8/10 if i had not read the book. 6-7/10 as a book reader (It really is my all time favorite sifi) I watched the whole thing in one go. In the last episode were they showed the ant on the tomb stone i thought: Well, good damn, they did a really good job! I love the decisions with the characters. The Wade and Will Downing/Tianming characters even better then in the books. The most important concepts are in the show and non is really butchered. (I was under no Illusion that even 10% of the science will be in the show :) Its kinda sad, there were no meetings with all the military leaders from around the world. I think this is the main reason Da Shi could not really shine. I love the decision to not include the cringe Nuke scene. Don't like the Tatiana kill scene or or the gore in the game, but it does not bother me too much. Well, then came the Ye Wenjie scene, that changed the course of human history. And Holy shit they butchered that so much. What the F is that Joke?!? Its just dumb. They really think the audience is fing stupid and cant even grasp the simplest of concept. They made my beloved science riddle into a joke. Damn. That hurts, ngl. And were is Bill Hines? Will they cut the whole mental seal concept? That would be really bad. Yeah i was really disappointed at the end :( Now with a bit distance its ok :)

Looking forward to the next season. I have not read the book. I prefer short book reads. So from my perspective, while the pacing was a bit off at times, the series held my interest. Reaction on social media has been mixed with some comments indicating the series was perhaps a bit too intellectual (I’m reading between the lines there). Fortunately for the Neanderthal viewers, there’s far better fare for that mindset with in your face ugly aliens, blown up spaceships and second rate acting. 😝 I did find the cultural revolution beating very triggering. Especially given the current collapse of decency worldwide and the worsening destruction of the environment. I almost feel like we need to place a giant target on our planet for real aliens to come end our civilization or perhaps an extinction-level asteroid.

@@fogsmart if you don't like long books but want to know, how the story of the 1st book plays out, with all the important details, i can recommend you this yt video: 3 Body Problem SUPERCUT: Read Books Faster

@@franzfrikadelli6074 thank you!

The netflix series is a solid "meh" and i have no issue with the diversity. Its a rushed galopp skipping so much of a good story. And its not a problem of turning a book into a TV show. Tencent did already a take with 30 episodes. And this is where the rush shows: in 30 episodes Tencent covers one book, where netflix covers 1.5 books in 8 episodes. Even in production quality Tencent has a solid lead with greate SFX and a great OST. The biggest difference is that the books and the Tencent show are China centered. And this is the part that pissed me of the most. Instead of watching a show and looking at cultural differences and similarities we get something lukewarm fastfood dumbing down the slow but fascinating development. A solid 3 out of 10. IMO not worth a second season.

haha

brilliant

He spent it all on the star for his ❤.

Will did the ultimate Uno reverse to his opportunistic sister & brother in law. A true Chad 'till the end.

He already spent it all on the star. The joke was his only possession left was a goldfish.

Which is dumb. If anything the sun would block the signal.

@@ToxicGamer86454 Wow. You just don't give up. You must be a real joy at parties.

@@Golf05 Am I wrong though? It isn’t about making people feel good.

@@ToxicGamer86454 Another thing that's wrong in the show - the SanTi don't really exist.

@@vezrien 🤦🏼‍♂️

Yesssss! Netflix pls don’t cancel it otherwise ima cancel my subscription immediately 😂

I dont think they would cancel it. The Head of Netflix (a big fan of the book series) invested so much effort to make it possible on screen (i mean, not just money but also othe obstacles including sensitive political issues conserning China) to just abrupt it half the way. I feel pretty confident the show would be renewed.

They'll do a second season. But take their sweet time doing it. Just like Code 8 part 2. They'll wait for the hype to increase

@@jaybandu6976 Streaming services take sooooo long for a season 2 now days. I end up forgetting about the details from season 1, second seasons seems to lose some of its magic too many years later, or just not interested 2-5 years later and moved on to something else.

They absolutely won't. They're hoping it'll be another game of thrones. They'll see it through.

For those sweet summer children who never saw “Ghost Ship”; or for those who wanna relive it

Wait till you read the part about the international fleet in the 2nd book

Seriously I had my mouth during that entire scene, it was so fucking brutal, the slow invisible death just slicing through everyone and everything No noise besides the people and ship slicing into pieces And the way it all just crashes into the shore afterwards This series has so many jaw dropping moments it's so fucking good

Yes, and to think this kind of technology could soon be real! It's a strong fiber so very fine, if you walk into it you wouldn't even feel it, and then you see your body fall into pieces. Quick death though.

@@JeffreyBernabe...I think this would still take the cake for its visceral realness as its more imaginable and relatable being human technology that could possibly be seen and used in the next generation. It was like the first time I saw ONSCREEN long range communications in StarTrek as a kid....I was like damned that's cool because I can imagine that for the future. The TriSolaran tear drops are more akin to Yondus whistle arrow.

The san-ti who made first contact must’ve also lost faith in their species, otherwise they wouldn’t have warned Ye about continuing to send signals.

@@victorpleitez768 Or maybe that's how they get you.

@@victorpleitez768 Yes, actually. The Listener is my favorite character even though he has less that a chapter of screen time in the book. He warned them because in the pursuit if survival their species has become brutal and banished such things as art, and he doesn’t want that kind of people to get the paradise that is earth.

@@kirstencorby8465 But that would be lying, and they claim they didn't understand the concept.

@@viperswhip Maybe they're lying.

Netflix should consider the potential of this unique and complex show beyond its initial viewership. It is important to have a second season to expand the story's reach and attract new fans. Season 2 delves into the most exciting part of the story, and Netflix needs to think really hard on this one, like what's next for Netflix, after Stranger things and Witcher.

And is a spoiler about them being bugs themselves Tha moment the billionaire guy called liars "bugs" clearly insulted the tri solarians

san ti

Its the exact same with us, look at what we do to other animals with lower technology.

@@user-343-8fx Animals? people genocide and slave other races in human history.

I’m still pissed I had to read subtitles the whole time, ruined the show because I could never just “watch” it. Makes total sense why it was cancelled

1899 Was a good one too 👌 😢

@@JeffreyAndMaria Good point👌 I didn’t think of that as being a reason since I’m used to watch international movies that way.

Pissed aswell, the ending got me excited for what may come next and then it got sacked.

​@@JeffreyAndMariatell me you're American without telling me you're American 😂😂😂 here in the shitty country I live it's a sign of sheer stupidity to watch dubbed stuff 😂😂😂

Variation of The Dark Forest metaphor I think.

Didn’t read the novel so I have no idea what it means… care to share what the meaning behind that joke is?

just wait till the second season. the reveal is epic@@Someone_VIP

@@Someone_VIP Spoiler ********* Saul will blackmail San-Tie. He will threaten to reveal their location to even stronger civilization, just like Einstein revealed himself to God. This revelation can potentially cause superior god-like civilization to destroy San-Tie. This will be demonstrated by broadcasting signal of life from uninhabited star, and star being destroyed after 50 years. **********

@@Someone_VIP I hate that stupid joke and what they did with this scene. If you want to know, this is how the dialog between Ye Wenjie and Saul really goes. From the Prologue of the 2nd Book: “I’ve got a suggestion. Why don’t you study cosmic sociology?” “Cosmic sociology?” “A name chosen at random. Suppose a vast number of civilizations are distributed throughout the universe, on the order of the number of detectable stars. Lots and lots of them. Those civilizations make up the body of a cosmic society. Cosmic sociology is the study of the nature of this supersociety.” “But… ours is the only civilization we know of right now.” “Which is why no one’s done it before. The opportunity is left to you.” “Fascinating, Dr. Ye. Please go on.” “My thinking is that this can link your two disciplines together. The mathematical structure of cosmic sociology is far clearer than that of human sociology.” “Why do you say that?” “See how the stars are points? The factors of chaos and randomness in the complex makeups of every civilized society in the universe get filtered out by the distance, so those civilizations can act as reference points that are relatively easy to manipulate mathematically.” “But there’s nothing concrete to study in your cosmic sociology, Dr. Ye. Surveys and experiments aren’t really possible.” “That means your ultimate result will be purely theoretical. Like Euclidean geometry, you’ll set up a few simple axioms at first, then derive an overall theoretic system using those axioms as a foundation.” “It’s all fascinating, but what would the axioms of cosmic sociology be?” “First: Survival is the primary need of civilization. Second: Civilization continuously grows and expands, but the total matter in the universe remains constant.” “Those two axioms are solid enough from a sociological perspective… but you rattled them off so quickly, like you’d already worked them out,” Luo Ji said, a little surprised. “I’ve been thinking about this for most of my life, but I’ve never spoken about it with anyone before. I don’t know why, really.… One more thing: To derive a basic picture of cosmic sociology from these two axioms, you need two other important concepts: chains of suspicion, and the technological explosion.” “Interesting terms. Can you explain them?” Ye Wenjie glanced at her watch. “There’s no time. But you’re clever enough to figure them out. Use those two axioms as a starting point for your discipline, and you might end up becoming the Euclid of cosmic sociology.” “I’m no Euclid. But I’ll remember what you said and give it a whirl. I might come to you for guidance, though.” “I’m afraid there won’t be that opportunity.… In that case, you might as well just forget I said anything. Either way, I’ve fulfilled my duty. Well, Xiao Luo, I’ve got to go.” “Take care, Professor.”

You're very close with that last sentence!

I don't want to spoil stuff but that joke will be very very important down the line. It was also the point that Ye Wenjie decided to switch back her loyalty to humanity when it became clear to her that the aliens are coming here to exterminate humanity when she heard the last of their conversation with Mike Evans.

@@jportega9404 Yep, she's pretty convince I think that she's made the big mistake, and is attempting to rectify before she dies- that much I got from the episode. It was the scene preceding the joke in which we see her effectively talking with "empty air" in her house - but we know the sophons are always listening which is what makes me think the aliens know they have an issue - she literally tells the empty room she has "one trick left" - which possibly frightened the aliens as they know how smart she is. So that's why they're watching her. They presumably watched her go to the cemetery and tell the joke and know something has been passed to Saul but maybe (a bit like me right now) are struggling to understand precisely what and so they decide to simplify things by attempting to kill Saul. Which is the secret of why Saul is a Wallfacer I'd guess to the UN? The aliens are attempting to kill him, so he's dangerous to them, thus make him a Wallfacer and empower him? Which is a very bold step for the UN to make without knowing at all about the passed message and on the presumption that anyone the aliens want dead is probably good enough Wallfacer material... ? Feel I'm missing something on that one. Did she leave a message to someone (Wade? The UN?) about the message to Saul? Seems a big, big leap to make him a Wallfacer without a clue about the message? Bit lost on that one.

Great guess, just you wait too see how it unfolds

The joke involves Albert Einstein. There was a bookend of Einstein sticking out his tongue. Saul will later go to her house to make sense of their last conversation and see the Einstein bookend and find the two books. Saul will then know what to do.

Just you wait.

Sht about to hit the fan bro,,

If you read the books then the aliens turn out to be bugs. Literally. They are parasitic aliens similar to the ones from The Host. You can literally hold a San-Ti in the palm of your hand, they are like squid creatures. Their supposed gigantic fleet is the size of Lego’s. Literally. If Wills capsule made it to the fleet, the Santi would have no way of bringing him on board because the capsule is so gigantic. Imagine his capsule next to Lego pieces.. their cities are the size of Jenga blocks. That’s where their technology comes into play.

Twice in a row. Gotta read the books I guess @@RockyXu

I think that how the tech works , it mirrors what it believes is pleasing to us. It a dimensional computer that can unfold itself and spread across an entire planet, flicker stars, compose an eye ball in the sky composed of an inception building Lego nightmare! I'm sure it can come up with a pleasing avatar.

@hulkmad27 haha exactly... all deceptions. Which is the point. And the only error in the otherwise flawless logic in their backstory. No intelligent species survives anywhere without deception. "We do not understand." LOL yeah right, bish!

Trisolaran do not control the sofon when it is on earth. they can't communicate faster than the speed of light, that the reason they send it to earth in the first place. the sofon has to decide for itself in realtime what to do on earth. everything the sofon did is based on it own AI and understanding learn from the alien worshipping humans... so it was humans that taught it all this and created the images in the game... what we see in the game is just human understanding of the aliens. it not what the alien came up with themselves. what amusing and unsettling to me is it is believable to think human will help aliens destroy humanity... we are such a terrible species..

​@@hulkmad27it wasn't "making the stars flicker" themselves, it was unfurling itself across the planet and then made itself transparent and displayed an image of the stars behind it. That's why they had light points as if they were being seen through a telescope. It's sort of explained without saying anything during the "bugs" scene when it mirrors the surface of the planet instead

​​ @carpeimodiem that's not a deception.. they literally tell them straight up that they dont actually look like them and this is just for their benefit... Edit: but little red riding hood is the same thing sooo.. yeah I'm not buying their explanation either. They have ulterior motives

Watch the Chinese version it’ll really make you think since Netflix took out all the science

Read the books 👍🏾

​@@swampnugget9664or better yet read the books. Way faster and more accurate than a 30 hour series.

I wouldn't recommend the Chinese version to anyone who didn't already love the books. If you liked the Netflix show check out the book/audio book. They released a new version with Rosalind Chao (who played Ye) reading amzn.to/3xleGD2 If you like the book check out Tencent's version amzn.to/43BZ7TU If you don't have Amazon Prime you can find it on UKposts for free.

or read the book :) if you like to read that is . @@swampnugget9664

D&D have secured a 3 Season series with only 8 episodes per season.

I liked Clarence, he was my fave character.

​@@abelincoln8885I'm assuming that 2nd season will be most Dark forest. I just hope they handle the time skips/jumps well.

@@kirstencorby8465 He's a great character in the show, but even better in the book

was this lieing stuff in the books? i find it sooo dumb, it almost ruined the whole thing for me!

did she actually delete herself or was she killed by someone and we didn't see? like the cameras at Jack's house. I felt like the show was trying to hint at the idea that Tatiana might have been involved, like all the other scientists who "deleted themselves"

@@b1bbscraz3yshe ked herself since she found out what her mom has been up to

@@b1bbscraz3y she jumped into a neutron detector first ep

She never played the game i think its more so she found the messages with her mom’s connection to the aliens

It may also go back to her question about God. If aliens exist, are we here by chance? How lucky are we?

I remember Australia and the droplets can't wait

Indeed, but I think zombie shows already made us keenly aware of how that dystopian setting goes.

Just watched this yesterday. I enjoyed the show and have never read the books so I really don’t know where the story is headed. I feel like the following is going to happen: I agree that it’s dark at times but even more relevant to long term audience buy-in in my mind, is that at its core it’s an alien invasion story where viewers are going to be expected to watch 8 episodes, wait for a year and a half, then watch another 8 then wait again for another couple of years before actually seeing an alien invasion. My partner and I watch a lot of series and really like fantasy and sci-fi but both of us are pretty much hitting the wall of year-after-year “plot drip.”

You should watch Lexx where whole worlds are wiped out, children and all.

​@@carpediem6431 kind of like Stranger Things first came out.. A drag out type of series

Better than it coming out in 2424 😉

@@TheInterestingInformer No, not really. I wouldn't mind binge watching the whole series at once. I don't read one of the three books then wait a year to read the next book.

@@CosmicCleric it was a joke on the 400 years thing. 😐

@TheInterestingInformer I wasn't clever enough on initial post. 2424 would have been better. I haven't read the books, but now I wonder if the seasons will have dramatic time hops.

@@CosmicCleriche was making a dbl entandra, so to speak on the 400 year arrival.

there is a limit to what the sofon can do. there is just 2 of them so they can only be at 2 places at any one time, its really a gambit that they believe human don't understand it weaknesses and limitation. if the sofon can beat the human on their own, there would be no need to invade... to mask the mission would require dedicating one of them to that role of the entire duration. it is possible, but that would half what the sofon can do until the fleet arrives, it just not worth the afford. beside the success or failure of that mission would not change any outcome. the sofon concern is if humanity can develop a counter, their time is better spend spying on the leadership and messing with their data than staging a failure. they really only do those "trick" for short period of time... mostly for shock impact.

That is what I thought all along. If they can project simultaneous on every screen around the earth "YOU ARE BUGS" then surely a piece of cake to fake it in mission control. If they can screw with a particle accelerator even doubly so for a few comms links from Wills probe. How the Atomic reactions are triggered. well another matter.

@@andrewrossypretty much The Global hack was human Santi Cultists. Sophons can only affect limited quantum things, they are primarily for spying

They can still use that when Saul finally understands the joke and its message! Not all was lost ...

It's been so so so long since I read the first book and I completely don't remember that idea at all. People mention it, but, doesn't ring any bells. So, I wonder if in the grand scheme of the story if it's actually that significant to include when other stuff will more-or-less overshadow it.

@@scottwatrous It's about their conception of physics; things are the established rules of nature only because of limited information. Turkeys got fed routinely to the point they considered a law of reality until thanksgiving when they understood the truth. Storywise, it was really more detail to help establish the ETO and their introduction to the game. I wouldn't say it was significant as well, it just more of the mystery and the analogy kinda disappeared as soon as it came.

@@sws212 The Shooter/Farmer theories are one of the biggest takeaways I had from the first book. In the context of the pace, it's a jumping off point for explaining that the very nature of physics as we know it is all assumed based on principles, especially at this early point where all we really know is that scientists are dying mysteriously, 'physics isn't real,' and depending on which version you read, a few 60s flashbacks that are haunting but don't seem to have much connection to the story. The very namesake of the book hinges on the principles of those theories-- we've been learning the laws of the universe based on having one sun, and have an assumption of the calculations based on our small controlled pool. When we get thrown into the ocean, we'll be completely overwhelmed by the fact that every assumption we ever made on constants was never as constant as we imagined. I loved the simple CG anims from the Cdrama and admired the commitment to presenting them to the audience, since it _is_ important. The problem with condensing this book into so few episodes (not even eight, since they try so hard to frontload The Dark Forest) is that you can get to Operation Guzheng and dehydration and all the other big "WOW WEIRD" setpieces, and sure, it'll look pretty. But when you strip away the hard science behind the setting, when you make all of the major threats physical without subtlety, when you manifest a ten dimensional entity as a teleporting woman with a sword, and you replace the simple VR game with an alien artifact, you strip away all of the mystery and nuance that made the original book such a standout.

Whenever they brought up the turkey farmer metaphor they sh9wed a chicken. 😂😂😂 I wonder if that was intentional?

Or, in fact, that the duplicity inherent in being told ‘I lie’. They trust them enough to believe when told they lie, and the implication is that they cannot in fact trust them…. SMH

For the first few decades, they could only send/receive messages every 8 years because of the 4 lightyear distance between them. It's only in the last few months that their quantum entangled comm system has been on Earth so they probably didn't have a chance to speak casually like that until that moment.

@@JamesRoyceDawson 只有智子抵达地球后他们的通讯才实时和扩容了。

​@@joefunk1611 isn't this the Pinocchio paradox?

@@josephgarcia9076 ah yes! Indeed I believe you have identified it well!

I didnt rly get into the 2nd season, seemed meh from the first few eps - the first season was good tho. I like the idea of rich people getting progressively more insane and perverted as they age hundreds of years beyond normal. It's an interesting biological theory. That you'd eventually get bored of normal pleasures and need to murder women during sex over and over to get off xD sick shit

Agreed! Except Altered Carbon season 1 was awesome while season 2 was trash.

Hope you enjoyed it

Spoilers bro

@@steelenutz1it’s not much of a spoiler. I mean what is a dimensional strike? Who did it? Why would the San-ti destroy their new home? It just opens more Questions to be answered.

Or the Australian cannibal part

Watching the sophons scene, the geometry and when the camera enters one gave me hope for future "higher dimensional" related scenes

I know right!? Ppl that either haven’t read the entire series or only read the 1st book probably thought the show was “boring” but they don’t realize that it’s necessary setup for the next 1-2 seasons where the real story and crazy action/revelations will take place. Can’t wait!

Just like 1899-should of been a 3 season arc as you know + did great around the world. This has 3 novels as you know-and if Netflix cancel this I will be really pissed...... Have you read the novels?

Very accurate to the books.

Supposed to. What's the point of living longer if you end up dead and forgotten?

and they taking a lot of pills and alcohol

No for real tho... Like Netflix has a term or something in their contracts where they're like "must include at least 1 scene of people fuckin, as well as drug use of any sort." Like I promise you if there was an independent way to produce this show while still having the same money making ability, they wouldn't have had the intro look like that and they wouldn't have been smoking so much. And keep in mind I watched every episode stoned and thought this, like it's abnormal that all shows thru Netflix do this

Almost certainly product placement. Instead of writing something for characters to actually do during a scene, they can just sit and smoke while they deliver clumsy exposition. Beniof and Weiss are certifiably hacks.

I'm with you for the most part. What I like is that the show almost never contradicts what happens in the books. It's committed to telling the same story in its own way. And it is doing a good job in my mind. There's very little "well none of that was in the original trilogy" stuff that is completely different (unlike, say, the recent Halo series adaptation on Paramount) so where they do change things around, it's usually trimming down the fat or recontextualizing to keep things concise. You can always tell (if you've read the trilogy) where an invented scene is probably leading back to something in the original novels down the road. One who watches the show can go read the books and they'll get the same story but with more detail; not a completely different one. One who likes the science bits in the show will find that it's expanded on in the novel. But they didn't 'change' what the science is or means, like some adaptations might do. They (for the most part) don't try to dumb the science down to where it no longer works and doesn't make sense: they just don't go into as much detail on screen because they only have 8 episodes. The mechanics of how it works is still going on behind the scenes, and some of the plotting and scheming going on is just not being shown. (Such as figuring out the details of the nanofiber deli slicer)

It is understandable that the story is adapted for better dissemination, but the damn pink pig once again made the wrong casting choice due to absurd political correctness. Yuntian Ming and Luoji were wrongly elected and should not be played by pink pigs and nixxa

It is understandable that the story is adapted for better dissemination, but the damn pink pig once again made the wrong casting choice due to absurd political correctness. Yuntian Ming and Luoji were wrongly elected and should not be played by pink pigs and nixxas.

while you are right in your opinion the way that you address the others that dont think like you as an idiots is something that you may wish to work on. In your mind you know more and you superior cos you find imaginary set of ppl that are inferior to you based on characteristic you appoint to them.

This is exactly what I was thinking . People who have read the books , slamming the show on RT saying it’s not the same . But having it too hard core won’t open it up to a more general audience. If someone is so inclined after watching the show , will buy the books which is a good thing

imo. This was not high level sci-fi by a long shot. Too much was given a quick once over or there was little to show that was believable. Like for example the 30 nuclear weapons spaced out to accelerate the space craft to 1 % the speed of light. That is a mammoth project that would take many, many years to implement and yet no body seemed to age at all. There were more incongruous elements to this series that didn't work for me.

Hawking might be right... we really need to change how SETI work before it is too late.

@@lagrangewei SETI is still listening, but we have mostly stopped broadcasting

I thought the Raj situation reflected poorly on Jin not the other way around. Plus, since you read you can figure out the arc he's going to have in season 2. The whole relationship just wasn't necessary except that they could be connected.

@@PetePeppers1 Oh it did reflect poorly on Jin. What I had intended to say was that, to the audience Raj isn't in any way acting like the utter douche he's constantly being portrayed as by the other characters and that's pretty sloppy writing/directing.

@@dffndjdjd That's fair enough, I mean I can certainly understand Will's friends wanting him to be happy. There's like 4-5 separate times though where the rest of the group speak poorly about Raj and I don't feel they showed him being a jerk. Yeah, his last line to Jin is awful but she did just do him dirty.

Watch the Chinese version of this series, it's even way better. You can also watch the recaps in Daniel CC movie.

@@nutzhazel I did not know there was a Chinese series. Definitely going to watch it. Thank for letting me know.

So you will leave the adaption from the Free World for later .... because you enjoyed the adaptation from a Communist Regime. Hmmmm?

Chek Queni Story 3 body problem

I read them on Kindle - it’s been translated into English

It went to number one on Amazon since the show came out.

@@PetePeppers1 I just hope they do the 2'ding of our solar system right haha

lol, some sorry dehydrated ass will be fired

what would change?

@@ft_lesserchungus1192 It's like sending ur drone to earth along with it's remote control.

Idk, the Tencent version was accurate but it shows that you can be TOO accurate at times. The first book is my least favourite now having re-read the series in the run up to this show and so far, the only change that I don't agree with is dropping Trisolaran as a term in favour of the Chinese word. Speeding things up and cutting here and there is what they should do if they want people to actually watch.

@@seb.k3871Yeah, I'm not saying 30 hours was the correct way to do it, just that the mystery of wtf was going on was an important part of the story, and that is more or less excised from the Netflix version. Even the countdown numbers, which figure so heavily into the marketing of the Netflix show, ultimately aren't that important.

@@dffndjdjdWatching it on UKposts is especially odd, because there are episodes where entire stretches have the audio drop out and weird song choices play instead until the dialogue randomly comes back, probably due to music rights issues. I think there are aspects the Tencent version handles better because they have the luxury of time, but my point wasn't that it was better, just that it was hard to keep my brain from comparing the 2 while watching the Netflix version.

Perfectly said. The book is a Mystery/SciFi. This adaptation is generic scifi show of the week.

Will is such an important character later on as well.

@@RockyXuhow

@@carmencorp2167 A higher power will bring him back to life.

@@carmencorp2167 You are going to have your mind blown

If I remember correctly a human spaceship, Blue Lagoon(?), forgot the name, will “save” the Will/Tianming’s brain. But failed, and then the Trisolarans/Santi will revive him.

He will be picked up by the aliens and will be very important in Book 3

@@kevinsophiavideochannel5996i was already considering that we WILL see him again and he will be reunited with jin, so thx for the spoiler ;)

@@Anonymous-iw4hx see him again? yes. be reunited with jin? umm...

at what point in the 2nd book did "that" moment occur? half way?

Episode 5 very much felt like a Red Wedding moment for me O_o

I agree. Why season 1 was only given 8 episodes instead of the standar 10 that most shows seem to have now days baffled me, especially given the complexity of the story.

Yeah. The big plot hole for me is if the aliens want humanity gone, their sophons could do a pretty daggum good job of it. Heck, just blot out the sun for a few years -- send humanity into an ice age. That alone will basically halt human progress. And if that's not good enough, just scramble peoples' brains. At near light speed, you could basically erase humanity one by one in pretty short order. I get the impression that even now they want humanity to survive, but it's not clear to me why they've revealed themselves to be a threat to humanity but don't see fit to tell them what they plan to do once they get to earth.

they dont see or hear everything at once but they're fast, and COULD be seeing or hearing ANYTHING at ANY given time

He didn't really say he forgave her though, he mostly just gave her an opportunity to speak which was all she asked for.

Do not read the books you’ll be really disappointed

Most of the "traitors" were just children. It was an expected response.

I agree she sucks the life out of every scene

But she’s hot and its 400 years anyways. Who cares.

@@Captain.Obvious55 you must have earplugs in if you think she is hot haha

She a diverse woke young communist girl boss billionaire who just wants to spend other peoples money to help humanity .They spend half the show telling her how smart she is and it's so annoying .I'm guessing the books she is different. Wouldn't even surprise me if she is an asian man.

Link?

They did a REALLY great job. It is almost word for word from the first book and they kept the mystery and suspense intact.

uploaded first two episodes haven't watched yet

Link, please! I can't find it.

By far the best adaptation to watch. Bottom line….

He is the key. And his love of fairy tales will help humanity one day.

Telling nothing and telling lies are different, right?

Trust me. You don't wanna know what they looks like.

The book says that Trisolarans, their minds are transparent, they don't communicate with words, they use brain waves

Was thinking about the dyson sphere too. Could had avoided any possible conflicts

Because even as God like as they seem to humanity, they are it's still well beyond their abilities. Hard to explain more without going into spoilers, but they're not nearly as powerful as their followers give them credit for.

​@@BabyhjansDyson spheres require entire solar systems worth of resources. They can barely reach 1% the speed of light. Such a building project would be way beyond them. Plus that would be a huge red flag for the whole Dark Forest aspect of the series.

They are more advanced that Humas but nowhere near advanced enough to do solar system engineering.

Or, you know, they could just ask us. "Hey, we're four light years away and our planet is doomed, can we come crash with you?" They could terraform Mars.

The humans believe the aliens will have the technology to reconstitute his body, which they could then question/torture. And if he dies, then could just do it again and again. So not quite. But also, the aliens can't lie to each other because they seem to share a hive mind, which suggests telepathy of some sort. So, yeah.