the scary thing about samsonov is, he decided very early in his career to focus on founding a family and not to push his career to the limits and still top 10 for almost 2 decades.

TTCyger Really? I didn't know this fact about Samsonov

@@devertz995 saw an old interview from him when he was still playing for Borussia Düsseldorf.

@@crescentbabu7855 scary in a good way. I just imagined how strong he would be with more determination

Yes his ball placement was far superior.

But only one was the best in the world for about 10 years, and it wasn't Samsonov; but Waldner was well past his peak here.

@@racketman2u NO... Ma lin and Liu Guoliang and Kong linghui were in same level if not better

Samsonov still alive in top 20 in 2019. tabletennis.guide/alldata.php?name=vladimir-samsonov-108246

@@maxfactor4209 Waldner demolished Kong Linghui most of the time,he beat convincingly Ma Lin in the Olympics and turned around his rivalry against Liu Guoliang winning the last 3 matches.He is far above them in achievements .

@@dickn.ormous1064 Samsonov had better longevity but waldner is the better player overall and by some margin. Sadly samsonov was never able to win an olympics or world championships.

Ma lin

да просто руки длинные

Watching Sterneborg's expressions was more entertaining than the match.

The coach be like: “Yeah, I’ve got nothing. You’re getting a taste of your own medicine!”

Согласен

Оба обладатели идеальной техники

I don't think that's the explanation...Just a year before that he was able to win timo boll and ma lin in the olympics

@@marciovinicius862 Samsonov was a more difficult opponent for old Waldner.Last time he beat him was at the 2000 Olympics and he had to pull crazy forehands to hit through his defence. Samsonov was 1,90m good from both wings,Ma Lin as good as he was had poor defence and his short game had little effect on Waldner. Different match ups.

Martin Johnsons boll

Timo boll

40mm ball had inconsistent bounce.

It is possible, but my observation is based on the point at which it happens. Also, the ball would not bounce irregularly for one player only:-)

I can promise you that he would have known that and adjusted his game for it. He's been in the world elite for almost 35 years, he knows all the materials. It was just humid and the modern rubbers back then performed shit in humidity. It probably is like so that he had a new series of rubbers played in low humidity and this was the first really humid game, and he went with the calibration for "old rubbers". That's my cent...

​​​​@@andreaseriksson8803 Waldner as good as he were didn't have a natural bh loop/counterloop, which is why he had troubles against short pimples. He did adjust for example against Liu Guoliang but he had to do special training and after the 2000 Olympics he had too many injuries to adjust to the 40mm ball. Hell,even Samsonov didn't really adjust his backhand to the 40mm ball as evidenced by his 2003 WTTC match against Kreanga. It was mentioned by many players at the time than bh driving/blocking didn't work with the 40mm ball because the two hemispheres had different hardness and you couldn't know which side of the ball you're hitting. One can see how Wang Liqin changed his bh to a more loopy counter movement with the 40mm,altough he was still weak against players with good bh.

@@dickn.ormous1064 I can agree with most of your analysis there. As a fact he didn't have a strong "modern" bh loop although all in all he had a strong bh. It was just that his bh loop was of the 90's model.

Jingf Pu lol! 🤣🤣 Wake up bro!

Asian women should not be allowed in the arenas. They have given me EIGHT broken windows over the years, because of their loud voices. (the voices themselves, not me throwing the racket....ok, one time)

Dont think so, 1995 wttc team final he handled it well

Agreed. I believe this obnoxious crowd noise (at pro-level events no less) was one of the reasons why these televised table tennis matches couldn’t catch on here in the U.S. I for one, couldn’t stand to even watch this. Can you imagine if the crowds were like this at a pro tennis match??

@@dennisfrancis1126 win loss mean too much back then

super mario got a new job ....rumor has it

LOOOOL

His problem was not equipment issues but Samsonov. That's how he expressesed his hoplessness: blaming the rubber

Waldner seems to have a habit of blaming something other than himself when losing a match. Another time when losing badly to a Chinese player, he started to rub his shoulder as if injured.

Was much more spin in the ball. Now the game is faster but with less rotation

Time Bol was an active player 14 years ago,so Waldner would adjust his game to the modern standards

Rubber and sponge technology vastly improved after 2008. And there have been very recent advances in rubbers and sponges also. Plastic balls are used now too, which tend to spin a little bit less than the celluloid balls. And hell, even blade technology has improved considerably in recent years. This is why the game looks different nowadays. Player styles play a small part too. And the styles are now being shaped by the new technology in the equipment. It's all about power shots, power blocks, and agility from the player. And honestly, Waldner wasn't overly heavy on spin, and he wasn't overly powerful either. His greatness stems from manipulating his opponents' shots. He would set you up with a decent look at your "best" personal shot and usually he would get you to hit it cross-table to his backhand. And boy, he loved the backhand block. He would block up the line a bunch too. And he was such a master at manipulating the play like that, that it was really difficult to get him out of his setups. I'm sure he had tons of setups and finishes. And he could pull him off. Nothing else even mattered. Waldner in his absolute prime would SMOKE any current top guys like Fan Zhendong. It doesn't matter how quick Fan moves. Waldner will make it look physically effortless and totally smash Fan. JUST SAYING!

@@ttjesus4959 Bro this is what waldner did to yan sen in wttc 1997. He purposely let him play his strong forhand just to say "This is the best you got?"

The sheer speed and spin from the ball right now is slower but nowadays the ball is played mostly off the bounce or at the highest point in his arc which results in faster paced rallys and less time for reaction. Despite rubber and sponge advancement, speed glue was faster.

samsonov's rubber was weird could be some sort of low friction or anti-spin

Все у Володи хорошо, только цепь мешает.

гоняет Вальднера, как зайца))))

Eloi Mumford Like better the fall harder non more I told her to leave me all alone that wat she’s done that lonely one and now I can’t longer I footstep pong is very hard bye

These days it just called "booster" and most of the pro players still use it. Especially the Chinese. It's too expensive for the regular Joe to use though since "boosting" rubbers decreases the rubber's life considerably. They should really ban boosting too so everyone is on a level playing field. I would boost my rubbers too if i had an old Asian man to do it for me and then assemble all my bats. It's tricky, time consuming, and expensive and a bit wasteful. Rubbers that may last 2 or 3 years unboosted are only good for 2 or 3 months boosted.

@@richardfuckstick1433 ... and F1 should use mainstream tires as well. Level playing field MY ASS. You egalitarians make me sick.

Zumal hii m

but he played 5 years to long.

He was better then all the Chinese player's. The Chinese today have it easy since Europe is so much weaker than 20 years ago. Timo Boll is still a top player today tells something a bout how easy it is.

FZD is not bigger than Kong Linghui and has a big belly,Waldner would've smacked with his forehand.

Just typical Chinese. Same everywhere.

just like Harimoto clone that was built in China

Waldner always was too tricky for Vladi. ...I never understood Waldner's so called "genius". Clumsy style, no fitness at all, technique is close to amateur... Never liked this player. But he has demonic concentration and intuition, and they almost always led him to success...

Wow, that comment is going out on a limb. Certainly the Chinese always said Waldner had flaws, but they were comparing minor differences from perfect technique of the time. However, his ability to disguise what shot & spin he was hitting made him unplayable at his best. Even here, way past his physical best, he shows what he can set up; but he failed to finish off many positions and Samsonov is way too good not to capitalise.

He was very agile in his prime and could hit great shots on the run.His technique was simply exceptional even by modern standards.His forehand loop and serve was the best of his generation.His aerobic capacity was elite pentathlon level.

yeah

Easy on the eye?

And waldner didn't have longevity, then?

Samsonov's revenge was actually his 3-0 victory over Waldner in 2001 WTTC. Only 4 yrs needed. They met 5 times. Waldner won the first 2 meetings in 1997, 2000 and Samsonov won the next 3 meetings, 2 in 2001 and this match in 2005.

@@pham1020 they met far more than 5 times

@@dickn.ormous1064 Why are you saying this?

Not really revenge. Waldner old his level had drop alot since 97. This loss didn't mean much

@@somebose7395 It is a revenge. A win is a win. It is a World Cup match and it means something. Waldner not being as good as in his prime is not Samsonov's fault. Since he was competing then he better prepared to get his butt kicked.

Он формировался как теннисист в 70-е и 80-е годы, тогда этому не уделялось столько внимания.

Welt Meister Weil Waldner alt geworden ist

Feuer Dämon Möglich, aber egal zu leicht.

It's a match up thing.Persson has the reach and bh to keep up against Samsonov who has a similar style to him.But he wouldn"t beat Ma Lin in 2004.Also the Olympics had lighter schedule compared to WTTC which helped veterans.

Идиот - это вы. В Шанхае был единственный ЧМ по НТ, это 2005 год. Других ЧМ за последние 90 лет в Шанхае не было. Первое фото в статье - с этого ЧМ tabletennis.hobby.ru/other/lenta05-2005/04-05-2005.shtml

Moderm ping pong is trash. The real table tennis was in 90's and 00's

oh yeah? why does some top classes like you put a shit comment on youtube

Just typical Chinese audience. Same everywhere.