Linus Torvalds On Future Of Desktop Linux

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The interview was recorded last year at the Open Source Summit.

КОМЕНТАРІ: 571
@Rand0madness
@Rand0madness 2 роки тому
Everyone who interviews Linus: "...so all knowing Linux man, tell me, what is the meaning of life?" Linus: "I literally just do kernels."
@sternbach-software
@sternbach-software Рік тому
I laughed so hard reading this! They are just people! To some people they are friends, classmates, siblings. Watching interviews for me has made these people into real people, not celebrity deities. Your comment encapsulates that very well.
@aubreydigital
@aubreydigital 5 місяців тому
Linus actually reveals the meaning of life in his book
@adavidmezei
@adavidmezei 2 місяці тому
@@aubreydigital 101010?
@mds123mds123
@mds123mds123 4 роки тому
Open Source interview: someone passing by looked at the talk and gave a contribution.
@t94xr
@t94xr 4 роки тому
he should have been interviewed by someone who's far more knowledgable than him... This is a trainwreck.
@RajarshiBandopadhyay
@RajarshiBandopadhyay 3 роки тому
You mean made a Pull Request.
@remasteredretropcgames3312
@remasteredretropcgames3312 3 роки тому
Futurelessness.
@remasteredretropcgames3312
@remasteredretropcgames3312 3 роки тому
Diversity is important? Got something against a hive of bees?
@remasteredretropcgames3312
@remasteredretropcgames3312 3 роки тому
Part of it is genetics. We just assume evolution stops at the dermal representation. The truth is we all run on calories and allocate them toward different lobe specializations. Why do you think women invented almost nothing throughout all of human history?
@hieverybody4246
@hieverybody4246 3 роки тому
The thing I love about Linus is how realistic and down to Earth he is. You don't see him pushing a particular license. You won't see him obsessing over standards. You will see him trying to get open source software adopted widely no matter the form, and you will see him pushing unity instead of distro madness.
@vercolit
@vercolit 2 роки тому
@James Warden Jr. imo, Microsoft can't kill linux, linux is extremely widespread for anything that is not desktop. Even Microsoft uses linux everywhere because it's significantly better for many tasks
@TheBinaryHappiness
@TheBinaryHappiness 2 роки тому
@James Warden Jr. you must a microsoft shareholder lmao. in any case your predictions are way off, microsoft can't do anything to an international army of nerds with burning passion
@dee23gaming
@dee23gaming 2 роки тому
@James Warden Jr. Without Linux, there is no modern computing at the base level. Linux runs in your cars, your washing machines, microwaves, inverters, etc. It's like the Java programming language - it's everywhere
@lucemiserlohn
@lucemiserlohn 2 роки тому
@@anukranan That is your opinion. I find systemd much more usable than System V init scripts; you may not like Poettering, and for good reason, but the fact is that systemd is better than the haters make it out to be. My only concern with it is that it tries to do everything and does not adhere to some principles I hold dear, but I can see why they chose to do it this way. I would have liked systemd to be a bit more streamlined and split up into a number of tools each doing one thing rather than the monolith it is, but it works, and it is much simpler than what we had before. One day, a replacement will come along that adhere to the Unix philosophy more, and then that will replace systemd, but until then, it is a fine and working solution. Regarding Linus's views on userspace, I don't care that much. He does the Kernel, and he's good at that, and anything else is really not to be taken more seriously than any other Linux user's input on this and that. Just because he started the thing doesn't mean he has an informed opinion on everything, or knows the best way to solve other people's problems.
@lucemiserlohn
@lucemiserlohn 2 роки тому
@@dee23gaming And Java should be eradicated. Not because it's slow (it is), not because it is bad taste and bad design (it is), but because of ORACLE and they way those guys inhale open projects and open technologies and close them down and pervert them into a weapon against the very ideals open projects rely on. In this way, Oracle is the ultimate evil. These guys are worse than Microsoft would have ever dreamed to be in their worst days. I would put them at the number 1 spot of evil companies out there, well before meta/facebook, alphabet/google or amazon or whoever else may come to mind.
@netwalker-1
@netwalker-1 4 роки тому
When Linus smiles, looks like he is about to smash your face
@jasonfanclub4267
@jasonfanclub4267 3 роки тому
Hahahaha
@qwerty-jl5zo
@qwerty-jl5zo 3 роки тому
hahahaha, it's really so))
@user-kf8bg3qm2i
@user-kf8bg3qm2i 3 роки тому
As far as i know his wife is quite a specialist in smashing faces. So he can delegate it to her
@LoganT547
@LoganT547 3 роки тому
@@pedrogonzalez5590 Thanks for contributing absolutely nothing to the discussion whatsoever.
@punnu5997
@punnu5997 3 роки тому
very true. after this interview he jumped on the host and gave him a taste of his pent up frustration from last 2 weeks.
@Selbstdenkender
@Selbstdenkender 4 роки тому
Mr. Torvalds, thank you Sir for your hard work and huge impact in inspiring and educating people all over the world.
@vn773
@vn773 3 роки тому
you know Torvalds is never going to see this comment
@peggyolson8643
@peggyolson8643 3 роки тому
@@vn773 you must be a blast at the parties.
@vn773
@vn773 3 роки тому
@@peggyolson8643 somehow everyone tells me this same thing but yet no one actually invites me to any parties :(
@micosstar
@micosstar 3 роки тому
@@vn773 Your face explains it.
@rizalijal2933
@rizalijal2933 3 роки тому
@@vn773 😎😭😎😭😭
@surjagain
@surjagain 4 роки тому
Always a pleasure to hear the Boss talk :)
@YoungGrizzly
@YoungGrizzly 4 роки тому
Yeah he's that uncle that doesn't care about your feelings but you know he has your back.
@curiosidadesdalife381
@curiosidadesdalife381 4 роки тому
@@YoungGrizzly lmao
@hzum2724
@hzum2724 4 роки тому
@@YoungGrizzly Lmfuckingao
@DMBoyCloud
@DMBoyCloud 3 роки тому
Didn't see Stallman.
@philipquaglino
@philipquaglino 3 роки тому
this man is woefully under appreciated for what he has given to the world. People have no idea the hell the internet and most OS's would be without him.
@Thatsit36
@Thatsit36 2 роки тому
@@fedup6127 Yeah only >95% of all servers are powered by Linux, but sure I guess he has "nothing to do with the internet". Okay dude.
@Thatsit36
@Thatsit36 2 роки тому
@@jetison333 I think you missed that I was responding to a now deleted comment lol. See I'm responding to "Fed Up" and not Phillip?
@jetison333
@jetison333 2 роки тому
@@Thatsit36 oop yeah your right
@exampleofasmileyface9433
@exampleofasmileyface9433 2 роки тому
@@Thatsit36 what did the deleted comment say?
@Thatsit36
@Thatsit36 2 роки тому
@@exampleofasmileyface9433 That Linus had nothing to do with IP/TCP so had nothing to do with the internet.
@MB-oi2em
@MB-oi2em 4 роки тому
Thank You Linus!! I've been happily using Linux for many many years... Slackware was the first distribution I tried back in the early 90's... I was totally blown away by how stable the Linux systems were compared to the mainstream OS's of the day. The selfless contribution you gave the world is so much more profound than most people know...
@MB-oi2em
@MB-oi2em 3 роки тому
@Sentient.Observer My wife has a Mac. I was talking about how stable Linux was back in 90's... Nothing Microsoft or Apple had back then could touch it... I had Linux servers where I worked where the uptime was measured in months, some even years.... as far as the tinkering.... that's true, the Mac OS (which is really a BSD fork) was designed and developed to sell to the masses, that'd be "people who know nothing about computers". Linux was designed for freedom and liberty. Oh and "actual software" like photoshop? Have you tried GIMP? www.gimp.org/
@ChrisHillASMR
@ChrisHillASMR 2 роки тому
Stable compared to 3.1 windows
@stpedro-ht9ng
@stpedro-ht9ng Рік тому
greybeard alert. lol jk i can't even imagine dealing with the install process for 90s Linux. It makes Arch look like child's play.
@dryster123
@dryster123 2 роки тому
I like the way Linus can dismiss an entire line of computers with the word "calendar"
@mrlawilliamsukwarmachine4904
@mrlawilliamsukwarmachine4904 2 роки тому
LOL, yes! I clocked that, too.
@Lucassymons
@Lucassymons 4 роки тому
That was a really awesome just chilled out chat. Thanks everyone for their time and putting it online.
@fh404
@fh404 3 роки тому
tbh I found most of the questions kinda boring but that probably also made it as chill haha
@user-ze7tl2dw4i
@user-ze7tl2dw4i 4 роки тому
appreciate your adaptability in the video by giving greg the mic. I think you're doing an awesome job!! :)
@antoniostorcke
@antoniostorcke 3 роки тому
I am glad that Linus Torvalds has mentioned Flatpak. It is time for the Linux community to standardize desktop software installation packages. RPM , DEB, SNAP, etc should be reserved for non-desktop apps and system updates.
@Calslock
@Calslock 7 місяців тому
To be honest snap should be thrown into abyss of oblivion, flatpak is already de facto standard and does everything snap does but better. The only reason snap exists is because Canonical wants its own solution, I don't believe it's used in any other distro than Ubuntu, heck, even Ubuntu derivatives are getting rid of snap. I don't mind having rpm/deb/pacman, but AUR could be successfully replaced with flatpak repos.
@duneode
@duneode 2 роки тому
This interview was really great, loved how easy the interviewer made it to talk openly and without confusion.
@iamwhatiam1221
@iamwhatiam1221 4 роки тому
03:15 he uses chromebook for calenders....lol savage....look at his smile that time...damnn...:D
@jaykstah
@jaykstah 4 роки тому
@Marcos you didnt listen to the video then. he clearly says he could see himself using a chromebook a few years in the future once there's better support for deb packages. he also says that he sees ChromeOS as a potential standard for Linux desktop use once deb packages are better supported on there too
@jaykstah
@jaykstah 4 роки тому
@Jessica Jones Idk. Im not saying i would, cause i wouldnt. Im just saying that in the video Linus said he would be willing to use one in the future.
@swafit
@swafit 4 роки тому
@Jessica Jones why not use it? You can run chrome app, android app, Linux app, the only reason I don't use mine is because of the non standard keyboard, so it's a pain for programming but for an average user who just do web stuff and just want something that work. It's great.
@zcalex7660
@zcalex7660 4 роки тому
Old Lenovo thinkpads and vanilla arch is the future 😎 btw i use arch.
@Niels_f2704
@Niels_f2704 3 роки тому
Imagine the potential Chrome OS could have. The problem is that they locked it down but they keep on updating it and things might change. I’d prefered it over Windows 10 because it’s more stable and secure. You can even run Android apps on Chrome OS wich changes the game. Anyway Microsoft annaunced there won’t be a new version of Windows after Windows 10 so I could see Google being able to take the change to bring it on the market for people to download and use since it’s user friendly and simple.
@postfixnotation9829
@postfixnotation9829 4 роки тому
Great Interview. Thanks a lot!
@c1sc0m
@c1sc0m 4 роки тому
This was one of the best interviews of Linus I've seen so far. The sound "issue" you said, in my opinion didn't tainted the interview. Actually the fact that Greg joined was great and you guys managed it nicely. I really enjoyed it. Thanks for this interesting and amusing interview.
@eternal864
@eternal864 Рік тому
I have also started to watch some of the Linus' interviews/talks in the past couple of days and I have to say you're absolutely right. I haven't seen any of Greg's interviews before this one, and I wasn't particularly looking for one with him involved; But surprisingly I ended up liking this interview the most among the ones I've watched so far! It felt very organic. Good job.
@Jmvars
@Jmvars 6 місяців тому
taint* "tainted" becomes double past tense. "didn't" is already past tense, making "tainted" redundant.
@gloatsticks
@gloatsticks 2 роки тому
Dude what a blessing, you are talking with Linus Torvalds himself, than another Kernel super-star comes and just plops himself down. Massive Kudos, what a time and place to have an interview, thank you for posting this! P.S. I agree, you could almost let them just sit and talk like they're at work :D so cool.
@jrc6547
@jrc6547 2 роки тому
It always blows my mind how in high school I heard about this new thing called Linux and now the world operates on it. Thank you Linus!
@Tol1as
@Tol1as 2 роки тому
It's nuts that at one point 99% of pc's were using windows and then 20 years later linux has pretty much reached 2 billion devices just through android.
@STONE6969
@STONE6969 Рік тому
Linux is not that new, the first Kernal went out in 1991 00.1, Linus studied the Unix code and then eventually, came up with Linux. Unix has been around since before the 1970s and even before that UNIX was called Unics.
@STONE6969
@STONE6969 Рік тому
@@Tol1as Linux is on close to 250 million Desktops, PCs, over 3 billion phones, over 80% of Stock Market exchanges and Cloud Systems, Servers etc etc. Linux makes MS look small.
@jrc6547
@jrc6547 Рік тому
@@STONE6969 It was still very new in 1998 when I first worked with it in high school.
@STONE6969
@STONE6969 Рік тому
@@jrc6547 well 7 years later is still the early days of Linux, your right.
@berkc5323
@berkc5323 3 роки тому
he is so efficient that he barely opens his mouth while speaking.
@libremercadoencrisiseconom2118
@libremercadoencrisiseconom2118 3 роки тому
u got a strong point
@hudsonreis81
@hudsonreis81 3 роки тому
Congratulations! Excellent Interview! To See Linus Torvalds and Greg Kroah-Hartman talking together and in a sincere and honest manner shows how professional and committed they are with the Community and with Kernel development. Not only them but all people and organizations involved
@snowy8926
@snowy8926 3 роки тому
I’d love to have his hair when I get older.
@levishalom1303
@levishalom1303 3 роки тому
its a toupe
@RonvanMiddendorp
@RonvanMiddendorp 2 роки тому
Ask him if you can buy it...
@BlindRambler
@BlindRambler 2 роки тому
Ikr
@Rohinthas
@Rohinthas 7 місяців тому
Hey man, this was a VERY nice interview!
@shikomatlala
@shikomatlala 3 роки тому
Nice Interview - very close and perfect
@aliakbaramirkhani3265
@aliakbaramirkhani3265 4 роки тому
good to see Mr. Linus on Interviews :D good talk
@emdadgar_official
@emdadgar_official 2 роки тому
salam bar to irani ... :) 300 min o devopsi azat mirize ostad
@DaSnipy
@DaSnipy 4 роки тому
Great Living Legend. Respect. Nice cool interviewer too :)
@masonwilcox7055
@masonwilcox7055 Рік тому
Thanks for the great interview
@oneextrabit
@oneextrabit 4 роки тому
It seems like Linus is a pretty nice guy, who just takes his work very seriously, once again the media portrait has nothing to do with reality.
@oneextrabit
@oneextrabit 4 роки тому
@@ExplorerWebDev its just he is often deacribed as a very mean person. Even the interviewer had some questions asking about that
@SahWar
@SahWar 4 роки тому
@@oneextrabit We love him the way he is, a practical Finnish man with excellent English! 👍
@contingenceBoston
@contingenceBoston 4 роки тому
S W -- Well, he knows that he's not very good with people. He's talked about it pretty extensively. Probably grew up in a loveless household and just learned how to use his brain more than his heart. He's a goofy dude. I admire him for not completely caving to corporate interests.
@autohmae
@autohmae 3 роки тому
@@contingenceBoston "Probably grew up in a loveless household" I think I've heard him say the opposite.
@contingenceBoston
@contingenceBoston 3 роки тому
@@autohmae -- I haven't. Though I have heard him explain that his upbringing led him to not respect somebody until they have earned his trust.
@cultofape1000
@cultofape1000 4 роки тому
Linus comes across as a very pragmatic, levelheaded individual. Refreshing. Open source has too many fanatic zealots.
@khwaac
@khwaac 4 роки тому
Open source... Free software is where it's at, but free hardware is a big issue at the moment.
@mononix5224
@mononix5224 4 роки тому
@Petr Ensinger free as in freedom. It's quite obvious that (s)he's referring to libre hardware.
@rockdie9522
@rockdie9522 4 роки тому
Petr Ensinger OMG dude you’re moron. Free libre hardware, not materials for hw. You should leave any community because you are a rude newbie rat
@digiryde
@digiryde 4 роки тому
@@rockdie9522 lmao - He has a blank account. Go figure.
@digiryde
@digiryde 4 роки тому
@Petr Ensinger It is merely that you seem to be unclear and fighting what is a very common definition around the world. Free as in free beer vs free as in unfettered access to the source. They are not the same. Free access to hardware designs is not the same thing as paying nothing for the hardware. When people tried to explain it, you doubled down on your ignorance. So yeah, blank account reflecting a complete lack of anything to be remembered and/or shared accompanied by you arguing on a subject matter of which you demonstrated that you know nothing. Otherwise known as irony.
@OcteractSG
@OcteractSG 2 роки тому
The takeaway from the short Linux desktop bit really was just that the desktop space is very fragmented. That is indeed a big problem. In many distros, it's like how Windows has both the Control Panel and Settings app, but taken up a couple of notches. And that's just in a single distro! Linus discussed how the distros differ from each other, which is also a huge problem. It makes developing apps for the "Linux platform" impractical because there is no unified platform.
@esra_erimez
@esra_erimez 4 роки тому
By the way, I use Arch.
@yuutaw
@yuutaw 4 роки тому
Arch YES
@kresimircosic9035
@kresimircosic9035 4 роки тому
I use Gentoo. Know your place trash.
@wwxkz
@wwxkz 4 роки тому
Windows here
@jacktaylor1516
@jacktaylor1516 4 роки тому
Lol...this is too funny but I don’t think some people get it
@jphanson
@jphanson 4 роки тому
Krešimir Ćosić LFS mustard race checking in. Kneel before your masters.
@lukasaa1079
@lukasaa1079 4 роки тому
Awesome interview. Your questions got great reactions.
@vegardertilbake1
@vegardertilbake1 3 роки тому
Love the questions from the interviewer. Makes for a great conversation
@billbaker2651
@billbaker2651 4 роки тому
Great wide-ranging interview with both Linus Torvalds and Greg Kroah-Hartman, but I think community is the main subject. * ChromeOS as the future of desktop * Community, community, community * Merge windows, vacation, and sanity * Diversity of cultures and management styles * Maintainership models -- people, cooperation, and competition * "I don't actually follow that" Some quotes * "Most projects fail ... Good, go off, and show us wrong!" * "Yeah that's great, but you've got to this so that it works for everybody. ... We can't merge the code back." * "They won ... it took a year and a half [to merge back]. It's not worth doing ahead of time."
@nwrkbiz
@nwrkbiz 3 роки тому
Well moderated interview. Thank you.
@DRAUBERT
@DRAUBERT 3 роки тому
Mr. Linus Torvalds, nice to meet you. thank you for supporting Linux developers and users for always
@anartificialme
@anartificialme 3 роки тому
man, hollywood have to start thinking to make a film about this guy, and Mr Stallman too...
@cqwickedwake7651
@cqwickedwake7651 2 роки тому
Worked with Torvalds few times, cool guy tbh
@joshgordon7299
@joshgordon7299 3 роки тому
Awesome work tfir
@ginolinux9721
@ginolinux9721 4 роки тому
I love u Linus
@PauloConstantino167
@PauloConstantino167 4 роки тому
I Linus you Love
@justinbailey2419
@justinbailey2419 4 роки тому
Me too! Never change! You are the real deal ❤️
@damienhenriquez9754
@damienhenriquez9754 4 роки тому
Let's go champ!
@rpb7003
@rpb7003 4 роки тому
Same. Linus has never changed. Went back and watched his talks at Debconf and such. It was amusing to see people come up to the mic and bawwww about Linus being mean sometimes. Dude has been that way since '91, dude got started in flamewars about MINIX ffs. I'm just glad he hasn't changed, is still honest, and will still tell someone their code sucks and they should be ashamed.
@Metal-Possum
@Metal-Possum 3 роки тому
@@rpb7003 He's Finnish, they get a bit stabby sometimes.
@masmullin
@masmullin 4 роки тому
What a score for the interviewer! Gets a sit down with Linus, and then gregKH shows up.
@acdcat9693
@acdcat9693 4 роки тому
great interview.
@JACloudy
@JACloudy 2 роки тому
"Respect is earned, not given." Linus Torvalds, 2014.
@VauxhallViva1975
@VauxhallViva1975 2 роки тому
George Carlin(RIP) also said the same thing. :)
@benjiwon
@benjiwon 2 роки тому
he'd better copyright that before someone steals it...
@talks2elk
@talks2elk 9 місяців тому
Great interview.
@libertyintech
@libertyintech 3 роки тому
24:30 What outreach program do they participate in?
@c.rutherford
@c.rutherford 3 роки тому
Torvalds is great, I got my start years ago working jobs with UNIX and am 100% behind Linux...... he helped bust the horrendous Windows desktop monopoly. The world is better for it lol
@Ray_TambaBudol_Marcos
@Ray_TambaBudol_Marcos Рік тому
I've been a Linux fan and now I'm building my career because of Linux, and for that I'm forever grateful to you Linus and the contributors of Linux kernel.
@koshoyikaya6173
@koshoyikaya6173 3 роки тому
currently having this in the background for skool
@grandetaco4416
@grandetaco4416 2 роки тому
for a lack of microphone like this a suggestion would be to use an smart phone as an extra mic and edit the audio back in. Not fun, but could solve the issue, especially if lip sync is not a problem.
@WyvernDotRed
@WyvernDotRed 4 роки тому
The hardware workarounds are definitely appreciated! -A Ryzen 2500u user.
@happypeter1983
@happypeter1983 4 роки тому
he has been a great inspiration of how to do things
@oskar20086
@oskar20086 4 роки тому
Great Linus, thanks
@Alexithymiander
@Alexithymiander 2 роки тому
19:50 Greg Kroah-Hartman suddenly shows up :) Amazing.
@bicycleninja1685
@bicycleninja1685 4 роки тому
I have a Lubuntu/LXDE laptop for web site work. It has Chrome, Firefox, Steam, and Lightworks. For media creation, I use a Windows 10 build, with Adobe CC, Cakewalk, Steam, Unity. If a suite like Adobe CC was created for Linux, I'd consider doing a full switch.
@potatoes8169
@potatoes8169 2 роки тому
linux is a kernel. gnu is the os..
@CrazyMarc21783
@CrazyMarc21783 3 місяці тому
​@@potatoes8169☝️🤓
@dertom1895
@dertom1895 2 роки тому
I could listen to Linus for hours and days. 👍
@jaggis4914
@jaggis4914 4 роки тому
Thank you Linus, for Linux and git!
@tontsar91
@tontsar91 2 роки тому
This man is more influential than many realize.
@ChrisHillASMR
@ChrisHillASMR 2 роки тому
The anti bill gates
@maravind84
@maravind84 4 роки тому
What watch is Linus wearing? Looks like a quartz one, not an automatic.
@PRASAD54321prasad
@PRASAD54321prasad 4 роки тому
I understand. But please add in the subtitles and edit and amplify the audio where ever the audio is weak. I don't want to miss out the clarity in the questions and the answers. So, please edit the audio and add subtitles to the portions, if possible. Thank you.
@honestperson3713
@honestperson3713 2 роки тому
With all the people have many complaints, concerns about him, but when a person with his passion for technology changes the world, make millions of lives improved with his contribution to the community, you gotta respect him and ignore his negative things. Instead, get motivated by his work and should try to do such contributions to the world! Heartiest respect!! Only the work matters!!
@mahadevisutar1436
@mahadevisutar1436 2 роки тому
Thank you Linus. From India ☺
@MnemonicCarrier
@MnemonicCarrier 4 роки тому
Linux Torvalds, being interviewed by a Mac/iOS lover. Priceless.
@thedude4795
@thedude4795 4 роки тому
swapnil a mac lover? never heard of this. he wrights loads of linux tutorials and articles, highly doubt he's a mac person.
@moeskido
@moeskido 2 роки тому
This year, for sure!
@joryaock
@joryaock Рік тому
He said they make releases every two to three months. Where can I get that core release without having to have some flavored distribution?..
@ajit555
@ajit555 4 роки тому
Happy with Pop!_OS.
@lveronese
@lveronese 2 роки тому
"the discussion was more important than my voice"... legend
@vignesh5618
@vignesh5618 4 роки тому
Inspiration during my childhood was Bill gates and nowadays its Linus torvalds
@heater5979
@heater5979 4 роки тому
I can't imagine how Bill Gates's became a child hood hero. The guy who closed down all the software we were playing with.
@drenek1
@drenek1 4 роки тому
So if you hadn't known Linus Torvalds, you would have been a psychopath...
@DimitriSabadie
@DimitriSabadie 4 роки тому
Look how luck you got. You could have never been told about Linus and ended up drug addict or murderer.
@milkboysg4595
@milkboysg4595 3 роки тому
bill gates contribute more to humanity than linus.I am still a fan to both.
@vignesh5618
@vignesh5618 3 роки тому
@@milkboysg4595 I agree
@nazgullinux6601
@nazgullinux6601 4 роки тому
The fact that I can run just The bare kernel and my own init scripts and have less than 100mb in system memory at idle makes Linux the defect standard for me.
@jeschinstad
@jeschinstad 3 роки тому
If the goal is to have a small footprint kernel, maybe try not including everything you don't need?
@dexterman6361
@dexterman6361 4 роки тому
What's the convo at 14:50?
@davidreynolds9649
@davidreynolds9649 4 роки тому
This too will pass .....
@xybersurfer
@xybersurfer 4 роки тому
is this a re-upload? i saw this video last year or earlier
@gaston-alegre-stotzer
@gaston-alegre-stotzer 4 роки тому
"The interview was recorded last year at the Open Source Summit." right there in the description
@xybersurfer
@xybersurfer 4 роки тому
@@gaston-alegre-stotzer oh, thanks. i should have read that
@peter_castle
@peter_castle 3 дні тому
16:50 Linus "Very working code flow" Torvalds
@cun_0092
@cun_0092 3 роки тому
If I was there I would really asked this particular question. "What happens if C is going to be retired just like COBOL then how will Linux kernel change ?? Will it be able to adapt to new programming language which might replace C? Will the transition be rough ?"
@eljuano28
@eljuano28 3 роки тому
C isn't going anywhere. Even C+ is probably going to be fine for many decades. C#, well who knows. The difference is in their purpose, so for all intents and purposes, MicroSloth has the ultimate say in C#'s future, but C is such a low level language that has no dependency on os or vendor production track, but I don't see C# becoming irrelevant soon anyway. COBOL died because architecture changed. The language couldn't be adapted, nor was it necessary for it to survive. As ARM begins to catch up to x86, C has remained perfectly relevant, valuable and adaptable. It's as close to perpetual as we get in computers. Even quantum computing's bizarre needs can be addressed by C so far and it's unreasonable to believe Q-ing is going to be useful outside of academia and government for the foreseeable future. My opinion.
@DFPercush
@DFPercush 3 роки тому
There have been talks about using Rust in certain places in the kernel. It's the most likely candidate, given its focus on memory safety and being a compiled systems level language, but I don't think anything will ever completely replace C. You can make a C compiler for just about anything, but I don't think every embedded manufacturer wants to port LLVM to target their chip for Rust.
@Lambda_Ovine
@Lambda_Ovine 2 роки тому
I think C transcended from language to standard so I don't really see it retired, at least not in my life time. And I don't only say that because it's Turing complete and so it can do anything any other modern language can (we could really only be using C for everything if we really wanted). Now, and specially in the future, you'll probably never see it being used in the development of modern applications but for data structure design as the priority there's really nothing better. It's the perfect bridge between low level memory control and abstract enough to not require as much labor as using pure ASSEMBLY. It's syntax is synonym to "code," it's simple, it's powerful, it's fast, it is the standard for what a programming language should be, everything on top of that is convenience, and that's important too. No matter the silicon or platform, compilers for C always show up.
@georgegates526
@georgegates526 2 роки тому
I can't prove it but I don't think UEFI will not let you play "Live Linux' disks because it has to "approve the software" before it will install it. I had to use a regular version of Linux before my computer acknowledged my DVD player. And UEFI rejected "Other OS. I had to put it on Windows just to get the operating system on.
@fooferbob9230
@fooferbob9230 4 роки тому
Does anyone else get the feeling that he is waiting for someone to make their own damn OS and leave him alone for a while?
@fubaralakbar6800
@fubaralakbar6800 4 роки тому
Not at all. Linus created Linux in order to share it with the world. I would think the more prevalent it is, the happier he will be.
@MikaelMurstam
@MikaelMurstam 4 роки тому
He also created it to be the LAST OS you need to create since you can modify it exactly as you please. He made it so you don't have to start from scratch every time. That's why most new OSes are just modifications of Linux.
@SpellsOfTruth
@SpellsOfTruth 4 роки тому
Terry Davis created a completely unique kernel completely different than windows nt or unix linux and unix macOS. He built a divine intellect simple kernel. TempleOS is a x86_64, multi-cored, non-preemptive multi-tasking, ring-0-only, single-address_mapped (identity-mapped), operating system for recreational programming. TempleOS is the only operating system that cares about the user developer, and also lets you talk to God. Its the only way to halt the modern computing from degenerating into corrupt evil artificial intelligence control of humanity.
@niciusb
@niciusb 4 роки тому
@@SpellsOfTruth RIP Terry
@jphanson
@jphanson 4 роки тому
Spells Of Truth Bruh moment
@kirillsayed7697
@kirillsayed7697 3 роки тому
Thank you for Git
@ranjeevpauluzzi9597
@ranjeevpauluzzi9597 3 роки тому
I have a real hard time to understand the question, I think that in the second part of the video you should make subtitles to make easier to us not native speaking ( or just bad )
@Lampe2020
@Lampe2020 7 місяців тому
13:59 "Most of [the explosive emails] are justified?" "Well I think so!" I think I'd have responded exactly the same, I myself also only rarely think after I exploded on somebody that it might have been a little overkill, but like Linus I often forget about these topics fairly quickly as they're just temporary things.
@shater1164
@shater1164 4 роки тому
Mama mama where's muh penguin? All the best Mr. Linus Benedict Torvalds.
@famousmwofficial8046
@famousmwofficial8046 7 місяців тому
in linus own words we need to standardize the desktop.
@chris-hayes
@chris-hayes 3 роки тому
I love how "flame war" is no longer a niche term.
@cavelinguam6444
@cavelinguam6444 4 роки тому
awesome
@etaashmathamsetty7399
@etaashmathamsetty7399 2 роки тому
Wasn't this guy the same madman that slammed -Werror on the kernel
@jongxina3595
@jongxina3595 2 роки тому
The average person may not embrace Linux any time soon, but the tech community does 👍
@cpcnw
@cpcnw 4 роки тому
2019 - The Year of Linus's Grey Top!
@andmicbro1
@andmicbro1 3 роки тому
The sound in this video is all over the place. For the first half is was desynced, then it was nonexistant.
@godnyx117
@godnyx117 4 роки тому
WE LOVE YOU LINUS!!!!! Thanks to you I can proudly say, I use Arch btw!!!!!!
@TorBruheim
@TorBruheim 4 роки тому
Well, I do not think he will love yo back according to his own statement: "I am not a hugger" 🤣😅
@mikaeil3327
@mikaeil3327 3 роки тому
WE LOVE YOU BILL GATES!!!!! Thanks to you I can proudly say, I use Windows10 btw!!!!!!
@jacobo8773
@jacobo8773 2 роки тому
I like using Linux Debian on my Chromebox. Thats a big plus now on the chromebox.
@bobweiram6321
@bobweiram6321 3 роки тому
You can tell the host was born to compute when his namesake is a CPU instruction: Swap nil, bh[artiya]
@DaryxFox
@DaryxFox 4 роки тому
What is he talking about with the "secrecy" surrounding hardware bugs? Are the kernel developers keeping something from the public? If so, I may consider switching to Hurd sooner...
@LinusBerglund
@LinusBerglund 4 роки тому
They are required by HW vendors to not disclose anything to the public due to the risk of these things being exploited before there are mitigations. This is done for the safety of everyone. Releasing info about these things before there are mitigations in place would not only be a risk to a lot of people, but also stop the vendors from contacting you with info about certain sensitive vulnerabilities. The HURD people probably weren't notified about spectre or meltdown before the general public, so using that would have left you vulnerable. Say what you like about that practice, but that is how the industry works.
@FilipOscadal
@FilipOscadal 3 роки тому
hardware bugs = processor bugs mostly, or micro systems in some hardware
@MrLeo733
@MrLeo733 Рік тому
I am using linux mint distro and I am loving it ..
@portman8909
@portman8909 Рік тому
Great until you want to use something outside of the distro.
@ihspan6892
@ihspan6892 4 роки тому
Is it just me or you also feel that he is not in the best shape? I hope he still has many decades of productive life. Take care Linus!
@SupBro31
@SupBro31 4 роки тому
Jetlag?
@naskue4187
@naskue4187 2 роки тому
He does speak the truth about fragmentation
@MaxCoplan
@MaxCoplan 4 роки тому
PogChamp when Greg walks up
@arnoldvilleneuve8397
@arnoldvilleneuve8397 2 роки тому
I agree with everything Linus states about why the Linux Desktop has not achieved the status it should. Like it or not, the binary model for application delivery in Windows works for Users, as Linus calls them. He is right and people should listen, especially developers. The financial potential of displaying Windows Desktop OS is huge.
@phylwx
@phylwx 2 роки тому
"Ashamed of being in the USA" XD 15:03 BEST LINUS QUOTE IN DECADES!!!! OMG im dead.
@johnkunze5362
@johnkunze5362 11 місяців тому
PS. On fly Relocatable. K-OS is not x86 supportable! Only arm for beta. CPU must have PC relative branch and multi-stack.
@silverpc4611
@silverpc4611 3 роки тому
One question. How Linus feels about Raspberry Pi?
@Hammid
@Hammid 4 роки тому
Did you try turning it off and on again?
@eljuano28
@eljuano28 3 роки тому
😆
@paulnoecker1202
@paulnoecker1202 3 роки тому
funtoo's fchroot is the wave of the future for arm.
@reeeeeee551
@reeeeeee551 3 роки тому
2019 was wild
@sivasurrey
@sivasurrey 2 роки тому
I write commercial software. I dont care about the development language as long as someone supports it. I dont want to open the car bonnet and look at the engine. Current software developers can write open source software but cluless in understanding the customer
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