Legal Loopholes: How to Find Land and Live Off Grid in the UK | Land & Planning for Off Grid Living

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Planning law in the UK makes it notoriously difficult to buy land and live on it, however, there are ways to do it and this video aims to highlight these.
We unravel the intricate world of UK planning law, shedding light on how to buy land and embark on the journey to be able to build and live on that land. Discover the myriad of avenues available to individuals seeking to break free from a conventional lifestyle.
Delve deep into the complexities of UK planning law, learning the curial steps required to obtain the permissions necessary for your off grid endeavour.
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00:00 Intro
00:45 Big Question - Can you buy land and live on it in the UK?
01:43 Resources
02:15 Common Misconceptions
03:06 Terminology
03:18 Illegal VS Unlawful
04:09 Land Designations - different types of land
04:40 The Off Grid Book - How to navigate planning in the UK
05:14 Green Belt Land
05:35 Area of Outstanding Natural Beauty (AONB)
06:04 Sites of Special Scientific Interest (SSSI)
06:27 Conservation Areas
06:49 Agricultural Land
07:15 Brownfield Land or Sites
07:49 Permitted Development Rights
09:15 The 4 Year Rule
20:58 Building Parameters - 4 Year Rule
22:12 The 10 Year Rule
24:49 The 28 Day Rule
27:38 Land Split Theory - is it possible?
30:10 The 56 Day Rule
31:00 The 60 Day Rule
33:44 One Planet Development
35:56 Conditions - One Planet Development
39:09 Field to Farm
44:34 Field to Farm Requirements
47:32 Class Q Act
49:00 Important Notes
50:57 How to Find Land
54:16 What to Look For When Buying Land in the UK
55:41 Conclusion

КОМЕНТАРІ: 665
@paulhaworth1824
@paulhaworth1824 6 місяців тому
Isn't it funny how us mere mortals really struggle to get planning permission for a single dwelling on green belt land yet large companies find it easier to get planning for countless houses totally obliterating the country side. My father's farm of 40 years with soon be surrounded by over a thousand houses , he's currently fighting for a new lease. One rule for us another for those with connections
@offgridpath
@offgridpath 6 місяців тому
It's a great shame. I struggle with the same thought. If you have the money then you can do what you want. It's a great shame for people wanting to live a simple existence closer to nature.
@jayjohn1868
@jayjohn1868 6 місяців тому
Do something about it then
@DJ-uk5mm
@DJ-uk5mm 6 місяців тому
It’s easier if you are a pigeon, a fox, a badger or a rat… even a worm can build a home without asking for ‘permission’…………
@raymondpomfret4214
@raymondpomfret4214 6 місяців тому
It's a case of who you know not what you know and of course there's the back handers, from what I've heard here I wouldn't bother in this country, its finished anyway it's not great Britain any more and had I been 40years younger I'd be out of here in a shot
@justalitttleun
@justalitttleun 6 місяців тому
It's called corruption, follow the money many mps have there hands in these companies, Balfour of the BALFOUR treaty for example. The whole system is corrupt made and set up for a few people to protect them against us and to legalise what they want to do and make illegal what we want to do.
@adrianellis4497
@adrianellis4497 Місяць тому
I think a Petition should be ran to gain basic human rights to provide your own accommodation on your own land at your own cost, with no interference from councils or authorities.
@liveanddirect3028
@liveanddirect3028 29 днів тому
Yes yes yes !
@SummitSelfieSeeker
@SummitSelfieSeeker 29 днів тому
Get one set up I'll be on board
@spikefawkes5152
@spikefawkes5152 28 днів тому
The tories are now being at trying to strip away our human rights. So don’t count on that. They want us on the streets.
@sharonwray5498
@sharonwray5498 27 днів тому
That's a brilliant idea !!!!! what I cant work out is if you supply your own Water get rid of your own rubbish clear your own land have a composting toilet supply your own power etc why you would have to pay council tax because you are doing it all yourself?? Pay your bit to the police you may need them and obviously national insurance as that's for medical care mainly and separate but why do you pay council tax if not useing the facilities they offer??
@stephena1196
@stephena1196 25 днів тому
The government are keen to exit from the European Convention of Human Rights, so I doubt they'll consider any kind of petition for basic human rights.
@livefreeordie5769
@livefreeordie5769 Місяць тому
Lived in my woodland for 8 years. Now I have a cottage that me & my dogs love.
@petertaylor6384
@petertaylor6384 28 днів тому
I wouldn't ask where you live but could you share your experience?
@books4739
@books4739 4 місяці тому
Incredible the lengths we UKers have to go to to live a quiet life in the woods.
@offgridpath
@offgridpath 4 місяці тому
Sadly you're right
@lweleven3423
@lweleven3423 Місяць тому
Control
@darrelltregear756
@darrelltregear756 Місяць тому
Can't even go camping these days
@mgm7671
@mgm7671 Місяць тому
They want you stuck in the rat race
@derekhunt6943
@derekhunt6943 29 днів тому
The town and country Planning act was designed to control humanity.
@bellydancesensations
@bellydancesensations 6 місяців тому
In Talley valley Wales a group of people purchased land between them and moved from one plot to another, in the end they gave up and left them alone. The people living at Talley have now been there for at least 36 years.
@offgridpath
@offgridpath 6 місяців тому
That sounds awesome - is that the idea i was talking about with the 28 day rule? thanks for the info it's greatly appreciated
@shepherdkings5892
@shepherdkings5892 5 місяців тому
My friends family lived there! Well cool 😊
@TheBigfatmatt
@TheBigfatmatt 2 місяці тому
Had friends in Bristol who had something to do with Talley/Teepee back along in the 80s and 90s, always wondered how and where there are now ?
@Hayley-hb6vx
@Hayley-hb6vx Місяць тому
Flower farm? 🙂
@Crosshatch1212
@Crosshatch1212 Місяць тому
@@TheBigfatmatta lot moved to Portugal gave up on all the road rules ,rave rules land etc etc ,
@Bogas76
@Bogas76 5 місяців тому
Councils and enyone who’s participating in this should be in prison . That includes governing authority’s. This is legalised slavery .... absolutely disgusting. Thank You for great content .
@offgridpath
@offgridpath 5 місяців тому
No worries, I'm glad you enjoyed it! It's a shame that it is so difficult to do but it's doubtful it's going to get any easier in the future that's for sure
@Normanskie
@Normanskie Місяць тому
Yes but you say that but what would you say if a group of gypsies moved on the land OR a group of noisy bikers used it for a meet every weekend for a good old heavy rock and boozing secession.
@KityThian
@KityThian 26 днів тому
😮😊oh this comment is so spooky....
@MyMarlinman
@MyMarlinman Місяць тому
A very informative video. My Wife and I moved to Scotland to live with our Son at his Farm in 2021. Due to age and health issues we decided to apply for a certificate of lawfulness for a mobile home in the style of a lodge.,under the caravan act. Local planning told us that we had to apply for full planning to use it as a granny annexe.It would be in the curtilage of the garden. It took 9 months for a decision and we finally got permission.However the sting in the tail is that they have put a stipulation on the permission that after ten years it must be removed and the site returned to its former condition. Apparently they decided that the mobile lodge would be rotten ! We could reapply to them after 10 years as it is considered a temporary building to them. This is unacceptable and we are appealing this decision. Too many grey areas and their interpretation of the rules. The uk sucks.
@user-fb3pu3qx3t
@user-fb3pu3qx3t Місяць тому
That’s disgraceful
@duncanridgley2591
@duncanridgley2591 12 днів тому
@@user-fb3pu3qx3t live in ex-communist countries, they don't give a dam, they value common sense!
@user-cq5kb3oe7q
@user-cq5kb3oe7q Місяць тому
u can get around all these laws, u can knock down grade 1,2,3 listed dwellings do anything u want to do ,and its very simple read on ,,,, build a back hander network from mps in london to birmingham and call it hs2
@misterthegeoff9767
@misterthegeoff9767 27 днів тому
I know someone who managed to knock down a listed building and rebuild it in the name of "repairing" it. He held the roof up with jacks, knocked the walls down, re-dug the foundations and re-used the bricks to build new walls, then took the jacks away and rebuilt the roof. In the end the building was about a foot larger in every dimension and not a single part of it was original except the reclaimed bricks. As for how he managed it? He lived next to a pub and every time the buildings inspector came round he bought him a pub lunch and a couple of drinks before taking him to see the latest developments. I wouldn't recommend that as a strategy but somehow it worked for him.
@RandomInternet
@RandomInternet 23 дні тому
@@misterthegeoff9767 if a listed building is structurally unsound you can get permission to do that openly as long as you build it to look like the original. you do need lots and lots of paperwork for each listed feature. so sounds like the inspector was letting them off without the costly paperwork but it is a job they do allow in certain conditions
@garysmith9321
@garysmith9321 5 місяців тому
I would mention that Scotland does have a Hutting policy (see 1,000 huts campaign). A hut is: * A simple building used intermittently as recreational accommodation (i.e. not a principal residence) * having an internal floor area of no more than 30m2 * constructed from low impact materials; generally not connected to mains water, electricity or sewerage * and built in such a way that it is removable with little or no trace at the end of its life. It may be of interest to some.
@offgridpath
@offgridpath 5 місяців тому
Thanks a lot for that! I've actually included it in my book - it's such a great policy and scotland seems ahead of the game (as well as wales too)
@roughwalkers
@roughwalkers Місяць тому
Or a boffy 👍
@JG-fv9bv
@JG-fv9bv Місяць тому
Its amazing how the big corporztions and the Politicians they own can build and develop , demolish anything anywhere they want and ignore the many planning rights/barriers us plebbs have to abide by
@tonyclack5901
@tonyclack5901 3 місяці тому
I have just bought 60 acres. I put a 28 day notice into the council planners. They came back to us requiring full plans of the proposed barn, which we are having done as I post this comment. I assume they cannot deny the application due to permitted developement rules. We have a motorhome on site which we are finishing off to live in, albeit until we can site a static caravan, however we have just recieved a letter from the planning council after someone has complained, accusing us of living in the motorhome which we are not. Our planning consultant sugested when we have planning permission for the barn that we make an application to the council planners for a temporary dwelling. When permission is obtained for the barn, it would appear we can just move a static caravan on site and live in it for 3 years whilst building the barn and running our agricultural business. We are already farming breeding pigs and a herd of some 200 sheep, which have started lambing. As we the people have no say or control over what new laws are created, I find it very sad that people who have a respect and kinship with the land and nature and who provide life sustaining food for themselves and other people, have to jump through all these hoops and stress, when the biggest blots on the landscape, wind turbines and solar farms get the go ahead without any hassle.
@oliroy
@oliroy Місяць тому
How sad does someone have to be to complain about someone living in a motorhome on their own land. I fucking hate the UK.
@Earthismadeoflayers
@Earthismadeoflayers Місяць тому
Sounds like you may want to either have a talk with that neighbour or start recording their antics for an anti harassment order in future incase they turn out to be a nutter.
@darrelltregear756
@darrelltregear756 Місяць тому
Remember you will own nothing and be happy
@jameseden9380
@jameseden9380 28 днів тому
You had me up until the wind farms and solar panels. The world will burn...
@gravy123able
@gravy123able 13 днів тому
Never understood people complaining about what others do on their own property,
@quattropower34
@quattropower34 18 днів тому
Very concise and well delivered video, very informative.
@ladylexiea3084
@ladylexiea3084 3 місяці тому
This is really helpful, thank you. Also lots of info in the comments. Splendid
@johnhughes6250
@johnhughes6250 5 днів тому
Thank you! Just thanks! Amazing watch!!!
@bennyhawkins1230
@bennyhawkins1230 19 днів тому
Excellent Information. Very concise and easy to follow. Thank you.
@WingsofTimeCrafts
@WingsofTimeCrafts 22 години тому
A great insight into the ins and outs.. thank you
@gentlelentilsgreenlife.
@gentlelentilsgreenlife. Місяць тому
this is such a great video thanks for sharing it. I'm starting my journey to go off grid full time but its not easy
@PBz420
@PBz420 5 місяців тому
YOU ARE A LEGEND BUDDY!
@offgridpath
@offgridpath 5 місяців тому
Well that's just bloody lovely! Thanks!!!
@swhiting100
@swhiting100 2 місяці тому
This is so good. Thank you.
@doogee6157
@doogee6157 Місяць тому
Great up to date advice.
@chrischristofis8501
@chrischristofis8501 6 місяців тому
A very well made video and I recommend your book, may i offer some additional info speaking as an environmental planning consultant 1) there are strict rules about the use of water from a borehole, be aware of this, it can be pricy to have a risk assessmnlent and sampling done to be compliant 2) when you eventually go for retrospective planning, how water , foul water and sewage are managed will be a factor to get permission, in many areas your soakaway may be disallowed, ( also check with the Environment Agency on nitrate vulnurable zones) if yiu are thinking of a composting toilet 3) local authorty areas will have precedence, has someone sucessfully used the 10 year rule in that area?, this is a massive boost for getting permission your consultant when you apply will want this they love precedence. In summary if you are in any way risking polluting the land or adjacent land you will likely be turned down, they may insist you burn smokeless fuel in some areas, the more environmetaly friendly you are the better when it comes to planning permission and precedence is king. A last word you did touch on the best was to quickly gain an off grid dwelling when you talked about Agricultural/Forrestry permitted development, yea building a barn but also if you make charcoal you NEED to live on the land to watch the burner 😉
@offgridpath
@offgridpath 5 місяців тому
Thanks so much for your comment and kind words. This is really valuable knowledge and a greatly appreciate it. I hope that people watching this video can read this comment for some extra info. Also loving the charcoal burner tip!!! Really appreciate your support and watching the video!
@nickcoppard5335
@nickcoppard5335 29 днів тому
10 year rule ? Surely you mean 4 year rule ? 10 year is for commercial certificate
@nickcoppard5335
@nickcoppard5335 29 днів тому
28 day rule for unrelated use ! Split your land apply for multiple agricultural holding numbers each one gets 28 days
@gokottafilm1049
@gokottafilm1049 6 місяців тому
This is really insightful, thanks for taking the time to make it
@offgridpath
@offgridpath 6 місяців тому
Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for the comment and thanks for watching
@edie_perty
@edie_perty 6 місяців тому
So precious. Congratulations and welcome home Santi.
@offgridpath
@offgridpath 6 місяців тому
Thank you! 🤗
@ninaarcher9206
@ninaarcher9206 6 місяців тому
Thank you for making this very complicated subject much more easy to understand, lots of really interesting bits of information here.
@offgridpath
@offgridpath 6 місяців тому
Glad it was helpful! Thanks for the comment and thanks for watching
@chrisyateswebdev
@chrisyateswebdev 24 дні тому
As an ex deal sourcer / land agent I love how much information you provide in your videos. Kudos !
@user-um3nx6pq5l
@user-um3nx6pq5l 14 днів тому
Thank you for sharing your knowledge. I have a six acre redundant nursery that closed years ago because the land was of poor quality and could not grow sufficient produce. The remnants of buildings are still there but i have been denied planning of any sort on a number of different occasions, even when the local authority were unable to demonstrate sufficient building as per the NPPF. The owner of the land adjacent to mine applied and was given permission to convert stables to a dwelling. The stables were not easily accessible so a further application was submitted to demolish the stables, combine the the footprint with another building, also to be demolished, and erect a new building next to the road, and got this approved. No doubt in my mind a brown envelope passed between applicant and LPA. They have been proven to be bent in the past.
@user-ql2in6bm4p
@user-ql2in6bm4p 28 днів тому
This is a great video. Thank you.
@BytorFAO
@BytorFAO 6 місяців тому
Amazing job you must be really proud of yourselves
@offgridpath
@offgridpath 6 місяців тому
Thanks so much! I really appreciate that, we're definitely happy with the result and loving life. Very lucky indeed
@mags5761
@mags5761 5 місяців тому
Truly superb video, many thanks
@offgridpath
@offgridpath 5 місяців тому
You're very welcome! Thanks for watching!
@stevehughes7224
@stevehughes7224 4 місяці тому
Really informative video & I've bought your book
@naughtysquirrelontheroad1542
@naughtysquirrelontheroad1542 5 місяців тому
Really helpful and informative! Thanks so much 😁
@offgridpath
@offgridpath 5 місяців тому
You're very welcome and glad you found it helpful!
@Gasher82nd
@Gasher82nd Місяць тому
Thanks for that i found that very interesting.
@690Lighthouse
@690Lighthouse Місяць тому
Great help, many thanks.
@keithgarth1483
@keithgarth1483 5 місяців тому
Good video.. Knowledge is power. Thanks.
@offgridpath
@offgridpath 5 місяців тому
Thanks so much and glad you enjoyed it!
@darrellbailey3828
@darrellbailey3828 6 місяців тому
Thanks for this great video Ben. A lot of hard work and knowledge has gone into this and it just goes to show how greedy landowners down throughout history have sought to make topics like this which are fundamental to living are made so difficult to navigate. I live in Southampton, close to the New Forest and often say to people that the land surely belongs to the people especially if it is a national park. Theres so many areas you can't even walk through it just seems that massive control is at play. Thanks for this, it's something I'd love to do but I'm certain I'll never experience. I love to hear about people following all these loopholes and making it to the other side of permitted development. Thanks for your time and information I believe this is a subject that will become much more important in the future as our economy collapses as its sure to. I've just randomly been fed this by the platform and will certainly look at your other stuff. Maybe try to reach out to the great Richard Vobes for more public awareness of this really important subject; i believe he's trying to do the same with his partner Julia. Lovely people and a great advert for your channel. Good luck with your project from Southampton
@offgridpath
@offgridpath 6 місяців тому
Thanks a lot for your kind words, that's greatly appreciated. I definitely agree with you, I think the future is very uncertain and almost definitely going to be turbulent both economically and from an environmental point of view. It's a sad state of affairs and for me it's about living a self reliant lifestyle as possible. I'm really glad you enjoyed the video. Thanks for the comment and thanks for the support!
@thomasholroyd2634
@thomasholroyd2634 2 місяці тому
Someone I know bought land and was refused planning permission, so he opened it as a small campsite and built himself into the community. When he went for planning permission again 4 or 5 years later he said it was to enable him to carry on running the campsite and his planning permission was approved. It is still a registered company/campsite but he is just really bad at getting customers.
@regburgundy8701
@regburgundy8701 Місяць тому
Thank you 🙏🏻
@juliapigworthy
@juliapigworthy 6 місяців тому
The only way we can sideline the system is if the majority of homeowners can find legal ways to be as close to self-sufficient in terms of solar power, log-burning, water harvesting, growing vegetables and eggs, as possible.
@offgridpath
@offgridpath 6 місяців тому
Very true. I don't know why anyone wouldn't want to do that but everyone is different i guess
@phoenixkali
@phoenixkali 6 місяців тому
If there was a war on I'm sure it would take off In WWII every front lawn was turned into an allotment, let's bring victory gardens back!
@urbansurvivor360
@urbansurvivor360 5 місяців тому
Definitely agree and council tenants inwhich I am I actually started homesteading and finding ways to disregard grid power. I am furious at System and doing whatever I can to avoid participating
@GWAYGWAY1
@GWAYGWAY1 2 місяці тому
@@phoenixkali Very good point; maybe a silver lining for the WW3 they seem to want…….
@HAL-1984
@HAL-1984 Місяць тому
They are now introducing new bureaucracy to prevent people from keeping chickens at home under the guise of bird flu.
@tkffin
@tkffin 25 днів тому
Brilliant video. Years ago a friends family in a very affluent area sold his house but kept the 30 acres between it other houses Stuck sheep and barns an a luxury static. Few yrs later he built a house I was young never really understood but know I do.
@robertlee6479
@robertlee6479 Місяць тому
Yes, is called field to farm as I have the book.
@derealovesurvival7549
@derealovesurvival7549 29 днів тому
Thanks for sharing atb
@CFreeJ
@CFreeJ 4 місяці тому
Excellent video
@offgridpath
@offgridpath 4 місяці тому
Thanks and thanks for watching!
@williamwyn
@williamwyn 29 днів тому
This takes stealth camping to another level :D
@robertjones1242
@robertjones1242 8 днів тому
Class! 😂
@phooichunlau7827
@phooichunlau7827 5 місяців тому
Thanks for interesting video❤
@offgridpath
@offgridpath 5 місяців тому
You're very welcome, thanks for watching!
@BennyBen9
@BennyBen9 6 місяців тому
That was brilliant. Thankyou. Very informative . I've just brought your book. It's so wrong that it's so hard to live off grid
@offgridpath
@offgridpath 6 місяців тому
Really appreciate that! Thank you!! I really hope you enjoy the book and thanks for your support!
@roscoeswrld5953
@roscoeswrld5953 2 місяці тому
it’s because they want to enslave you
@DJ-uk5mm
@DJ-uk5mm 5 місяців тому
30:58 “no bigger than 3 m high” actually tha act says 3.3 m internal height to ceiling… there is no ruling on external height .. also. 5 years is still possibly Also the “financial test” rule of thumb is c £18k or what is considered the minimum wage You don’t have to own all the land. You could buy 1 acre and rent the 11.5 acres nearby. Also I’ve found the council supportive once you have demonstrated that you are genuinely are trying to develop an agricultural smallholding or farm
@offgridpath
@offgridpath 5 місяців тому
Awesome! Thank you so much for clearing that up and it sounds like you have done it our going through that process. Really appreciate the info and thanks for watching!
@PenelopetheTruck
@PenelopetheTruck 4 місяці тому
Hey 👋 Thanks for the insight, this is a great help and we will be purchasing your recent book. We started our off grid sustainability journey a few years ago and built an off grid expedition truck to go travelling, we sold our bricks and mortar to fund the travels and to enable us to get away from the system. After travelling for 14 months we are back in Blighty and are now embarking on the next stage of our eco journey and that's to buy land and build an eco container dwelling. It's unbelievable what you need to do to enable you to live life off the system & off grid and in an environmental friendly way! We are shocked at the lengths that you need to go to to be legit. If you've got plenty of money then the world is your oyster, it's such a shame we have so much crazy bureaucracy and red tape. Anyway thanks again for the hard work that you've put into this, it'll benefit many who wish to embark on their journey and also thanks to some of the commenters below that have also given some really helpful information. All the best C&K
@offgridpath
@offgridpath 4 місяці тому
Thanks a lot and glad you enjoyed the video. You're right it is a shame about the financial situation. Money definitely makes things easier if you have lots of it! Thanks for the comment and thanks for the support!
@joygallavan6790
@joygallavan6790 2 місяці тому
you have almost zero chance of buying agricultural land (most rural land in the UK) and getting change of use to residential which you will need of you want to stay on the land for more that 28 days a year,You will need a planning agent who specialises in change of use planning,but almost all planning departments will refuse container builds,you really are better off buying a dwelling with land Going off grid in the Uk is about being more "in the system" you will need alot of contact with authorities,Im off grid and in constant contact with the local council, Im also not at all "eco" I run a petrol genny as I cant afford much solar or the massive kit needed for storage plus Im in woodland under a TPO so all the trees give us almost total shade,there is a big difference between the off grid dream and reality,I think especially in the UK
@peters6405
@peters6405 6 місяців тому
Near to me there is a small plant nursery that mainly sells commercially to other retailers but he also is opened to the public a few days a week, on these grounds he was able to get planning permission for a dwelling on horticultural land which may only just be 5 hectares possible less. He had a limit on the hight he could build but got around that issue by lowering the level of the foundations so the land at the back of his house is quite a bit higher than the front which is level with the adjoining road and having a dormer bungalow. He can not sell the house or business separately and if the business finishes trading from the site the dwelling has to be demolished which is different to some other properties in our rural area that are no longer directly involved with agricultural business but can only be occupied by someone who is or has worked in the agriculture, horticultural or forestry industry.
@offgridpath
@offgridpath 6 місяців тому
Thanks for the comment. That's really interesting. I haven't heard of that before but really love that it has worked for them. I love that ingenuity you mentioned about lowering the level of the foundations to maximise the internal space. I'm sure there is a chance to change the use of it in the future. I would imaging the planning authorities would be pretty heavy with the conditions to begin with but i'm sure a few tweaks to the business plan etc may allow some changes to those conditions in the future. Thanks for watching and thanks for the support
@mohammedharoon8627
@mohammedharoon8627 6 місяців тому
I subscribed after watching thank you for info
@offgridpath
@offgridpath 6 місяців тому
You're most welcome and thanks for your support!
@tonymarriott8480
@tonymarriott8480 29 днів тому
According to the 1961 caravan act it's 4 years for caravans if your living in them the same as houses. But do believe there both 10 years now, but it was 4 years for caravans.
@happyglampers9053
@happyglampers9053 6 місяців тому
Thank you for sharing this insight. We started looking for a spot to live 4 years ago. At that time, there few helpful utube channels. Those you mention are very sound. If I may add that ‘The Off Grid Family’ and ‘Kris Harbour’ are also very well respected. David Ackerman’s book is very good. Sadly the forum he discusses is now defunct. Still a very informative read. Best Wishes🙏👏👍
@livingoffgridinscotland
@livingoffgridinscotland 6 місяців тому
I believe the field to farm book is now no longer available…..
@offgridpath
@offgridpath 6 місяців тому
Thanks for watching and for your kind comment. I'll check out those channels, I appreciate the recommendation. I hope you managed to find some land and get settled on it.
@offgridpath
@offgridpath 6 місяців тому
Ahh that's such a shame - maybe he'll release it again at some point hopefully.
@livingoffgridinscotland
@livingoffgridinscotland 6 місяців тому
@@offgridpath I’ve tried contacting the author a few times so not sure what’s happened…
@Dartmoorreachalpacafarm
@Dartmoorreachalpacafarm 2 місяці тому
Great site guys. We are soon to build and document our straw bales house build on UKposts. 😊
@chiselmetimbers7026
@chiselmetimbers7026 6 місяців тому
Fantastic video mate, I've read the book also just need to get the ball rolling. I've put a link to your video on a couple different forums I follow as it's a question that comes up often. So if you get a spike in views you know why! Lol.
@offgridpath
@offgridpath 6 місяців тому
Ahh that's amazing and greatly appreciated! Thanks for watching the video and for your kind comments. I hope the book came in helpful. Thanks so much for your support!
@Narrowboat.and.offgrid.living
@Narrowboat.and.offgrid.living 5 місяців тому
New sub here Just bought your book looking foward to learn about off grid living and rules and regs
@offgridpath
@offgridpath 5 місяців тому
Thanks a lot and really appreciate your support! I hope you enjoy the book and let me know if you have any questions
@zodzod9378
@zodzod9378 6 місяців тому
Very informative got rid of those silly myths we Know great vlog and well presented i know a lot of work went in to this vlog well done ! Little john from chichester
@offgridpath
@offgridpath 6 місяців тому
Glad you enjoyed it Little John. Really appreciate your support and comment as always. Thanks!
@JennyLuscombeEFT
@JennyLuscombeEFT 6 місяців тому
Thank you 🤍🙏
@offgridpath
@offgridpath 6 місяців тому
You're most welcome, thanks for the comment!
@comicsgatekeeper9746
@comicsgatekeeper9746 6 місяців тому
There was an episode of grand designs that dealt with the 65% self sufficiency rule. Obviously the house building was the main focus of the episode.
@offgridpath
@offgridpath 6 місяців тому
Hmmm, i'm not familiar with that but it very much sounds like the One Planet Development where the house and land needs to provide 65% of your needs. Without seeing the episode I can't be totally sure but i'd bet that the house is in Wales and it comes under the One Planet Development. Thanks for watching and thanks for your comment
@lemonladyYT
@lemonladyYT 5 місяців тому
I paused the video at that timestamp to read the comments and see if anyone else had mentioned this. It was featured by Ben Fogle in his New Lives in the Wild series and a revisit. Yes, it's Wales and One Planet Development applied. On the first programme they had been living there for a couple of years and were under extreme pressure with the monitoring and reporting. It is critical because (and my reason for commenting) they absolutely would have been kicked off the land if ALL parameters were not met by the set date. That includes completely clearing the land of ALL signs of occupation. Thankfully, on Ben's return visit, they were able to report success. They are both fascinating episodes and the creativity, ingenuity and resourcefulness of this couple are outstanding. They were both previously veterinarians. The episodes are: Season 13, Ep 1 and Season 14, Ep 2 Ben Fogle: New Lives in the Wild. Wales Mountainside: The Watkinson Family. They are online: matthewwatkinson.wixsite.com/beeviewfarm
@BethyS13
@BethyS13 6 місяців тому
This is a fascinating video, and the comments are also very interesting. Im not sure if you have already done something on this but i wonder how it would work on land already permitted for residential use e.g. an old run down house (not listed grade etc) if you built a small sustainable building on the land within the stipulations of shed/summerhouse/cabin which fall under the need of planning permission. Could you then knock down the house and work the land, living in the cabin? I also want to say I love your positive attitude both in the video and in your replies to comments. You welcome new knowledge and support people getting along and community. Sometimes to 'fight' a point can be standoffish and make a point go unheard - we can learn and educate each other without name calling and accusations. I particularly love your message to get along with local community - people are social creatures and there is no harm in getting on with your neighbours (quite the opposite in fact 😊) and getting along with your postie is a wonderful thing in many ways. Thank you kindly
@offgridpath
@offgridpath 6 місяців тому
So firstly, on the second part of your comment, thank you so so much. That's a really lovely thing to say and especially go out of your way to comment on it. I really do appreciate that! On your first point, i completely see where you are coming from. I can't see it being an issue but it would involve going down the planning route but I can't see there being a problem. Essentially what you are doing is replacing the property that is already there (perhaps in a different location). I guess some would argue that it's not the most financially wise move because generally people value traditional houses over cabins. I would want to live in a cabin over a house any day. I think essentially if you're buying land that is already classed for residential use then there is very little you couldn't do. Unfortunately this issue with that land is it is always the most expensive. Thank you for taking the time to comment and thanks for your support!
@nic5779
@nic5779 Місяць тому
quick note about nieboures taking pictures and reporting the 28 day rule breaches, if they take pictures more than once or twice this comes under stalking laws, provided you report it the council can not use these images as evidence.
@happygilmorides7353
@happygilmorides7353 16 днів тому
That's not true. Taking the pictures are for a lawful reason therefore doesn't constitute harassment and defo not stalking
@livershot940
@livershot940 5 місяців тому
Absolutely fantastic content. Could you do one on Northern Ireland. I would be very interested to learn of the differences in legislation, especially the field to farm concept.
@offgridpath
@offgridpath 5 місяців тому
Thanks so much!!! Funnily enough, I have just finished my second book which covers the whole of the UK including Northern Ireland - it will be coming out on the 3rd December!
@livershot940
@livershot940 5 місяців тому
Excellent, I shall be purchasing that.
@auroradyz391
@auroradyz391 6 місяців тому
I know literally hundreds of people who’d give their right arm to live off grid, me included. Seems like the 12.5 acre option would be the best and cause the least headaches. After a quick google however, it looks like we would need a cool million so that’s that idea out of the window! Typical irony isn’t it…those that actually need to live off grid to survive have no money so have no hope of ever doing it. Trapped!
@offgridpath
@offgridpath 6 місяців тому
You have a very good point! It really comes down to compromise because there is certainly land in england over 12.5 acres that you can pick up for less than £50k. But you still need the money, there's no getting around that. We're in the same position, we couldn't afford land and have luckily found a farm that we could live on and we pay rent. Thanks for your comment it's greatly appreciated!
@phoenixkali
@phoenixkali 6 місяців тому
That's the price of living in the UK. I and many others moved to Ireland to off grid because plenty of land low value but they're catching on a putting new clauses and grants for updos on old hovels with a bit of land which pushes up wholesale price by 70k. And vacant dwellings now being charged property tax, there's plenty of sellers but they ask way too much on the "grant access" proviso which which will house very liveable but unoff-griddable. Don't go there.
@janebaker966
@janebaker966 3 місяці тому
That is the whole point of The System. Freedom is not an Option.
@georgeton4991
@georgeton4991 3 місяці тому
@@janebaker966 EXACTLY
@GWAYGWAY1
@GWAYGWAY1 2 місяці тому
@auroradyz391 Agricultural land averages £10,000 per acre, so £120,000 would do……
@dandydan9677
@dandydan9677 6 місяців тому
This video has helped me understand a few things as I'm looking into a simpler lifestyle. One thing i would say, for anyone looking at getting a mortgage, atleast from what i found out, the deposits dont work like houses and you'll need somewhere between 25%-75% deposit. I looked at some land near the peak district and was told i would need atleast 100k in cash. Maybe i wasnt asking the right questions at the time but thats what i found from my lines anyway, hope it helps someone.
@offgridpath
@offgridpath 5 місяців тому
Thanks for the comment and i'm glad you enjoyed the video. That's interesting because as far as I was aware, you couldn't get a mortgage on land except from a few very specific providers. But it would be great if you could! Yes, there's no way around the money side though unfortunately - whichever way you look at it, it's going to be an expensive endeavour.
@joygallavan6790
@joygallavan6790 2 місяці тому
please dont even think of buying land to live on anywhere near a national park an AONB or even agricultural land if you dont want to run an agricultural business
@u2kjib4cjkqn
@u2kjib4cjkqn Місяць тому
Become the local authority on the AP1 form
@youtubeyoutube936
@youtubeyoutube936 6 місяців тому
The planning system is straight forward no dwellings outside defined settlements unless required for a genuine essential agricultural need is the basic. Essentially people want to live off grid but only if the land around them is protected from someone else turning up and doing the same
@offgridpath
@offgridpath 6 місяців тому
This is true but there are certainly ways to do it without the agricultural need but with huge risk
@youtubeyoutube936
@youtubeyoutube936 5 місяців тому
Batheinchampagne. So you wanted a house in the countryside or connected to agriculture. What makes your desire more important than Jo blogs who might want the same but is a plumber? It’s pretty straightforward, dwellings in the countryside are restricted to an essential horticultural agricultural or forestry need.
@janebaker966
@janebaker966 3 місяці тому
I've often wondered and with some amusement how it would go down if another family put a shed/cabin/house in a plot adjacent to an off grid dweller with intentions to do similar. Would the Planning Laws suddenly become much more relevant. Maybe the two families would become best pals in a Little House On The Prairies cutesy way. Maybe they'd swap veggies and kill each others fatted pig. Or would they get on each other's nerves. Would one family be tidy and well organized and the other have old engine bits and rusty corrugated iron sheets all over the place? And then maybe a third family would be attracted,in that way people always sit by your table in a previously empty cafe,suddenly youve got a village,a good place to raise kids they say. Now if all you three settler families are white British ...........what if you three families have brown skin and are not from a british isles ethnicity. That has never happened yet and it seems unlikely but,does that feel different. How can you be a SETTLER and create a SETTLEMENT in an already settled and populated land. Maybe there's someone we can ask? I'm just saying asking questions,extrapolating. Anyway you have to get the money together first and buy some land,and land is expensive. How annoying is it to work and save hard for 40 years,finally buy that plot in the country then get a new housing estate or a link road driven past your boundary,suburbanising your rustic dream. People think it is Hunting, Trapping and even commercial Farming that eliminates WildLife. It's not. It is Suburbanisation that the Faeries fler from. Dull,prosaic tedious and Banal.
@cormchm2853
@cormchm2853 Місяць тому
@@janebaker966 Where is this you are talking about now? Is it the northwestern European isles?
@DebMaddock
@DebMaddock 6 місяців тому
Brilliant video, very informative. Have you researched how to set up and use a private members club to work outside of the usual rules?
@offgridpath
@offgridpath 6 місяців тому
Thank you for your kind comment. I haven't actually looked into that unless you're referring to a community trust? But i'll check that out. Thanks for the comment!
@RandomInternet
@RandomInternet 23 дні тому
a private members club requires specific sui generis planning consent for change of use outlining all the use's of the site to my knowledge. what had you got in mind?
@LOTEN1977
@LOTEN1977 6 місяців тому
Great video. Also think that "overages" need a mention too; where there's a clause in the contract when the land is sold that dictates the vendor should be paid a large % of the lands new value, if / when it becomes residential.
@offgridpath
@offgridpath 6 місяців тому
That is a very very good point! You're quite right. I look at land regularly and see these coming up more and more these days
@Omlittlebuddha
@Omlittlebuddha 6 місяців тому
I’ve been looking at land and I see this in the small print on the particulars a lot.
@LOTEN1977
@LOTEN1977 6 місяців тому
Seems that any parcel of land that has any kind of access direct from a road, electricity and / or water nearby, is subject to these overage clauses. I don't know why vendors can't just sell and move on. Think it purely down to greed
@tanaarcher3258
@tanaarcher3258 5 місяців тому
Yikes!
@Overworkt
@Overworkt 5 місяців тому
​@@LOTEN1977I think it's heavily pushed by the estate agent. I'd be interested to know if many would drop the overage for the sake of a successful sale.
@andybrown6179
@andybrown6179 6 місяців тому
What a fantastic video, packed full of in-depth information. Thanks for taking the time to make it. I do have a question though. I noticed that you didn’t mention “Woodlands”, was there a reason for that? Because I was thinking about trying to set up in one. Thanks again. Absolutely brilliant 👍
@offgridpath
@offgridpath 6 місяців тому
Thank you for your kind words, it's greatly appreciated! I didn't go into woodland because I don't know enough about it. From what I know, it is possible but a lot harder. Wishing you the best of luck with it all it would be a very cool project indeed. Thanks for watching and thanks for your support
@Bambagustrust
@Bambagustrust 6 місяців тому
No it's not.
@stephencollins9062
@stephencollins9062 5 місяців тому
​@@Bambagustrustwho pissed in your cornflakes?
@Bambagustrust
@Bambagustrust 5 місяців тому
@stephencollins9062 is not a case of who!!
@Bambagustrust
@Bambagustrust 5 місяців тому
@stephencollins9062 Lies are a prejudice against the people. Just bcos you don't realise they are lies. Don't make them facts. The mass psychosis is stronger than ever. People will allow death and allow a mass compartmentalised nation, based on an assumption. The mass retardation is evident everywhere
@lukesalter-ec3hh
@lukesalter-ec3hh 6 місяців тому
Gotta love a gransfors ;)
@offgridpath
@offgridpath 5 місяців тому
Good eye!!! Absolutely! Best of the best!
@bonnielyrae6971
@bonnielyrae6971 4 місяці тому
Anyone considering living off-grid (esp in woodland) should read Tom Barron's book "The New Woodsman"; also Gill Barron's book on Yurts both published by Eggerslack Press. These are people who've lived off-grid for many years and therefore have some invaluable insights.
@offgridpath
@offgridpath 4 місяці тому
Thanks so much for the recommendation and thanks for watching!
@pete_dl1585
@pete_dl1585 2 місяці тому
great summary, thanks. I am curious about the rules on abandoned or ruined properties. My understanding is that if the ruin is not designated a dwelling at the land registry, it is not much different from a green field ?
@TenableVegan
@TenableVegan 6 місяців тому
I'm part of an org that buys up parcels of farmland, we crowdfund & receive donations then bid at auction for the land. Once successful we then turn that land back into wild land so nobody can use it for animal ag ever again. The potential to execute the 4 year rule on this land is obviously there so that those who care for this land can eventually end up with a legit dwelling on a tiny section of it. Currently the people who help with the land either just sleep in a tent or a camper/transit overnight a couple times a month.
@offgridpath
@offgridpath 5 місяців тому
This sounds really really interesting - what is the organisation called? I'd love to look into it. Thanks so much for the comment and thanks for watching
@joygallavan6790
@joygallavan6790 2 місяці тому
thats terrible !! no food being grown on agri land ??!! people have zero chance of using the 4 year rule on this kind of land,if you are selling it using that claim you are ripping people off,any agri land in the Uk can only be stayed on 28 days a year even if you are sleeping in a cardboard box without change of use to residential and that will never be allowed as you could not show you need to live on the land without a farming business,wild land looks after its self,Agricultural land is agricultural land for a very good reason leave it alone!!!!!!
@joygallavan6790
@joygallavan6790 2 місяці тому
My off grid land is very rural in woodland just outside a beautiful tiny village but it is brown field due to it being a historical brick and pot works then used as a re enactment cowboy village, with past planning for recreational use, with all planning conditions breached over 30 years,provable by statutory declarations, with 2 sets of people living in the past on the land paying "rates" You would never be able to tell all this by looking at the land, you have to really do your research using parish records and talk to locals especially the elderly.
@DogBarkBurgerBIRMINGHAM
@DogBarkBurgerBIRMINGHAM Місяць тому
I have land and was contacted by a tiny homes company and they want to put homes on there and they said don’t tell council. My kind of company 😊 legal is a system you have to consent to. We all must choose to not participate. More of us that do it the better.
@phillheth
@phillheth 29 днів тому
You can't just avoid obeying laws by not consenting to them. this is a stupid sovereign citizen idea. like it or not, we are subject to the laws of the land and ultimately they'll be enforced with violence.
@baileyharrison1030
@baileyharrison1030 28 днів тому
If anyone who works in planning ever found out and for whatever reason decided to look at the planning permission on your land (very unlikely I know), you'd be ordered to demolish it all and that sounds like a horrible thing to go through.
@RandomInternet
@RandomInternet 23 дні тому
try telling them you don't consent when they forcefully evict you with twenty goons and the police helping them.....or try telling the judge that and have them laugh at you. unfortunatly , no matter if that argument is good or not, they won't hear it
@DogBarkBurgerBIRMINGHAM
@DogBarkBurgerBIRMINGHAM 21 день тому
@@RandomInternet for that you would need to first not communicate with them. They can’t communicate if they don’t know who you are. Take it from an ex bailiff, i do everything I can to expose the fraud the Uk GOV commit ever since walking away from that job after finding out the fraud. You can even go as far as to say you don’t want to deal with criminals. They won’t challenge that.
@NomadicNight
@NomadicNight 5 місяців тому
I won't be dealing with any authorities like Council Tax, or having a postcode. I'll also be totally hidden away from any neighbours.
@offgridpath
@offgridpath 5 місяців тому
I can't really mention that or encourage it on a video but yes - good on you, loads of people doing it and staying under the radar
@NomadicNight
@NomadicNight 5 місяців тому
@@offgridpath Thanks. I understand. I've had 40 years of stressful life, mostly caused by illness, poverty, and being forced to deal with companies who refuse to do things any other way than their own way, forcing me to comply. I'm about to cut ties with friends and family alike, and live out my senior years in peace, nature, and away from people. Thank you for your informative videos.
@janebaker966
@janebaker966 3 місяці тому
Nowhere in England (can't say for Wales +Scotland,is that remote,even if it looks so superficially. Good luck to you.
@NomadicNight
@NomadicNight 3 місяці тому
@@janebaker966You're wrong. I'm already living proof of how remote it is, because I'm living out in Nature. Perhaps you'd like to call me a liar, since you're such an expert on my life, and you've been to every part of the UK, including every mountain, cave, field and forest ?
@georgeton4991
@georgeton4991 3 місяці тому
@@NomadicNight good on you.
@jonnynoakes9070
@jonnynoakes9070 Місяць тому
Bro how have I not seen you in years and then you pop up on my UKposts 😅😅😅😅 we used to live together in Newquay 😂😂
@izzzzzz6
@izzzzzz6 27 днів тому
I think i might try this on an abandoned mansion
@JohnBK12
@JohnBK12 6 місяців тому
It's great to hear about the different ways you can do it. Sorry if I missed it but did you say the one planet development will be coming to England? Thanks
@offgridpath
@offgridpath 6 місяців тому
Thanks for the comment! It's not currently available in England and Wales but I'm hoping it will come soon. But ultimately it's up to the government so who knows!
@DaleBerry
@DaleBerry 5 місяців тому
Take a shot every time he says “essentially” 😂 great video though - thanks for the brilliant information
@offgridpath
@offgridpath 5 місяців тому
hahaha! Yeah, that's a very good point. I think you'd be pretty smashed in the first 60 seconds! Unfortunately i don't script anything because I just don't have the time and want to get the content out so end up repeating myself a lot! Glad you enjoyed it though and thanks for watching!
@nikk3251
@nikk3251 5 місяців тому
Please do another video on field to farm, thanks ☺
@offgridpath
@offgridpath 5 місяців тому
I'm working on it and i'm also hoping to do a podcast with someone who is actually doing it to give you a real life example! Thanks for watching!
@nikk3251
@nikk3251 5 місяців тому
@@offgridpath Great, thanks! Hope you post your podcast on YT - it's the only social media I do 😊
@lweleven3423
@lweleven3423 Місяць тому
It really shows what a controlled life we have to lead . Frustrating I. Just an out to turn 60 , so on my final run to official retirement I really don’t want to be that poor old man struggling to pay bills so looking for a cheaper life . I have to say you mentioned don’t do a caravan but as it’s on wheels there is no council tax to pay , I know for sure as I won this battle some years ago
@misterthegeoff9767
@misterthegeoff9767 27 днів тому
My Uncle's farm was on green belt land and he had a neighbour who was on the council planning committee and Vetoed everything including legitimate farming stuff like putting up a stable for horses or taking an existing loose gravel parking area and covering it in tarmac. It almost became a game to see how many things we could sneak in under the various loopholes,. My uncle converted an existing barn into a dwelling and lived in it after his divorce, my Dad built an entire factory unit hiding behind a set of greenhouses and got it in under the 10 year rule or some other loophole. It took a very expensive lawyer and a court battle to make it legit but by this point it was worth it to stick two fingers up to the arsehole neighbour. The best part was when my Dad got a visit from Envitronmental Health and the inspector said "I should report this but they refused planning permission for my extension so fork 'em". The neighbouring farm who had to take his stable down started keeping pigs instead so instead of a field full of horses to look at out his window, the council jobsworth had a pig farm with all the associated smells.
@dantheman6698
@dantheman6698 6 місяців тому
i heard that with the 4 and 10 year rule that council tax does not need to be back paid because council tax only applies when its recognized as lawful
@offgridpath
@offgridpath 6 місяців тому
That's a good point, as far as i can tell this really comes down to where you live which is crazy! I know of people on both sides who have had to pay back dated council tax and those who haven't. I think it's best to go on the side of caution and then if you don't have to then it's a massive bonus and you've got some savings!
@user-kd2xo6ru9l
@user-kd2xo6ru9l 6 місяців тому
Su h a helpful video. I have managed to get a little capital and looking at to have my little slice of england with a cabin on it, coming accross so many obstacles and really helps coear thongs up. I thought field to farm might work but 12.5 acres is unafordable unfortunately. I was thinking..... could you buy land, get permission to build a small glamping site, thus bringing money into the area . Then lets say, one of those larger glaming cabins gets rented out to.....yourself, 11 months of the year.
@offgridpath
@offgridpath 6 місяців тому
Thanks for the lovely comment. A great news that you're embarking on getting some land. To be honest with you i'm not entirely sure about the glamping side of things. You could do it under the 60 day rule but that is only for 60 days. If you were wanting 11 months then you'd have to register it as a legitimate campsite and unfortunately i don't know too much about it. It's an interesting question though as that could give you an income and a place to live! I like it!
@armstrongskyview2810
@armstrongskyview2810 28 днів тому
You spoke about the 28 day rule, did it get exstended to 50+ days and it still is or did it revert back to 28 days? Thanks and a very good video
@Dublinireland5
@Dublinireland5 5 місяців тому
There may be as many as 300,000 holiday homes on holiday parks in England most of those holiday parks are eight month licence agreement from the council to the park owner or ten month licence agreement I have a holiday home myself on one of those parks many people live on these holiday parks for eight or 10 months and then they go and live in bed and breakfast or they may go abroad often they are retired people or younger couples that may go back and stay with their parents for a few weeks until the holiday park reopens again only if the council made these holiday 50 weeks a year they could ask for half of the council tax money which would give the councils that are in desperate need more money... The law needs to be changed.. Most holiday homes now are built to residential standard.. I hope this information has been helpful to people
@offgridpath
@offgridpath 5 місяців тому
That is a very very good point - it would also solve a lot of housing problems as well. I think people need to realise that living in a static caravan or similar is plenty enough space for all your needs. Great comment and thanks for the info!
@janebaker966
@janebaker966 3 місяці тому
Yes, people do that. Pleasant way to live for retired folk.
@garethboyd325
@garethboyd325 6 місяців тому
Very useful video. Many thanks. It would have been even more beneficial if you could have included Northern Ireland too.
@offgridpath
@offgridpath 6 місяців тому
Very true, i'm sorry about that. I'm currently working on a second more comprehensive book that includes northern island that will be out in December
@phoenixkali
@phoenixkali 6 місяців тому
Drones. Beware nosy drones. And low flying aircraft. Watch your own plot grow on Google earth over time. I can see my chooks on it.
@phoenixkali
@phoenixkali 6 місяців тому
I think British legislation covers northern Ireland, just a few Tweeks and burps but a good brief will guide you, this info is a great head start!
@katiethompson1674
@katiethompson1674 3 місяці тому
Maybe a stupid question but; what are the rules if you DONT by land that is 12.5 acres and over in size? What are the planning permissions/laws for living on the smaller sized land?
@interestedpart2650
@interestedpart2650 6 місяців тому
Excellent! I wonder if theres an equivalent information Video on doing it in IRELAND? 🇮🇪
@offgridpath
@offgridpath 5 місяців тому
Thanks! I'm not sure if there is but i'm sure it will be incredibly helpful because no doubt there would be some incredible plots in the Ireland!
@Fuzzylove-wn1cd
@Fuzzylove-wn1cd 3 місяці тому
Do you think it would be a problem registering with a Doctor or Inland revenue etc whilst you were waiting out the 4 year rule?
@lukaszwolf2688
@lukaszwolf2688 6 місяців тому
Thank you for sharing all the information and some interesting insights in one video. I noticed you've never mentioned 1000 huts campaign in Scotland, are you familiar with this government project? Do you think it would be possible to join it together with 4 years rule, e.g. apply for a hut, buid it and stay there 4 years then apply for 4 year rule? Any thoughts on that?
@offgridpath
@offgridpath 6 місяців тому
thanks for your comment. Yes, i'm actually currently writing about this for my new book. It's a very good question and the short answer is yes, however that comes with a lot of caveats because it's a huge risk. It really comes down to what area you are in, what the individual districts view is on hutting for one but also off grid living. So ultimately there is a lot of luck involved but you can also mitigate against that a little bit by doing a lot of research and finding out which area in Scotland is most lenient and progressive on people living off grid in that way.
@blueskyalldayeveryday
@blueskyalldayeveryday 5 місяців тому
34:53 exactly
@offgridpath
@offgridpath 5 місяців тому
It's a shame but probably true!
@IOTWVUVWTOI
@IOTWVUVWTOI 24 дні тому
Always wanted a honestead. Ideally a massive old building with a wall all around. Cause yiu wint get planning lermission to do that now
@hackjam3398
@hackjam3398 29 днів тому
I was wondering if you had any information on unregistered land, more specifically unowned and unregistered land?
@Fake-moon-landing.
@Fake-moon-landing. 5 місяців тому
You see developments poping up in the most unlikely places, and you think to yourself the only explanation is bribery and corruption.
@offgridpath
@offgridpath 5 місяців тому
Yeah, unfortunately that's my first thought as well. And then to try and build something in keeping with the land is seen as something completely alien. But a high rise block of flats is no problem
@janebaker966
@janebaker966 3 місяці тому
I got fed up with Grand Designs on seeing how filthy rich people can ignore ALL the planning rules and erect a huge bloody great ugly mansion smack in the middle of an Area of Outstanding Beauty and Huge Historical Significance and ruin the view and the landscape for everyone but themselves because they are in the bloody thing so the only ones who cant see it. They use a loophole in the Planning Laws. You can erect a house in Protected Landscape if it is of significant artistic and cultural merit. So you hire a big name architect,or an up and coming architect,or an architect who is famed for his or her radical designs and they design you a monstrosity that no one in their right mind would ever think of living in as a dwelling but is certainly a radical and unique design. It looks like a Snail Shell,or the Jedi Death Star,or the Monkey House at the Zoo but it works. Your architect explains to the Planning Committee how this radical design exemplifies the future of life in the 21st century and is packed with Zero saving features. So where no one could build a modest little house,or group of cottages,these rich as shit people can erect a monstrosity.
@dalriada842
@dalriada842 29 днів тому
I own a house in an estate, that was once on the edge of the town I live in. I had views over rolling hills. Eventually a building company bought the farmland next to me, to put up an estate. Some of my neighbours kicked up a stink. They thought they had a right to views over land they did not own! I sat quietly in the local planning meeting witnessing their most unedifying sense of entitlement. The council did shake the company down for a lot of money that was supposed to have been spent on local infrastructure and services before giving them permission. That money ended up being spent elsewhere in the county to deal with "deprivation". Perhaps there would be less deprivation if government, on all levels, wasn't seeking to thwart any kind of development. I've seen neighbours complaining to the council over the most ridiculous of issues. On one occasion, I was unable to leave the house for over a month because I was ill. Some rat bag complained to the council that my grass was too long. The council sent me a letter threatening to cut it for me, and send me a bill! We're surrounded by would be Fuhrers. I long to live in a passive house out in the woods somewhere, away from these people. Alas, I lack the funds to do it. Though it sounds as if they would want to 'hunt me' even there. We live in an increasingly authoritarian age.
@ChristosChristophi-er7wi
@ChristosChristophi-er7wi 28 днів тому
I work for my local council and get sent to look at all kinds. You wouldn't believe the sh!t people complain about. Had to go to the local graveyard not long ago to clean up a tiny bit of fur (looked like something bagged a rabbit there) from the edge of a path. Literally a handful of fur. I do wish management would grow a pair and tell people to eff off.
@ColdSpearo
@ColdSpearo Місяць тому
Can you permanently park a large motor home on your land and then use it for 60 days per year, leaving it stored there the rest of the year? Static caravan? Log cabin? Or just tents up and down each time?
@powerdisney
@powerdisney 6 місяців тому
Great info although I live in the Republic of Ireland
@offgridpath
@offgridpath 6 місяців тому
Thank you very much. I'm not sure what the rules are over there unfortunately but i have seen some incredible off grid homes over there so there's definitely ways. Thanks for the comment and support!
@juliestrother167
@juliestrother167 2 місяці тому
Thank you for all of this information, very insightful video. Are you aware of other countries who do allow off grid living and actively support it. I follow a couple in Canada who have constant battles about their access road, a couple in North Idaho who seem to have no issues, and a couple in Texas who have never mentioned any problems with permissions or planning. It's a life I would love to live but think I can only dream of.
@joygallavan6790
@joygallavan6790 2 місяці тому
my daughter lives off grid,on and off,in Portugal,there doesnt seem to be any constraints or if there is they are not enforced if you are respectful and land is really cheap,loads of young people from around the world are building off grid communities there.
@chrisowen4422
@chrisowen4422 5 місяців тому
Great video Ben. Thanks for clarifying a few things and teaching me a little more. 👍 Only one slight mistake(?) I noticed was regarding your section on one planet developement. You mentioned the need to provide 65% of your 'basic needs', but then later stated (37:20) that 65% of your 'income' had to come from the land. Surely if you were producing food, generating renewable energy, spring water, wood rotation etc.. that would make up a massive chunk of your 'basic needs'... Your 'income' financially is a separate issue, surely? Anyway thanks again and really agree with your sentiment..! X
@offgridpath
@offgridpath 5 місяців тому
Hey Chris, thanks for the kind words and thanks for watching! Really appreciate you comment and you raise a very valid point and I think I got that wrong on my end. You're right I don't think i'm correct in saying 65% of your income - I think i just lumped this in with food production etc. So thanks for correcting me on that!
@adamstones6187
@adamstones6187 21 день тому
I really want to reduce my costs of living buy buying or renting a small piece of land and would like to grow my own stuff etc. just put a caravan on and live at a reduced cost but finding these pieces of land is so hard. I've found nothing so far in my local area
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