
@MLTAKOS
@MLTAKOS 2 місяці тому
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@davidvictory9764
@davidvictory9764 2 місяці тому
​@@MLTAKOSfr I don't notice any difference and perf so much worse
@SIW808
@SIW808 2 місяці тому
@@MLTAKOS you mean yourself? Lol 😂 wtf are you on about?
@SIW808
@SIW808 2 місяці тому
@@davidvictory9764 you need to get your eyes checked
@ZSteven
@ZSteven 2 місяці тому
What about latency? I find it quite awful :/ specially when using FG. I bought 4090 because i do not wish to use Dlss and FG (one of the reasons).. But sometimes i still have to use dlss.. I guess 4090 isn't good enough for 3440x1440 at 144hz (targeting 144fps)
@Stef3m
@Stef3m 2 місяці тому
"I guess 4090 isn't good enough for 3440x1440 at 144hz (targeting 144fps)" there is a awesome new tech in PC gaming called customizable graphical settings, try to use it.
@Yuu-df7wn
@Yuu-df7wn 12 днів тому
4060 ti super please
@bankaimaster999
@bankaimaster999 2 місяці тому
the regular 4070 users must be pissed ...
@jayceneal5273
@jayceneal5273 2 місяці тому
Nah. This is how every graphics generation has gone. New things are always around the corner, it's a matter of do you wait for them or go for what's good now
@zywoousedtobesosimple7584
@zywoousedtobesosimple7584 2 місяці тому
Hi can you let me retire my beloved reliable 1070 by giving that 4070sup to me My guy need yo rest now ithink
@eSKAone-
@eSKAone- 2 місяці тому
Sick, I didn't know that 💟🌌☮️
@thomaswright1657
@thomaswright1657 Місяць тому
Just a bunch of bitter 30xx owners up in here who couldn’t be patient. God bless my 4070 super FE!
@Tyrant482
@Tyrant482 2 місяці тому
Please switch off the commercial by your videos.
@SomeRandomGuy369
@SomeRandomGuy369 2 місяці тому
If you have a 3090 do not buy a 4070 super. Thats a bad upgrade. TBH there is no upgrade worth it for you considering the prices. If you like wasting money get the 4090.
@jayceneal5273
@jayceneal5273 2 місяці тому
Its more advertising to people who can't afford a 90 class card that a 70 card is fairly comparable. And imo anyone who upgrades less than at least two generations is just financially irresponsible anyway. The 3090 will be good until the 60 generation at minimum
@mitsuhh
@mitsuhh 2 місяці тому
​@@jayceneal5273There are people who earn $100-200k+ a year after taxes and don't care that a graphics card costs $1-2k
@SFearox
@SFearox 2 місяці тому
What a bunch of clowns. I'll take the rtx 3090 over the rtx 4070 super.
@90kuky
@90kuky 2 місяці тому
But can it run crasis?😂
@StudyWithNika
@StudyWithNika 2 місяці тому
Input lag does not improve with frame gen on and u get worse visuals why would anyone enable it still 4070 super is an amazing card
@Krenisphia
@Krenisphia 2 місяці тому
The answer: You don't enable it.
@hastesoldat
@hastesoldat 2 місяці тому
Because a higher frame rate makes the game look more fluid and motion clearer. Which is the most crucial thing for an enjoyable gaming experience by a long shot and the priority for anyone who knows what's up.
@assassingamerzzsd2284
@assassingamerzzsd2284 Місяць тому
Rtx 5090 please 😊
@Null3004.
@Null3004. 2 місяці тому
No money bro.
@gyanaprakashmaharana5011
@gyanaprakashmaharana5011 2 місяці тому
Yeah. Just like my rtx 3050 mobile can't compete with iris graphics. Iris gives 120 fps in valorant but as I keep updating my driver it's now in the 100-110 range. And nvidia doesn't care
@jayceneal5273
@jayceneal5273 2 місяці тому
Well you bought a 50 tier card. Those are always obsolete at launch
@mitsuhh
@mitsuhh 2 місяці тому
​@@jayceneal5273he didn't buy a card He bought a mobile processor
@user-gh8dj4sm7m
@user-gh8dj4sm7m 2 місяці тому
I love nvidia
@eduonkhl
@eduonkhl 2 місяці тому
Insert: Jonathan Frakes telling you you're wrong for 47 seconds Imagine having to pay 700-800€ for a sub 300mm² silicone chip, we live in the dystopian future where insane profit margins are more important than anything else. For comparison this is the exact same die size of a GTX 760 from 11 years ago which I bought for 220 € back in the day. Even with all the inflation, ASML machines getting more expensive and TSMC raising their prices the price of this thing is pure fiction. In fact you don't even have to go back that many years. Take the 1660 Super which I also bought for 220€ back in 2020. It's only 10mm² smaller than this chip. You can give this card all the names you want but it's a 60 class gpu which should cost 300-400 $/€ if we're being VERY GENEROUS. Also I'd still buy a 3090 over this used any day of the week because of the 24 GB vram (let's see how the 4070 super performs in 2-3 years when it's running out of vram) and more importantly someone else already gave Nvidia the money for it so I stop supporting this monopoly like everyone should be doing. As for Frame Generation. Oh look there is an FSR 3 injection mod that replaces DLSS since you refused to make a compute shader frame generation version (like FSR 3) for older gpu's. Instead you only have the optical flow version of it so you can incentivise users to upgrade.
@pixels_per_inch
@pixels_per_inch 2 місяці тому
Nvidia paid for these dies during the covid hike, which was priced 2x - 3x above the usual. It should be better next generation if Nvidia isn't greedy.
@abubakarriaz8937
@abubakarriaz8937 2 місяці тому
Nah 12 Gig is nerd
@Null3004.
@Null3004. 2 місяці тому
Potato Nvidia Tegra X1 T210, 1500 GHz🗿👎
@hoverbike
@hoverbike 2 місяці тому
I see a lot of people calling this video dishonest. I think its completely opposite. Reviewers slam this claim, and proceed to compare rainbow six siege, cs2 and so on. Games that dont support dlss, let alone ray tracing. Not to mention, ganes that run at hundreds of fps regardless of the generation of the card. Who cares? But here is the thing Alan Wake 2 on a 3090 without frame gen is literally lower fps than a 4060 with it enabled, in alan wake 2. Now, AMD did put out FSR3 which certainly does improve the lifespan if our 30 series cards, but that doesnt detract from what these cards are capable of, especially if youve seen both in action. As before, DLSS just looks better, not because nvidia is a bunch of magicians or something, but because they insisted on cards having dedicated hardware to do this, to ensure the lowest latency and best visuals possible from generated frames, and it shows. If youve actually compared them. I find it hilarious how the ENTIRE gaming community COLLECTIVELY turned their heels the moment that AMD made FG possible on all cards, regardless of the visual quality. This video shows exactly how big a difference there is in the wpeed of the ray tracing equipment, and it looks like nvidia has done a good job. Thats not to say that their job is flawless. I think a lot of people, myself included, expected a 320 bit bus somewhere in the lineup of cards, which appears to have been omitted. If you slide one such card in as a 4080 ti, and slide everything else down a slot, i think the 40 series mightve been touted as one of the biggest generational leaps in the last decade of pc hardware, but it is what you make of it, and i understand that the pricing of a card is defined by more than its bus width. But regardless, i think thats what the community wants, in order to be happy.
@thatbritishgamer
@thatbritishgamer 2 місяці тому
Source for these claims as all I've seen reviewers do is right shit on the god awful 40 series.
@hoverbike
@hoverbike 2 місяці тому
@@thatbritishgamer check Digital Foundry's video of ps5 Vs 6700xt, 3060, 4060 and 2070. The 4060 was the clear winner.
@falcodarkzz
@falcodarkzz 2 місяці тому
great, now try 4k
@ChiBrianXIII
@ChiBrianXIII 2 місяці тому
Now show them competing without DLSS or anything other upscaling.
@jayceneal5273
@jayceneal5273 2 місяці тому
Would still be a few percent higher fps
@user-sudablelink
@user-sudablelink 2 місяці тому
안녕 난 한국인!!
@dinosoarskill17
@dinosoarskill17 2 місяці тому
lol subtle GFY from Nvidia.. lol
@abrahamcr5903
@abrahamcr5903 2 місяці тому
False ad, frame generation are fakes fps, no rasterization adventage, THUMBS DOWN FOR TRYING TO SELL THE SAME AT HIGHER PRICES
@skym1nt
@skym1nt 2 місяці тому
1:18 so 10% faster....but if frame gen it would give huge impact in performance such as fps and input latency.
@McLeonVP
@McLeonVP 2 місяці тому
Exactly like fsr 3 or fmf. What's your point? For me is Dlss Ray Reconstruction Better tensor cores better rt cores.
@LeonAlkoholik67
@LeonAlkoholik67 2 місяці тому
I'm less than halfway in, and you already make a wrong benchmark. This is not how benchmarking works, to have frame generation on one card, and the other one doesn't, in the exact same test. It's exactly like comparing apples to bananas, which isn't fair nor it makes sense. Frame gen should be considered as an experimental feature, and not some primary marketing target. If you want to make frame gen actually relevant, then solve the increased input latency first. I would expect that you are capable to solve the latency problem somewhat, since you guys also made NVIDIA Reflex
@Makavelli2127
@Makavelli2127 2 місяці тому
They literally showed it being quicker with and without frame gen 🤦🏻
@leemonguy
@leemonguy 2 місяці тому
@@Makavelli2127 Quite weird how every other benchmark on youtube says there's only about %5 difference at best lmao ukposts.info/have/v-deo/i5GZiImJq5uF2o0.html
@kraithaywire
@kraithaywire 2 місяці тому
If you watched the video for a little longer without bursting into rage, you'll see that they did show performance without frame gen.
@leemonguy
@leemonguy 2 місяці тому
​@@kraithaywire They did show it, but it's inaccurate. It's not better, hell, sometimes even worse than the 3090 ukposts.info/have/v-deo/i5GZiImJq5uF2o0.html
@leemonguy
@leemonguy 2 місяці тому
@@kraithaywire It's inaccurate and misleading. Just type the actual benchmarks that other people did on youtube, not only does 4070 super perform the same, hell, sometimes even worse than 3090
@KentRoads
@KentRoads 2 місяці тому
they're including FG what an actual joke, and I like nvidia P:
@GeForce_JacobF
@GeForce_JacobF 2 місяці тому
Frame Gen off was included in the video as well, yes still faster here 🙂
@JeffIsBetterThanBacon
@JeffIsBetterThanBacon 2 місяці тому
I assure you that absolutely no one wants to find out wether 2 over-priced cards are better than eachother.
@itachi7976
@itachi7976 2 місяці тому
Well 4070 super is way cheaper thn 3090 so people who can afford it's really good for them
@tom0900060
@tom0900060 2 місяці тому
cope
@EDit_624
@EDit_624 2 місяці тому
nise
@SACBart
@SACBart 2 місяці тому
modded fsr3 framgen is faster than nvidia framegen
@darkgamingbro
@darkgamingbro 2 місяці тому
Sure sure you can tell the circus all about it
@SACBart
@SACBart 2 місяці тому
@@darkgamingbro also the quality Is a little bit worse, the problem Is why Nvidia can do nothing about framegen for 3000 series???please stop defend for free parasite of humanity
@club4ghz
@club4ghz 2 місяці тому
Doesn't matter if it's faster when it looks and feels worse.
@painintensifies9489
@painintensifies9489 2 місяці тому
ok so it's just an ad for dlss3
@aleksi2858
@aleksi2858 2 місяці тому
blud is using dlss
@aarongordon4836
@aarongordon4836 2 місяці тому
thanks for shitting on my 3 year old 2K card
@decayed.gamerz
@decayed.gamerz 2 місяці тому
Vote for RTX 50 or 60 series 👇👇👇
@JOJO_JB
@JOJO_JB 2 місяці тому
SHORT ANSWER NO
@darkgamingbro
@darkgamingbro 2 місяці тому
It is faster than the 3090 but only by a bit without frame gen (1-3%)
@mitsuhh
@mitsuhh 2 місяці тому
It is faster than the 3090
@siyadmrafi9354
@siyadmrafi9354 2 місяці тому
Gift me one😅
@bluemio7349
@bluemio7349 2 місяці тому
All of these FPS are complete and utter bs lol. Check any proper test online and the 3090 is still easily ahead.
@mitsuhh
@mitsuhh 2 місяці тому
"easily"
@williamregal8503
@williamregal8503 2 місяці тому
bullshit
@Perl2000
@Perl2000 2 місяці тому
I dont carece about DLSS performance, it makes the game look like sh!t no matter the quality setting, show rasterization numbers
@commanderoof4578
@commanderoof4578 2 місяці тому
Is it faster than a 3090... short answer is negligible unless your using frame generation But its quite easy to make it slower than a 3090 or not work at all and thats by exceeding the Vram which is bloody easy to do with its pathetic 12GB wanna play say resident evil at 4k cranked... well you cant unless its a 3090 if your options are these 2 cards
@jayceneal5273
@jayceneal5273 2 місяці тому
Re4 has the worst and most pointless graphics settings that let you max out your vram for absolutely no benefit. And it's the ONLY game I've played that maxes it out if you choose to unnecessarily cache every single texture at 8k to save maybe 1 fps. In every other game at max textures at 4k with rt can't even get above 9 or 10, only game that gets close is portal rtx with max settings (which is barely playable anyway)
@commanderoof4578
@commanderoof4578 2 місяці тому
@@jayceneal5273 games that actually let you choose are the best Sure the naming of the setting is incorrect but at least they are there unlike i other-games when you can turn up draw-distance but run into popping issues as the Vram usage is artificially capped and even automatically pulls back settings without you knowing
@jayceneal5273
@jayceneal5273 2 місяці тому
@@commanderoof4578 I like having more options however it really arguably offers too much, because even someone who knows what every setting does will probably spend over an hour fine tuning every setting. For a new comer it's quite frustrating, especially when it lets you max out your vram for no real benefit in most cases at the cost of performance. Most people have the 60 series typically which have about 8, and I would say the performance they get will never require them to use settings above that. Except in re4 lol
@commanderoof4578
@commanderoof4578 2 місяці тому
@@jayceneal5273 again they are just named wrong... Its effectively like black desert online where you can use ultra and max it out and you have absolutely no optimisations... everything loads all the time and nothing is dynamic apart from object rendering Its the lack of the settings being named right and lack of telling you what settings are not intended for actual gameplay Its part of the reason why most AMD GPU's now come with 16GB because if Nvidia wont give you what you NEED then we will sort of thing
@jayceneal5273
@jayceneal5273 2 місяці тому
And I would argue that amd gives way more than what you need. Most of their cards will never utilize that vram ever, and if they did it's because they're doing rt at 4k or something, which, lol at the idea of that happening on any amd card with playable framerates
@infineon222
@infineon222 2 місяці тому
YOU CAN'T COMPARE FAKE FRAMES TO REAL FRAMES. THAT IS "SUPER" MISLEADING.
@Umbruh_Prime
@Umbruh_Prime 2 місяці тому
They had frame gen turned off comparison too but yeah, with dlss 3.5, if I'm playing a game at "120" fps and the response time feels like 60 I genuinely don't see the point
@Jac70
@Jac70 2 місяці тому
@@Umbruh_Prime For most games I would be looking for a baseline true FPS of around 40-50. If FG can then bump up frames to 60 for that more fluid look that would be somewhat useful. For twitch shooters it's not much use. Could be useful for stabilising FPS to 60 instead of using something like GSync or VRR.
@jayceneal5273
@jayceneal5273 2 місяці тому
It's not fake, it is still helping motion fluidity. They're just not traditionally rendered. More motion fluidity at the cost of some latency can be worth the trade off depending on the game or how you're using it (going from 30 to 60 is rarely playable unless you're using a controller and the game is slower paced)
@jayceneal5273
@jayceneal5273 2 місяці тому
​@@Jac70usually bumps it up more than that. Going from 40-50 might get you up to 70-90, and works perfectly with gsync
@hastesoldat
@hastesoldat 2 місяці тому
@@Umbruh_Prime This is a joke right? How do you not see the point of the motion looking night and day more fluid and clear? like wtf?
@eradication541
@eradication541 2 місяці тому
how to admit 4070 is a bad card xd
@darkgamingbro
@darkgamingbro 2 місяці тому
its not bad just overpriced
@eradication541
@eradication541 2 місяці тому
@@darkgamingbro all the 4k series cards are 1 tier down compared to previous gen outside of 4090
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