The lumping of Ukrainian aid and banning Tiktok into a single bill reminds me of that bit in The Simpsons, where a bill to destroy a comet headed for Springfield is going to pass, until a congressman amends it to add federal funding for pornography, condemning the "Save Springfield and Perverted Arts Bill" to a landslide defeat.

You have to remember this isn’t unusual. China banned UKposts, lol.

Why sell to American investors? Couldn’t they sell to a company in any country that doesn’t have laws like the 1993 one you mentioned?

I can't believe we've been discussing this for as long as we have.

3:45 All things aside this graph is pretty disingenuous. The y-axis says it’s a 1-3 scale, but it’s been truncated to start at 1.97 and goes only to 2.13

as someone who was in university in 2016, before tiktok was even a thing, pro-Palestine sentiment among young people is aggressively NOT a new thing

I'm not going to weigh in on whether banning TikTok is consistent with Freedom of Speech or if it is a worthy exception, as well as if it's truly a slippery slope or not. All I will say is that I find the rhetoric about teenage mental health and the whole Palestine argument around it to be equally if not more applicable to UKposts. That is to say, there's far more underlying reasons for it than just content suppression and/or algorithms cleating echo-chambers.

Not a single word mentioning that the "ban" simply removes it from app stores in the US. users could still very easily install and use the app.

Love that intro song!

Considering the hoops foreign companies have to jump through to operate in China, it's about time America did something, but a forced sale seems a bit excessive.

damn! you guys explained it well. keep it up!🎉

If certain contents don't appear on that platform, it doesn't directly mean it is controlled by Chinese gov. Companies in China are known to self-censor certain contents to avoid problems. Just like how companies would censor anti-certain-religion or gender etc, in the West. Censorship is everywhere wherever you look at it. You can't go up to The Guardian news and write your right-w stance.

5:30 "American politicians don't like it because Israel doesn't" Well this explains it all 🙄

Wouldn't surprise me if TikTok is bought by Oracle, since they already handle their datacenters and algorithm (with heavy oversight from China), so even if the company normally has products like the programming language Java or the VM hypervisor VirtualBox, it would make sense for them seeing as they have all the infrastructure already. Alternatively, if Oracle doesn't buy them, it might be Microsoft, as they might want to compete with Google with their video platform.

Thank you

The thing is America regularly forces tech companies to give the government user data, and often without ever telling the public why, or what data, or how much. If even America does it, you can bet that China does it.

Let's hope so

I may note that while you're allowed to say whatever you want within the United States (as long as you don't use your free speech to commit a crime like defamation) Congress is allowed to regulate what goes in and out of it. After all, to quote Article I Section 8 of the Constitution "Congress shall have the power to lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common defense and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts, and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States; To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes."

Maybe but once the courts are finished with this it is highly questionable whether it will hold up on constitutional grounds.

*Makes video on Tiktok's US woes* *Adds in the Incogni ad at the end.* ...not just me seeing the irony here, right?

The Chinese should close Tik Tok in the United States at 00:00 on Tuesday, November 5

Yes! Yes it is!

I find it fascinating that politicians will look at the degree of unhappiness in younger people and seek to blame Tiktok and not, you know, crappy politicians.

The weird thing about the study on young people getting news from TikTok is the fact that young people in general get their news from the internet in general, people have been getting news from Twitter for years. Not to mention, I don't think young people are interested in watching the actual news, as the actual news can be just as if not more stress inducing compared to news on the internet due to it been filled with constant negativity.

So wait, the coubtry who ACTUALLY and PROVENLY check ALL of our communications, is worried that another country can do exactly the same? lol

Hopefully

I would be more supportive of this ban if literally everything that they mentioned here couldn't be said about American companies too.

The more you put in a bill the more the opposition has to compromise with you.

How can they talk about banning Tiktok and be at the mercy of Google and meta 🤦‍♂️

I hate how our government lumps totally unrelated legislation into one bill and then names the bill something so vague yet so patriotic or noble sounding so that anybody who votes against it is criticized heavily and villainized 🙄 they’ll take the tiktok ban and Ukraine aid and put it in a bill called “save the puppies act” so when politicians vote against it bc of the tiktok ban bill for instance, then the media and their political rivals can drag them for voting against saving the puppies 🙄😂

shut down tiktok and no more money sh t

Bring back the old intro music😏

We need to ban Ticktok in UK as well

Disliking every video that has implication that an automated request from a browser addon would somehow deter "shady data brokers" from selling my personal data to whomever they bloody like.

You know... With Oracle having access to TikTok's algorithms and data, under Project Texas, TikTok should just have them publish a report. Public trust is more important than just giving visibility to the government... Especially since the government can't be trusted to reveal info that damages their own agenda, to the public. TikTok's CEO said that the report about the scrubbing of anti-China content was a lie. But... We shouldn't have to trust them or US politicians on this issue.

The end of TikTok in the US, not in the world 😂

GOD FORBID anyone but America tracks my data

Y do we need incongni if i don’t use ticktok?

Well, tiktok should just leave... And probably have their engineer to make new/similiar app under new umbrella instead having Tiktok directly sold. Why? Because this give a message to the world that US is not really different than China about censoring content on their nation, just with different way from china.

Time for vine to comeback

Teens with short attention span are getting to have even shorter attention spans thanks to TikTok.

Thanks to AIPAC.

I've never used tictoc myself, too old, but the hypocrisy here is laughable. Yeah, how dare a Chinese company do exactly what our proud American companies are doing? We need to force them to sell to us!

I hope they sell, but if not, even better!

these clicking sound effects are horrible. lmk if you need someone to help with audio engineering

Oh I hope so.

They’re probably gonna sell TikTok to the US

Dude, don't get me wrong. I wish we would also take tougher actions on American companies harvesting data from us, south globe countries. The US has their own Agenda just like China.

At least Tik Tok can fight this in court…unlike China, where you don’t have this option.

I sure hope it's the end of tiktok

Skip da ad 10;35

Politicians pretending to be concerned about young people's mental health is hilarious. All the "problems" they attribute to TikTok exist on Meta's platforms too and they never did anything. Hypocrisy.

What a bunch of crap

Looks like TikTok's days in the US might be numbered! Will this be the downfall of short-form video entertainment as we know it?

Life will immediately get better if TikTok is banned. I want it out of my life. I can’t get away from friends and coworkers sending me TikToks 24/7

4:00 yeah, if they worry about mental health of young users, when they take some actions against other social media? There is nothing about Twitter or Facebook, and they work the same. Politicuans dobt care about children.

It would be a possible violation of tiktoks own first amendment rights. Corporations in the usa have the same rights as people.

Free market and free speech for others. Protectionism and control of media for me :)

The whole "china is squashing pro-isreal" content is a bit misleading. Its all but impossible to determine if the lack of content is down to a self reinforcing algorithm (i.e. user are pro Palestine because of the content, or the content is pro Palestine because of the users) Additionally, young people are overwhelmingly pro Ukraine despite the inclusion of that content in the "suppressed" topics alongside pro isreal content

They should agree to sell it for a 1 trillion $.

Let the adversary do more harm by spreading misinformation and propaganda and even want to fight in the court about constitution by pretending to ban it after so many years.

However Israel is both foreign and influential and that was not mentioned.

They will just create something else if you years ago was Snapchat now it’s TikTok it will be something else soon enough.

Honestly, legally speaking ticktock does bot have a good argument with 1st amendment protections. There are a couple of arguments they could use with the first amendment. 1st, they could argue that it is a voilation of ticktock's first amendment rights. Businesses because of a supreme court cases do have these rights. However, the sumpreme court couls interpret ticktock's personhood as a foreign citizen. This would mean they have linited rights. So the argument would fail. 2nd, Ticktock could argue this voilates 1st amendment rights of people's ability to have free speech. Now, free speech is still limited and it is also limited against espionage or harmful speech. It would be easy to argue that ticktock can easily be used for espionage, bevause it does harvest data and link to a foriegn interest opposed the US. As such, this argument is weak. 3rd, Ticktock argues that this law violates americans freedoom of the press. Out of all the first amendment arguments, I would say this is strongest and also dangerous argument. The problem is that this could lead to the notion that social media should be consider like town squares instead of independent press because generation of news is from the people meeting and sharing ideas. All in all, it is not loking good for ticktock. Maybe they have somekind of 1st amendment argument that will destroy the opposition. However, like the video mentioned, while the court battle goes on, ticktock will lose money.

No In Indonesia Tiktok still number 1 And Indonesia and china combined are really colossus market

No, this is the end of America

Why US banning Tik Tok will be the end of Tik Tok ?. US has like 300M people and there population is collapsing. The world has 8B people

Good,end the fucking thing which has burned people's brain cells for years one small step towards something better when it comes to people mental health, communication and generally interaction with the reality around them.

As much as I loathe TikTok and all its brainrot. I feel there are much more important priorities that Congress could be addressing instead. Regardless, I will not mourn the loss of TikTok if it ever does come to pass because we need to stick it to the man, the man being the see see pee. Also, people have alternatives to use instead like UKposts shorts and Instagram reels. What makes TikTok so damn special?

We live in a age of VPN, this don't mean a thing for users, just' shows the america gov shitting their pants in public.

LET'S FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! FUCK TIKTOK!

I mean, the government has no issue trampling on the 2nd amendment so I have no doubts they're gonna care about the 1st amendment

nah i'd win

I mean it's ok for Tik tok to be banned! The Us government cannot allow ccp control their teenagers minds! However I don't get why it should be an American company? Can't a French company do the same?

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances." Banning platforms because we don't like the owner is NOT the American way. It's bullshit. The law is unconstitutional.

Just want to say good job as always for providing a nuanced, neutral and concise take on specific issues. I get my global news mostly from TLDR, not tiktok.

One of the scariest things about this (and the thing that completely swapped my opinion on this) were the Chinese diplomats trying to sway and lobby American officials to not ban it. Completely destroyed the idea that tiktok was sperate from the ccp and that china don't benefit from it.

But Facebook, Google, etc. who do the same shit are totally ok & unbannable

I think it's interesting how quickly congress mobilized to make this move against Tiktok (considering how slow and impotent they proport to be on certain issues) after the genocide in Gaza.

They were all separate bills...

So, Netflix, Google, WhatsApp, telegram, UKposts,... Most movies and most of the internet are banned in China, but banning TikTok is an insult to China?🤔

This law is precisely why the US is just China, with better PR thanks to legacy branding. The question is what else will they force to sell to the US. Just like all immigrants going to the US, you got to be sold to American. They will own you. The only different is you won't be shipped from Africa this time, but from other places and many times voluntarily, thinking you go for freedom and opportunity. Opportunity alright, of whose. And it's freedom until you're successful, and they'll force you to sell your business to an American. Unlike China where you have to sell first, then enter, American wait for you to finish the hard work first, and force you to sell.

The small hat religious group in America are mad that the can’t censor TikTok.

6:48 you forgot Soulja Boy!

This isn't about data sovereignty or safety, it's about US owning all the major social platforms in the world. If it were about the former, Facebook, Insta etc. would all be banned as well.

Ban it

this is great

You're overcomplicating things, what really happened is that Biden completely forgot that he was initially against banning TikTok.

now it is because the propalasteine

7:58 Commun( )cations Act 1934 - Can you give me an "i" there?

We need to band Tick Tock in the EU as well.

There's freedom and there's giving an open adversary complete access to the hearts and minds of one's citizens. Do business with China and you do business with the CCP, whether through formal mechanisms or the owners kids getting a nice lift home in a government car.

Given that China has banned most ‘western’ social media never mind news channels & the like I think it’s fair to ban TikTok given the CCP controls what subjects appear on the platform.

I can see Vine making a comeback with Tik-Tok being in the states no more

Remember Ladies and Gentlemen, China has banned most U.S social media platforms such as Instagram, Facebook, Threads, WhatsApp, UKposts, X, Snapchat, Quora, Pinterest, Tumblr, GitHub, the list goes on. Tik Tok which is owned by a Chinese company is also banned. Chinas great firewall also controls search engines on what their citizens can and can’t view. 😂😂

I think every country should force tech giants and social media companies to keep data localized in those countries with no access to that information in the country the app originates from. Every country has their security concerns about their private data.

This video may have convinced me. If it was just purely social media, whatever, not our place to ban. But the fact that the Chinese government puts its thumb on the algorithm really makes me think that this is being used for political purposes which are not in our best interests.

Considering the uselessness of tiktok for mankind - just abolish it altogether, not only in the US.

Answer: Yes. It’s finally over.

You pronounced gen z wrong again