£0.03 per kWh heater modification - Top facts & lies on diesel heaters - waste veg oil burn success

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Joshua De Lisle

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In this episode we modify the parking diesel heater to legally burn waste vegitable oil, we discus the facts and lies said about these heaters, fully test differnt fuels and settings as well as many other tips to get you to efficiently heat your space.
Additional notes:
Kerocene - 10.3kw per litre - £0.80 per litre (feb 2023)
Vegitable oil - 9.25kw per litre - must be filtered through to 10 microns
Mix ratio 33%-30% kerocene 66%-70% Vegitable oil - £0.24-26p per litre, less than £0.03 per KW
1688 settings menu - 1.2hz min, 4.0hz max (veg oil mix only, 5.5hz for kerocene), 1500rpm min, 5000rpm max, PF 6.
After 2m exhaust installation-
Exhuast output inside - 331 degrees celsious
Exhuast output outside - 92 degrees celsious
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@citizenkane2349
@citizenkane2349 6 місяців тому
What surprises me the most about this video is how many laws/regulations the UK government can implement to make citizens' lives harder.
@Henry-gj7mr
@Henry-gj7mr 5 місяців тому
It shouldn't be a surprise. The Gov. is full of users and abusers.
@wylinout2257
@wylinout2257 5 місяців тому
Rulers of people can do that
@ramblingman8992
@ramblingman8992 5 місяців тому
Dilute waste engine oil with 5% petrol and it becomes black diesel. This can be used in your heater.
@cicero2
@cicero2 5 місяців тому
Our corrupt leaders are run by the big power companies and big pharma, so making things difficult for Joe Citizen is no surprise.
@matthewyabsley
@matthewyabsley 5 місяців тому
Or how many laws and regulations protect me from you. ;-)
@blief8850
@blief8850 Рік тому
The water in your exhaust is probably not from a leak in the line, but from condensing water of the exhaust fumes. Burning hydrocarbons creates CO2 and H20. Cooling the exhaust in the bucket condenses the water vapours from the exhaust.
@Baddad36
@Baddad36 Рік тому
That is exactly what it is.
@Electronics-Rocks
@Electronics-Rocks Рік тому
Yes I made it a point to have my exhaust downhill. Also the condensate is acidic and a reason why exhausts on your car rusts
@Electronics-Rocks
@Electronics-Rocks Рік тому
I am using a household radiator with the output at the bottom to take the condensate out which can be surprising.
@joshuadelisle
@joshuadelisle Рік тому
Very good point. Cheers J
@MartialArtUK
@MartialArtUK Рік тому
Put a condensate trap and pipe from an oil boiler on it 👍
@jlr3636
@jlr3636 Рік тому
“They don’t teach you nothing practical “ very true statement, mainly in today’s system. My first year in high school 1964 (USA) I took a class, divided into 4 sections, drafting or mechanical drawing, electronic where we did projects using surplus analog phone switches, sheet metal fabrication, and metal working. To this day it was probably the most impactful class I ever took.
@kuldilakh7106
@kuldilakh7106 10 місяців тому
I just took things apart out of Curiosity, even if I ruined part of their construction. However, my father forgave me as the item or appliance was already malfunctioning and I could always blame the age or general deterioration through use that was the failure. But I got better and better at it and now regarded a genius. So, Rock’n’RoLL is ere to Stay.!
@johnwilson6732
@johnwilson6732 6 місяців тому
just a comment. They obviously were not successful teaching you about double negatives in you English classes. They don't (do not) nothing practical, should be they do not teach you anything practical... For the rest subject matter in class is only valuable to you if you are interested, otherwise as you say they were not practical. Others may have found them practical for their needs
@dutch2756
@dutch2756 2 місяці тому
@@johnwilson6732 thank god practical things are more important as language.
@feaksy
@feaksy 13 днів тому
I also did metalwork, tech drawing, art and woodwork at high school in Australia in the 70s and became a carpenter. They also taught me to think for myself and use critical thinking, Not like the indoctrinated kids these days.
@kevinfox3875
@kevinfox3875 8 місяців тому
PS The viscosity of Diesel is 35 Redwood, Kerosene is 28, but the waste oil is likely to be c. 200 or so. If you added a tiny 5W 12v bulb to preheat the waste oil thereby lowering its viscosity, you most likely would eliminate the unburnt fuel (smoke) withiut having to add the Kerosene to your waste oil. Keep up the good work
@bradleysr
@bradleysr 8 місяців тому
Why not preheat it with exhaust heat?
@dannywilliams6643
@dannywilliams6643 8 місяців тому
​@@bradleysrbrilliant
@simonmasters3295
@simonmasters3295 8 місяців тому
​@@dannywilliams6643think about how it would start
@dougle03
@dougle03 8 місяців тому
@@simonmasters3295 Smokey to start, then it'd clean right up.
@supersportimpalass
@supersportimpalass 7 місяців тому
@@dougle03most guys that burn waste oil in their diesel trucks switch back to regular diesel before shutting the engine off. This makes cold starts much easier.
@petercordingley927
@petercordingley927 5 місяців тому
Just a suggestion if you used a metal tool box or old ammunition metal box, dip the exhaust pipe in then fill with kiln dried sand you will create a heat sand bank which will retain all the exhaust heat up to temperatures in excess over 1200 centigrade far higher than water.
@brianblack138
@brianblack138 8 місяців тому
I love it. In the early 2000s I was running my truck (a Chevy 6.5L turbo diesel) on waste vegetable oil. I realized I spent so much time devising more efficient ways to collect and burn it that I probably wasn’t saving much money.
@jamesajanda
@jamesajanda 3 місяці тому
I love the content on this channel!!!! I bought one of these heaters a few years ago and still haven't unboxed it. Believe it or not... I was a Captain in the U.S. Army back in the mid 2000's and I was burning used vegetable oil in my 2500 Dodge Diesel truck!! I would gather the used veg oil from the dining facilities on post and take it home and strain it through a window screen into a 30 gallon trash can. Then I had two pumps that would pull the oil from the bottom of the trash can at the petcock. The pumps would run the oil through two different size micron filters two get the particulate down to 5 micron. Then straight into the fuel tank on the truck. Before the oil leaving the trash can I had to include 10% gasoline, 1 qt of diesel clean, and about an once of a special additive that I bought from a dealer here on youtube. It worked pretty well but you had to leave 1/3 tank of diesel in the truck or you would clog up your fuel filters on the engine. Anyway, it worked until diesel prices dropped after Hurricane Katrina. What I found interesting was that during this time Diesel prices were near $5.00 a gallon but I would fill up on Kerosene at the pump, when I could find it, for about $1.67 a gallon. Kerosene is actually what is considered #1 diesel, a cleaner version of diesel.
@user-lo2gl2xx2t
@user-lo2gl2xx2t Місяць тому
Why did you put the C0 detector on the floor around 21mins then start talking about smells 😂
@aarondavis8433
@aarondavis8433 8 місяців тому
you should run the exhaust tubing through a bucket of sand. the sand will heat up preventing exhaust condensation as well as trapping more heat for longer radiant heat exchange.
@ghostwhite1648
@ghostwhite1648 6 місяців тому
throw a bottle of water in that sand, take a pipe angled downward into a cold sand with another bottle to distill water at the same time
@michellelaclair
@michellelaclair 7 днів тому
is that similar to a rocket mass heater design / idea?
@stalbertjocelyn
@stalbertjocelyn Рік тому
Make sure your pump is on a 30deg angle to get rid of air bubbles or you will kill it. The air will accumulate and the plunger will wear the inner wall.
@Fosgen
@Fosgen Рік тому
Route exhaust through through big old steel tank, then fill with sand, and close it, you created heat battery. After cycle end, lets say 10 hours of haeting air, heat battery will be hot and should give infrared heat out for next hours, therefore your garage could still be much warmer inside than outside in the early morning, without using a single drop of fuel extra.
@chrisabraham8793
@chrisabraham8793 Рік тому
Very good idea.
@SynKronos
@SynKronos Рік тому
25mm gravel or greater through a perforated pipe perhaps but sand. Nope. You'll suffocate combustio, coking up the burn chamber and worse as the sand gets wet it will clog further.
@chrisabraham8793
@chrisabraham8793 Рік тому
@@SynKronos I don't think the exhaust pipe was ment to vent into the sand but coiled in the bucket of sand and vented back out like the bucket of water. Just heats the sand.
@SynKronos
@SynKronos Рік тому
@@chrisabraham8793 Ah, that makes sense. But it would have to come out of the bottom of the bucket or water would fill the exhaust
@chrisabraham8793
@chrisabraham8793 Рік тому
@@SynKronos I suppose with a bit of fire clay at the bottom of the bucket surrounding the pipe would stop the sand falling out. I am quite surprised that the amount of heat generated by the exhaust hasn't evaporated the moisture right at the very end.
@wizardwillbonner
@wizardwillbonner 4 місяці тому
As a kid growing up in the 50s I can remember my stepdad telling us about having an extra tank on their car filled with old motor oil/diesel mix, with a line wrapped around the exhaust to a valve on the fuel line. They'd start as normal and after running for a while, would switch over to the mix and turn off the ignition. Just before their destination turn ignition on and mix off, thus allowing them to shut down normally. He said his car was an old jalopy, so I'm assuming it was a model "A"!
@eyeorewolf
@eyeorewolf 6 місяців тому
I like the way you used the exhaust run inside to maximize efficiency. I will probably do the same but put a slight downward slope on the exhaust pipe to allow any condensate to run out. I may even duct a small 12V fan behind the pipe to get a bit of a forced air effect off the exhaust pipe. I plan to use a battery with solar to run the system regardless how cheap using a power supply appears to be, I like the idea of the system being 100% off grid in the event of a power failure. I have a lot to do in preparation for my 9M x 12M pole barn before this system would provide any real benefit. Insulation is my first step and I will probably require two for these units on opposing walls. Thank you for taking the time to make this video. Very informative.
@MrPINKFL0YD
@MrPINKFL0YD Рік тому
Why they don't want us to have cheaper heating is immoral especially when people like me have not had any heating this winter, when British gas made record profits
@chrisgibson2328
@chrisgibson2328 Рік тому
It's nothing to do with climate control but is about control. It is about making things more uncomfortable/expensive. Its about creating fear and despair. They are evil and greedy.
@neil2945
@neil2945 Рік тому
I live in Michigan Here in the State it's the same thing and it all comes down to one word "control" and my heart goes out to you and yours that you make it through the winter
@joshuadelisle
@joshuadelisle Рік тому
I nearly ranted about that. Had to hold back. Cheers J
@MrPINKFL0YD
@MrPINKFL0YD Рік тому
@@chrisgibson2328 agreed making money
@onkarfreshie3127
@onkarfreshie3127 7 місяців тому
GREED CRISIS not a living crisis. Governments that should be protecting the public, but looking the other way, to suit their employers. The energy companies & Banks.
@mmac4047
@mmac4047 Рік тому
Great job, I taught bio-diesel at the local college, and drove coast to coast across the United States, Labor Day weekend (5 Days) in 2002 in A 2002 VW Beetle with 600 Miles at the start making 3036 miles west to east astoria oregon to Ocean city MD and of course back. I did similar experimenting and refining. Using a SS mesh filter, then two diesel filters I would ultra filter the waste oil from a chip (potato - thin slice). The last filter in the chain was a water block because I would store it and the oil is hydroscopic so when it cools down ( like when the temperature in the room cools at night) it actually draws moisture out of the air (oregon Pacific Northwest) it would settle on the bottom. I still have the car more than 240,000 Miles still run biodiesel ( available at the pump called B15) I have two other Vw’s with diesel engines 2006, 2014 and a gmc 6.5 Lt Turbo diesel 4x4 truck. Your doing it nearly exactly the same and never had any problems and change my car/truck fuel filters per mfg schedule, I would open the filter car fuel filters never found anything big or a lot ( no rust no contaminates) I had a lot of people tell me all kinds of things but never had any issues. When freezing temps expected just increased the diesel ratio to 50/50 then when it warmed back I would go. I maintain all the vehicles still on original glow plugs and injectors and high pressure pumps. But its likely how I drive, i am on the original clutch and the brake pads on the front were changed just because they were 18 years old, there was still more than half the available wear left. Enjoy the adventure. Mike
@jrperrotta
@jrperrotta 6 місяців тому
Pay attention to the exhaust pipe outlet and install the 'H' design vent cap that creates near zero back draft pressure as wind can create exhaust back pressure into the burner. The outside wind pressure can easily defeat the pressurized exhaust
@juiceofsapho
@juiceofsapho 5 місяців тому
Please use the appropriate unit for electrical energy, it is kWh (1kWh = 1kW * 1h) "kilowatt-hour" . The kW is the unit for power (potential to do work over time) so that multiplied with time gives energy or work. Base unit for energy is joule (1joule = 1W * 1sec) which is 1/3600000 kWh, so it is a very small amount of energy 😊 Very interesting subject btw!
@torbjrnjohansen-skavdal7802
@torbjrnjohansen-skavdal7802 4 місяці тому
No need to add pedantry, as he's talking about both electrical energy, thermal energy and potential energy. Also, this isn't Physics class, but more of a Public Service Announcement to help you loosen the gov't grip around your wallet...
@flexairz
@flexairz 4 місяці тому
@@torbjrnjohansen-skavdal7802 Nope. If you explain something you should use the correct terms so we are all on the same page.
@mothMagnets
@mothMagnets 4 місяці тому
@@flexairz Yeah, it hurt my head every time he said kilowatt
@sgardner
@sgardner Рік тому
You could always use your exhaust to heat a sand battery. Thank you for your excellent videos.
@kd2239
@kd2239 Рік тому
4:20 Just to note, energy is not charged per kW (kilowatt), but per kWh (kilowatt hour). It can get confusing when the wrong units are used. Thanks. Great video.
@benjurqunov
@benjurqunov Рік тому
Agreed !! Too many people don't know or care to use correct basic engineering expressions. Sadly it puts anything else in their program in question of accuracy.
@pyramidsinegypt
@pyramidsinegypt Рік тому
@@benjurqunov So if you happen to misspell a word in an email I'm to question the correctness of everything else you wrote? If you ever misspeak I'm to ignore everything else you said? (not to mention that a) it's not an 'engineering expression' and b) only electricity is charged per kilowatt hour and from all else in this video you can still make your own calculations).
@mcg6762
@mcg6762 Рік тому
@@pyramidsinegypt It's not about typos. It's about using the wrong units in a very confusing way which leads to misunderstandings. Energy and power are not the same thing. I agree that if someone is doing experiments and using the wrong units when talking about it we should question if that person knows what he/she is doing.
@fredflintstone1428
@fredflintstone1428 Рік тому
@@mcg6762 What was it specifically that he got wrong? If something consumes 1kW of electricity (runs at 4A @250V), and it is runs for an hour, doesn't it consume 1kWh of electricity?
@mcg6762
@mcg6762 Рік тому
@@fredflintstone1428He was saying and displaying kW instead of kWh in several places in the video.
@renaissanceman8564
@renaissanceman8564 6 місяців тому
I see someone purposely building one to fit into a fireplace for homes built prior to 1980’s . I bought one for my Macgregor M and use in the shop . I ended up running an exhaust pipe through the wall then up a down pipe from my gutter to get the exhaust up to roof height of my house so not to suck it back into the garage or annoy my neighbors. My point is these are amazingly cheap to run so trying to extract every btu seems like rubbing two pennies together. Clean burning equals efficiency so if you try to burn shit it will plug up and not burn clean or just fail completely.Your exhaust pipe is the most important bit for keeping it clean burning and Avoiding CARBON MONOXIDE! These heaters come with a small silencer. It is not air/exhaust tight at all and does act as a condensation trap which is good but never inside where you are breathing the same air. So if you buy one of these you must have a carbon monoxide detector. I love mine but also got a small electrical heater that burns 50 to 70 amps @ 12 volts with a tiny fan to maintain a nice temperature after heating with the diesel . Ok cheers and prayers for peace on earth !
@traFREAK
@traFREAK 6 місяців тому
I love this, never studied engineering myself but was always very interested in it. Cool projects like these that will save you some money in the end and teach you a lot are great and i cant wait to try this myself. Thanks Joshua!
@agentwhitedog1
@agentwhitedog1 Рік тому
Joshua: Units of energy are measured in kilowatt-hours, not kilowatts. A kilowatt is a measure of power.
@leealangrothe5552
@leealangrothe5552 10 місяців тому
Great Tenacity
@03056932
@03056932 6 місяців тому
We all know what he meant. Why is his comments full of people flexing for their own gratification? Not enough interest in our hobbies from family members?
@arjanl.2168
@arjanl.2168 6 місяців тому
Units of energy are measured in (Kilo)watts, not (Kilo)watt-hours. (Kilo)watt-hours is the sum of total (Kilo)watts, used in one hour. So Yosh (and almost the entire world) is right by mentioning capacity in Kilowatts.
@Conservator.
@Conservator. 6 місяців тому
@@arjanl.2168you are mixing up power and (the amount of) energy. Energy is measured in Joule or calories, Nm or kWh Lookup the Wikipedia page for units of energy and check for yourself.
@TheComputec
@TheComputec 4 місяці тому
@agentwhitedog1 Close.. but wrong... Kilowatts is the energy it uses/provides. Kilowatt hours is a method for calculating its power consumption over time that can be expressed as a cost
@ollypolly18
@ollypolly18 Рік тому
brilliant. i firstly did this to my boat about 4 years ago. not so good in choppy sea but still worked good. when the gas price went up i did the same sort of set up as you. I have one blowing upstairs and one down and it actually keeps my old 200 year stone hose around 20c and so very cheap to run. i did get a free 55 gallon drum of paraffin that im using and expecting to last a few years. with two multi fuel burners two diesel heaters solar panels that iv set up myself running a 3kw grid tie inverter and my esta breeze i1500 turbine i pay not a lot to the utility ripoff gangsters. iv not worked out the cost but its not a lot
@HalfGodHalfBeast
@HalfGodHalfBeast 7 місяців тому
adding a couple of drops of acetone to each litre of used veg oil lowers the viscosity quite considerably - this will help with the filtering and the flow rate in the heater
@Outside-In.
@Outside-In. 5 місяців тому
I have one of these for emergency use, but haven't had the need to use it yet, but watching videos from actual users, helps me when I need to set it up. Thanks - Great Job 👍
@TheBlackmunch
@TheBlackmunch Рік тому
That is the second most informative video I have ever seen on practical heating, both of them yours. Extremely well done, and presented. Thank you for all of the information 👍🏼
@joshuadelisle
@joshuadelisle Рік тому
Thank you so much, I'm really glad it helps. Cheers J
@tomad4051
@tomad4051 Рік тому
YES, to EVERYTHING SAID, What? I am shouting? Damn Straight, I AM !!! ❤❤❤❤❤❤👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼
@joshuadelisle
@joshuadelisle Рік тому
@@tomad4051 you're very kind. Cheers J
@bryancondrey6457
@bryancondrey6457 6 місяців тому
Idea: your waste heat exhaust could be modified by using a partially water filled rain gutter deep enough to encompass the exhaust tube but the tube needs to run downhill to allow any condensation accumulating a place to drain and run outside. In the US, that usually means 0.25 inches per foot drop. Next idea: use copper water pipe so you can braze or solder the fittings for a leak free path. The inside of the copper is smooth so accumulating dirty condensation is minimal and it leaves quickly. The biggest downside I see is keeping the water filled gutter from freezing if your climate gets that cool.
@GoingtoHecq
@GoingtoHecq 3 місяці тому
It would take expensive silver solder to be safe from being melted by the exhaust. If he just uses one large coil it would take very few solder joints.
@reasoningtruth
@reasoningtruth Місяць тому
Great job at saving all of us with ears and a brain a ton of time and money! Thank you immensely! (I've been working on a DIY version for a few years. This heater with YOUR modification is a true front of the front-runners). 5 thumbs up easy!👍👍👍👍👍
@joshuadelisle
@joshuadelisle Місяць тому
Thank you so much. Cheers J
@reasoningtruth
@reasoningtruth Місяць тому
@@joshuadelisle ACTUALLY, I did nothing to deserve any recognition, it's ALL on YOU! Well, your parents to a degree also I suppose. I have done all I could to support your caliber of intellect by becoming one of your many subscribers and giving you a thumbs up. And I'll be back many times, I can already see, while I did a quick scan through your channel. I can see you are my kind of reasoner!
@joshuadelisle
@joshuadelisle Місяць тому
You're very kind. Thank you. Cheers J
@lemoinexavier
@lemoinexavier 4 місяці тому
I'm 52 now and just recovered the new Mc. Giver! Thank you for your vids!
@lloydevans2900
@lloydevans2900 Рік тому
I had the same problem running mine on vegetable oil - I was using fresh sunflower oil rather than waste oil, and the exhaust was spitting out unburned fuel and a lot of smoke. It also stopped working after a few days, since there was so much soot deposits in the exhaust pipe that it partially blocked up. I solved the problem by mixing the vegetable oil about 50:50 with white spirit (I had a cheap supply of that), which thins it out nicely. When it comes to filtering your waste vegetable oil, I would recommend doing it in stages: Pass it through a wire mesh first (an old kitchen sieve would do the trick), which would take out any large-ish chunks of old batter or chip fragments. Then through a finer mesh, such as "OOO" grade steel wool. Finally through a paper or fabric filter, either coffee filters or a couple of layers of old tea towel. The first two stages should be fairly quick, and the bits they take out should mean the final stage doesn't clog up so much, so that should be quicker too. Another filtering tip: If you are going to mix your waste vegetable oil with some kerosene or diesel (or white spirit) anyway, you might as well mix this in before filtering it. This does mean a greater volume going through the filter of course, but the lower viscosity should speed up the filtering, so on balance it could well be faster overall.
@keithandrew3079
@keithandrew3079 11 місяців тому
Great advice cheers
@godzillas6301
@godzillas6301 6 місяців тому
Great advice . For filtering i used a fine sieve . No idea what its original intention was to be but it did the job for me without issue . I then would simply double up kitchen roll in a funnel and have a tap on the 25 litre tub filled with oil to regulate flow . Top tub drips into the funnel which has another tub bellow it to play catch ..... get it to drip and ignore for a day or 2 . I will fess i never though of thinning it out with paraffin diesel or white spirit .... ill remember that for next time .
@steverpcb
@steverpcb 6 місяців тому
Use rape seed oil instead as it can be added to the fuel of pre common rail diesel engines upto 40% with no issues.
@lloydevans2900
@lloydevans2900 6 місяців тому
@@steverpcbThat might be ok for a diesel engine because they inject the fuel into pre-heated compressed air, burning the metered spray of fuel all in one go. Diesel air heaters burn fuel with a continuous flame in air at ambient pressure, so are quite different. Both the viscosity and boiling point have to be low enough for the fuel spray to adequately vaporise, in order for complete combustion. Otherwise you get a lot of soot production which blocks up the exhaust outlet, and in the worst case you get ignition failure and unburned fuel spraying out of the exhaust. Also, the issue with diesel cars and vegetable oils isn't so much the engine itself - the first diesel engines to be designed actually burned peanut oil, and were only later on used with petroleum oils. The vegetable oil causes problems for the rubber gaskets in the fuel system, causing them to swell or even disintegrate. If you go through the fuel lines and injectors, replacing any rubber gaskets with viton (perfluoroelastomer) gaskets, it should be able to burn neat vegetable oil of any type without any problems at all.
@steverpcb
@steverpcb 6 місяців тому
@@lloydevans2900 Sunflower oil is known to coke up diesel engines badly as do many other oils. Another issue with veg oils is that some set solid and need warming to be able to pump them.
@marcbolducrealestate
@marcbolducrealestate 4 місяці тому
I just want to say, this video is excellently well done! it’s understandable but takes into account all of the variables and delivered as if we’re solving a mystery. A+ content right here! Sincerely thank you for the video!
@joshuadelisle
@joshuadelisle 4 місяці тому
Thank you so much. Cheers J
@utha5034
@utha5034 8 місяців тому
Thank you for referencing the cost of electricity to run this. Being thorough is greatly appreciated.
@geoffthomas8528
@geoffthomas8528 3 місяці тому
Really informative video. I bought an 8kw and installed it in my bungalow in Spain. However I decided to recycle the hot air output back into the air intake. The effects were impressive, as it halved the time it took to heat the bungalow. In addition, the heaters remote temp sensor reduced the heaters pump speed as the room got warmer. The heater was mounted outside.
@charlesdonaldson962
@charlesdonaldson962 Рік тому
Okay here's one. When you increase the length of the exhaust beyond the maximum that stated by the manufacturer after their testing, he would have to increase your inner diameter size by 1 to go a certain distance further or to go through more fittings elbows whatever. For water flow there calculators on everything every type of fitting etc I'm sure there is four exhaust as well and I'm also sure bever doesn't say what the maximum is for that thing or have much of installation instructions. Thanks for giving me something good to look at!
@stumccabe
@stumccabe 10 місяців тому
Just a comment on units. The scientific unit of energy is the Joule (J). Power is the rate at which energy is produced or provided, that is Joules per second; 1 Joule per second we call a Watt (W). A kilowatt (kW) is 1000 Watts. Note Watts and kilowatts are units of power, not energy. Power x Time = Energy. So the commonly used unit of energy (apart from the Joule) is the kilowatt hour (kWh). Electrical energy is sold in kilowatt hours, not kilowatts!
@annychannie
@annychannie 8 місяців тому
Thank you, this video has been very helpful. I saw your last video and was going to mention the point about companies that burn the waste oil, but you covered it in this one. It's been very informative.
@thehighwayman78
@thehighwayman78 Рік тому
Nice video, great experiment! I love my car's Webasto. So nice to program a starting time and go sit in a warm and defrosted car in the morning when it's -20 outside, and it's so much better for the engine. It runs off of my petrol tank, my car is a CNG/Petrol hybrid, and I've wondered why it doesn't use CNG instead of petrol. I guess there is a reason for it.
@DavidMamanakis
@DavidMamanakis 8 місяців тому
I appreciate your diligence in your testing of these units... We tried one of them with actual automotive waste oil. I don't recommend it. It almost ruined one of our units. We even tried cutting it with red diesel (which we can still use, over here)... I haven't tried waste cooking oil, it might be worth looking at. Caster oil is used, similar to kerosene, and might burn nicely, or could be cut with kerosene or diesel... I don't know the cost per liter, but it might save a little money. I have 4 of these units, 3 are currently working (the 4th is the one we tried with automotive waste oil)... I have one for when I'm out camping (a portable unit, similar to yours) and one installed in my shed. I had considered running a radiator-type system to trap more heat in the shed, but haven't actually built it yet. I was considering using copper tubing and a small fan. My heater runs off a battery and is supported by a 200w 24v solar panel. I plan to place a second solar panel to increase the amps for recharging my battery system (about 100ah SLA battery pack, made with used BackUPS batteries)... Thanks again for the video, I learned a few things!
@billjohnston9451
@billjohnston9451 3 місяці тому
The heat exchanger with the bucket of water is a fabulous idea. Thanks for your videos. As my British friends used to say. Cheers Mate
@whirlybird996
@whirlybird996 5 місяців тому
Thanks Joshua for taking the time to do this review, it was very helpful for my installation. Just a note to help anyone, I experience a rancid plastic like burning smell and I almost sent it back. Taking it apart it appears the manufacturer fitted a rubber anti-vibration pad where the exhaust comes out and this had charred. Doesn't look like its necessary in my application so I just removed it, problem sorted. I think ebay sell silicone replacements but they are quite expensive.
@joshuadelisle
@joshuadelisle 5 місяців тому
Well done. I've got a new video coming shortly. Cheers J
@diepurpledino
@diepurpledino 11 місяців тому
Here's a thought - for particulate emission detection, use a green laser pointer. Does a great job of illuminating otherwise invisible particles. Tried it during California wildfires a couple years ago - it was like having a mile-long lightsaber.
@joshuadelisle
@joshuadelisle 11 місяців тому
Good idea. Thank you. Cheers J
@jd01665
@jd01665 5 місяців тому
@@joshuadelisle There are meters that measure the AQI. The combine all the particulates and also things like HCHO, TVOCs, etc. Burning anything is going to affect air quality. So probably need an air purifier unless you prefer using your lungs to filter the stuff produced by the combustion.
@joshuadelisle
@joshuadelisle 5 місяців тому
@@jd01665 I've got one. Video coming shortly. AQI reads excellent from 1m away. Cheers J
@maccacoffee
@maccacoffee 9 місяців тому
Hi Josh. I think you should put a right angle mounting bracket on your fuel change over valve so that the drain retainer plug on the bottom of the unit can be orientated correctly,,,,,,,, it does act as a sedimentor/separator and on lawn mowers or motor bikes when the cup at the bottom is removed you will find water or fine sediment in there especially if you are careless with your fuel quality ,DON'T ASK ME HOW i KNOW. as a qualified mechanic I have had lots of these off and rarely find no sediment or water, because of yours mounted on the side any sediment/water will go into one or the other of your fuel supply lines ( eg, diesel or kero. ) I appreciate you are more carefull. and I appreciate your channel keep up the good work. col.
@jimbo748
@jimbo748 4 місяці тому
These have been used for cab heaters in lorry’s for decades, fitted one out of a lorry in a mate’s boat and worked really good
@WH4TH3F0X
@WH4TH3F0X 4 місяці тому
I'm here just for the updated version due to comments.. subscribed...because of that ❤
@stevee8698
@stevee8698 Рік тому
I wanted to put one of these in my old caravan, but I wanted one that's not in a carry case. I was thinking of plumbing the exhaust downhill through copper pipe, through from the top of a large radiator, then out from the bottom so that water can't build up inside. Really enjoyed this video.
@petercroft9895
@petercroft9895 Рік тому
The uncased versions are more common, and are intended for use in caravans and motorhomes. I put a 3kW one in a small bus conversion, it's an awesome piece of kit, 0C outside to 20C inside in about 15 minutes. Once it's up to temperature the fan slows right down and the pump becomes the noisiest thing.
@ab_ab_c
@ab_ab_c Рік тому
You did things almost exactly as I would have done them to arrive at your conclusion! Very well done! All you need to do now is put a sealed water cylinder around your exhaust tube to extract the rest of your exhausted heat, rather than allowing it to escape outside. Keep up the excellent work! Thanks for sharing!
@trebnik817
@trebnik817 5 місяців тому
I only just came across your channel. Superb. Your ideas and innovations are explained so lucidly. Well done. Keep it going.
@joshuadelisle
@joshuadelisle 5 місяців тому
Thank you so much. Cheers J
@beastmode2990
@beastmode2990 11 місяців тому
I have something similar but i make my exhaust with copper pipes for plumbering and i am going to build a small container for the water connected to a pump to see if i can make it work as a boiler for a small bathroom you sir gave me a nice idea will keep you notified of my success or failure of the structure also thanks for the tips on fuel i will definitely buy one of these
@purelife9000
@purelife9000 Рік тому
I immediately bought the 8kw version on your recommendation and I am looking forward to using it. Keep up the supply of great content, sir!
@joshuadelisle
@joshuadelisle Рік тому
Well done. Great investment in my opinion. All the very best. Cheers J
@RN-SM-SSBN04
@RN-SM-SSBN04 Рік тому
there is no 8kw. they say it is but its only a 5kw. ukposts.info/have/v-deo/aJ9kbI6CqYqDzH0.html it is all explained in that vid link
@SynKronos
@SynKronos Рік тому
No offence to the video creator but there are quite a few issues here. So be careful. This video is not accurate. And as another has stated the maximum output of an 8kw is around 5 in the real world, including exhaust recycling. I would also factor in for solar charging personally. Making vids currently on the subject. I am a retired experimental physicist/ engineer if that helps.
@tommay2561
@tommay2561 Рік тому
8kw ? or output 5kw.... unless quality. cheap 1s max 4\5 if lucky advis. gimick : see specification / build
@michaelhannon2452
@michaelhannon2452 5 місяців тому
Brilliant well made video with everything you need to know. As a heat source it's fantastic and cheap running in comparison to a kerosene heat blower for a workshop and you can still hear yourself when talking with this system. Very interesting topics we'll worth subscribing, cheers for all the information 👍
@joshuadelisle
@joshuadelisle 5 місяців тому
Thank you so much. I'm currently working on another video of diesel heater with subscriber suggestions and mods. Cheers J
@leemillington7164
@leemillington7164 3 місяці тому
Great video Mandy. Congratulations on passing your qualifications 😎
@boriskarloff6356
@boriskarloff6356 6 місяців тому
Fascinating, I thoroughly enjoy your videos Josh. Thanks heaps buddy.
@silicon.alchemist
@silicon.alchemist 9 місяців тому
How about a coaxial heat exchanger? Run the exhaust tube inside a larger metal tube, which is used as the air intake (or at least part of it). This would mean that the incoming air is preheated which should improve efficiency. It could also be used to bring fresh air in from outside which would give the building a slight positive pressure.
@LUPIPUPI1
@LUPIPUPI1 8 місяців тому
I think cold air provides a better mixture. When your engine is forced with hot air, it ends up burning more fuel to compensate for the lack of density. Cold air intakes provide an air-fuel mixture that is efficiently burned and used less fuel overall
@sierraecho884
@sierraecho884 8 місяців тому
Is this true ? I don´t thing hotter air improves efficiency I think it is the other way around.
@shaggyrandy1264
@shaggyrandy1264 8 місяців тому
Foundries like preheated intake air.
@sierraecho884
@sierraecho884 8 місяців тому
Hot air in motor vehicles decreases the efficiency, because hot air is less dense so there is less oxygen per given volume.@@shaggyrandy1264
@dougle03
@dougle03 8 місяців тому
@@LUPIPUPI1 I think he meant the internal air intake, not the combustion intake.
@robinspratt6057
@robinspratt6057 5 місяців тому
These heaters are so forgiving of their fuel. I have been running a 50:50 mix of waste veg oil and kerosene in mine for the last year. It starts and runs with no issues even in cold temperatures! Does away with the need for two tanks and the change over but as half of my fuel is free the running cost is halved! Yet to open the burner to decode it so I can’t comment on soot but the point is it’s running without any hiccups ☺️
@fradaja
@fradaja 3 місяці тому
Fantastic , love your clarity of thought , and humour
@gerrys6265
@gerrys6265 6 місяців тому
Thanks. Great Video and testing. I burn Waste Veggie in my car and boat engines after letting it settle for a few weeks. Then I filter it through 5 micron bag filters. These bag filters are about 10 dollars in Canada. They are about 17 mm in diameter and 600 mm long. The oil goest through them pretty quickly. I just do it by gravity and a barrel of oil takes about an hour. I wash them with soap and hot water after every couple barrels. If the oil is particularly dirty from the restaurant or has a lot of bits in it, I put a a 400 mesh filter 'bag' inside the 5 micron filter bag and wash that as necessary. Works great, but you do have to let the oil settle for a few weeks first or it will plug up the filter bags pretty quickly - depending on how heavily used the oil is from the restaurant.
@ModernSurvivalists
@ModernSurvivalists Рік тому
Excellent video!! Spent many years experimenting with WVO (Waste Vegetable Oil) for fueling diesel engines. I see a lot of parallels with this. For a diesel engine we achieved clean and efficient combustion by preheating the input oil to about 160F (71C). At this temperature the WVO thins out to a viscosity very close to diesel and atomizes much better. We did this by using waste heat from the engine with a fluid-to-fluid heat exchanger - engine coolant one side and WVO input line on the other. We also used a startup and shut down phase on regular fuel just like you already are and would only switchover to WVO once the engine was warmed up with the 160F preheat temp reached. You don't have engine coolant to use for preheat in your case, but you do have the exhaust heat. We experimented with that and found it to be too harsh / hot to use directly in a heat exchanger with the oil - it would polymerize and plug up after a while. But since you plan to already make a hot water heater with the exhaust, you could very easily use your hot water output as an input to preheat your oil input to the burner! This video is re-sparking my interest and I may have to add some similar experiments to my channel!
@uploadsnstuff8902
@uploadsnstuff8902 Рік тому
So would it'd be possible to use a little water pump in a close circuit that runs around the exhaust and into the fuel tank to heat it a bit? It should be linked to a temp sensor that somehow shuts the line on and off depending on the temperature of the fuel and the water so it doesn't boil obviously.
@ModernSurvivalists
@ModernSurvivalists Рік тому
@@uploadsnstuff8902 Yes I think that would work. I'd definitely include a high pressure relief value incase of steam buildup - just like the old boiler systems used. A pump may not even be necessary as it might be possible to thermo syphon a loop like a drip coffee machine.
@nirodper
@nirodper 9 місяців тому
The heated air (not the exhaust) would work great as it's a much lower temperature, just wrap a small copper tube coil and put it inside the ducting
@grahambell2322
@grahambell2322 8 місяців тому
I can't see the point of having a thin, solid skin hose on the input to the pump. It's necessary on the output to prevent loss of pressure due to the flexing of a conventional tube, but using solid wall hoses on the input along with a great big filter (most likely with air still in it) involves all those extra connections for no benefit as I can see. Use a bigger hose and save yourself some well deserved time and penny's 😅
@mahmoodmalik4202
@mahmoodmalik4202 5 місяців тому
Thanks mate giving us such a great information and brief everything individually and properly I have seen a lot of videos. But no one has made one in such detail. Seeing this, I think that even a person who has not picked up a screwdriver can install a heater.
@joshuadelisle
@joshuadelisle 5 місяців тому
Thank you so much for the kind encouragement. Cheers J
@heikoz2010
@heikoz2010 4 місяці тому
Very good Video, perfect explanations. I would go for a backup Battery in parallel to your power supply/charger. I did it without a bat and when i had a power outage, fan stopped and Plastic housing melted ....
@timothyfischer5160
@timothyfischer5160 Рік тому
Also, mount the pump vertical or 45° outlet up to prevent trapped air in pump cylinder, I believe it's to prevent excessive wear over time. Possibly messes with fuel delivery.
@scottyb6765
@scottyb6765 Рік тому
Another great video Josh. I've been running my so called 8kw heater in my well insulated finished 12x24' shop. I had the pump turned up to the highest setting and it put out an impressive amount of heat burning red diesel but there was an distinct smell of hot or burning plastic... I never found evidence of any melted of burnt plastic but I turned the pump down and the smell diminished greatly. Yesterday I drained the oil from my diesel van engine so I will be mixing that used oil in with the diesel fuel at what I judge to be about 25% initially... aiming for 50% eventually. My unit is outside. Only the battery, the control, and the heat tube is inside. You could put a small 12v PC type fan on your exhaust pipe to push that heat out into the room. Keep up the good work - your video presentation is a very good mixture of tech and common sense. If you haven't already please warn people about the many different controllers being sold out there, how to identify them and the differences. Mine will not change from Celsius to Fahrenheit for US use, seems earlier and later models will. Cheers
@joshuadelisle
@joshuadelisle Рік тому
Thank you so much. I'll do my best. You can buy the individual controllers if you want a different version. Cheers J
@scottyb6765
@scottyb6765 Рік тому
@@joshuadelisle I'm mixing 25% waste oil into my red diesel now. The heater may actually be working better ( burning hotter) On this mix. What a great heater. Thanks again for all the info you posted on it.
@fmemories
@fmemories 7 місяців тому
They will all plug up eventually. Look at loweredexpectations. He tried so hard. They all plug up....
@jagd1
@jagd1 Місяць тому
Joshua, thank you for the time and efforts that you put into these wonderful videos!
@joshuadelisle
@joshuadelisle Місяць тому
Thank you so much for watching. Cheers J
@MrBurnzy440
@MrBurnzy440 Рік тому
thanks so much for your updates, just received my heater in the mail going to install today wish me luck...
@joshuadelisle
@joshuadelisle Рік тому
Well done Chris. All the very best. cheers J
@MrBianconeri90
@MrBianconeri90 5 місяців тому
You can use old car EGR cooler to recover heat from the exhaust gas. Coolant can be used to heatup the heater and it is good to make a cooper hose coil over exhaust pipe to warm up oil
@penmanworthington6595
@penmanworthington6595 Рік тому
Great video, I have repaired many of these heaters in trucks. Although very reliable, the main faults is the internal fan failing and if white smoke or difficulty in starting, that green gasket between the heat exchanger and fan hardens and cracks with age probably depending on the amount of start ups the heater experiences.
@davidconner-shover51
@davidconner-shover51 Рік тому
or, more nastily, hard shutdowns. Bearing failure did my last one.
@s1dew1nd3r4
@s1dew1nd3r4 5 місяців тому
do they just run of 12v? could you run them off a leisure battery or two or would it just zap them quick time?
@zebraforceone
@zebraforceone 5 місяців тому
​@@s1dew1nd3r4 Yup they will run off 12V or 24V. There is a ~10A draw on startup for about a minute, which is mostly the glow plug heating up and the fan spinning at full. Same when it goes through it's shutdown routine. On the lowest setting it will use about 1A / hour. You can easily run one off a 110Ah battery, smaller batteries can struggle a bit with the startup and shutdown draw. A 110Ah lead acid leisure battery will give you a good 50 hours of running a diesel heater before it's flat, provided you don't keep turning it on and off again repeatedly. You could run that off a pretty modest solar setup. Source: I'm sat in my camper with my cheap chinese heater, it's -2 outside, I'm sitting here in my pyjamas feeling toasty :)
@thetruthfrmtyme2tyme
@thetruthfrmtyme2tyme 5 місяців тому
I like the heater I could run it off solar and black diesel and I really like the micro turbo. Why do we not have these in the US ? Or do we all ready without the turbo witch would be fuel oil heaters but there not as efficient
@thetruthfrmtyme2tyme
@thetruthfrmtyme2tyme 5 місяців тому
Where can I buy it
@TheCaddy84
@TheCaddy84 7 місяців тому
I like that you are willing to change your solutions after finding new facts. Thats progression as a society, regardless if its online or not. Information is worth time to hear if its facts. Getting to the facts is ehat keeps people interested. Im in America and I do wish you did the conversations for me. I kept having stop vid and search google. Thanks for the uploads friend.
@arliewinters2776
@arliewinters2776 5 місяців тому
My Good Man...I just found your vids today...love the reports on the oil burners ! I have a comment...it is about burning kerosene as opposed to diesel. I have read / heard that kerosene does not have the lubrication properties of diesel. This may be why you noticed a quieter sound decibel difference when switching from starting with kero, then switching to veg-oil. I have also read / heard that using kerosene will shorten the life of the pump because of lack of lubrication....because the pump is a piston...metal on metal piston. Just an observation. Absolutely love this stuff !!!
@joshuadelisle
@joshuadelisle 5 місяців тому
Thank you so much. Kerosene is designed specifically for heating. I'm making another video just now on the same heater as a kind of 12 month review. If the pump does fail they are only £15 to. Replace. I buy kerosene at £0.60 per litre so as you can imagine I'm saving a lot of money even if I have to buy a new pump every year. Cheers J
@superslick5677
@superslick5677 8 місяців тому
Don't take this the wrong way but you are not used to working with heat exchangers and condescending units. I work with 4400kw steam boilers, heat exchangers and lots and lots of condense. People assume that condense takes a lot of time to build up but they are wrong, it is a quick process. The water in the tube is not water, it is condense. You are also correct in saying it is very acidic, hence why you can only reuse it in steam systems to have it pumped back to a hotwell for reuse. For your application you need to cool it down and then put it down a drain (ps there is a water regulation about how hot water and condense can be if going down a drain) on the use of the bucket (good experiment idea) DO NOT let the exhaust pipe get hot and then introduce mains cold tap water (8c) as this will create a lot of thermal shock on the exhaust pipe and it will shatter so please be careful. You can but a cheap exchange plate of eBay for 50 quid, this will have 4 hole in it, so the top 2 holes will be for the exhaust gas in your case and the hot water outlet, the bottom two will be for a condense and the return line of the hot water return. Keep doing what you are doing and just trying stuff out and learning, just please be careful and if you wish to know more I can take pictures of units at work and some steam boilers with the hotwells so it can give you a better understanding of how the system works. Also if an exhaust line gets a build up of condense and becomes water logged your product and experiment will fail, this needs to be kept clear and free from condense at all times, it is a bit like blocking up an air filter. (I am an engineer for the NHS and have a BOAS licence to work on stream so if you want to learn some things on steam, heat exchangers or condense systems and how to use them feel free to hit me up)
@WeeSecure-uk
@WeeSecure-uk 7 місяців тому
I enjoyed this video a lot, quite inspiring. I plan to augment the exhaust heat recovery design further with a DIY heat exchanger and combine this with an air source heat pump. To maximise heat recovery and efficiency, I will split my exhaust into 2 using 3/4" BSP 3 way cast iron female tee (3/4" bsp measures 1" inside), then slip a dozen copper coated scourers around outside of each tube, encase the whole thing in a metal duct and use a separate air input to be heated by the exhaust and feed the warmed air into an air source heat pump. The heated air will enter the cold side of the heat pump and wont be used for the clean air input, [for safety] just to ensure any exhaust gas leakage does not enter indoors. Running the oil heater on minimum Hz, I hope to be able to a) recover the most heat possible from the oil heater and b) be run the heat pump in a temperature range [in winter] where it works most effectively. Hopefully will produce a lot of heat at minimum £/KWh ;)
@joshuadelisle
@joshuadelisle 7 місяців тому
That's awesome well done. I'm making another combo to go on my house as a window module. It'll heat an external hot water tank which can be used for central heating, showers etc.
@StrikeEngine
@StrikeEngine Рік тому
If I'm not mistaken the manual says to keep the exhaust pipe to a maximum of 1 meter length. I believe it says this because any longer and the exhaust becomes a restriction leading to rich burn mixtures. If I were using a long exhaust like in the video I think I would use a much larger diameter pipe eg have the stock exhaust for a short a distance as possible and then step up to say a 3inch pipe. Run that 3 inch pipe indoors for as long a distance as possible and then vent outside. In addition to afrs staying correct, the exhaust gas will be slowed down massively (without causing a restriction) giving the exhaust gases more time to lose their heat inside the room.
@fishhuntadventure
@fishhuntadventure Рік тому
But they sell 2-meter aka 8’ exhaust tubes for them. I have one…
@StrikeEngine
@StrikeEngine Рік тому
@@fishhuntadventure but the manual says 24mm diameter and "at most 1 meter" length for the exhaust. (At least in the Vevor manual I have)
@onlythetruthfull
@onlythetruthfull Рік тому
@@StrikeEngine That is for the rippled tube, best to use straight as much as possible Some Webasto use 32mm pipe. Some converters use far more than 1 metre.Just do not use copper its toxic at exhaust temperature.
@matthewmcauley7982
@matthewmcauley7982 6 місяців тому
Heat and air guy here, the water you poured out of exhaust is the acidic condensate you mentioned at the beginning of the vid
@tramerr92
@tramerr92 5 місяців тому
That was an awesome video!!! told me everything i want to know about these heater, on the very day I'm trying to buy one for my camper van I'm building and living in! Thank you very much i gave you a thumbs up!!! 🙂
@oriolpascualoliver8574
@oriolpascualoliver8574 Рік тому
Hi Joshua, first of all, congrats for your videos, I'm a big fan of your metal working videos and experiments. Regarding this topic, I would recommend you to get an EGR cooler (from a diesel car, to cool the exhaust before reentering to the combustion chamber) that way you will get a propper made gas to water heat exchanger. Thanks for your effort!
@joshuadelisle
@joshuadelisle Рік тому
Thank you so much. Great tip. Thank you. Cheers J
@knobon
@knobon Рік тому
@@joshuadelisle been told a 2006 ford Galaxy is a straight bolt option as the hole sizes match the exhaust
@m1geo
@m1geo 11 місяців тому
Really interesting video. I have a heatpump in my workshop. An air-to-air minisplit. Works great for heating, but lacks some oomph in winter! Definitely considering one of these for the workshop! 😁
@hakes187
@hakes187 5 місяців тому
Good break down, been thinking of grabbing one to heat the back of my garage/shop
@joshuadelisle
@joshuadelisle 5 місяців тому
Thank you. I'm just working on another video with some more tips. Cheers J
@Edward-lo4hb
@Edward-lo4hb 4 місяці тому
Just found your videos. Brilliant genius. Thank you
@sandmanbub
@sandmanbub 8 місяців тому
You can make a cheap and effective vacuum filtration system with a plastic 5 gallon bucket, a small vacuum pump, a hose and fitting for the bucket and funnel shaped screen that fits the top of the bucket. Made one for doing something similar to what you're doing with the used cooking oil.
@joshuadelisle
@joshuadelisle 8 місяців тому
Thank you. It also best to cut it first with kerosene if that's the intention as it makes it far less viscous and easier to pass through. Cheers J
@kde5fan737
@kde5fan737 8 місяців тому
@@joshuadelisle a 10-20 degree temp increase does wonders as well, let alone heating it to 100-130C
@Larsema1
@Larsema1 Рік тому
Very interesting videos and experiments! The small electricity cost for driving glowplug and fan is adding as heat so its not wasted energy either. Next time you try to heat water with the exhaust, just make it spiral down the waterbucket/tank and lead it out in the bottom through a sealing so condensed moist can pour out.
@joshuadelisle
@joshuadelisle Рік тому
Thank you. Great tip. Cheers J
@RandyMoe
@RandyMoe 6 місяців тому
Very good bought one beforehand. I better get at it. Thank you!
@mowersman
@mowersman 3 місяці тому
Really nicely produced video. Handy as I run a few of these, all on kerosene at the moment, but I'm going to start blending with veg oil. I've got plenty as the car is running on it! Definitely need to try and extract the exhaust heat in the workshop too.
@nelisjan4054
@nelisjan4054 Рік тому
You should consider the drainage gradient of your exhaust since the exhaust is now coming from the bottom. might even want to consider a syphon to drain the condense water if you're increasing it's length or making it into a exchanger. Further a great informative vid!
@kenknutson1598
@kenknutson1598 10 місяців тому
Burning one gallon of gasoline creates CO2 and 1.5 gallons of water. Ask a chemistry teacher why.
@vaalrus
@vaalrus 9 місяців тому
Indeed. I heat my large workshop with a condensing exhaust gas boiler, and the exhaust wraps around the heat exhanger, that has a sealed drip tube off the bottom, where it feeds into a siphon/trap that delivers waste water where it can be disposed of. And it’s a significant amount. :)
@equalizingforce2581
@equalizingforce2581 9 місяців тому
I was going to get one of these for emergency home use. I was going to get an extension and run it up the chimney. Are you suggesting condensation would run back down the pipe making this impracticable?
@lookinin123
@lookinin123 5 місяців тому
You've got to get rid of that corrosive condensation. Straight up is a recipe for disaster, IMO.
@leifhietala8074
@leifhietala8074 5 місяців тому
The long horizontal run of the exhaust is excellent! The draft blower generates sufficient mass flow to carry along any condensed water to the exit and spit it out the end, outside the building. For maximum efficiency, double or even triple it. You might need to install a larger diameter exhaust pipe to keep the static flow resistance from becoming too much. Another length or two of exhaust pipe, below the first one, doubles or triples your heat exchange area to harvest more heat out of the exhaust. Make sure the exhaust duct is always sloped downward - it doesn't need to be much - will keep the water that condenses out of the exhaust gases flowing toward the exit.
@joshuadelisle
@joshuadelisle 5 місяців тому
Thank you. Great ideas. New video on it coming soon. Cheers J
@720millionlightyears
@720millionlightyears 5 місяців тому
If he adds more pipe below the existing exhaust, then he will have to cut a new larger hole in the wall. Add the additional exhaust above and then redirect the first cm's coming out of the burner to the top of the new manifold, the exhaust is so hot there that no condensation is taking place at that point, only further down the manifold where it starts to cool down. And yes, all sloped downwards and where it starts getting hand hot, go to a smooth pipe for better air and moisture flow. Keep the muffler and exhaust outside also facing downwards
@THEOFFGRIDMOUNTAINHOMESTEAD
@THEOFFGRIDMOUNTAINHOMESTEAD 4 місяці тому
Thanks for the video! I’m going to fire off my first diesel heater soon! Got plenty of old recovered diesel and plan to make biodiesel.
@MendeleevLabshorts
@MendeleevLabshorts 8 місяців тому
Fantastic ❤Thank you so much for your time and effort
@dotpeat1372
@dotpeat1372 8 місяців тому
Great stuff! Worth watching (&subscribing)... Saved my frying oil(for making oliebollen) and wanted it to mix it in with regular diesel and also the latter to be replaced by kerosene. When running your diesel car on veg oil, it was advised to just mix a little methanol in it as the viscosity is lower which could create starting problems. I would just run with 'blended' fuels. It looks we are going back to the old times, making our own fuel to stay independent! It was also the reason as why mr Diesel invented the diesel engine (only rich people could afford patrol cars). The whole reason why governments want to get us electric, to take our liberties. Anyway, great upload, looking forward to your next one!
@joshuadelisle
@joshuadelisle 8 місяців тому
Yep I totally agree. Im working to be independent from the government and corporations. Cheers J
@dougle03
@dougle03 8 місяців тому
Stay away from methanol; fantastic but horrible at the same time. A fella near me died a few years ago when his shed where he mixed his diesel car fuel exploded. Also, Methanol burns without a visible flame, it's really not pleasant and best avoided...
@mcgam2000
@mcgam2000 9 місяців тому
As most petroleum based fuels combust, a by-product is water vapor... And since you were cooling the exhaust with the water, the water vapor was condensing in the tube. And since the exit pipe was not at the lowest point, it started collecting in the pipe. as already mentioned...
@robertfountain4644
@robertfountain4644 4 місяці тому
brilliant ! got one for a camper build, will give it a go
@Athrunwong
@Athrunwong 6 місяців тому
It's November, i need these kind of video again. It's a struggle when it's getting colder and colder...
@staintonguy
@staintonguy 9 місяців тому
I think you should not use paper element filters for diesel or kerosene unless specifically designed for it. Normally fine wire screens are used for diesel if you check at your auto parts dealer. The common cheap small paper element filters are for Petrol. Apparently the paper element eventually goes “soggy” in diesel and deteriorates. As it does so, it can pass along the fuel line and cause clogging/damage further on which can be difficult and expensive to fix in a Diesel engine.
@jagmarc
@jagmarc Рік тому
A generic O2 sensor permanently installed in the exhaust gas flow may be useful. Not to control anything, just to view its mV output.
@zAlaska
@zAlaska 8 місяців тому
I moved into a large cabin in the Wilds of Alaska with one-bedroom a water room and a huge room building. The central furnace can't keep it warm burning one gallon per hour. I put the largest toyostove in my bedroom, on and off hot and cold hot and cold, the igniter burned out. I repaired the igniter and bought the smallest Toyo heater, limited to a maximum of two gallons a day as little as 1 gallon a day running 24 hours. A nice stable temperature, I let the rest of the house get cold, circulating water from the water room to my bedroom or the toyostove is stealing heat from my bedroom to keep the water from freezing. With a 300-gallon water tank in the water room if the temperature drops below freezing I just empty the water out and refill it with warm water from the well. It was interesting to see it coming out of the tap thick from the cold. I want to stay warm and I don't want to spend any money as little as possible if so. Instead of using 1250 gal I only used 350 gal of past two seasons, when heating fuel hit $5 a gallon, the small machine paid for itself the first year, and I have a place to stay warm.
@andresohier5228
@andresohier5228 Рік тому
If possible Use a different Heat exchanger the one they use in a heat pump and exchange it to the water connected it to a radiator and a water pump with a spead regulator And if still more heat is created use a water buffer tank to store hot water for washing your hand or if still enough shower
@jayeff3196
@jayeff3196 Рік тому
Totally agree about the education thing....I have no issue tearing something down to its bare parts and putting it back together....just a bit inquisitive I think...I wanna know how it works and whats wrong with it...and can I fix it....always great videos Joshua....🙂
@alanhat5252
@alanhat5252 Рік тому
around 1980 (in the UK) people suddenly stopped this sort of thing. I blame the Government.
@joshuadelisle
@joshuadelisle Рік тому
Thank you so much. I hope it gives a good enough perspective on the possibilities. Cheers J
@stevenraeburn8178
@stevenraeburn8178 6 місяців тому
Brilliant video - amazing... keep up the great work...
@utha5034
@utha5034 8 місяців тому
1. Is the exhaust gas out the bottom expelled with ‘force’? If so so, could a ‘turbine’ type thing be added to generate electricity to partially recharge that battery you were using? 2. Could the room heat exhaust be used to generate electricity? 3. Could the heat from the bottom fuel exhaust be used to heat water for a water tank? Again, to generate electricity? The heat alone is good though, but if the energy in that heated air be used before being expelled outside, then it’s a huge win. Obviously you’re already stating that, so my apologies. I really like your channel/video. And i agree with you, the school system fails people. I’m afraid of doing electrical work, but mostly because it’s been SOOO long since I’ve done any. Maybe i should start small and test things, to gain confidence.
@chazj1976
@chazj1976 Рік тому
I've found the exhaust pipe cracks easy when bending even when being careful. Defo have to be really careful with Carbon Monoxide if crack is inside the room rather than on the outside exhaust side. I heated the pipe up with very hot water, not a torch to help bending it as it will harden with heat even more.
@eveningecho5334
@eveningecho5334 Рік тому
Burnt oil…. Just saw a vid from MartyT in New Zealand, using a centrifuge to separate oil from its contaminants to in theory turn knackered oil back into new usable oil. Interesting concept. His results were mildly positive but I think the e setup was a little cruder than what you’d need to produce good results. Seems like something you might be into so!
@laurenceh1958
@laurenceh1958 4 місяці тому
Hi josh, here's an idea I used on a turbo without removing the mesh that heats up. Use oven cleaner as it's good at removing carbon deposits , saving the removal of the mesh part 😊
@Tman76
@Tman76 3 місяці тому
If you make your exhaust exit vent at the low point it will drain. You should see the video of they guy that used a heater radiator from an old building for this. Worked well.
@Leo99929
@Leo99929 Рік тому
Ideally, your exhaust would be roughly the same temperature as the air temperature in space you're heating. You could put a pipe around your exhaust and blow room air through the gap created in the direction against the flow of the exhaust. Counterflow heat exchangers can achieve the optimum of ambient temperature exhaust temperature.
@leonardmason6916
@leonardmason6916 Рік тому
I have done this, put a 5" pipe around the extended exhaust pipe. To toggle on when the pipe is hot and brings in 80 degree outside air in 30 degree outside temps to create a positive pressure in the room with makeup air. I also use free alternative fuel.
@sirfenderjazzmaster
@sirfenderjazzmaster Рік тому
I was thinking the same thing. 12v fan blowing through ductwork in opposite direction from exhaust. You could also consider installing 2x90s and doubling the exhaust back on itself. Would have kept all of the holes in your wall closer together if that is a consideration to someone.
@arti252
@arti252 Рік тому
Is there a limit to the air intake temperature to the burner if not the air intake could suck air which is ducted over the exhaust pipe, no need to force it by a fan.
@johnTurner-ht1vm
@johnTurner-ht1vm Рік тому
​@@sirfenderjazzmaster 0
@paradiselost9946
@paradiselost9946 11 місяців тому
i go one better. 28mm copper pipe. cross drilled with bits of 3/16 soldered in. two reducers to wrap it in 50mm pipe. about a foot long. yes, i happily work in both units at the same time. thermosiphon heater, up to a hot water tank. solar panel thrown on the element for a bit more pizazz. some days i dont bother lighting up. old auto radiator inside the container.
@BensWorkshop
@BensWorkshop Рік тому
Kilowatt is a measure of power, not energy. Energy is power times time, or KiloWatt Hour. KWH. If you run 100KW for 1 second you don't use much electricity. If you run 10KW for an hour you use 10KWH.
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