John Cleese & Ed Kelly discuss survival of consciousness beyond death

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UVA Division of Perceptual Studies

UVA Division of Perceptual Studies

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John Cleese is a friend and supporter of the research being done at UVA DOPS into the nature of consciousness. Mr. Cleese has a long history of personal interest in this important area of inquiry.
In this video John Cleese and DOPS research faculty member Dr. Edward F. Kelly exchange ideas about current issues regarding scientific inquiry into the nature of consciousness. They discuss ideas and concepts related to survival of consciousness beyond the physical.
Dr. Kelly's recent books include "Irreducible Mind" and "Beyond Physicalism".
Follow this link for more information about these important books :med.virginia.edu/perceptual-s...
The Division of Perceptual Studies (DOPS) is a research unit within the Department of Psychiatry and Neurobehavioral Sciences at the University of Virginia Health System. The research faculty of the Division are known internationally for their expertise and research integrity in the investigation of phenomena relevant to the nature of consciousness and its relationship to the physical world.
DOPS was founded at UVA in 1967 by the late Dr. Ian Stevenson as a result of a generous donation from Xerox inventor Chester F. Carlson. Dr. Stevenson passed away in 2007. For 35 years, he served as the Director of the Division and held the Chester F. Carlson Professor of Psychiatry Chair. Upon Dr. Stevenson’s retirement in 2002, Dr. Bruce Greyson, the long-time editor of the Journal of Near-Death Studies, was appointed Director of the Division. Upon Dr. Greyson’s retirement, Dr. Jim Tucker became the director of DOPS in the fall of 2014.

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@theultimatereductionist7592
@theultimatereductionist7592 3 роки тому
I strongly agree with Cleese regarding the relative importance of solving death compared to other questions. I don't know why people think: "How did the universe begin?" "How will the universe end?" "Are we alone in the universe?" are the biggest, most important questions. I think "Can consciousness exist outside a body?" is a much more important question.
@marianwalters5241
@marianwalters5241 5 років тому
I've been listening to Dr. Peter Fenwick on YT. Fascinating. I definitely believe that we continue to exist after our bodies die.
@taja1976
@taja1976 3 роки тому
He's great isn't he. Also Dr Sam Parnia on NDE's and Dr Hameroff and Professor Penrose on their theory of Orchestrated objective reduction (Orch OR).
@clowntim1
@clowntim1 3 роки тому
have you looked into Dr Bruce Greyson? He’s done a ton of research on near death experiences.
@mary-annsheridan4850
@mary-annsheridan4850 2 роки тому
THERE IS OVERWHELMING PROOF OF THIS FACT, THAT OUR CONSCIOUSNESS (SOME CALL IT OUR SOUL OR SPIRIT) IS ETERNAL... AND MAY CHOOSE TO LIVE INSIDE MANY BODIES IF IT NEEDS TO KEEP LEARNING LESSONS ON THE EARTH SCHOOL.
@MsTammi125
@MsTammi125 5 років тому
If you brought up this topic at dinner you'd be the most interesting person in the room. 😄🍻
@conephompany
@conephompany 3 роки тому
'Science is not a belief system, it's a method of inquiry'
@singsangsungable
@singsangsungable 3 роки тому
So true about the incorrigible stubbornness of mainstream scientists
@daz9052
@daz9052 5 днів тому
More of this type off content on UKposts please.
@theultimatereductionist7592
@theultimatereductionist7592 Рік тому
4:00 THANK you for saying this! I have devoted my entire life to ADD to our cumulative knowledge by researching mathematics: nonlinear differential equations, in particular.
@luisfbjunqueira5837
@luisfbjunqueira5837 2 роки тому
Thanks for this
@dalilas.v.4950
@dalilas.v.4950 5 років тому
Awesome!
@billyoumans1784
@billyoumans1784 5 років тому
Science is rigidly dogmatic about materialism for good reason: to return to a world run by religious superstition would be terrifying. To base decisions on any kind on data that is not falsifiable would mean going back to a world of abuses and power grabs justified by visions and communications from God. If I had to choose between a world of religious dogmatism and one of scientific dogmatism there is no question which I would take. But John is quite right. The denial of data suggestive of the survival of consciousness after physical death is the result of a completely unscientific set of assumptions. That matter is all that exists and that nothing exists apart from matter is a settled question in science. This may be true; but the anecdotal evidence - and it is evidence- of thousands of people suggests that consciousness is possible apart from the body. It is pure dogmatism on the part of science to deny the possibility that such testimony is anything other than delusion. It is, as John says, precisely the same kind of pre-determined conclusion that sent people to the stake during the Inquisition. Now we simply tar their academic standing, which destroys them in a much subtler and more devastating way than killing them did. Science has mistaken the limits of science for the limits of reality. Science must expand its horizon, or it will become as irrelevant as Catholicism is now.
@C3l3bi1
@C3l3bi1 4 роки тому
"would mean going back to a world of abuses and power grabs justified by visions and communications from God." You already live in that world, what alot of these "scientistism" people dont understand fundemantally is that religion is an expression of human nature, if you get rid of religion you achieve nothing other then just replacing it with something else. When "science" becomes dogmatic it itself is no longer science. Just like removing the aspects of humanity that take the form of religion would be like removing humanity itself
@theultimatereductionist7592
@theultimatereductionist7592 3 роки тому
"Science is rigidly dogmatic about materialism for good reason: to return to a world run by religious superstition would be terrifying. " THANK you. Your most important point.
@andreasmetzen
@andreasmetzen 2 роки тому
Mr. Kelly are you aware of Sir Penrose's Orch OR model! It aligns with your findings on consciousness!
@mugsofmirth8101
@mugsofmirth8101 10 місяців тому
Brilliant!
@heliopolis
@heliopolis 3 роки тому
John and Ed, have either of you read “Travels” by Michael Crichton? I don’t believe everything in it, but it’s fascinating and very brave
@MamaZShaman
@MamaZShaman 2 роки тому
The "life" has long decades been tedious among the flat, cognitively dissonant and yet my maternal grandmother knew and began my guidance in 1965. I met Dr Ian Stevenson and Sitchin learned before 5 to hear The Ancestors, sense auras and move with nature omens I don't comport with most women in my age of 60 they are limited and flat.
@junevandermark952
@junevandermark952 2 роки тому
The neurosurgeon Eben Alexander, (who was raised in a religious household) believed that his positive thoughts of heaven during his near-death experiences were “real” … but that his negative experiences were fantasy and hallucination. By the way, his brain had pus in it, so it was little wonder that he was hallucinating. From his book … Proof of Heaven, by Eben Alexander, M. D. come the following words … “The most interesting thing about this session of nightmares and paranoid fantasies, in retrospect, is that all of it was indeed that: a fantasy.” And more, from the same book … Proof of Heaven, by Eben Alexander, M. D. … “I was going through something called “ICU psychosis.” It’s normal, even expected, for patients whose brains are coming back online after being inactive for a long period. I’d seen it many a time, but never from the inside. And from the inside it was very, very different indeed.”
@Driver2724
@Driver2724 8 місяців тому
No you wrong dr Eben Alexander was non believer including his parents. He had extraordinary life after death. I believe him
@glenmiles6279
@glenmiles6279 4 роки тому
Listen to Tom Campbell.
@doradestroy
@doradestroy 3 роки тому
♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️
@emmashalliker6862
@emmashalliker6862 4 роки тому
Alfred North Whiteheads process philosophy.
@blokeification
@blokeification 10 місяців тому
Since becoming interested in NDE's I look forward to death, while being more interested in life, (like John and Ed-:).
@vivianastridge2167
@vivianastridge2167 2 роки тому
No one but no one really, truly , sincerely and genuinely believes in the after life and/or a space or region where one would be dealt with according to ones deeds in this life. If the majority of the worlds population did in fact believe in an after life, this world would be a veritable paradise. No one born and living in third world countries would wish for a continuance of the misery that is this life here and now. I myself born and forced to live in what can only be referred to as a shit hole of a country, would never ever, wish for a continuance of the wretchedness that is this life for most of us. Most over here would consider themselves to be blessed by the gods if they could manage a proper meal once in three days. I myself for the best years of my life have been destitute living off the kindness of others. Quantum reality has been used and continues to be used to bolster the possibility of an after life. Quantum physics concerns itself with essentially physical entities, strange though those entities may be. These are no more strange then so called atoms and elementary particles which are supposed to be or proved to be just energy particle but possessed of mass a true impossibility in the ordinary sense. So what is so impossible with quantum entities. If one exists in the after life then so be it, but if it is taken to mean that personality, individuality and this life consciousness are attributes that are embodied in quantum particles what is the need for a physical body. No one thinks of himself or herself as quantum particles or quantum realities, Remove the body and that is the end of you and me unless it is further taken for granted and accepted as proved, that the present body in its full present form can and does exist in quantum reality. The enormous effort expended over thousands of years, by apparently the greatest minds, scientists, philosophers and religionists , intellectuals and of course the common man all amounts to a pile of horse or the preferred present reality term, bull shit.
@orangeSoda35
@orangeSoda35 5 років тому
You should have asked him what he wanted on his Tombstone.
@LoobyLooSue
@LoobyLooSue 22 дні тому
😂🤣 Very good
@MsDenver2
@MsDenver2 3 роки тому
Just believe you must except Yeshua and be born again, read 1 cor 15
@connorduke4619
@connorduke4619 5 років тому
Nice conversation but I'm a few hundred years ahead of these gentlemen on this topic. In reality, astrology, psychological projection, law of attraction, forgiveness practice, virtue ethics, yoga chakras and soul age are intimately connected with each other and define the roadmap of our lives (yes life deliberately with an 's' added).
@samuelspoons3553
@samuelspoons3553 4 роки тому
Like to know more
@connorduke4619
@connorduke4619 4 роки тому
@@samuelspoons3553 np, check out my link on this very topic: qr.ae/TWGd1j
@mysterryable
@mysterryable 4 місяці тому
Clearly Evolution exists. We see it taking place in minor ways (impacts of climate change, transformation of landscapes, changes in migratory patterns, social adaptations, racial mixing, changes in language)... these even within short periods of time. However, it is a logical error to say that because Evolution explains some things, it explains everything. It frankly doesn't. No one can explain (for example) the chicken and egg sequence problems that confound claims for the evolutionary mutations necessary in accomplishing binocular vision, including the engineering of biological eyes, their control systems, the pathways for transmission of light data, or the software code that attaches meaning to collected light data. Especially perplexing for evolutionists is the paradox that brains grow out of eyes in higher mamals. No eyes, ...no complex biological being regulated and able to perform tasks because of its neural network. No eyes, ...no limbs. No limbs,... no ability to nourish the biological matter of the eyes. etc etc. The doctinaire faith in Evolution is another example of the role of mandatory education in devolving the species.
@ianmorris4922
@ianmorris4922 Місяць тому
Not from me there wouldn't be Mr.Cheese!
@imreadyalready5232
@imreadyalready5232 2 роки тому
Lol, thanks John Cleese for asking the universe for a more exciting time because everything was boring 🤦🏼‍♀️
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