This was one of the best conversations I've heard in a long time. I would love to hear these two speak together again.
@Joe_mangina21 секунда тому
Very good discussion ❤
@asktoobtain51 секунда тому
What is "true and useful" is entirely dependent on "world view" (otherwise known as "religion"). You can fool yourself yet none other than that fool you see through...
@Joe-dz7kj5 хвилин тому
A man is male and a woman is female. It really is just that simple. That’s how God Almighty designed all of us.
@escrtn849 хвилин тому
Me, any time I hear JP talk... "I have absolutely no idea what he just tried to say, and what's more, I'm not sure he knows what he said either."
@JohnDoe-qh5xg12 хвилин тому
God is what ever boundaries your subconscious upkeeps
@JohnDoe-qh5xg13 хвилин тому
Einstein sure did mention emc2....
@juanjvvictorjohnson13 хвилин тому
A wondering miracle has no contingent wonderer wondering contingencies about belief being contingent on miracles wondered.
@asktoobtain19 хвилин тому
When your definitions include "generally" but you aren't skeptical about your own defining of "wellbeing" LMAOooooooOOoooOooO Nobody will agree with you on what a good life is when you'd be writing down abstractions of abstractions i.e. thoughts of thoughts made script absent scripture
@-justin-407724 хвилини тому
I’m convinced all the pro MDH commentators are bots. They come out to feast like hyenas after every debate.
@ZeeAmy19 хвилин тому
Nice cope 😂
@notsure6424 хвилини тому
Illegal immigration is horrible and a total fail.
@fuckinA7938 хвилин тому
Two idiots doing a bad job of entertaining
@asktoobtain41 хвилина тому
"human" beings are so uncomfortable with the supernatural that they concocted the whole word "consciousness", and would more likely get rid of the word altogether than succeed at explaining the phenomenon even slightly EVER #OblivionToOblivion
@asktoobtain50 хвилин тому
22:27 as he literally describes(rests upon) the metaphor that scientificality so sadly relies on riding into oblivion from oblivion No matter the number of times the house of cards (theoretic models) are dismantled by a newly discovered deck...
@asktoobtain56 хвилин тому
This bald pseudonerd would likely attempt to dismiss thought as natural having no knowledge or understanding of how he receives thoughts and what separates his current thoughts from the big bang miracle denied to be a miracle. The fools have lost their foolishness relatively "Supernatural" is merely the infinite unknown and dismissed due to false assumed truth posited by axiomatic pseudognosis Trust that eyesight you will never comprehend friend... Scientists will never be the authority they are handed due to "usefulness"
@PanthraxIV22 хвилини тому
Lots of words. Not a lot of logic. Try again
@asktoobtain16 хвилин тому
@@PanthraxIV go ahead and show "me" a metaphor for the big bang without using the axiom of your eyesight. Go ahead and appeal to logic using something other than intuition child. The authority you blindly follow defines colors using only metaphor and you couldn't recognize that even reading these in black, white and ___.
@asktoobtain6 хвилин тому
@@PanthraxIV describe allegory absent authority and definition... all while ignoring how you define "define"... Tell me about logic; Son
@yourchanceisNowГодину тому
people that don’t understand the socratic method don’t understand jp and how truly smart the guy is
@knowme4iam32654 хвилини тому
Dude the socratic method is often described as asking questions of the other to arrive at a predestined answer. Example. Why shouldn't we touch hot pans. Because they can burn you. Jordan Peterson is not the mental giant you perceive him to be...good try tho..cheers
@huemanzuГодину тому
jp is a clown engulfed in complex argumentative bs
@joeysavoy4591Годину тому
They need Billy Carson on this bih
@biswajitroy5082Годину тому
No, they refused to fight the demons of their community and will do so everywhere they move in the name of religion
@valariesusan52Годину тому
The Palistinian people were and are also terrorised by Hamass and Hezbollah.Their youth are not being heard. Protests in Iran against the wearing of a scarf.God forbid you show a piece of your hair.Young youth being hung in public for speaking against the Morality Police who terrorise young women.A man who lived in Gaza and worked in Isreal said growing up was terror.He saw a woman hanging out clothes when a man chopped off her head because she had been seen speaking friendly to A jEWISH SOLDIER.hE SAID THE SOLDIERS GAVE THEM CANDY LIKE THE AMERICANS IN vIETNAM.hE SAID THEY DRAGGED BODIES BEHIND their can in the street.They ruled with an Iron fist...Palistine needs Isreal desperatly.to free them also against Terror....
@emiliog.4432Годину тому
Two guys arguing over the existence of the Easter bunny and Santa Claus. And if Jordan believes that Mat believes. Oh man. Word salad with vinegar and oil.
@KFish-bw1om2 години тому
Jordan Peterson is like what you get if you put the devil in charge of hiring someone to go out and defend the gospel for you. At the end of the day it holds very little real value to him, because as much as he's having fun playing the pseudo Christian intellectual, he's still very much a naturalist. The "stories" as he so reductively describes them, are all just abstract in his mind. Therefore, he's willing to discard any portion of them, or twist, bend, and break them to fit within whatever philosophical thread he finds most self gratifying in a given moment. Despite all of his interfacing with the "biblical narrative" and however much he's come to appreciate portions of it, he's still unable to submit himself to God. He can't worship God, because he worships his own mind. All of this that he's doing just ends up being a masturbatory exercise in that type of vanity. He enjoys very much his own intellectual exploration of the word of God, but he hasn't been able to find the true meaning in it, far greater than any abstraction he can pull from it, because the real problem isn't in his mind, it's in his heart. I pray that God will soften the hearts of both Jordan and Matt. That they may see beyond the cold, pale, stark surface of their intellectual exhibition, and come to know the truth in Christ.
@singwithpowerinfo58152 години тому
Peterson is a wealth of unfalsifiable nonsense, and completely unsupported assertions wrapped up in eloquent bullshit.
@masterblaster94472 години тому
Jordan Peterson gets smooooked! 🚬
@arvinsenglishph22932 години тому
It's ignorant not believing in God , JP is a proponent of God no wonder he is POLYMATH!
@sandrabotha68482 години тому
I Utuz 🎉Po
@aumshreeganeshakovil2 години тому
Muhammad conveniently avoids 10 Commandments Ten Commandments Moses brought down directly from God is not mention in Quran because Muhammad violates the Ten commandments every day of his life living with 11 wives and Ayesha was 6 years old Creating conflict and art of Crooked and Corrupted and Warped Logic is what Muhammad invented and perfected Telling the Truth in times of Deciet is the Noblest of Prayer Muhammad practiced slavery looting plunder Spoils of War surah Anfal chapter 8 of Quran Spoils of War shows that Muhammad sustained himself entirely from Wars Robert Spencer reveals in his book THE HISTORY OF JIHAD FROM MUHAMMAD TO ISIS details and documents accurately the horrendous crimes atrocities and eternal genocide on peaceful prosperous defenseless civilizations mainly Jewish and Christian by Muhammad Allah Quran and Muslims Erica Vogel Sallem Surah Anfal Spoils of War Plunder and Looting reflects on Muhammad living and sustaining himself on Spoils of War Plunder and Looting NO 10 COMMANDMENTS IN QURAN, MUHAMMAD COULD NOT COPY IT, AND PUT IT IN QURAN, CAUSE HE KNOWS HE WILL NOT BE ABLE TO OBEY IT, RULE NUMBER ONE, SLEEPING WITH A CHILD IS A NO NO, IT DOES NOT MATTER IF IT WAS 1400 YEARS AGO, NO EXCUSE, ANY HUMAN WITH A BRAIN WOULD KNOW IT IS COMMON SENSE YOU DO NOT SLEEP WITH A CHILD , ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU ARE THE AGE OF A GRANDFATHER, AND HAVING MANY WIVES ALREADY..Jesus condemed the violation of children and Muhammad in his old age did exactly that in marrying a 6 year old Those who dishonor children are the AntiChrist Muhammad violates the Ten commandments and deliberately does not introduce it in the Quran although Moses appears over 160 times and a whole chapter appears in Quran & once again explicitly and unambiguously confirms the unethical and immoral nature of MuhammadMuhammad practiced slavery looting plunder Spoils of War surah Anfal chapter 8 of Quran Spoils of War shows that Muhammad sustained himself entirely from Wars Robert Sp
@aumshreeganeshakovil2 години тому
Beware of Naledi Pandor and Cyril betrayed Nelson Mandela Islam is a million times worse than Apartheid Ten Commandments Moses brought down directly from God is not mention in Quran because Muhammad violates the Ten commandments every day of his life living with 11 wives and Ayesha was 6 years old Creating conflict and art of Crooked and Corrupted and Warped Logic is what Muhammad invented and perfected Telling the Truth in times of Deciet is the Noblest of Prayer Muhammad practiced slavery looting plunder Spoils of War surah Anfal chapter 8 of Quran Spoils of War shows that Muhammad sustained himself entirely from Wars Robert Spencer reveals in his book THE HISTORY OF JIHAD FROM MUHAMMAD TO ISIS details and documents accurately the horrendous crimes atrocities and eternal genocide on peaceful prosperous defenseless civilizations mainly Jewish and Christian by Muhammad Allah Quran and Muslims Erica Vogel Sallem Surah Anfal Spoils of War Plunder and Looting reflects on Muhammad living and sustaining himself on Spoils of War Plunder and Looting NO 10 COMMANDMENTS IN QURAN, MUHAMMAD COULD NOT COPY IT, AND PUT IT IN QURAN, CAUSE HE KNOWS HE WILL NOT BE ABLE TO OBEY IT, RULE NUMBER ONE, SLEEPING WITH A CHILD IS A NO NO, IT DOES NOT MATTER IF IT WAS 1400 YEARS AGO, NO EXCUSE, ANY HUMAN WITH A BRAIN WOULD KNOW IT IS COMMON SENSE YOU DO NOT SLEEP WITH A CHILD , ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU ARE THE AGE OF A GRANDFATHER, AND HAVING MANY WIVES ALREADY..Jesus condemed the violation of children and Muhammad in his old age did exactly that in marrying a 6 year old Those who dishonor children are the AntiChrist Muhammad violates the Ten commandments and deliberately does not introduce it in the Quran although Moses appears over 160 times and a whole chapter appears in Quran & once again explicitly and unambiguously confirms the unethical and immoral nature of MuhammadMuhammad practiced slavery looting plunder Spoils of War surah Anfal chapter 8 of Quran Spoils of War shows that Muhammad sustained himself entirely from Wars
@singwithpowerinfo58152 години тому
Matt exposed JP as the fraud that he is when discussing anything to do spirituality.
@lukedegraaf11862 години тому
How are authors issues? Can JP ever be clear?
@lukedegraaf11862 години тому
Was that like a minute before the metaphorical substrate was mentioned? What is it? He mentions it a lot.
@singwithpowerinfo58152 години тому
It’s all about the metaphysical substrate. 👍
@lukedegraaf11862 години тому
@@singwithpowerinfo5815 as helpful as Jordan. Thanks?
@turntablesrockmyworld9315Годину тому
Kind of like the cultural narrative that underpins cultures. He feels many narratives have metaphors important for human existent.
@johnjenkins58542 години тому
What a full load of horseshit.
@alboe52 години тому
damn the banter is great in this convo.. JBP is just that guy.... his brain is just on another lvl
@lukedegraaf11862 години тому
Yeah, too many drugs.
@Zion666662 години тому
MD: is there a god? JP: Metaphorical substrate, hierarchies, post modern, blah blah blah
@omeromer19982 години тому
Yall dont be pondering as hard as me and my main man jp
@ronherrle1413 години тому
It’s the a same as a deadly cancer. Wherever it go it kills its host.
@harkema80903 години тому
Do not put mr. Peterson in court. ( explanation of the color of a car: well, you see. that depends..)😊
@ChaoticPasta3 години тому
Here's what I think Jordan Peterson REALLY believes: He's way too smart a man to believe that there's an all-powerful being somewhere out there pulling the strings of our universe; but he feels that, because of his knowledge of psychology and history, that humans cannot thrive in a society empty of a fundamental belief structure that is rooted in a supernatural explanation. Without a idea that serves as the ultimate terminus of all ethics and values, humans will be in danger of latching unto other alternate forms of dogma like what happened in the soviet union. Kind of like how after Matt abandoned religion, his brain broke and now he is caught up in the dogma of Woke-ism. It's sad that so many people, even a great atheist debater like Matt can't escape the pull of dogma. I watched him fall off over the years. It's disappointing... I guess some people can't just live comfortably with the existential dread of not having an overarching worldview to ground your thinking in.
@findingmyway933 години тому
The man that cant by definition prove that the external reality exist😅
@HareKrishnaHareRama1013 години тому
Actually you are still under estimating . Islam is over your neck
@arctictruck103 години тому
Why can't people just say I don't know
@tetashome2 години тому
ego/fear
@JL-xz3zf3 години тому
Honestly, I used to think JP was really intelligent and I'm so embarrassed about being fooled like that. Ive learned my lesson though haha
@turntablesrockmyworld9315Годину тому
Yes, understandable if you are not "academic"-type yourself. People that have academic-interests have rolled their eyes from the very beginning when hearing him; he is a smart man but his word "skills" generally only impress non-academics. I generally also found the writing in his first popular book was terrible and of the same vein.
@Alincoln33328 хвилин тому
I think it’s a mistake to conflate a mans intelligence with their ego. Dr. Jordan Peterson is an incredibly intelligent psychologist who has been cited as a well respected, credible source who had certainly earned his tenured position at quality Universities. Now nothing I said there gives him any authority in the realms of Theology, Geopolitics, Philosophy, Eastern European Literature or anything else. He has been thrust into the position of “Clever Man” by a mob of dopes who saw him for the first time showcasing his 10,000 hours making everything he said go from, “Clever man said clever thing because he’s clever” to “Respected Psychologist has opinion on thing that isn’t psychology”.
@allether53773 години тому
Jordan rekt Matt
@ovid42 години тому
Clearly you didn’t watch the video
@atmoo34473 години тому
What a waste of your life debating whether God exists or not. If you really want to find out, transform your emotional baggage, face your deepest fears, let go of all the nonsense society and religion has feed you. Then you will not need such foolish debates.
@Dontbustthecrust3 години тому
I disagree
@Druid753 години тому
Jordan “The Word Salad” Peterson
@hypno56903 години тому
I swear athiesm is so broadly appealing because the majority of people live SOLELY in the material realm. No depth of spirit whatsoever
@Druid753 години тому
And theism is people taking fairy tales way too seriously and making cults out of them And we all live in the material realm my friend
@korgothofbarbaria28413 години тому
That is just your projection and view of people. It's always spiritual people telling others how they need to live. And that is so deeply non-spiritual and you do it to make yourself feel better. If atheists make up a small portion of the world like 5% and according to you, the majority of people live SOLELY in the material realm then ask yourself WTF are you spirituals gurus doing to the world.
@consciousness78992 години тому
my friend is eager to earn lots of money more than he needs but he believes in god..
@KFish-bw1om2 години тому
@@korgothofbarbaria2841 Didn't you just do exactly what you accused others of doing? "Stop judging people for not being spiritual enough. That's very unspiritual of you!" How would you even know what would constitute an accurate judgment of someone's spirituality, if from your own statements you seem to oppose spirituality?
@user-qf8xo1lz3d3 години тому
5:10 he says it himself
@Joe-un1tl4 години тому
This smackdown of Peterson will never get old. The fact that people buy the religious BS Jordan's been pushing for the past 6 years is absolutely wild to me.
@hypno56903 години тому
Grow up man
@savani104 години тому
Jordan annoyed me in the 1st minute of this interview. This is how bad he is when he has no idea how to defend a point.