Love the clip starting out with Lex talking about propaganda. "Everyone is convinced that anyone who disagrees with them is only convinced of that because of propaganda. While simultaneously being confident that they themselves are not under the influence of propaganda." That idea explains so many of our problems with communication today.

As an American living in Russia now, I can tell you that if you have face to face conversations with people (not internet chats), almost everyone knows the news is propaganda. This includes all classes and education levels. If you ask Americans if they are under propaganda most people say no. Although the media in the US strangely unites around most wars

the absolute whiplash of lex making measured, thoughtful statements vs rogan speculating about putins cancer from a photo where he "looks puffy" 🤣🤣

Lex: Everyone is influenced by some kind of propoganda Joe: So do you think Putin has cancer?

There’s an alternate universe where Joe graduated from MIT and Lex has the biggest podcast in the world

It's easier to convince someone of a lie than to convince them they've been lied to.

It's always interesting to watch people talking about things they think they understand (in this case Russia, Russians in general, Putin, Ukraine, Zelensky), and completely miss the fact that they look at their conversation's subjects through a glass prism of their own biased views on the world. In this case, obviously, a very American view. Same thing happens here in Russia, when people talk about the US. I'd love to see Joe Rogan interview an American citizen and a real Russian citizen (I mean someone living in Russia, not someone like Lex who is basically American since 11 y.o. and therefore has a very distorted view on modern Russians), and see them clash (peacefully of course). That would be a very eye-opening experience for everyone I think.

I am sorry for a lack of clear thinking from me about this crisis. It is too personal at this time, I have family in both places, and all I can think about is the fear, suffering, anger, and hate I see and hear directly from people I love on both sides. I constantly feel that I'm failing them and myself. I wish I was smarter or could understand the situation deeper. Please instead listen to people much more intelligent than me, for example the two I interviewed recently who give differing perspectives on this war: - Oliver Stone: ukposts.info/have/v-deo/sZdypY96b4CAsn0.html - Stephen Kotkin: ukposts.info/have/v-deo/apFod3qCqI2Uu2Q.html

Not only is it important to be aware of how much you're exposed to propaganda. It's important to be aware of your bias as well.

“Political leader who assassinates his enemy’s” U.S. Government: “we have an agency for that”

When podcasters interview each other.

Pretty generous to call this analysis. Lex has only a surface level of understanding of this crisis.

Today is the 8th year anniversary of the start of the war in Ukraine.

On one side Lex talking about freedom and value of a human being in the US, on other side we have Snowden and Assange. Think about it.

When the people have a common enemy to fight, they stop fighting each other. History has proven this time and time again

Joe needs to sit down with a person who actually knows about Russia and Ukraine. The understanding isn’t any different from the typical MSM, and it’s naive.

I'm often struck by how brilliant, educated people are still limited and controlled by their own ideological capture. So that they can only see everything from a one sided view. And almost no one knows this about themselves. Case in point.

You should have all episodes on UKposts - it’s so much better to watch with the video

I love what a romantic Lex is regarding their discussion on aliens and advanced civilizations...not knowing the answer to everything allows us to have a more beautiful human experience... in essence..I live both these guys but Lex is pure love

Lex: Everyone is influenced by some kind of propoganda Joe: Isnt there always a longing for a strong man?

Let's see how well this conversation ages in a couple years...

I dont know why I'm listening this guy about Ukraine and Russia. He knows as much as people who watch CNN.

It was nice to see Bustamante take Lex to school in this arena

US's respect for human right.. IS PROPAGANDA ! damn it, remember Yemen ? Afghanistan ? Irak ? Somalia ? Ethiopia ? ...

The propaganda is certainly working perfectly if both populations are convinced they're not under any propaganda. 🤣🤣

well i wont have any problem falling asleep if I can play this clip every night.

Nice to hear a point of view from far away. There a a lot of things with that i dont agree but its realy good to know some thoughts from people far away

Since he keeps bringing up India liking Putin, let me, an Indian, clarify certain things (of course I do not claim to represent all Indians and this is my view only). India/Indians have a historical liking towards American society (liberty, wealth, rationality, science, movies etc) but a simultaneous distrust towards their government (for their support for British empire, Pakistani and Afghani jihadis, apartheid S. Africa etc plus their constant need to put down our aspirations eg sanctions and assassinations for nuclear testing, interference in Kashmir issue etc). We may or may not like Putin, but we do support the Russian people and the Russian state for they have been a long-standing ally (especially for military/arms support, including their support for India in the 1971 war when USA+uk sent their fleets to enforce the genocide and mass rape of my people, the Bengalis, by Pakistan). Moreover, India has traditionally been in favour of a global status quo (as opposed to a unipolar world, whether led by either Russia/China/USA) that allows smaller, developing nations to have a political say/value, instead of being steamrolled by a hegemonic power. Ukraine itself aided Pakistan with offensive weapons. Hence, we Indians are rather hesitant to unnecessarily throw in our lot with the NATO. That being said, we do not hate/dislike Americans/Russians/Ukrainians, we love all of you + nor do we have any special liking for any particular western politician (though we do appreciate if they recognize us as a equal partner and show interest in developing a relationship with us).

Notice how Joe mirror Lex's communication style. He slows down, stays calm, keeps his tone neutral, never interrupts. He does it with his other guests too, but it only shows how on point his social awareness is. Love these two together.

Lex's attempt to rationalize this situation the way he is makes me feel he doesn't want to believe that we are the evil empire

Lex is like lets talk about what we can understand by how all these complicated facts interact and Joe cuts him off by asking, "what do you think of this famous conspiracy theorists opinion?"

"Smart people believe weird things because they are skilled at defending beliefs they arrived at for non-smart reasons." - Michael Shermer

Zelensky rating dropped not because of devision between East and West of the country, it actually became more united. It dropped because of questionable reforms, corruption, etc - pretty much we can say this about any country including US.

My opinion for what its worth: Tucker: Good on you for doing it. Putin: Not impressed with the responses "flat", uninspiring.

Considering Lex's personal bias he is very fair minded. He's still somewhat wrong, but honest which is huge in 2023.

This isn't analysis, Lex is just bumbling his way through stuff he seems to have a vague idea of but no detail or independent thought.

How are you going to talk about propaganda when you're not going to include the United States number one ranking on the list

I have had a number of course on Prednisolone to treat my MS. Photos taken of me at the time definitely show my face swollen. I believe it is called 'moon face' and is one of the reactions to Prednisolone (NZ name for it) or Prednisone.

IMHO the best source of information is to come and see for yourself. I'm a sailor, so I've travelled around the world and seen some things. Last time I've been to Syria we had some main engine malfunction, so we had to stay here for a while. During this time we were visiting several locations. There was an event in a town we were passing by. US marines checkpoint was surrounded by locals and some of them were armed. People yelled and threw some junk at yanks. They were quite pissed at those USMC guys, probably not without a reason. Situation got quite explosive so marines had to get out of there. A week later in Tartus we saw several russian checkpoints here and there and you know what? People seemed to like them. I've asked some locals about what they think of those russian guys. One Syrian soldier told me a story about earlier time when they fought against ISIS. There was a small town attacked by a large ISIS force. The town itself had only few russian paratroopers protecting it for quite a while and they were completely surrounded and running low on everything. That Syrian soldier was a part of a relief force send to aid russians. They couldn't lift the siege for a long time and he was sure that those russians didn't make it. They dug in at some small factory administrative building, the whole territory was covered with bodies the building itself was almost razed to the ground. But to his amazement he found russians alive. There was a single guy still standing, most others were heavily wounded, those that managed to remain conscious were still holding guns even when they couldn't even walk. The remaining guy tied his squad with hand grenades and everyone there was ready to die, but they got saved. That Syrian soldier was touched by the fact that russians fought for his homeland literally to their last breath like it was their own. Damn, you can say all you want but I've been in that country myself and saw with my own eyes how locals admire and respect russians and I'm sure that you can understand why after this story. West treats those people like second sort and calls their home a third world country, on top of that US forces razed several cities to the ground. At the same time russian soldiers are ready to die for them.. Things I saw expose all that bunch of lies and hypocrisy we get from official media. I refuse to believe that russians treat Ukrainians worse since they are their kin. So if you want to know the real thing come and see it for yourself. By believing in what someone tells you're not getting any real knowledge, but only buy their opinions, as Alan Watts once said. Have a good one and may the waves be good where you are.

This is a badass week of Rogan. Funny comedy with DiStefano, enlightenment with Brennan, and now this fucking philosophical robot. Damn!!!!

Always enjoy lex talks, but his level of knowledge in this matter is really limited.

Every time he closes his eyes you know he’s about to spit some 🔥 facts!!

Last 2 minutes are golden

I am sure many Americans & Europeans think that they are not influenced by propaganda too 😂😂

I love when the guest is just about to make a really interesting point and Joe interrupts them to ask a question. Even better if they never get back around to the point they were about to make.

Now that's how you waste 14mins of your life boys

The Oliver Stone Interviews are fascinating

Lex has gone from a guest I skipped over because I didn't know anything about him whatsoever. He has, over the past 3 years, become one of the few commentators on any platform that I truly trust on their perspective. He is thoughtful and measured and compassionate while also being hyper reasonable. Tip of the cap to him in a sea of misinformation.

I really appreciate Lex's approach (humility & open-mindedness), and I sympathize with what he must be going through being Russian/Ukrainian, but I can't help but feel he's totally missing the mark with the geopolitics and analysis

Wow that bit at the end about what 'spreading freedom' can look like to others is extremely based

10:50 because more weapon and deaths are better than negotiation. So great leadership.

I wonder if Lex ever thinks about how much propaganda has wormed its way into his brain.

13 minutes?! That's not enough time for lex to finish a sentence.

What a great analyst that closes his eyes to gather his thought and then wonder why Putin is so popular. Probably because he cant analyse a shit outside his American way of thought (?) or even think that USA has an NDP (near death president) and all other nations wonders the same

@7:35 Lex said "Zelensky united a previously divided country." Zelensky did not unite his country. The Russian speaking people of the Donbas have been targeted and warred against, continuously so from 2014 to 2022 when Putin intervened.

Lex has the right approach imo, hearing both sides out and then putting his honest opinion on the table. More people should take his approach.

A very simplified explanation of a major geopolitical problem.. there are too many holes to cover..Joe should invite someone that know how to explain what is going on in Europe at the moment and how we arrived to be afraid of an atomic bomb attack in 2022...many people listen the podcast, they deserve a better and clear analysis.

The Cold War never ended, it just took a nap.

He doesn't like bullies and your country and its leaders are bullies

Lex is a smart man, unless he start talking about politics.

This interview feels like Joe is asking some random high school kid about his thoughts.

6:48 as someone who lived 10 years in Ukraine, it's always funny to see people who seem to know much say ''east side is for Russia and the west is for Ukraine''. I lived in Sumy, that's east of Ukraine, 80 km from Russia. And in my 10 years there I only heard some 65+ years old people positively talk about russia. Further, everyone was biased. But of course some places, as Donetsk, are more pro russian because the people who live there are russian... Because of the Holodomor, the femine russia created in ukraine in the 90's, many ukrainians died and russia placed russians there. Most of them were inmates who got a deal to live freely but work in the mines in Donetsk. Now the same thing is happening in Mariupol. Russia killed off many ukrainians, and is now rebuilding the city and placing russians there. And in some time will also say: Hey, look at that, mariupol citizens like russia. Ofcourse, because most are Russians LOL

I think the first thing the doctor said when Lex was born was: He looks tired!

After all the guests that Lex have had. He seems to have such a shallow and limited view of the Ukrainian Russian situation. Joe must definitely get someone who really knows about this crisis. But again, Joe might not want to get in to it for real.

Geopolitics is definitely Lex’s weakest suit!

I am a graphics designer and my daily job is figuring out how to get someone to buy this, get that feeling or do that thing. If you think there's no propaganda in our society, you're just misunderstanding the word marketing.

But the nukes have always been at the ready, ever since we've had nukes. Perhaps more an indication of what was on Joe's (editors) mind when they strategically ended the video on this note. Either way, interesting videos and topics. Be interesting to see how this all plays out, long term. My gut tells me that China isn't so much keen on allying with Russia as it is in defying America, and a stable continent, given the grim outlook for the planet and the environment. Especially with a population as large as China's. Thoughts? 🤔 I'm afraid I'm too out of the political loop to know what's really going on over there, tbh. Entertaining shows, Joe. Cheers

Lex is such a smart guy and seems to have a really good heart but seems to be somewhat naive when it comes to the hardness of the world and how much propaganda and disinformation there is out there (yes even in the West).

With all the respect Lex doesnt know shit about Russia and Ukraine

LexGPT tells Rogan, “Putin BAD”. Are we sure this guy went to MIT and not made in MIT. 😂

Perfect paranoia is perfect awareness

The Double standards and the hypocrisy of this clip is unbelievable.

FDR was ahead of his time with Fireside chats. Having a president actively recognizing its nation’s problems was huge for keeping trust in your government.

Love Lex looks at things as they are, not how we want to perceive them.

i love how people from the states always have something to say about other people yet the usa had 300 years of history 299 years of war talking about a pathetic nation that profits from war

I️ usually agree with Joe on most things but 9-11 did not bring out the best in George Bush. Cmon now Joe.

"we lost because we fled from Afganistan" - but like, tf you were doing there in the first place 15000 km away from US???

Wars comes with a price, and the civilian's pay for it ....

can it stay in the subject? Chatbot that u had conversation about. Your example was, How can i replace car breaks, assuming there will be some more problems during the process of fixing, next question would be related to this issue, most probably next problem, like ("there are four nails, how can i remove them?") Can u continue with there are four nails, or you need to start all over again

Lol, Lex is sugar coating a lot of the information here. He clearly doesn't want to offend anyone and lose his platform

11:30 We admire self-restraint in leadership. It's a peculiar kind of strength that has fallen out of favor recently, but I think (hope) it will make a comeback.

The undertaker has spoken

I love how this guy critices propaganda and bias... then he tells us that the USA is a country that respects human rights haha each country fights for the interests of its own lobbies.. nothing else to say..

Meanwhile, Julian Assange is rotting in Belmarsh prison. London England.

When you read one article of news paper about half war/ half Russia and going to podcasts to talk about

I was born in Ukraine and have been living in it for 27 years. Lex is good at what he does, but all his analytics about Ukraine is very funny.

Lex reminds me of Sam Harris in that he appears thoughtfully choosing his words, but his end point is very vanilla and mainstream

This clip should be used for entertainment purposes. There are a lot of assumptions in this conversation. I am Ukrainian and have Russian family members.

Think Lex got the narrative on internal conflicts in Ukraine wrong. The “pro-Russia” vs “pro-west” divide existed pre-2014, but since then (after Russia took Crimea and entered the war in the east to Ukraine) the public opinion was decisively western oriented, which is the platform on which Zelensky was elected by overwhelming majority. The decline in ratings was consequence of failing to deliver change, but not because the population disagreed on the course.

Interview John Meirsheimer about the war. He’s a world renowned expert on this issue

This guy right on point ✔️

Joe Rogan is just now realizing he can't trust the New York Times. A bit late to the party.

Holy shit this segment killed half of my brain cells.

You trust the NYT to get it right Joe? 🤣🤣

Its propoganda they also accuse lukashenko of being puffy and also having cancer Its a way to make them loom weaker

This guy knows approximately as much about Ukraine or Russia, as I know about, say, research on life on mars.

I can't listen to this guy for more than two minutes without passing out from sonic boredom.

Lex Luther Fridman is under the influence of suits.

Joe, please bring on Douglas Macgregor, Jeff Sachs, John Mearsheimer.

Joe brings a level of analysis that only a 12 year old with GI Joes can emulate