Joan of Arc: The (Staggering) Siege of Orléans 1428 / 29 | Hundred Years' War

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In 1428 an English army commanded by the kingdom’s most formidable general, the Earl of Salisbury, arrived at the French town of Orléans. This marked a turning point in the Hundred Years’ War between the Kingdoms of France and England. In 1428 England had the upper hand, and the attack on the strategically important city of Orléans was meant to devastate French resistance. But France had an ace up its sleeves: a warrior maiden, instructed by divine visions, was to unite the kingdom's people and give them fresh hope. Orléans was the siege that made the famous Joan of Arc a leader, a national hero, and ultimately a legend. This is how modern historiography tells the story of the staggering siege of Orléans.
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Bibliography
Barker, J., Conquest. The English Kingdom of France 1417-1450, Harvard 2012.
DeVries, K., Joan of Arc. A Military Leader, Thrupp/Shrout/Gloucestershire 1999.
Pernoud, R., ed., The Retrial of Joan of Arc: The Evidence at the Trial for Her Rehabilitation, trans. J.M. Cohen, London, 1955.
Pernoud, R./Clin, M.-V., Joan of Arc. Her Story, New York 1998.
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Journal du siege d'Orleans, in: Quicherat, Jules, Histoire du siege d'Orleans et des honneurs rendus a la Pucelle, Paris, 1854. Quicherat, Jules, Histoire du siege d'Orleans et des honneurs rendus a la Pucelle, Paris, 1854, vol. IV, p 155.
Taylor, L. J., The Virgin Warrior. Life and Death of Joan of Arc, Yale 2009.

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@SandRhomanHistory
@SandRhomanHistory 11 місяців тому
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@azopeopaz3059
@azopeopaz3059 11 місяців тому
any hope to say a video about the batle of patay? i think english video maker want to forget this batle since you not english you may be interest ?
@brokenbridge6316
@brokenbridge6316 11 місяців тому
Nicely done video
@roballister5269
@roballister5269 11 місяців тому
glad to see ur doing those intros with the clouds and music as the book opens, love those intros!
@valentin.d681
@valentin.d681 11 місяців тому
I discovered this channel a week ago and the quality of the videos is really astonishing ! However I have an advise, the English tend to anglicize the names of foreign battles. So no need to say Agincourt with a French accent because in French it is not said like that.
@arnijulian6241
@arnijulian6241 11 місяців тому
5,300 English& Burgundians which many of the 1500 left leaving 3800 though possibly less at 3200 vs over 6000 to 7000 French & Scottish soldiers with at least 3,000 armed angry peasants. less then 5000 vs over 9000. It is embarrassing that France in the defence of siege had to wait out the English for over 6 months till a women claiming visions from god came to save them. The English lost Thomas Montague the only real command a week or 2 into the siege yet the French still could deal with a smaller for4ce besieging them?:) My that is ridiculous! It is generally recommended to have at least double if not triple the force in an assault to the defence. How did France allow a force 2/3rds it's size if not 1/2 to even continue besieging it in the 1st place? The French make mythos out the ludicrous things!
@petrpinc7695
@petrpinc7695 11 місяців тому
"The blood on La Hire's sword is almost dry" - La Hire
@ttx3
@ttx3 11 місяців тому
❤❤❤ AoE 2
@d26k164
@d26k164 11 місяців тому
I can't imagine how many tens of thousands of kids had their history passion started by that game. Mine sure was
@ttx3
@ttx3 11 місяців тому
@@d26k164 there were good old times. AoE did more to history education than the school itself. There were also epic powerful lines like this one of legendary La Hire ❤️
@nobodysanything2330
@nobodysanything2330 11 місяців тому
I shall not doubt her again - Guy Josselon
@civ-fanboy2137
@civ-fanboy2137 11 місяців тому
Them Brits can't make a castle stronger than La Hire.
@MrVlad12340
@MrVlad12340 11 місяців тому
People often underestimate the sheer power of belief and faith, the morale. Joan may have not being an experienced officer but she was a symbol of faith and her reputation as a holy woman made french soldiers fight with zealous determination, and that kind of belief that makes men fight to the death, discarding fear and doubt - it can easily crush less motivated enemy. Its psychological warfare in itself, demoralising an enemy force while your own troops are at their highest. If often works wonders, even when situation is bleak.
@hedgehog3180
@hedgehog3180 11 місяців тому
Well a lot of pre-modern warfare was decided simply by who stayed on the battlefield the longest so morale had a huge importance, so convincing your soldiers that they have divine favor can be a key advantage. This also occasionally meant putting soldiers into positions where they couldn't retreat, like in the first crusade where the crusaders were so far from home that retreat simply wasn't possible.
@AntipaladinPedigri
@AntipaladinPedigri 7 місяців тому
*Peasant girl writes fanfiction of France's greatness* *frustrated with the lack of readers, does her damnest to make the fantasy real and canon*
@DinnerForkTongue
@DinnerForkTongue 7 місяців тому
"Fine. I'll do it myself" moment.
@xenotypos
@xenotypos 11 місяців тому
Hi from Orleans. Seeing this map now, I'm amazed at how small the city was back then, probably around 1/25th of the current surface, not counting the urban area (3 times bigger). Even the historical center is vastly bigger. It's easy to recognize "what is what" with the islands, and that bridge toward the south is still there, except now it just connects to southern part of the city. I know it shouldn't be a surprise, but still.
@nice_toes_xx
@nice_toes_xx 11 місяців тому
I always forget how small most (Non Capital) cities were until the industrial revolution. It makes a lot more sense when you think about how they were able to withstand sieges without burning through supplies
@codyj9983
@codyj9983 9 місяців тому
I Google Earthed Orleans to see what youre talking about. Pretty cool. I could be wrong but it kinda looks like you can still see the borders of the old city. Its all trees now where the walls may have been. Am I looking at this correctly?
@xenotypos
@xenotypos 8 місяців тому
@@codyj9983 Actually, the trees follow a road (it's a succession of parks between the two sides of the road, it's pretty big) that encircle the historical center. But even that historical center as I said, is bigger than the medieval town you see in that video. It's more like "the historical center of the 19th century". It just shows how small the medieval town was, as were most medieval towns in Europe anyway. So no, afaik it's not the limits of the medieval town. To put into perspective, Orléans today is slightly bigger than Paris was during the middle ages (I mean during the 100 years war), and Paris was the biggest city in Europe. That being said, relatively speaking other cities in France grew way more than Orléans, it's just a middle sized city nowadays.
@Paveway-chan
@Paveway-chan 11 місяців тому
Joan had a plan, and this gets really deep into the weeds of siege warfare, but the idea was… ”Get ’em!”
@deangajraj
@deangajraj 11 місяців тому
As a reminder that history is filled with remarkable individuals and events that continue to inspire and captivate us centuries later, the siege of Orléans and the story of Joan of Arc present a compelling narrative of courage, faith, and nation-building.
@Thraim.
@Thraim. 11 місяців тому
We get a staggering siege *and* a very mainstream topic at once? Truly, this is the video the algorithm has been waiting for.
@jacques3148
@jacques3148 11 місяців тому
We moderns can be as sarcastic as we want about Joan of Arc's visions, but no one can read her answers at the Rouen trial (we still have the full manuscripts) without being deeply impressed. I am a history student at la Sorbonne and that's what a renowned Joan of Arc specialist (who used to be sarcastic about her as well) told us, after reading it as well I agree with him.
@NerdRoomProductions
@NerdRoomProductions 11 місяців тому
Any highlights in paticular?
@megathicc6367
@megathicc6367 11 місяців тому
I think she was more crazy for being close with Gilles de Rais a serial killer of children. Although who knows if she knew or not.
@jamsheedsneed6257
@jamsheedsneed6257 11 місяців тому
God's real, St. Jeanne d'Arc was sent by God. People discount her visions out of hand because they conflict with their world view. The way that this view permeates through academia is terrifying. Especially liberal Biblical academia, Bart Ehrman is the most preeminent scholar in liberal Biblical Academia yet is an idiot. He is just a prolific writer, his debates with the likes of Dr. Brant Pitre are truly awe-inspiring in how humans will perform the craziest mental gymnastics if they don't agree with the reality of the situation. Academia is dead.
@megathicc6367
@megathicc6367 11 місяців тому
@@jamsheedsneed6257 god's real but she wasn't a prophet. To say so is to believe in a false idol and prophet.
@jacques3148
@jacques3148 11 місяців тому
@@NerdRoomProductions Well the main impressive thing is that her answers are really smart and learned, even if she was only an iliterate peasant girl. She also shows a remarkable strength of character, even if she's alone, miserable, and only a young girl. I strongly encourage you to read for yourself!
@TitouFromMars
@TitouFromMars 11 місяців тому
Joan of Arc statistics : tactics: 0 morale boost: +100
@SuperChuckRaney
@SuperChuckRaney 11 місяців тому
+800 Endurence
@KaiHung-wv3ul
@KaiHung-wv3ul 11 місяців тому
Piety: +600000000 Jokes aside, the English conducted themselves honorably in this siege, they managed to keep up a siege for months despite plenty of bad luck(the commander dying early), and being outnumbered almost two to one when conventional wisdom would have stated that besiegers have to outnumber the besieged at least three to one.
@Lapkonium
@Lapkonium 11 місяців тому
Wow the art style is even more beautiful than before
@stehfreejesseah7893
@stehfreejesseah7893 11 місяців тому
I liked the older style.
@arminhergl5388
@arminhergl5388 11 місяців тому
I agree, I like the new graphics
@MegaBouzigue
@MegaBouzigue 11 місяців тому
"Of the love or hate of God for the English I know nothing, but I know for sure that they will all be expelled from this land, save for those that will perish here" Sainte Jeanne d'Arc ⚜
@trorisk
@trorisk 11 місяців тому
I lived in Orleans for 20 years. On May 8 throughout the France is celebrated the end of WW2. But in Orleans for almost 600 years on May 8 it is Joan of Arc. Joan of Arc was slowly recognized by the Church (beatified in 1909 and canonized in 1920) and the France. But Orleans celebrated its saint since 1431 or 1432. There is a real particularity of Joan of Arc for France but even more for Orleans.
@Docklead
@Docklead 8 місяців тому
I imagine because they like being french and she’s the reason why they’re not speaking English
@WelcomeToDERPLAND
@WelcomeToDERPLAND 11 місяців тому
Absolutely a shame and crime against humanity what ended up happening to her.
@walideg5304
@walideg5304 11 місяців тому
Yep. She was betrayed.
@MW_Asura
@MW_Asura 11 місяців тому
@@walideg5304 She wasn't betrayed
@WelcomeToDERPLAND
@WelcomeToDERPLAND 11 місяців тому
@@MW_Asura I suppose that depends if you count that sham trail the English & their church representatives put her through counted as a betrayal or not. "Guilty of Heresy" for the crime of wearing men's clothing... disgustingly she was abused & molested (and most likely worse) during her imprisonment, until the ultimate crime of her captors was carried out with an execution by being burned at the stake...
@michaelhawkins7389
@michaelhawkins7389 11 місяців тому
@@MW_Asura she was
@RayB1656
@RayB1656 8 місяців тому
@@MW_Asura She was betrayed ! Remember the entrapment set-up at Compiègne ! Remember Guillaume de Flavy ?
@andreweden9405
@andreweden9405 11 місяців тому
The composer Guillaume Dufay (1397-1474) would've been entering the height of his musical career at this time. The composer Gilles Binchois (1400-1460) was not only a composer, but also a knight in the service of the Duke of Burgundy, and may well have been among the troops at this very siege! The music of both composers still survives, and much of it is absolutely stunningly beautiful!
@sapphyrus
@sapphyrus 11 місяців тому
It cannot be overstated how much odds were against Jeanne. A peasant girl was as disenfranchised as a person could be back then, nobody in power would even hand over more than a grocery stall to such a person, let alone an entire army with the task to lift a siege. She could first persuade the common folk, then nobility, then military commanders to work with her which is practically an unmatched feat. Even today in more progressive societies it would be a remarkable achievement. Then, on the side that after a string of catastrophes, battered and demoralized, she delivers her promise and practically turns the tide in way that sets the outcome of a decades long war. Let's set the divine intervention thoughts aside, you'd never bet for a peasant girl to achieve all this. Even gathering the help she needed was way beyond the means of any commoner back then.
@pyropulseIXXI
@pyropulseIXXI 11 місяців тому
It was easier to advance back then. A poor person can never lead forces in today's "progressive" age; it is literally impossible. They have to enter the system; everything is beaurocratic these days
@saffron5802
@saffron5802 11 місяців тому
@@pyropulseIXXI Not sure where you live, but in my country you can start with the military and train to become a corporal after finishing college. From there, it's basically all about how talented you are and meeting your competencies, and you will be able to advance and become a lieutenant after enough years of active service. Back then, most poor people couldn't even hope to become anything more then a sergeant even after years of active campaigning. You generally had to be of noble blood, it was less about merit. A lot of France's nobility was wiped out at the Battle of Agincourt, that they had a shortage in leadership. The commoners had lost all hope in what was left of the nobility, and in their desperation they chose to rally behind one of their own.
@sapphyrus
@sapphyrus 11 місяців тому
@@pyropulseIXXI Any kind of advancement for women was non-existent then. The only way they'd have any say regarding a military matter would be if they were the eldest daughter of a king with no sons and inherit the throne as a queen regnant. Even a queen consort could have no input. The equivalent of a peasant girl in 15th century in the social ladder today would be a homeless, blind, deaf, geriatric, migrant woman.
@lukaswilhelm9290
@lukaswilhelm9290 11 місяців тому
@@pyropulseIXXI its the other way around, back then mostly only nobility could lead army as norm for feudal society. Joan was an exception as she claim she was sent by God, even many nobility doubt her as they afraid she would kick start the whole meritocratic system again.
@civilengineer3349
@civilengineer3349 10 місяців тому
Uh peasants were common folk and they did handle grocery stalls which back then would be a food stall or crafts stall at a fair.
@MrLoobu
@MrLoobu 11 місяців тому
It's amazing how many top generals leading armies were killed by one errant cannon ball. I can think of 4 such instances off the top of my head.
@bomaniigloo
@bomaniigloo 2 місяці тому
Its still super crazy how a teenage girl could "identify weak spots" in the enemy line.
@user-it3gp4vm1z
@user-it3gp4vm1z Місяць тому
Its not that hard, see tired soldiers? See disorganized soldiers? See less equipped soldiers? Thats the weak spot
@thcdreams654
@thcdreams654 11 місяців тому
Stood up from my chair and I found myself stunned as I stumbled backwards. That is the staggering quality of your work. Thanks man.
@kipferlkipferl
@kipferlkipferl 11 місяців тому
The blood on La Hire's sword is almost dry!
@user-ij5yz9xt8w
@user-ij5yz9xt8w 11 місяців тому
Could you make a video about the horrors and aftermath of battles? Such as the experiences of French surgeon Ambroise Pare who served four French kings and was a leading pioneer in surgical techniques and battlefield medicine.
@scottanno8861
@scottanno8861 10 місяців тому
I love the silent film Joan of Arc. Really well done from the 1920s
@JosephZepeda
@JosephZepeda 11 місяців тому
Nearly perfect post timing seeing as today is the Feast of St Joan of Arc
@GarfieldRex
@GarfieldRex 11 місяців тому
Loved Joan's image drawing here, beautiful art⚜️
@thomaslacornette1282
@thomaslacornette1282 11 місяців тому
There's good things in your video, the Burgundians leaving the siege is a big turning point that is not often speak of, i read a reason they leave also was cause Burgundians needed troops to occupy the recently acquiered county of Namur. English arrogance might have play a role and not all Burgundian lords were liking the English that much, few years later Burgundians will reconciliate with French and turn back against English. Robert de Baudricourt was not a fat ass lord but in fact quite a badass: he fought almost lonely on the march of France surrounded by hostile forces and lands at Vaucouleurs for ten years the Burgundians from Vergy House. Good point also to speak how Jeanne created a popular support even more people of Orleans enlisted in the milicia when she arrives, this adding of troops might have been a game changer.
@Yellow-kp9gs
@Yellow-kp9gs 11 місяців тому
Yeah the English should have worked harder to make a better alliance with the Burgundians. Would have made their rule more legitimate and stopped popular support for the french resurgence after Salisbury’s deaths.
@walideg5304
@walideg5304 11 місяців тому
The Burgundian nobles were disgusted by the English behaviour during the Battles of Azincourt where noble prisoners were massacred against all the rules of the Chevalerie. They never liked them.
@thomaslacornette1282
@thomaslacornette1282 11 місяців тому
@@walideg5304 Yes!!! Jean de Villiers de L'Isle-Adam even talked very bad to John of Lancaster in an encounter at Paris. He was at the siege of Harfleur and at the battle of Azincourt (on the french side indeed), one exemple among many others.
@TheWildManEnkidu
@TheWildManEnkidu 11 місяців тому
Really enjoyed the graphics and artwork on this one. This channel just keeps getting better and better.
@thewitherchannel1053
@thewitherchannel1053 10 місяців тому
great video, you've come a long way since I started following. Your content and research have always been spot-on and informative
@Fryepod3628
@Fryepod3628 11 місяців тому
My first watch of this channel, knowing a decent amount about this topic in general but never too in depth. This is wildly good. Liked. Subbed. Comment. Thank you!
@mnk9073
@mnk9073 11 місяців тому
Challenge: Don't do a frontal charge against the English French knights and Scottish Infantry: *IMPOSSIBLE!
@GerardMenvussa
@GerardMenvussa 11 місяців тому
Ok guys, here's the strategy for today : "YOLO!"
@Casmaniac
@Casmaniac 11 місяців тому
Learning about military history in the middle ages often reads as a comedy of errors doesn't it lol
@Yellow-kp9gs
@Yellow-kp9gs 11 місяців тому
To be fair French knights and their Calvary charges were easily the best in the Hundred Years’ War (although there were quite a few stand out English successes) and even before this. I agree they were very arrogant and this caused defeats (nicopolis for example) but they weren’t idiots either.
@xenotypos
@xenotypos 11 місяців тому
@@Casmaniac It often comes from our misunderstanding of the actual situation at the time though. And it's the case most times we deem a past event as "stupid" tbh.
@xenotypos
@xenotypos 11 місяців тому
It worked very well just a few weeks after the siege of Orléans: the battle of Patay (in which the longbowmen were massacred by largely inferior numbers) is an example of how effective a quick/reckless charge from the cavalry, before the longbowmen could entrench themselves, was very effective. Timing was important.
@adheetsequeira9c415
@adheetsequeira9c415 11 місяців тому
I comment rarely but ...... well I just wanted to say THANK YOU for your excellent productions. I owe all my knowledge of this subject to you and other UKposts channels. For a student like me who cannot afford to buy many books it is really a blessing to see ( and learn) unbiased true history. Please don't stop. Will become a patron whenever I can. Thank you. God bless you.
@bethwilliams4903
@bethwilliams4903 10 місяців тому
Thank you for a host who can actually pronounce the French names properly! Too often narrators on historical documentaries, no matter how well done or researched, are mangled by individuals who cannot speak even a passing French, it mars their entire effort. More could have been said of Jeanne La Pucelle’s extraordinary companions, Dunois, La Hire, Xaintrailles, et al and certainly more about her trial, maybe in another podcast!
@chourtout
@chourtout 9 місяців тому
Hmm not really actually
@bethwilliams4903
@bethwilliams4903 9 місяців тому
I wouldn’t recommend the (almost) 5 volume Jonathan Sumption series on the Hundred Years War for you but there are a couple specific books that highlight aspects of the French Wars leading to the generation that produced Jeanne and her companions - such as Kenneth Fowler’s extraordinary vol.1 on the Mercenaries (he sadly never completed vol.2 which would have continued the discussion of the free companies, routiers, beyond 1370) who ravaged France, includes all comers, English, French, German, Italian, etc, and then bookend it with Bronislaw Geremek’s Margin’s of Society in Late Medieval Paris, which is about the mind numbing cost of those hideous wars with Edward III and the Lancastrian Henry V and his brothers - Jeanne did not emerge unexpectedly from a cloud, even her infamous oath, about the ‘goddams’ was not hers but a generations old inherited word among the French for whom if nothing else they heard that from Englishmen! It is also worth knowing more about her companions because many, like the virtuous d’Alencon was, over time, to prove the better man than the Bastard of Orleans, Dunois, (later ‘legitimized’) and who would turn on d’Alencon for his own entirely opportunistic and political reasons. Jeanne, in retrospect, seems closest to Xaintrailles and La Hire, in their desire not to mix messages. Purity of purpose, in any age, is hard to achieve.
@monkmichael-munkmiikael-hy7842
@monkmichael-munkmiikael-hy7842 26 днів тому
Excellent video. It was especially helpful that you put in all the maps and showed the movements of the battle. Thank you!
@ryneboy3845
@ryneboy3845 11 місяців тому
I’d been missing the siege coverage. Great work
@leagueoflags
@leagueoflags 11 місяців тому
Excellent video, excellent storytelling. Excellent as always.
@themagickalmagickman
@themagickalmagickman 11 місяців тому
He lived 8 days without much of his jaw and lower face? 7:18. Poor guy...
@farcydebop7982
@farcydebop7982 11 місяців тому
In the Middle Ages, it would be like having a big cut. No big deal.
@j.k.6865
@j.k.6865 11 місяців тому
Tis but a scratch
@zacharydurocher4085
@zacharydurocher4085 11 місяців тому
No morphine too
@Tyrrituil
@Tyrrituil 11 місяців тому
One of the UKpostsrs I get excited to watch, every time!
@harleydavidson1014
@harleydavidson1014 10 місяців тому
I love your channel. Keep the videos coming.
@kolerick
@kolerick 8 місяців тому
France in civil war, financial ruin and generally on the back foot Jeanne d'Arc and Napoleon: "we like those odds..."
@lc1138
@lc1138 10 місяців тому
Thank you for this video ! Very instructive and with enough context so I understand better the picture of this first 'act' in the Jeanne d'Arc saga. Although, I must point out I heard she was not exactly a simple peasant girl. Like, her father was a rich farmer or something. I heard this on a french radio broadcast, from a specialist historian, but I'm unable to remember when or who. I encourage you to dig the topic if you wish so ! It's good to clarify myths :)
@MaHuD_
@MaHuD_ 11 місяців тому
Thank you for the video!
@korosuke1788
@korosuke1788 11 місяців тому
Imagine doing everything you could for your country and be awarded the title "the bastard". Tough times.
@BryanLikesCandy
@BryanLikesCandy 11 місяців тому
Bastard ain't that bad. Just ask Bill from Normandy.
@frankkobold
@frankkobold 11 місяців тому
I think, in the past "bastard" had a different meaning. Less an insult, if then more a "buh, no child of a Christian marriage!" for the common people, and for the nobility the focus would be on "no right to inherit, but eh, extremely common"
@yulusleonard985
@yulusleonard985 11 місяців тому
Lol in middle ages it means you need to visit the pope to be upgraded into proper family member.
@Ayeshteni
@Ayeshteni 11 місяців тому
Same as it is today, yer maw got pounded over the bins behind the pub before she was married. Or with the Pool boy after she was married, either or.
@TheSergentChaotix
@TheSergentChaotix 11 місяців тому
Can't believe the comment section, between british who can't bear a video about a defeat, people who can't bear a video about a fighting woman (although not exactly fighting, she did go to the frontline and rode agead of the army to inspure her troops) and people who can't understand the impact of "moral strenght", this must be discouraging for the creator !
@Dayvit78
@Dayvit78 11 місяців тому
I did not expect it either! Usually Sandrhoman's comment section is just fun.
@Thouhand.
@Thouhand. 11 місяців тому
Why would he be upset? The more people that show up to argue and put views on his video, the more money he gets.
@Ayeshteni
@Ayeshteni 11 місяців тому
Please don't lump us with the English. The Scots fought on the side of the French.
@sintenal4078
@sintenal4078 11 місяців тому
“Wow, that looks really interesting!” - Me, talking to myself upon seeing the notification for this video. Just love your content, thank you for such devotion and effort.
@plasticbazooka
@plasticbazooka 11 місяців тому
"Charge closer, I wanna hit them with my standard!" -Joan, probably.
@victorkrawchuk9141
@victorkrawchuk9141 11 місяців тому
After the failure at Orleans, the English, after being joined by Fastolf's force, retreated north towards Paris. They were chased by the French and a pitched battle ensued near the village of Patay. The English were defeated, lost 2,000 killed out of 5,000 men, and Fastolf was the only senior commander who was not killed or captured by the French. Fastolf was a skilled and often ruthless commander who, very unusually for the day, had risen to his high rank from a very lowly position. Having already attracted a great deal of jealousy from his much more privileged peers, he was relentlessly ridiculed after Patay for being decisively defeated in battle by a woman (Joan). His reputation never recovered, and his disgraced character lives on to this day as the buffoon Falstaff, made immortal by Shakespeare's play and Verdi's opera.
@MarquisVincentBissetdeGramont
@MarquisVincentBissetdeGramont 11 місяців тому
Thank you for this comprehensive and interesting comment. I might add that Fastolf was apparently cleared of any wrongdoing at the Battle of Patay by an enquiry conducted by the Order of the Garter, but his reputation was forever tarnished. Good day to you!
@benjaminloyd6056
@benjaminloyd6056 10 місяців тому
The Battle of Patay showed that the French cavalry charge could be devastating vs unprepared positions. The English Longbow corps would never recover fully.
@sarahsidney1988
@sarahsidney1988 11 місяців тому
Great topic and nice animations
@Jesse_Dawg
@Jesse_Dawg 11 місяців тому
Wonderful video. Please more!
@manonanisland88
@manonanisland88 11 місяців тому
Another amazing video. Great work!
@brokenbridge6316
@brokenbridge6316 11 місяців тому
It's remarkable. The people of Orleans in their most desperate moment were more willing to surrender to the Burgundians rather than the English. But it does show how they felt about the English.
@BryanLikesCandy
@BryanLikesCandy 11 місяців тому
Continent before Island pretenders!
@xenotypos
@xenotypos 11 місяців тому
Not really, it's just that the Burgundians were French too, the duke was even closely related to the royal family actually. They also weren't seen as illegimate, they were one of two parties (with the Armagnacs) that fought for legitimity and power in France, for a long time, before that mess happened. The killing of John, the former duke of Burgundy, by the Armagnac prince, actually shocked a lot of French.
@thecolonelpridereview
@thecolonelpridereview 11 місяців тому
Nice video, much love from England for our most treasured and noble rivals!
@auperion
@auperion 11 місяців тому
Good stuff as always!
@oriffel
@oriffel 11 місяців тому
amazing work guys
@cyfertea8707
@cyfertea8707 11 місяців тому
(reposted) like the other people stated, Joan was given a quick course in warfare. Also she has advisors who follows her everywhere to tell her everything she needs to know. I never actually saw Joan as a good commander, however I saw her as an excellent leader. She's faithful but knows how to handle the people around, knows how to give them hope and courage. I think being a peasant is what helped Joan connect to her soldiers more than any nobles can. Joan knows how hard it is to be a peasant, she understood their daily struggles and can relate to them, so she knew how to talk to them, how to encourage them, she's connected to them, she can relate and sympathize with them because she knew how they live and the struggle of being a peasant. She's unlike some kings who became distant to their own troops because they simply don't know how a peasant lives nor do they even care, but Joan cares. What is cool about Joan is being seen as holy never made her distant, she never saw herself above and beyond her own men, she fought along side them even if she has no idea how to fight, even if it means just raising a banner or trying to climb the walls during a siege, she'll do anything she can to help. This inspired everyone around her because she's being a great example to look up to and follow, she's leading by example even if it means it'll kill her (she almost died because she was climbing a wall during a siege even tho it's against her advisors' advice). She's not a good soldier like other shows and movies shows, nor is she a brilliant commander or strategist, but I think she shines in terms of leadership and example. I think it is why people are willing to follow her instead of the church, she actually stands by her own words even if it'll kill her unlike some priests and the church during her time. If she promises you something, you can be damn sure she'll keep her word even if it means her own death.
@LordSesshaku
@LordSesshaku 11 місяців тому
I actually do think she was a good commander, she had the instincs of what would be later be known as "napoleonic warfare". She didn't wait. She was fast. Determinated. March quickly, march separately, fight concentrated, take them by surprise, town by town, never presenting "a conventional battle" unless she could win it. What she did in Orleans was not that different from Napoleon earning his soldiers loyalty by leading the suicidal charge at the battle of Arcole. She was clearly not military trained, but she had the instincts of what could be considered proto-modern warfare.
@user-cg2tw8pw7j
@user-cg2tw8pw7j 11 місяців тому
​@@LordSesshaku no
@RayB1656
@RayB1656 9 місяців тому
@@LordSesshaku ... .... '' she was cleary not military trained ...'' She was ! Who was Jehanne la Pucelle best friend ?? Who wrote the best book about Medieval Warfare and weapons during that era ?? It was René d'Anjou, the son of Yolande d'Anjou. What a coincidence, another Anjouj ! Jehanne la Pucelle was ''running a lance'' at the Court of the Duke of Lorraine, in 1428 ; where she learned ''Jousting '' ? Jehanne had 12 horses at the Court of Charles VII, many Medieval War horses which young aristocratic men took on average, 5 to 7 years to train on a Medieval War horses ... using mostly your legs to control the horse during an ugly Medieval war battlefield. Jehanne la Pucelle arrested Franquet d'Arras , infamous pirate and all his men from the Loire Valley . Franquet d'Arras literally lost his head , when she released him to the Civil authority.
@LordSesshaku
@LordSesshaku 9 місяців тому
@@user-cg2tw8pw7j "yes" That was the impression I got after reading books about the whole military campaign Joan did.
@user-cg2tw8pw7j
@user-cg2tw8pw7j 9 місяців тому
@@LordSesshaku My brother, she did not lead the armies, but was just a mascot for the French armies
@drillsargentadog
@drillsargentadog 9 місяців тому
St. Jean d'Arc, pray for us!
@alexandertaylor1225
@alexandertaylor1225 11 місяців тому
Wonderful video thank you.
@dubbyx8490
@dubbyx8490 10 місяців тому
If you played through the Siege of Orleans in AOE II, you're a freakin' legend.
@luis.m.yrisson
@luis.m.yrisson 11 місяців тому
And 600 years later the Anglos are still seething...
@kmitchell9891
@kmitchell9891 11 місяців тому
Laughs in waterloo
@qsds9586
@qsds9586 11 місяців тому
@@kmitchell9891 Thanks to the prussian
@kmitchell9891
@kmitchell9891 11 місяців тому
@@qsds9586 laughs harder
@vinz4066
@vinz4066 10 місяців тому
​@@kmitchell9891 Proving His Point I see
@kmitchell9891
@kmitchell9891 10 місяців тому
@@vinz4066 thanks for speaking english
@TheOnyxFoxReturns
@TheOnyxFoxReturns 4 місяці тому
This makes me hope there's a review on the siege of Derry. It's the only remaining walled city in Ireland and saw many sieges, while also being able to repel them.
@eliascaals1826
@eliascaals1826 11 місяців тому
really liked this video!
@ExperiencePlayers
@ExperiencePlayers 11 місяців тому
Great video!
@maxthepaladin2147
@maxthepaladin2147 11 місяців тому
Damn, Joan really was driven
@BadNeighbor93
@BadNeighbor93 11 місяців тому
"Ahhh La Hire´s SWOrd is almost dryy" - La Hire 1420´s
@yourfellowhumanbeing2323
@yourfellowhumanbeing2323 11 місяців тому
fellow aoe fan
@54032Zepol
@54032Zepol 11 місяців тому
Very cool video 😎 keep up the great content!
@x3kj705
@x3kj705 11 місяців тому
another great video, thank you
@jamesdemellow1016
@jamesdemellow1016 10 місяців тому
A huge element of why Joan was abandoned by Charles VII is that she failed in her campaign against Paris. Her propaganda value decreased significantly after the failed assault on Paris, this sidelining her role afterwards and being eventually captured by the Burgundians. A holy leader whose visions of military victories no longer come true is of no significant use. But a martyr still has propaganda use. I read smthn by Burne which even mentioned that the French attempted to replicate the propaganda success of Joan by claiming another peasant was also guided by divine visions from god after joans death.
@RayB1656
@RayB1656 9 місяців тому
Jehanne la Pucelle was ''abandoned'' by Charles VII, because his advisors , Regnault de Chartres and George de la Trémoille advised Charles to seek a truce with the Burgundian-English Alliance, avoiding then a direct engagement with the English troops. Losing the army, meant for Charles VII a certain escape towards Scotland or Spain. It was probably wiser to wait and fight the English troops another day ! Jehanne la Pucelle wanted to take Paris by force ! She was left with only a few hundred men, as Charles departed for the Loire Valley with most of the army. And, she was seriously wounded at the walls of Paris and failed her 3rd mission! ( she had ''4 missions'' ). She ''disappeared'' for a many weeks and it is said, she was sent to the ''Maison de Braine'' ! All the first authors from the late15th and the16th century mentioned that this was only a political story, a nasty struggle between two royal families ! Yolande d'Anjou (including the Armagnacs) , was the mastermind behind all these events.
@mikedangerdoes
@mikedangerdoes 11 місяців тому
What a stroke of fortune. I had recently just been thinking about Joan of Arc and was meaning to look her up.
@hititmanify
@hititmanify 11 місяців тому
same!
@keanuortiz3766
@keanuortiz3766 11 місяців тому
Ah I remember this AoE2 mission
@user-dt7py6oo1t
@user-dt7py6oo1t 11 місяців тому
I'm a big fan thank you
@agalie7139
@agalie7139 10 місяців тому
Before Joan the 100 years war was considered to be a dynastic struggle but she ( or the propaganda) stated that it was a nation battle and with the help of the faith and superstitions made the french population to acknowledge Charles as king of France and France as their country given by God.
@antoinemozart243
@antoinemozart243 9 місяців тому
The English are not better. Their motto : Dieu et mon droit.
@Malik_Sylvus
@Malik_Sylvus 8 місяців тому
Despite what the books said, this wasn't a war between France and England, this was a war between French kings of England, and their cousins kings of France about a disputed land in France. It was a war between the royal houses of Valois, Anjou and Normandie.
@cantbanme8971
@cantbanme8971 8 місяців тому
Does this even need to be stated? It's true of pretty much any war in the middle ages, the concept of nation states as we understand them today was very different.
@mykomatos5445
@mykomatos5445 6 місяців тому
Though the distinction existed to the common folk and Jeanne was a hero to them first
@Wasserkaktus
@Wasserkaktus 5 місяців тому
No, by this point Henry V and all future English monarchs spoke English as their first language and were far more culturally English than French/Norman. Henry V spoke French (most of the English upper class was expected to know French), but if you knew the history of Henry V and his own tenuous grasp on the English throne, it's obvious that Henry firmly saw himself as an English king trying to seize the Crown of France.
@Wasserkaktus
@Wasserkaktus 5 місяців тому
​@@cantbanme8971Cultural distinctions of both monarchs, nobles and commoners were well known by this point. You are correct that Nationalism didn't really exist until the 19th Century, and states were far more organized then compared to the Middle Ages, but people were still very cognizant of cultural differences between themselves and outsiders.
@Malik_Sylvus
@Malik_Sylvus 5 місяців тому
@@Wasserkaktus you are reading history with modern nationalist eyes, Henry V was king of England, and even if 300 years after the conquest, the normand/engevin kings and lords of England became naturally english speakers, they didn't forget from where they came, in their feodal beliefs and thoughts They remained closely linked to their strongholds in France. They were always linked to their feudal lands of the Normand/Angevin house in France. So the 100 hundred year war wasn't a war between 2 nations (english vs french), it was a feudal war about enhiritance of lands and crown between 2 kings who were cousins. King Henry claimed to be the heir of the Valois house who ruled France, that's all. This war shaped the national spirit that replaced feudal spirit.
@wiktorberski9272
@wiktorberski9272 11 місяців тому
Good job
@carteroleksyk1599
@carteroleksyk1599 19 днів тому
Great video, please make more saint videos
@removedquasar650
@removedquasar650 11 місяців тому
Great video. Make a secod part please! Patay, Paris and Compiègne!
@FrankoMakurian
@FrankoMakurian 11 місяців тому
"Of course God love the Englishmen too but he prefers when they stay in England"
@Jose-gc8rl
@Jose-gc8rl 11 місяців тому
Then God doesn't love them
@kmitchell9891
@kmitchell9891 11 місяців тому
Laughs in agincourt
@breakerdawn8429
@breakerdawn8429 11 місяців тому
God change side when the English King died cause he was very religious and a pious man.
@Homme-chauve-souris
@Homme-chauve-souris 11 місяців тому
@@kmitchell9891 Laughs in Patay
@kmitchell9891
@kmitchell9891 11 місяців тому
@@Homme-chauve-souris laughs in waterloo
@rafaelrmaier
@rafaelrmaier 11 місяців тому
@11:22 I would argue, albeit without evidence, that the defenders plan actually bore some fruit. It definitely looks like'the bastard of Orleans' played the English and Burgundian against each other by offering (half) the city to the burgundians
@frankkobold
@frankkobold 11 місяців тому
Which would make him a damn good diplomat
@KaylDunnyan
@KaylDunnyan 11 місяців тому
“La Hire wishes to kill sumsing!”
@Sir_Lagg_A_Lot
@Sir_Lagg_A_Lot 11 місяців тому
I love Age of empires 2.
@krzemo644
@krzemo644 11 місяців тому
"Ze blood on La Hire sword iz almozt dry"
@peterpatota5026
@peterpatota5026 11 місяців тому
i scrolled down until i found an aoe2 la hire comment
@petrapetrakoliou8979
@petrapetrakoliou8979 11 місяців тому
I think you are forgetting that John of Burgundy had Charles d'Orleans assassinated in Paris, so his own assassination was only a revenge from the followers of Charles. This is a very sensitive question in the period, but facts are that the first to strike in this feud with a really gruesome rutheless murder was the duke of Burgundy...
@petrapetrakoliou8979
@petrapetrakoliou8979 11 місяців тому
I meant Louis of Orleans, not Charles... (he was the king Charles VI's own brother, John of Burgundy, his assassin was his cousin).
@petrapetrakoliou8979
@petrapetrakoliou8979 11 місяців тому
I mean, you are presenting John of Burgungy as the poor guy walking into a trap, while everybody knew and he himself was proud of the murder of Louis d'Orleans.
@WhatIsSanity
@WhatIsSanity 11 місяців тому
@@petrapetrakoliou8979 Good to know.
@socratrash
@socratrash 11 місяців тому
Fantastic!
@Hendur
@Hendur 8 місяців тому
Bro what is going on with these comments, some truly crazy people watch these vids :x Well anyways, I always thought Jean D'arc was a truly fascinating charakter of history, thank you for the well made video
@rolandhanson7678
@rolandhanson7678 11 місяців тому
One of the most inspiring people in history
@user-cg2tw8pw7j
@user-cg2tw8pw7j 11 місяців тому
no
@jeromebarry1741
@jeromebarry1741 11 місяців тому
Mark Twain's "Joan of Arc" is an excellent read. I once had an American History teacher in college assign us to do a book report on any Mark Twain book. She didn't even know about that one.
@Eric-ng2ed
@Eric-ng2ed 11 місяців тому
does anyone know where the picture or painting at 8:08 is from?
@jamiegreen4758
@jamiegreen4758 8 місяців тому
Love this channel 👌. Ty another good video
@Miamcoline
@Miamcoline 11 місяців тому
Great stuff as always!
@GarfieldRex
@GarfieldRex 11 місяців тому
A beautiful chance to recommend the movie of 1999: The Messenger: The story of Joan of Arc. Starrting Milla Jovovich 👌👌👌 best medieval warfare movie for me, and best Joan of Arc movie as well
@ttx3
@ttx3 11 місяців тому
yes, Milla was perfect for the role❤
@tomassup8309
@tomassup8309 11 місяців тому
"Jeanne d'Arc, priez pour nous!"
@MauricedelTaco
@MauricedelTaco 11 місяців тому
fascinating
@sdtamarinera
@sdtamarinera 11 місяців тому
Alas a channel with courage to make videos about Joan of Arc victories
@schweinehund3497
@schweinehund3497 11 місяців тому
Ich liebe deinen Kanal! Eine weitere sehr interessante Belagerung ist die von Syracusae auf Sizilien während dem Pelepponesischen Krieg. Nur ein kleiner Tipp.
@TheSoonToBePurgedJackMeHoff55
@TheSoonToBePurgedJackMeHoff55 11 місяців тому
Didn't he do that one already?
@cyberpunkfalangist2899
@cyberpunkfalangist2899 11 місяців тому
Our patron s/a/int
@MrSinclairn
@MrSinclairn 11 місяців тому
Sir John Fastolf,the prototypical inspiration for Shakespeare's 'Falstaff' ! 😁 P.S. When Joan of Arc entered Orleans,she was escorted by an Clan Oglivy member of the newly-raised Garde Ecossais.
@WhatIsSanity
@WhatIsSanity 11 місяців тому
Great video as always. An extremely salty comment section though. Engagement is engagement for the algo, but people are really embarrassing themselves out here.
@vender68
@vender68 11 місяців тому
if you came for the title skip to 15:00
@ZenexTheZealous
@ZenexTheZealous 11 місяців тому
Saint Joan of Arc, pray for us!!! ✝️❤️‍🔥👑⚜️
@user-cg2tw8pw7j
@user-cg2tw8pw7j 11 місяців тому
Jesus: Sorry, she's not wearing a headscarf
@MarquisVincentBissetdeGramont
@MarquisVincentBissetdeGramont 11 місяців тому
Thank you for this excellent video! 👏
@BinaryzeroNYC
@BinaryzeroNYC 11 місяців тому
I love history!
@ThePuschkin1986
@ThePuschkin1986 11 місяців тому
ah, La Hire...I remember him from the Age of Empires 2 campaign
@marauder7209
@marauder7209 11 місяців тому
Aaaah, La Hire's sword is not bloody enough!
@mortache
@mortache 11 місяців тому
Hey guys, Spirit of La Hire
@Frenchylikeshikes
@Frenchylikeshikes 11 місяців тому
La Hire, Du Guesclins, Jeanne d'Arc... these guys are just legends.
@Holybatman3603
@Holybatman3603 10 місяців тому
17-18th century French military leaders were also very great: De Villars, Condé, Turenne, Vendôme, the Duke of Luxemburg and many others of equal prowess.
@poseidon6666
@poseidon6666 11 місяців тому
watching it with a view on the Loire and the Tourelles, maybe the only time I'll be able to réate to a history video by looking at my window.
@ProvidenceNL
@ProvidenceNL 11 місяців тому
Love the video, but pretty sure Antrwerp should be Antwerp on the map ;).
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