Killed by Ubisoft - The Tragedy of Rainbow Six Extraction

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After a long hiatus, which intersected with the canceled Patriots game, Tom Clancy’s Rainbow Six returned to market with Rainbow Six: Siege in 2015. The online tactical shooter launched to positive critical reception but little fanfare, its early days beset by game-breaking bugs and frustrating server errors. Ubisoft Montréal navigated the maelstrom of issues over time, elevating the title to a standard of quality where it could competently dominate in the oversaturated games-as-a-service space. With Siege’s PvP multiplayer on lock, Ubisoft tried its hand at PvE by building upon the alien-infested Outbreak mode that debuted in Siege. The publisher originally subtitled the endeavor Quarantine, then rebranded as Extraction because of the coronavirus pandemic. Regardless of its naming conventions, many would argue the PvE experience hardly stood a chance.
Not unlike its predecessor, Extraction hit retailers and digital storefronts with little in the way of anticipation. Ubisoft Montréal’s newest Rainbow Six entry missed the mark critically, however, its at-best average review scores painting the picture of a spinoff that couldn’t live up to that which came before. It was a technically sound shooter, sure, but very little of what made Siege successful reflected in Extraction.
Worse still, Extraction arrived amid a crisis of identity for Tom Clancy’s gaming franchises. Longtime players were begging for back-to-basics tactical shooters and stealth games, while the French publisher supplied bombastic, over-the-top experiences that ignored the grounded qualities so beloved in the likes of Rainbow Six, Ghost Recon, and Splinter Cell. In terms of optics, then, an alien invasion-centric co-op shooter couldn’t have launched at a worst time for Ubisoft’s Tom Clancy IP.
This is the tragedy of Rainbow Six: Extraction.
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@GVMERS
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@TabiTheCat
@TabiTheCat Рік тому
abandoned by ubisoft? what is that a special treatment now? Dont they normally do that with literally every single game they own? damn.
@danielmoung9098
@danielmoung9098 Рік тому
I never thought that rainbow six extraction was a good idea in the first place! I have mixed feelings about remakes and remasters, but I would have preferred to get a remake of rainbow six vegas(campaign remake included too) instead of extraction. I never even played much of Siege because there is no campaign, Ubisoft needs to bring back single player campaigns to rainbow six. A remake of Vegas or bring back Patriots is what I want. I wonder too what is going on with splinter cell and is Ubisoft working on a ghost recon game? Do you know if Ubisoft is developing a new ghost recon game? I'd like Wildlands 2 or Future Soldier 2.
@nak3dxsnake
@nak3dxsnake Рік тому
These developers are living in an ancint sequel mindset when they need to be creating a universe. Imagine subscribing to a Tom Clancy universe that gives you access to all the past and future games. Technically game passes offer this but if noone is enjoying most of the content its just netflix for videogames at that point.
@tatepalmer1997
@tatepalmer1997 Рік тому
Do you have a website where we can post ideas for future videos
@chriscangelosi9438
@chriscangelosi9438 Рік тому
Crisis needed to be permanent! More content! Not less!
@R0ndras
@R0ndras Рік тому
Ubisoft keeps abandoning games and forcing devs to do what literally no one has asked them to do. Its amazing.
@grimaper
@grimaper Рік тому
I stopped buying their games a long time ago. Imo they are only slightly better. It seems the big wigs think they know what gamers want, without actually pressing this knowledge.
@cosseybomb
@cosseybomb Рік тому
Amazing theyre still in business
@INFILTR8US
@INFILTR8US Рік тому
Don't blame Ubisoft, blame Capitalism.
@thegrayyernaut
@thegrayyernaut Рік тому
@@INFILTR8US Too broad a concept, tbh.... Blaming Ubisoft execs is easier for my small brain.
@R0ndras
@R0ndras Рік тому
@@INFILTR8US Plenty of other capitalists around that arent fuckin up as much as Ubisoft
@Jupex
@Jupex Рік тому
Ubisoft is a one big tragedy.
@treetheoak8313
@treetheoak8313 Рік тому
Its one big comedy
@Crimsongz
@Crimsongz Рік тому
Since the success of Assassin’s Creed
@borismuller86
@borismuller86 Рік тому
I used to think it was a comedy, until the sexual abuse allegations were exposed.
@kuyxyz
@kuyxyz Рік тому
One and a half.
@kritizismmusics9737
@kritizismmusics9737 Рік тому
Damn straight
@GeremyG
@GeremyG Рік тому
I thought this was just a gamemode being added to Siege when I first heard of it.
@blitzkrieg8776
@blitzkrieg8776 Рік тому
Started out as one for an event back in 2018*.
@holdenroth5929
@holdenroth5929 Рік тому
It was at first. Extraction started out as a limited time mode called Outbreak that launched with Operation Chimera. Ubisoft spun it off into its own game a little while after that.
@borismuller86
@borismuller86 Рік тому
That’s all it should have ever been. Ubi got greedy as usual.
@AquDrIFT
@AquDrIFT Рік тому
​@@blitzkrieg8776 didn't know Halloween was in March back in 2018
@mr.kwamid-86_43
@mr.kwamid-86_43 Рік тому
​@@borismuller86 freeeeennnccchhhhh!
@sceligator
@sceligator Рік тому
Ubisoft actually have a very noble goal in mind that no one talks about. Through exploiting the Tom Clancy name for all it's worth, they intend to provide the world with free clean power by harnessing the energy of Tom Clancy spinning in his grave.
@uwu_smeg
@uwu_smeg Рік тому
HAHAHAHAHAA
@mr.kwamid-86_43
@mr.kwamid-86_43 Рік тому
Free rotary powah! Lol 😂
@AVGVSTVSPLAY
@AVGVSTVSPLAY 9 місяців тому
😂
@Gemgang
@Gemgang 5 місяців тому
Golden😂😂💀
@nichenetwork9817
@nichenetwork9817 Місяць тому
Fucking mint comment man
@redohealer2
@redohealer2 Рік тому
As someone who played a demo of old Rainbow 6 tactical shooter, I'm sure that many absolutely would want things to go back to that.
@AfroMan187
@AfroMan187 Рік тому
Ahem... we all flocked to Ground Branch
@R0ndras
@R0ndras Рік тому
@@AfroMan187 That game is far from being finished or being R6
@drunkpaulocosta9301
@drunkpaulocosta9301 Рік тому
​@@R0ndras yeah because we have hope for it. Unlike anything with the Tom Clancy name ever made.
@k1roextophia28
@k1roextophia28 Рік тому
as player from the first freeweekend in season 2 R6s I wish to go back yes....
@yaboiibfreezeGaming
@yaboiibfreezeGaming Рік тому
You taking Vegas??
@nathaniel_117
@nathaniel_117 Рік тому
I feel like Ubisoft has abandoned itself. Abandoning their identity of the publisher/developers that they once were.
@kissaninja9700
@kissaninja9700 Рік тому
No. They sell trash and you buy trash. They put the lowest effort and people still buy their trash. All they can do is break the bottom of the barrel and just keep going downwards. If ubi could sell young boys as prostitutes in their games, they would.
@Pers0n97
@Pers0n97 Рік тому
What identity tho? As far as I can remember this company never really had a solid "identity", they always had random IPs that they inevitably milked to death. Their most defining "identity" now is how cringy and woke they became and how samey their games are.
@EvilGenius447
@EvilGenius447 Рік тому
It’s amazing how Ubisoft has consistently ignored fans for YEARS now, releasing games that are largely forgettable, unpopular, and die off quickly yet people STILL have faith in them every release cycle. The next Assassin’s creed game will likely be covered either here or by NerdSlayer in the next 2-3 years
@quemsereu2009
@quemsereu2009 Рік тому
Assassins creed games keep selling like hotcakes tho. It is IMMENSILY profitable and a huge sucess. Even Valhala sold more than 20+ mi copies. Yall may not like it, but the normies eat them
@noobbotgaming2173
@noobbotgaming2173 Рік тому
@@quemsereu2009 I can be called a normie but I love all the main AC titles. I played all of them and my first one was AC in 2007. I pre-ordered Valhalla and beat it as fast as I could. We honestly don't get games like AC anymore. Every open world title now is a Souls-game and I'm so burnt out by dodge-based combat that is the focus of Souls-games.
@davidjohnson36st
@davidjohnson36st Рік тому
Well most of the complaints are from grown men children who hate everything released even shit they ask for they complain bout everything an nothing at the same time, there are so many games, companies an ideas that can or can't make it into a game considering overhead and budgets most complain bout , buying anything when it comes out complaining about price points every year and half them that can't get the game immediately upon release are the biggest gripers there are more people that like any giving game than you will see complaints online seeing all those gives people a false sense of there opinions matter when they don't 😂 bunch of poor adults complaining about shit that ultimately does not matter it's the companies money if they fail not the individual idiots that complain like the are financing and publishing these games it's one big group of socially repressed adult retards who complain bout everything
@nousername2942
@nousername2942 Рік тому
​@@noobbotgaming2173 You don't find Valhalla falls into the same dodge-heavy combat loop as souls games does? It feels like I'm playing a gentrified version of The Witcher 3.
@noobbotgaming2173
@noobbotgaming2173 Рік тому
@@nousername2942 99% of attacks are parryable in Valhalla. The game encourages aggressive play because the parry windows are generous and perfect parrys are piss easy even on Hard. Only some bosses are unparryable for most of the fight.
@ODST_Parker
@ODST_Parker Рік тому
"Let's make a full price PvE version of a popular PvP shooter, based on a limited time zombie event in that game." Yeah... can't imagine how that failed...
@eradicatedpulse6896
@eradicatedpulse6896 Рік тому
To be fair it’s technically not full price it’s 39.99 but I don’t disagree with your statement.
@ODST_Parker
@ODST_Parker Рік тому
@@eradicatedpulse6896 Oh shit, I could've sworn they initially sold it for $60. Nevermind, must be misremembering that.
@armintor2826
@armintor2826 Рік тому
Plus the event was done so much better. The infected were scarier, the maps actually looked overrun with an alien infection rather than just...some evil mold, and the special infected were much better.
@freezingmoon
@freezingmoon Рік тому
I would have preferred a Rainbow is Magic game, tbh.
@kanabis134
@kanabis134 Рік тому
and that event was s h i t
@Ninja_Pro
@Ninja_Pro Рік тому
The real tragedy is that Ubisoft destroyed R6 along with every other Clancy series. Siege should have never carried the R6 name. Now look where we are...aliens.
@yutro213
@yutro213 Рік тому
Except the "aliens" take on Rainbow Six was actually amaazing. Unfortunately it still had too much of Siege on it, and Ubisoft tried to please the Siege fanboys to buy Extraction, which failed horribly. On top of that Ubisoft giving little support to Extraction, instead of appealing to its own fanbase and newcomers (NON-Siege players) killed the future of the game.
@GrippeeTV
@GrippeeTV Рік тому
I honestly think Siege is perfectly fine, it’s nowhere near as tactical as Rainbow Six was traditionally but it’s still one of the more tactical and lethal multiplayer shooters. I just wish Siege didn’t BECOME Rainbow Six and that they continued to release traditional Rainbow Six games.
@Kill-Pill
@Kill-Pill Рік тому
Siege is thriving so I wouldn’t necessarily say they destroyed it
@YogiTheBearMan
@YogiTheBearMan Рік тому
I think Siege is a good multiplayer adaptation of rainbow six. But I agree single player or PvE should’ve stuck with a more grounded approach than extraction. Should’ve used this weird stuff for special events within siege or maybe even within a proper rainbow six co op game
@m.a.k.dynasty4504
@m.a.k.dynasty4504 Рік тому
​@@YogiTheBearMan Extraction is a more realized version of the Outbreak event that was introduced in Siege. Extraction is much bigger and more complex than that event as well, so it couldn't have made it as a DLC event.
@somfierce
@somfierce Рік тому
The narrating and editing on this channel have been so good for years
@SicSemperBeats
@SicSemperBeats Рік тому
Yea this is the only channel I have notifications on
@ThommyofThenn
@ThommyofThenn Рік тому
Correct.
@miltbottleboy
@miltbottleboy Рік тому
They do consistent and high quality work. And 99% of the videos are MUST watch.
@redwaldcuthberting7195
@redwaldcuthberting7195 Рік тому
@@miltbottleboy *must.
@internziko
@internziko Рік тому
Can't believe this channel doesn't have 1mil yet
@BigfryTV
@BigfryTV Рік тому
Thanks for the shoutout GVMERS! Love the channel. Sad to see how Ubisoft treats their IPs.
@CoercedJab
@CoercedJab Рік тому
Well Consumers keep consuming it
@snacks1755
@snacks1755 Рік тому
@@CoercedJab Yep, we have no one to blame for it but ourselves.
@r.daneel.90
@r.daneel.90 Рік тому
​​@@CoercedJabnot true. Extraction is dead, The Division diying, Watch Dogs Legion unfortunately flop the same as Fenyx Rising (actual good game), and Ghost Recon Frontlines was cancelled after the first Beta. And lets no forget about Roller Champions, an interesting sports game but no one knows about it. No, Ubi is not doing well in the numbers and with customers. They're burning money.
@gamingjunkie707
@gamingjunkie707 Рік тому
​@@r.daneel.90 well Xdefiant looks promising.
@MetalGamer666
@MetalGamer666 Рік тому
@@gamingjunkie707 No.
@TheCrypto34
@TheCrypto34 Рік тому
I want rainbow 6 to go back to being a tactical PvE shooter with objectives like Vegas and Vegas 2.
@Neves7561
@Neves7561 Рік тому
The fact that they thought they could get away with scrapping the campaign but still have the balls to charge $60 is just baffling. And even with the eventual price reduction the game still felt overpriced.
@mr.kwamid-86_43
@mr.kwamid-86_43 Рік тому
Lol 😆 FREEENNNCCCHHHHH!
@Pers0n97
@Pers0n97 Рік тому
@@mr.kwamid-86_43 Oh yeah, the french. Like the french of EA right? Oh wait.... its as if that has nothing to do with nationality.
@thinkstoomuch4445
@thinkstoomuch4445 Рік тому
I would love for them to do a piece on SCORN! Not because it was a failure, but because it actually came out! Even after being so close to being abandoned all together! I think a deeper dive into the history of that game would be interesting.
@AUM_-po9sc
@AUM_-po9sc Рік тому
That's more of a Matt McMuscles topic. We just have to wait..
@SicSemperBeats
@SicSemperBeats Рік тому
agreed
@SicSemperBeats
@SicSemperBeats Рік тому
@@AUM_-po9sc matt is dope but i really don't like the way he explains game "history.." He's the man though
@CoercedJab
@CoercedJab Рік тому
These videos feel less and less like a “deep dive” and more and more like an ad friendly Wikipedia synopsis 😂
@yellowskrub
@yellowskrub Рік тому
@@CoercedJab Ah so youre just going around comments being an idiot to all?
@MyHazey
@MyHazey Рік тому
Does anyone remember when, in Rainbow Six, you spend 30 minutes setting up a plan, and spend 2 minutes to execute? Good times.
@DwarfElvishDiplomacy
@DwarfElvishDiplomacy Рік тому
Siege was a lot like Raven Shield Multiplayer until they removed everything smart and turned it into another special move shooter
@Jorendo
@Jorendo Рік тому
Or how they used to have the AI react different and be at other locations, so you thought you knew where to expect them, planned it cause that mother lover was in that room and killed you....now you were gonna jump his ass, you got it all figured out, made your way to that room again, set your guys up, flash it, barge in, you were gonna shoot the mother ducker yourself.......empty room....then behind bambambam.....goshdiggely darn that mother lucker got you again!
@Gary-gq1fo
@Gary-gq1fo Рік тому
Loved rogue spear. Planning the missions was the best part. Assigning go commands as well.
@HanDaimond
@HanDaimond Рік тому
You mean when Rainbow Six used to be Rainbow Six and not Overwatch?
@imembridibuddha
@imembridibuddha Рік тому
Remember when Rainbow Six used to be a realistic tactical shooter?
@DeltaAssaultGaming
@DeltaAssaultGaming Рік тому
“Tom Clancy” and “alien invasion” should never be in the same sentence.
@SyamDaRos-EndoManno
@SyamDaRos-EndoManno Рік тому
The strangest thing I saw in a Tom Clancy game was the brain conservation in Splinter Cell Pandora Tomorrow
@CoercedJab
@CoercedJab Рік тому
Why not? The blackest of ops literally involve the “alien file”
@BlindxSide
@BlindxSide Рік тому
I disagree. A sci-fi adaptation in a Tom Clancy universe could work... but it has to be a Tom Clancy game. Not this. I can totally see a proper Tom Clancy Sci-Fi game working out and being a cool game... but Extraction ain't it.
@DefNotMyBurner
@DefNotMyBurner Рік тому
Eh , they could do an espionage game that digs deeper and deeper into the World Government’s involvement with aliens and their technology with the end SOMEWHAT showing the alien, because let’s be honest , alien designs have all pretty much been done (They’re either bipedal and hairless if they’re intelligent or quadrupedal if they’re aggressive and dumb, still hairless). Plus the vagueness leaves a lot to mind and let’s fans come up with their own ideas and designs. For instance, not showing the aliens in Transformers whatever it’s called where Mark Walhberg is a knight or something, the movie shows only an alien hand but that’s all the movie did right
@Amadeus_Eisenberg
@Amadeus_Eisenberg Рік тому
They need to stop using the Tom Clancy name on their games already. Ubisoft hasn't deserved the Tom Clancy name for 10 years now.
@ChadTheGoose
@ChadTheGoose Рік тому
You should make a video about the rise and fall of E3, at some point. I think that would make a very interesting video.
@CoercedJab
@CoercedJab Рік тому
Rise and fall of the pIandemic
@ThunderCleez66
@ThunderCleez66 Рік тому
Double it and give it to the next person
@HadesWTF
@HadesWTF Рік тому
The direction of the Rainbow Six, Ghost Recon and Splinter Cell series' is all a big tragedy.
@xqt6339
@xqt6339 Рік тому
Because of the exclusivity on the Epic Game Store and Ubisoft UPlay I legitimately forgot this and Far Cry 6 even came out
@Filipwolfen
@Filipwolfen Рік тому
Just now am I realizing that Extraction was not Rainbow Six Siege DLC but a standalone game...
@luciusjuniustavianus7540
@luciusjuniustavianus7540 Рік тому
Me and my sister played a lot of this game when it came out. You guys are absolutely right about the fact that it shouldn't be called r6 but its a shame that it got abandoned, it was a fun coop shooter
@MartinT
@MartinT Рік тому
Yeah it was nice to have a pve co-op shooter, but it definitely shouldn't have been an r6 game.
@djtrac3r935
@djtrac3r935 Рік тому
it still is fun
@AttacMage
@AttacMage Рік тому
I wouldn't mind it having the R6 name if it had some more R6 elements. I like Siege's world and characters, and honestly I wish it was tied into Siege more (gameplay wise), like levels, skins, etc. The feel of extraction is kinda nice compared to Siege.
@GrinningMoth
@GrinningMoth Рік тому
Rise and fall of Splinter Cell would be a good follow up for this. It's a shame how Ubisoft has killed the Tom Clancy franchise.
@Sichunter95
@Sichunter95 Рік тому
Splinter cell never really fell, per se. There just hasnt been another in over a decade.
@GrinningMoth
@GrinningMoth Рік тому
@@Sichunter95 Blacklist underperformed in terms of sales though, so in a way the series has fallen. Back in its heyday Splinter Cell was the flagship franchise of Ubisoft, and now it's just something they sporadically reference in other games. Maybe the remake will bring the series back to life, though personally I don't have high expectations for it.
@wlot28
@wlot28 Рік тому
@@GrinningMoth It underperformed but it was much more of a return to form for the series than Conviction was. Shame they haven't tried making another, but I don't even trust modern Ubisoft enough to not screw it up tbh
@GrinningMoth
@GrinningMoth Рік тому
@@wlot28 Oh yeah, it certainly was a better game than Conviction. And yes, it's probably for the best that a new Splinter Cell hasn't come out because Ubisoft would probably fuck it up.
@shortinos
@shortinos Рік тому
Literaly NO Rainbow Six fans asked for Extraction. I still have no idea why they made it, who they thought the target audience was and why they would think it would be successful.
@CoercedJab
@CoercedJab Рік тому
If anything we were just asking for a return of the event
@adamharris-batt6333
@adamharris-batt6333 Рік тому
Yeah it was a fun event and should have stayed as a Halloween seasonal thing, nothing more. They could have tied playing it to some Halloween skins or something to make money from it and no one would complain
@breeze7464
@breeze7464 Рік тому
Target audience was COD: Ghosts players
@Amadeus_Eisenberg
@Amadeus_Eisenberg Рік тому
It boggles the mind as much as Rage 2.
@yutro213
@yutro213 Рік тому
I and many others asked for it.
@C4Bomber
@C4Bomber Рік тому
What? UBISOFT abandoning a game, leaving it half finished? I'm shocked. SHOCKED. Well not that shocked.
@ltf3247
@ltf3247 Рік тому
It cant be a tragedy if no one cared to begin with. If they released this as a DLC for R6S instead of a standalone release, I think it would still be popular as a break from the normal craziness that is R6S.
@yutro213
@yutro213 Рік тому
Says you, Siege snob.
@numeralland9166
@numeralland9166 Рік тому
I liked the original outbreak of it Felt like R6 version of left 4 dead and while the event itself was cool it lost interest rather quickly I thought it had a lot of potential, but then they added a bunch of replay features that really just bog down the experience in extraction in my opinion.
@BlindMango
@BlindMango Рік тому
Ubisoft has butchered many of the maps and the overall tone of Siege, ultimately making it a game that is nearly unidentifiable from the one it launched as. Then they go off and make this cheesy "alien" spin off. Does Ubisoft even know what they're doing anymore? There are like 80 operators now for Siege, this is ridiculous, it's time to move to a new Rainbow Six game with a good story mode, bring back terrorist hunt, and a good gritty, realistic, focused multiplayer.
@shadow12k
@shadow12k Рік тому
The fact that they didn’t even update the movement 🤢
@lucasLSD
@lucasLSD Рік тому
Maybe I'm at fault here, but I really wanted this game to have a campaign like the mobile task force of the SCP universe, tactical operators going against supernatural stuff, but then it just launched without one.
@josedorsaith5261
@josedorsaith5261 Рік тому
Same. I miss the Tom Clancy campaigns. Ghost Recon: Future Soldier was the last one I genuinely enjoyed
@xLeeroycranex
@xLeeroycranex 8 місяців тому
Exactly. If they had made unique enemies that require unique solutions akin to the SCP universe (each season bringing in new creatures), made it 4-5 players rather than three, and emphasized a Left 4 Dead approach (maybe random moral dilemmas per map like saving a hostage/curing the virus/letting bomb go off in civilian population/etc)....you probably would've gotten a fantastic survival horror shooter.
@pko_2.0_pop7
@pko_2.0_pop7 6 місяців тому
Then Extraction should be a game carry SCP title and it would be worthy SCP game after the Containment Breach with more tactics. It ain't make sense to carry Rainbow Six title with it
@09spidy
@09spidy Рік тому
You hit the nail on the head there, Ubisoft are no longer trend setters (Prince of Persia, Splinter Cell, Assassin's Creed) they're trying to follow industry trends and failing miserably.
@brentloy131
@brentloy131 Рік тому
Bro I love everything mechanically about Rainbow 6’s Siege and Extraction. The characters feel great and the gadgets are awesome. I just wish they utilized everything to make either a fun campaign that was linear or more sandbox.
@pac8827
@pac8827 Рік тому
Before it even came out you could tell it would fail
@jhpk
@jhpk Рік тому
It was fun when it was just an ingame event. It never had a potential for a standalone game.
@eradicatedpulse6896
@eradicatedpulse6896 Рік тому
It definitely had potential as a stand-alone game if it was an actual game and not just a mode they made people pay for.
@Megamike144p
@Megamike144p Рік тому
It had plenty of potential, the problem is they didn't realize any of that potential.
@steelbear2063
@steelbear2063 Рік тому
@@eradicatedpulse6896 So then it didn't have a potential
@notkyloren
@notkyloren Рік тому
The thing that sucks is that Outbreak was way more fun than Extraction turned out to be. It was a much more dynamic game and played more like Left 4 Dead (the whole team progresses through the map). It was like playing Terrorist Hunt, but with lots of zombies. Extraction turned out to be completely different and really boring in comparison, especially with its "checkpoint" system (transition areas). Overall, the game is way slower-paced, and triggering zombie hordes is treated more as a punishment than a core gameplay mechanic. The only similarity the two share are that they both use the Siege universe/some operators, and they both involve aliens. That's about it. I specifically remember saying I'd be happy to pay for a more fleshed-out Outbreak game. But man, what we got was not that.
@JeffreyBernabe
@JeffreyBernabe Рік тому
NEXT: *The Rise and Fall of American McGee's Alice Trilogy*
@claireredfield7368
@claireredfield7368 Рік тому
They already did Alice Madness Returns, if I´m not mistaken.
@JeffreyBernabe
@JeffreyBernabe Рік тому
@@claireredfield7368 need update or redux or something
@chriscigano11
@chriscigano11 Рік тому
The most frustrating thing is, they have the IP’s, imagine a ghost recon or splinter cell game with the level of detail that Naughty Dog put into their games, for me a 25+ hour 18 rated Splinter cell game could literally be GOTY, but they just don’t do it 😂
@glibchubik4090
@glibchubik4090 Рік тому
I was skeptical but eager to play a campaign with Siege characters, able to flesh out them and their stories in a new setting. Then i saw the 40$ price and quickly realized that it won't be what i expect it to be :( It did have a cool visual aesthetic (love me some yellow and black) and the cutscenes were a pleasure to watch, however small there was
@lukratos132
@lukratos132 Рік тому
Gotta love the quality of this channel
@Emboltic
@Emboltic Рік тому
This literally couldve been a PvE mode in siege than a separate game like they did before, i knew extraction would flop terribly
@derrickdutoit3400
@derrickdutoit3400 Рік тому
I remember being one of the players that took part of the closed beta, aside from the grossly distracting watermark I had a great time with it. I just wished they added it to Siege itself rather than a standalone title even if you had to pay $20-30 for access. It would've added more value to Siege to make up for the lack of a campaign and could've been a great way to destress after having one too many rough matches.
@GabrielKnightz
@GabrielKnightz Рік тому
Dear GVMERS, Consider the tragedy of their game "Ghost Recon Phantoms" now re imagined as XDeviant.
@JM-qt5mg
@JM-qt5mg Рік тому
Please dont stop this channel. These videos bring up nostalgia and great information. Also great vidoes for napping lol
@quemsereu2009
@quemsereu2009 Рік тому
I sleep to this all the time 😂
@ErroneousPower
@ErroneousPower Рік тому
If there was more thought put into the game mode and end game it could have been a unique experience. I like it but there are some things that makes it difficult to keep coming back to
@blinkachu5275
@blinkachu5275 Рік тому
Great game idea Unfortunately poor execution :/ If it had an actual story mode, it probably would've done a lot better since so many R6 enjoyers just want a single player campaign again in R6
@yellowskrub
@yellowskrub Рік тому
Man this video hurts to watch as someone who playtested it for Ubi under NDA, bought the game for full price and put 100+ hours into it within just under a week. I have seldom been so disappointed by a game like I was with this one. Edit: One thing the video doesn't really talk about is just how little content the game had. The maps were extremely few and were all basically the same that as well as the crisis events content lasted about 1 to 3 hours before becoming extremely boring. You would complete a crisis event in only 2-4 play throughs each lasting around 30 minutes each unless you played with random people in which I presume if your team were inexperienced enough you might fail once or twice inflating the length of the event. Also between crisis events there was absolutely nothing to do in game.
@vinhill1456
@vinhill1456 Рік тому
You played it for 100 hours. You couldn't have been that disappointed at the time.
@yellowskrub
@yellowskrub Рік тому
@@vinhill1456 I played it under the foolish assumption that it would get more content and support. Also I had friends to play with distracting me from how awful it was.
@CoercedJab
@CoercedJab Рік тому
Doesn’t sound like you were very disappointed lmfao
@yellowskrub
@yellowskrub Рік тому
Firstly I don't see the point in these 2 comments but I shall still waste my time explaining such simple things to such dense people such as yourselves. 1. I played with friends which as any person knows can make even the worst of times far better than on your own. 2. I played under the foolish assumption that the game would get proper long term support and have far more content added to it. 3. I wasn't in the best of mental headspaces meaning a game where I could escape into was an easy path to take. Please next time when you comment actually do so with a reason rather than this pointless "Well you spent what I perceive as a long amount of time on it so it can't have been that bad" many idiots seem to say.
@encross8058
@encross8058 Рік тому
​@@yellowskrub well you said you played it like it would get more support, which to me means you had a lot of hope for the game, you also said that you only played with friends which is nice, but I like playing with randos for the challenge, which makes it quite fun.
@SakurakoLover
@SakurakoLover Рік тому
I feel like Ubisoft is desperately chasing trends and oh they want to be MCU for some reason. Wouldn't surprised if they will make MCU game
@thanos43infinity
@thanos43infinity Рік тому
Correction: Its now the the M-SHE-U. Just like Lucasfilm Disney are a bunch of 🤡🤡
@Zabasu
@Zabasu Рік тому
i remember the game was supposed to come out eventually but never heard of it after the press got a chance to play it
@_M4X15
@_M4X15 Рік тому
Why if they were going PvE did they not make vegas 3? It would have been amazing
@christophbethe7871
@christophbethe7871 Рік тому
I was so hyped for this game. I played the outbreak event in r6 and it was glorious it was near perfect. They could have done so much with that base. I wanted a compelling story leading through different maps and objectives that told more about the known operators. It could have been so good. Only if they would care
@SirTimmy7
@SirTimmy7 Рік тому
I see you doing one of these for xdefiant i tried one game in the beta and it was the most generic shooter lol i felt like i already played it 10 years ago. It takes a little bit from all the other fps games but does not bring anything new to the table.
@nufrequency84
@nufrequency84 Рік тому
It looks like yet another goofy hero shooter plastered with macrotransactions. I wouldn't be surprised servers will go dark within year just like that other f2p shooter they are sunsetting this month.
@Mordrevious
@Mordrevious Рік тому
The amount of boneheaded moves Ubisoft (and other AAA) companies make is evidence that just because someone is high up in a corporate hierarchy, doesn't mean they know a goddamn thing.
@shadow12k
@shadow12k Рік тому
That game left gamepass quick 😂
@Cloud92390
@Cloud92390 Рік тому
Ubisoft itself has an identity crisis. They don’t know if they want to make good games or just a few services that cannibalize each other
@asbestoscrate
@asbestoscrate Рік тому
Still probably my most played game I had on Gamepass...lovely game for the price of "free".
@BlockFEED
@BlockFEED Рік тому
You are lost if you really play this game 😅
@asbestoscrate
@asbestoscrate Рік тому
@@BlockFEED Whatever. Had a good time with Crossplay with my Xbox friends.
@Wod-c
@Wod-c Рік тому
@@BlockFEED Key word is "free".
@Pers0n97
@Pers0n97 Рік тому
"free"... as long a you pay for the battlepass.
@SkyChaser-
@SkyChaser- Рік тому
That whole ad makes me feel sorry that you had to read what they gave you, "perfect for gamers" and "most importantly of all, no dishes" just hits the wrong buttons
@P-Nello
@P-Nello Рік тому
Extraction isn't bad, it's just not deep enough to maintain interest
@caliginousmoira8565
@caliginousmoira8565 Рік тому
no... but *Rainbow 6* extraction is bad. just like *Ghost Recon* breakpoint. the division was already pushing it with the "face tank all the bullets" enemies(and shotgun snipers)
@mr.kwamid-86_43
@mr.kwamid-86_43 Рік тому
​@@caliginousmoira8565 DEEEEEPPPP
@_Devil
@_Devil Рік тому
Sometimes like Patriots could exist today, we're in desperate needs of a FPS game with an actual storyline (hence why MW19 and 22 were massive singleplayer successes). Multiplayer always-online games are failing one after another, and only the Ye Olden titles like Counter-Strike and Team Fortress are thriving.
@OsKuukkeli
@OsKuukkeli Рік тому
Hunt: Showdown is awesome🤘
@kaylynnhammond834
@kaylynnhammond834 Рік тому
The ignorance of this comment is stunning
@Dr.Oofers
@Dr.Oofers 11 місяців тому
@@kaylynnhammond834 Can you explain in case people miss it?
@MartinT
@MartinT Рік тому
Pretty shocking that they couldn't even be bothered to tell the community that support for the game was over and that it was left to a discord response to do so months later.
@mr.kwamid-86_43
@mr.kwamid-86_43 Рік тому
Lol. That's funny
@guardian218
@guardian218 Рік тому
When I first saw the trailer for Patriots I got excited and wanted more. Then Tom Clancy died and not long after I heard that game was being canceled in favor of what became Siege. I was gifted Siege for my bday but couldn't get into it. Extraction looked like a game mode and never seemed like anything more than that. I really wish Rainbox Six would at least go back to similar gameplay like the Vegas I and II games. Instead of chasing a trend that makes absolutely no sense for the franchise I wish they would get back to what made players want to jump on and neutralize terrorists.
@shiddyangler
@shiddyangler Рік тому
Rainbow Six to me has always been synonymous with realism. That’s why I enjoyed playing them growing up. Siege was such a unique game that was hyper realistic and required actual tactics and communication. Even that game started to push the bounds of reality by adding more and more far fetched operators and gadgets and turned me off from playing. The extraction push was just the nail in the coffin for that series. RIP Siege
@bounceycake1
@bounceycake1 Рік тому
I really liked Rainbow Seige for awhile but since it falls under "tactical competitive shooter" things can get toxic and frustrating when you play online after a while, so I stopped playing. The whole Extraction game didn't interest me either, as we have seen other games do this same zombie style game before but better imo. Informative video, thanks!
@JAA_007
@JAA_007 7 місяців тому
Been saying this since R6S prior Retconning the entire franchise and killing patriots was the major blow The rest of the propeties were executions after that surpise betrayal The rest went out as predicted Gutted every franchise
@nivlheim09c97
@nivlheim09c97 Рік тому
I remember getting an alpha invite to this but barely tested it due to the full screen watermark which is not friendly on my monitor. Lost interest after that. And now learned about this.
@CaptJackSwallows
@CaptJackSwallows Рік тому
Remember rainbow six Vegas was amazing and we got a sequel then suddenly just stopped with this amazing game to the crappy rainbow six we have now bring back Vegas
@Fatman311
@Fatman311 Рік тому
Live service games doing what live service games do.
@SyamDaRos-EndoManno
@SyamDaRos-EndoManno Рік тому
Eventually die
@abrahamalviarez5870
@abrahamalviarez5870 Рік тому
it wanst live service at all, since i never had any kind of battlepass, and u could get the store points for free after finishing a weekly maelstrom protocol, it was one of the more player budget friendly games of 2022 if u already had gamepass.
@Fatman311
@Fatman311 Рік тому
@@abrahamalviarez5870 A live service game relies exclusively on maintaining a strong player count and the developers introducing new content on a regular basis to keep players interested, while relying on private servers for online only play. Hence the term 'live service'. I dont really care for them myself since if you buy the game there's no great guarantee you'll still be able to play it a few years or sometimes even just months down the line when it loses popularity and the servers eventually get shut down.
@abrahamalviarez5870
@abrahamalviarez5870 Рік тому
@@Fatman311 it happens with most multiplayers after all, I remember enjoying playing crysis 2 multiplayer everyday after school and it got shut down after some years
@Dr.Strangelewd
@Dr.Strangelewd Рік тому
I remember the event in R6S worked fine as a L4D Lite, but it never felt like something that should be around for longer than a month. I was baffled when they announced a stand alone game, it looked so bland.
@jordanwhite352
@jordanwhite352 Рік тому
It's interesting to see the behind the scenes because based on the limited stuff that I saw, I had a completely different take on everything. I was actually initially excited for rainbow six quarantine because it looked like it was going to be PVP with an E element to it. The idea that there would be a global pandemic during all the military operations, meaning that not only did you have to worry about the rival factions you're shooting at what the actual virus or infection itself that basically a random party that affects both competing teams. When the pandemic broke out I thought the game would obviously be canceled, but seeing then it come back with a name change and have it just focus on aliens instead of a resident evil type virus. I thought this was their way to avoid the real pandemic while still releasing the game. And of course, with these generic bright colored aliens, I immediately tuned out. Didn't know all this other stuff was going on. Very fascinating.
@YarugumaSou
@YarugumaSou Рік тому
It's funny every time you can see the quality of a game through the announcer alone
@RallyFumo
@RallyFumo Рік тому
I was actually excited for the one month demo of this gamemode, but due to work I never got to play it until the last day, when on my first game it crashed 5 minutes in and I couldnt get back in.
@ThunderKat
@ThunderKat Рік тому
Sad how people just prefer PvP over Co-Op PvE I still hope this change on the next generation of games with advance AI adding challenge and dynamics we still haven't seen.
@yutro213
@yutro213 Рік тому
One of the most upsetting things is to see Rainbow Six Siege getting a "Year 8", while Rainbow Six Extraction did not even year a "Year 2". We all know Ubisoft made a massive mistake targeting R6Siege players to buy R6Extraction, but Ubisoft should have keeping investing on R6Extraction to shift away from R6 Siege making it more into its own thing and attracting a different public from R6Siege, but Ubisoft these days only care about the bigger successes now.
@alanjohnsonbmw
@alanjohnsonbmw Рік тому
Just want Rainbow Six Vegas 3. Its been too long
@M3RUL3Z
@M3RUL3Z Рік тому
While I despised the idea of not having actual human beings being the enemies in a Rainbow Six game, I think the kicker was not having every operator available to enjoy. My two favorite operators weren't even in the game. That and the price tag did it for me
@nicocrazy9201
@nicocrazy9201 Рік тому
I have something to admit, I actually love extraction. I thought it had so much potential with its gameplay. The main problem with extraction I think is, it exploited a popular IP to attract players, and lack of any variation of the gameplay. To be more specific, there was only one mode. Making it repetitive really quickly. What I think they should’ve done is make more modes for extraction, don’t be connected with R6 so that it can be its own IP, a variety of game modes and elements that makes it different than siege. I hope some developers from Ubisoft can learn from extraction, and can at least make a resemblance of it.
@technodoomed1
@technodoomed1 Рік тому
It's a shame what happened to Extraction. The game's amazing, honestly
@djtrac3r935
@djtrac3r935 Рік тому
the game looks absolutely beautiful and plays very well with good team coordination. I hope some day that maybe ubi will do some sorta update to extraction if player numbers raise, assuming they dont shut down the servers before then
@jplayer073
@jplayer073 Рік тому
Extraction is so much fun. One of the best coop PvE shooters I've played. Never understood why gamers were so hard on it and seem to prefer much worse games with much less polish.
@porunga714
@porunga714 Рік тому
I absolutely loved Outbreak when it first came out. The combination between stealth sections and full on guns blazing action portions of the missions was super fun to me and the overall aesthetic of the infection was amazing because you could tell that what you were fighting was civilians that were infected by an alien parasite and the whole mood of the missions was really dark and serious. Personally, lot of the charm that made Outbreak cool to me was lost in Extraction. Both aesthetically, and gameplay-wise. Outbreak had you running L4D style missions that were meaningful for the overarching lore of the event in atmospheric, dark and even scary locations fighting hordes of infected people. Extraction has you doing objectives selected at random in some really forgettable locations fighting weird alien dudes that glow under blacklights and spending 50% of the time burning goo with a laser. But even after downgrading the PvE experience that Outbreak offered, I still wanted Extraction to succeed and waited patiently for 2 years for the game to come out only for Ubisoft to do what they do best and made yet another massive flop of a game. Moral of the story, fuck Ubisoft.
@AfroMan187
@AfroMan187 Рік тому
The underlying problem, IMO, is that Ubisoft has no idea how to Clancy titles properly anymore. Using the Clancy label to carry ridiculously off-brand games just pisses all over the legacy of those original titles, and the fanbases they created. We're not stupid, and we have long memories. We know this isn't R6, and its insulting for them to try to sell it to us as such.
@sozaj
@sozaj Рік тому
Yeah, Aliens, zombies, and mutants just SCREAMS Tom Clancy. 🙄
@mp_click
@mp_click Рік тому
Genuinely loved this game, from it's theme, the music, the gunplay, the enemies... It just needed more support, but Ubisoft just barely bothered. They updated it like 4 times, and that was it. 😢💔
@silent6snipes135
@silent6snipes135 Рік тому
the 2 biggest issues was lack of DLC in it and lack of not being just added into r6 as 30 dollar DLC so you could semiweekly switch with friends between the 2
@HAL_EDITS
@HAL_EDITS Рік тому
I liked some things about the game as well. Mainly funny enough bad to be the whole operators having the ability to be captured or injuried. It was way before the game came out that my friend and I would do TH with the same sort of rules. If the operator you played was KIA, we couldn't use them and so forth. The idea of risk and reward with your operators always was a neat concept but sucks that it was in a Cash Grab R6 Siege Game.
@abdelali9279
@abdelali9279 Рік тому
That was definitely one of the games ever made by one of the publishers of all time.
@scraf7207
@scraf7207 Рік тому
We havent had a proper rainbow six experiance since Vegas 2
@EziosBladez
@EziosBladez Рік тому
This was a wreck from the start. I wish we'd got Patriots. Also, this game had that 'trailer is better than the actual game concept'
@RosaRodriguez-nc1ku
@RosaRodriguez-nc1ku Рік тому
Ubisoft=Bad
@zombl337og
@zombl337og Рік тому
E3 died because AAA games dont exist n e more.......
@tHaH4x0r
@tHaH4x0r Рік тому
I do hope tom clancy IP (and ubisoft as a whole) will go back to who they once were, instead of being the faceless money hungry giant that they have become. I do miss the more serious shooters and stealth games a lot, but also other genres ubisoft tended to do such as 3d platformers like Rayman 2/3 and Tonic Trouble.
@Spartan_Jackal
@Spartan_Jackal Рік тому
I was one of the ones that was given access to that hush-hush testing. You know, about a month before launch? It was so disgustingly buggy, broken, and boring I said "nah" and canceled anything to do with it
@Ride-Drive
@Ride-Drive Рік тому
It's not a tragedy if noone was interested in the first place
@vinhill1456
@vinhill1456 Рік тому
I was a senior dev on Extraction and man, this is really surface-level stuff. So many things happened internally with this title. The game in a vacuum was fine. If it was made by anyone else then it would have done better because of the name of Ubisoft alone. I don't even work at Ubi anymore but the zeitgeist's "gripes" and trend-based hate for third party companies is an absolute joke. The fact that it wasn't even mentioned that our team was swatted twice while we were working on this game is exactly what I mean. Barricading ourselves on a roof because of misguided gamers being lied to by Kotaku journalists and BS twitter trends. There's much worse companies to work for that mistreat their devs and fans but because they make 10/10 games that are praised and win "Best game direction" awards, all while third parties are hated on for just trying new things. And that's the real tragedy. Gamers complain when third parties try new things while at the same time complaining that thing don't change enough. 80 million people bought at played R6S and its wacky expansions and nobody understands why the company chases them? If you want more realistic games, then buy them. More would get made. It's very, very simple.
@BlindxSide
@BlindxSide Рік тому
" then buy them. More would get made. It's very, very simple." We do. But they are barely getting made at all. That's the problem. The reason Ghost Recon, Rainbow Six, and Tom Clancy names are popular as game franchises and were loved is BECAUSE they started out as realistic tactical games. I think the concept of Extraction as a game would have been fine and recieved better IF and ONLY if: - Rainbow Six had other proper titles being introduced outside of Seige. Proper tactical Rainbow Six games. But getting Seige... and then a f*cking coop alien shooter after the Rainbow Six franchise was starving for a proper R6 game for YEARS was a terrible decision. And not just R6, but Ghost Recon and Splinter Cell as well. - Other Tom Clancy titles weren't Far Cry clones. - It wasn't a Seige asset flip. - Didn't use the Rainbow Six name and was branded as something else or new IP entirely. People associate R6 with tactical and shooter. Not sci-fi and aliens. Ubisoft has CONSTANTLY been shitting on it's classic IPs for over a decade and this is why people get upset. Becuase shit like a sci-fi coop shooter gets made when we don't even have proper main titles for them to satisfy the main core audience. Extraction's failure was due to out-of-touch people who decided such a game was the right direction to take for the next Rainbow Six title.
@vinhill1456
@vinhill1456 Рік тому
@@BlindxSide As a collective, more people are buying the newer stuff over the older stuff. So with all due respect, the above isn't true at all. People are shitting on Assassins, then buy Valhalla in record numbers, people say Siege is a joke compared to Vegas and not true to Rainbow and then Siege sells 8x more. People say FARCRY6 is cartoonishly bad, it sells 5x more than Farcry 2, the referenced peak by fans. I can go on and on. So no, you don't vote with your wallets. You buy games in record numbers that are wacky then ignore the straight military Clancy games like Ghost Recon. You're in the vocal minority of what gamers actually want. You might be in the echo-chamber of thinking that "EVERYONE wants X" but you're not buying it as a collective. Devs even want to make the older style stuff, games get pitched ALL THE TIME that are realistic in nature but they're ultimately turned down for less realistic ventures simply because we see the numbers and gamers are voting loud and clear about the types of games they actually want. I respect that you personally have preferences, I share them; but you're not the majority, not even close.
@Gweb52
@Gweb52 Рік тому
I’d cut my toe off for a TRUE next gen rainbow 6 game . The single player would be a hardcore tactical shooter and include planning and stratagy along with realistic guns and gadgets . You would have realistic objectives and varied environments that let you choose and plan how to approach. The online portion would be a combination of seige and “hell let loose “
@Agumon5
@Agumon5 Рік тому
They just needed to make a damn single player Splinter cell game man.
@SalusFuturistics
@SalusFuturistics Рік тому
It's funny to go back to Rainbow Six Vegas now and think "Yeah this plays x Years before an Alien Invasion!"
@vercoda9997
@vercoda9997 Рік тому
I remember when this launched, the utter, utter silence everywhere about it. For months ahead of release, there was Zero buzz or interest, and it dropped like an anchor at retail.
@CYWNightmare
@CYWNightmare Рік тому
The saddest part imo is the fact it has Battle eye so there's no future for modding it at all. Really not worth hacking in since you run the risk of a ban from Battle eye
@josedorsaith5261
@josedorsaith5261 Рік тому
And once the servers get killed off, the game will cease to exist.
@somejetdude
@somejetdude Рік тому
There is almost no single player or pve military tactical shooters out on console other than GR Wildlands and Breakpoint which suffer from their own issues. Ubisoft is sitting on a amazing ip’s and can’t seem to put anything out other than risk free generic games
@pouletsept5099
@pouletsept5099 Рік тому
I JUST played this for my first time yesterday. I got it for free on my PS+ this month. 3 hours in I was done. Got up, uninstalled it and told my partner "Remember how i said I haven't played a bad game in years, think i broke that record tonight." I remember playing the extraction Halloween event on R6: Siege when it was live. Best event ever! I can see why they wanted to do a full game of it with how successful the event was. The actual game however was so damn boring and a slog. It had none of the urgency and fun from the actual Halloween event. Extraction was giftwrapped for them with how successful that Halloween event was. No reason this side spin-off should have been this bad.
@CoercedJab
@CoercedJab Рік тому
You gay? What’s with people calling their husband or wives or gfs and bfs “partner” 😂
@pouletsept5099
@pouletsept5099 Рік тому
@@CoercedJabYeah, I'm with another male.
@Pellbort
@Pellbort Рік тому
My squad downloaded and installed Extraction and gave it a go. Not one of us had any fun. The enemies were boring, the gameplay loop was boring, the objectives and missions were boring. It was not a full game. We uninstalled it and instantly forgot it existed.
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