Is Dinesh still making the rounds.😂

I agree. He has his charlatan tricks down!

He was definitely a salesman.

The entire world can't be an Islamic caliphate. Ahava Adonai Ahava Israel

Don't you think that's more indicative of a "you problem", given the significant status of the man? Or you're just... for sure, definitely smarter than all of those people. You're sure that's the answer here.....??

@@kylemccormack1785 Yes, he is smarter than all of those people. "Status" is in no way any evidence for the validity of any argument made by someone, nor is the size of their following. There are innumerable examples of charlatans with mass followings. J Peterson's games are so easily seen through that it's comical that anyone is convinced by his "arguments". All flash and no substance is how he does it and many are swayed by surface embellishment. It's disheartening to see.

@@kylemccormack1785 Yes, the poster above is definitely smarter than all those people.

@@galvanaut7119 Right, that's what I am talking about. Self-obsessed arrogance and lack of education.

@@kylemccormack1785 Oh, you were talking about J Peterson's self-obsessed arrogance and lack of education and the lack of education of his fans? I didn't see that. I guess we agree then.

the only actual comment here

Biological

No one was "going back" because no one's ever been there before. Current Israelis are squatters from Europe.

​@Vorname_Nachnahme actually you are wrong. Israel is the Jewish homeland. What's your favorite surah in the Quran. How do you feel about the girls of Afghanistan who can't go to school past 6th grade or work or walk to the park or listen to music.

@@Vorname_Nachnahme They are going back to their ancestors' land. But they are not using their ancestors to claim the land, they legally bought a lot of land before and after Ottoman Empire collapse. The two-state solution was a fair solution roughly based on the land ownership.

@@yansakovich All this is the product of the founding of Israel in 1948 by the violent expulsion of the resident Arab population and the subsequent three-quarters of a century of brutality and mass murder. A non-binding vote in the UN General Assembly in November 1947 called for a division: Next to the state of Palestine, a Jewish state was to be created on Palestinian soil. This was the result of the machinations of rival powers determined to retain control of a geostrategically important area. It used and manipulated the enormous sympathy of the population for the fate of the European Jews who had suffered so terribly under Hitler’s Germany and who were denied entry into the West. A particularly cynical element of Zionist and imperialist propaganda is the repeated claim that Israel is the only democracy in the Middle East. But its founding - within an already existing state, in which the Jews constituted only one third of the population in 1947 despite mass immigration - would never have been possible with democratic means. Israeli historians who had access to the state archives have documented the crimes of the political forerunners of today’s ruling gang of far-right nationalists, religious fanatics and former generals. Netanyahu’s party Likud is the political heir to Irgun, whose party leader Menachem Begin was prime minister from 1977 to 1983, and the lechi ("star gang"), whose leader Yitzhak Shamir became prime minister in 1983. These terrorist gangs waged a brutal war against the Palestinians and British officials in the post-World War I period, when Britain ruled Palestine under a League of Nations mandate. In the approximately 30 years to 1948, they murdered several thousand Palestinians, whereupon 1,300 Jews were murdered in retaliation. The massacre of Deir Yasin in April 1948, in which more than 200 men, women and children were murdered, is one of the best known examples. In his groundbreaking book "The Birth of the Palestinian Refugee Problem 1947-49", historian Benny Morris explains that this was one of the most important factors for the escape of Arab villagers from Palestine. Between November 1947 and the end of the British mandate in May 1948, more than 375,000 Palestinians were displaced by a mixture of violence, atrocities and terror, including murder. The war between Israel and its Arab neighbors, which broke out in May 1948 after Prime Minister David Ben Gurion proclaimed the founding of the State of Israel, led to the deaths of about 13,000 Palestinians - twice as many as Israelis - and about 3,000 to 7,000 Egyptian, Syrian, Jordanian and Iraqi soldiers. Israel denied displaced Palestinians the right to return to their homes and forced most of them to live miserably in refugee camps in the Gaza Strip, the West Bank, Jordan, Lebanon and Syria. In the Arab states except Jordan, they were largely denied citizenship, so that they and their descendants became registered refugees. Many now live in other Middle Eastern states, others have moved to the West. Ben Gurion himself encouraged the Haganah, the predecessor organization of the Israeli Defense Forces (IDF), to expel the Palestinians from their homes. The Hagana was largely under the control of the parties Histadrut and Mapai (precursor party of the social democratic Awoda). There were at least 31 confirmed massacres, including the terrible massacre in October 1948, in which a battalion of Haganah from former Irgun and Lechi members murdered between 100 and 120 Palestinians in the village of al-Dawayima near the southern Israeli city of Hebron. A soldier following the events of IDF Operation Yoav (October 15-22, 1948) said, There was no battle and no resistance. The first conquerors killed 80 to 100 Arab men, women and children, and their skulls were smashed with sticks. There was not a single house where people were not killed." No one was ever charged with the massacre. According to the United Nations Refugee Relief Project, the number of refugees in the Gaza Strip increased from 100,000 to 230,000 due to ethnic cleansing in the southern region. At the end of the war, of the 1,157,000 Palestinians recorded in a British census in 1947, only about 200,000 were left in parts of Palestine that became Israel. The takeover of Palestinian land was even more dramatic, with Jews owning less than 12 percent of the land in later Israel in 1946. After the war of 1948-1949, this share rose to 77 percent. The Israeli government had passed a law on abandoned property to take control of the property of displaced or refugee Palestinians. Since Israel was founded on the basis of terrorism and ethnic cleansing, it could only maintain its policy of expulsion and expropriation through constant oppression and warfare. Ben Gurions Awoda (Labour Party) imposed military rule over the Palestinians who remained in Israel and became citizens until 1966. Only a few months later, Awoda placed the occupied West Bank under military rule, which continues to this day. The IDF repeatedly engaged in unilateral fighting with the Palestinians who wanted to return to their former homes or visit their families after 1949. Particularly notorious is Ariel Sharon’s 1956 Qibya massacre, which killed 69 Palestinians. Between 1949 and 1967, between 2,800 and 5,000 Palestinians were killed during the Fedayin War between Israel and Egyptian forces and militant Palestinians - about four times as many as Israelis. No one was ever charged with the massacre. According to the United Nations Refugee Relief Project, the number of refugees in the Gaza Strip increased from 100,000 to 230,000 due to ethnic cleansing in the southern region. In June 1967, President Gamal Abdul Nasser expelled the UN troops from the Egyptian-controlled Gaza Strip and Sharm el-Sheikh, where they guarded the Strait of Tiran, and blocked this route for Israeli shipping. Israel used this to launch a long-planned pre-emptive strike against Egypt. An estimated 20,000 Arab soldiers lost their lives, compared to less than 1,000 Israeli deaths. During the five-day war, Israel occupied the Syrian Golan Heights, the Jordan-controlled West Bank and East Jerusalem, which it annexed, as well as the Egyptian peninsula of Sinai and the Gaza Strip previously occupied by Egypt. It forced another 250,000 to 325,000 of the 900,000 Palestinians in the Jordanian-controlled West Bank to flee to Jordan and 100,000 Syrians to flee to Syria. The 1967 war led to another war in October 1973, when Egypt and Syria undertook a surprising and ultimately unsuccessful military attack on Israel to achieve the return of the territories occupied by Israel. Their defeat resulted in Egypt signing a peace agreement with Israel and the Arab bourgeois regimes abandoning any support for the Palestinians. The 1967 war led to another war in October 1973, when Egypt and Syria undertook a surprising and ultimately unsuccessful military attack on Israel to achieve the return of the territories occupied by Israel. Their defeat resulted in Egypt signing a peace agreement with Israel and the Arab bourgeois regimes abandoning any support for the Palestinians. The defeat of the Arab armies in 1967 created the conditions for Yasser Arafat and his Fatah organization, which sought a Palestinian state through an armed struggle, to lead the Palestinian Liberation Organization (PLO) could take over. This marked the beginning of an extremely unequal military conflict between Israel, armed to the teeth by US imperialism and supported politically and diplomatically, and the Palestinians, now isolated and abandoned by the Arab regimes. Source: *_'A state founded on expropriation and ethnic cleansing'; Jean Shaoul_*

@@Vorname_Nachnahmea vast majority of “Palestinians” are descendants of illegal Arab immigrants from other countries during the late 1800s and early 1900s it was a land of immigrants, Jews and Muslims are both indigenous to the land also, but Arabs have rejected peace for the past century and have been going to war again and again and whining about it every time they lose

Sam understands him perfectly, so maybe it's just you going along with the typical herd mentality that use the same excuse to cover for their own bias. Or maybe you honestly just haven't the capacity to understand what's being said. 🤷

Don't overthink it. Rational thought isn't for everyone.

I can understand what he says, he is nuerodivergent and thinks in pictures instead of ideas. Listen to him paint the picture of what he is saying, pause the vid and then analyse the picture. FYI: here to help because u asked a question.

Well, I can understand what he says and even having spent hours listening to his long speeches on UKposts, I can pretty much understand where he's coming from. This can be problematic for you, especially because of the complicated words he uses when speaking.

⁠@@AbhayPeshinI’ll take you up on that, if you’ll oblige me. Let’s say Sam is taking a straight-forward, materialist stance on this issue. To Sam, the value of Elvis’s guitar is based on the behaviors of everybody involved. The value comes from whatever humans ascribe to it. How much they’ll pay. The social value of showing off the guitar, etc. Peterson is refuting this by alluding to a hierarchy of values, and claiming that the brain is merely REFLECTING that value. Peterson is claiming that the value exists somewhere outside of the brain, and outside of the guitar. But he is unclear and vague. If he believes we share a collective unconscious through the soul, why doesn’t he just come out and say that??

pretty much!🤪

@@AbhayPeshinhaha haaaaaa! He is a blowhard word-salad artist that wouldn’t get hired at a McDonald’s

sure thing bud. enjoy your shift at wendy's, good luck with the revolution.

I think anybody with a brain dislikes Sam Harris.

No, he is actually on the record says Sam Harris is the smartest guy he knows.

@@tommohsien888 wow what a sad inditement of both.

@@paulsmith7579Why because people can disagree . I don't think I am smarter than they are because I can probably solve math problem better than they can.

@@tommohsien888 anybody who has spent any time listening to Sam Harris will be aware he substitutes over verbosity for logic.

Wow, you fucking showed him.

I don't understand why people in the comments need to make it an absolute war. The entire reason they engaged in this discussion was out of mutual respect.

Really, because I can link you in another interview to who JP said was the smartest person he had debated and he said.....Harris.

It bothers me that most people will never understand that this slam dunk, if understood in the context of the whole drawn out discussion, basically debunks most things about the Arab - Israeli conflict and therefore also most negatives about religion as a whole. It’s profound!

Both could share Elton John's glass, but some how the stronger of the two is trying to exterminate the weakest to own the glass. If you know what i mean.

@@isakekelund Exactly, nuanced comprehension unfortunately is a lost art, to the overly devoted. i.e. Religious absolutism.

its actually a really good topic, unfortunately Peterson had it going in circles with his non stop religion simping.

@@Aquamayne100 GUESS I'LL TAKE YOUR WORD FOR IT -- GOTTEN TO THE POINT WHERE NEITHER ONE OF THEM ARE ALL THAT INTERESTING ANYMORE --- JUST THE SAME OLD BLABBERING OVER & OVER

this was a two day embarrassment

The Jews survival is not at risk, how could you possibly say such a thing. Is there existence at risk in the US where there is law and order? Last I checked, there hasn't been a Holocaust in Germany in 70 years.

Do you honestly believe what you wrote? Why has Israel been expanding settlements continuously and aggressively, they already have a state. Is anyone currently threatening the survival of Jews or even the existence of Israel? The examples of absolute horrific treatment of Palestinians, occupation, apartheid, a string of well-documented crimes would suggest that it's not the Muslims who simply can't tolerate neighbors. They lived together for generations.

@@JIJICA100 I believe what I wrote and I know what I wrote. Now, you tell me why these settlements in Muslim areas are so unbearable for you? Why the worst curse for a Moslem who never met a Jew is "Yahud"? Why the first reaction of Muslim states to the creation of Israel was the expulsion of Jews? You wrote, ' Is anyone currently threatening the survival of Jews or even the existence of Israel?' Are you blind and deaf and unfamiliar with the agenda of Hamas? You do not have TV and missed all those meetings shouting, 'From the river to the sea?' You use the old strategy. You send suicide bombers to Israel; when Israel tightens security you run to CNN crying, 'This is occupation and apartheid!'

Maybe they do need a place but they fucking STOLE the Palestinian land so don’t expect the Palestinian people to welcome them with open arms. You wouldn’t love your neighbour if he forced you to live in your chicken shed!

@@JIJICA100 I replied to this comment only to see it disappear the next day.

Paron, "Drama Queen" Zoda.

@@kylemccormack1785 Spoken like a true nazi

Yes. Exactly. With the same dehumanization tools used: "You know they are not like you and me...they are scary...so what if it's children and civilians..."

@@JIJICA100 word!

@@paronzoda You're mindless. 40,000 dead out of 2.1 million isn't a genocide by any definition. grow up.