Then act all "pikachu surprise face😲" when the Void gives back a _less than desirable_ answer😈👽

Well said..

@@Maya_Ruinzwell the first answer was „do Not answer“

Praise the sun!! 🙌

Who would have a thought right

The scale of season 2 must be so wild! Sht is about to hit the fan!

Don’t get your hopes too high for a season 2. With the ratings & the review scores & the budget & Netflix being Netflix, this show has a decent shot of being a Season 1 and done.

Its likely going to be at least till 2026 😢 bit the scope is extraordinary, all three books span millions of years 😮

@@jimhsfbaywasnt it number 1 in america?

@@KingCrimson82 Netflix uses unknown internal metrics to decide whether or not to renew a show. They have canceled a bunch of sci-fi & fantasy shows that were #1 in the US at some point.

Yep. The helmet game was basically a recruitment tool. None of the cultists understood what their true intentions were.

It is strongly implied that they wanted to leave parts of humanity alone, but changed their mind when they learned about lies

I haven't read the book, the Chinese tencent version says they won't allow humans to procreate.

That’s not entirely accurate, they are just refugees, but they are scared of humans and thus cannot imagine coexistence with them.

exactly like the Jews 💀

That line "we can't wait to meet you" is so ominous. Perfect delivery.

She is a cute kid and good actress. Did the cute but creepy kid thing perfect.

es aterrador pensar en que su propia madre (o talvez su padre) la creo en ese juego solo para morir dolorosamente, una y otra y otra vez, rogando que la salven

@@percivaldarkus3537 Well, the ETO merely used the image of "Vera" to create a NPC in the game.

why is she frightening she get's killed everytime

too bad we cant have an invasion now in this highly volatile time.

she is just a small alien child. in the books, They read human fairy tales because they do not have literature like humans and have the scientists read to their children. They don't understand metaphors.

If san-ti can't decieve that means they were peaceful before the old guy spilled the beans that humans can lie

⁠@@markobolo4465one of the main themes of the book/show is that humanity would be incapable of peace if we were invaded by entities from another world so peace was never an option to begin with

The main theme of the books was that the universe out there was extremely hostile. That was the reason why the universe was silent for so long. Once the location of a civilization was known, it would inevitably be wiped out and replaced. The San-ti's did not speak with one voice and the first response to Ye Wenjie's message as shown in the show was from a San-ti telling her not to answer because it would be the end of humanity.

Better than ricks son in the new walking dead for damn sure 🤣

@@wintergreen2.073 dude he got 5 seconds of screen time lol

That kid is good. Pulled the sweet and innocent act well.

😳

@@asanokatanais this like an actual spoiler? Actually don’t tell me lol I haven’t read the book at all.

@@asanokatanaIt's a cook book!

No the Trisolarians don't eat people 😂 but they did reduce the population by a lot

Sweet summer child... They will not be the ones eating...

They can't lie in their native language: It is implied that they have some sort of super-fast optical form of "speech" which directly translates their thoughts to information. Thus they cannot have an internal dialogue separate from their communication. The instant they think the word, it is spoken. But they learned to do it through text/speech eventually...

@@RainbowDevourer i thought it was that they literally didn't understand the concept of deception until a human described it to them. isn't this scene from before that?

@@heck6225 in the Netflix show, kind of. In the Chinese show and book it’s a bit more fleshed out. It’s more that their communication and their thought is the same so they didn’t initially understand the implications between separating thought and communication, and lying can be part of that. But they understand lying, their entire plan for Earth is based upon deception. It’s that they didn’t initially understand a distinction between communication and thought. It’s a subtle difference but also a big one.

But they *were* invited. Ye Wenjie literally said to come to earth and conquer it.

I agree. I haven't read the books yet, but I came across information regarding the photoids, singers, and 2D vector bombs

Zero-Homer death lines ☠️☠️

they really are..until the red riding hood story happens

They were never coming in Peace. Perhaps to their followers but they planned on eradicating the rest of humanity. The Dark Forest Hypothesis.

I think originally their plan to conquer humanity would’ve probably led to them just subjugating us, but after learning about lies they concluded that we couldn’t live with them.

If you aren’t into the books’ story line you are in for one hell of a treat. I’m don’t know if they will get into it next season but they have already merged the three book storylines so maybe they will…it’s pretty gnarly.

It's far better than that childhoods end show that came out on scifi my guy. Give it some credit loll

Interstellar?

@@Kumire_921 forgot that, good call.

Try star wars.. Hahahaha jokes

The Expanse?

its pretty high it made me so excited at many parts but you definitely need to watch more, there is plenty of great scifi content out there

it's gonna take a year at least, chill

Bro, it's Netflix. They gonna cancel it. Or fire all the good writers by season 3 to save money, then cancel it after it becomes bad. it's Netflix dude. I'm so sorry the writers of Game of Thrones are gonna waste more years of your life....

@@KbearMcYumYums more like turn it into a story about white man bad

Its a good show so its obviously going to get canceled.

@@boss_niko safe to say with Netflix

Good doesn't always equal popular, hard sf is niche genre.

That's what I found particularly creepy, I caught myself buying into the aliens' narrative, empathising with them, before the sinister realisation comes that they've been manipulating or "priming" us.

​@Thisisahandle701 That's the point. How many predators do you just attack their lunch? They wait or let the prey feel safe. That's what they are doing letting us think we can advance faster etc. The whole time they have been working against us by kissing ass and making us feel oh how smart you are.

​@@Thisisahandle701 I'm not certain that's what's happening per se. These creatures aren't like humans at all, they're a much different species. Much of what's happening is a fundamental lack of communication. "You are bugs" isn't a threat despite the context. It also means that you are social creatures that should work together. This distortion doesn't come straight from the aliens, it comes from the Sophon playing out an algorithm. It's a time bomb they armed, but it isn't them. It's hal 9000. These buffers create chaos, they create confusion. The simulations suggest they almost all work as one, but there's still a leader, two scientists and then the players. That suggests some autonomy among them, and they snicker and coerce to get their way. They torture one another. They are a hive mind, but they don't always necessarily agree. I know where the books are going, but there's a subtle subtext that our communication is inherently faulty. We invited them, but was that necessarily wrong? In the 400 years of flight should we have tried a different tact? They get into defeatism, but deterrence only works so long. The three body problem has no solution, but that's inherently the issue. They asked the wrong question. With a thousand ships and advanced technology, fixing a planets orbit could've been done. The aliens dumb down the scenario for humans because they don't want to reveal their advanced technology, but had they, they may have realized that humans individual thinking might've solved their problems in their home world - and from the start, they have the means to communicate with THAT society. Fixing a planets orbit sounds insane, but there's moments where gravity is completely disturbed on the planet. It's in their symbol. You can fix the problem right there if you have 1000 ships. It's a beginning and an end point. If you solve the problem by changing the question, you change the whole scenario. In the end of the book series everyone does work together, with forces they've never met or even understand. The real horror here is that the predator and prey relationship is entirely circumstantial, you can be BOTH. In every decision they make where they frontload violence, it's proven to be largely moot. The boat attack was entirely unnecessary, they were supposed to see the drive. Where was the guy going with the drive? He wasn't trying to save it. He was trying to give it up to stop the attack. He was likely told to hand it over. That's a microcosm for every conflict. The rationalizations of killing one society for another only leads to self assured destruction, because you need each other. You need "more". In the end there's peace only in the mutual dying of every race, but finally they figure that out and leave behind something selflessly for everyone. ... had science not become a race to kill one another, it might've been a race to save everyone. That's the real horror here.

This is exactly how we treat animals that are being farmed. It's awful

Can't wait to see "God Emperor's Navy" facing the droplet. A misanthrope's dream spectacle.

Ave Imperator

The Emperor protects!

Long live terra

We would love for you to meet your welcoming committee, I am pleased to introduce the Black Templars and Dark Angels. Oh is that xeno-tech you have there, yes that will need to be inspected by the Adeptus Mechanicus….

"We can't wait to meet you!" was the most chilling part.

nope. Sounds like something we'd do. While I'm not certain what criteria they used to choose who was on those ships, I can assure you that the vast majority of their world is of one mind in the sense that they're unified. Their species is beyond desperate, especially when any of the 'chaotic eras' could literally be their last one.

@@mandasity I don't buy it. Even the first alien we contacted was like "Bro, don't message back, the others will take over." On a basic level variety in a species and a society is vital for survival through many different circumstances. I think a dissenting voice is inevitable in any intelligent, social species. Even if the Trisolarans aren't individually minded like we are I would be shocked if there wasn't a group that opposed the decision to conquer Earth and even resisted. I like OP's idea that the Trisolarans left the pacifist faction behind to their fate. I've forgotten so much of the book, need to reread, but I remember having the impression our view of the Trisolarans is very skewed by how and why we meet them.

@@forrestpenrod2294 the book showed the one listener as a dissident, and mentions 2 periods of time where their civilization was closer to mirroring ours. Everything else you just said is your own words and has no basis in the books. It's logical sure and a valid point too, despite the fact that you're making assumptions of how a potentially infinite number of varying societies might look based off of a single solitary data point :P, but there is literally no more elaboration than the one dude and the two periods of time. 1 was in the past the 'princeps' (leader) of their world explained to the listener. The second was when *SPOILER* during the period before the fleet arrives when both cultures started adopting qualities of the other's, but it is also implied that a degree of it was just more deception on their part. I can't argue that it's a pleasant thought to see ourselves in other societies though.. it would be comforting to find that kinship.

No. They evolved to accept sacrifice. The entire concept of "resource limitation" is one axiom of why every civilization in the cosmos is hostile towards one another, though.

Yes they met according to the book

Kind of.. but the circumstances are more mind blowing and shocking

@@DaddyBear205 I heard somewhere they never actually meet in the books..

@@suvamk Yeah not face to face.

@@eternal_napalm6442 Spoilers homie. Delete this comment.

Or use the Sophons to build Star miners, and send one of the stars off to be a distant trinary? Then the San-Ti can move their own planet into a decent orbit around the two remaining.

Actually, Earth is the closest stable star systems. That is the point. Tinkering with the 3 stars is too dangerous a preposition when you in the 3 star system, even if you have the tech and I don't think being able to creat a sophons allows that level.

@@biocapsule7311 Impossible, there got to be a lot of single star or twin stars systems near their home system.

​@@zollen123 Have a read about the Goldilocks Zone/habitable planets. Finding a habitable planet that's the correct distance from a sun is the difficulty (too close and it's too hot for life - too far and it's way too cold for life). Nearest potential habitable planet for us is estimated to be about 4.2 light years away and probably isn't even suitable.

@@laura47311 These aliens don't need all the right conditions as we human would need. They are advance enough to survive with a stable system.

But how does everyone know they have to remain quiet? Unless they've observed other civilizations get wiped out? Or even without having made the observation themselves, every single civilization reaches the same concusion and chooses to hide? 🤔

Even Singer found it interesting we didn't have the hiding gene lol.

@@antred11 imagina que el universo es un bosque oscuro y cada civilización es un cazador con algún tipo de arma, podrías ponerte un chaleco reflectante si... pero entonces los animales hambrientos te verían

@@antred11 The key is that if you guess wrong, your species dies. So if you guess there is nobody else out there, make noise, and you are wrong, then your species dies. If you assume other races out there are friendly and you are wrong, then your species dies. If you assume there are other races out there, at least one of them is hostile/genocidal, and keep quiet, then your species can survive. Assuming a Dark Forest situation, the safest move is to keep quiet and watch.

There are no aliens in Dune, which is cool because seriously, there's a technologically advanced civilization 4 light years from Earth? Apparently living planets are like Starbucks in Seattle. One on every corner.

@@TestUser-cf4wjTo be fair the humans in Dune are basically aliens. Everything about them is weird and/or unsettling.

San-Ti left behind be like: lead us to paradise

That's preposterous. There is definitely not life in every star system in this series. Far from it. There are, however, far more advanced civilizations than the Trisolarans. If Humanity is a 0.7 and the Trisolarans are a 1.5, then Singer's race who wields Dual-Vector Foil is a 5 or a 6. Same with the Zero-Homers. Both have apex technology with Dimension-Strike capabilities and are a big reason the universe is collapsing down from 10 dimensions to 0.

@@eternal_napalm6442 sure, and it all happens within the span of human existence. My point, again, is that sci-fi with advanced aliens devolves into absurdity. No different than unicorns and dragons.

si uno sobrevive, todos sobreviven no es solo su estilo de vida... es su biología

Easy on the eye, too. :D

"And then Dany kind of forgot about the Trisolaran invasion fleet..."

It's not all that far out from reality, though. At the end of the day, everyone dies. If someone can live long enough to reproduce, the species lives on. And that's what matters.

I wonder where the human who wrote 3 Body Problem got the idea of honourable sacrifice for the greater good

Civilization 9478, so increase that number there a tad

Remember the first level, 8 days chaotic era, 63 years stable eras. With each new civilization, which they had to start over, they had only 63 years according to the game, to prepare for the next wipe out. As time progress and learning from their failures, SanTi found only solution to last longer is to find another star system, ours is a prime candidate. NASA and the likes has been truly investing in mega telescope for this reason, in case of major wipe out, finding a prime candidate star systems.

​@@analienfromouterspace well the point of the game was to show you can't predict how long/short the chaotic or stable eras were, i'm pretty sure it varied far from 63 years. they simply got lucky on the most recent stable era and it lasted long enough for them to get this advanced. and they're leaving before the next one hits.

What's the truth of the trisolorians?

@@Kopie0830 They want to do genocide, it's planet earth they need not us...

I had a sneaky suspicion about that🤔 I've only seen this one clip, looking forward to now seeing the show, but when it was like "we only need 1 of you to live", it came off as a kind of a double bluff. Figured the younger version of her is dead and they're just trying to discourage her from seppuku.

@@Kopie0830 they are emotionless survivalists, our existence means nothing to them

@@Kopie0830 just google the dark forest hypothesis.

The woman is supposed to represent the sophons but it’s a little vague. The little girl is just part of the game to get players on the aliens side. The way I saw it was that when the woman was not speaking for the sophons she represented the wisdom of the aliens and the little girl was their desire to survive.

@@iiericshermanii5495 so the woman isn’t being controlled by a San-Ti, but rather the AI Sophon? I’m honestly surprised Sophon can’t read minds from the headsets you would think the headsets would make a brainscan and sent it to the San-Ti

@@eden20111 In the second novel it's explained that the human brain operates in such a complex and quantum-ey way that sophons have no way of reading minds

@@chrisgaming9567Which we're already on the verge of reading minds with current tech. Well, maybe not "read minds" like precisely, but we've been able to train computers to pull images from people's minds, or use their minds to control computers. Granted, that's usually with training and effort on the brain side. But if virtual technology were 50-100 years ahead of where we are now, you'd think they could do some light mind scanning. I do think the human brain probably does operate in some quantum way, and I think intelligence might be a quantum system, and that's what counts as an "observer", essentially one quantum system interacting with another that causes the wave function to collapse. But then, it wouldn't be fun to have the aliens be able to read our minds on top of everything, so I'll accept the premise.

@@andmicbro1 Yeah, if the sophons could read minds there wouldn't be much of a story since it would be impossible to defeat them.

That's _maester_ Samwell to you, pleb!

season 1.

This is a scene from season 2000.

Nvm, I now know. I watched the whole show but skipped Episode 3 without me knowing 💀

yea he is the game of thrones guy

No, it's Samwell Tarly!

I'm about to watch it after seeing this clip but at the same time... Its Netflix and they cancel shows on a whim so it is hard for people to get invested in these shows knowing that it'll probably get cancelled or its 4 years between seasons🤷🏽‍♂

@@ICU1337The show just came out, so cancellation depends on how well this season does.

I mean stories like this are way complicated. 90% of the population are down to Earth basic common sense and entertainment. Only a minority understood the complex science and details of a story. This is why in films you have majority into Disney products, Meg movies, and Pacific RIm 2 than a well-development and relatable medias.

This show has so many plot holes one could drive a tractor and semi truck trailer through but simpletons are easily impressed with garbage that uses big words to sound sophisticated.

@@MichaelPohoreski yea I enjoyed watching the show but there are a lot of obvious plot holes in it and they arent small ones. They're the type that kinda ruin the whole story. But its still enjoyable🤷🏽‍♂

If they had the typical Earth mammal type of biology, then yes. But there are these little things on Earth called tardigrades - which can live in vacuum and survive a lot of conditions that ordinary mammals can not. So it's possible that the San Ti are similiar, with tardigrade like biology.

😂

when?

if you are really into the series and can't wait for season 2, then read the book first. It is very different from the show, so you may still have enough to expect when season 2 is released.😂

OR you can watch the Tencent series. I recommended it.

The books are good, with a slightly above average ending. This series was written by the guys who wrote Game of Thrones though, and they are famous for saying in interviews they want to "subvert the audiences expectations"... Soooo maybe hold off on that netflix subscription until the show's final season has a rotten tomato score...

DARK (German sci-fi series) is good. You are guaranteed 3 seasons to watch.

I personally think the books are terrible. I love the show. I wish I had watched it first.

They mean that no matter how good the computer is it can't predict the motion too far in the future. Even small perturbations are enough to throw the planet completely off it's predicted course. You will need to constantly update your data with observations Jin mention it in the show during the human computer scene

@@coloboquito That's not how the thing works. Because the smallest perturbations have to be a significant perturbations. In order to make a significant impact to the movement of the three bodies. Because if you consider things in the absolute term, the Earth is currently in an infinite body problem, because there are countless insignificant space objects that have gravity upon the Earth, fortunately, all of those objects are insignificant. Things large enough to alter the trajectory of 3 suns are nearly non-existent. In the 3 body problem, the trajectory of the initial condition of 1.000000000000001 m/s or 1.000000000000002 m/s is completely indistinguishable. Only significant initial condition difference can create a significant difference. Now it's true that the significant marker in the 3 body problem is usually a lot lower than other linear problems, but if something is smaller than that significant marker, it's still insignificant. A significant disturbance in the system of that size would be another star suddenly appearing near the bodies, and that's impossible.

@@coloboquito Right now the Earth can be considered as being in a 9 body problems with 1 star and 8 planets in the solar system. But we still model it as just a 2 body problem because the mass of the sun is infinitely large. So your argument just doesn't hold up.

@@markarmage3776 we actually can't predict positions of planets farther then a million years in the future. Because at this point even a miniscule difference in starting positions will result on a completely different prediction. But our system is much more stable then a three-body system in the show. When I was experimenting with simulating it I found that a change of about a km in the position of one star results in breaking up (one star is ejected) of a periodic solution during the second period (≈ a year with the distance between the stars ≈ AU)

@@coloboquito Okay, then run the simulation at a renewal pace of every 100 years. Like I said, the argument stands, a 3 minute computer program can predict accurately the position within the next 100 years. So there's always time for adjustments and everything.

They are living in a non hierachical three star system The assumption that life could develop in such a hellhole and build a civilisation is.... fare fetched. But lets assume that somehow happened... They have adapted to the hellish environment. And leave spores. So even if every single one of them dies to the catasthrophiess their star system throws at them. Their species still survives But they lose their civilisation progress every time that happens and need to start again That is why... civilisation 9478...

They are also evolved to survive in that environment. Their true form also aids (I won't spoil and it is only half canon)

just an ai for the 'game', or an avatar for communication controlled by the san-ti. As for where they got the image.. that's a later episode I won't spoil :)

Probably early on. But it will inevitable drift away over time unless you constantly feed it data. It’s like predicting the weather were quite accurate up to a week. But further than that and our predictions will be quite random. Same with systems with more than two bodies like our solar system

@@Jose.AFT.Saddul Agreed but constantly feeding it data is not an issue as the necessary data is available from the system itself (assuming one is dealing with an isolated system. However, if the system is not isolated then it is not a true '3 body' systems...)

@@hariseldon3786 any system with more than two bodies is technically a three body problem. We encountered it when trying to predict the position of mercury and computers gave vastly different answers on a large time scale if you changed mercury’s position by a single millimetre. It’s just even worse for three starred systems like alpha Centaurii. Computers struggle to find a stable configuration for it.

@@Jose.AFT.Saddul In physics (astronomy) and classical mechanics, the three-body problem refers to the challenge of determining the motion of three celestial bodies-such as planets, stars, or other massive objects-interacting solely through their mutual gravitational attraction. Specifically: Initial Conditions: Given the initial positions and velocities (or momenta) of these three point masses, the problem involves solving for their subsequent motion according to Newton’s laws of motion and Newton’s law of universal gravitation. Complexity: Unlike the simpler two-body problems, no general closed-form solution exists for the three-body problem. The resulting dynamical system is often chaotic for most initial conditions, necessitating the use of numerical methods for analysis. Historical Context: The first specific three-body problem studied extensively involved the Moon, Earth, and the Sun. However, in a broader sense, any problem in classical mechanics or quantum mechanics that models the motion of three particles can be considered a three-body problem. In this clip they explain their understanding (which is imperfect) - and I am suggesting a working solution.

Bigmouth?

Some people are calling it boring, but I was enthralled, basically binged most of the season in 1 sitting. Then finished the rest the next day. Modern attention spans are just struggling to stay focused for more than 30 minutes? Or perhaps it's too heady for some?

@@andmicbro1Just not when like 20 of those 30 minutes are largely irrelevant soup opera stuff. It's not heady enough is the problem. It wants to be heady but it also wants broad appeal and they went a bit too far on the broad appeal. The original story gets way headier than this and its being held back by trying to shoehorn in stereotypical modern young adult drama that's already in god knows how many Netflix shows. Perhaps it's the people that need 10 minutes of soup opera between every 2 minutes of actual sci-fi that have short attention spans.

Completely disagree, Emily in Paris is a good example of a really shit show getting renewed because of the large viewership of it. So if this show proves to be popular rather than good, then there’s more chances of it being renewed.

I'd rather see Ben Browser in a *Fall Guy* reboot.

This movie played like a thought experiment to me. It has too many gaping holes in the science to be taken seriously. And for the the aliens to be so easily turned to come to earth based on a brief contact with obe person was absurd. The characters and visual effects are the only thing that kept me watching it.

​@michaeldeierhoi4096 The idea is this: every single planet with intelligent life tries not to contact other intelligent life. The reason being, it's too risky. That other planet might be more powerful and decide to destroy you or otherwise dominate you before you can grow to hurt them. Or there will be some other unlikable scenario in play such as the one in this show. Trying to find a new planet might put the aliens at risk of destruction from stronger aliens. But Earth reached out and made it easy, being weaker.

@@notfromhere8889 That does make the storyline more clear to me. Thanks for that. However, that is not enough for me to recommend it to anyone else.

@michaeldeierhoi4096 it's not normal sci fi or for everyone, that's for sure. The book is even more out there

It's very easy to see why they targeted Earth. Despite being wary of the Dark Forest Hypothesis, the Trisolarans felt comfortable with invading Earth due to its proximity and our level of evolution. Analysis of our communication methods told them all they needed to know about our level of technology.

Nothing to worry about them, must be a peace offer of some kind.