Living With An EV WITHOUT A Home Charger?
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День томуThinking about going electric but don't have the means to install your own charger at home? Fear not! This is the case for a huge proportion of EV owners, including our very own Jack Scarlett. In this video, we walk you through the many options available to those looking to run an EV without the luxury of their own personal driveway charger.
00:00 Can it even be done??
2:04 A lifetime sat at rapid chargers?
2:32 On-street charging explained
5:11 Case study: How Jack charges
7:35 No on-street charging near you?
11:45 What happens next?
12:16 How will we charge in the future?
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@slash196 Рік тому
Gotta be honest, if you live in a reasonably dense city, it's not that unusual to have to walk ten minutes to where you parked your car just because parking was hard to find the previous day.
@donpatricio1927 Рік тому
I bought an e-scooter for that. It's always in my trunk and if the parking is "far" away I use it.
@kennystrawnmusic Рік тому
@@donpatricio1927 Rack to hook a manual bike on also works. Whenever I have to go up to DTLA, that’s how I get around.
@artboymoy Рік тому
@@donpatricio1927 Brilliant.
@EdouardTavinor Рік тому
And if you don't have a car but use public transport, you're used to walking 10 minutes to the nearest bus stop or metro station anyway.
@NextNate03 Рік тому
If you live in a rural area, charger is 45+ miles away.
@marvbloke Рік тому
Don't forget workplace charging Jack. For some people without at-home charging options, they can just charge conveniently in their employer's car park while at work. There are lots of incentives to encourage their employer to install chargers too.
@MattOGormanSmith Рік тому
The downside there is you're using peak-rate, commercial tariff electricity, unless you're on the night shift or the factory has solar (or is a hydro dam). It's still cheaper than giving you petrol coupons of course.
@dvdglezs Рік тому
Not all companies allow charging at their sites
@ianrob4760 2 місяці тому
my company has one a deal with Genie nd 11p kwh for 7kw charging The problem ?? well I WFH ha ha .. just got an EV so will be going in next week to charge up whilst I wait for EV charger at home to be installed
@GeoffBee1 Рік тому
Jack, this video along with Robert's renewable energy videos should be mandatory watching for all local councils and government politicians. Keep spreading the good word!
@cocharger4630 Рік тому
That's exactly it - we're hoping the link to this vid becomes a standard in discussions with councils, fleets, politicians. It's SO needed!
@JackScarlett1 Рік тому
Love that! So much of this stuff seems so ridiculously obvious to those of us who own EVs that it's easy to forget how many people - including some in decision-making positions - aren't clued up on the basics
@halaltrips Рік тому
What's the renewable energy video? link pls :)
@grahamherbert3612 Рік тому
They're all bust, there's no money left for vanity projects and virtue signalling.
@Brian-om2hh 11 місяців тому
Agreed Geoff. Some Local Authorities seem completely oblivious to the fact they are eligible to access Government grants to cover much of the cost of installing public charging infrastructure. Plus there are grants available to Local Councils to fund the *complete* install of grids in pavements, to allow charge cables to pass beneath the surface of the pavement, for those who live in properties without a driveway.....
@recumbentrocks2929 Рік тому
That is such a practical video and clears up one of the most often quoted negatives about EV's "What if you don't have a drive?" Thanks Jack for making this so logical.
@tijgerhaai3 Рік тому
In the Dutch provinces of Noord-Holland, Flevoland, and Utrecht. You can request an on-street charger via MRA-e if there is none within 300 meters of your home or work. (And I'm pretty sure that's possible in other provinces too) With current energy prices, it's even cheaper than charging at home.
@tkskater1 Рік тому
Yep, I can vouch for Gelderland supporting a similar construction as well.
@JackScarlett1 Рік тому
Such a good policy!
@cocharger4630 Рік тому
We'd like to thank Jack and the Fully Charged crew for this wonderfully balanced, positive and informative video. We are very proud of whgat we've achieved with Co Charger but isn't a silver bullet - there aren't any and this vid hits the real message right on the head: don't let a lack of a home charge point put you off EVs. There are great solutions out there!
@fuzzylon Рік тому
Thanks for a very helpful video. This is also helpful for those who are holding back from installing a charge point at home until they have actually bought an electric car and need something to tide them over while they wait for theirs to be installed. One thing you could add when do an update video on this is spend a couple of minutes talking about what people who live in blocks of flats with off-street parking can do and what they can suggest to their management company to install. In some cases parking on-street to charge a car could be expensive just for the parking alone - particularly if you have your own off-street parking space which is free (or already paid for).
@jonathanhall8633 Рік тому
I live in Australia where the charging infrastructure is rubbish, but even so, not having a home charger (at least in a city) is not a problem. We just shop where we can charge, often for free, so pretty much whenever we’re shopping, we’re charging. That keeps the car topped up pretty well and for very little cost.
@RaphaeHalim Рік тому
❤ Awesome 👏🏽 video! I’m from India 🇮🇳 and though our charging network is not yet developed it’s amazing to know this is so easily possible. Most cities here have a parking space problem and this certainly shows how things can work out. I’m sharing this with EVSE OEMs, & CPOs. Thank you! 🙏🏽
@jameslewis2635 Рік тому
This is something that I have been concerned about as someone without a driveway who uses their car for work. As such, I do a lot of miles (around 70 - 100 miles per day). My main concern is that with all the charging networks in the UK being in private hands I would expect the cost of charging to be significantly higher than charging at home. Unfortunately I am going to have to pour some cold water on this guide as road side charging points are very hard to find outside of London. In fact, I have never even seen one.
@0-Will-0 Рік тому
Very true. I live in one of the largest cities in the UK and my nearest street charging is not walking distance from my house. Without a drive I would have to sit around on a fast charger a couple of times a week. Can't complain too much though as currently EVs get free parking in the city center and there's fast chargers there.
@MUFC1933 7 місяців тому
Must have changed now guys? Heck they’re even in lampposts round out way😮❤
@EVinstructor Рік тому
I’ve been an EV owner for 3.5 years. We have street lamp based chargers in Portsmouth and Southsea where I live and I have 4 near my home. One of them opposite my home. My EV is my personal car as well as my driving school car. My business relies on it getting charged. Charging on street has been reliable. In a city where off street parking is rare it can be easier getting a charge than parking an ICE car.
@richardnedbalek1968 Рік тому
I wish we had lamp pole chargers in the US. So practical and low-tech, provided you have your own cable.
@dougbamford Рік тому
@@richardnedbalek1968 Why is that? Is it because of the different voltage in the USA?
@richardnedbalek1968 Рік тому
@@dougbamford No, I charge all the time off my home 120V, 15A outlet. We just haven’t adopted this technique.
@dougbamford Рік тому
@@richardnedbalek1968 they aren't that common in the UK yet. But hopefully will be soon, since people can request them and they are (relatively) easy to install. I don't suppose there are many areas in the USA that need it since the country is so suburban. But seems necessary for the old cities (NY, Boston, Philly, San Fran).
@IDann1 Рік тому
I don’t have a driveway, but I just had two 22kw chargers installed right out side my office… all I need now is an electric car 🙂
@mikemellor759 Рік тому
Great overview with added credibility from Jack’s personal experience. Loved the animation & Jack’s delivery. 👏👏
@stopscammingman Рік тому
Nice to see things like this getting addressed
@Bruntygenius Рік тому
I am lucky enough to have a driveway with a charge but currently only have a PHEV (limited options for a 7seater) but I am so excited to find out the Fully Charge Live will be only 5 mins away from me in my home town of Harrogate! Really looking forward to it as I hope to get an EV very soon!
@richardnedbalek1968 Рік тому
Jack, thanks for sharing your positive experience of owning an all-electric car and charging it regularly without the ability to do so at home.
@stijnbode8448 Рік тому
I do exactly the same, I have a point A, B & C within 10 minute strolls from my home. And since I do drive a ton of kilometers I use fast chargers quite often. Luckily on my way to work (which can be wherever in the Netherlands) I always cross a lot of fast chargers and if I have a few minutes left before I need to go to work I just pop by a fast charger and give it some extra juice. Btw. In the Netherlands, if you don’t have your own driveway and no public charger within 300 meters of your home the municipality will arrange a public charger for you. So in a couple of months I will have a new (closer) option to charge. Driving an EV does make you plan all your trips a bit more but I really don’t mind doing so. If I can do it (I drive on average 1000 km a week) than everybody can do it. Thanks for the great video once again!
@RPRosen-ki2fk Рік тому
Jack, I found this to be one of your best vids as a presenter. Sometimes LESS is MORE, you're extremely likable here, and the knowledge you're sharing feels accurate/trustworthy. I hope to see much more of this side of you.
@danielhenderson7050 Рік тому
I liked it too, and I think he has been getting better and better in general. Btw, why doesn't Rob present much anymore? Also i just realized he was in Red Dwarf! 😲
@2036scott Рік тому
My wife has a Renault Zoe 40, she's had it for two years, we don't have a home charger, we can't even get closer than 20 m from our house, she has covered well over 12,000 miles, roughly costing about £30 max (extra conservative) but she charges at work for using the free public chargers, Easily doable, and she only charges once or maybe twice a week. I'm saving for an MG 5 because I want an estate.
@prism6 4 місяці тому
Brilliant video! Answered every question I had and more
@fastfoodi Рік тому
When I got my EV ~4 years ago, there was minimal charging infrastructure around, and I don't have a garage. So, I was having to either slow charge from a standard power point in my parking lot or walk 10 minutes to a L2 charger (2-3 locations to choose from). TBH, managing it all was a fun game I had to play in my head, but I had the freedom and ability to do it. Since then, local charging infrastructure has come quite a ways, and I now have an L2 charging station in my building. But I can see how this approach could be quite inconvenient and impractical for someone else.
@mtumasz Рік тому
9 months and 15000 km in, I can confirm: Yes you can lead a busy EV family life without a socket where we park at home.
@nielsvandenkieboom5034 Рік тому
13 months, 35000 km and a trip through Croatia and Italy included I can confirm the same. Never had range anxiety.
@JackScarlett1 Рік тому
Amen!
@michaelgoode9555 7 місяців тому
Warwickshire County Council has started a six month trial for kerbside home charging. We joined the trial yesterday and have already done our first charge. We usually need to charge once or twice weekly so we should be able to ensure that our car is in front of the house when needed. Oh, we do not have a charger as such but we have a 16 amp charger with a 10 metre lead and an appropriate socket on the front of the house. Using cheap overnight electricity will work for us.
@ElectricCarAustralia Рік тому
This was a great video for newbies. Love the easy, comical nature of delivery. 👍
@ALMX5DP Рік тому
I think the difference is that charging may have to be a more deliberate and planned event instead of what we’ve become accustomed to with ICE and being able to spontaneously fill up.
@rogerstarkey5390 Рік тому
I'd say the opposite. Charging will be comparable to parking in a city and paying for parking (or for the old gits, "feeding a meter"). You will just plug in and graze charge when you stop, whenever you stop, without thinking. You will always have to make "a deliberate journey" to fill an ICE.
@colinwiseman Рік тому
@@rogerstarkey5390 exactly. If lots of cars have the contactless charging or even the Sono Sion drip charge via solar, we'll have fleets of cars rarely hitting the forecourts.
@ALMX5DP Рік тому
@@rogerstarkey5390 hopefully in the future it turns out to be that commonplace. But I think right now there is a distinct difference in how one has to go about filling up their vehicle.
@rp9674 Рік тому
Sometimes more convenient sometimes less convenient, always worth it
@DokterRoetker Рік тому
Depends on location. When on holiday in Italy or France, I really needed an app to search for a charger. But at home in the Netherlands, almost every street has some chargers, my street even has 8 of them for just 2 small blocks. So yeah, charging is more convenient then making a detour to a gas pump.
@AdamPearce Рік тому
As always Jack - enjoyable and informative. I live in a city in Canada (Toronto) and our public network is an omnishambles. 1 DC fast charger exists within 5 km of my home. And maybe 10 level 2 chargers - but you have to hunt them. BUT even with this paltry situation I can find the electricity I need (and retain the electric smug).
@Kvickification Рік тому
Same in Gothenburg Sweden.
@quixomega Рік тому
I also live in Toronto, the situation here is so bad I decided it wasn't feasible to buy an EV since I cannot charge at home so I bought a hybrid for now.
@bm8641 Рік тому
Toronto Hydro is subordinated to the City Hall .... You have what you vote
@AdamPearce Рік тому
@@quixomega I'm not sure it is so bad that one has to default to a hybrid but i understand the temptation. Looking at the map you can see how the chargers are almost exclusively pooled in the downtown core. In some ways this makes sense for commuters coming from out of the city - but if you live in a condo in outside the core, or you street park - this could be a very frustrating situation. Without a doubt we need to do better with the charging infrastructure.
@AdamPearce Рік тому
@@bm8641 unclear what you mean here. Why would hydro object to chargers? Why would city hall (especially if linked to the existing infrastructure)?
@j5s9c 10 місяців тому
Very helpful and interesting video. Some great innovative ideas out there too. One thing that worries me though is increasing cable theft. I don't leave my car when charging anywhere that other people have access too, public stations or overnight. Good work.
@marcel3045 Рік тому
Congrats for your Polestar 2 - I have one, too, and I‘m in the lucky situation to charge at home, with a PV solar roof.
@judebrown4103 Рік тому
Nice one Jack. I can't charge at home but did my research on ZapMap and decided to go for it with an ev a few weeks ago. Started off using sip charging at Tesco but we shop so quickly it wasn't really worth the hassle. Then we spent a pleasant Sunday lunchtime in our local Premier Inn with a ginger beer whilst it charged to 80%on their rapid BP Pulse charger. Found that to be very good value once the bp card arrived and discovered we could save money shopping at the Aldi on the same site so it did us a favour in more ways than one. I got so engrossed finding my way round the shop the first time that the car was at 100% by the time I got back. Pleased to report that our Ioniq 38kWh suggested we would get 216 miles on the full charge after four or five weeks driving so we must be doing something right. I'm working on our Green councillors to get a slow charger fitted near to us in the village but they're not having much luck persuading their colleagues as yet. I'm sure it'll happen eventually. Research and persuasive powers are what you need to get charged it seems!
@cocharger4630 Рік тому
Do give Co Charger a look. Even if there's no Host in walking distance from your home (the chances are pretty good that there is) you can set up a free account in a couple of minutes and get notified when a Host sets up nearby.
@judebrown4103 Рік тому
@@cocharger4630 thanks, I will. At one stage I did have the app on my old phone but as I hadn't got an ev at that point and my phone was needing space I had to uninstall it. 👍
@TheEVside Рік тому
Great video, now 4 years no home charging and been fine so far with up to 300 miles a week it’s all possible as long as you want to do it
@cocharger4630 Рік тому
Give Co Charger a go!
@byGDur Рік тому
Super cool, thank you for the overview!
@danielmadar9938 Рік тому
Thank you Jack. A great summary of the field.
@RWoody1995 Рік тому
Currently driving an i3 (company car) and charging it solely at work, kinda helps that my job is designing EV chargers so we have a lot of them at the office to plug into but still... companies with on site parking should all have as many of their parking spaces have EVSEs as possible, will take a huge chunk out of the number of cars that will even need on street parking which'll help the people who cant charge at work as their nearest on street chargers will be more likely free day to day.
@MrJozza65 Рік тому
One major problem with on street charging, is that some of the kids where I live think it's a great laugh to unplug cars which are charging during the night, so you would wake up to a car that hadn't been charged. Is there a standardised way to lock the charge cable onto the charge sockets so you can only remove it if you have a key? If not, it could be a good idea for a standard lock to be designed.
@ramblerandy2397 Рік тому
When a car is charging the plug [plugs for untethered chargers] is locked into the socket. New EV owners probably have more issues getting the plug out of the socket than any other problem until they find out the correct procedure. Read the manual or watch an appropriate UKposts video.
@MrJozza65 Рік тому
@@ramblerandy2397 True, although if there isn't a key involved, kids round here will have learnt how to do it.
@sahhull Рік тому
@@MrJozza65 Theres also the folks who cut and steal the live cable as the car is charging.
@Mykle1AZ Рік тому
Great video and yes, it can be done...We live in the south of France, and don't have a way to charge in in our parking area. There are three public chargers fairly close to our home: 1) at the train station, a ten min walk. 2) at the grocery store (LeClerc) which is about 20 min walk. 3) at grocery store (LIDL) which is 20 min walk. LIDL charges per kWh. LeClerc gives the first 15 minutes free at their charger, then you pay by kWh. The train station charges per minute (which is bad, as it takes twice as long if another car is plugged in). Needless to say, we choose LeClerc and we do most of our weekly shopping there. We don't often have to sit and wait, the charge while shopping is sufficient for our general driving pattern. It's good marketing on their part. We've had our EV for over a year and this has worked out fine for us.
@fromtheblonx Місяць тому
This was fab! Thanks mate!
@uproid Рік тому
You may have mentioned this, so if you did sorry I missed it, but the other thing that is becoming more common is provision of chargers at workplaces, so if you can't charge overnight at home, you can charge whilst you are at work during the day.
@JackScarlett1 Рік тому
100%. We need a LOT more of this.
@TimMoore1 Рік тому
Picking random on street charging points with no allocated space is going to cause rage from residents who hate people parking outside their house or in that spot they regularly use. I can see a lot of vandalism of cables while your car is out of sight streets away.
@sahhull Рік тому
In areas that have EV's They are cutting and stealing charge cables from cars that are actively charging. Where my buddy lives theres 50 houses, no driveways and 3 street lamps. They often have to park a few streets away.
@schoenimzweitakt Рік тому
Thanks for your well balanced overview on this topic. I deliberately got into owning an EV without the option of charging at home because I can do it at work and with that it‘s abolutely no problem. The only problems are charging-companies not caring much about maintaining their chargers. When you are on a trip, having a charching stop planned and the chargers aren‘t working, that‘s annoying. Second problem is the hummer boy of my city. Hummer boy and co love to park at charging spots, even if they are EV only. City doesn‘t care much and I‘ve often been in the situation where I just could not charge anywhere near my home because chargers were all blocked by hummer boys. These were the only times I seriously thought about getting rid of my EV, if there is no change of my city looking after this problem. Cheers!
@stanislavjaracz Рік тому
Thank you Jack. This is super impactful. We need to implement these solutions in USA.
@kirkwcowgill Рік тому
The first year I had my Model X, I didn't have my own charger. I just went to a supercharger about once a week. It wasn't a problem at all.
@wolvoman1 4 дні тому
It would have been when your battery suffers from constant super charging
@roblatchford5923 Рік тому
Jack is total eye candy ❤ I don’t own an electric car here in NZ but it’s always good to watch is presentation skills 😊
@andrewjoy8364 Рік тому
We‘ve been using public on the street charging in Cologne, Germany since mid December 2021. Works fine as does the Ionity network when traveling.
@skyearthocean5815 Рік тому
The first two years I had my Model 3 I didn't have home charging, there was a place 2 miles away with a great coffee shop, a gym, and even an aviation museum, I'd hang out at the coffee shop or workout while the car charged, it could be a bit of a hassle, but not terrible.
@WildfireWhiz-bangs Рік тому
I’m here a little off topic… we’re trying to build a better world here and that goes for more than just the clean energy transition. Another big step will be Jack and Robert no longer using self deprecating humor ❤️ you’re not idiots, you’re great and you’re doing amazing work!
@RupertBear412 Рік тому
I was ok like jack until the explosion in numbers of company car EVs last year with massive batteries and then it became near impossible to find a charger and I went back to a diesel after 1.5 years of EV ownership - depends where you live but it was completely unmanageable for me
@rogerstarkey5390 Рік тому
As a "company car driver" (mobile technician) most mileage is not near what would be classed as "EV exclusive" parking. It's from/ to the customer, on motorway or trunk roads, then parking on customer premises. Those of us who do work in a city either use public transport or won't need to charge due to the reduced mileage. I would suggest the "McCharge" type infrastructure is where most business loading would occur (other fast food charging will be available....) . EDIT Just to say... "The cars with massive batteries" won't need to charge.
@jonathantaylor1998 Рік тому
Great, personal insight in to charging without home access, Jack - that was really good of you to allow the FC audience a small peek in to your world. 😇 Interestingly, whilst I wasn't exactly enamoured to hear, recently, of my local Council's permission for a 70-house estate to be built a few 100 yards from my doorstep, in reading their planning agreement with the developer, I was at least pleased to see that all 70 homes are to have "one dedicated 3.5kW charger per dwelling". They don't get a lot 'right', our lot, but hats off to them for that...! 😉
@MrJuego Рік тому
Bought my EV 2 weeks ago, don't have my own charger nor can I run a cable for the granny charger, but there's plenty of chargers nearby to me or I'm happy to sit in the car for a while. One of the places I use is a 15 minute walk from my partners flat. It's encouraging me to walk more and I'm enjoying it tbh.
@doctorbashir3497 Рік тому
I installed one at my office. It makes a huge difference and other people then bought EV’s
@cocharger4630 Рік тому
That's the way to go! If the office is near a residential area you can also make it a Community Charger out of hours via Co Charger.
@Techtonicuk Рік тому
Yep, I charge without my own home charger using the public network. Charging cost outside my house on a Ubitricity charger when I ordered my Tesla in March was 0.22p kWh. I finally got the Tesla delivered last month, and yesterday the price to charge increased to 0.55p kWh. Its a 5kW charger as well, so it's pretty slow but now the price difference between a 250kW and 5kW charger isn't that different.
@NealeUpstone Рік тому
FYI. kWh is the total energy delivered. kW is the power - the rate the energy is delivered. So it's 0.22p/kWh (energy) and your battery has a capacity of e.g. 55kWh or 80kWh. The chargers have a rate: 250kW or 5kW. Hope that helps. You could think if it as: kWh is like gallons. kW is like gallons per minute, and also like horsepower.
@t3chnno Рік тому
Ubitricity charges are a ridiculous since the start of October.
@Techtonicuk Рік тому
@@t3chnno Might as well just charge at Shell Recharge locations or at a Tesla supercharger. Ubitricity is just going up and up, I think it went up to 49p last month, and now to 55p so quickly.
@Techtonicuk Рік тому
@@NealeUpstone thanks for the explanation.
@Tresla Рік тому
That's still eye-wateringly high. You're paying about the same as you would if you owned a petrol car.
@NAY2GAS 3 місяці тому
I Charge out my Kitchen window to a street pole where I attached a stainless steel zip tie and I run my cord through that zip tie and down the pole and across the roof of my car and down into the charge port. When I am all done, all cables get pulled back into my kitchen.
@aikidoshi007 Рік тому
Great video, thanks! I'm renting in Australia and have a driveway so I just use an extension cord to charge my Tesla at home in off-peak times.
@Strawbugs Рік тому
Brilliant and really helpful in trying to bring co-workers into the EV world. Thanks!
@alistairl Рік тому
Thanks for this - I've an EV on order and no driveway; I still have moments when I think I'm crazy but I'll work it out. PS what did you do with Robert - stealing his office and all (and yes I know it's a green screen)?
@rp9674 Рік тому
I would do it. Crazy like a fox, hungry like the wolf.
@emu3545 5 днів тому
How did it go? Was it doable?
@1mw2mam 6 місяців тому
Great video and very useful ideas and advice. I did a Belgium-France trip this year. Initially I planned stops at high speed chargers at service stations but then I realized I could find public chargers on streets and in city center car parks and charge overnight whilst sleeping in the local hotel a lower cost. I was always was able to find a charger in small northern France and Belgium towns (though sometimes there would be one out of order!).
@loriallen67 Рік тому
Great video! Really important to spreading credible info that solves problems.
@clementolesen4766 Рік тому
I live in Denmark. First 1.5 years of owning an EV I didnt have my own charger. I needed to charge 1-2 times a week. Had several options: charging at work, rapid charging at a local supermarket, or using a couple of slow chargers 1 km away. Not once did I need juice for my car in that period. That being said I love having my own charger now 😆
@phiiz3r Рік тому
Yeah for those that drive to work or somewhere they will be for a while, that opens up another area to look for places to slow charge.
@cangaroojack Рік тому
This maybe a very sumb question, but let's say i park my car near a charging pole and let it charge overnight, is there some mechanism to prevent someone from unplugging the car?
@chow-chihuang4903 Рік тому
Is workplace charging not common enough?
@bellshooter Рік тому
Not for us Pensioners! 🤣
@laloajuria4678 Рік тому
nonexistent.
@kennystrawnmusic Рік тому
Doesn’t work for those of us whose office IS their car. Food delivery drivers for services like DoorDash and Uber Eats (case in point: yours truly) are of course cases in point on that front.
@rjmunro Рік тому
It certainly exists. My brother mostly charges his car at his work car park. He works at an Amazon warehouse, and they have something like 100 chargers in their car park, with the electric connections to add more as more employees need them,
@TimMoore1 Рік тому
Some workplaces are threatening staff just for charging their phones in the office! 😄
@mcgowee Рік тому
Great video I've been thinking about these issues in Denver/Boulder CO Have my own level 2 in my parking space, but I'm trying to convert others to EVs.
@100eoinw Рік тому
I live in London with pretty much the same option and the difference in cost of the different options is huge. The cheapest overnight rate if I can charge from a home charger is less than 10p per kWh, ubitricity from the lamppost is 50p and the big source London chargers are 59p if you pay the monthly membership -
@rick74304 Рік тому
Welcome to the new normal, its not like i.c.e owners have gas stations in their garage
@6chhelipilot Рік тому
No, but they are always within range and are more plentiful. Electric charging in the UK is woeful.
@bellshooter Рік тому
@@6chhelipilot I disagree, it's not great but go to Spain for woeful! I have multiple Rapid and standard chargers within a couple of miles, at 3 or 4 supermarkets I often use, at a pub/restaurant , and at a local car park near many amenities...
@kennystrawnmusic Рік тому
@@bellshooter Same here in California. There are 10+ rapid charging stations within 5 miles of me, including a multi-stall EA station at the Target in Rancho Santa Margarita and a Tesla Supercharger at the Shops at Mission Viejo. About half as many as there are gas stations and 3 times as many as there are hydrogen stations (which I currently use).
@RupertReynolds1962 Рік тому
@@6chhelipilot Woeful some in places, perhaps. Around Kendal there are chargers at several supermarkets, and even one by the register office. At Sainsburglary there are two Podpoint 7kW chargers, and all the rest are faster. I don't often see all the chargers in use at any one spot.
@RPRosen-ki2fk Рік тому
@@kennystrawnmusic Whatever possessed you to go hydrogen?
@ashtaroth1975 Рік тому
I charge my car on a 50 kW unit while i walk my dog
@pjeaton58 Місяць тому
Get your dog to tow the car while on re-gen, charges car and exercises dog all for the cost of a can of dog food ! PS you will need a 50 Kw dog !
@heatherdelacroix6906 Рік тому
Great info. I've been driving electric for over 5 years with no home chargers.
@stopscammingman Рік тому
Thanks for making it simple
@swecreations Рік тому
There's even more possibilities as well, like for example charging at your work or plugging in to fastcharger when eating lunch
@ShortVersion1 Рік тому
When we first got a Leaf, we lived in Atlanta. Never really paid to charge, as all of our apartments either had level 2 chargers in the garage (paid monthly fee to park anyway), or eventually we just would trickle charge from a regular outlet in the parking garage. On top of that, nearly everywhere we regularly went had free level 2 chargers; the mall, the food court, the museum, Whole Foods... all for free. When we moved to Colorado, we noticed a sharp fall-off in free public chargers. There is one in the park two minutes walk from here, but we've never used it because we installed one in our garage. It's been interesting to talk about charger availability with locals, since they maybe assume there aren't any. In reality, everyone has a garage, and our utility company will pay half the cost of a charger installed (up to $1,000). It's two sides of a specific coin, and not representative of major first world cities (ATL doesn't count LOL), so hopefully more of the street-light chargers pop up. It is fascinating to see the situation unfold over the years.
@georgegeorgiy3516 Рік тому
Good one, love all that info. 👍
@colintwyning9614 Рік тому
Great video. I have no home charge for my EV but i get along fine. One anecdote, i found several ubitricity lamposts vandalised, i presume to stop people charging all day/night in their favoured parking spot. Nimby's are alive and kicking.
@MjMurphy777 Рік тому
So many new options covered in this clip👏. Well done👍
@wojciechmuras553 Рік тому
Market chargers are great. 50 kW DC is plenty to recharge an EV during your weekly shopping errands!
@PM-hq7ll Рік тому
Very good - I am the same, no home charger and it's not a problem at all.Interesting re Carbo - You can also protect the cable going across the pavement with one of many products on sale at Amazon which I sometimes do.Look up your local councils guidance first though..
@dougbamford Рік тому
Great idea for a video - this should provide people living in cities with the reassurance they need that electric car ownership is viable. My only comment was that Jack used the acronym OEM at one point and few people will know what that means.
@Nomanspie 5 місяців тому
That curbo idea is amazing. Thats the perfect solution for someone who's house is close to the pavement.
@JazHaz Рік тому
A timely video for us, having ordered a Renault Zoe R135 via the Motability scheme. We dont have off street parking. Interesting concept on the Charge Fairy app but only applies to cars that are online, not the Zoe. Motability have supplied us with a three year membership of the BP charging scheme, saving about 8p per kWh on their usual rates.
@caspianprince Рік тому
No driveway here. Sod it, installing Pod Point in porch, will trail cable over pavement and stick a protector over it and charge it later in the evening. Pavement is only 2ft wide anyway. Fortunately no-one else ever parks in front of my house.
@CausticLemons7 Рік тому
Some really cool services I haven't heard of until now. I hope they catch on and spread!
@trueriver1950 Рік тому
4:50 in my area the on street chargers that stick up out of the pavement have a 3hr time limit. Great for a top up, but not for an all night session. And you have to remember to come back and mine the car later on when all the other parking in the area has been snapped up
@ericanunda 4 місяці тому
Thanks for the honest review. I live in London in an apartment. Insurance for Tesla is to high and I don't have a charger near me
@shaffermarkshaffer Рік тому
Appreciate that this is designed to be relevent outside the UK but I am missing the cost comparison bit. I know historically Fully Charged tends to avoid this but I think it dulls down the contents a little. Makes it a touch remote.
@mike.n.davies Рік тому
I think a big omission was to not state the obvious (to EV owners) that you don't need to charge every night, which many think is the case. This makes running an EV without off street parking even easier. You do mention it in passing that you rarely use the car's full charge in a day, but this point is lost on those new to EV. I do like the premise of it being easy to live with, so well done for highlighting it and backing it up with personal experience.
@bellofbelmont Рік тому
Thanks. Jim Bell (Australia)
@ruckus7041 Рік тому
Live in the LA area and do not have an electric car but would like one so where to charge is important, to say the least. Just searched and Los Angles County has a map of public charging stations. Don't see many street parking charging stations but there are some. And as I live, as many do, in an apartment with no charging, public charging is not just important, it is all there is. The last place I lived installed 5 charge spaces in the underground parking garage. Not all that cheap but still, made it possible.
@davesworld7961 Рік тому
don't know if anyone is doing this yet but I think the tech for it is around the corner. It would work similar to Charge Fairy but it would be a drone that could self drive to your location and park in front of your vehicle, slide a wireless charger under your car, charge it and go to the next stop or back to it's base to recharge. I imagine each could serve a specific neighborhood or small town. Neither the car owner or a tech would need to be present for the charge. You would order a charge through an app. If the drone was tall and slim it could just park in the same parking spot and if it could maneuver sideways the drone may even be able to fit between cars parked closely on the street.
@someoneelse7629 Рік тому
Here, a supermarket has free 2kw outlets for electrical cars, for while you are shopping, you will not fill up, but you will get back the energy you lost by driving there to shop and come out to a warm car in the winter. There is also fastchargers there, but they are not free.
@richharper8159 Рік тому
Great vid. It's a no-brainer that connectivity of power will become huge in the next 20 years. Everything will be electric, which means everything and everyone can trade and sell power (if you make it, you can sell it - but taxes will always apply). Your families, your neighbour, your local shop, your school, your business, your council, the grid will see a constant flow of power in and out. Every country will need more electricians and even more programmers!
@Gwydion67 Рік тому
Although here in Germany laws and political goals and priorities may differ from those in the UK, the principle is the same. I very much appreciate your shown options for use as arguments in discussions. Aa a tenant in a rutal locality I am lucky to own my smal "grid supported island solar PV", assembling my own 230V outside house socket, allowing me to plug-charge without even opening a window. But the best: My employer build a charging park at his property, letting anyone charge for no fee. This may be not an option for everyone, but an additional option anyway.
@Alex-tj1zo Рік тому
A very nice guide 👍😀
@EugeneLambert Рік тому
Short and sweet (not Jack obvs, who could never be accused of being short!), and full of useful thought-provoking information. Fabby McFab.
@ramblerandy2397 Рік тому
Try asking the question that I did at work - "Can we have a charger installed here?" 4 months later there were two Zappi Type 2 chargers [sorry "EVSE" equipment for the proper name] installed. It cost the company nothing, via govt grant, and charging is free. Btw, I'm not an executive, nor on the board. Just an ordinary employee. I don't have a driveway. So try asking. If they refuse you're no worse off than if you hadn't asked. I have been emailing my Southampton city council for the best part of 5 years, to try to get residential EVSEs. We have residential car parks where I live. One or two per car park, linked to one's electricity account, would entirely solve the problem. Will they do it or something like it? Not a chance in hell. I'm told to drive into the city centre 5 miles away and charge there. Good eh? Thank goodness for the company I work for.
@camneilsen8234 Рік тому
Loved the Kryton head / molds 👍🏻
@emgee44 Рік тому
My biggest problem is finding a parking space in general. With local councils building housing left and right and centre with no thought for parking, finding a space, even if you have a parking permit, is becoming a battle within its self. Even if by some magical fairy one could convert all cars to electric over night , where are we going to park them? Nice video Jack, I currently drive Niro Hev coz: A. It’s what I could afford and B. I don’t have easy access to a charger, but it’s certainly food for thought.
@kdjorgensen98 Рік тому
Was still in an apartment when I got my ev. Got lucky and found a lvl 2 charger at the end of the block through plugshare! Since I have a dog who needs to be walked, it was much hassle to go down there once a week and drop off/pick-up the car for overnight charging.
@Astrophysikus Рік тому
Here in Vienna, we are lucky to have a very high density of public 11 kW on-street chargers. I have three chargers with two dedicated spaces each within five minutes walking distance. I have been quite happy with that for the last 18 months or so, no need for a charger of my own at all.
@briangriffiths114 Рік тому
That was interesting and very well presented. I took a look at the Kerbo product, which I cannot envisage Councils refusing to grant permission for, and it is a game changer. As an interim solution, I would use a 1.2 m stepover which bridges most residential pavements in my locality.
@cocharger4630 Рік тому
We love those. One UK council is looking to incentivise using those IF the owner becomes a Co Charger Host. That way their investment becomes a boost for the community's decarbonisation rather than just the owner. Lovely thinking!
@andersn8547 Рік тому
Brilliant as always, Jack!
@brunoethier896 Рік тому
there is also the option of charging at work when available, perfectly doable if it is a simple Lvl2 7kW.
@ab-tf5fl Рік тому
One word of caution for the "charge near home" idea. If you live in an area where parking is expensive, you will likely have to pay for parking to access the charger - even if the charger itself is cheap or free - and the parking fees can make charging considerably more expensive than gas/diesel if you're not careful. This is especially true if you are already paying a monthly parking fee for home parking without charging, and the sole value to you of the $5/hour parking garage is access to the charger. In many cases, the best place for a city dweller to charge is actually in the suburbs (but by attaching charging to a trip you're making anyway, not making a special trip, just to charge). Rapid charging may seem more expensive than level 2 charging, but if you're not paying for the parking space, it can be quite often considerably cheaper.
@Ahrimas Рік тому
I don't know if I'm missing a search term here... But where I live your options are the fast chargers at Asda or Lidl. That's it. Now this is a pretty small town where most have driveways but not all
@chrisdrye2600 Рік тому
Great video - you forgot to mention lobbying your employer to install ample chargers in the workplace car park (assuming you commute by car to a work car park of course!)
@JackScarlett1 Рік тому
Great point.
@psycikramblings4564 Рік тому
Any link to that curb-o thing. I’ve seen local issue where people have cables across a footpath or in a tree. Wondered if local council would approve it
@r0a85 Рік тому
I searched for this, could not find anything. It looks like a perfect solution
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