absolutely vile

This shit is just corny.

Lmfao

Timestamp LMAO

Bro had the lotus suit skin on 💀

That and when he said how about you pop some more pills and say what you’re really feeling was coldddd

I love this about Harry in this game

He was destroying the shit outta Kraven FR

@@itsascendingfrSPOILERS Later in the game, Harry becomes Venom and kill Kraven.

@@Ranchson IK I already finished the game, Venom was OP

Harry 2-0 against Kraven

the original black suit didn't have any of this Peter was just racist

@@qudsiamahmood9187”racist”😂😂😂 wtf

That's not it. The symbiote amplifies the bloodlust and anger and frustration of the host the longer it's on

We meet again. Based comment, I loved how they portrayed the symbiote and how it affects Pete!

If you pay close attention to dialogue you’ll notice harry “talking to his mother” while in treatment. It was the symbiote. I don’t have it all here but I can tell you Peter did not make the symbiote evil in this storyline as much as I actually like that idea. It was already planning on taking over the world, it just forgot what it’s purpose was UNTIL you touch the meteorite again and it remembers it coming down here, that it has a purpose, combine that with eventually getting on harry and it uses the fact it spoke to him in his mothers voice to manipulate him into finalizing its plan and “healing the world”. In comics venom was never inherently evil, it was mad at spiderman for rejecting it. Eventually being good. In this story venom is inherently evil, and it’s host isnt. So, it has to manipulate harry into thinking he’s doing the world a favor. He never even came to terms with the fact he’d ever fight Peter, by the time you’re at the final fight and he shows his face he’s confused and scared. Also, upset that the suit has taken control of his body completely, trying to destroy Peter and miles. Basically what I’m trying to explain is the symbiote is evil from the beginning, it just doesn’t remember exactly what it needs to do until after the second lizard encounter

Lets not forget that also the symbiote is easily controlled by the host emotions for example Carnage emotions changed the color of the symbiote to red.

​carnage is red because it attached to cletus's bleeding hand in the comics

Yuri is channeling his inner Sasuke energy mixed with Bully Maguire.

@@momokosakurada605yeah this some straight cap

@@googoogagapeepeepoopoo1783the carnage part of the emotions being controlled by the host part

Same here, man.

I just whispered “Oh… oh no.”

It gave me chills all around 😖😖

Zoom from the flash had the same voice.Is the same voice actor for venom and zoom?

Spectacular Spider-Man, when Peter slept through the entire Sinister Six fight

This wasn’t me wearing the suit, it was the suit wearing my body. It’s some kind of symbiote. “Still, what do we care. Sinister six goes down hard and Parker gets paid for the pics.” Spectacular Spider-Man

​@EpicTastyPapple "Still, what do we care? The Six were put down hard, Parker gets paid for the photos what else matters?"

Kill la kill dilemma

@@spider-man500”Pete, where have you been? Your aunt-“

Evil is a point of view. And from my point of view, forcibly taking control of other people's body and mind, making them aggressive to the point of being feral, covering the entire city in black goo, all that serms pretty evil.

​@@rlacksgh9673In the first hour of the game, Miles himself tells us that Peter was angry and frustrated, just because he holds back all the time does not mean that he is a being of pure goodness who would never react in an aggressive way

@@rlacksgh9673 To play a little bit of devils advocate for my favorite villain/anti-hero in Marvel, Venom/Peter was getting aggressive, but they didn't start acting villainous until they touched the meteor and Connors mentioned destroying the symbiote, I feel like that was the straw that really sent it into overdrive as far as Peter/Venom's distrust and hostility to anyone that wasn't them.

Everybody is 'evil', but some people is openly evil, while others is just in thoughts...this is human nature, there's no pure good and evil.

​@@rlacksgh9673that's not really "evil" though. All that is, is a biological creature following it's natural instinct. Just like we humans eating from the planet itself (plants, animals) it might be considered evil but we are following are instincts at the end of the day.

I’m legit just turning around and going home

I just wish u could have the moves be black with the suit option instead of white

@@onlyson2003 same, it's so distracting

​@@CrazyAlfYThopefully they will add it in the next update because a lot of people are alr upset at that and reasonably so cuz it is so off putting with the white goop

Nah the OG Black Suit will always be more iconic.

cmon its all about the anti venom suit.

Nah, I’d say turning the entire city into little versions of you to take over the planet is a little bit evil. . .

@@oidunn4 It may talk and all, but a symbiote comically is no more than an animal. Doing what its instinct tells it to

​@@sh-tx1fdI'd argue it's smarter than an avg animal. much smarter. it knew emotions and manipulated them in its hosts. so it was willingly taking over the planet

Prior to this the symbiote attempted to latch on to Peter before he even got hurt. Most likely sensing he’s stronger than the average human and wanting a stronger host

@@om5621 as per its instinct to take over the world to expand knulls kingdom

I think the voice actor for black cats husband died of cancer while this game was being developed, and the fact that they managed to still include her in. Fun way is great.

I can only think of Oliver Swanick

Poison from that one what if comic being adapted would be fire

@@rommelalves4459 Yeah! I hope they execute it differently though. The comic was weird 😅

@@rommelalves4459or a Spider’s Shadow storyline, with him rampaging through the city killing villains left and right ending with the tragic death of Miles or MJ at the hands of Peter

I mean, the main game pretty much says what would have happened. Peter would have taken on Venom’s monstrous form, and the symbiote would have used him to spread itself all over the world. It simply would have used his guilt complex rather than Harry’s messiah complex, but the result would have been the same.

YOOO FRRRR ARE WE NOT GONNA TALK ABOUT THAT😂😂

35:13

HAHAHAH IKRRR THAT WAS SOO SUS

Tbf it did make Harry a little be more aggressive when he dog walked kraven after he stabbed Peter

@@SlickDemieveryone would wanna tear apart the person who mortally wounded their best friend

@@Bigfobbies Obviously but it certainly amplified his anger quite a bit

@@SlickDemiwhat about before?

He hit a pedestrian during our bike ride on my play through. It was too late for him

Symbiote*

hes wearing it for like a 3rd of the game

I'm glad we didn't because it mentally hurt me seeing Peter act like a asshole

@@Diablo3364 then you shouldn’t be playing the game or like Spider-Man we all knew what the Symbiote does it alters your personality and mind

@@andrelong1410 I liked the game and enjoyed the symbiote sections it just hurt me to see peter insult the lizard the way he did.

I agree. That was kind of ok, too. Though in that universe, "the suit" as it was called, is actually more of a vampiric organism, that could physically eat its host.

@LethalProtector8000 Yeah that was weird I mean the suit as it was called like you said was made to sure cancer. So like here in the game was gonna cure Harry if his disease I did like that Idea the symbiote being a cure for diseases but felt like it being man made was a bit out of place. We know symbiotes can heal there host if injured so why not from illnesses too felt in the Ultimate universe it could have been an alien still but then Peter and Eddie's find out that it doesn't just heal you but try to take over it's host while doing so

​@@shadowspidey7327It was also unfinished as well.

@@thetraveler2224 Uh huh needed more time

@shadowspidey7327 Don't forget its funding also came from a company wanting to weaponize it. Which is probably where the enhanced strength comes from. The scientists also died as well. With the proper funding, scientists, and development, it would have been a medical marvel.

​@@OverLorD768 true

Oh, you mean the Great Value Dead Space? Everyone's forgotten about that one by now.

​@@OverLorD768To be fair even in horror games it's kind of absurd how obnoxiously slow people are. I can at least forgive Isaac since he's wearing a metal bulky suit.

​@@RetroCubetrue

What dafuq do you mean by that dude? Put some respect on Isaac Clarke name.

Yeah and kraven laughed like he was just having fun lmao

​@@masdandaniel8509i mean Kraven did wanna die

True, i wanted to see him make lethal attempts on villians lives and have miles be like 'dude, what the hell are you doing?!' maybe have police shooting at him, or better yet scenes like the black symbiote vs shocker meme. like very nearly cross the line of being a villian. this version was a bit PG

@@ggmasterguiltygear6315 While a bit more of Symbiote Spider-Man would have been better, it was mostly to introduce and foreshadow Venom, and how its influence over the more unhinged and resentful Harry Osborne would lead to chaos.

@@ggmasterguiltygear6315symboite spider man wouldn’t do any of that, he isn’t evil he just becomes more ruthless and uncaring.

Symbiote increases aggression etc in correlation to the personality, trauma and goals of its host in this universe.Hence why Harry wanted to "heal" the world by making everyone a symbiote since it was bonded to him with the sole purpose of healing his cancer and deep down Peter wanted to be a better spiderman by any means necessary which was amplified by the symbiote to the point peter lost control.Basically removes any consideration for restraint and impulse control.If symbiote was outright evil and wanted to take over the world it would've just took the meteorite when Peter visited Dr Conners to find out what it was.

@@ggmasterguiltygear6315 AMEN BROTHER now we gotta go to the fanfiction writers and get this shit knocked out fr

And this was peak asshole Peter he could have literally bitch smacked her for talking to him that way it shows just how powerful a mother can be when it comes to her baby

*scold him in spanish so loudly the symbiote fucking cries and slithers away*

Yea out of ALL the things Miles could say he complains about not being called

Pretty valid if you ask me, bro sidelined miles for harry like miles didn't have his back for the last 3 years ​@@sideways_chip_eater6420

Loool

Spidey is scarier. He would pull out a parking meter off the ground with one hand and beat you with it

Spider-Man. Evidence: 29:00

they nerfed Peter so much in this game, he was far stronger in tje first game

​@@theamazingspooderman2697how? Dude got stabbed with a poisonous knife.

​@@oldschoolanime3398yeah, spiderman is really strong, but he isn't invincible

​@@theamazingspooderman2697nah kravens that strong

the problem was that peter held back when fighting thats why and if he went all out he would have killed Kraven. Tbh the poison was even stronger than the one scorpion had since kraven must have created a poison that peter hasnt made the antidote for@@oldschoolanime3398.

You truly are venom's advocate 🤌👍

FINALLY someone who understands how the symbiote works, sometimes it overwhelms me that everyone thinks that the symbiote is a being of pure evil, when in fact the situations that it lived and the people with whom it was related were what shaped his personality, literally the first thing the symbiote does when it sees that Peter is hurt is to protect him and heal him because it knows how much Harry loves Peter, but when he saw how bad Peter was (both physically and psychologically) he decided to stay with him to try to cure him, Peter feeling more free took out all his frustration and anger that he has been holding for years, which negatively influenced the symbiote making it aggressive.

Counterpoints. The Symbiote immediately tries bonding itself to Peter the moment it and Harry realize Peter is Spiderman. This clearly indicates that it's primary concern wasn't to "protect it's host" because it bonding to Peter would mean dooming Harry, it's current host. Later events clearly imply that the main reason it wanted to bond to Peter was because Peter's unique biology empowered it and allowed it to spread all over the city. The fact that it was able to influence Harry's dreams and masquerade itself as his mother to stoke his desire to "heal the world" also suggests an intelliigence with motives beyond "just protect host". So from the very beginning, we can infer that the Symbiote always intended to infect multiple hosts and spread over the Earth. You can argue that Harry influenced the Symbiote and not the other way around, but the last chapters of the game clearly establish that Harry is out of the driver's seat; he immediately realizes that what he's doing is wrong the moment the Symbiote loses it's influence over him. The Symbiote Invasion is clearly an idea the Symbiote had, not Harry. I don't think the Symbiote is pure evil but it's not this misunderstood entity that isn't malevolent or dangerous of treated kindly. It's a sentient virus. It's primary goal is to ensure it's survival. And the logical conclusion to ensure it's survival would be to obtain multiple hosts. It's as simple as that.

@@Birthday888 I haven't followed along with the whole "Knull" thing since that's a fairly recent inclusion I think, but it kinda goes back and forth on it depending on the universe it's in but the general canon is that the symbiote is benevolent and takes on the subconscious and conscious traits of whatever host it's attached to, both to keep it's host healthy and happy while reaching it's end-goal of complete synchronization, as for this universe specifically I feel like there's enough ambiguity regarding it's intentions and influences that lands Venom squarely in the center of interpretation. To me Venom/Peter was mostly fine until Venom reconnected with the meteorite/Knull hivemind and Connors mentioned removing it from Peter and destroying the symbiote, that put Venom in survival mode in my opinion, that and being exposed to Kraven's "hunting ground".

@@bubbajoe117 This still doesn't explain why the Symbiote attempted to bond with Peter immediately despite having Harry as it's current host if it's goal is only "complete synchonization". I don't think you can classify the Symbiote as "benevolent" at all due to those actions, though I can agree that it isn't necessarily (actively) malevolent. At least until it reconnects back with the hivemind. Like, turning MJ into Scream and then making her fight Pete was 100% just the Symbiote being petty towards Peter.

Same man I liked miles in this game but peters story was a million times more interesting

I think his time will come because he is a Young Spiderman. I really liked that he was just an addition in this Game because its Peters story he should be the side Kick

Ofc. At the end of the day a "Spider Man" story is going to be Peter's story unless specifically stated (eg the Miles Morales game), because he is THE spiderman. Its like the Avengers films for example, despite all of them being there, it was very centred on Iron Man, because he is THE avenger, or Justice League with Superman.

I'm not gonna lie, I don't care for miles. I'm a Spider-Man fan, and to me that means PETER PARKER. Calling Miles Morales 'Spider-Man' is like calling Dick Grayson 'Batman' just because he puts on the costume a few times in the comics, yet no one does that for batman, so why does Peter always have to share the limelight in modern Spider-Man media? After all the constant shit Peter is been through, now he cant even be the sole Spider-Man? To me, Miles is a giant distraction from the main event, and it shows in the writing of this game, which is clearly focused ENTIRELY on Peter. Even Miles's game felt more like a DLC than a proper Spider-Man game. Don't get me wrong, Miles is a good character, but to me he will never be Spider-Man, no matter how hard Sony and Insomniac push him to be accepted.

@@caligulamaximus6186 this is my thoughts exactly 💯

At least he has anti venom

Wait who tf in their right mind think Peter is weak in this game? No way people actually think that. This is the strongest I’ve ever seen Peter in a long ass time.

Who said insomniac Peter was weak? This mf is literally the strongest version of Peter without God powers right behind 616 Peter

@@Nobleman23 ive seen some comments saying they "nerfed" peter in this game

Who is saying is saying Insomniac Peter is weak? He’s one the strongest Spider-men out there.

⁠people say Peter’s nerfed mainly because he doesn’t do everything by himself since Miles is around. So instead of going “Oh Miles is equal to Peter now” they go “Peter got nerfed to make Miles look better”

Yeah, me too

Sinister six ain't shit compared to Kraven. Peter taking the brunt of a few walls doesn't mean he'll survive a direct stab wound by Kraven who has been implied to be abnormal in strength.

@@lordraiden7397especially near the abdomen/heart area

Kraven is a highly skilled hunter. The best. I think he would know how to stab someone. Also the knife was likely covered in scorpions venom.

@@youngentertainment8482 true

29:01 this one.

They are the only npcs that look up lol

Black makes stuff looks thinner. White does the opposite.

Wrong

That's debatable.

@@elpeluca7780 you spelled right wrong

As much as we all love Bully Maguire for the memes, it was a huge failing of the movie that we spent so much time laughing at Peter's dark side. This game, like so many versions before it, has us uncomfortable and scared for Peter. He's horrible to his friends and utterly selfish, which I much prefer over...a jazz douche

Keep dreaming

“Damn Kraven i didn’t know you were freaky like that”

Facts. Wasted and missed opportunity for a Shocker rematch. Instead they kill him off screen.

Damn you're right no one realized that 😱😱😱

@@beegest_yoshi I KNOW RIGHT 😱😱😱.

Crazy take 🤯 never thought of that

@@GoStahhs tell me about it.

@@stephonephoenix Spider-Man can be frightening if he wants to. Even without the black suit.

No he doesn't. Those are the claws tied to Kraven's wrist.

@@FunnyRedemption ohh

That’s what I thought at first too lol thought that the symbiote was growing them

His wish is to die. That’s why he said harder

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Bro horny frfr

@@angeltrujillo9835nah he just like it harder….

​@angeltrujillo9835 to die an honorable death* Otherwise he'd just commit suicide. Which is a major plot point in Kravens Last Hunt. He can't beat Spider-Man, he can't be a better Spider-Man than Spider-Man, and he can't get Spider-Man to kill him, so he puts a bullet through his brain.

It’s a sense, not an automatic response. It’s not going to make him untouchable. Tbh, it’s kinda dumb how OP it can be sometimes.

@@aguywithgames3135 problem is spider can dodge bullets with spidey sense but not mele attacks lol

Sense being the key word, he still has to dodge it isn't akin to Ultra Instinct from Dragon Ball. If someone or thing rivals his own speed (Kraven or Venom for example) then it is much harder for him to avoid. Sneak attacks and being hit when he isn't expecting it is the best way to actually hit him. His own level of focus also does effect his Spider-Sense as well like if he is distracted or to emotional which is why sometimes it doesn't even work with the symbiote on him as he is just so angry and not focusing on anything. While at times it is seen as a get out of jail free card and is his biggest strength, it isn't foolproof and the Insomiac Spidey's Spider Sense is actually unique among Spider-Men as he is as far as I know the only one whose Spider-Sense works on Venom. The comics this is not the case as the Spider-Sense doesn't recognize the symbiote (and by proxy it's children and grandchildren) as threats and sees them as Peter himself. It seems actually rather fair overall honestly compared to how it is usually portrayed

@@sallubegg6225 That… makes sense? Fighting up close and personal is never a good time, even for Spidey.

⁠@@sallubegg6225bro…. Do you read the comics or watch the movies?? Hell the animated cartoons?? Despite him having spidey sense, he can still be hit. skilled fighters managed to blows on spider man. he’s not always untouchable bro. Spider-Man been shot before. Just saying.