Lego Investing Is Booming. Here’s How It Works | Niche Markets | WSJ

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Researchers say Lego grows in a similar way to other collectibles, like wine or art, but outperforms them over time.
Lego fans and collectors are buying and selling the plastic toys for profit, and seeing better average returns than for many other assets like stocks, gold and art. Here’s how Lego investing works, and why this lesser known market punches above its weight. Photo illustration: Adam Adada
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@MattApple_
@MattApple_ Рік тому
This piece should have covered how Lego bought Bricklink and effectively took control of its own resale market.
@Morgulvale_
@Morgulvale_ Рік тому
Yep. This is one of the biggest concerns. LEGO are now the biggest player in the second hand market of LEGO...
@HeyJinx
@HeyJinx Рік тому
Ok? And?
@matthewameel1741
@matthewameel1741 Рік тому
Really that is interesting. I'd like to know more about how that is not a conflict of interest...
@square-on-wheels
@square-on-wheels Рік тому
And the Bricks and Minifigs retail stores.
@isaacnaim7206
@isaacnaim7206 Рік тому
@@Morgulvale_ What are the implications of this?
@BrickTsar
@BrickTsar Рік тому
The speculators tend to cause the Lego group to over estimate the demand for sets. Collectors and casual consumers are what grew the hobby. Speculators can ruin it. People see the returns and think they can do the same without knowledge. I’m glad we have people that resale parts and sets. It’s definitely not easy. But I think there are things that can harm the hobby. Never thought I would see a video talking about Lego affordability. Odd way to describe it. Sealed set selling is too annoying for me. I prefer to sell by the piece
@SketchingNinjas
@SketchingNinjas Рік тому
Yeah, it'll be interesting (and sad) if speculators do to Lego what they did to the comic book industry in the mid-90's, with the speculator boom and bust that wrecked the industry.
@suddenbrickproductions
@suddenbrickproductions Рік тому
You mean a bricklink operation?
@PriestessOfSlaanesh
@PriestessOfSlaanesh Рік тому
???? Piece Selling is much more effort . I do both.
@studebricker2845
@studebricker2845 Рік тому
The Lego Group is doing just fine estimating the demand for their sets. Speculators aren't ruining anything.
@Cam-Arts
@Cam-Arts Рік тому
Very good point! If you plan to start any kind of business or trade activity (in any market), you should first thoroughly study business and economics so that you don’t unintentionally hurt the market.
@rionaldy
@rionaldy Рік тому
I loved Lego when I was a kid and always thought I can buy good ones when I grow up. Then when I make my own money, the price of Lego increased dramatically. Then this...
@studebricker2845
@studebricker2845 Рік тому
Most sets are under $100 soooo.....
@digitalrandomart3049
@digitalrandomart3049 Рік тому
Lego increased in price but not dramatically. it was always expensive
@angela_somanythings5670
@angela_somanythings5670 Рік тому
You make over 7% a year!!!
@NaviRyan
@NaviRyan Рік тому
The adult sets prices are insane Lego bowser $350, Lego black panther $450, the new lord of the rings $600!
@studebricker2845
@studebricker2845 Рік тому
@@NaviRyan I mean, most sets are around for two years. So if you can't save up a couple hundred dollars in that timeframe, you probably shouldn't be buying Lego.
@ReidCoffman1
@ReidCoffman1 Рік тому
Biggest lesson of 2022 in the stock market: Nobody knows what is going to happen next, so practice some humility and follow a strategy with a long term edge.
@Rachelschneider03
@Rachelschneider03 Рік тому
Nobody knows anything; You need to create your own process, manage risk, and stick to the plan, through thick or thin, While also continuously learning from mistakes and improving.
@MariusNatt
@MariusNatt Рік тому
@@Rachelschneider03 Nobody knows anything; You need to create your own process, manage risk, and stick to the plan, through thick or thin, While also continuously learning from mistakes and improving.
@ReidCoffman1
@ReidCoffman1 Рік тому
@@AshtonGrace Amy really seems to know her stuff. I found her online-page, read through her resume, educational background, qualifications and it was really impressive. She is a fiduciary who will act in my best interest. So, I booked a session with her.
@ManuelZ22
@ManuelZ22 Рік тому
"Lego Tron" (points to the Voltron set). Today everybody and his grandmother are Lego investors.
@Kyu1LL
@Kyu1LL Рік тому
Then he said TIE fighter and points to a pilot bust lol
@studebricker2845
@studebricker2845 Рік тому
Surprised they didn't do a "take 2" on that LOL
@gonkdroid8279
@gonkdroid8279 Рік тому
@@Kyu1LL Honestly a bit face palm inducing for me, seems like it's much more about the money than the passion for Lego for him
@19turtledog
@19turtledog Рік тому
vol-TRON........ he knew what he was talking about
@19turtledog
@19turtledog Рік тому
@@Kyu1LL it was a tie fighter pilot helmet
@mountandbrick
@mountandbrick Рік тому
Biggest issue by far is people coming into the hobby with none of the love and expecting to just make money and scalp.
@benwalters6084
@benwalters6084 Рік тому
Their mistake is that if they fail, or the price doesn’t appreciate, they’re screwed, but if same happens to me, I’ve just got more legos 😊
@chinchillamdgamer
@chinchillamdgamer Рік тому
Dude that guy intentionally "locks" away sets for years to increase value. Some might say that's an excellent business strategy.... I call it evil. An even further way of scalping tbh. Plus he doesn't do it in a small 1-3 sets, you can see he has MANY MANY sets being stored....
@benwalters6084
@benwalters6084 Рік тому
@@chinchillamdgamer yet you can find most sets on Bricklink for a reasonable price, and you can always part out what isn't available at a reasonable price. Of course you'll always have a few that just balloon in value due to their popularity, unique nature, and limited release, but again, it's a toy, it's not evil.
@Bart-Did-it
@Bart-Did-it Рік тому
@@benwalters6084 in 20 - 20 years time plastic toys will be banned . Your drinking water is fully contaminated with plastic now globally . U.K. drinking water has 100 particles per pint . After that Lego will have to make metal or biodegradable toys or wood and they will die like the rest of the high street. Then Lego Will he worth 100 times is current value nuff said . This is already in motion .
@benwalters6084
@benwalters6084 Рік тому
@@Bart-Did-it I live in America, not a nanny state. I might die of cancer but at least i'll have my fun bricks.
@Brickfilmer125
@Brickfilmer125 Рік тому
Knowing how to spot the set and knowing when to sell it is really key. I think it's a great hobby to make a little extra money on the side, but should really not be taken as a serious method of investment
@russellrivero6356
@russellrivero6356 Рік тому
That’s what I agree with as well. I use LEGO investing to pay for my hobby’s on the side. Nothing more than that.
@truecrimejungle
@truecrimejungle 26 днів тому
100%. Curious to see how lego investing works in the future - I know sets still go up...but I don't think it's like it used to be - we all opened our lego as kids - thats why it's so valuable now, not many people invested or understood it's potential...Today, half the lego sets bought are by investors...It won't have the same future value as it did, imo. Alot of "investors" are basically just black market "retailers" lol because you really need to economy of scale to make decent money.
@BlackringIII
@BlackringIII Рік тому
What I love about Lego is their ability to meet demand, we've never had significant problems with scalpers while sets were in production.
@mobiusbelts3607
@mobiusbelts3607 Місяць тому
What do you call significant?
@bricked2343
@bricked2343 Рік тому
It’s a really good investment for people who actually like to open and play with them. I buy most of the big sets, open them, build them with my kids, play with them, then sell them a couple of years later when my kids are sick of them. Even used, you make a huge profit, especially if you can sell locally and avoid shipping. The huge earnings are a happy byproduct of actually enjoying the set for legitimate play collectors. I have made thousands all while actually enjoying the product.
@champstation143
@champstation143 Рік тому
Thanks mate for your smart words! I have tons of bigger sets and none are sealed, all build standing around collecting (just a little) dust.
@MistaTofMaine
@MistaTofMaine Рік тому
Agreed, they hold their value. Held onto all ones had as a kid then passed on to my kid. Value wise apparently worth more now than when they were purchased.
@tefnutofhoney2832
@tefnutofhoney2832 4 місяці тому
This, exactly. The investments only worth it if youre not only doing it for financial gain
@tylervelasquez5639
@tylervelasquez5639 Рік тому
Correction, she said like wine, no no, you can still sell it open because some like just wanna build but not pay the cost of new or go into lego trade in shop!
@kingkyrgios
@kingkyrgios Рік тому
Yep. Even used Legos can be resold - literally the best product ever created
@explorer4734
@explorer4734 Рік тому
I have a shop in my nearest city that sells used and brand new retired/new sets! I recently sold my ninjago city and ninjago city docks sets to them which shows there is still a market for used sets!
@jaikavi5464
@jaikavi5464 Рік тому
You’re right, that was a bad example she gave. No one wants an open bottle of wine. But an open set of Lego can fetch a great price if complete
@kylear6120
@kylear6120 Рік тому
Ive sold used sets for a decent return. I save the box instructions and every piece. That way it still feels like new
@superlbc
@superlbc Рік тому
Yeah, it doesn't seem she the expert she portrays herself to be...
@ferdatuyanik5428
@ferdatuyanik5428 Рік тому
He's so happy about the Recession coming in, like he's super excited to be witnessing it.
@Motorsportsgeek
@Motorsportsgeek Рік тому
People saying "coming in" are special, we've been in a recession for quite a bit now..
@Nitrotix1
@Nitrotix1 Рік тому
We've been in an artificial recession for like 3 years.
@Motorsportsgeek
@Motorsportsgeek Рік тому
@@Nitrotix1 That's not true, 3 years ago the market was as high as it ever was and everyone was sure it was going to keep going up like that which clearly, it didn't
@Nitrotix1
@Nitrotix1 Рік тому
I was refering to the start of the "pandemic", so 2 years and 9 months. Yes, the economy was going in a good direction prior to that, probably why desperate measures were resorted to.
@nickh2053
@nickh2053 Рік тому
Be fearful when others are greedy, and greedy when others are fearful. Economic downturns SHOULD get you excited because they’re opportunities to buy assets at a discount.
@matthewtschetter1953
@matthewtschetter1953 Рік тому
I've been collecting Legos for over 10 years. You will NEVER see a Lego set decrease in value especially Lego star wars. The community is massive and all the sets are interactive. I'll be playing with Lego the rest of my life
@lifeisshort.stopwastingyou9600
@lifeisshort.stopwastingyou9600 Рік тому
whaaatt??? star wars is the most completely boring line of them all.. boring theme, boring colors. i've been collecting legos longer than you and i never bought a star wars on purpose
@jacobb1316
@jacobb1316 Рік тому
I guess you are not a fan of Star Wars and neither am I but that doesn’t take away that there are a lot of people interested in Star Wars
@nate2933
@nate2933 Рік тому
@@lifeisshort.stopwastingyou9600 you have no rate
@avaviel
@avaviel Рік тому
Even after the set is opened and used it retains value? Aka kept together and built following instructions, with the instructions.
@matthewtschetter1953
@matthewtschetter1953 Рік тому
@@avaviel it's more valuable sealed, but opened and completed sets will sell AT LEAST retail price. Minifigures especially hold their value.
@katherinelangford981
@katherinelangford981 Рік тому
I considered doing this a while back when buying sets to build myself. One to build, one to sit on and sell later. I decided just to buy myself more sets to build. No regrets.
@chinchillamdgamer
@chinchillamdgamer Рік тому
Thanks for not being extra evil like him. Storing MANY sets for MANY years just to increase the value sounds a little too greedy. Isn't this what the diamond market did to us all to a large scale? And he's got so many!!!!
@Mnassify
@Mnassify Рік тому
This is the way 👍🏻
@rileymims1878
@rileymims1878 6 місяців тому
My thoughts exactly! I considered getting into LEGO investing but their are so many sets I want for my personal collection so why not use the money to get awesome sets for me to enjoy personally!
@No_Life_Alex
@No_Life_Alex Рік тому
buying products with the intent of flipping them for a profit: scalping buying legos with the intent of flipping them for a profit: investor makes sense to me
@spaceygnat19908
@spaceygnat19908 Рік тому
Scalping is buying something that in high demand now and selling it for a mark up price Investing is buying something that might have a high demand in the future. I thibk you forgot the part where it can take years to see a profit.
@stevesherwood2944
@stevesherwood2944 9 місяців тому
The concept of supply and demand has existed since the dawn of time. Some people invest in cars, or wine, art, watches, antiques, toys, or a million other possibilities. Are they all scalpers and spoiling the fun for everyone else? Of course not. Rare items increasing in value is an economic principle that's been around forever. If you didn't get around to buying something when it was readily available, why would you expect to get it for the same price when it's no longer on the market? People will always pay a premium for something that is rare. Lego is no exception, so why do some people expect it to be any different to any other product or commodity?
@basehead617
@basehead617 Рік тому
The good thing about Lego is that unlike mechanical watches or something, you CAN get the sets new when they come out without much trouble.. they manufacture enough of them.
@patgilroy7627
@patgilroy7627 Рік тому
It’s sad really. I respect those who take their time to do all of this, but as someone who loves to simply BUILD and display them, I feel a bit of emptiness when all anybody wants to talk about is how much they’re worth..
@DoughboyDoc
@DoughboyDoc 8 місяців тому
i personally have certain pieces and figures i know i won’t ever let go of, i had a huge collection of lotr and hobbit and after those skyrocketed , since i had no interest in the theme anymore, a payday felt a lot better than keeping some plastic in a box in the garage
@stevesherwood2944
@stevesherwood2944 9 місяців тому
The term 'scalpers' is meant for people that buy things like music concert tickets with no intention of going - tickets with a very limited supply, for one venue, on one specific date. Whereas Lego sets are on the shelves for anything between 1 and 5 years, and are available online and in stores worldwide. So if someone wants to buy 10 identical sets during that time, they are not scalping, because anyone can buy those same sets (as many as they like, at retail price or on discount), within the same time window. It sounds like investors are being labelled 'scalpers' by people that are either jealous (because they don't have the time, or money, or space available), or they don't really understand the term scalpers properly (or indeed the Lego investing market). There's plenty of stock for everyone - kids, adults, builders, and resellers/investors. Just enjoy it, and if you want a set - then just buy it at retail or discounted when its readily available. Simple.
@dylandickson6029
@dylandickson6029 5 місяців тому
Hit the nail on the head with this one
@big.boi_v1795
@big.boi_v1795 3 місяці тому
Nah, I don’t like ppl who go into the store and buy 50 of the same set
@vorpalweapon4814
@vorpalweapon4814 3 місяці тому
Its really nice of you to socially redeem the scalpers but the resale market has only gotten worse as a result of them. While vitriol is not appropriate, frustration at the difficulty of getting slightly older sets is warranted I think.
@stevesherwood2944
@stevesherwood2944 3 місяці тому
@@vorpalweapon4814 @vorpalweapon4814 They are not scalpers though, which was the key point. That term is for people like touts, that buy sports or gig tickets - exploiting a very limited supply of a commodity over a very short period. As my post clearly states - anyone can buy any Lego set (in any country in the world...) on any day of the year whilst its still in stock. But when something is no longer available, then the price goes up. That fundamental law of economics has existed since the dawn of time, and is the foundation of basic trading. A defined number of Lego sets retire every single year, and a list of these sets is even on their website. If you think Lego investors are buying up all the stock, then I think you'll find the reality is that over 99% of the sets sold are bought by people that build and play with them (or give them as gifts). If you're not in that 99%, then don't blame the 1%....
@stevesherwood2944
@stevesherwood2944 3 місяці тому
@@big.boi_v1795 If those 50 sets were the last 50 in the whole world, then you'd have a point. But Lego will always keep making sets until they retire - and until that point, they respond to market demand. They don't launch a set with a fixed sales/stock figure in mind - if people buy more, then they simply keep making more. There are still 70 sets on the Lego UK website available to buy which were all due to retire in December. Many of them are tipped to be great for investing, so the idea that investors are 'buying up all the stock' is a total myth - otherwise they'd have all sold out in December. Paying more for a product that's no longer available is a universal law of economics for every commodity in the world. If I want to buy something that's no longer in stock, then it's my fault for not getting it when it was freely available in stores or online. If I still want that product, then I'd expect to pay more - whether it's a car, a watch, a bottle of wine, or a Lego set...
@fixerdrew02
@fixerdrew02 Рік тому
When theres a video about Lego investing by the Wall Street Journal, then the market is far too saturated
@danielrossman584
@danielrossman584 Рік тому
Lots of storage space required for the average person to make any real money.
@faustosantovito7106
@faustosantovito7106 Рік тому
Yeah its just a neat use of space IF you have some left over. I don't think the economics when applied to storage costs hold up as well as when you are just using up unused space in your house/apartment.
@AMldn
@AMldn Рік тому
Great serie on niche markets
@ChristopherCabello
@ChristopherCabello Рік тому
As someone who's been buying Lego STARWARS products since 2000 I figured this was a growing niche that's only going to boom. *Edit had to fact check the year my Dad bought them for me and changed the year.
@colors6692
@colors6692 Рік тому
It was niche about 10 years ago, every one and their uncle is doing it now, completely saturating the market!!
@ChristopherCabello
@ChristopherCabello Рік тому
@@studebricker2845 I wouldn't doubt it lol. My dad would buy me the first Lego starwars sets from KB toys. I was probably 4 or 5.
@shuki1
@shuki1 Рік тому
Disney diluted the Star Wars brand for the near future, perhaps the market will recover in the next cycle.
@lottnio8207
@lottnio8207 Рік тому
You apparently were able to buy them before they came for sale in 1999. That’s a feat.
@soujapa1
@soujapa1 Рік тому
loved this niche markets, make more pls
@chargerdave2046
@chargerdave2046 Рік тому
Hobbies should never be about " how much it's worth " just enjoy it
@michaelfinny7538
@michaelfinny7538 Рік тому
There are inaccuracies in this. The Lego TIE fighter helmet was not originally $30. Retail value was $60. Big difference
@kylestrating
@kylestrating Рік тому
He bought at a discount. The key is to obviously never buy at full price in order to maximize your return. Stack discounts, retailer rewards programs, etc. 50% off is certainly not a regular thing to expect but definitely not unheard of by any stretch either.
@michaelfinny7538
@michaelfinny7538 Рік тому
@@kylestrating This could well be so, but it is not clear from the way the video was presented. If this was the case, he needed to make that clear so it’s doesn’t sound like the profit is misrepresented.
@faustosantovito7106
@faustosantovito7106 Рік тому
@@michaelfinny7538 Yeah i feel like this video was made by some intern in one weekend after the interview...
@aaronakhobadze4498
@aaronakhobadze4498 Рік тому
Same with Lego “tron” LEGO Voltron sold for $180 at retail not $100
@kylestrating
@kylestrating Рік тому
@@aaronakhobadze4498 again, the goal is to buy at a discount to maximize returns. No one who invests in LEGO sets buys at retail price. Stacked discounts.
@Joeeaw
@Joeeaw Рік тому
Now it’s too many Lego investors here in Thailand. I think in the future, the resale price will not create huge profits like today or in the past. Another point is Lego also release too many lines/sets it’s getting harder to buy all or estimate the future prices. For those reason, I’m out. 😂
@ikillwithyourtruthholdagai2000
@ikillwithyourtruthholdagai2000 Рік тому
Yeah lol after the vid the whole market is gonba tank for 99% of sets
@AROD617
@AROD617 Рік тому
agree so many people have the same idea .. so the profits will shrink.
@uwone7778
@uwone7778 Рік тому
They key is you have to be willing to enjoy the sets if they don't appreciate in value or the market crashes. If it does, I'll still be just as happy.
@bobshagit9503
@bobshagit9503 Рік тому
lol no one advertises an industry is booming... until its about to burst i can literally print any lego they make with a 3d printer.... they know this and are trying to cash out now
@uwone7778
@uwone7778 Рік тому
@@bobshagit9503 you should do that. I'm sure you'll sell dozens.
@HsingG32
@HsingG32 Рік тому
Although I like my set to have value, I sincerely hope people don't "invest" in this kind of thing. It is purely because there are already so many cases where all these "investors" that have near to no interest in the thing itself and purely looking out for monetary gain just destroy the hobby. Lego is precious not because of the set rarity alone, it is because it has a community, and there will be no community if people cannot afford it.
@StudCity
@StudCity Рік тому
Should of interviewed me
@Crow_Productions
@Crow_Productions Рік тому
I have a massive LEGO collection, worth over $13,000, that’s great but I buy them because they look cool and make me happy not to sell them and make money
@brickfact
@brickfact Рік тому
Cool that WSJ covers Lego investing! :)
@Alex-ji5tf
@Alex-ji5tf Рік тому
Imagine being his kid and not being allowed to play with all the legos
@cammaster50
@cammaster50 Рік тому
Quit messing with a toys price and jacking up a market that is already insane. scalpers suck and will never get any of my money.
@jamm8284
@jamm8284 Рік тому
I was thinking he keeps saying thats how much they are on ebay... Ye because hes the one putting them on for that price then everyone else puts them on for the same thinking thats the going price.
@AndrewJBricks
@AndrewJBricks Рік тому
Supply and demand. You’ve had that time to pick up the set. If it’s gone that’s on you
@oldfreddyfrenchfry1
@oldfreddyfrenchfry1 3 місяці тому
Setting a price doesn’t determine its value. What people decide to pay does it. I’ve seen plenty of sets not sell b/c nobody agrees on the value. So eventually the price comes down, lower offers eventually get accepted, the bidding stalls out, etc.
@buckbrick
@buckbrick Рік тому
We love our Bricks and Minifigs!
@lxcas5401
@lxcas5401 Рік тому
I dont really care that much to invest into lego, I love building legos because It keeps your mind off things and your just focused on building. If I invest in lego I usually only grab a 5-10 of the smaller sets and 1 to display.
@DavidinSLO
@DavidinSLO Рік тому
It’s a whole lot harder than it looks. If you have a spare room to store Lego for the 5-6 years often needed to turn any sort of profit, you might be better just renting out the room
@menikmati789
@menikmati789 Рік тому
Good point I hadn’t considered
@DJTXD123
@DJTXD123 11 місяців тому
5-6 years? You hold most for a year or two
@tcsmagicbox
@tcsmagicbox Рік тому
You should also make sure your investment is covered by insurance, and that you are not living in a disaster prone area such as floods, tornados, wildfires, etc.
@benjaminstreets1912
@benjaminstreets1912 Рік тому
LEGO is for building and enjoying…
@AndrewJBricks
@AndrewJBricks Рік тому
And money!
@ikillwithyourtruthholdagai2000
@ikillwithyourtruthholdagai2000 Рік тому
YOU HAVE TO BE CRYING
@Motorsportsgeek
@Motorsportsgeek Рік тому
Plastic gold baby
@oldfreddyfrenchfry1
@oldfreddyfrenchfry1 3 місяці тому
True, while these people aren’t enjoying the build, they’re preserving sets to be enjoyed by others who discover a set after retirement. My family has been enjoying many retired modular buildings b/c someone chose to leave it on a shelf for years after it retired. It’s kinda like a museum auctioning off pieces of history so their stories can live on in those who came after the object’s time.
@ArchOfWinter
@ArchOfWinter Рік тому
If worse come to worse, the parts alone can be sold of piece by piece on the secondary market. So even if an investment, if you bought in during a sale, you can partially recoup.
@pedro380085
@pedro380085 Рік тому
The real winner here is Lettrick, that got a free ad on WSJ to talk about his business.
@chada75
@chada75 Рік тому
One idea is to buy two sets that you like. One to build and one to hold. I done that and it works. Currently have the Lego Creator Harley Davidson and the Black Camaro.
@user-tz2zz5ij1s
@user-tz2zz5ij1s Рік тому
What seems to be missing is a lot of expenses and equivalency. Storage, even if it’s an empty room in your house is still an expense that can be calculated. It’s estimated an extra living space is worth 5.9 percent on average. Like if you paid 300,000 for a house and are using the extra room as storage, that’s 17,700 storage expense, not even factoring in the terms of the mortgage, which I would assume significantly increases that number. Shelving cost, personal time put in, are all expenses that can be calculated also. Equivalency also seems to be missing. Average inflation year to year has been around 3.5 percent, and even higher the last couple of years. I would love to see these factored into the profit. It seems like the break even point is actually a lot higher than original retail value.
@benjaminlehman3221
@benjaminlehman3221 Рік тому
Then Lego makes the old sets again and ruins the market😂😂
@ToothlesstheNightFury510
@ToothlesstheNightFury510 Рік тому
the only sets they’ve “remade” are still different versions and are like 20 years from when the original released and only a few have come out I believe
@RStickMan22
@RStickMan22 Рік тому
And owns (partly) Bricklink to get their hand in the reselling market.
@faustosantovito7106
@faustosantovito7106 Рік тому
Simply a risk you calculate in. Have to say the 100-150% returns they talked about are misleading as it doesn't include any costs such as storage, shipping, ebay fees. But personally year on year 30-50% including these costs + losing sets makes it quite nice. Especially because it's way more enjoyable than any other alternative investment I have.
@tylerwest3820
@tylerwest3820 Рік тому
Almost never happens
@benjaminlehman3221
@benjaminlehman3221 Рік тому
@@tylerwest3820 I know but still funny
@LittleBinsandBricks
@LittleBinsandBricks Рік тому
Like any other collectible, you need a buyer. If you don’t have a buyer at your price, it doesn’t matter. As with the rise and fall of economy, you have to wait till it’s the right time to sell it when you can get top dollar which is not right now.l when people are selling because they need cash to live. You also need adequate space to store and protect these sets for the long haul. Additionally you need to keep in mind the fees and shipping that go along with selling as well as the tax reporting that comes with places such as eBay and PayPal.
@meerkat1954
@meerkat1954 Рік тому
Sure. But you have to worry about all of those same things with pretty much any investment or job on planet earth. Except maybe space. I agree the space problem is killer.
@RogueBagel
@RogueBagel Рік тому
They need to fact check this a little bit. Dude points to Voltron and calls it Tron, then the video lists MSRP of $100. It also lists the original MSRP of the TIE pilot helmet at $30… there are already prospectors in this hobby/market. Falsely positive info like this will only create more and tank the market for everyone.
@FernandoGastelo
@FernandoGastelo Рік тому
Years ago I tried to do this and bought two Lego death stars. After holding on those huge boxes for a couple of years and moving them across states. I finally sold them. I did make a small profit. But definitely not worth the space they took in my house and cost of moving them
@chucktesta7192
@chucktesta7192 11 місяців тому
they are worth 1000 dollars today
@pooletrainboy
@pooletrainboy 9 місяців тому
which death stars out of interest?
@vorpalweapon4814
@vorpalweapon4814 3 місяці тому
Maybe I am lucky enough to not live in a crowded area but the boxes can't be that big.
@jon6309
@jon6309 Рік тому
As someone who collected comic books as a kid hoping to make a fortune, collectibles are not a very good investment and are highly speculative based on trends. There is also the problem of inventory and ensuring items are maintained in good condition because often times they are at high risks of damage. My mother is getting into vintage and antique items through thrift shops hoping she can make a fortune or getting a good deal but these items are taking up way too many space and prone to damage. People think collectibles gain value over time but from my experience it can greatly depreciate. I had a comic book worth $30, 10 years ago and now it’s only selling for $5. In fact it doesn’t seem like the comic book industry is very hot. I’ve seen older comics at collectors shop sell much lower than what it was a decade ago!
@jettrooper101
@jettrooper101 Рік тому
Except to a certain extent, legos are more timeless. Children and adults will always enjoy building and creativity. Comics are also much more mass produced and different media can replace them much more easily than lego in the digital age. And this guy isn't saying to buy and hold for 50 years expecting to be a millionaire, he sells them within years before they go into obscurity. He's not expecting to make a fortune, he's only trying to beat the stock market.
@jon6309
@jon6309 Рік тому
@@jettrooper101 he may beat the stock market in returns but at the cost of his inconvenience. Legos are illiquid assets and it requires a lot of work to try and flip them. I always preferred stocks over any investment asset only because of the liquidity and how easy it is to sell my positions once the price is high. For legos and comics you need to find a buyer who is willing to pay for it and just because the same Lego was recently sold at a certain price does not mean the next buyer is willing to pay the same price. There is also inventory risk if he can’t flip them fast enough. It’s not like he has a warehouse to store all of them and even if he did it’s going to cost a lot of money to do so! He seems to be operating from his house, if his inventory starts to appear as hoarding that’s going to cause a lot of domestic problems and the possibility of divorce which is going to cost him much more than his own collection 😂
@NoName-mi7bd
@NoName-mi7bd 8 місяців тому
@@jon6309you’d be surprised at the liquidity in the Lego market. Sets on bricklink at/below average price are sold quickly
@dj__alien
@dj__alien Рік тому
The crazy part about it all is he only touched on selling collector/exclusives sets for 4x the original price. If you delve into the more niche Lego themes like Bionicle, which has long been discontinued, some of their figures are selling for 10x what they were originally sold for. And then you have super exclusives like the Mr. Gold minifigure…
@AROD617
@AROD617 Рік тому
yep and i have one of Mr. Gold
@tefnutofhoney2832
@tefnutofhoney2832 4 місяці тому
Bionicle inflation isnt that high for most sets, unless youre a snob who only wants mint, in box, graded, hermetically sealed in a metal case since 2010, quality. The only ones that really feel the sting are larger sets like gadunka, and the same happens with system there, and anything that had a particularly limited run.
@Lucianohlegomocs
@Lucianohlegomocs Рік тому
The fact i still have that big ninjago set still in the box unopened with no damage is crazy.
@jimmykim7229
@jimmykim7229 Рік тому
I remember ebay selling Chinese knockoffs of the millennium falcon collectors edition when "investors" were selling the authentic set for thousands. I'm glad Lego reissued them.
@noksuan59
@noksuan59 Рік тому
the amount of time and effort necessary for someone to be successful in this market, would be equal to starting your own business minus being at the whims of lego.....
@ikillwithyourtruthholdagai2000
@ikillwithyourtruthholdagai2000 Рік тому
Yeah this is just a dymb way to start a slow and bad bussiness, people call it investing but its really not
@ikillwithyourtruthholdagai2000
@ikillwithyourtruthholdagai2000 Рік тому
It can be perfect for you if ur very specific person with very specific qualities and even then most sets dont increase ever in their price lol
@antetokounmpo9787
@antetokounmpo9787 Рік тому
Not true, starting your own business will take forever to get your brand off the ground. Lego is an established brand, piggy backing off their name and selling their most popular products is already miles ahead of doing everything yourself
@MysticBobRoss
@MysticBobRoss Рік тому
I'm guessing they are rounding up on prices. The Tie Fighter Helmet is selling for $180 to $195
@glenntoplis8872
@glenntoplis8872 Рік тому
Do they collect for enjoyment as it should be or just for profit.
@omalashevich
@omalashevich 7 місяців тому
Amazon (eBay) fees and high shipping cost killed it long time ago.
@cglegobuilds9430
@cglegobuilds9430 Рік тому
Here’s where this video lost me, “this tie fighter pilot was originally $30” BS! Maybe because he used rewards or some other type of points to buy down that price but bruh that set was never $30. Be honest with this type of investing.
@MAESTRO.ALVARO
@MAESTRO.ALVARO Рік тому
Obssesed with the BIG LEGO Billund set on the table. He has taste. :)
@tylerwest3820
@tylerwest3820 Рік тому
Well now that WSJ did a piece the bubble must be about to burst
@Zunidrap
@Zunidrap Рік тому
Exactly. I hope the bubble pops soon and these parasites get purged.
@jamesvegas702
@jamesvegas702 Рік тому
Good thing I bought two ucs imperial star destroyers before they retired
@studebricker2845
@studebricker2845 Рік тому
Have fun with that. The biggest sets don't have the highest margins LOL
@clarkj3396
@clarkj3396 Рік тому
@@studebricker2845 yep, some of the 20 dollar sets are now $120 or higher lol. I wish I was working sooner.
@simonseis744
@simonseis744 Рік тому
It used to be worth doing this, when not many people were doing it, but now so many people are 'investing' in LEGO that the market is saturated and you can just Bricklink loose parts to build any set you want.
@sw1mXfr3ak
@sw1mXfr3ak Рік тому
I’m here as a true lover of lego looking to invest in a hobby for my nephew and I as well as a potential source of secondary income for myself. Any tips?
@johnsamuel1999
@johnsamuel1999 Рік тому
I would love to get into lego. Unfortunately, i am from a developing country and the lego star wars series is so expensive. Even a cheap set is 1/8 of my monthly rent and a decent set is half a months rent.
@ikillwithyourtruthholdagai2000
@ikillwithyourtruthholdagai2000 Рік тому
So basically ur saying people in ur country cant buy lego and its better to work any way
@AverageJoe483
@AverageJoe483 Рік тому
What country are you from ?
@johnsamuel1999
@johnsamuel1999 Рік тому
@@AverageJoe483 i am from india, I live in a tier 2 city
@AverageJoe483
@AverageJoe483 Рік тому
@@johnsamuel1999 well come over to the US ! You can get a good job and all the Legos you want ! 👍👍
@johnsamuel1999
@johnsamuel1999 Рік тому
@@AverageJoe483 yes , i would love too. I been think of doing my master in the US at 2024 or 2025
@RevantuZ
@RevantuZ Рік тому
as a long time lover of lego, i have literally zero sympathy for anybody who buys lego for the sake of resell. makes it worse for people who are just looking to find their favorite sets and actually enjoy them. i can understand those who buy it, enjoy it, and resell when they no longer play with it, but that's as far as it goes imo
@dylandickson6029
@dylandickson6029 5 місяців тому
😢
@megatronVS
@megatronVS Рік тому
As long as he's not buying 15-20 of these things to scalp them, I don't see the problem here. Sometimes people find out that they missed a cool set that's no longer being produced. I recently spent $180 for a new-in-box Apollo rocket, which was more than retail, but worth it IMO considering that it isn't in production right now.
@LostMySauce
@LostMySauce Рік тому
Next do Pokemon cards - collecting, grading, etc.
@FernandoGastelo
@FernandoGastelo Рік тому
Even Goodwill is selling small bags of assorted Legos for $30. I think there is a bit of a Lego bubble right now. As their sales increased over the pandemic (due to everyone being at home) but I doubt they would stay high
@lkramberg
@lkramberg Рік тому
While I've received great pleasure out of constructing and displaying several Disney Lego sets in recent years, speculators will potentially enjoy a few dollars profit or possibly suffer financial losses. Doesn't sound like theirs is a worthwhile pastime to me.
@wartortle1375
@wartortle1375 Рік тому
I just got back into Lego a year ago and i really hope this doesn't turn into the next Pokémon craze because it is going to suck for the collectors/Hobby enthusiasts.
@hawkeyebricks9905
@hawkeyebricks9905 Рік тому
I wouldn't worry about that because Lego is an expensive toy. It's not as accessible as a pack of trading cards. Lego collecting is not something new. It's just becoming more mainstream. But even mainstream collectors/investors can't ruin it. The value of rare lego sets, parts, and minifigures is always going to be high. It may come down a bit... but there will always be buyers for Lego. People are passionate about Lego for a variety of reasons... the monetary value is only a small part of the toy's appeal.
@secretsquirrel6718
@secretsquirrel6718 Рік тому
I cannot imagine "displaying" a Lego set. I guess I'll put it next to my DVD collection.
@DieterG.
@DieterG. Рік тому
It only works for lego. Too many „Investors“ on the market now.
@AndrewJBricks
@AndrewJBricks Рік тому
Isn’t there too many investors in the stock market too?
@Chris349
@Chris349 Рік тому
Lego investing reminds me of what happened to Beanie Babies. Everyone bought those cute stuffed animals because they were exclusive when the company stopped making them. It got to the point where no one was buying them because anyone actually wanted them - just to resell them. I think that Lego has more utility than a stuffed animal, but I worry that in the future a lot of people will be stuck with sets that no one is willing to pay for.
@lottnio8207
@lottnio8207 Рік тому
It’s the same with all investing. Some people make profit and some people don’t. Bubbles etc. are part of risks
@tooxtalivai0690
@tooxtalivai0690 Рік тому
Toys for kids brought buy adults and never taken out of the box
@DavidinSLO
@DavidinSLO Рік тому
It’s a mixed bag. I’ve made a few hundred dollars off some sets. I’m also sitting on several sets (esp the London Tower Bridge) that, due to a hugely saturated market, probably won’t be increasing in value for another 10 years
@digitalrandomart3049
@digitalrandomart3049 Рік тому
00:26 retail price for that set was not 30 bucks.
@matheus.lifestyle
@matheus.lifestyle Рік тому
What’s the return per year?
@PocketUau
@PocketUau Рік тому
Here I am, having worked in a Lego Store, slamming my head on the table
@BobaGotFett
@BobaGotFett Рік тому
Cool. Lucas is one of those guys that has 5 or 6 of the same set in his shopping cart, while I'm saying to my kids, "oh well, sorry guys." I can't stand people like this. Ninjago sets? Think of the kids dude. You're a Father yourself.
@kingsleychan
@kingsleychan Рік тому
I can't wait until Wata or CGC start grading Lego boxes too!
@LegoBrickInvestment
@LegoBrickInvestment Рік тому
📈🔥
@HIFLY01
@HIFLY01 Рік тому
Lego investors are awful. I've worked in an auction house before and I've seen people get disappointed when their "$10000 priced item" (because they saw someone else asking the same for it) only for it to been sold for a few hundred bucks because no one wanted it. Lego investors work the same way where they see someone posted something on ebay for a ridiculous high price and now suddenly everyone thinks thats what its worth. I saw a new star wars set being sold for $75 + another $10 for shipping when you can go to target and get it for $40. It just got released and people are thinking they can make +25% profit within weeks of its release. No if you do that you're dumb. Then theres the minifigs. No lego minifig should be $20 or more. Thats insane. I can see if there were some really old sets or having a limited release like the chrome c3po but a normal clone trooper? Screw that. I get people want to make money but all this is doing is ruining it for people who just want the set and don't care about resell value. Maybe some child really liked a certain Minecraft set and wanted to buy it. The msrp was $40 but now its $200. If you're going to do investments with lego, at least be smart about it and make it a price people don't look at and say "wow you're an idiot" because it'll just sit as "for sale" for years and no one will buy it. If they weren't going to buy it cheaper before, what makes you think in 2 months they're want to spend more?
@rambozzle4706
@rambozzle4706 Рік тому
Fr p2 captain rex is like $200
@viktoryanokovich3699
@viktoryanokovich3699 Рік тому
The tie fighter retailed for $60 though, not $30
@suddenbrickproductions
@suddenbrickproductions Рік тому
LEGO Star Wars has risen 200% more than the S & P 500 since its creation!
@Matt-xm5bj
@Matt-xm5bj Рік тому
Recently bought Bugatti Chiron Lego Set $350 compared to same model Sian Lamborghini $450. Bugatti is retiring soon (not Sian yet) and will be worth lots of $$$ after it's retired like Porsche GT3 where I bought for $300 and it peaked at $2000-3000 during pandemic
@RStickMan22
@RStickMan22 Рік тому
I would say that the, Back to the Future (DeLorean) set that is about to retire, will really go up in value. On Bricklink just the two Minfigures are selling for about 60 70 dollars together being in mint condition. Once cast members pass away, as Doc is getting old and MJF has his own issues. I predict that set really going up in value. Plus iconic car and series of movies in of themselves. You can find it for 170 currently down from 200 on sale. Like all investing their are winners and losers' so you got to be careful and pick carefully after proper research.
@chada75
@chada75 Рік тому
Any of the Speed Hunters sets, especially the retired White Porsche 911, seems to double as soon as the sets retires.
@faustosantovito7106
@faustosantovito7106 Рік тому
Lego did amp up production in 2022 to accommodate for the late release of the Ferrari Daytona so it probably won't see the same returns as the Porsche but is still a good investment. I try to stay away from big sets though as I've seen more consistent high returns on sets at 50 to 150$. Wish you the best of luck with your Lego investments
@ikillwithyourtruthholdagai2000
@ikillwithyourtruthholdagai2000 Рік тому
@@RStickMan22 That set has been on discount for its interity during the sell periodt
@AnthonyCasabar
@AnthonyCasabar Рік тому
Love it
@DOom-gw8sk
@DOom-gw8sk Рік тому
Let us remember what happened with vintage video game sales and the people that do the rating of the game condition and the auction houses that are all in cahoots
@colors6692
@colors6692 Рік тому
BS on the Lego Batmobile!! There are hundreds for sale for $300-$350 and when the seller pays Ebay/Amazon fees then he will be lucky not to lose money!!
@MrLegobro
@MrLegobro Рік тому
I have been doing this for over 24 years.
@r0b0tniik
@r0b0tniik Рік тому
I kind of really hate this… I just want to be able to buy and enjoy a set that I never got as a kid. But when I see people hoarding them, like gold bricks, forcing the price far beyond what I can afford, it really annoys me. Of course, people can do whatever they want with their legos 🙄
@oldfreddyfrenchfry1
@oldfreddyfrenchfry1 3 місяці тому
Hoarding them increases the supply of retired sets, actually making them more capable to acquired long after their retirement, compared to if nobody hoarded them. The supply would dry up quick as everyone immediately opened their boxes.
@r0b0tniik
@r0b0tniik 3 місяці тому
@@oldfreddyfrenchfry1 that’s a good point that I never considered. I can see how that might be great for a new set, to keep it, and resell 5-10 years later
@Goblonium
@Goblonium 23 дні тому
Lego isn't like Nvidia, making a few thousand units and then stopping, letting scalpers increase the value. They sell more than enough sets which will always be sold at the same price or lower (not counting the inflation increase). People who price it more than msrp on ebay think they can get a 150% profit when the set is still there, they aren't the smartest tool in the shed. After Lego retires them, the price goes up, because the sets are no longer produced by Lego, investors are good because it gives an opportunity for people to buy the set after it was retired.
@r0b0tniik
@r0b0tniik 23 дні тому
@@Goblonium i think this is great for sets produced after 2010. but im not seeing how this is good for older sets that are already rare and hard to find. keeping 10 copies of one set seems to make it only possible for rich people to buy. but hey- im complaining because im poor and i couldn't afford the sets when i was a kid 😅
@general_midas
@general_midas Рік тому
So he buys in bulk and is the reason some people don't get it at all? Thanks.
@monkeybusiness2204
@monkeybusiness2204 Рік тому
It takes Lego seconds to decide to reprint or reissue those rare sets to plunge the price. Don't think it's a good investment.
@Obi-Wan_Kenobi
@Obi-Wan_Kenobi Рік тому
Lego almost never reprints or reissues rare sets though.
@xMcLite
@xMcLite Рік тому
Yeah, right. Obviously you are not Lego aware, there is a 99.9% chance once the set retires, it’s never ever coming back.
@max2themax
@max2themax Рік тому
Lego knows they'd dig themselves into a grave if they did that. If anything, they'll make a different remake of a set, never the same.
@spaceygnat19908
@spaceygnat19908 Рік тому
​@@xMcLitei think he trying to say they can make another atat with a updated designs or redo the police car for the 15th time. Just like the lord of the ring return might effect the old ones because they are making more.
@brandondoetzelmd6704
@brandondoetzelmd6704 Рік тому
@@Obi-Wan_Kenobi They've reissued tons of Star Wars related sets, nearly always improved from the prior series
@moneymanifestation9505
@moneymanifestation9505 Рік тому
The problem with art or collectibles is that the value is based on nothing. Perception is what drives the prices but they have no more value than they had when they were first made
@lottnio8207
@lottnio8207 Рік тому
That’s how it is but it’s not a problem. Many prices don’t have much real connection to use value whatever that is or materials used.
@ZachBobBob
@ZachBobBob Рік тому
Investors better not make the prices crash beanie baby style. Lego fans have a good thing going right now. Plus big time AFOLs just buy the sets they want anyway so in the future nobody is gonna be trying to get a UCS falcon when basically everyone that wants one has one
@kylear6120
@kylear6120 Рік тому
You don’t think a kid who cant afford the UCS falcon now will eventually grow up and buy it when they have the money? Many collectors are those former kids aspiring to buy what they once couldn’t have
@lordclimentos
@lordclimentos Рік тому
@@kylear6120 Good point!
@oldfreddyfrenchfry1
@oldfreddyfrenchfry1 3 місяці тому
There’s also always going to be new people that come into the collecting hobby after a bunch of sets have retired, discover all that was once available, and decide the higher price is worth reaching back into time and collecting the series. That’s what I’ve been doing with modular buildings. I wasn’t interested for years, but now my family has taken interest and I’ve appreciated all the NIB retired sets available…yes for a high cost, but that’s the price of “going back in time” to complete a collection.
@jawadrahim9853
@jawadrahim9853 Рік тому
Very easy to make profit in Lego Products. Purchase products from secret suppliers ( Discounts rate) sell at high price online
@Daniel-ny7bn
@Daniel-ny7bn Рік тому
Man is outperforming top Hedge Fund managers
@gulorful8488
@gulorful8488 Рік тому
There's a massive problem where tons of lego sets are selling out and videos like these promoting a false sense of investing are not helping.
@PedroDelgado724
@PedroDelgado724 Рік тому
There's no way the tie fighter pilot head sell for that much i see so many of them
@FelipeBudinich
@FelipeBudinich Рік тому
FYI; If it already hit the news, it is no longer a viable grift.
@SolomonMagnus819
@SolomonMagnus819 4 місяці тому
Well LEGO is not like wine. If you open it up and use it, you can still reuse the LEGO. You still have it. Yes you lose the seal, but not the set itself
@aat8345
@aat8345 Рік тому
it can be annoying that these sets appreciate so much compared to retail price. bricklink is the main source of lego around the world on the re-sellers market however has just been bought by lego fyi
@TheAntManChannel
@TheAntManChannel Рік тому
Yeah, I've invested thousands in Lego in the past 2 years. It's a great side hustle.
@MrSuperfrat
@MrSuperfrat Рік тому
whats the tree house set at 1:54?
@joao_calado
@joao_calado Рік тому
It's called Lego Tree House :), and is an Ideas set meaning it came from a submission and won enough votes and eventually was putted out by lego, I'm not sure but I think it alredy retiered. Iit came with two sets of leaves, green and this autum orange ones.
@faustosantovito7106
@faustosantovito7106 Рік тому
Lego Tree House 21318, an awsome set, you can get it used really cheap right now so I'd recommend it.
@odiedodieuk
@odiedodieuk Рік тому
0:20 Lego Tron? Mate thats clearly Voltron
@kcdiazWTV
@kcdiazWTV Рік тому
What would be nice is for a company that can build an app with AI integration that can detect, categorize and label Lego parts.
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