Jonathan Pie: Having a pop at Brexit and Tory voters is 'gross' | ITV News

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Mocking Brexit and Tory voters is "gross", says Jonathan Pie actor Tom Walker - and a whole generation of comedians might soon have to find other things to joke about.
The comedian, whose career has grown with 14 years of Tory governments, admits much of his success has been down to Conservative chaos but accepts it's likely he'll soon have to turn on Keir Starmer.
Jonathan Pie is a satirical news correspondent who found success for his "off-air" moments in which the reporter rants about politics apparently without realising the camera is still rolling.
Pie's creator Walker, who is currently giving the Tories what could be his final kicking in a stage tour, spoke to ITV News about the future of UK politics, comedy and satire.
Jonathan Pie: Heroes & Villains is at The Duke of York's Theatre until Saturday, April 27.
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@rrbh
@rrbh 10 днів тому
I don't watch Pie for fun or light-hearted giggle sessions - his rants are generally how I am feeling , so I rage along with every word.
@Godonstilts
@Godonstilts 10 днів тому
They are more than just comedic rants, they are straight to the heart cutting observations of the sheer absudity of what our so called 'leaders' are doing, along with their bare faced corruption. No wonder Pie is angry, Tom is likely just as angry but holding back for this interview.
@Mike-un5hy
@Mike-un5hy 10 днів тому
He makes MSN seem like a parody in which it is compared to Pies rants of truth
@PassiveAgressive319
@PassiveAgressive319 10 днів тому
Me too. He just gets it
@amrobinson6124
@amrobinson6124 9 днів тому
@rrbh I feel the same. I call it 'second-hand catharsis'.
@niceguyjohnny
@niceguyjohnny 8 днів тому
100% agree
@tasty_fish
@tasty_fish 10 днів тому
Walker's skill is that he's able to identify failings and hypocrisy on all political colours. It's just the Tories have given him bucketloads of material to work with. I'm sure whoever gets into power will not be treated any differently.
@millrace32
@millrace32 10 днів тому
i think he probably just trawls web comments & repackages what 'we' are saying, then sells it back to us
@johncannon3411
@johncannon3411 10 днів тому
nonsense
@mobsiesixsixsix9785
@mobsiesixsixsix9785 10 днів тому
@@johncannon3411 That word doesn't mean what you think it does.
@jonathanstewart7838
@jonathanstewart7838 10 днів тому
I'm sure whoever gets into power will not be treated any differently. Well they will be treated differently and it makes it harder to do so, but the corruption ineptitude and the intellectual vacuity of these Tories is not something we have seen for a 100 years.
@mobsiesixsixsix9785
@mobsiesixsixsix9785 10 днів тому
@@jonathanstewart7838 Sadly it's directed by profit and that's all USA based. You can't have power in any country unless the USA agrees to it first. It's getting worse because everything is getting worse. Really, don't expect to much from Labour either. We saw what happened when there was an actual leftwinger, he was smeared to within an inch of his life just for asking for reasonable things. Neo Liberalism doesn't disappear with the tories.
@miketgl4543
@miketgl4543 7 днів тому
This man has become the voice of a frustrated, unheard, and tired generation.
@Le4befar
@Le4befar 6 днів тому
49% of a tired generation
@garybarry9365
@garybarry9365 6 днів тому
He's the voice of whiney, virtue signalling city dwellers that have no idea about the real world.
@terryfinch9319
@terryfinch9319 5 днів тому
No 99%
@Le4befar
@Le4befar 5 днів тому
@terryfinch9319 reality and maths missing from your reply.
@PitchPerfectDesign
@PitchPerfectDesign 5 днів тому
the voice of half a frustrated, unheard and tired generation.
@karlfran0404
@karlfran0404 10 днів тому
I remember when Rik Mayall’s character Alan B’Stard switched to New Labour. Genius.
@pulchralutetia
@pulchralutetia 9 днів тому
Not much of a switch, to be fair!
@jamesthecat
@jamesthecat 7 днів тому
Yes, and remember how anti-Thatcher the actual writers were!
@lemsip207
@lemsip207 7 днів тому
Even my parents could see through Blair and they voted Conservative. They hated that emptiness in him. I think they would have rathered Margaret Beckett or John Prescott was Prime Minister.
@dianegerrard6241
@dianegerrard6241 6 днів тому
hmm all the sure-start projects!
@fredatlas4396
@fredatlas4396 5 днів тому
​@@lemsip207Perhaps that's why because they were con-servative supporters. Things were as a matter of fact much better under the last Labour government from 1997 up until 2010
@Lumibear.
@Lumibear. 10 днів тому
Well that was one of the best interviews of Tom on Pie that I’ve seen in a long time. Normally the ‘interviewer’ takes a snobby stance that makes the whole thing just a defence of existence, but this guy actually allowed Tom to talk. Nice.
@phily8093
@phily8093 8 днів тому
Surely you can't be snobby when in possession of a trailer park mullet?
@Lumibear.
@Lumibear. 8 днів тому
@@phily8093 well maybe that’s the solution eh? All we need is the entire news team of Channel 4 and the BBC to all get mullets!
@phily8093
@phily8093 8 днів тому
@@Lumibear. It's no doubt happening as we speak
@Lumibear.
@Lumibear. 7 днів тому
@@phily8093 Can’t wait to see it! XD
@lookoutleo
@lookoutleo 8 днів тому
Johnathan pie is brilliant . In the 80s their were a few programs that were close to the edge but in last 20 years their was nobody taking the folk in power to task , hes a breath of fresh air :)
@DrummerBoy233
@DrummerBoy233 2 дні тому
I've liked this character for years and he's almost the British equivalent to Australian TV show, 'Shaun Micallef's Mad As Hell'. It aired in Australia for just over 10 years and wrapped last year. The only difference between them: 'Mad As Hell' has Shaun Micallef presenting as a frustrated news anchor in studio to a live audience. Recurring actors played "guest speakers" attempting to advocate for each event reported on. But 9/10 they shot their own feet off. I used it to get my filler of weekly news, it was fantastic.
@spunkychops7484
@spunkychops7484 10 днів тому
Jonathan pie is amazing
@stevenredpath9332
@stevenredpath9332 6 днів тому
As an old left-winger I despair at both major parties. Starmers’ Labour Party is walking the same path as the Tories, just less extreme. No more heroes anymore.
@benh715
@benh715 4 дні тому
Ha
@RavenRuled
@RavenRuled 4 дні тому
Agree, the choice should be between losing a leg or an arm. There should be a 3rd option which allows you to keep both!!!
@JT_Williams
@JT_Williams 3 дні тому
Reform is only sensible option
@markianross
@markianross 3 дні тому
​@@JT_Williamswhy?
@mickmarsbar81
@mickmarsbar81 2 дні тому
@@markianrossBecause all sane people hate Labour and the Tories with equal contempt.
@markrhoden68
@markrhoden68 10 днів тому
In my teen years we had Spitting Image to mock the Politicians, Pie is a more intelligent grown up idea of humour. I'd like to see him on say Question Time put some heat under professional politicians
@GregOrCreg
@GregOrCreg 10 днів тому
I was too young to fully appreciate Spitting Image, but I always liked the idea of the show, and was impressed with the puppets, but after seeing the revival and recalling a few older sketches, I feel that most of it was scatological and vulgar than genuinely witty. The people behind the show seemed to have a childish obsession with faecal matter which makes it difficult to watch. It's a shame and such a waste of a potentially clever premise and some truly inspired puppets.
@geoffpoole483
@geoffpoole483 10 днів тому
@@GregOrCreg The Spitting Image scripts weren't great. Take a look at the Not the Nine O'Clock News sketch "Constable Savage". It's over 40 years old but hasn't dated at all.
@GregOrCreg
@GregOrCreg 10 днів тому
@@geoffpoole483 Totally agreed that there was/is far better satire than Spitting Image. It's just a shame because SI had the potential to be better in view of the puppets and the fact that it focused on current events.
@markrhoden68
@markrhoden68 9 днів тому
Also 'Yes Minister' stranger than fiction
@GregOrCreg
@GregOrCreg 9 днів тому
@@markrhoden68 I was a bit too young for that, but I've read some of the scripts, and they were indeed very sharp and clever.
@rogueceska
@rogueceska 10 днів тому
This type of political satire was rife in the thatcher era and probably played a small part in their downfall in the end, as well as being a balm, it was also on mainstream tv all the time, Pie is exactly what we need unfortunately he is 1 man and we need an army of him.
@grumbo39
@grumbo39 9 днів тому
It was funny. And richly deserved. Shame kids are more interested in brain dead TikTok videos now. :(
@jamesthecat
@jamesthecat 7 днів тому
I know what you mean, and I dearly hope it does have an effect, but I wonder how effective it actually was in the past. Spitting Image was absolutely scathing of Thatcher, turning her into some weird dehumanized robotic Caligula-type figure by the end, and millions (most with only 4 TV channels and no internet) were glued to it, and laughed it up, but still apparently voted for her, when it came down to it, as long the economy was going well. The recession and the poll tax seemed to be the breaking points, and analysts now say that even 'old Labour' (with Neil Kinnock or, preferably, John Smith) would have got in at that time. Another one of those 'sliding doors' moments...!
@Le4befar
@Le4befar 6 днів тому
The army is already on the street. Uniform consists of a stretched out ear lobes and blue/green hair.
@lifesbutastumble
@lifesbutastumble 4 дні тому
@@jamesthecat They did bring back Spitting Image for a time, but for some reason it ended far too soon. I did notice they we're as biting as he original series, so maybe that's why it never took off?
@richardbyrnes8398
@richardbyrnes8398 10 днів тому
He is the closest we've got to an opposition in this country. Seen this tour twice, in the diehard lefty redoubts of Oxford and Bath. The cheering to his rants (especially Coffey on the pier) was visceral. There's so much anger out there. Also, nice to see the mullet making a comeback.
@jakehowie442
@jakehowie442 3 дні тому
Lefty? Is he? I’m sure there are plenty of left wing students in Bath, Oxford
@richardbyrnes8398
@richardbyrnes8398 3 дні тому
@@jakehowie442 Most of the audiences were in their 40s or above.
@chrisholland7367
@chrisholland7367 3 дні тому
Absolutely agree. His sledgehammer satire projects the anger and frustration most people are feeling. He's brilliant.
@patrickquinlan3056
@patrickquinlan3056 11 днів тому
Pie's cover of Trump's win in 2016 was pure comedic genius.
@mum2jka
@mum2jka 11 днів тому
Or was it the cover of Clinton losing in 2016 that was brilliant...
@piccalillipit9211
@piccalillipit9211 10 днів тому
It was the single best take on it of any commentator - it was exceptionally good.
@patrickquinlan3056
@patrickquinlan3056 10 днів тому
@@mum2jka No, Clinton was an exceptionally poor candidate who caused her own loss and allowed that lump of orange snot to win. Anyway, what has that got to do with Pie?
@kaasmeester5903
@kaasmeester5903 10 днів тому
@@piccalillipit9211He was spot-on about the dangers of vilifying political opponents and their supporters. A lesson that we sadly haven’t learned, quite the opposite.
@karmaascendant3936
@karmaascendant3936 10 днів тому
@@kaasmeester5903i don’t want to be that guy but I feel like calling Trump voters deplorables is bad but backing this government after it’s failures in literally every metric for the last 14 years is worth the shame. There’s only so long someone can be blind to the truth before there’s no point trying to be nice to them. There’s a difference between disagreement on abortion for example and hard evidence that the government that you’ve voted for has failed on their manifesto to the tune of 80% failure rate and to vote again for them when they don’t have a functioning plan or the ability to generate new ones.
@jimcraiggeezer
@jimcraiggeezer 10 днів тому
This guy is a legend.. very insightful.
@NapoleonSolo61
@NapoleonSolo61 10 днів тому
I can't get over that guys Mullet 🤣
@MrMmnngghh
@MrMmnngghh 10 днів тому
Sensational 🪮
@pulchralutetia
@pulchralutetia 9 днів тому
It screams Duesseldorf 1986. He just needs the bleached jeans to go with it.
@mookyzook
@mookyzook 9 днів тому
That's what happens when you grow out the modern man's haircut. You know the one that looks like you've been locked up in a foreign jail or been conscripted to the army in the past. Long on the top, almost shaved at the sides The Turkish barber look. 🤣
@Kettlepip
@Kettlepip 8 днів тому
I love how younger folks currently often look like they're cosplaying as extras from 80s episodes of Home and Away.
@pulchralutetia
@pulchralutetia 8 днів тому
@@Kettlepip It’s a sign of their desperation.
@ES-qm5hr
@ES-qm5hr 10 днів тому
All my brain is doing is going, "Blah, blah, blah, MULLET!"
@ManuelRomeroArcos-vx4qh
@ManuelRomeroArcos-vx4qh 10 днів тому
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@vickygarnett7623
@vickygarnett7623 10 днів тому
WHY do young people think this a good look? They clearly didn’t live through the trauma the first time round.
@Lumibear.
@Lumibear. 10 днів тому
@@vickygarnett7623 they weren’t there mannnn, they weren’t there (smokes cigarettes with trembling fingers)… Tbh it’s more whenever the bowl cut comes back that weirds me out.
@MrMmnngghh
@MrMmnngghh 10 днів тому
@@Lumibear. I blame late nineties to early 2000's emo for the Return Of The Bowl Cut
@ES-qm5hr
@ES-qm5hr 10 днів тому
@@vickygarnett7623 You see young people have no authentic culture of their own now that social media has homogenized and commercialized everything, so they are doomed to repeat an endless death loop of past bad taste because they are unable to create anything new.
@colinwhite5355
@colinwhite5355 10 днів тому
Did I just witness someone from the north east doing an interview? Refreshing.
@user-pm8uc5dc3e
@user-pm8uc5dc3e 10 днів тому
Sadly ruined by an horrendous mullet.
@nebularain3338
@nebularain3338 10 днів тому
@@user-pm8uc5dc3e Appearance has nothing to do with skill. Also, it's "a mullet". Not "an mullet".
@user-pm8uc5dc3e
@user-pm8uc5dc3e 10 днів тому
@@nebularain3338 Get an haircut you scruff
@colinwhite5355
@colinwhite5355 10 днів тому
@@user-pm8uc5dc3e Let’s not judge a book by its cover - even if the cover is pretty terrible.
@g7vqedave2
@g7vqedave2 9 днів тому
Definitely "an" horrendous mullet and a good interviewer/interview.
@robertlaw.
@robertlaw. 10 днів тому
An out of work actor jumped at the chance to commodify impotent rage. A strong earner in 2020s Britain.
@ColinBarrett001
@ColinBarrett001 8 днів тому
He taps into the visceral rage felt by the true majority against this appalling Tory regime and their awful brexit.
@lemsip207
@lemsip207 7 днів тому
He played Tom Parker Bowles in a made for TV film about Prince William following the death of his mother. His father made him hang out with Camilla's children but they were a bad influence on him.
@Hellwyck
@Hellwyck 11 днів тому
That interviewer must be in demand, Pie got him halfway through his haircut!
@Warbaman
@Warbaman 10 днів тому
What an embarrassment to walk down the street like that ay? The mind boggles.
@MrMmnngghh
@MrMmnngghh 10 днів тому
@@Warbaman Mullet is as Mullet does, champ
@luke7708
@luke7708 9 днів тому
Best comment! It's compounded when they have a moustache to boot. The early 80's look is not one I thought would come back.
@user-jb1me4bm1v
@user-jb1me4bm1v 10 днів тому
This guy is absolutely brilliant, he says what a real interviewer should say , instead of media right wing bias that our toxic media dish out
@stephentyler9697
@stephentyler9697 10 днів тому
True talent! This mans contribution to satire is Without doubt genius Thank you!!
@MarvinofMars
@MarvinofMars 10 днів тому
Pie is a legend. Being ex rescue services I have been interviewed live, then when the live report cut, the presenters really went to town on the idiots who caused incident. Pie has the ECHR carinage, Rwanda, Labour back tracking on election promises. ( it will be hard with the debt the UK is in!)
@tonyb9560
@tonyb9560 10 днів тому
The Labour party introduced the minimum wage, the NHS, workers rights etc. The politicians are not all the same. The tory party are responsible for the mess .They only care about their bank balance.
@latchmere100
@latchmere100 10 днів тому
The Labour Party has not done a thing for the working classes. They ruined this country under Blair.
@anglodoomer5995
@anglodoomer5995 10 днів тому
You're literally describing Kid Starver
@Samuel-hd3cp
@Samuel-hd3cp 10 днів тому
Yea, a bit like Madonna, I only like their early stuff. All the recent stuff is rubbish.
@tonyb9560
@tonyb9560 10 днів тому
@@Samuel-hd3cp The Tories have been like Boyz II men for a long time.Just ask Mr Menzies and his friends in the party.
@henghistbluetooth7882
@henghistbluetooth7882 7 днів тому
The current tories are the worst. But the Labour Party didn’t introduce workers rights. That was the liberal party from 1830 up to ww1. The Labour Party continued the tradition. And although I would applaud the NHS and the minimum wage, they also introduced the ;government messing with private businesses’ philosophy that destroyed our automotive and aviation industries. Nobody is perfect.
@RantingCentre
@RantingCentre 8 днів тому
Went to see him live and was blown away by this...would thoroughly recommend :)
@Krymefighter
@Krymefighter 10 днів тому
Great observations, demonising your opponents voters, no matter how much you dislike their views, does neither side any favours. Also liked the point about politicians not feeling like they can be in a position to apologise for getting something wrong. I think changing that narrative would instantly restore a small measure of integrity back into politics across the spectrum.
@mayhem492
@mayhem492 7 днів тому
Pie began from a refreshingly impartially position, happy to have a pop at both sides. Inevitably his creator realised that a drift to the left ensured being embraced by a younger, more enthusiastic fan base and inevitably more lucrative.
@DavidBrown-bs7gg
@DavidBrown-bs7gg День тому
Agreed, I preferred his impartial stance, I stopped watching when he became clearly biased
@breakfreak3181
@breakfreak3181 17 годин тому
He may see his character as satire, but in truth it is *spot on* political observation. He maybe playing for laughs, but all too often Jonathan Pie sums up what is *really* going on and *exactly* how I feel.
@OptimisticHominid
@OptimisticHominid 10 днів тому
People who say that Sunak and Starmer are the same need some extra brain cells.
@brianferguson7840
@brianferguson7840 10 днів тому
Perhaps two ? To double the existing stock !
@piccalillipit9211
@piccalillipit9211 10 днів тому
I dont like Starmer - Im not a Corbinite - but Starmer is a slimy greasy standard politician who would sell his mother for power - IMO. BUT - Sunak would sell the COUNTY and is selling the country for personal financial gain - he will make disabled people poorer and more miserable JUST to hang on a bit longer to try and get his India trade deal - he is a terrible human being and there is NO comparison with Starmer. Starmer scored 3/10 but Sunak scores minus several million
@theghostoftom
@theghostoftom 10 днів тому
My guy, Starmer has been binning promises and running to the Right for years. He got rid of every Labour MP who backed unions, you know the thing Labour was built on. He blackmailed the speaker. Openly. He has openly talked about further austerity measures. He takes cash from a "green energy" company which chops trees in Canada into wood chips and wants to ship them across the Atlantic to burn here as biofuels. He has no intention of bringing in proportional representation. He spent years as a human rights lawyer. Pretends that Israeli war crimes are legal. Basically he has done everything he could to show anyone paying attention that he is another "new labour" Tory in a red tie.
@st.george007
@st.george007 10 днів тому
Absolutely correct, they both need more brain cells and then maybe they can be a bit different.
@laurencefox5884
@laurencefox5884 10 днів тому
They are both Tories. So there are some similarities...
@roberthorwat6747
@roberthorwat6747 10 днів тому
I remember when Colin Baker was at Westminster, cold feet, warm heart, married, several children, pissed off, dreadfully pissed off!
@Bromley68
@Bromley68 10 днів тому
"This is Colin Baker, the Old Bailey......soaked.....married, with several children....an aching heart......pissed off.....really dreadfully pissed off"
@roberthorwat6747
@roberthorwat6747 10 днів тому
@@Bromley68 spot on! It was a long time ago and actually funnier than I remembered it🤣
@Bromley68
@Bromley68 10 днів тому
@@roberthorwat6747 If I remember, Baker's report had almost no details, he hadn't even been given the names of the defendants, he had obviously been told to stand there in the pouring rain doing an utterly pointless report with no information. I remember all this because my friend's dad worked for ITN and at Xmas parties, they would recite Baker's diatribe in the same way that Monty Python fans can recite whole sketches :)
@katalinhorvath8139
@katalinhorvath8139 День тому
Pie helps me to understand important events in the UK. Nothing less than that. On top of that Pie allows me to feel what I feel.
@matt-lo8ut
@matt-lo8ut 7 днів тому
8:12 Exactly! People's obsession with hypocrisy is pathetic. If you look closely enough everyone is a hypocrite to some degree. It doesn't matter. What does matter is doing your best to do the right thing.
@mayhem492
@mayhem492 3 дні тому
Disagree strongly with this position; “People’s obsession with hypocrisy (as demonstrated by politicians and other powerful people) is pathetic”. This statement is a sad inditement of the culture we are now living in. Hypocrisy at this level, involves double standards, deceit, betrayal and a disregard of the standards one supposedly stood for when appealing to be placed in a position of authority and should be exposed then punished accordingly.
@williamblackwell2978
@williamblackwell2978 11 днів тому
Tom, your idea of choice in your next election is how I consider mine; we’re not voting for a candidate per se, but rather we’re voting against a candidate. Anyone but Trump secures my vote. Anyone but Tory probably gets yours PS. You should get awards for the best rants ever. love them.
@millennialmale4879
@millennialmale4879 10 днів тому
unfortunately the tories arent the worst in uk. we have growing far right parties like reform uk.
@stephenoxf
@stephenoxf 10 днів тому
@@millennialmale4879 I see reform as a positive thing, because it means we'll get a change in government, even if it is 2024-era Labour.
@kaasmeester5903
@kaasmeester5903 10 днів тому
Isn’t that what happened back in 2016 as well? Trump was a bit of an unknown, politically speaking. While Clinton was the very embodiment of everything that people thought was wrong with politics. I’m no American, but in ‘16 I might have very well voted against Clinton, i.e. for Trump.
@gribblethemunchkin
@gribblethemunchkin 10 днів тому
I think over here its a rejection of the tory manner of governing that people are rejecting, we can't really vote against any particular candidate because they never last long enough to become the central problem. The last two didn't even win a general election, just a tory party leadership campaign. Its been 14 years now and we are just sick of the constant scandal and lack of actual governing. I think most people just want politics to be boring again, to not have this constant stream of half mad weirdos in charge and the constant scandals.
@clayface563
@clayface563 10 днів тому
@@stephenoxfthat’s insane
@antonycharnock2993
@antonycharnock2993 9 днів тому
I'm a Labour supporter and even I think Keir is worthy of ridicule
@user-qd2pc5gz4n
@user-qd2pc5gz4n 11 днів тому
We need more people like pie in parliament ❤
@bkolumban
@bkolumban 10 днів тому
...so more made up characters?
@floyd1186
@floyd1186 10 днів тому
We have enough comedians
@hitthenorth9667
@hitthenorth9667 10 днів тому
More lefties ? Surely we’ve got enough ?!?
@terryboland3816
@terryboland3816 10 днів тому
More people who refuse to discuss their tax arrangements for money they were given by Russian state propagandists? Is that what we need? Really?
@MichaelSchuerig
@MichaelSchuerig 7 днів тому
Making an actor president didn't work out half bad for Ukraine. (I'm not so sure about the US in the 80s.)
@Skiamakhos
@Skiamakhos 7 днів тому
It may be gross but it needs saying. I mean, you could argue that it's punching down, where it concerns working class Tories & Brexit voters, that as people who consistently fall for the spin & vote against their own best interests, it's like beating up someone with special needs, someone with an intellectual disability, but those people on the whole don't inflict suffering on the rest of the world. Most mentally disabled people are quite pleasant to be around, once you get past any prejudices you might have. Voting to make your kids and grandkids and everyone of their generations materially poorer to benefit the already bloody rich deserves mockery at the very least.
@truthteller6993
@truthteller6993 5 днів тому
You sound like part of the problem insulting 17 million in your morally superior bubble, instead of taking the time to understand why they voted the way they did. How about blaming previous governments for wrecking whole industry's, but leaving vacuum's in their place, then constantly lying in their manifesto's how they would improve their lives? Add in the effects of austerity, a lack of new housing, poor public services and an NHS in decline, large-scale immigration which kept their wages low, all of which adversely affected working class area's the most. I'm certainly not defending the Tories poor record, and l predict Labour will win big on a low turnout, but soon they will become as equally despised by looking down their noses at their traditional voters, just like you are doing, then becoming an unpopular one-term government more interested playing gesture politics than making radical reforms.
@nickxcore74
@nickxcore74 8 днів тому
I’m sick of putting up with the lesser of two evils, but the brainwashed masses still seem to tolerate this totally corrupt system that we’re living under.
@user-bv5lc1nf5d
@user-bv5lc1nf5d 5 днів тому
Very true. I am a Bennite by birth, but have been shunted over to Reform because the Left no longer want people like me anywhere near their 'safe space'. Why do people vote for the Labour-Tory Uniparty - it's because of fear, fear that there's no other option and that no other party can ever win because that's just how it is. Ask any Labour or Tory voter why and, if they don't have a mental breakdown because you asked, they cannot give an honest response - 'the alternative isn't worth considering', 'the Tories are corrupt', 'Labour love paedos' etc. etc. Basically, you have a circular feedback between two opposing factions who actually NEED each other - one is the boogeyman of the other. Of course, there's no reason why Reform UK or Rejoin EU can't be the parties of power - it takes 326 seats won and if either party can do that then they will form the next Government. Reform becoming the party of Government might make some suicidal, but others would welcome it and (same as if Rejoin EU won) it would be a fresh alternative. People have to think back to 2020 and Covid-19 - neither Tories or Labour covered themselves with any glory or dignity with what happened, because Uniparty Neolibs do not give a sh*t about anybody or anything other than themselves. You're poor - f*ck you, your tax is too high - f*ck you, the NHS is failing - f*ck them. What are we going to do? Oh yeah, vote in Labour because Carol Vorderman tells us to. If Rejoin EU become the new party of power, much as I would oppose their Brexit stance, I would be prepared to give them a chance and if they got the economy under control they'd earn my respect for that. However, I can see certain Left facets going more apoplectic that they got elected than if Farage becomes the next PM - 'how dare the Left not vote for the Left which I want... that is sooo offensive!'
@alexhando8541
@alexhando8541 3 дні тому
Hence why I'm writing to my local MP (yeah I know nothing will probably happen) if there is no electoral reform enacted by the next government. We need proportional representation!
@user-bv5lc1nf5d
@user-bv5lc1nf5d 3 дні тому
@@alexhando8541 PR - useful but I think FPTP is here to stay. Most people want PR until you point out 'well that could mean giving Reform UK a platform'. Love them or loathe them, their vote is on the up and very few nuanced people would be prepared to say 'I may not like them, but I believe that they should be heard.' It's more like 'no, ban the horrible people who say horrible things I don't like.'
@alexhando8541
@alexhando8541 3 дні тому
@@user-bv5lc1nf5d proportional systems like STV would not prevent greater representation for radically left or right wing parties, but would still not allow them to getting in to power, as the system favours coalitions instead. Regardless of hypothetical scenarios, Reclaim, Reform and the like would remain fringe parties with only a handful of MPs despite the change in system. They certainly wouldn't be forming any governments, it would be a situation very like Germany at present, but certainly not Germany like in 1936 like a lot of people seem to worry about...
@MrChallacombe
@MrChallacombe 10 днів тому
Was great to see him Live
@PeaHaytch4
@PeaHaytch4 День тому
What does it matter who you vote for? Humour doesn't pick sides; it splits both left and right with laughter 💁‍♂️
@GregOrCreg
@GregOrCreg 10 днів тому
There are many people in the country who aren't hypocrites, like me. How about voting for people like me who honour their beliefs rather than yet another careerist hypocrite? It's time people were rewarded for integrity and honesty.
@BM-lb3xs
@BM-lb3xs 9 днів тому
Everybody is a hypocrite to some degree. Have some modesty, you are not special, you are fallible, as is everybody else. The sooner you and everyone else accepts this the better the world will become.
@cpuuk
@cpuuk 10 днів тому
He says what we are all thinking and want to yell out loud.
@GregOrCreg
@GregOrCreg 10 днів тому
Initially, I thought the "Havng a pop at Brexit and Tory voters is 'gross'" tag was another bit of satire, but listening to the interview in full, he's 100% right. I cringe at Hilary Clinton's "basket of deplorables" line. I wouldn't say that statement alone cost her the entire 2016 election, but it definitely didn't help. You don't win an election by attacking the electorate. You have to give them a reason to support you, and attacking and alienating them means you've lost a potential voter for life.
@Samuel-hd3cp
@Samuel-hd3cp 10 днів тому
What the Liberals don't understand is that Remain and Clinton both threw away winning positions because they completely failed to understand their opponents.
@simonphelon7221
@simonphelon7221 8 днів тому
The worst thing about Bill Cosby was the hypocrisy.
@slapshot0074
@slapshot0074 7 днів тому
Nice nod to norm macdonald.
@jeremypnet
@jeremypnet 2 дні тому
I dunno. I think sexual assault is pretty bad.
@stevedavidson666
@stevedavidson666 10 днів тому
I was over in London from South Africa for the last two weeks and finally able to see him in the flesh at the Duke of York theatre. He was ABSOLUTELY EFFING BRILLIANT!!! Thanks so much Tom for creating JP in the first place but then putting together a show which as @rrbh says below your rants are even ten times better than the ones we have here on UKposts. I think the whole audience raged along with every word.
@yehldyehld
@yehldyehld 3 дні тому
It's delusional to think Labour will be any better. They're equally bad but in different ways. Also, I appreciate Tom making the point that Brexit was mishandled. People keep blaming Brexit for our problems but it was the job of politicians to plan and manage Brexit properly but instead they spent years debating if we REALLY meant what we voted for, then there was debate about "oh it's not clear what Brexit means" when it was obvious what it meant. Then there were people insisting on repeating the referendum simply because they didn't like the results or they look at the vote % for each side and think because the numbers are close together, it's small numbers. Except, it was a whole million people difference which is quite a clear result. Sure, it's a small % of our overall population but we also had a great turnout for that referendum. I mean, tell me, if 1m people were murdered in the UK, would you say "nah it's a small number respectively so don't worry"? No.
@heftymoreganic4158
@heftymoreganic4158 День тому
I checked the numbers expecting to be able to come here and say "ah-ha, it was actually only 500k" or something equally as insufferable... It was actually 1.3 million difference between remain and leave which surprised me
@willtricks9432
@willtricks9432 10 днів тому
Johnathan Pie is "It'll be alright on the night" with a Machette in one hand and "Roger's Profanasaurus" in the other. Top content on any platform. Cheers
@jamesgravil9162
@jamesgravil9162 5 днів тому
"For twenty years I was an out-of-work actor." That's even longer than Ford Prefect. He was only out of work for fifteen years!
@sirperybLakeney
@sirperybLakeney 3 дні тому
Tom's great. One of the few interviews with a contemporary celebrity where you feel like they're genuine.
@skasteve6528
@skasteve6528 5 днів тому
Sadly, I think that if Labour win the next election, Tom will not suffer from a lack of material.
@danielhyman8390
@danielhyman8390 4 дні тому
The satire is great, but we don't just want a rant. The pathos of his back story, arguments with the line producer, the jeapordy of coming back to live, all bring the essential drama and differentiate JP from the herd because we understand who he is and why we care who it is that's telling us why we care❤
@azizaaziz7070
@azizaaziz7070 4 дні тому
He highlights the hypocrisy and surreal freak show of what is now called politics. Brilliant. I’m sure Labour will give him plenty of material.
@philkennedy8184
@philkennedy8184 4 дні тому
Don’t see the big deal , absolutely everything he says is 100% bang on and let’s face it with the muppets destroying the country he’s plenty of material , man’s a legend
@cinemaipswich4636
@cinemaipswich4636 10 днів тому
...what do news reporters do between turds... A wonderful turn of phrase. "Thinking while speaking" is wonderful when somebody says the truth while speaking out loud. Comedy, satire and irony are the comic's best friend.
@clickrick
@clickrick 10 днів тому
Ian Hislop has managed to satirise all sides, and for broadly the same failings as Pie does. I'll be surprised if Tom Walker doesn't make the same shift if (when?) we get a different government.
@Red_Crows
@Red_Crows 9 днів тому
Pie the character will have plenty to complain about when he realises the tories are still in power just wearing red 😂
@petekadenz9465
@petekadenz9465 10 днів тому
So very sensible and insightful.
@Samuel-hd3cp
@Samuel-hd3cp 10 днів тому
You're wrong about Starmer, Tom. He is incredibly authoritarian.He was DPP. He's even more Establishment than Sunak. You're right about old school lefties seeing the point of Brexit though.
@hdmartyh
@hdmartyh 8 днів тому
Love this guy. Its sad that things are so bad that his satire is just 100 truths at the moment.
@leeroy1986
@leeroy1986 10 днів тому
I generally thought Pie was a real-life mate of James O'brien lol.
@ToeRagFC
@ToeRagFC 7 днів тому
If its so important that Keir Starmer 'used to be a Human Rights Lawyer'... Then why does he support the genocide being committed in Gaza? The idea that Starmer is better for this reason is laughable... And not in a comedic way!
@TheVRSofa
@TheVRSofa 10 днів тому
legend
@kramer26
@kramer26 4 дні тому
As much as I like JP and despise the Tories, a Labour government is not the solution. If the UK is going to have any chance of survival then Reform is the only sensible option. Unfortunately, Tom seems to have conveniently forgotten that there are more than just two political parties in this country...
@cattysplat
@cattysplat 3 дні тому
It doesn't matter how bad the Tory government acts out, if the public believes the alternative options in Labour and Lib Dems are unelectable.
@TheWatchman1893
@TheWatchman1893 День тому
Pie is excellent, been keeping me entertained since day 1👌
@MartinandFreddie
@MartinandFreddie 5 днів тому
"The child of Partidge and Tucker"............. PERFECT! Thank you Tom!! Having seen Pie (Tom Walker) live, all i can say is "How the hell does he remember it all, and where does he get the energy from' Without doubt the best live performer, in any genre, I have ever seen, and i have seen Dave Allen, Led Zeppelin, Dara O'Briain and Pink Floyd to name but four!!
@harrymanback3475
@harrymanback3475 3 дні тому
Jonathan Pie for minister! Make Britain great again 😄👍
@peterjol
@peterjol 2 дні тому
Wouldn't it be fantastic to have leaders who are doing such good things for the world and society that we would be upset and offended by anyone making fun of them and what they are doing.
@mark271058
@mark271058 10 днів тому
Genius!❤
@lifesbutastumble
@lifesbutastumble 4 дні тому
I hope he does go after the left wing because we HAVE to satirize ourselves when we too go too far
@francesdoyle1508
@francesdoyle1508 3 дні тому
I've never heard Tom talking before and this is brilliant 👏🏼 ❤
@PassiveAgressive319
@PassiveAgressive319 10 днів тому
I loved his radio series on the BBC and his UKposts channel.
@Kit2Canada
@Kit2Canada День тому
Superb!
@richarddepledge960
@richarddepledge960 5 днів тому
Tom is brilliant. I just wish he would actually stand for parliament. He would get my vote. He talks sense just like the late great George Carlin did re America and the world. We need more people like Tom. He makes you laugh but also makes you think and realise and question what type of world we are all living in.
@smithy280663
@smithy280663 3 дні тому
If you ever get the chance to see him live, do it.......he's brilliant!
@Pablo668
@Pablo668 2 дні тому
I think the first clip I saw of Jonathan Pie was indeed him saying stop calling voters from the other side stupid. It doesn't help at all, and certainly doesn't win them over. Wise words I thought.
@TheOMT
@TheOMT 11 днів тому
Actually, this is the first time I've seen that is not his real name 😂😂😂
@mrsh810
@mrsh810 6 днів тому
Love all that you do, and agree with most of what you say
@neilburgess9652
@neilburgess9652 3 дні тому
perfection! Partridge wit and sardonic laughter at the idiocy Boris was part of and is now continued in uk politics. Love this and he got it just right at the right time.many times
@StewartSchiller
@StewartSchiller 3 дні тому
Having a pop at non-Tory voters is fine and dandy. Funny how that works.
@NapoleonicWargaming
@NapoleonicWargaming 20 годин тому
Example please
@eddiehitler9822
@eddiehitler9822 2 дні тому
I go for the rants but Pie cracks me up, too
@GregOrCreg
@GregOrCreg 10 днів тому
Is Jonathan Pie satire or a sage? Seems to me that he's right about most things, and, like me, justifiably angry.
@user-cu5gc4qz8p
@user-cu5gc4qz8p 10 днів тому
that is an excellent 1 second clip of Peter Capaldi :P
@geoffroberts1131
@geoffroberts1131 10 днів тому
It would be a grave mistake for anyone to try and silence British satire. I honestly think that would be the last straw for many who are on the edge right now! Lots of talk about revolution down my way. Not the working class. The middle class. Not because they want one. Because they fear there could be one.
@joebloggs396
@joebloggs396 9 днів тому
It's American media (his paymasters) trashing the entire UK.
@simrethdhingra4409
@simrethdhingra4409 7 днів тому
WHY DOES IT MATTER THAT SUNAK WAS A HEDGE-FUND MANAGER?
@experi-mentalproductions5358
@experi-mentalproductions5358 7 днів тому
Because most poor people don't like rich people telling them what to do...
@davidthomas8186
@davidthomas8186 4 дні тому
Because he and his like will never be in a position to be subject to the awful struggles that many of his fellow Britons suffer on a day to day basis as a result of his party's horrible attitude to the less fortunate in society.
@tirinoarim
@tirinoarim 10 днів тому
If Labour does get in, Starmer (much like Blair) seems to be much more right/new labour than labour of old so I think there's still going to be plenty of material (unfortunately).
@LoveProWrestling
@LoveProWrestling 10 днів тому
A month long honeymoon is probably three weeks longer than we will get.
@dannyhancock9330
@dannyhancock9330 10 днів тому
A Mullet in 2024!!!!! Get this interviewer to a Barber STAT!!
@MrBizteck
@MrBizteck 8 днів тому
Pie is the one political comedian act that my right wing pro Brexit friends actually like. ( yes I have them, if you dont/ cant then YOUR part of the problem)
@MrBizteck
@MrBizteck 8 днів тому
Ps Ive seen the show .... its brilliant.
@idavidmcclune
@idavidmcclune 6 днів тому
I'm not sure I'd really picked up on Pie's political ideology until this interview. I'd always seen him as ranting against any injustice or stupidity. The fact that it's currently more targeted against the Tories is just that Labour hasn't had the chance to mess it up for the past 14 years. I'm sure Pie will have just as much material to work with after the election no matter who wins.
@ChrisCM23
@ChrisCM23 7 днів тому
Johnathan Pie you are excellent
@vaughancapstick9961
@vaughancapstick9961 8 днів тому
We all love Tom ❤️
@RalphBrooker-gn9iv
@RalphBrooker-gn9iv 10 днів тому
OMG 😱 Jonathan Partridge-Tucker! 😅
@FreeSpeech1959
@FreeSpeech1959 8 годин тому
TV comedy is so woke and predictable over the last 20 years and more. I suppose actors are all drawn from one small segment of middle class society. TV needs to freshen it up with something genuinely risque. How about sending up the views of Guardian readers or the Green Party?
@EM-lz9kg
@EM-lz9kg 11 днів тому
The week we’re a Tory bullied £5 thousand to pay of cocaine dealers 😂
@tomfinney3416
@tomfinney3416 10 днів тому
@@iqunknown786 the post was in english mate ,perhaps you are unaware of what it refers to though
@taykitrleevitt4314
@taykitrleevitt4314 10 днів тому
​@@tomfinney3416He was commenting on punctuation and the misuse of it.
@colinmorris3526
@colinmorris3526 10 днів тому
@@taykitrleevitt4314 yeah there are three types of readers: those that can extrapolate what is meant regardless of punctuation, those that cannot and so require extra help from the other party and those that refuse to understand because they want to feel superior and have a little ego wank.
@pootincopes
@pootincopes 10 днів тому
​@@colinmorris3526definitely the latter in this case 😂
@pootincopes
@pootincopes 10 днів тому
@@iqunknown786 he's right though, I understood perfectly what the op meant.
@mcjeebus
@mcjeebus 10 днів тому
This isn't the end, this is the beginning.
@masterwatch
@masterwatch 10 днів тому
Jonathan is great 😂
@jamesmarsh4957
@jamesmarsh4957 9 днів тому
love Tom's accent , great interview , love Pie he says the things we all are thinking , brilliant
@mikerelf1362
@mikerelf1362 3 дні тому
What a great guy,
@ajn2370
@ajn2370 4 дні тому
There is definitely a degree of left wingers being bad at compromise. But this was also true of the right of the labour party. They were not content to compromise when Corbyn was leader. Some, like Alistair Campbell, didn't simply contest the leadership but campaigned against the party. What is maybe not understood is a common reason for many people to say that both parties are now the same is austerity. The whole potential for the government to actually deliver investment or public services is governed by the fiscal rules. Labour has now adopted the same fiscal rules. In that respect, they are the same. They may have different CVs, but a background in law won't pay for NHS staff or hospital beds.
@csatterley
@csatterley 7 днів тому
The interviewer makes me glad I had my youth in between the two times that mullets have been considered an acceptable hairstyle.
@avadayofffoyster
@avadayofffoyster День тому
Jonathan pie the truth sayer, maybe politicians should tune in.
@Ayjayy66
@Ayjayy66 5 днів тому
Pie is a god among politicians and speaks for the downtrodden masses
@dohlecarnett1866
@dohlecarnett1866 4 дні тому
I like this guy so much and loved the podcast too. But I don't agree with the take that you should go easy on Brexit voters. It would have not take that much to understand how stupid a decision it was.
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