I made a pact to not buy the next BF for over $50. Which means on sale.

Thank you. Be wise folks. Stop pre orders

I'm not even gonna buy it till months after release. Season 7 is what the game should have released as. Personally I made it from beta to season 1 only. Here it's pretty fun now. I just stopped playing FPS games because it's just depressing at this point😅

I didn’t buy 2042 until it was $10

just dont pre-order anything. pre-orders existed when it was physical copies. youd pre-order a copy to secure yours on release in case the game sold out. thats the whole point of a pre-order. pre-ordering a digital copy makes no sense at all. i didnt pre-order physical copies back in the day because there was still the chance that it was poor, but at least it had a reason to exist in that, if you didnt and the game was super popular, like og MW2 for example, you could potentially be waiting days if not weeks for the opportunity to pick the game up. with the games industry how it is these days, and updates to games being much easier to distribute, devs have become lazy. back in the ps2 days, the game had to be perfect at launch as there was no way to fix it once copies of the game were being made

It had a scoreboard at launch, but it was some weird "innovation" on the classic scoreboard for some reason.

It launched barely working at all. Such a step backwards from BFV.

Overwatch?

​@@CitizenKangbf5 was dogwater at launch too lmao

And squad chat

When you said Phillip at the end, that left a lasting impression. Meaningful stuff there.

Everybody forget Hardline if it wasn’t a battlefield game it would’ve been amazing

​@@hangthetraitors9047 i think people dont include it as much because it was a different company that made it. It felt different but im my opinion. Still good and i liked it

BFV is still the most wild one for me. They could’ve just made BF1, but WW2, and it would’ve been incredible. They tried to fix what wasn’t broke.

@@ottovonbearsmark8876 After calling their customers stupid and saying if we don't support their Woke agenda then we shouldn't be buying their games, they really needed to come out with a hit for BFV. It was pants. No sympathy for them. Phillip.

The assault boats were my favorite vehicle ever

That too all the while working on BF1 which was incredibly immersive

BF4 is still playable. PC has a great dedicated player base.

It's been that way ever since. The Euro division of DICE makes a lame eurostyle game (Europeans don't know why war is cool btw), and when they need to make the next mainline they give it to the American division and they actually care and know what cool is, so you get a lot of love from LA.

​@@PROAmateur01Xbox is still playable, most days, as well. There's generally always a DLC server up and a vanilla one.

It already is permanently ruined. Just look at the player base of older games. They're higher than newer titles. I'm still playing BF4 because I don't wanna play 2042.

I thought 2024 was the final nail on the coffin.

Yup they need to learn from this horrifying experience and go back to their roots. They should use BF3/4 as a template. It would be so easy to do! Screw the “live service” gimmick and take a page from Helldivers book and just release a great game at its core. THATS the winning strategy in the modern gaming sphere.

Last good bf was bc2

2042 already ruined it.

"This game still amaze me" *Generic thumbnail with a weapon animation*

He’s gotta make a living. I don’t fault these guy for doing what the algo forces them too. But yeah they all do the same thing, lol. Meta gun, this game is closing down, this game was a hidden gem, etc. I imagine the content creators don’t love having to cater to the UKposts algo also.

@@ryanjettonthey don’t have to cater to the algo. They can make good content and people with find it. Also Jack has a large enough base he could make whatever type of video he wants

Glad I’m not the only one who thinks this.

To be fair that sums up the battlefield community I see people saying BF5 is is actually good

I've heard him say this over the years when talking about future battlefield games and man I wanna play jacks battlefield! :D

They should remake Firestorm, but after the game is finished and been out for a while. Give people a chance to get used to the mechanics for several months, then drop it out of nowhere. For as much as they tried to copy COD, they really did do a 💩 job...

EA really just doesn't understand that standing out and offering a unique experience is the only way to survive in a super saturated gaming market, they see Warzone making a gazzilion dollars and the only lesson they can think is I want that. instead giving the creatives enough room to actually make something no one else is giving.

But free to play BR targeted at 8 year olds is what brings in the dollars for investors. What? You think they care about making good games anymore? That’s so 2015. 😂

​@@LordVader69420firestorm died almost immediately. No one played it. Same with whatever tarkov copy they made with 2042

Agreed. Battlefield already tried to do a battle royale mode with Firestorm and no one in the community wanted to play it. Doing another battle royale mode for the next entry would be a gigantic waste of money and resources. The focus should only be exclusively on franchise legacy game modes ONLY.

Should have been the future of battlefield games. Combined rush and conquest perfectly.

100% I second this. Felt part of such a large narrative. BF1 operations is to this day one of the greatest gaming experiences I’ve ever had

Felt like you fought for cause and not just go all on cod simulator with huge maps

Nope they will do battleroyal

Loved the story added to it. Gave the scenario more depth. Make a deep game, not a wide and shallow one.

Yup, needs more buzzewords

Hopefully Dice will come back to bf5. This game has a huge potential that they missed

@@roberti1343 I doubt it, they never go back to fixing pass games

I stuck with BF5 until the end. It was arguably the best game in the franchise if you played until the end. It had the best vehicle play by far and was so balanced.

When the game was actually getting good and they started to listen. It's like they doing this on purpose now as marketing for next game.

When it was starting to get better then they cut the damn update. WTF Dice?!

I feel like I'm taking crazy pills. It really is this simple, they don't need to reinvent the wheel. BF4 was awesome, just splice in the new parts of BFV and you're onto a winner.

Apparently, that's easier said than done...

Totally agree Bf4

I don’t know which character in 2042 ended up dying with the bomb and the boat, but Battlefield 6 should be what happened if it was the other choice and just give me a sequel to 4 that’s NOT this….

In retrospect BFV was really good (at the end) I loved the gunplay and even the cosmetics were good especially compared to what BF2042 offered

it was and is a fucking hero shooter lol. It was originally supposed to be just the Battle Royale 💀 game was fucked from conception

Well since the original DICE team doesn't exist anymore they're just trying to make their own fortnite.

They are probably going to try and copy HD2

can you say that also with modern warfare or any call of duty games. I don't think so

@@thingonathinginathing I think that's exactly it. Almost ALL the long time game devs left within the first few months of Battlefiel V's release, so it was almost entirely Battlefield newbie devs working on 2042, and yeah they just followed industry trends and tried to make their own FN.

I dread 2143, if that's what they're doing

it's time to accept the fact that the beloved battlefield franchise has met the same unfortunate fate as call of duty.

A lot !

@@mikaeldahlqvist399some initial leaked stuff seems to point to modern day

@@SexyFacecod is, at the very least, still incredibly popular.

commander too, throwing down the artillery and uav for the team, unless the enemy blew it up and engineers had to go out and repair it

I liked the idea of commander and it was neat but i didnt like using another device just to play it.

@@zeroa69 Agreed. but say there is a dedicated commander mode, that synchronizes with current games that allow commander mode, to take control.

Uh, who are these people

You forgot about the layoffs.

What? Can you be more specific?

@@raikoh05people above developers that dictate the core gameplay

@@-Subtle- *TRUE!*

Same developer who made 5 and 2042.

They have gone creative like they were and made THE FINALS. 🤟

Bf5 is really good gameplay wise, its the executives that call the big shots. If BF5 followed the more popular ww2 stories and didnt use dumb cosmetics the game would be on par with bf4

@@axelbrackeniers5488 agree with you on BFV, game came out amazing . If they somehow had a D-Day type operations then that would have been so good.

​@@RahulinMotion Yeah been having a blast with that game, DICE is dead

Exactly my thoughts. I loved 3 and 1

bf4 was literally the same game as bf3 but with the color correction turned down. you would only see a difference if you were console only and the jump from ps3/360 to ps4/one made it so you can finally play the full game. bf1 gameplay was lacking but it was way polished

BF5 was when it started to deviate. In fact, I'm gonna go ahead and say BF3 is when it started to deviate and regress. As I remember, in BF2, we had an active player based commander role that could authorize supply drops and artillery strikes and squads had 6 people in it. 3 and 4 didnt have that. I've noticed, every iteration of BF since BF2 has been removing features and we got to a point in 2042 where they removed the scoreboard. Wtf is happening? Bring back the commander role and make squads bigger ffs. Most people playing today will see that as innovative, lol.

@@TheNab89 BF3 is when it started to deviate and regress? Oh, please... all BF games are great before BF3 (BFH

Looks like you neglected to mention Hardline😂

Don't ever pre-order any game.

yepp never again. regardless of how the game is now 2042 was unacceptable at launch. ill give it a month or two before any potential purchase

All? Geeez you people need to stop calling yourself gamers if you people only buy and play the same 2 games every year 😂😂😂😂😂😂

@@KingJohnMichael ye nobody has a problem with that , people play games to enjoy them alongside their lives ,not be called gamers

You pre-ordered a game published by EA? LOL hilarious

TRUE😂

It got an fps boost on series x. Its wonderful

Dont forget about bf4!

​@@shock_clutch_1806a resolution boost to BF4 or BF3 for the current gen consoles would be a godsend

@@SquashMelendezdoes the resolution change? I know it’s 120fps on the series x but was wondering about the resolution

just olds man..

Yeah problem is 12 yo Kevins don't want this nowadays. They are looking for Fortnite copies. And EA is here to sell , not satisfy its fan base. Still I hope BF6 will be a love letter, for real.

@@brokernagy9038 im 17 and still play the game its imo the best game out there

BF4 sucks

@@GuitarooMan93 Quite ironic, that the goty last year was an old mans game which sold massively and got all the awards. Yeah iam talking about BG3.

Let me go watch some videos from that time before I like your comment. Because the builds that were played on were different from reality idk I’ll check them out

That's on YOU. Use your eyes. Also the beta. I played 20 minutes and it was the worst bf game ever made, bar none. And I loved hardline mind you (f everyone saying it's bad. It was awesome). Bf2042 launch was literally just the beta. 3/10, one of the worst games of the year

​@@kato093lol BF fanboys are worse like COD fanboys

Jack & Westie know, month sand months in advance. non disclosure statement. Obv they don't listen to them but they still see it long b4 we even see leaks. I love it when they talk and speculate about leak pics, they know if its real or not, they would have already played it, so be the way of the world. :)

Amen to that!

Jack being an unpaid executive

Wouldn't be the first time the suits at EA ignore great advice. They probably already planning furry skin lootboxes for all classes.

This should be top comment.

​@@KevKlopper oh no

Honestly it was gut wrenching as a huge Star Wars fan. The game was in a great spot and you kill it? Never made any sense seeing as the amount of battlefronts that see serious play are far less the battlefields. Battlefield still had 4 and 1 with a serious player base, but battlefront players only had the 2016 version which while not horrible is just not it for a lot of ppl. Unless u go back the 2005

Agree. BFV was almost a first class multiplayer game, it just needed tweaks and polish.

Honestly, Battlefront 2 was perfect and everyone loved it. The comeback it made was mad. Still playing for a BF3

The trouble is that their player bases were likely too low at that point to justify significant investment and *clearly* more resources were needed for 2042. What they need to do is release a game that's as polished as Battlefront 2 and BFV were by the end. If you have a bad launch it's a marketing disaster and impossible to recover from - even if you fix all the problems in the end. The issue is that the financial side of things demands that x game must be released is quarter 4 of some year regardless of whether it's ready. Great for shareholders, but it's short term thinking - effectively selling the brand's future reputation for cash right now.

​@@bigmansanister8716 Perfect? It's one of the worst entries in the Battlefront franchise

Especially if the release is planned for 2025, that does not give developers a lot of time. I don't know of any triple A titles that are on a single year development cycle, actually not even indie titles either. Most triple A titles are no less than 3 years.

@@johnj8639 The games been in development for prob 2 years now. There is only a small team for 2042 the past 2 years. the rest are making the next game.

BFV wanted to build off of BF1 and seemingly go down a route similar to Portal has, but negative backlash seemed to get it killed. 2042 actually got portal started but they really didn't expand it enough.

Sadly its the truth, they got them selves in a bad situation and to me they will have to prove them selves... I blame EA stright up!

Yeah but they completely fucked every aspect of that

Operations is what made bf1 the best game ever and they just failed to advance with it on bf5 and then I don’t mind the operations on 2043 but honestly the game is just not my cup of tea

BF1 operations blew my mind, made you feel you're a part of the war, when BFV came around i was dissapointed they couldn't replicate that

Enemy Territory Quake Wars already did that back in 2007.

Easily my favorite mode from BF1, made every match feel like it was worth something or we were fighting for something greater

I wanted him to carry on aswel.

Same

They also stopped further development for bf5 right when it was getting good with the pacific update. We never got a Soviet faction 😭

@@cristopher8186 It's an on going pattern that this cascade of companies are doing.

It's actually mind blowing how in star wars bf2 and BFV they were going good but then dropped....like why?

@@cristopher8186 bf5 was a clusterfuck too. I’m sorry but Dice needs to realize we need more iconic locations in historical set games. That and the fat that they put the Kar and Thompson at max class rank was dumb.

​@@bulldog2000I think you know why

The voices make them stop

Dont think anyone is sad

@@Prosthetics555 many are sad at how 2042 happen

lol

Yup this is a live service game. They want the success of bf3 and bf4 but those didnt have "seasons" whatever thats supposed to be but without a campaign. I played 2042 a few months ago when it was free. I was able to be on the top of the scoreboard just by using the drone to spot all the enemies all game. This type of game has no soul. I get a bigger thrill from playing rush on operation metro STILL than anything bf2042 has to offer.

Yh same with server browser and all maps please! Tired of same two maps for 3 days!

Legacy features like that cost extra.

I think bf4 + bfv's movement+gun mechanics would slap. Legit if it had a battle Royale it would go crazy. They really missed a big chance With firestorm

This is the way

This is the way

i was expecting BF2042 to morph into this kind of thing over time when they added the throwback maps, but it never happened. DICE needs to make battlefield more of a hub experience where you could access multiple eras and game modes.

@@hudster501 nah I don't think a hub would work. I think it would split the player base too much. They either go all out on a battle Royale next game or the series dies.

They fumbled BFV so bad. BFV started slow, got good, slowed down, was starting to really hit stride and then they stopped. 😢

@@SPIIIVAthey really shoulda made Firestorm ftp

These suits know nothing!

I don't know, I kinda skipped BF1 and BF5 and got back late into the games, I feel like they blew things off when the game was actually very decent

@@Skateandcreate9 100% it had potential

"Who can we hire to help us design a good game for once?" "Jacob, 22 years old, 215lbs, currently works at Wendy's" "Perfect."

According to Shroud, they hired 40+ online streamers to help them in game development and they didn't even listened or implemented even one thing what these streamers suggested.

Mark my words, nothing has been learned. Game will be incomplete and bare bones, 2 years to overhaul and lazily stitch together features standard since 2000, 6 months of extra battle passes, End of Life, next Game revealed, repeat.

@@uzairminhas414 TBF, Streamers/influencers are probably some of the worse people to go to for actual good advice on how to improve your game. At least with Battlefield anyways. Shroud is a perfect example of this. I watched him react to that "Battlefailed 2042" video. I heard more than enough things leave his mouth to make me wish he'd just stay playing whatever hyper-competitive twitch-shooter is popular this month, and hope he's never in a position to actually influence this franchise. Also, I believe it was Lossy and/or JFJ that said most of these content creators whom DICE was consulting were basically just yes-men who never criticized any of the dumb decisions they were making.

@@midknight9715 agreed

Jack is saying that you still need to be able to tell you're a medic though

Dont forget BF1

BF1's atmosphere was pretty crazy imo. its one of the reasons why i loved it so much despite some issues. charging with your teammates only to get mortar striked in a trench and tanks rolling in was EPIC

The great tragedy is that a lot of what BFV did as a game was absolutely excellent, and it's overshadowed by the technical failings. A lot of people talk about BFV and 2042 the same way, but the truth is 2042 has nothing good under the hood, no unrealized potential, while BFV had a ton. BFV has moments that are more fun than 2142. At times, it is PEAK. They could've done it right if they'd taken more time and not made some very stupid, obvious decisions. 2042 was doomed... So the games are getting WORSE while they try to reel themselves in from failure. I expect no success from them under this kind of pressure, and I think it's safe to say the franchise is dead.

@@superfamilyallosauridae6505i could not agree more!

BF 3, 4 and 1. 5 did it's best to make sure people wouldn't be able to take it seriously.

No one lol.

The millions of people who played BR

@@baylorbear0358 battlefields br was a fucking absolute failure lol. What in the hell are you talking about. Go play warzone then.

@@blazinrounds230 I do play Warzone. Battlefield could maybe get back those thousands of players they lost if they brought back BR. Some of us like playing a competitive mode. Not some pointless multiplayer.

@@baylorbear0358tarkov gameplay like battlefield would be fun

More often than we would like for EA

Well, what happened with BFV was a troubling start, slow fixes and eventually an amazing game still played by FAR more people than BF3 or BF4. The only sad part is that they stopped development before they gave us the Eastern Front.

First of all I'm a bf fanboi have been playing since bfbc2 and let me tell you 2042 is better than bf4 it only lacks good maps. But other than that the gunplay everything else is pure bf experience with 128 players and huge maps and I will preorder 😉

​@@McShag420 wrong played bfv since open beta it has no troubles it was awesome experience after bf1 . I still switch BTW bf1 `, V and 2042

@@aspirewot8408 yea bro I'm sure the G sliding, specialist system, and tac sprint ripped from call of duty is pure battlefield. Game doesnt even remotely resemble the formula that made the series popular.

Definitely nerf sliding though. The fact that you could slide at full sprint speed and then immediately and seamlessly transition back into sprinting while not losing any speed was terrible.

bfbc2*

I loved the close quarter maps in bf3. The audio of gunshots and grenades going off in the hallways was next level.

We definitely need it to be modern

Was about to say this, crazy how I would rather play a game 13 years old than the new one. Somehow bf2042, after that many years of making battlefield games, is worse in every way to the likes of bf3, and bf4 it's just sad

Lol go play bf3 portal in bf2042, lmao 😂

Battlefield 2 was one of my earliest and most cherished online gaming experiences. I played nightly with a dedicated squad and ever made a few great friends that I eventually met IRL. Both Bad Companies were fantastic as well and I even liked 2142. But there's definitely a light that has died in these games since BF1/Hardline. BFV and 2042 just kind of felt par for the course after those. I really hope they can get the cart back on the rails, but we'll just have to wait and see

Thank you for your service.

Same, but I still be playing Battlefield V The Pacific War. 2042 might as well be Fortnite.

Same. Hey brother, never forget why the sky is blue

​@@silence_castor BFV certainly had its issues I dont deny that, but at least it had the quality of the game shown in its graphics which were amazing, detailed environments, gun animations, and the gameplay felt great and flowed well. BF2042 on the other hand...had none of these things, all on top of being a shlt game

@@thingonathinginathingbait

@@thingonathinginathing that’s fair, especially at the beginning of 4. I played it a lot more after they added a lot of stuff like the BF3 maps and weapons. It is hard to beat the destruction in Bad Company, but I personally liked the amount in BF3 so that there was still the skeletons of the map left

Saddly this is the truth and people will keep buying Early Access games and be dissapointed and they will complain about it but yet again they will buy another early access game and complain again its an endless cycle

​@@Gh3ttoboy I have better things to do than hope it gets better. Im just glad I was around during the golden years of the franchise. As for the future, they wont be getting my money and thats what I actually care about.

I am still upset about battlefront 2 4 years later lmfao

Also Dead Space 2 remake

@@lazyvoid7107 dead space 2 remake was supposedly never on the cards due to poor sales of the first one - EA just released a statement

BFV core gameplay and feeling is the best in the saga imo. If BF6 takes it from it and pushes it to the next level with a modern setting, the game would be like no other.

@@GuitarooMan93Totaly agree with you there! The movement was amazing (crouch running wow! That was cool) The gunplay was amazing too until they fuck it up, but they fixed it... kina! Feels great now! BFV was a great live service game in my opinion, not even comparable with BF2042.

Yeah and just like jack’s video showing BFV in 8k demonstrates how the graphics of the game looked very realistic too, compared to BF2042 which looks good but has a plastic feeling somehow. And yeah the fact you could crouch sprint was great. Really if they take the best of BFV, put it in a modern setting with next gen environment destruction, it would be a masterpiece imo. And about destruction, they recently added this statement about destruction on the Frostbite engine description: « NEXT LEVEL DESTRUCTION Massive and progressive damage on terrain, architecture and vehicles which even enables altering the flow of a map or level. » So hopefully we can expect some really cool feature for BF6. Just look at how crazy the destructions look in The Finals, so imagine what they could do in a Battlefield.. There is hope.

@@GuitarooMan93 Honestly I feel like most BF player went to play the final. Destruction/construction feel great! And yea BF2042 had the worst graphic especially on last gen. I was use to the desert map from BFV and then I played on hourglass... I hated that sand so much you have no idea. ;P BFV sand look amazing tho!!!

I play 2042 a lot. But I've gone back and am playing BFV again. Its awesome! Grand Operations was such a great mode. Made it feel way bigger! Love the music and narration. So much was right about this game. Calling in artillery, fortifications. Bring it back!

how do you cancel something that never truly started? 😂

Yeah I don’t think that anyone was suprised by this it’s just EA

@@Swole_Gecko we all knew it was never going to be that game from like two days after launch 🤣

*anyway

​@@Largentina.No. Anyways...

Even Portal is awful. Imagine that. They could've at least finished Portal... which would have saved 2042.

@@thingonathinginathing Portal will be missed by me and a community of hundreds, who had a unique mode played by thousands daily, that died because of long unpatched bugs and fast drop in support for the game as a whole until they started really fixing everything. It was 128 player infected, and it was amazing.

@Sinclair_USMC Imagine what portal mode could've been, man lmao 😪

This game will be remembered by how burned I felt as a fan. They called this a love letter? I call it a slap in the face

Agreed. Bad company 2 was insane

Because BF4 was good on launch? 😂

Franchise would be saved!

9:00 hell Na you kidding me ?? Battleroyal mode 😂

@@aspirewot8408 fire storm was one of the best battle royals i have played in my opinion

I would pre-order the game then and there.

@@KZ-sg4esor more probably ruined completely, oh wait, it is already

Yeah but 10x better

give me BFV gameplay and mechanics, in a BF3/4 setting. thats literally all they have to do and we will have the best battlefield possible. but we will get another hero shooter i bet

Why? BF1 and BFV have far more players than those games. BF1 has been ranked No.1 by BF fans, universally.

​@@McShag420When did they do that statistic? They asked every BF fan?

2042 feels goofy a parody of battlefield lol

Amen! The sound design in BF1 is phenomenal!

best hacker pc and console..

They nailed it with BF1 in that aspect. First time I played Operations I was blown away. I still remember me and boys going crazy in chat and on mics in Kaiserschlacht .Seeing that Behemoth coming down just recking everything still dope to watch.

Been saying that since Battlefield 4

behemoths were cool too from bf1!

They were great times, when my D12 clan were taking heads and kicking names.

rush on damavand peak, was literally peak

Bf2 was by far the best battlefield game, who played it knows it😊

@@eagle-2headed843 agreed

This 💯

3 would be better in every way possible. Bf4 maps was nowhere near the level of bf3..