Long Term Naturehike 60l backpack review

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Novice Wild Camper

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Hi guys. I was waiting to do this review when I saw a review by Luke from The Outdoor Gear Review saying this was the worst backpack in the world. A bold claim. Many people commented on his video disagreed with him stating that the majority of the issues were simply not an issue. So I decided to bring forward this review out based on a years usage where I have had this bag on every trip I have made. Don't get me wrong, it's not perfect for everyone..... but it's far from the worst bag in the world.
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КОМЕНТАРІ: 319
@NoviceWildCamper
@NoviceWildCamper 2 роки тому
For some reason youtube blocked out the channel banner for the mentioned youtuber so if you're wondering what that video sign is at the beginning that's why 🤷🏼‍♂️
@NoviceWildCamper
@NoviceWildCamper 2 роки тому
No it was removed before it went up. I watched it after I uploaded in private mode so he wouldn't have seen it, plus let's face it, he ain't ever gonna watch my little old channel 🤣
@tanvirrahman2997
@tanvirrahman2997 2 роки тому
@@NoviceWildCamper Dear Novice Wild Camper, I watched your review video about Long Term Naturehike 60l backpack review on UKposts, and you really have done a great job on this. I love your video style very much. We are setting up a new business on[ camping chair] and hope to extend our business. So can you test the product for us? We will appreciate it and we can pay for your effort. Best Regards
@NoviceWildCamper
@NoviceWildCamper 2 роки тому
@@tanvirrahman2997 hi. Yes sure. Are you on Facebook to contact directly?
@NoviceWildCamper
@NoviceWildCamper 9 місяців тому
@@tanvirrahman2997 never did hear back from you.
@daveyhawkins8285
@daveyhawkins8285 Місяць тому
Thank you for this review. Saw the other review with Luke first and thought I’d made a mistake with this purchase. Thanks for the thorough balanced review.
@NoviceWildCamper
@NoviceWildCamper Місяць тому
Cheers buddy. Its been a faultless pack since I've had it 👍
@chrisweldon2817
@chrisweldon2817 2 роки тому
Brilliant video and excellent review. Whenever I see posts about people asking about what bag to buy, I'll happily post pros and cons of the ones I have but always add the caveat of that like all camping kit it's a very personal choice and what works for one will not work for another.
@NoviceWildCamper
@NoviceWildCamper 2 роки тому
Exactly. To say its the worst bag in the world is a ridiculous comment. Does this mean he has the best house, car and camping equipment in the world just cos it works for him? 🤣 each to their own and horses for courses I say. Cheers Chris 👍
@bideogaga
@bideogaga Рік тому
I watched the other review first. Couldn't believe from the few things he said that it was that bad a bag. Especially to the point he said "DO NOT BUY". So I really appreciate this honest review from you countering some of the things he said. For the price this appears to be a rather decent bag for many situations. Thanks for your efforts to inform!
@NoviceWildCamper
@NoviceWildCamper Рік тому
Thanks Kevin. Much appreciated. Its sad that he has the power to possibly ruin a decent product but I suppose that's what happens when you get too big. I've had this 18 months or so now and its a great bag that I would highly recommend 👍
@username-mc7jw
@username-mc7jw 2 роки тому
Awesome and honest review. Thanks for sharing your apparently magical ability to take and replace water bottles from pockets too. I have had this pack for about a year, and I really like it a lot. I also have the 40L version as well. I haven't been able to take that one on a hike yet.
@NoviceWildCamper
@NoviceWildCamper 2 роки тому
Took years of training in the magic circle to be able to do that. Penn and Teller still can't work it out 😂 cheers for watching.
@hoser7706
@hoser7706 Рік тому
I just watched his video then stumbled upon yours. Fantastic counter and great demonstrations. Subscribed right away. No train-wreck videos here so thank you!!!
@NoviceWildCamper
@NoviceWildCamper Рік тому
Thanks buddy. I'm hoping his video recommends mine 🤣
@brockdelorenzo7505
@brockdelorenzo7505 Рік тому
I am a 5 foot nine mail at about 210 pounds. Backpack fits me great. I took off the cordage on the side and replaced it with bungee cord and attached it into extra areas. Works fantastic. I also took the bungee cord and crisscrossed it over the pouch in the back. This gives me the ability to hang some clothes to dry him to store some extra items. I love the pack. I agree with your pros and cons.
@NoviceWildCamper
@NoviceWildCamper Рік тому
Thanks. Yes I agree it's not just for tall people soong as you're wearing it right. I am also going to do this changes to it but at the moment doing a long term review on the qidian Pro.👍
@acnud
@acnud 2 роки тому
Great reply to the "famous tuber". I have the bag and love it mainly because of the frame. I used a frameless bag before and the difference is huge for comfort. Folk say " you get what pay for" but this bag is superb value.
@NoviceWildCamper
@NoviceWildCamper 2 роки тому
Exactly. I understand its not perfect but the worst bag in the world??? Slight exaggeration 😂 atb 👍
@davidminor6537
@davidminor6537 Рік тому
Thank you for providing the rebuttal to previous "reviews" of this pack. Looks like excellent value for the asking price.
@NoviceWildCamper
@NoviceWildCamper Рік тому
It is. Check my more recent video after nearly two years use where i compare it to the 3FUL qidian Pro. Amazing difference. 👍ukposts.info/have/v-deo/sHthh5d8sX6X0Js.html
@davidminor6537
@davidminor6537 Рік тому
@@NoviceWildCamper Very interesting. The proof is in the pudding as they say. Love your channel. Just stumbled upon it today. Excellent content.
@NoviceWildCamper
@NoviceWildCamper Рік тому
Thanks David 👍
@AdventureVibes-gb6cm
@AdventureVibes-gb6cm 6 місяців тому
Really appreciate this video. Five minutes before I watched the video you are referring to and was so disappointed and something told me to hang ten and see for a second review and came across your video Thank you I will definitely be purchasing 🙏
@NoviceWildCamper
@NoviceWildCamper 6 місяців тому
It's a great back. Still use it but currently testing out the 3ful qidian Pro due to the previously models failure. 👍
@MegaMastiffman
@MegaMastiffman 2 роки тому
I have this pack like it. It is an entry level UL pack for some it’s priced right and served me very well I did upgrade to a ULA pack mostly because I wanted more space but it cost $300+ and I’m keeping the nature hike it fit me fine and I’m 5’11 150 ponds and blindingly good looking. Great review!!
@NoviceWildCamper
@NoviceWildCamper 2 роки тому
Thanks brendan. Yes uts a great pack, not as ultralight as some but for £50 you can't beat it. Cheers for watching 👍
@ndsailor
@ndsailor 2 роки тому
Well spoken, demonstrated and explained…nicely done.
@NoviceWildCamper
@NoviceWildCamper 2 роки тому
Thanks Rick. I found it hard not to be a little sarcastic 🤣👍
@ndsailor
@ndsailor 2 роки тому
@@NoviceWildCamper It’s a bit like a guy who drives a Cadillac telling the guy (me) who drives a Jeep that your car sucks. Different uses and expectations. I doubt whether a person who drives a Cadillac would know the capabilities of a Jeep and vice/versa.
@wozwandering4255
@wozwandering4255 2 роки тому
Great perspective and review of the bag Mike some very valid advice 💪💪👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿
@NoviceWildCamper
@NoviceWildCamper 2 роки тому
Cheers buddy. I was going to put a long term review up anyway but he spurred me on a little and I get defensive 😂
@jamicrawford6729
@jamicrawford6729 2 роки тому
Ended the last 500 miles of 2021 exclusively with this pack. Not one single problem. I stand by this back if you are a taller person with a long medium to larger torso. Never once a shoulder or neck issue due to the strap design. Gonna exclusively use this pack for the enter year of 2022, meaning this pack will get around another 2500-3000 miles this year. I will check in periodically with the pack as I can. It's gonna get 125 miles between now and Monday to further start the new year off right. It got 77 miles between 12/31/21 and 1/2/22. (47 of those 1/1-1/2 to start the year off with its first trip of 22'). We have trips for every weekend in January with this weekend being the longest and the other trips between 55-75 or so miles so January 22 is gonna see plenty of action with this pack for the new year). Happy New Year!
@NoviceWildCamper
@NoviceWildCamper 2 роки тому
Happy new year to you too. You're right there is nothing wrong with this bag. Took mine out for a hike and camp two days ago as haven't had it out for a while and no issues at all, quite the opposite. 👍
@davidstarkey9983
@davidstarkey9983 2 роки тому
My daughter bought this and loves it and completely agress with your review.
@NoviceWildCamper
@NoviceWildCamper 2 роки тому
Cheers David. As I said it won't fit everyone or work for everyone as we're all different but to say its the worst bag in thr world is a ridiculous statement. Atb 👍
@jeffsutanto
@jeffsutanto 13 днів тому
Thank you for honest review...
@NoviceWildCamper
@NoviceWildCamper 13 днів тому
No probs buddy 👍
@jamicrawford6729
@jamicrawford6729 2 роки тому
68 miles on the AT in Virginia this past four days. I had the pack loaded with 22.5 pounds total weight for the four day trip. I had zero issues with the pack. There was plenty of room for my 15* Hyke and Byke Eolus sleeping bag, my 10 year old Mountainsmith (bad reviews from Luke) 2p tent that has about 7000 miles on it in the past 10 years. The shoulder straps never rubbed against my neck, unless I tightened down the center strap (which does not affect the load positioning on even the $400 packs), but as long as I left in a neutral position (as it should be) it was absolutely fine (the wife used the 40 +5L pack, which has no center strap across chest with no issues as well). It carried the load with no issue and placed the weight over the hips and legs as should. If I wanted to put some weight on the front of my shoulders, I adjusted the front load lifters to lift the load a little (not the load lifters on the shoulder, just the front load lifters) and put it on the front of my shoulders which is where about 20% of the load should be (not on the top and back of shoulders). We stayed above 4000 ft elevation for several miles on several occasions and scrambled across many rocky areas with no issues with the pack or load. We traveled under the rhododendrons with them dropping down and scrapping across the pack with no tears or rips. Naturehike states the 60L is not made for anyone under 5'7" and the 40L is not for anyone over 5'6". I would say that is true and not true, but I would measure to make sure the pack fits the neck to crown of the illiac crest. A friend of mine is 5'5" and the pack fit him well when he tried it for a couple mile (he has a 19" neck to illiac crest), but the 40L the wife was using fit another friend that is 5'11" (he has a shorter 17.5" torso....long as legs lol) with no issue. I'm 6'1" and 210 pounds and the pack worked perfect without a hiccup. I am going to use it again next month on the 40 mile trek across Maryland via the Appalachian Trail and again in December on the 78 mile trek through Georgia on the AT. That will put almost 200 miles on the pack in those three trips, not including the shorter two night trips we are doing on local trails between then (we backpack everyone other weekend). My main pack is the Gregory Katmai 55, but if this pack keeps going strong, it may become my go to until it wears out :). Just wanted to update you like I said i would when we came off the trail. Now, the five hour trip home.
@NoviceWildCamper
@NoviceWildCamper 2 роки тому
That's awesome. Just goes to show you can't trust any negative reviews nowadays. People need to be impartial. Atb and cheers for keeping me updated. I'll be sure to mention it in another vid 👍
@jamicrawford6729
@jamicrawford6729 2 роки тому
@@NoviceWildCamper It's my pleasure and I'll update each time I use this. Like I've said before, ppl mean well and then as they grow so does their ego. I'm sure he is a nice guy (obviously) and truly means well. I do continue to watch his channel and many of the cheaper things he reviews truly aren't any good. But I've got a butt load of equipment after doing this for 42 years and some of it is equipment that is claimed to be crap and it's not. I would say if you're going to steer ppl away from budget gear, be up front about it. I have high end and low end gear and both have their use depending what I am doing with it and the intended use for it is what matters. You can't review a $40 tent backpacking and claim it's not a backpacking tent when even the manufacturer doesn't claim it's a backpacking tent. Use most stuff for it's intended use and it'll usually work out fine. My brother and sister have never bought high end gear in their lives and everything they buy cheap they mod to fit what they want to use it for and it works. Anyway, I'll be out on the long trail again middle of next month and will update. Got a couple short overnighters between then and it will be used then as well :)
@CDPOutdoors
@CDPOutdoors Рік тому
Thank you for the demo's Cool style of review 😁 We are all different and that is what makes us unique All the best Clive 🤠
@NoviceWildCamper
@NoviceWildCamper Рік тому
Cheers Clive. Totally agree. What works for one won't work for another, doesn't make it wrong or bad just not suitable. 👍
@thatunfitbloke
@thatunfitbloke 2 роки тому
Great review Michael, my osprey atmos is just over 3 inch as well!! Loving the bottle moves..don't know how u did that...its impossible 😂😂😂. Those hip pockets are def bigger than the ones I have as well. Absolutely correct about bags not fitting everyone the same, I have the osprey atmos ag50 which is supposed to be better at weight distribution than the rook. Yet I found the osprey rook better. Great honest review as per usual. All the best, paul 👍
@NoviceWildCamper
@NoviceWildCamper 2 роки тому
Cheers Paul. I was going to give an honest long term review anyway but his got my goat a bit so thought nows the time to bring it out and be honest as I can. Atb 👍
@kylew1358
@kylew1358 Рік тому
I have this pack. Used it few times and I am 6ft 2 and its perfect for me. I've carried 15 / 16kg in the pack (above the recommended weight) for a couple miles hike and camp and it was fine. I've added some elastic on the front of the mesh pocket to mimic the more expensive bags for coat etc. Suits my needs fine
@NoviceWildCamper
@NoviceWildCamper Рік тому
Yes I was looking at adding some bungee cord. It's a great pack and I've had zero problems with it. 👍
@AR9ify
@AR9ify Рік тому
Good points and great review 👍
@NoviceWildCamper
@NoviceWildCamper Рік тому
Cheers buddy. Didnt want one person's view to ruin a good bag 👍
@ramblingracheltrailtales
@ramblingracheltrailtales 2 роки тому
I recently tried out the backpack & wanted it to work for me but sadly it didn’t. Probably due to my height 1.61m & not designed for female ‘features’. If they did a short torso version I’d definitely reconsider. It did feel like good quality material & smart design features. Thanks for the review Michael. Always good to hear your views.
@NoviceWildCamper
@NoviceWildCamper 2 роки тому
Thanks Rachel. Exactly. Its never going to fit everyone but that's the same with all backpacks which is why I couldn't understand Lukes comments about it being the worst in the world. Horses for courses I say. Atb 👍
@kimkrimson
@kimkrimson 2 роки тому
Thanks for the review
@NoviceWildCamper
@NoviceWildCamper 2 роки тому
No problem Kim. Thanks for watching. 👍
@BabblingBooby
@BabblingBooby 9 місяців тому
Thank you sir for your thoughts on this backpack. I was reluctant to buy one after watching Luke's review but will give it a go now after watching this video.
@NoviceWildCamper
@NoviceWildCamper 9 місяців тому
He was way off on his review. It was like he was being paid to slate it. Even physical aspects like the neck size, pocket and water bottle holder size. All totally wrong. I've used this solid for nearly 3 years and I cannot find a fault with it. 👍
@guia118
@guia118 2 роки тому
I watched the video mentioned. I thought it very strange. You explained the details and show the reality about the backpack. I bought one recently and i'm waiting it to go to my adventures. Thanks a lot, guy.
@NoviceWildCamper
@NoviceWildCamper 2 роки тому
Cheers buddy. Its a shame he completely slated the bag just because he doesn't like it, doesn't mean it's a bad bag. I hate marzipan, doesn't mean everyone will 😂
@guia118
@guia118 2 роки тому
@@NoviceWildCamper That's true. Thanks for answering. Cheers!
@steveoutdoors6522
@steveoutdoors6522 2 роки тому
Am after light weight back pack have not made up my mind yet thanks for the review
@NoviceWildCamper
@NoviceWildCamper 2 роки тому
No probs Steve. Its a great bag for the price. 👍 atb.
@fuffydingo
@fuffydingo 2 роки тому
Thanks for making this review! I agree with everything you said. This bag needs more positive reviews because it's really a great bag at a great price. People on a budget should seriously look at this bag. I carried 29lbs 75 miles over 4 days and never once was uncomfortable. It fit everything I needed and on the trail I was able to eat and drink without stopping because of the hip and water bottle pockets. Thanks again!
@NoviceWildCamper
@NoviceWildCamper 2 роки тому
Cheers buddy. It had to be said. Cant believe luke gave it such a bad review just cos it didn't fit him. Reckon he's the one with alien proportions 🤣👍
@fuffydingo
@fuffydingo 2 роки тому
@@NoviceWildCamper watching his review, I thought he went into it already knowing he wasn't going to like it before he even tried it. It seems like he made that review without an open mind.
@NoviceWildCamper
@NoviceWildCamper 2 роки тому
I said before it's like he's been paid by a competitor to slate it the way he went about it.
@fuffydingo
@fuffydingo 2 роки тому
@@NoviceWildCamper he claims that's never the case, but watching that review it makes you wonder....
@bandel4
@bandel4 Рік тому
Thank you for making this video. I saw the other 'all negative' video and felt it was just done to get viewership. Guess what? I just ordered my naturehike thanks to you!
@NoviceWildCamper
@NoviceWildCamper Рік тому
That's great. It's an awesome pack and has never let me down. I know it won't be right for everyone like everything else, it's always down to personal preference but to say things like it's the worst pack in the world and you can't even fit keys in the side pockets is ridiculous. Thanks for watching. 👍
@jackpumpkin
@jackpumpkin 2 роки тому
I've been using the same pack for a while. The compression strap that wraps around the bag can be buckled after the rain fly is applied. It will help keep the fly on and the pack sinched down
@NoviceWildCamper
@NoviceWildCamper 2 роки тому
Good idea. I've generally used that strap for holding down the roll top but gives it another option 👍
@Ricky8602
@Ricky8602 2 роки тому
Thank you for good review. Decent reasonable backpack. I recommend this, too.
@NoviceWildCamper
@NoviceWildCamper 2 роки тому
Cheers buddy 👍
@HardyBunster
@HardyBunster 2 роки тому
I find mine really comfortable and it never slips down off the hips like my Vango did. This bag is a good bag. 👍
@NoviceWildCamper
@NoviceWildCamper 2 роки тому
Yep. I don't see what his problem was. A couple of niggles but I lover. No bag is going to be perfect 👍
@bernardt3026
@bernardt3026 2 роки тому
Not in the market for another backpack, but watched this anyway. Seemed a nice balanced review. I do a lot of day hikes with a cheap Indian made canvas bag - a copy of the hiking bag from my scouting days way back in the early 70s. Does me okay, as long as I don't overload it.
@NoviceWildCamper
@NoviceWildCamper 2 роки тому
The way I see it is what suits one person won't suit another. For a tuber to say its the worst pack in the world is a ridiculous statement to make just because he didn't like it. Plus he made so many mistakes about it too. I was due to do a long term review on it but he spurred me to bring it out early. Cheers for watching. 👍
@boomersoutdoors8898
@boomersoutdoors8898 2 роки тому
I have this pack and have hiked over 80 miles with loads from 16 to 26 lbs. This back has performed wonderfully for me. I hike 12 miles one day going up 2880 feet in elevation then down the other side and I was carrying about 26 lbs. of gear. The pack did not hurt my shoulders or back during the entire pack. This is a good pack.
@NoviceWildCamper
@NoviceWildCamper 2 роки тому
Agree, it's a great pack. Shame luke had put so many people off it 👍
@alvarokiyoiti2586
@alvarokiyoiti2586 8 місяців тому
your video is much more elaborate and reasonable, very good
@NoviceWildCamper
@NoviceWildCamper 8 місяців тому
Thanks buddy 👍
@debsmostexcellentadventure5353
@debsmostexcellentadventure5353 2 роки тому
What a lovely review,stay safe debs.
@NoviceWildCamper
@NoviceWildCamper 2 роки тому
Thanks debs 👍
@debsmostexcellentadventure5353
@debsmostexcellentadventure5353 2 роки тому
@@NoviceWildCamper My pleasure,you have a lovely channel .debs
@NoviceWildCamper
@NoviceWildCamper 2 роки тому
Thanks debs that's much appreciated 🙏👍
@outdoors27
@outdoors27 10 місяців тому
Love it mate👊 funny enough I watched is video before watching yours... Totally gutted because I just ordered it before looking it up... He mad me sick to the stomach lol then seeing yours made me feel much better.. I have subscribed 👍 keep the videos coming
@NoviceWildCamper
@NoviceWildCamper 10 місяців тому
Cheers buddy. Yeah I'd had the bag a long time and still have it. Its never missed a beat. Best bag I've had, you'll love it. Cheers for the sub 👌👍
@benhikescamps
@benhikescamps Рік тому
Great thorough review Mike. Thank you. I’m looking at buying the 40+5L version of this pack for some long hiking. I’m shorter at 5’8. But like you mentioned, if it doesn’t fit, I can always sell on eBay. Btw, how waterproof have you found the pack’s material, with/without raincover? Cheers.
@NoviceWildCamper
@NoviceWildCamper Рік тому
Cheers buddy. I must admit I haven't found a truly waterproof pack yet. Even the Qidian pro which ststes its waterproof and you don't need a cover still let water in. Luckily this one comes with the cover and I've used it each time it's rained and it's been fine but for added security I also use a nyloflume liner inside for my down gear and electrics. Can get them on outdoorgearessentials.co.uk website. Really useful. I've done a follow up review since this one comparing to the Qidian pro as that had one makor failure. Atb 👍
@TheAdventureGeek
@TheAdventureGeek 2 роки тому
I did see Luke’s review on this pack and some things I agreed with and others I was scratching my head. I have this pack and as a 5ft 2” lady with an 18” torso it was ok for short hikes but not for multiple day hikes. The quality is excellent and the features are great. I only had two issues:- 1. The sternum strap just didn’t work for me (it was more of an under the boob strap). 2. The torso length is not adjustable (22” - so it just didn’t fit me) Overall I agree that this pack is good value for money. My best mate Rebecca has the same pack and it fits her perfectly! (She’s very tall!) As you rightly said, we are all different sizes and shapes. What works for one person may not work for another. Your pack still looks like new! A good review Michael.
@NoviceWildCamper
@NoviceWildCamper 2 роки тому
Cheers Julia. Exactly my thoughts. It won't fit everyone. Even Osprey do womens and mens, and for a reason but there's no options with naturehike so it won't fit anyone. Cheers for the comment 👍
@DavidBjorgen
@DavidBjorgen 2 роки тому
Thanks for your counterpoint. I own the bag and I agree with you. For the price, it can’t be beat.
@NoviceWildCamper
@NoviceWildCamper 2 роки тому
Cheers David. I had to put it out there as he's so wrong with this one. I'm still loving it a year down the line. Very little to fault his bag. Cheers for watching 👍
@frogmaster83
@frogmaster83 2 роки тому
Good review mate. I like Luke's channel because of the chance to see new kit as it comes out. I too disagree with a lot of his comment though. I had to laugh when he reviewed the Dutch army tent, and complained about it leaking in the rain. He had set it up completely wrong. I commented on this and like you got no reply. Regards JB. 👍
@NoviceWildCamper
@NoviceWildCamper 2 роки тому
Yeah as far as I'm concerned it doesn't matter how big you get, you should always respond. Or if you're so big you don't have time then turn comments off 🤷🏼‍♂️ I think he slates a lot of stuff for the views tbh. If you say its all good it's boring isn't it 👍 atb
@t.vanoosterhout233
@t.vanoosterhout233 2 роки тому
Thx for this review. I did see the "famous youtuber review" and found it not very convincing. But I'm not giving up on Luke, I like his adventures too much for that.
@NoviceWildCamper
@NoviceWildCamper 2 роки тому
Yeah I'll still watch his channel I was just surprised about how much he slated the bag. 🙏👍
@brockdelorenzo7505
@brockdelorenzo7505 2 роки тому
I absolutely love mine. I bought some cheap bungee cord from Amazon and bungee it up the sides and also on the back behind the mesh pocket. It allows so much more freedom. The quality has been amazing. I also have the 3FUL smaller pack, which I love, but I do not compare the two. For the money, I recommend this pack to everyone. I agree with all the drawbacks, but there are things that one can do to alter the pack
@NoviceWildCamper
@NoviceWildCamper 2 роки тому
Good idea there brock. I might look into a bungee system. How did you get it across the back? 👍 atb
@brockdelorenzo7505
@brockdelorenzo7505 2 роки тому
@@NoviceWildCamper there are little loops across the back on the bottom, sides, and top of the back rectangle mesh that you can put it through. It makes a perfect X. I also changed out the rope on the sides and you spongy in crisscross through the loops as well to have more areas to hang stuff and just to latch onto things. I think it was the best addition I had done to this pack. On Ali express I posted pictures of what I did.
@NoviceWildCamper
@NoviceWildCamper 2 роки тому
Cool. Sound good. Will defo try that 👍
@Too-Odd
@Too-Odd 2 роки тому
You make many good points. Just note that Naturehike sells a 40L+5L version that is made for smaller torsos.
@NoviceWildCamper
@NoviceWildCamper 2 роки тому
Yes I think they brought that out later. I didn't realise till after I made this video. Cheers for watching?
@soapmode
@soapmode 2 роки тому
I'm happy with my Naturehike 60l too, though the waterbladder tube holes really do confuse me. Is it possible to get an adapter sheath to put inside the pack, perhaps? I'd certainly like to use a bladder with this. Thanks for the review!
@soapmode
@soapmode 2 роки тому
Ah, apparently the holes are for venting when you roll it closed.
@NoviceWildCamper
@NoviceWildCamper 2 роки тому
Oh. I'm sure it says h20 on it somewhere. I'll have to have a look 😂👍
@ZenHelix
@ZenHelix 2 роки тому
Well said that man! I have the Dyneema version and I don’t have any of the issues mentioned in that other review. I think it’s a great bag.
@NoviceWildCamper
@NoviceWildCamper 2 роки тому
Thanks Colin. I was going to do a long term review anyway but he spurred me on to defend it 👍
@ZenHelix
@ZenHelix 2 роки тому
I think it’s a shame that so many will be put off trying the bag and will end up spending 3 or 4 times as much on something that may well not be as comfy. I tried an Osprey Atmos 65 recently which is allegedly the most comfy pack in the universe but I actually find the Naturehike suits me better and it’s a lot lighter. Horses for courses though.
@NoviceWildCamper
@NoviceWildCamper 2 роки тому
Exactly. It's wrong to give such bad advice and reviews. 👍
@bcamping1
@bcamping1 Рік тому
My pack squeeks like a barn door every step. Have to remove that frame inside.
@NoviceWildCamper
@NoviceWildCamper Рік тому
Odd. Don't get a single noise from mine. How tall are you? Have you tried adjusting the waste band?
@K0ub1
@K0ub1 2 роки тому
Now this review was on point. I'll buy this, based on this review, thank you for that. Apparently some other UKpostsrs didn't know how to use it, when they gave it a terrible review.
@NoviceWildCamper
@NoviceWildCamper 2 роки тому
You're right. I did this because of a review that slated it and was completely incorrect. Great pack I'd recommend to anyone 👍don't forget to subscribe if you haven't 🙏👍
@K0ub1
@K0ub1 2 роки тому
@@NoviceWildCamper will do, thankyou!
@boomersoutdoors8898
@boomersoutdoors8898 9 місяців тому
Great review! I thought that his review was totally unfair to the pack also. I have used this pack for 2 1/2 years and have loved it. I do think that the bottle holder on the shoulder strap needs to be removable, but other than that I really like this pack. I do wish Naturehike would build some ventilation on the back panel.
@NoviceWildCamper
@NoviceWildCamper 9 місяців тому
Cheers buddy. Yeah it does get a bit sweaty although I also have a vango mesh arch pack and I sweat with that too 🤣
@jackpumpkin
@jackpumpkin 2 роки тому
You nailed this review. Subbed
@NoviceWildCamper
@NoviceWildCamper 2 роки тому
Thanks buddy. Much appreciated 🙏 👍
@cubgsan
@cubgsan 10 місяців тому
Good day to you! I am a grandpa rider on HONDA motorcycle from Japan. Enjoying camping ,touring and upload video. Your gear review video is so nice! Awesome! Full supported ! Have a nice day my friend!
@NoviceWildCamper
@NoviceWildCamper 10 місяців тому
That's great. Thank you so much 👍
@chrisarnold4709
@chrisarnold4709 2 роки тому
Good review and comments exactly right - what one person likes another won't....I've just bought a Lowe Alpine 65 on a recommendation but its not for me so it's going back. Doesn't mean Lowe Alpine are crap. If we all thought the same and did the same life would have no variety! Some people buy a brand just to be seen to have it or rubbish a cheaper brand because it doesn't fit their image - all the gear, no idea.
@NoviceWildCamper
@NoviceWildCamper 2 роки тому
Exactly my thoughts. There would be only one car, tent, food type etc. If there was no variety in what people liked. Ridiculous statement. Take a look at my Regatta vid in rain and high winds. Stood up to winds that most people would only take a hilleberg in but it worked and only £75, a tenth of a hilleberg. And let's face it, not many people get to take a hilleberg to its limits anyway so they're a bit overkill for most of the camping in this country. Atb 👍
@chrisarnold4709
@chrisarnold4709 2 роки тому
And that's why I bought the Regatta as well.....and it's great for £70! Why buy a £600 tent when you don't need to!
@NoviceWildCamper
@NoviceWildCamper 2 роки тому
👍
@edd8268
@edd8268 2 роки тому
Thanks for the great video and review. Good timing as I've been looking at these along with the 3f UL ones. It just goes to show how different the other bloke sees things. Liked + Sub'd 👍
@NoviceWildCamper
@NoviceWildCamper 2 роки тому
Ah thanks Ed. I was looking at the 3F one but preferred the look of this one. Loved it so far. Thanks for the sub buddy 🙏👍
@willisblevins3759
@willisblevins3759 2 роки тому
Good show thanks
@NoviceWildCamper
@NoviceWildCamper 2 роки тому
Cheers Willis 👍
@ilias4156
@ilias4156 2 роки тому
nice video. thank you very much!
@NoviceWildCamper
@NoviceWildCamper 2 роки тому
Cheers buddy. 👍
@cliffspicer6555
@cliffspicer6555 Рік тому
I liked your review and my only concern is it is not very adjustable. I am 5'8" and 160lbs and I can't imagine it will fit you at 6'4" the same as me at 5'8" with no adjustments. I like the hip belt to be around my hips of course so most packs you can adjust the shoulder straps up or down once you get the hip belt on so you carry the weight on your hips and not on your shoulders for the majority of the weight. All else seems perfect for me but I would like your comment regarding the One Size Fit's All approach on this pack?
@NoviceWildCamper
@NoviceWildCamper Рік тому
Well I can't vouch for every size but I've seen some comments saying they've got it and it fits fine and theyre a lot smaller than me. There is some minor adjustment at the hip belt which may help. 👍
@everyoneknowsadave3580
@everyoneknowsadave3580 2 роки тому
Right there with you bruvver … it’s a great little pack for the price …. You covered everything …. Luke from the OGR probably overloaded it by packing out his Axe, big ass Rambo knife and his 38 handgun into the woods so sure it was uncomfortable … anything above 30lb and you definitely feel it on your shoulders… but then it’s not for that… it’s for overnighters or short multi day trips with lightweight gear and for that it’s perfect …. Great review ATB Dave Mc
@NoviceWildCamper
@NoviceWildCamper 2 роки тому
Cheers dave. I don't know why he has such a downer on it. Maybe he's under five foot tall 😂👍
@theinvisibleadventurer538
@theinvisibleadventurer538 2 роки тому
I watched your video and I also watched his, and your video so your video was a more fair review than what he's was, thank you for a great video.
@NoviceWildCamper
@NoviceWildCamper 2 роки тому
Thanks buddy. He just seemed so biased against it. No one can ever say something is the worst in the world as its horses for courses. Just because it doesn't suit.him or he can't work it out properly that's not the fault of the bag. Cheers for watching and commenting 👍
@Earthpet711
@Earthpet711 Рік тому
Thanks.
@infoOutdoorEmore
@infoOutdoorEmore Рік тому
Complimenti! Recensione impeccabile! Meriteresti molti più iscritti di Luke! Saluti dall'Italia 👍👍👍
@NoviceWildCamper
@NoviceWildCamper Рік тому
grazie Giuseppe. è un peccato che abbia così tanto potere di rovinare un buon prodotto. tutto il meglio dall'inghilterra
@jamicrawford6729
@jamicrawford6729 2 роки тому
Another 75 miles since Thursday on this pack. This pack totes 22 pounds easily every trip I've used it on far. This pack now has over 200 miles on my back. Before January 1, 2022, it will have 500 total miles. I'm going to keep the pack. Saw another video where Luke is now downing the Granite Gear pack, which I have as well (my son uses it and has over a 2000 miles on it). Perhaps if Luke tried gear that was proper to his small body size they may work better for him. Hard to test things that are too big for you and give it a bad review LOL. Anyway, I'm enjoying this pack and as I said, it totes well and when fitted for the proper body size it fits as should. Keep on keeping on, brother! Enjoy your videos, my friend!
@NoviceWildCamper
@NoviceWildCamper 2 роки тому
Thanks Jami. It's a shame he'll never hear about it, or at least will never listen if he does. I saw that review pop up but ignored watching it as I knew he'd slate it just cos it doesn't fit him. Sad really.
@jamicrawford6729
@jamicrawford6729 2 роки тому
@@NoviceWildCamper He's read or ignored the NH 60L because I made sure I posted on the video that starts, "your 100% wrong about this pack". Haha. Someone has already called him out on the GGCV2 and asked why he posted a great review of the pack a few months ago. Maybe he just forgot he already reviewed it. Someone linked the previous great review on the thread LOL. My sister and brother and I were backpack thru North Carolina a couple years ago. He's a big a ass and know it all in person as well. His following is a cult who clings to every word as gospel fact when many of the things he tries out he hooks up wrong, either is too big or not made for his small body frame and weak size. The first two comments on the GGCV2 disagreed with him and someone commented, "Luke says differently". Just wow, bro. That's all I could muster to myself on that stupid comment
@NoviceWildCamper
@NoviceWildCamper 2 роки тому
He actually responded to a comment I made on his Vik 1 straight after he posted it so probably the only reason why he responded. He slated that too and I called him out and all he could do was say "you're a novice for a reason my friend" guys an idiot.
@jamicrawford6729
@jamicrawford6729 2 роки тому
@@NoviceWildCamper Yea, I've met probably 25 youtubers in person out in the backcountry or some equipment shows across the country. Out of all the ones I've met, Luke and one other have been complete assh***s and their arrogant personalities have shown. If dude could actually figure out how to use the cross bar on a tent and understand it goes over the top and not under, he would stop showing his novice ability at trying to be a pro! I've been doing this crap since I was 10. I've been lost in woods and used my survival skills after making a wrong turn. It sucked for two days, but I made it out. I know I'm not a novice and I don't test stuff by sitting on the side of my property while I sleep in the house, only Luke and Bear G does that type stuff. I test my stuff in the real world and if I get wet, I know how to survive that as well
@jamicrawford6729
@jamicrawford6729 2 роки тому
The pack came in Monday afternoon. Packed it last night after work. Took it out at day break this A.M. for a 6 mile out 6 mile in hike at out local wildlife management area. No issues with load lifters coming loose. No issue with hip belt or shoulder strap coming loose. I was full loaded with my 5 day loadout of 23 pounds and did not feel it pulling on my shoulders. Did not hurt my hips. Definitely no rubbing on the neck from the shoulder straps, but maybe because I am 6'1" and 218 pounds with broad shoulders and the pack can't rub my neck. My bud that was with me hiked with it a mile and had no issues with rubbing, pulling load dropping, or anything, but he is also 6' and 230 pounds. Oh well, I'll know more when I take it out Friday thru Monday on the AT in southern Virginia.
@NoviceWildCamper
@NoviceWildCamper 2 роки тому
Thanks for that Jami. Just goes to show you can't trust everyone's review no matter how big their channel eh? Glad you're liking it so far. Atb 👍
@jamicrawford6729
@jamicrawford6729 2 роки тому
@@NoviceWildCamper I'll post a good review here next week. We're leaving Thursday when I get off and heading to southern Virginia to do some AT miles. We were going to do 51 miles, but we've changed it going to do 74 miles from Friday to Monday. I think with the terrain in southern Virginia, it will be the perfect place to try this pack. There are several straight up climbs with no switch backs to relieve shoulder or leg stress from the pack pressing in the hips, and plenty of rock crossing that will require mobility and use of arms to involve the shoulders. I have an 18" neck and broad chest from working out, and I never felt a rub today at all. I was thankful it came in a couple days early as I thought I didn't hit the first delivery date option in time. More to come later next week, brother
@bewleybrothers
@bewleybrothers 2 роки тому
Magic Mike! Great review buddy with some good points raised, looks like a pretty decent bag in all fairness. Shots were fired and i'm hoping he shoots back! 😂 Atb Daz & Andy 😁👍🏻🏕
@NoviceWildCamper
@NoviceWildCamper 2 роки тому
Doubt he'll ever hear about my vid let alone watch it Daz 🤣 I just hope it helps others that watch his negative unjust comments. 👍
@NoviceWildCamper
@NoviceWildCamper 2 роки тому
And I think that's a different kind of magic 🤣
@TheMarcopix
@TheMarcopix 2 роки тому
Nice constructive counterpoint to Luke's review...which I just saw. I thought it was odd the things he mentioned and how Naturehike could miss so badly on what is a pretty mature design so....glad I found your review. He, and pretty much every other reviewer out there harp on how sweaty their backs get. I've been hiking since the early 80s and never knew a sweaty back was a 'thing'. I figured since every other part of me was profusely sweating that my back would too and so, I have always had a sweaty back. I would actually prefer to have the pack snug against my back so it moves with me than have it separated in order to provide some small ventilation which, in the end does little. I don't have this bag but got a Granite Gear bag which appears to be very, very similar and I like it. Cheers and keep your back dry
@NoviceWildCamper
@NoviceWildCamper 2 роки тому
Cheers buddy. I have another pack with mesh panel and a massive gap between it and the pack for ventilation. Still get a sweaty back 🤣 Luke was way too harsh. To say you can't even fit keys in the hip pocket is just ridiculous. I've got a leather man, lighter, pack of tissues, spare bungee cords and clips, loads of stuff. I reckon someone paid him to slate it. Very unfair.
@TheMarcopix
@TheMarcopix 2 роки тому
@@NoviceWildCamper Agreed. It seemed a bit harsh given they have a lot of gear out there
@thomascleveland
@thomascleveland 8 місяців тому
Could you pull the waist strap out entirely? I am looking for a second backpack that I might occaisionaly lend to my skinny little boy scout nephew. Last time I lent him a pack he couldn't get the waist band tight enough, which led me to wonder if there is a decent ultralight pack that I could potentially swap in custom made belt for skeleton boy.
@NoviceWildCamper
@NoviceWildCamper 8 місяців тому
That made me giggle. Wish I had the same problem 🤣 yes you can remove the waist strap completely if need be. It is only held in place by a velcro pad for adjusting up and down slightly or just pull it straight out. 👍
@soomay9855
@soomay9855 2 роки тому
🤣🤣 out of sheer mischief I watched the ‘other’ review - I was giggling furiously hearing your comments in my head & your Paul Daniel’s magic tricks!! I think he must have got out of bed the wrong side when he reviewed the pack. Or maybe very hung over hence the shades? Either way I suspect that they had something to do with the blocking. PS. The harness straps on my rucksack sack are also 3”
@NoviceWildCamper
@NoviceWildCamper 2 роки тому
Yeah I keep thinking he was paid to slate it or something. Not sure why he made such ridiculous comments. How can you not fit keys in the hip pockets for example? How big are his keys!!!??? I could have got two protein bars in with the mobile phone I put in. Madness. Glad it made you laugh though 😂👍
@soomay9855
@soomay9855 2 роки тому
@@NoviceWildCamper The keys are probably the size of their cars & egos....🤭. The coffee you like is on offer at Sainsbury’s!
@NoviceWildCamper
@NoviceWildCamper 2 роки тому
Ooh I'll check it out. Tesco normally do a deal on them but they're back up to full price now. 👍
@soomay9855
@soomay9855 2 роки тому
@@NoviceWildCamper 😘😘
@NoviceWildCamper
@NoviceWildCamper 2 роки тому
🤔
@MegaMastiffman
@MegaMastiffman 2 роки тому
Mine has served me very well I have nothing bad to say about it at all I even like the pocket on the the shoulder strap holds a small water bottle which is what I like there and I refill with the two other water bottles it’s a very affordable first time pack for anyone who’s not sure what they want yet.
@NoviceWildCamper
@NoviceWildCamper 2 роки тому
Totally agree. It's a shame he slated it so much as he has a lot of influence. Cheers for watching. 👍
@Too-Odd
@Too-Odd 2 роки тому
Luke says, "This is the worst backpack I ever tested." What he meant was, "This backpack doesn't fit my small torso, so it must be the worst backpack for everyone."
@NoviceWildCamper
@NoviceWildCamper 2 роки тому
Exactly. No backpack is ever going to be perfect for everyone. Its just sad that he has the influence to stop so many people buying what could be a perfectly good backpack. 🤷🏼‍♂️
@BackpackerScience
@BackpackerScience 2 роки тому
You actually have a video 👍👌
@andrelambert_
@andrelambert_ Рік тому
Between this one and the 3F UL Qidian Pro, which one do you prefer?
@NoviceWildCamper
@NoviceWildCamper Рік тому
Tough one. Both has their own merits. I will be doing a long term review of both soon though. I prefer the qidian but its showing some wear. Keep an eye out for the review video 👍
@_L_L_I_R_
@_L_L_I_R_ 26 днів тому
I have never seen a video on UKposts with more than 100 comments, so that each comment contains a response from the author of the video. And here are 313 such comments. You are uniquely polite and attentive to the audience. Good luck!
@NoviceWildCamper
@NoviceWildCamper 26 днів тому
Thanks buddy. I do miss some sometimes as often the comments doesn't show specially if its in a long group of comments but I always try and reply to everyone. Yours didn't pop up but I check my outstanding comment section regularly and saw this. Luckily I'm not so popular I can't keep up with them 🤣
@shalomkravmaga
@shalomkravmaga 2 роки тому
I agree with every sound point you made in this video. I find Luke to be overly negative about almost everything he reviews.
@NoviceWildCamper
@NoviceWildCamper 2 роки тому
Yeah he seems to go one way or the total opposite. No middle ground. It's either the best tent in the world or the absolute worst. Sad he has that much influence. I had the bag out last night night still loving it. 👍
@Carolgrinnn
@Carolgrinnn Рік тому
Hii, i would like to know if the Shoulder Straps are confortable and soft? Thanks
@NoviceWildCamper
@NoviceWildCamper Рік тому
Hi. Yes very. I've had no problems with then at all. 👍
@Carolgrinnn
@Carolgrinnn Рік тому
@@NoviceWildCamper that's great 😃 Thank you 🙏🏻
@Carolgrinnn
@Carolgrinnn Рік тому
@@NoviceWildCamper I wanna buy for me the Naturehike Rock 40+5 it's will fits better in me 😃
@bidufree
@bidufree Рік тому
Glad you mention your hight. I'm 6'4 too. I think the famous negative review is due to the reviewer's hight. He is much shorter.
@NoviceWildCamper
@NoviceWildCamper Рік тому
True he is short but that doesn't stop him fitting his keys in the side pockets or a bottle in the drink holder. 🤔😂
@aventuriercatholique777
@aventuriercatholique777 Рік тому
I have the 40l model. It is perfect for my practice of ultra-light long-distance semi-autonomous walking (night in a tent in negative temperatures at the end of autumn). I modified the bag a little, in the same way that I personalize all of my equipment. It now weighs 800g empty. In support, I have a total weight of 4.7 kg which rests mainly on the hips. Plus 1.5 kg of water, alcohol for the stove and food. This bag at 60€ delivered is no less comfortable and practical than a light walking bag at 200€. J'ai le modèle 40l. Il convient parfaitement à ma pratique de marche ultra légère longue distance en semi autonomie (nuit sous la tente par températures négatives de fin d'automne). J'ai un peu modifié le sac, de la même façon que je personnalise l'ensemble de mon matériel. Il pèse maintenant à vide 800g. En charge, j'ai un poids total de 4,7kg qui repose essentiellement sur les hanches. Plus 1,5 kg d'eau, alcool pour le réchaud et nourriture. Ce sac à 60€ livré n'est pas moins confortable et pratique qu'un sac de marche légère à 200€.
@NoviceWildCamper
@NoviceWildCamper Рік тому
Sounds great. What modifications did you do?
@aventuriercatholique777
@aventuriercatholique777 Рік тому
@@NoviceWildCamper My wife is a very good seamstress and we have a professional sewing machine. From this base, I modified the back foam by removing a large central strip. I recognize that this modification is not accessible to everyone. The goal was mainly to gain weight, but I also gain significantly in ventilation. The maintenance of the bag is done thanks to the self-inflating mattress roll inside. I don't use the rain cover. I walk with a very light umbrella which replaces both the cape and the rain cover. And I cut all the straps that stick out.
@NoviceWildCamper
@NoviceWildCamper Рік тому
Sound like some good mods 👍
@Jane-id9eo
@Jane-id9eo 7 місяців тому
I'll be going for a mountain trekking for the first time on October for 3 days, and I'm a woman whose 149cm tall...I don't know which Bag do I buy... I've read good and bad comments here... Any recommendations for a short girl?😢 HELP
@NoviceWildCamper
@NoviceWildCamper 7 місяців тому
They do different sizes of this bag now but thus still may be too big for you. If you measure your torso length and check on the naturehike website it will show if its suitable. If not I'd recommend going into a proper hiking shop and getting measured for a bag and testing it out in the shop. Good luck 👍
@sebakrol3433
@sebakrol3433 Рік тому
I'm interested of buying one but not sure dyneema or nylon version. Which one would you recommend?
@NoviceWildCamper
@NoviceWildCamper Рік тому
I'd go nylon. The dyneema version is heavier for some reason and more expensive 👍
@sebakrol3433
@sebakrol3433 Рік тому
What about durability? Any experience?
@NoviceWildCamper
@NoviceWildCamper Рік тому
I've used mine for a year camping generally once a week or two max and I don't treat it with care. So far absolutely no signs of wear or damage.
@sebakrol3433
@sebakrol3433 Рік тому
Thanks
@tdiler12
@tdiler12 2 роки тому
Fantastic counter arguments to the “worst bag in the world” For around $70 I challenge anyone to find a better made and comfortable bag at that weight/price.
@NoviceWildCamper
@NoviceWildCamper 2 роки тому
Exactly. Don't know why he has such a downer on it. I also noticed he never responds to any comments either. Cheers for watching 👍
@estebanferrari9833
@estebanferrari9833 2 роки тому
Yes! I completely agree! Not perfect, but a great backpack for the price range!
@NoviceWildCamper
@NoviceWildCamper 2 роки тому
Thanks Esteban. And yes I don't think any bag is perfect for anyone let alone everyone but it's certainly not the worst bag in the world. Makes you wonder why he'd put out such a video. Thanks for watching and please subscribe if you haven't already as I will be doing more reviews soon. 🙏👍
@ludgeisatmcdonalds
@ludgeisatmcdonalds 2 роки тому
3F UL is regularly less than $60 and is raved about
@NoviceWildCamper
@NoviceWildCamper 2 роки тому
Exactly. Cant beat it for the price 👍
@jamicrawford6729
@jamicrawford6729 2 роки тому
I have a Lowe Alpine, Gregory, Osprey (like the one Luke wears), and several off brands. I use them all for different types of hikes or backpacking trips. Most of the shoulder straps (even on the Osprey like Luke's) is barely over 3 inches. I also have several tents he has reviewed and says they were crap and I've used them for between 10-20 years with no issues. Funny how a majority of ppl can have the same things he is reviewing for so long and never have issues with them. He's a good guy, but sometimes, ppl become arrogant in what they're doing, unfortunately.
@NoviceWildCamper
@NoviceWildCamper 2 роки тому
Totally agree and the sad thing is I see so many comments on his videos thanking him for the review and saying they'll make sure they or anyone they know never buys the product he's reviewed. He's too biased and definitely big headed. If he doesn't like something (or maybe had to pay for it) then he slates it rather than saying its just not for him. Sad. Cheers for the comment buddy atb 👍
@jamicrawford6729
@jamicrawford6729 2 роки тому
@@NoviceWildCamper anytime, brother! I don’t like bashing folks, but sometimes it can be warranted. I’m not a UKpostsr, but I’m 53 and I’ve been backpacking for 42 years now. I’ve thru hiked several big trails and smaller trails such as the JMT and BMT and Colorado Trail, that’s why I have so many packs and equipment. Because of the two of you, I have now ordered this pack in the 40+5 to try it out. It’ll be in Wednesday and will be tried out on the AT the weekend
@NoviceWildCamper
@NoviceWildCamper 2 роки тому
Same age here. Not been camping and hiking as long as you but its in my blood 😂 atb 👍
@PIPSGuy
@PIPSGuy Рік тому
May i know what material for this bag? as i saw at same place it claim dyneema
@NoviceWildCamper
@NoviceWildCamper Рік тому
It's certainly not dyneema. They do make it in a couple of different materials but I cannot find it anywhere. But mine is the 420d nylon standard one which is lighter than the other option theu do anyway. 👍
@PIPSGuy
@PIPSGuy Рік тому
@@NoviceWildCamper noted w thks on clarification
@PIPSGuy
@PIPSGuy Рік тому
@@NoviceWildCamper i have bought a small pouch from naturehike & very happy with their quality
@footprintsoffarabi
@footprintsoffarabi Рік тому
Should I buy this for EBC trek?
@NoviceWildCamper
@NoviceWildCamper Рік тому
To be honest im not sure what it involves. Its a great pack but I'm no expert on EBC.
@Bhikes15
@Bhikes15 Рік тому
thanks for the, I can now checkout mine 😉..but someone says that its good for the ladies?
@NoviceWildCamper
@NoviceWildCamper Рік тому
I've seen many women using it as well as men so should be good. 👍
@Bhikes15
@Bhikes15 Рік тому
@@NoviceWildCamper thanks again
@fishy7026
@fishy7026 4 місяці тому
Hi mate, would you still recommend in 2023 or are there any new and improved for around the same price point
@NoviceWildCamper
@NoviceWildCamper 4 місяці тому
Hi. I'd still like recommend it if you want a framed pack. It has never let me down. However I also reviewed the 3ful qidian pro against this on a later video as that is frameless and lighter but it failed due to tearing at the hip belts which is a shame as I really liked that bag. 3ful have sent me a new upgraded version to test out and I've been using it most of this year and so far it has been faultless so if you want lighter you could look at this new one. 👍
@fishy7026
@fishy7026 4 місяці тому
@@NoviceWildCamper Is this upgraded version on sale i was impressed with it on your review
@NoviceWildCamper
@NoviceWildCamper 4 місяці тому
Yes. Its available from the 3FUL website 👍
@fishy7026
@fishy7026 4 місяці тому
@@NoviceWildCamper is the upgrade just better reinforced hip belt seems?
@NoviceWildCamper
@NoviceWildCamper 4 місяці тому
@fishy7026 there were a few upgrades but I can't find the messages from them. I've been using it for most of this year and so far it's been spot on. They claim its waterproof, as do many, but it's not fully waterproof like every other bag that says it is and then provides a cover for it so I'd recommend a nyloflume pack liner which is what is use and then don't have to worry about anything getting wet. 👍
@ajw9975
@ajw9975 2 роки тому
Is there any advantage in going for the dyneema version vs the regular nylon? Naturehike lists the dyneema version (1.31 kg) as heavier than the regular nylon (1.16 kg). Thanks.
@NoviceWildCamper
@NoviceWildCamper 2 роки тому
That one wasn't available when I got mine and personally i wouldn't have got it due to the extra weight. Dyneema should be lighter if anything so it is odd that it is heavier. In theory it dhojld at least be more hard wearing but I have had zero issues with wear on this pack. 👍
@ajw9975
@ajw9975 2 роки тому
@@NoviceWildCamper My thoughts exactly. I'm thinking of opting for the nylon version myself. I think they "upgraded" the series; although I don't exactly know what "upgraded" actually refers to. Thanks!
@ajw9975
@ajw9975 Рік тому
@@NoviceWildCamper Just back from my first test of this pack. What a great value. It works well for my torso length and height (6'0""). It does have quirks. I can see how the front left "bottle holder" can interfere with women and is a design flaw for that demographic unfortunately. It works well to hold my can of bear spray. It does have quirks. But I love it overall. Very light and comfortable when adjusted correctly.
@NoviceWildCamper
@NoviceWildCamper Рік тому
Yeah I've has zero issues with it so far. Admittedly been using the qidian Pro recently however that is already showing wear and tear yet the naturehike looks like new 👍
@ruairidhalexander7631
@ruairidhalexander7631 2 роки тому
Good review thanks. And good job debunking the American geezer's review.
@NoviceWildCamper
@NoviceWildCamper 2 роки тому
Cheers buddy. Its a shame he has so much power to ruin a good product. 🤷🏼‍♂️
@JustBlondie
@JustBlondie 9 місяців тому
I tried this, and I found it uncomfortable compared to my other backpacks. Packed it nearly with the total weight being 10kg and it just wasn’t right compared to my other backpacks. Felt heavier carrying it and it rubbed on my neck/shoulder area. Gutted because it looked really nice :/
@NoviceWildCamper
@NoviceWildCamper 9 місяців тому
It may be your size? Not sure how tall you are but as they only do one size I've heard a couple of people say it doesn't suit short torsos. I mist admit, after using it for nearly 3 years now, it's been excellent and never let me down 👍
@JustBlondie
@JustBlondie 9 місяців тому
@@NoviceWildCamper I thought I’d get away with it being 5ft 10”, I have a longish torso. I guess I’m just one of the people it didn’t fit which is a shame.
@NoviceWildCamper
@NoviceWildCamper 9 місяців тому
That is a shame. Certainly not short for sure.
@Direct19681
@Direct19681 9 місяців тому
No big deal if you lose the pack cover.. they’re useless anyway. The part of the pack that will take on the most water is the part resting against your back and the only part of the pack not covered.
@NoviceWildCamper
@NoviceWildCamper 9 місяців тому
To be honest I just use a nyloflume loner now but the pack cover did help in the pouring rain on several occasions.
@Direct19681
@Direct19681 9 місяців тому
@@NoviceWildCamper yeah that’s all I use in my pack.. the cover will give some protection, and depending on the pack also. But it definitely doesn’t hurt to have the redundancies in place.
@MikeDuguid
@MikeDuguid Місяць тому
I bought one of these trying to get a lighter pack over my existing 60L. Straight away, it seems a lot smaller in comparison. I double checked I'd not been accidentally sent the 40L version - it is embroidered with 60 'liter' and weighed at 1.25kg is roughly as expected for the "60L". It was ordered direct from naturehike's store. On measuring it though my suspicions are confirmed: 27cm wide (i.e. top edge of back padding), 18cm deep (across side, padding to rear netting), 85cm tall (bottom of rear padding to extended roll top with one turn to close). Multiplied out this comes to 41L. Can anybody else with this pack do some measurements, have I been sent a dud (though weight and embroidery are telling)?
@MikeDuguid
@MikeDuguid Місяць тому
I went and had a look back at their website - their own spec for 60L mentions 67x26x18, which multiplies out to 31L..!. Even with the netting and side pockets, this would seem to be in no way a true 60L pack. A quick look at some other manufacturers, Osprey and Deuter, their specs for width, height, depth calculate out as expected, and not undersized.
@NoviceWildCamper
@NoviceWildCamper Місяць тому
It would include front expansion net and side pockets for the litres as well.
@MikeDuguid
@MikeDuguid Місяць тому
I had a look at both osprey and deuter packs of around 60L with both expansion nets and side pockets (and my own existing lightwave 60L pack which is obviously larger) the dimensions of those are much bigger and calculate out to the stated capacity, without including any expansion. I think naturehike are being extremely disingenuous selling this as 60L. It's very similar in size to my 40L UD fastpack, and is a noticeably smaller than a lowe alpine 40L I have
@NoviceWildCamper
@NoviceWildCamper Місяць тому
Weird. I just admit I never even questioned it but know that it fits all my gear in and has been spot on for years now.
@MikeDuguid
@MikeDuguid Місяць тому
@@NoviceWildCamper I think I'll probably still keep it as other than it being smaller than expected, on first impressions I like everything else about it, most of the time it'll be ok, just not going to be quite big enough for some winter and multi-day trips with a lot of bulky kit
@tanvirrahman2997
@tanvirrahman2997 2 роки тому
Dear Novice Wild Camper, I watched your review video about Long Term Naturehike 60l backpack review on UKposts, and you really have done a great job on this. I love your video style very much. We are setting up a new business on[ camping chair] and hope to extend our business. So can you test the product for us? We will appreciate it and we can pay for your effort. Best Regards
@NoviceWildCamper
@NoviceWildCamper 2 роки тому
Hi yes contact me on Facebook novice wildcamper and we can chat there. Thanks.
@tanvirrahman2997
@tanvirrahman2997 2 роки тому
@@NoviceWildCamper ok. check your inbox i sent you text
@nicwp7320
@nicwp7320 2 роки тому
Luke from the OTHER channel can be very negative if he doesn't like something, he did the same with my tent all because he didn't know how to put the poles in correctly and ignored comments
@NoviceWildCamper
@NoviceWildCamper 2 роки тому
It seems to be a common trait with him. His channel is so big that I think he doesn't need to respond to his viewers. Not a good way to run a channel in my mind 👍
@danny.k.87
@danny.k.87 2 роки тому
Can’t be that popular this other geezer when I’m watching Mike novice wild camper every week and not a clue who other person is 🤣
@NoviceWildCamper
@NoviceWildCamper 2 роки тому
🤣 cheers dan. Don't think I'll ever get to his status though. Atb 🤣
@danny.k.87
@danny.k.87 2 роки тому
Can only try. Always great stuff il still be watching 👍
@NoviceWildCamper
@NoviceWildCamper 2 роки тому
Cheers dan 👍
@ouradventure4199
@ouradventure4199 2 роки тому
I’m glad I watched his cry baby review glad I found u I thought I was the only one that thought his review was bs
@NoviceWildCamper
@NoviceWildCamper 2 роки тому
Thanks buddy. I've had so many people say he is full of it and cos he such a short a$$ he hates certain things. Shame as he's so influential 👍
@SimenRingstad
@SimenRingstad Місяць тому
The load lifters looks to be placed wrong on this pack. They should be above your shoulders. Maybe not a big deal if your pack is light enough.
@NoviceWildCamper
@NoviceWildCamper Місяць тому
Not had a problem with them. I've had this up to around 15kg load and it's been fine 👍
@lisasdayoff503
@lisasdayoff503 2 роки тому
He can be a bit judgemental and picky. I love my river country tent he hated. I'm gonna love this pack too when it comes in.
@NoviceWildCamper
@NoviceWildCamper 2 роки тому
So many people have said the same. Shame he can't be unbiased as he's got such a following it ruins a good bag for a lot of people 👍
@NoviceWildCamper
@NoviceWildCamper 2 роки тому
For some reason your second comment got removed just to let you know I'm not ignoring whatever it was 😂👍
@NoviceWildCamper
@NoviceWildCamper 2 роки тому
It's gone again. Are you putting a link? Sometimes kicks it off. Message me direct on Facebook if you need 👍
@JUDD3R2
@JUDD3R2 2 роки тому
Anyone interested in buying one I have owned this since launch used 3 times and it will not be being used again by me genuine pain in back and collarbones after use. On paper it's fantastic, quality also fantastic you just need to be specially bred to fit the straps really. It's either gonna fit and work or it's not gonna fit and is actually painful to use.
@NoviceWildCamper
@NoviceWildCamper 2 роки тому
Shame. As I said, hordes for courses, it's not for everyone
@JUDD3R2
@JUDD3R2 2 роки тому
@@NoviceWildCamper It is I'm not ashamed to say I used the highly popular Creeper from Aliexpress prior to this. I have had my eye on this bag since the first video of the American lady complaining of back pain and ordered it straight away hoping to love it. I'm 6.1 165 pounds 40ch 32w with a 21 inch back. I too watched Luke's review and took it up Snowdon last Tuesday in an act of defiance and unfortunately for me I am still feeling the pain today. Really wanted it to be great, with a bit of hunting can pick up an exos 48 new under £160. I too am tight due to being a carer nowadays but after my experiences I'm going to treat my packs like footwear and try not to make any compromises without needing a loan. All the best and happy it works for you brother 👍
@NoviceWildCamper
@NoviceWildCamper 2 роки тому
🤣 hope it works well for you. It won't suit everyone but some of his negatives just didn't make sense. Says he can't fit his keys in the hip pockets!!! Madness. Atb 👍
@jamicrawford6729
@jamicrawford6729 2 роки тому
Put another 78 miles on the pack the past four days. I still disagree 100% with Luke! This pack is really good. Will be putting another 39 miles on it in 2 weeks. By January 1, 2022 this pack will have almost 500 miles on it by then. I am going to be using this pack until it gets 1000 miles on it attempting to check the wear and tear on it in that many miles. This far, for a $100 bag, I think it's pretty good, but I'll know soon enough how it handles with time and miles on it. I plan on this being the only pack I use for the next year.
@NoviceWildCamper
@NoviceWildCamper 2 роки тому
It's a shame he'll never know how good it is as he wouldn't listen to anyone else. So many people commented on his video saying it was a great bag but he just ignored them and let's the money roll in. Sad.
@jamicrawford6729
@jamicrawford6729 2 роки тому
@@NoviceWildCamper Yea, but now that a subscriber sent in a $750 tent, it's the best backpacking tent ever used. I find that funny, because it weighs 6 pound and some odd ounces. He talked trashed about a backpacking tent weighing 5 pounds two weeks prior. The problem I have with that, is the tent he talked trash about actually only weighs 4 pounds 5 ounces and is a tent I've been using 14 years that's been tested in the wilderness for that many years. I only use it now on 2 night trips because I now have the Big Agnes that I got on sale,
@NoviceWildCamper
@NoviceWildCamper 2 роки тому
I know. Its sad isn't it.
@ronactive
@ronactive 2 роки тому
Schöner Rucksack. Grüße ronactive
@NoviceWildCamper
@NoviceWildCamper 2 роки тому
Thanks Ron 👍
@LowPlainsDrifter60
@LowPlainsDrifter60 Рік тому
Luke (outdoorgearreview) is a small guy (5'5") & of course not all rucksacks, especially ' one size fits all' models, which have to be based on average heights & builds, may not fit him & people of his size. This particular bag seems to have more positive views than negative, so it probably isn't as bad as Luke made out, it just wasn't a ruck for him.
@NoviceWildCamper
@NoviceWildCamper Рік тому
Exactly sl for him to say its basically the worst pack in the world is a ridiculous comment from someone so allegedly experienced. Very poor review from him. It won't fit everyone for sure but what about all the other comments like can't fit a water bottle in it, pockets won't even fit keys in it. He was wrong on so many levels on this one it felt like he was being paid to slate it.
@LowPlainsDrifter60
@LowPlainsDrifter60 Рік тому
@@NoviceWildCamper Yeah. I think he didn't really like the pack from the outset a so tried to find faults. I have some doubts about his reviews, particularly rucksacks, as he has dozens of rucksacks & can't possibly have used them all enough to gather sufficient experience to form an objective opinion unless he was on the trail 24/7. Walking a few hundred yards up on his 'mountain' isn't really a serious method of testing a rucksack. Though I wouldn't buy (or not buy ) anything on his recommendation, he does bring to our attention gear that we wouldn't usually know about.
@everyoneknowsadave3580
@everyoneknowsadave3580 2 роки тому
Do you think The lone wolf was the lone thumbs down ?? 👎😂😂 … Strength and honor (w no U) my friend 😄😄
@NoviceWildCamper
@NoviceWildCamper 2 роки тому
No. I know who they are. They do it on every vid 😂 I find it hilarious.
@NoviceWildCamper
@NoviceWildCamper 2 роки тому
And I doubt he'd ever watch my little channel 😂
@HuggyBearHikes
@HuggyBearHikes 2 роки тому
I own this pack. And have had zero problems with it. I've seen the famous you tuber review of this Pack and knew he was full of it. I don't even bother watching his reviews anymore as he seems more and more like a armchair quarterback
@NoviceWildCamper
@NoviceWildCamper 2 роки тому
Thanks Huggy. Yeah I've unsubbed him. Fame has gone to his head I think. Thanks for watching. 👍
@CharlieBooker00
@CharlieBooker00 Рік тому
i dont think you are the only one wondering what he is on about alot of the time or how he became such an expert on any thing and everything he calls the Hilleberg Una a two person tent .... its called the Una for a reason but well .... i worked doing expeditions for years i slept in a tent everywhere from the amazones to antarctica and most of the stuff i ever watched of hes i been like what the f..k is the guy on about ..... youtube autoplay found this video ..... you are the guy who makes those tables right? ..... best regards from scandinavia
@NoviceWildCamper
@NoviceWildCamper Рік тому
Hi buddy. Yeah it's annoying when someone as influential as him slates a secret product and people listen to his views when he's totally wrong. And yes I do make those tables. Struggling to keep up with demand to be honest though 😬 cheers for watching 👍
@CampNWildWithTheDragon
@CampNWildWithTheDragon 2 роки тому
I think everybody should just buy the granite gear crown 2 if they got the money and want a decent lightweight pack. It's definitely overlooked. They sell them on the Ultralight outdoor gear store.cost just over £200. It weighs 1142 grams but if you remove the hood and take out the frame. I got it down to 892 grams. It's my favourite pack. Maybe I should do a review on it. Everything is perfect about it. They are made in the USA but not many shops sells them here. I watched lukes video this evening. Man he hates that pack lol. It looks good though.
@NoviceWildCamper
@NoviceWildCamper 2 роки тому
Yeah but it's £200! Thats mad money for something the same weight and does the same job as mine at £53 🤷🏼‍♂️ what makes it any better? For a budget pack this is definitely one of the best 👍
@jeffjohnstone4362
@jeffjohnstone4362 2 роки тому
When something as personal as a pack fitting, it's a bit unwise to say everyone should buy one. It's available as 3 sizes but not being adjustable was an issue for me as one was too small, the other too large leaving it unpleasant to wear.
@NoviceWildCamper
@NoviceWildCamper 2 роки тому
Is that the granite gear Jeff? Mot used one but it's outside my budget. Dragon is a millionaire so its fine for him 🤣
@jeffjohnstone4362
@jeffjohnstone4362 2 роки тому
Yes, I tried the Granite gear, wasn't right for me. A Montane fitted great. Your review is great, describes features and that's all you can do. I never recommend bags or foot wear - too personal. For instance I love Salewa shoes as I have very narrow feet and it's one of a limited number of brands that fit (and sadly expensive!). Wife has wide short feet and she hates the Salewa shoes and says Regatta are more comfortable.
@NoviceWildCamper
@NoviceWildCamper 2 роки тому
Horses for courses 🙏👍
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