M3 MacBook Air 8GB vs 16GB RAM - Apple FIXED the base model?
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8GB vs 16GB RAM - 00:00
Ram Usage While Idle - 00:17
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Web Browser 3.0 Speed Test - 01:19
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@MaxTechOfficial Місяць тому
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@MattDeezly Місяць тому
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@amanthakur2376 27 днів тому
can u please tell the storage ssd of both the mac's ????
@tibo2090 15 днів тому
witch one is better and why ? macbook air 16GB Ram (512GB) VS the macbook pro 8GB Ram (512GB)
@dragonballjiujitsu Місяць тому
No modern computer should come with less than 16GB of RAM. Pushing out machines with 8GB in 2024 is like dropping a 5400RPM rotating rust drive in a desktop machine for the boot drive.
@bowlingdoughnutsmd3703 Місяць тому
You can get 16gb of ram on the MacBooks.
@techinrl9869 Місяць тому
Tell that to every PC manufacturer, all of whom sell 8GB machines, whether it be Windows or Mac. If people didn’t buy them, none of them would sell them. If you need 16GB, buy 16GB, but don’t force your needs onto others who don’t need 16GB.
@dragonballjiujitsu Місяць тому
@@bowlingdoughnutsmd3703 I'm well aware of that. Its also a custom order item that will set you back and extra $200. Again, 8GB should not even be an option. Especially considering the RAM is not user up-gradable.
@dragonballjiujitsu Місяць тому
@@techinrl9869 I am saying that to EVERY pc maker. Not just apple. The reason people buy those machines is because they are ignorant and the PCs are dirt cheap. Not because they don't "need" more RAM.
@craigjohnchronicles2504 Місяць тому
@@techinrl9869 - yes. Forcing people to buying a computer with a default 16GB of ram instead of 8GB is horrible. I've seen some places selling a single 8GB ram module for $28 (also seen them as low as $12), and a single 16GB ram module for $30. 100% certain a company like Apple won't be taking a bath if they sell a base level MacBook Air with 16GB of RAM at the same price as their 8GB version.
@JonWatkins Місяць тому
There is no reason in 2024 for apple to be doing 8gb as standard, 16gb should be the new base at NO EXTRA FEE
@bengoey Місяць тому
Apple is not a 'gentleman' company it does not care about its customers. It only cares to make money as much as possible for its shareholders.
@justrandom3949 Місяць тому
Reason: let you spend more money
@ewitte12 Місяць тому
Even if you can manage 8GB you'll be in line to upgrade faster. Same thing Nvidia does with VRAM.
@dragonballjiujitsu 29 днів тому
Exactly!
@paulsaha2242 27 днів тому
Is 16gb unified memory and 256 gb storage fine?
@favour9189 Місяць тому
12 should be minimum
@MedicoDeb Місяць тому
Yo bro... Love your dp... 🎉😂
@GoncaloCarvalhoVlogs Місяць тому
No dout
@RolandHawlett Місяць тому
16
@geoffstrickler Місяць тому
I’ve been saying this since the first M3 shipped.
@dasdos002 Місяць тому
@@geoffstrickleryou and a million other apple users
@jeffrey3498 Місяць тому
Moral of the story: more RAM is better 😃👍
@mw7967 Місяць тому
And...If you must have a MacBook...avoid the Air and buy a Pro, because the cost to double your RAM puts you close to that SKU. Nice machine but a hard sell.
@HeavenSevenWorld Місяць тому
Moral of the story: Enough RAM is enough, but 8GB is never enough*
@jeffrey3498 Місяць тому
@@HeavenSevenWorld It was in 1999 🤣
@rohitfernandes8637 Місяць тому
8 core CPU and 8 core gpu is good ?
@jeffrey3498 Місяць тому
@@rohitfernandes8637 You’re digressing 🤣
@mikey9836 Місяць тому
Been waiting for this video
@user-ld2yq5mf8u Місяць тому
That is exactly the type of review I needed! 16gb on my future M3 Air indeed 🙂 Thank you
@hmhyfg Місяць тому
Wow thank you for the best video !
@77dris Місяць тому
You have to remember that for the M1/2/3 chips, the ram shown is shared with GPU memory. So 8GB is only really around 4GB-6GB of memory for programs.
@OShackHennessy Місяць тому
I’m waiting for all the fanboys to start yelling about it being magical unified memory which is Apple speak for “shared”
@dimakonstanta1868 Місяць тому
On older Intel MacBooks 13 inch GPU memory was also shared
@hacob2004 Місяць тому
This is true of every thin and light laptop that doesn't have a dedicated GPU
@ChromeJob Місяць тому
@@OShackHennessy Unified isn't the same as shared, AFAIK. Unified means it's incorporated with the chip to create a much faster path from CPU to RAM and back again. "Shared" indicates that the video subsystem is utilizing main RAM rather than separate, video-only memory. Not a fan boy, though anyone who conflates the two (fan boy or otherwise) doesn't know so much about computer architecture and is perhaps only educated on what Apple dictates.
@OShackHennessy Місяць тому
@@hacob2004 except you can add more or spec it up on the front end without getting robbed, and 8gb is offensive on a Mac
@erickauffmann_official Місяць тому
Super complete test! 🎉
@mayankkaushik6868 Місяць тому
Hey erik ....they don't do a test for fl studio .... I'm planning to buy m3 MacBook air with 24 GB Ram .... I choose air rather than pro for portability reasons ...and the form factor... Will it work???? Fir heavy edm production?
@erickauffmann_official Місяць тому
@@mayankkaushik6868 yes it will! 24gb ram is enough for heavy FL production
@ranjitmandal1612 Місяць тому
👍
@N.K.--- Місяць тому
Apple just keeps making money
@solidsnakeXY810 Місяць тому
yes
@rohittkrr Місяць тому
we keep losing money
@chrispotterfan 29 днів тому
People should stop buying their laptops until they make base models with 16 gb ram and 500 gb storage. Sadly that probably won't happen.
@jyotitva Місяць тому
How Max Tech reads the viewers demand is amazing. Really makes me stick to one tech channel in the ocean of this niche.
@BarisPalabiyik Місяць тому
External monitors eats from the RAM too, it should be discussed too, I use my M2 Air with a huuge monitor connected, I couldn't do many tasks properly with external monitor on 8 gigs.
@clintmiller88 Місяць тому
8gb with 256ssd? Or 512?
@BarisPalabiyik Місяць тому
@@clintmiller88 My m2 is 512 nd 16gb
@haselhofler Місяць тому
I'm rocking a M1 Air connected to a LG 5k2k without any issues. But yeah I have a 16GB/256GB configuration
@69elchupacabra69 Місяць тому
Obviously, because the M-chips have unified memory.
@iBoyLPs Місяць тому
m2 with 8gb and two 4k monitors without any flaws. There may be something wrong with your Mac though.
@user-gj5wb3gp1b Місяць тому
Thanks man. Clear explanation. I needed this.
@ZeroDay_tv Місяць тому
That was really an educating Video Thank you far the comparison ❤
@kevinaraneda6236 Місяць тому
Muchas gracias por el video Max... es JUSTAMENTE LO QUE ESTABA BUSCANDO. Necesito renovar mi Macbook Pro mid 2012 y tenia la duda sobre configurar 16ram/256 o 8ram/512... creo que ya esta mas que claro, que 16 ejecutará mejor en un par de años
@quikesteve Місяць тому
Could you do a video comparing battery drain between browsers like Chrome vs Safari or Opera? I notice in my 14" M1 Pro that any browser other than Safari drains the battery twice as fast. Keep up the good work.
@tipsyjack9440 Місяць тому
Can you do the same RAM comparisons between the M1, M2 and M3 base configurations? If someone, like me, is wanting to upgrade from the M1 to M3 is it worth it since the SSD speeds are faster on the M1? Thanks and keep up the good work!
@evandonoso5305 Місяць тому
Great video! Question where to get those wallpapers you have. Thanks!
@imran.online Місяць тому
ditto!
@sidzhottake Місяць тому
Great video thank you!!!
@simonpoulsen4044 Місяць тому
I don't know if this is a stupid question, but why will the mac use swap if it still has plenty of unused ram?
@winnielai7455 Місяць тому
Thank you for helping me make up my mind for my next MacBook
@yannjouan9338 Місяць тому
Really Nice vidéo!! And for Logic Pro x ?
@m89hu Місяць тому
probably the 24gb
@danielguzman2029 Місяць тому
I really liked this comparison, thank you. I wonder How does the base M3 MacBook Pro (8GB - 512GB) perform against the 16GB - 256GB M3 MacBook Air... Maybe the best SSD surpasses the extra RAM in multitasking? or Base macbook air vs base macbook pro with this test.
@kevinclws Місяць тому
I bought the max 24GB to future-proof it for apps getting more and more bloated. I would keep my M1 if now I could increase the RAM beyond the 8GB it came with
@m89hu Місяць тому
Have you received it yet? What are your thoughts on it?
@davidgrisez 13 днів тому
I also ordered the max 24gb on my MacBook Air order because I know that applications and the Apple Mac OS keeps growing in size.
@kirkn 12 днів тому
great video - would be interesting to see how much heat they were producing during those tests
@gregash6340 Місяць тому
Fantastic video as always Max Tech! At 10:37 the 8Gb is faster on the Final Cut export. Is that correct? Were you still running background tasks on the 16Gb?
@AK-ro4gm Місяць тому
no, its just their video editor who manages to routinely mess up the names with the results in the charts... such a shame cuz theyre the best channel for tech
@jojolaser Місяць тому
I have also noticed that 8Gb is faster in the results at 10:37. Strange. Probably a mistake.
@dhanushree-gz6mp Місяць тому
😂😂😂
@HigherTech Місяць тому
This video highlights exactly this issues I experience on my 8gb M1 Air. And why I placed an order yesterday for a 16gb M3 air. I dont do much more than photo editing and normally 20+ browser tabs. Thanks.
@dimakonstanta1868 Місяць тому
On my M1 i don’t seen this. Swap use - yes, but not laggy at all.
@ChromaSup Місяць тому
@@dimakonstanta1868never with 8gb?
@dimakonstanta1868 Місяць тому
@@ChromaSup yes, but I’m not heavy user
@HAL.2024 Місяць тому
Hey man! Can you do a test with the M3 chip and Logic Pro or Pro Tools or Ableton Live?
@matthewleppan1020 5 днів тому
This was the most helpful video I’ve watched. Been looking at reviews for well over a week and this was the game change video
@johnskap2004 Місяць тому
great video thanks !!
@VideoStoryCreator Місяць тому
This is an interesting result to see the significant difference. Just out of curiosity, how does the M1 Air compare to the M3 Air (at the base 8GB model for each)?
@PaulErwinGroeneveld Місяць тому
Thanks for these reviews! Still awaiting the final verdict on the best choice when going for the air. More internal memory or more SDD; more internal memory with standard ssd vs standard memory vs more ssd test?
@evgeniy_vl7273 Місяць тому
great comparison, thanks! I would also like to see the temperature values for these modes. It would also be interesting to make a comparison with mbp14 m1 16 GB. Now I’m choosing between these two MacBooks. I will use it for Photoshop and Lightroom
@cmoullasnet Місяць тому
If Apple doubled the RAM in every single one of their machines across the board, on all configurations, their prices would make sense. Think about it.
@MrQuay03 Місяць тому
Make sense for customers, no sense for Apple and investors
@XInfinity2024 Місяць тому
You are 100% correct for the customers but if Apple shipped all products with 16GB of RAM then chances are you would be paying $100 to $200 give or take more on a product so the price it is now probably wouldn't be the price if the RAM was doubled.
@rocketmunkey1 Місяць тому
And doubled the SSD storage, and halved the price of upgrading the RAM and Storage, it costs Apple a tiny fraction of the cost they charge consumers !
@roch145 Місяць тому
A big issue is the SSDs are soldered on the motherboard. You have a chip failure and there is for all intents, no way to repair them. Which forces an expensive and unanticipated expense to replace the Mac.
@XInfinity2024 Місяць тому
@@roch145 People have upgraded the storage on an iPhone and possibly a Mac them self but its only due to them knowing how to do it and make it work but also have the equipment for such work
@brachiator1 Місяць тому
In a typical work session, I might have 10 Chrome tabs open for research and news, while doing some word processing. I might write or respond to some emails and initiate a Zoom session. I don't do much photo or video editing. A test of this use case would be interesting. I think that 8GB RAM might be acceptable here, although 12 or 16GB RAM might be preferable.
@hugopineda4017 Місяць тому
My typical work day looks exactly like this. Both my 8gb on mb air and 16gb ram on Mac mini pro still swap memory and I even get low ram warning on Mac mini. I don't get it.
@stevebooth Місяць тому
Thanks Max for this video. It confirmed I need to buy the Mac Air M3 16Gb RAM.
@gc2141 Місяць тому
I would first like to say I very much enjoy your channel! it's very detialed and made with a lot of heart. Honestly, your channel was the reason why I pulled the trigger on the 14in MBP M3 max. Upgrading from windows i7 11th gen, its fantastic. After owning it for a week, I'm thinking of upgrading further into the 16in MBP m3 MAX justify the extra cost to the larger screen and battery but primarily for the extra ram. (48 GB) and the 40 core vs the current 30 core. While I was on my 14inch MBP, I checked the used ram and just with 6-7 google chrome tab open, (no videos) 1 firefox tab open and Microsoft word document, I was already into 22GB out the 36GB ram. I'm nervous of performance with that plus 2-3 hours of Zoom (full-time online student). I was reading that mac IOS is ram hungry, and no matter how much ram is available, It would be the same situation. I'm curious to hear your thoughts on this.
@DarayaVahu Місяць тому
It’s mind-blowing that some people still excuse 8GB ram while it's so ridiculously bad just doing two things at the same time 🤦
@leebeeskee Місяць тому
Bit of an exaggeration there lol. 8GB runs fine for general users.
@DarayaVahu Місяць тому
@@leebeeskee no it doesn’t, I had it, just with enought safari tabs and switching becomes laggy which is unacceptable for $1000 laptop, or I guess yes fine for general users on $400 laptop...
@miketorre16 Місяць тому
@@leebeeskee yes, 8 gigs on the silicon valley chips is not the same as 8 gigs of RAM on PC
@bodigames Місяць тому
@@leebeeskeeno it doesn’t. My 8GB MacBook Pro can barely handle a lot of Safari tabs…… That’s not okay.
@rocketmunkey1 Місяць тому
@@leebeeskee Apple has entered the chat !
@frivis69 Місяць тому
Bro seriously I was searching this type of comparison seens "Macbook M3 air's" launcher❤ and i finally got it. You gain a subscriber.
@burtdanams4426 Місяць тому
well, I wouldn't recommend subscribing to this guy for very long. He's kind of a normal person with no real formal education about computers and who doesn't actually know basically anything at all about the fundamentals of computers, including chip design, memory management, operating systems, etc. He's just a normal dude that happens to have been able to afford reviewing products at one point and now all he does is make bland comparisons between mass market products without any insight
@frivis69 Місяць тому
@@burtdanams4426 ooh really, then suggest me some
@PatrickSteil Місяць тому
Would love to see similar test between 16 and 24Gb models. How much do you have to push the 16gb for it to slow down compared to 24Gb. My 16Gb M1 is awesome :)
@ahaimes6320 Місяць тому
That 5GB used when opening up includes >3GB of pre-fetched cache. The system will release that when needed so that 3GB is effectively available.
@isbestlizard Місяць тому
Exactly. Do free -h from a terminal and you should get more details
@valdir7426 Місяць тому
yeah that number doesn't mean much; the memory pressure; compressed memory and swap size give you all the indication you need. it's a shame because some people assume "oh my mac has nothing running and I'm already out" but macos will use all the ram it can. You get a perf bonus with 16GB but it will take a lot for a 8GB model to grind to a halt.
@ranjitmandal1612 Місяць тому
😮
@shoelessone 21 день тому
Yeah so many of these reviews are really frustrating when they talk about this. I honestly can't believe how many popular tech reviewers / news outlets / etc use the amount of memory used at startup "at rest" as their first point to drive home how little memory is available. Why not use the memory if it's available to optimize, if the memory is just sitting empty / unused it's being "wasted."
@murtazachaudhary3339 Місяць тому
Nice video comparison
@neocs193p Місяць тому
Was expecting an SSD speed comparison between the 256GB and the 512GB. Also, Xcode tests. Cheers!
@snitkjaer Місяць тому
Great video thanks! I guess it comes down to MacBook Pro M3 14" 16GB/512GB (discounted) vs MacBook Air 13" M3 16GB/512GB.
@kevinasaurus Місяць тому
I just ordered a new Air and opted for the 24 GB of RAM. Hopefully it’s not overkill but I expect the machine to be quite speedy. 😊
@m89hu Місяць тому
Have you received it yet? What are your thoughts?
@airtightbox Місяць тому
Okay, so what are the storage performance differences between 512GB and 1TB, on a system with 16GB RAM?
@ashiq_r Місяць тому
I have an old 2018 Air that had 8g 128g config. Just recently I bought a 16g 512g logic board from ebay, swapped the boards, sold the old 8g board for roughly $10 less than the 16g board. It’s running Sonoma with almost NO swap. Sonoma is very heavy and absolutely not optimized for intel macs, yet, the 16g ram is making a huge difference. I’ll buy a new Air when the base gets atleast 12g ram.
@fidiak Місяць тому
Nice viedo, thank you
@AdamsjPriah 10 днів тому
Takiego porówna potrzebowałem. Dzięki. :)
@achim7234 Місяць тому
I am a user who buys a Mac / Macbook to last for 7+ years so I usually always buy double and triple of what the base configuration might be at the time of purchase. With my MacBook Air mid 2012 seeing a replacement this spring/summer I will go for the 24GB option.
@nicolasb.henry294 Місяць тому
If you have enough to do it it´s fine but most people can´t afford it. 16gb Ram 512 SSD should be the base configuration.
@valdir7426 Місяць тому
with the same amount you could probably get 2 more basic machines every 4 years. plus your machine will not be worth much compared to what you paid it on the resale market.
@achim7234 Місяць тому
I am most likely non representative of a user for this UKposts channel. You guys are hardcore techies and you know so much more about tech/Mac than I ever will. I, maybe like many others (????), don't want to think about buying the latest, best, best bang for the buck technology piece, but we buy when we have to (like in my case the 2012 MBA giving me grieve), so then I go and buy something that hopefully covers me for another 10 years. Given my age, I even don´t know if I will ever need to buy a new Macbook again after the new M3 MBA. @@valdir7426
@user-mn7hy1hd1w Місяць тому
I’m doing the same thing except 7 years of primary use and 3 years of auxiliary use (giving to my daughter to use for school). I broke down the cost to a monthly basis excluding depreciation and compared it to windows laptops. They usually only last me 2-4 years before breaking or becoming unusable and it turned out to be cheaper by around $8 a month to buy the Mac air compared to a comparable windows laptop (which is 1/3 cheaper)
@burtdanams4426 Місяць тому
No offense man, but your purchasing strategy is kinda foolish depending on whether I"m assessing your usage correctly. Look I'm also a MARATHON user of Macs. My last Macbook was a 2015 MacBook Pro that I begrudgingly replaced because my cats broke it a couple weeks ago. I replaced it with M1 Pro MBP in base config. Considering you have been using a 2012 Air for a decade, you seem like a pretty low scale user. Try to slow down and think about what you are actually saying here. You are trying to PREDICT THE FUTURE of computers with YOUR WALLET, and not in a way that would actually make you money, like the stock market or any other investment. You are just mindlessly future proofing your devices instead of actually asking yourself "how much ram and storage do I actually need and what I will need". You would save considerably more money buying a machine with reasonable specs or especially just buying a used machine like an M1 Pro that comes with 16gb and 512gb storage standard. And then even if you upgrade it in like 5-6 years, you'll still save much more money buying external drives or just buying a newer machine with more ram as standard in the future.
@onuronan8674 Місяць тому
thanks for video
@its_2Slick Місяць тому
Awesome video was wondering if you could do one with the 24 gb ram to see the difference for the air for all 3.
@LL-qm3sl Місяць тому
Are there any significant performance differences between the 13' and 15' models?
@terrencechu7479 Місяць тому
What's the app you use to measure CPU and GPU usage at the top bar?
@smoovedave Місяць тому
Same I would like to know this as well
@danielguzman2029 Місяць тому
amazing test
@joewest9470 Місяць тому
Glad to hear they fixed the SSD problem, which will help with swap speeds. I do my "heavy lifting" and most work with a 16GB Mac Mini, which never leaves the "green" memory pressure, so for occasional portable work, I'm leaning towards the 8GB MBA model with the following justification: the upgrade to 16 GB costs about 20% of the price. In other words, if I replace it after about 5-6 years (roughly), then if I save the 20%, I can replace it about a year earlier. But thank you for your video; I will be sure to test it well (within the 2-week return window) for my use case and make sure there's a margin to allow for 4-5 years of use.
@vlkhvan Місяць тому
Thank you, this is the most sensible take on this question. Others here just scream nonsense about unrealistic use cases and exaggerated "issues". Heavy users buy Pro 14-16 as their main machines (if they want a laptop) or Mac Mini/Studio, and use MBA as a portable complementary device, and don't complain. Poor "wannabe professionals" buy base MBA as their only machine and then whine about 8Gb RAM, this is just pathetic
@DieBaertigeUrsula Місяць тому
Would be interesting to see the performance differences in using Xcode and compiling the same project or so, but great job anyways 👌☺️
@user-pp3dl8id7r Місяць тому
Excellent content
@rhondacaulder1432 Місяць тому
How does the M3 MacBook Air with 16 GB compare to the M2 MacBook Air with 16 GB? I currently have the latter with 1T storage and everything I’ve seen says to not upgrade. Is the M3 that much better than the M2?
@sallyharris1093 Місяць тому
Love the comparison. I love tech, but I’m not that smart about it. You help me understand and make a decision about which to get.
@ChromeJob Місяць тому
Have to agree here, though for different reasons. I've been test driving M2 MBAs from Costco, both with 8GB/256GB. I much prefer the 15" for the huge trackpad, expansive screen and … on that second, using the 15” in Sidecar mode (extending a desktop display to use the 15” MBA’s screen) is great for flexibility. (And using Handoff, you can pick up the MBA and continue working elsewhere.) In these cases, having a pliable and dynamic level of available RAM pays off. 8GB just ain’t enough for macOS Sonoma. Even without doing CPU intensive stuff like photo, video, or rendering work like you illustrated, I’ve seen the 8GB RAM MBAs start to slow down and swap out with 5-6 apps open with work in progress (and not even using MS Office apps, just Safari, Chrome, Notes, Reminders, Messages, Freeform). This is unacceptable to me for a $1300 computer (bought for $1000 at Costco, a killer deal but a still cool grand). I’ve noticed that macOS is slow to release swapping and return to an ideal memory management situation after closing apps, even letting some time go by. It’s helped a little by logging out and back in (leveraging the “reopen windows” option), but not as effectively as restarting the laptop. When an OS gets to a point that I have to restart the machine to get the memory allocation sweet spot, no matter how speedily it does this, I’m not a happy user. This might be slightly more exacerbated by the 15” screen’s greater resolution, but I don’t sympathize. A laptop should be able to handle itself gracefully, not start limping along after an hour’s work in 6 apps. Apple should be ashamed that they sell entry level MacBooks in 2023, 2024 with only 8GB RAM when you can buy a much more agile Chromebook for half the price.
@platinoir Місяць тому
That’s why I ordered mine with 24GB Reason is my current 2014 MacBook Pro has 16, so just to feel that upgrade.
@m89hu Місяць тому
Have you received it yet? What are your thoughts on it?
@platinoir Місяць тому
@@m89hu it’s really good & buttery smooth. But I would say 24GB is overkill, just like my 16GB I never got close to running out of memory
@Akshaydesai28 Місяць тому
Hi Max, could you please do a test between base m3 macbook pro vs 16gb m3 macbook Air? That would help me a lot in the decision. I'm looking for benchmark comparison like : Cinebench, 3d mark wildlife, geekbench and blackmagic. Thanks in advance 🖤
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@truthjunkie3 Місяць тому
Final cut 4k HEVC with effects test, apparently you didn't notice, but your chart says the 8GB Air actually beat the 16GB. That doesn't seem likely. Maybe its mislabeled?
@shubhamchauhan4817 Місяць тому
Did it heat up during multitasking ?
@saintkenny9296 Місяць тому
I bought the 2021 iMac 24" during the pandemic and unless during the time you wanted to wait up to 3 months to get a iMac with 16gigs you would either wait that long, or just take the 8gig option. I did get 512 and stayed away from the base model for sure! I guess in 5 or so years it will be time to upgrade my iMac with I hope a system that can actually play real games and either sell this one off, or use it for something else? I think Apple is getting better all the time and after all these years is finally getting into real games for the 1st time ever where the iPhone 15 Pro and Pro Max can do. I hope the bluetooth to a larger screen doesn't kill the performance because playing anything close to real console game the iPhone even the Max is way too dang small. Thank you for the video, Max!
@The1Weapon Місяць тому
I think a good idea would be to discuss how Dynamic Caching might be playing into this test, given that it’s a new feature of the M3 series.
@kinkiyayoutubization Місяць тому
Good point !! Yes, should compare M2 8GB with M3 8GB
@mendodsoregonbackroads6632 Місяць тому
I bought a M2 air last year with only 8GB as a test to see I it was going to be enough. The longer I have it the more comfortable I’m getting with the amount of Ram. I was going to get a separate machine to run a Linux distro on but then I said screw it, I’ll try it on the M2. You know what, it works. Im running Kali using the UTM VM with 4GB of the 8 allocated to the VM. Sure I’m using some swap, but there are no slowdowns or crashes. Everything is working fine. I’m probably not going to get another 8GB machine again, but I can say that it works with no issues if I don’t have everything in the world open on MacOS while the VM is running. So my conclusion is that 8GB will do the job. I would feel better with 12GB but so far no problem having a few things open on Mac while also getting PCACPs in wireshark or using the aircrack suite at the same time.
@La_Meth_Witch Місяць тому
You stuffed up 😅😅
@justinavila1320 21 день тому
Yeah, I have an air 8gb M1 that my work provides for office tasks (maybe 10-15 Google tabs, slack, VOIP) running all at once switching btw them. 8 hour days no issues for these types of tasks. For creative stuff I have a top spec baseline M3 16 with 48gb ram. For everyday stuff and office stuff - I dont see a difference. I'm not trying to do lightroom + 15 tabs on my air (mainly cause its the jobs comp and not mine) but in real world usage for 40 hours a week its been fine.
@justinavila1320 21 день тому
I love all the "you need at least blah blah" and yet these same people are NOT having to use the 8gb machines, they've skipped over them.
@mendodsoregonbackroads6632 21 день тому
@@justinavila1320 Well, I'm using both. and 8GB will work, but 16GB is better.
@geolykos Місяць тому
just curious, do most people that buy a macbook air use these programs? Most people will run chrome tabs, which make no difference, and maybe play a game or a movie. Unless 8gb is not enough to do these tasks the ram deficiency won't be noticeable. I don't think there's many people that buy a macbook air to do video editing.
@ChromeJob Місяць тому
I've been able to run my 8GB MBA M2 into yellow and red memory pressure just running Chrome, and some Apple apps (Safari, Notes, Freeform). Though I have Google Drive, 1Password, Logitech Options+ running in the background on login. Yes, MaxTech's demo with CPU intensive apps is a quick shortcut to illustrating the deficiencies, but you might repeat this test with just "lite" Apple apps. I've done it.
@martmeister Місяць тому
what is the name of the app running in the toolbar showing CPU/GPU usage and temp?
@1956mercy Місяць тому
I can see the difference. However for folks that have the M2 and do regular task or for personal use, and not for pic editing or video editing. I don’t see why to upgrade. Maybe upgrade after 2 years if needed but I wouldn’t. This comparison is good for those heavy workloads that some do.
@Bakapooru Місяць тому
Based on your description, you probably wouldn’t need a new computer for eight or ten years. I had the first MBP with SSD drive (2012?) and I just replaced it when the SSD failed.😅
@brandonchism6960 Місяць тому
@@Bakapooru you have a point there. I had a 2011 MBP that I didn't replace until 2020, just before the M1 chips dropped. I used it for research, school work, Netflix, shopping, and general browsing. When my current one goes out, I'll likely buy an Air to replace it. I don't think I'll get another Pro. I just don't run them nearly hard enough to warrant the expense.
@whfowle Місяць тому
I would like to see the difference in performance with 24GB and a 1TB SSD.
@reconshaun Місяць тому
I agree. This is the configuration that I am considering (mainly for future proofing), but none of the videos really mention it.
@davetravels9273 Місяць тому
I just ordered this config but mostly be a use I keep my Mac’s for 5+ years. My wife’s m1 with 16 and 1 tb is already maxing out the ram.
@weekendintokyo Місяць тому
The difference between 16gb and 24gb Ram is marginal if not inexistent. He made a video comparing a 16gb vs 32gb of ram on his channel go search for it, there's basically no difference for anything beyond 16gb unless you're a super hardcore user that needs to render 3d and have photoshop/lightroom/after efects open all at the same time@@reconshaun
@paulsaha2242 27 днів тому
Does SSD really matters? I can have an external storage device.
@davetravels9273 27 днів тому
@@paulsaha2242 well you should ensure that you have plenty of space for memory swap in addition to everything else you store on the device. Generally you want to only use 60-80% of your SSD.
@BP-xe7dw Місяць тому
I am in the process of purchasing a new laptop. I came quicly to realization to spend as much as the budget permits I think you want to future proof as much as you can depending on what type of work you are using it. For my photography, i simply can't be parsimonious. Great video.
@aspiring... Місяць тому
What did you decide on? I am currently looking to buy a new laptop. I am a Windows user and I need a laptop for general use and light photo editing.
@BP-xe7dw Місяць тому
@@aspiring... I will go with Macbook pro 24ram . The refurbished section of Apple seems to be the best deal. Unless of course, there is another discount that comes along. I am heavy on photo editing, semi professional, both lightroom and photoshop. I have been windows user at work all my life, at home I have I mac, that is now 10 years old. It has been perfect and the apple support has been great up to this point. Photoshop and Lightroom are optimized for Apple products. I never had any issue with it. In your case, you might want to look at macbook air, they have great deals right now. It would be more than sufficient There is a learning curve in terms of OS. Once you get used to it. Hard to go back. Hope that helps.
@eraditortv Місяць тому
What is the storage on both?
@Bakapooru Місяць тому
Good video. Now I know that I would never have a problem or slow down on my M3 because I would never do as many stressful tasks at the same time. All this hype of 8gb isn’t enough doesn’t concern me.
@babylonghost Місяць тому
Thanks nice video
@EnglishinTx Місяць тому
Just curious - What is the benefit of using Chrome over Safari? I thought that Safari was more efficient but I also know that Chrome is more of a "standard" and has support for more extensions. Would love to hear the Max take...
@Musescore_Brasil Місяць тому
I edit 4k videos and use a lot of chrome tabs, and I never felt like my M1 Macbook Air was slow. The system and apps are very well optmized.. I have a windows PC with 32gb, 13600k, 4060ti, and barely use it
@ChromaSup Місяць тому
M1 with 8gb?
@Wonder_Wicks Місяць тому
Didn't they fix the SSD speed issues as well? Could the new M3 be benefitting from speed, by not only the ram, but the ssd speeds?
@eticketride Місяць тому
So it looks like it can be okay for casual single-task use. For some, that’s enough. I never liked the base RAM config since it’s not upgradable and that’s a shame. When I bought my original M1 MB-Air, I bought it with the max 16Gb RAM because I knew I would also be occasionally running Parallels (which is does quite well). My M1 Max MBP with 64Gb runs Mac/Win/and Linux. Three finger swiping between them, like having three computers in one. Thing is a beast. Since Apple’s transition to their own silicon, I don’t feel as complelled to focus on only the latest and greatest anymore, as devices from a generation or even two back are still very capable at an appreciable discount over current gen machines.
@subhamcoder Місяць тому
hey can you make a video about m3 air 16 gb vs macbook pro m3 base variant(8 gb)
@thomaspaaruppedersen6781 Місяць тому
The test with using Chrome while exporting, is to me the most relevant and realistic. The 8GB is much slower, for *much longer!* Thank you for this test getting much closer to a realistic scenario. I currently have 20 Chrome tabs open, about 8 of those with UKposts videos, then Outlook, Excel, PowerPoint, Word, OneNote, and a few other business apps. It's always like that. An integral part of how I use a computer.
@bosternou96 Місяць тому
The result for the same test on the m1 8 vs 16 different?
@GurmeetSingh-fr8uo Місяць тому
For M3 Air 13” is it worth going for 24gb ram or 16gb enough ?
@Gaurang_Khatri Місяць тому
Hey i want to buy a laptop for video editing, Im planning to get MacBook air m3 (8-256) and 2tb external ssd Will this be enough for editing lengthy podcast videos and 4k videos.. Please suggest
@makeshiftgamer5864 29 днів тому
does anyone know the application he is using to show the cpu and gpu usage? I'd love to know so I can use it to monitor my mac when I'm doing heavy tasks like gaming to make sure I'm not damaging it
@dsmith5940 Місяць тому
Could we have a similar comparison with an M3 Air with 24Gb RAM, in gaming, where the shared RAM for the GPU could be rate-limiting, even at 16Gb?
@sebasguti7708 Місяць тому
If the MBA M3 16GB supports full acceleration with Lightroom, then the MBP M3 16GB should support that too, correct?
@ozgurutku Місяць тому
thanks but why final cut pro? Most of the pros don't uses Finalcut anymore:(
@hondo_chen Місяць тому
So where does Apple get 8g ram in 2024? Do they have a time machine?
@geek-channel Місяць тому
It is not "limiting itself". Free RAM = wasted RAM. Ideally, the OS does caching on all of the available memory (unless you really have too much memory for your workloads). As far as it does not start swapping - you have enough memory for your workloads. When it is short on memory, memory pressure will get yellow and red - and you will se swapping. Rendering is memory heavy task. So if you need daily do some rendering, better get more RAM - 32 or 64 at least. Depends on your projects. If you need render occasionally, even with small amount of RAM it will do, just need wait a little longer.
@valdir7426 Місяць тому
yeah exactly. people seem to believe that your computer will stop working if you don't have enough ram. it will just be slightly less performant depending on the task, as these tests show.
@TokyoNeko8 Місяць тому
I respect the hustle
@amanthakur2376 Місяць тому
can u please tell the storage ssd of both tha mac's ????
@thevenicelive Місяць тому
I have been programming for the last 6-7 years, and I have m3 air with 8 gb of ram, tbh it's enough for me for daily basis tasks. I also have 16gb windows with ryzen 5 2020 and thats is also good but battery life is a bummer non arm processors.
@AyaWetts Місяць тому
I assume the graph at 10:35 is a typo and the 8GB wasn't actually better than the 16GB ?
@tri0xin Місяць тому
Excellent video.. do you have a video of an m2 16gb vs a m3 16gb? I could save a few hundred dollars on the M2 buying used/renewed. If it's somewhat significant I wouldn't mind spending the extra money.. if it's 5 percent or so I would definitely go with the M2
@ahaimes6320 Місяць тому
This proves all the fuss about dual NAND SSDs was misleading. We finally see a 16GB -v- 8GB, which proves that RAM makes the difference when heavy multitasking is involved. Of course, any sensible techie knows that if you are doing heavy multitasking, more RAM is essential. Every webpage uses about 400 MB of RAM, so twenty tabs will swamp 8GB. By the way this is also the case of 8GB Windows machines. Physics is physics! So, 8GB is only for people like me who have a few tabs open. I have 6-8 and a few apps. I must admit that if I am doing photo editing, I will clear the RAM so that the app can use all RAM. It is no big deal, as we can see here; with the full 8GB available, the time is just a couple of minutes, enough to get the coffee brewing. Typing on my MB Pro 13 M1 base, and no issues at all for the past 3.5 years. You are fine if you get the Air as long as you understand that performance is dependent on specs. And your expectations are grounded in reality.
@dansanger5340 Місяць тому
The difference would be even bigger with a single NAND SSD because the swapping would be slower.
@mikiqex Місяць тому
Who use 20 tabs at the same time? Browsers often offload unused tabs from RAM.
@ranjitmandal1612 Місяць тому
👍
@uselessmale8654 Місяць тому
Please make a battery test between M3 and M2 macbook air
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