Making Dry Ice from scratch

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Hyperspace Pirate

Hyperspace Pirate

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In this video, I'm going to show how to make dry ice (frozen CO2) from scratch. I thought using dry ice to pre-cool my pulse tube cryocooler might help me get lower temperatures, since dry ice is -79C, and adding my pulse tube's ~100C temperature drop on top of that could get me very close to liquid nitrogen temperatures. But instead of just buying dry ice, I wanted to see if it was feasible to make it myself, so I went through the steps of producing, cooling/compressing, and discharging the CO2
as liquid to form ice.
There are several ways to produce CO2 - a few of these are:
-Reacting acid with baking soda
-Cooling and collecting exhaust from combustion of hydrocarbons
-Capturing exhaust from yeast as it consumes sugar
-Capturing human breath
-Dissolving atmospheric CO2 in water and extracting it under vacuum
-Reacting atmospheric CO2 with Calcium Hydroxide, creating Calcium Carbonate, then decomposing the Calcium Carbonate to release CO2 and Calcium Oxide. The Calcium Oxide is later regenerated back into Calcium Hydroxide with sodium hydroxide.
Once the CO2 is captured, it has to be stored. In theory, large gas bags could be used, but that's not very practical, so i used a fridge compressor to force the captured gas into a compressed air tank at ~160 PSI (about 12 bar). Using a 10 gallon (38L) tank, i stored approximately 1.8 lb (0.82kg) of CO2 gas.
However, to freeze CO2, it first has to be liquified by either high pressure, very low temperatues, or both. To liquify at room temperature around 25C requires about 60 bar of pressure (~867 psi), but my compressor was only capable of producing about 400 psi (about 28 bar). In order to liquify the CO2 at this pressure, i had to put the tank in an ice bath at 0C.
Even this wasn't quite enough, though, so to get a little bit of extra pressure, i fed the output from the 12 bar tank into the suction side of my compressor, allowing it to produce close to 600 PSI at the discharge side. In the ice bath, this was enough pressure to liquify the CO2, but it took a little over an hour to transfer and condense the CO2 from the 12 bar tank. I collected about 500 grams of liquid CO2 in the high pressure tank.
Once I had the liquid CO2, i turned my high pressure tank upside down so that the liquid would come out first, and discharged it. Liquid CO2 can't exist at 1 atmosphere of pressure, so as soon as it comes out of the tank, it flash freezes to dry ice at -79C.
The tricky part is capturing the frozen CO2, since most of it blasts out into the atmosphere. The container being used to capture the ice needs to be vented to work properly, but not vented too much, or else all the CO2 will be lost. To do this, I tried a sock (effectively a porous container), which probably collected less than 20% of the CO2 from the tank as ice, and came out in a fine powder, meaning it didn't last long. The second approach used a mold with velt holes, but i only recovered about ~2% of the CO2 this way.
I think the key to creating a block of dry ice is to discharge relatively slowly into a mold. I had my valve full open, and I think instead of allowing ice to collect and settle in the mold, the flow was blasting it out.
Ultimately, the time and cost of producing the dry ice from scratch make it impractical as a pre-cooler for liquid nitrogen generation.
Music Used:
Kevin MacLeod - Lobby Time
Kevin MacLeod - George Street Shuffle
Kevin MacLeod - Groove Groove

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@HyperspacePirate
@HyperspacePirate Рік тому
For those who are curious, the "KSP Soundtrack" is "Groove Groove" by Kevin MacLeod. Kerbal Space Program used several Kevin MacLeod tracks for their music in early development because they're royalty free, and left them in the game even after they started producing their own soundtrack music.
@HyperspacePirate
@HyperspacePirate Рік тому
@@criticalevent Not really. Better to buy the CO2 unless you happened to already have large quantities of the reagents on hand
@dragonsyph2557
@dragonsyph2557 Рік тому
Might have been a bit easyer if you used like a water chiller for like a laser, they can get super chilled for around 150 bucks and have pretty powerful compressors.
@ablemagawitch
@ablemagawitch Рік тому
at 14:10 you should really be wearing some gloves for thermal safety from frostbite, aka frozen skin & body tissue. Which is very is nasty & painful to experience. You can quickly cause your hands to become damaged, in very a painful way as they thaw and the flesh may be necrotic. Requiring amputation. Freezing your flesh or "Frostbite"(the name trivializes how serious it can be )is something people climbing mountains like Everest fear more than falling. Cool experiment and great teaching video , just please think about preserving your body. I used to work with dry ice in large amounts on shows, often breaking big blocks from the storage coolers into small pieces so they hard more surface area for the dry ice fog machines. There few more safety rules you want to follow, but that bare skin contact is big no no for the risk. Even if just momentary.
@matty4z
@matty4z Рік тому
13:12 oh god no lol XD
@dragonsyph2557
@dragonsyph2557 Рік тому
@@ablemagawitch NO
@maddsua
@maddsua Рік тому
This is so underrated. C'mon, this stuff is much better that all of pop-science channels put together
@maddsua
@maddsua Рік тому
Trapped farts. LMAO
@jacobb7608
@jacobb7608 Рік тому
I know as much as I love channels like NileRed, everything has become clickbait-y and unoriginal.
@maddsua
@maddsua Рік тому
@@jacobb7608 well okay, not all 1M+ channels suck, but most of them for sure
@DUKE_of_RAMBLE
@DUKE_of_RAMBLE Рік тому
Explosions&Fire / Extractions&Ire (sis channel) and LabCoatz also don't suck. 😉👍 Although, the latter is just starting out and last time I checked, he only had 20K subs with NileRed's help (I stumbled across him at 10K, and also mentioned him in a E&F community post).
@Correct_Opinion
@Correct_Opinion Рік тому
Chemiolis, chemdelic, and chemical force are also great
@bigclivedotcom
@bigclivedotcom Рік тому
I used a very simple dry ice puck maker designed for special effects use. It was two disks of wood with velcro hook strips glued and stapled on them, and a pipe connector tapped into one the disks. In use, a larger velcro strap was applied around the two disks with a gap for the puck of dry ice to form inside. Then liquid CO2 was blown in until the puck started making slight creaking noises. When the velcro was undone there was a nice solid puck of dry ice inside. That was an impressive way of making enough CO2. I wonder if the first compressor was angry about being started under pressure, since they aren't really designed for that.
@etherealrose2139
@etherealrose2139 Місяць тому
It may not have been broke, could have just been the starter burned out, easy replacement. There is also a chance it melted some insulation because he ran a heavy load with no cooling (usually refrigerant provides cooling in addition to the oil.) Lastly, he plugged it in with no load (rotor) so of course it'll just overheat and definitely short at that point. It's impossible to say.
@MechMan0124
@MechMan0124 8 місяців тому
3:32 - You need to add an air stone diffuser to your bubbler/scrubber to reduce sloshing and improve absorption of fumes and such. The sloshing is depleting your desiccant capacity too quickly as can be seen with the dripping into your drier. Also add some salt to your ice bath for a few extra degrees of cooling. You can get down to -21C with enough salt, reducing your pressure requirement for condensation down to just 19 bar.
@RNA0ROGER
@RNA0ROGER Рік тому
I love the carefully included humour and educational value of your content.
@WillSmithAnarchy
@WillSmithAnarchy Рік тому
I agree
@bobbyc2768
@bobbyc2768 10 місяців тому
yea, the mask thing had me rolling
@justrolledintotheshop
@justrolledintotheshop 8 місяців тому
newest addition to the crusty sock collection!
@MarkusBenjaminAnders
@MarkusBenjaminAnders Рік тому
"It could eeeasily be lethal... Anyway" Stay safe!
@Hellsong89
@Hellsong89 Рік тому
If that tread fails all that pressure is released. Frosts damage to skin, suffocation, loss of hearing and turning bottle into ballistic missile that has enough force to punch trough brick wall are the very potential consequences depending on detail like location, top of turning that peace into impro bullet. Local trade school had student be poked to weld cap to pipe, fill it with oxy acetylene mix and hit the spark. End result lead to whole welding section moving it self to walls and removing all the windows in 50 meter radius. Top of that all the gas bottles also went to walls from several broken the valve off and turned into ICBM's going trough the brick wall, metal roof like it was not there. Furthest away one was found 100 meters away, mind those bottles are really heavy even when empty. This one has less mass and pressure, but its still enough to be dangerous if you fuck something up, so learn what is needed to make it safely, well as consider all the risks constantly. Its better if you can do everything remotely from behind the brick wall or similar shield to hinder it and mind having well ventilated area that allows co2 be replaced with fresh air fast. Full lung full of co2 can knock you off pretty damn fast.
@Paulster2
@Paulster2 Рік тому
Safety 3rd, right?
@28russ
@28russ Рік тому
@@Hellsong89 Yeah I've heard a couple of oxy acetylene bombs go off and they go off with one hell a bang lol. I guy I know made one when he was an apprentice welder. Set it off in the workshop and ruptured his bosses ear drums. He wasn't an apprentice there after that 😂😂
@goldenmeanphaseconjunction313
@goldenmeanphaseconjunction313 Рік тому
So true, But so is an outlet Or gasoline. That being said, again true, Well said
@erolflyn1741
@erolflyn1741 Рік тому
@@Hellsong89 päüää Ä0ä0äü0ä
@samgrattan5465
@samgrattan5465 Рік тому
Your DIY chemical engineering is so awesome and inspiring. I’ve studied this stuff in school, yet between all the thermodynamics, transport phenomena and kinetics classes, I can’t think of a better way to demonstrate the spirit of engineering than what you’re doing right now. Keep up the good work!
@izzzzzz6
@izzzzzz6 Рік тому
What else does he make at home? lol
@romancandlefight1144
@romancandlefight1144 11 місяців тому
His wife.. happy
@genuismensa
@genuismensa Рік тому
I am so used to watching Nile Red and all of his proper glassware and then I find you... I sub'd the second I saw the gatorade bottles as test equipment. Now I know we are about to learn some sketchy fun stuff. This is how I experiment in my garage too. Sometimes you just want to learn but don't have every single part so you just make it out of normal household goods.
@k.c.sunshine1934
@k.c.sunshine1934 Рік тому
I work at a big box store in the plumbing department. Sometimes we get people trying to do such creative projects. I'm glad that you understand the danger. Thank you for allowing us to live vicariously with your videos! Stay safe!
@humannotanalien8675
@humannotanalien8675 Рік тому
Hey I love my custom built muskets.
@Willrocs
@Willrocs Рік тому
Can ya elaborate on these homemade blunderbus lol
@amosbackstrom5366
@amosbackstrom5366 Рік тому
​​@@humannotanalien8675 You can make the best cannons from scrapped hydraulic cylinders. They even come with a built in pivot and touch port🫣💥
@charliepearce8767
@charliepearce8767 10 місяців тому
​@@amosbackstrom5366 Ha ha !
@ProtoV33MK1
@ProtoV33MK1 8 місяців тому
Yikes. Closest I've come to that was making a u-bend nozzle for my pressure washer to clean gutters from the ground, and even that sketched me out.
@leifhietala8074
@leifhietala8074 Рік тому
I remember seeing in a science equipment catalog, maybe Edmund back in the day, a dry ice sock, the use of which I never explored. I hadn't thought about that in probably 20 years or more until you tied the sock to the outlet. "Hey, so that's how it works!"
@bobbyvarnell9350
@bobbyvarnell9350 Рік тому
I remember that in the Edmond catalog, it came with a denim sock to collect the ice.
@KibitoAkuya
@KibitoAkuya Рік тому
@@bobbyvarnell9350 is there anything special to it(material it's made of or something) or is it basically just a sock?
@kathleenrobertpogue6818
@kathleenrobertpogue6818 Рік тому
@@KibitoAkuya I think you just want a thick material. You can buy the bags and make your own with a tank of co2. It wastes a lot though. They also make these little plastic blocks that you can release the co2 into. Also wastes a lot of co2. This is fine if you only need to make a little bit every once in a while. Anything more than that and you'll want to spend 5k on a machine that pulls co2 out of the air and makes dry ice like a regular ice machine.
@tylisirn
@tylisirn Рік тому
@@kathleenrobertpogue6818 And in-between those, just buy the dry ice directly.
@cambridgemart2075
@cambridgemart2075 Рік тому
@@KibitoAkuya Denim is good because it's relatively smooth so the dry ice doesn't tend to stick to it. Our setup used a denim sock surrounding a laboratory beaker, it seemed to be very effective.
@Fab-n-dabKev
@Fab-n-dabKev Рік тому
Testing the co2 by extinguishing flames is essentially the mechanism by which welding gas works. Keeps the oxygen out to keep the metal from burning and reacting with atmosphere making oxides and shit. Argon does that also but also assists in maintaining an arc.
@flipping1n0s
@flipping1n0s 11 місяців тому
Those little compressors are usually cooled by "cold/cool" refrigerant in the return/suction. It was probably working so hard windings got hot and shorted. Like others have said, lubrication is important too.
@UltraBrot
@UltraBrot Рік тому
I think there is still a lot of potential to increase the yield by precooling the CO2 liquid to reduce the vapor pressure. Try using a bath of ice in saturated saltwater to get it below 0°C. Also you could take inspiration from the Linde process: Fix a copper tube to the CO2 pressure vessel and squeeze the end nearly closed, so that the flow of CO2 is throttled there instead of the valve. Put this upside down inside a thermos bottle or dewar - preferably a narrow one. The CO2 cools at the throttle at the bottom of the thermos. The escaping gas will then precool the liquid in the copper tube and increase the yield. Of course you must make sure the copper tube can take the pressure. It might be brittle at low temperature.
@firstmkb
@firstmkb Рік тому
Good idea, but you could even use a thermos bottle instead of a Dewar.
@jimellis1496
@jimellis1496 Рік тому
Using ordinary table salt (NaCl) can get down to -7 °C or 20 °F. Other salts can get a lower temp, but are not as readily available (you would have to order them online instead of getting it at the grocery store).
@Rollyn01
@Rollyn01 Рік тому
@@jimellis1496 In Northern states, you can get rock salts from the grocery store during winter. They can help bring the temp to -15°C.
@louistournas120
@louistournas120 Рік тому
@@Rollyn01 Actually, the freezing point of NaCl and water is 18 °C. I think CaCl2 and water is -40 °C. I used such a cold solution of NaCl when I was distilling benzene. It was a bad idea. The benzene froze in the graham condenser (coiled tubing).
@Rollyn01
@Rollyn01 Рік тому
@@louistournas120 Soooooooooo... CaCl2 + H2O + Stirling heat pump = a really good cryocooler is what I'm hearing? 🤔🤔🤔
@M4n10L
@M4n10L Рік тому
Seems to me like you chose the grippiest material to gather dry ice onto. Thin pillowcases perform much better and its easier to get the dry ice out of them, also dry ice packs rly nice, so u dont have to go straight into pellets. I also think a 3D printed nozzle of some kind could help with creating more snow.
@scottmacintyre3620
@scottmacintyre3620 6 місяців тому
We use a commercially available horn and a denim bag to collect the dry ice.
@rolandvanhall8622
@rolandvanhall8622 Рік тому
Your Embraco is a R134 refrigerant. In order to reach high pressure you should use a R404 or R410 refrigerant type of compressor. Danfoss series SC12CC or SC15CC. Also preferably look for a "medium back pressure" as they are suited for higher current through the stator. Putting current through the stator without the rotor running results in no counter EMF (Electro Magnetic Force). Every stator will burn if you do what you did. Notice that all hermetic compressors are protected with a bi-metal current limiter. So the click you heard probably is the over current protection, which will reset itself automatically. When you start experimenting with ethylene, make sure the first trap is at least -30'C, otherwise pressure will be too high. Use preferably R410 in your first stage. For the second stage you will be unable to find an expension valve. You can only run this stage using capillary. It is a long way to get a two stage system working from scracttch or know-how. You can reach me via linked-in, Roland van Hall - Tamson Instruments.
@RT-qd8yl
@RT-qd8yl 8 місяців тому
Isn't it great watching homeowners try to do refrigeration?
@evanwilliams9801
@evanwilliams9801 9 місяців тому
As someone who fills cryogenic liquids, the lack of ppe is both realistic and terrifying 😂
@todd8155
@todd8155 8 місяців тому
Yes, was noticing no gloves. Even in the HVAC field, minor frostbite is common without gloves.
@RT-qd8yl
@RT-qd8yl 8 місяців тому
@@todd8155 In HVACR we don't wear gloves with refrigerants specifically because the tips of the gloves soak up the refrigerant before it all boils off. It can actually make things worse. If you know what you're doing and don't have your head up your ass there shouldn't be a situation where your fingertips are coming into contact with refrigerant in the first place, outside of a fraction of a second when you're disconnecting your gauges. I tried wearing gloves when I first started, that stopped on my 3rd call. 20 years later it's smooth sailing and properly callused fingertips.
@todd8155
@todd8155 8 місяців тому
@@RT-qd8yl - Thanks for the info!
@overbuiltautomotive1299
@overbuiltautomotive1299 8 місяців тому
thanks for posting this A++@@RT-qd8yl
@AngDavies
@AngDavies Рік тому
At a guess, motors often have lower torque starting up than when running, the compressor got to a high enough pressure that while it could still run, the load was too high for the motor to be able to start again, it stalled and instantly burned out.
@graealex
@graealex Рік тому
Compressors actually release pressure when stopping, so that when they start the next cycle, the starting torque doesn't have to fight the pressure inside.
@jonathonhaberkorn233
@jonathonhaberkorn233 Рік тому
Electric motors produce the most torque when the rotor is stalled. Depending on the type of motor the torque will drop off as the speed rises. The piece is called a “unloader valve” and releases the compression in the cylinder when the motor cycles off.
@fascistpedant758
@fascistpedant758 Рік тому
Even if the motor was locked it wouldn't instantly burn out. It would draw 2-3 times it's rated current but still take a while to burn out.
@AngDavies
@AngDavies Рік тому
@@jonathonhaberkorn233 true of some types of motor, but not all: induction motors which are quite common tend to have this weird humped torque speed curve, where the torque grows to a peak and then shrinks again
@jonathonhaberkorn233
@jonathonhaberkorn233 Рік тому
@@fascistpedant758 it’s not burned up. It’s a pressure lock. Refrigerant systems don’t use an unloader valve. They have what is called a “compressor delay” if you have ever programmed a thermostat this is the variable that allows the pressure on the high and low side to equalize before starting the pump. These compressors are very high efficiency and rely heavily on the inertia in the rotating mass to achieve the high pressures that are needed. Chances are he could have let the pressure out and it would have started right up.
@en2oh
@en2oh Рік тому
I was fearing another silly video with no redeemable science - but instead got physical chemistry and a wealth of information about bodged together pressure fittings! Now, all you needed to do was add some salt to the ice to further lower the temperature below 0C and you would have made my day! Thanks for sharing this! (btw, I'm a p chemist by training - very well done!)
@nathank4708
@nathank4708 Рік тому
Nice to see your funny commentary. I was a ammonia operator we used ammonia as a refrigerant making lco2 and dry ice. Our main compressor was 1,750 hp. At 220 psi. The lco2 got down to -21 f before going out to our tanks. 5 tanks at 220 tons each. Btw only fill refrig. Tanks 80% max.
@petercoutu4726
@petercoutu4726 Рік тому
I would recommend Adding a ball valve after the needle valve that you already have in place so that you can set the flow rate and open and close the outlet as necessary. It may also be beneficial to try an atomizer Nozzle similar to what is used in heating oil furnaces.
@MCPicoli
@MCPicoli Рік тому
You could add salt to the ice bath to lower the temperature even more and make your poor compressor happier (or at least not that unhappy!) by not having to reach a pressure as high.
@frontiervirtcharter
@frontiervirtcharter Рік тому
Might even be able to liquefy oxygen if you do a 2-stage using the dry ice with an acetone bath to cool the second stage
@perpetualjon
@perpetualjon 11 місяців тому
Utterliy fascinating project! Thank you for going through all that and sharing this with the world!
@RioSul50
@RioSul50 8 місяців тому
I have a 20 lb CO2 cylinder for making soda water. It is not expensive to refill so that would be an option for CO2. Back in the 1980's I worked for Liquid Carbonic and we took CO2 from a fertilizer plant (waste CO2 from the manufacture of nitrogen based fertilizer) and processed it then filled railcars and trucks with the CO2. The plant had sold dry ice also (but by the time I started working for them they had stopped making and selling dry ice). The industrial equipment for dry ice was still there and we could still make some.
@robinnegus6499
@robinnegus6499 Рік тому
you’re level of ingenuity is inspiring!! definitely got yourself a new subscriber!🤘🏽
@AndreaDingbatt
@AndreaDingbatt Рік тому
Awesome Upload!! Thank you very Much!!
@mylittleparody2277
@mylittleparody2277 Рік тому
Humor, knowledge, and safety, perfect! You, sir, deserve an internet. Thank you
@Adam_The_Archivist
@Adam_The_Archivist 9 місяців тому
Really enjoyed the video!! Thank you for putting this all together!👍
@s6e67tysd
@s6e67tysd Рік тому
Something I was wondering in your last cyrocooler video, it did seem to be getting stuck at around dry ice temperatures. Given you were continuously taking in fresh air (and having to dehydrate it), perhaps you were getting CO2 freezing up inside of your system? At any rate, if you 'recycle' the exhaust, you wouldn't have to do as much drying. But, same goes for closed loop hydrogen, etc. If you do go the cascade refrigeration way, take a look at making some "R469" - its just a mix of CO2 and R410a (easily recovered from dehumidifiers, etc). Much easier to get than ethane or ethylene, but won't freeze at -55C (triple point at 5Bar) like pure CO2 would. I'd probably add some propane to the mix too for oil solubility goodness. (or better, "MAPP Gas", which is just propylene, boils 10c colder). Also, add a heat exchanger, warming up the suction line to the compressor, using the 'heat' left in the refrigerant after the condenser. Bit of warmth makes for more oily oil, and makes sure all the bits of the blend have boiled off. If you haven't played much with diy compression systems before, /other than running stupid high pressures which will cook the motor/ (or, near zero flow, depriving it of cooling) they're a lot more forgiving/harder to fuck up than various tradespeople on forums/youtube/anywhere will go on about - in terms of captube sizing, "fuck it, whats there might work" often does. BBQ tank propane+butane+stinkgas bastard mix will work in just about any system. There is roughly nothing in this world which needs to be brazed, (cheap-ish, "silver bearing", plumbing solder 100%. Cheap, by-the-litre-from-pharmacies "fatty cream" moisturizer+zinc oxide+Hcl= plumbing solder flux), and no brazing means no nitrogen purging (I use CO2 sometimes) - though I flush any flux, etc out of a system with ethanol first. Nothing needs to be vacuumed for more than 30 minutes, if it does, its leaking. (Oh, and try not to vent ODP/high-GWP refrigerants like the "professionals" do. Its so easy to recover them into old gas torch bottles for playing with later)
@Dave62530
@Dave62530 Рік тому
I have a bar and we used large CO2 bottles for our keg system. The large cylinders are called 50lb CO2 cylinders and cost about $50 bucks to fill up. You can have them filled at a fire extinguisher dealer cheap. Most dealers can also recertify a tank of any variety. Should be able to find some cheap cylinders. For CO2 our tanks stay around 800 psi
@ddegn
@ddegn Рік тому
Is the CO2 used to refill fire extinguishers "food grade"? Do you have to worry about impurities when using fire extinguisher CO2 with beverages? I wonder if the CO2 used with paintball guns is food safe? I've been meaning to get some small CO2 tanks for pneumatic projects. I'm pretty sure CO2 provides much more working gas than pressurized air in a comparably sized of container.
@Centar1964
@Centar1964 Рік тому
@@ddegn Seltzer bottles use common CO2 carts like airguns use. I've never seen anything about having to use "food grade" CO2 in them.
@ddegn
@ddegn Рік тому
@@Centar1964 Good to know. Thanks.
@ruben_balea
@ruben_balea Рік тому
@@Centar1964 That's "food grade" CO2 because it's just clean CO2, I don't know if the CO2 used in fire extinguishers is suitable for food use or not. But CO2 cylinders used for welding have some oil from the compressors, at least some of them.
@Jazz-ji9zu
@Jazz-ji9zu Рік тому
Thanks for this video. Not only did I learn a simple way to make dry ice, but also a way to store wood gas.
@t.mendoza1396
@t.mendoza1396 Рік тому
That was incredibly interesting and really fun to watch. One of the most informative and entertaining videos I've ever seen.
@PaulMetzler-gu6ew
@PaulMetzler-gu6ew Рік тому
Refrigerator compressors need to have the oil coming back in the return pipe. This lubricates the motor, cools the winding and provides the wet bath to seal the piston in the cylinder bore. Maybe drip some compressor oil into the intake? It will mean that the output from the compressor will be expelling an oil mist, which your set up will probably need to deal with. This video is good stuff!
@theradioweyr
@theradioweyr 8 місяців тому
Actually most of the oil does not dissolve in the refrigerant, with stationary home style compressors the oil usually stays in the compressor (unless it gets hot like in this circumstances). You really don't want the oil to get into the gasses being compressed, so, hmmm, using a little compressor like this one would need to fine a way to cool the oil. In automotive uses the lubricant, at least with R12(mineral), r134/R152a (PAG, etc.) the oil is soluble and flows with the refrigerant through the whole cycle.
@DiegoSpinola
@DiegoSpinola Рік тому
Great video, I've been wanting to do a co2 generator for a while "sodastream from scratch" type of thing, definitely going to steal some ideas from you 😉👍
@al_vin007
@al_vin007 7 місяців тому
Such a fantastic learning video. Thank you🎉 Cheers🥂
@tymz-r-achangin
@tymz-r-achangin Рік тому
Definitely interesting! Thank you for all of that time, work, and effort to make the video
@killallfornothing
@killallfornothing Рік тому
You will always burn compressor without starting device what is sitting on connector to steel egg that compressor sitting in. compressor have double winding... one for working and one for starting. This starting winding gettin power thru thermistor in starting device only for few seconds, because thermistor getting hot and resistance rise rapidly. Normally spark and boom comming from thermistor and many times You just have to change it to keep compressor starting again.... You can even use crued methood and use momentary switch to energize starting winding. Best regards.
@StellaFoxxie
@StellaFoxxie Рік тому
i love how you've essentially made a homemade co2 fire extinguisher. i bet you could refill empty ones in the same way 😄 (yes i know that's a horrible idea for many reasons)
@DUKE_of_RAMBLE
@DUKE_of_RAMBLE Рік тому
As someone who *_doesn't_* know why that would be a bad idea... I'm certainly open to hearing why that would be. ☺️
@StellaFoxxie
@StellaFoxxie Рік тому
@@DUKE_of_RAMBLE i guess its not that doing it is inherently unsafe (you can basically do it as safely as the video) but the danger lies in actually using it as a primary fire safety device. because (as far as i know) fire extinguishers are extremely regulated devices intended to be refilled exclusively by a certified service company as to insure the upmost reliability, as a faulty fire extinguisher can really make a bad situation MUCH worse its kinda like building your own parachute for skydiving. can you do it? probably. should you do it? probably not
@kleetus92
@kleetus92 Рік тому
@@StellaFoxxie Actually, most people who skydive DO pack their own chutes... And if you've ever met any of the people who service fire extinguishers, you'd know this guy has his shit together way better...
@StellaFoxxie
@StellaFoxxie Рік тому
@@kleetus92 i meant like sewing your own parachute, out of like bedsheets. and of course you can refill a fire extinguisher easily, that's the whole point of the first comment. why are you so hostile?
@kleetus92
@kleetus92 Рік тому
@@StellaFoxxie Who's hostile? I'm just saying this guy not only has all his ducks in the same pond, they're also in a row!
@sigmalife9625
@sigmalife9625 7 місяців тому
Awesome.tysm for sharing
@benjaminriedmuller8085
@benjaminriedmuller8085 10 місяців тому
Brilliant video. I love how you implement the science with minimal equipment and look for creative rather then expensive solutions :D
@bottlekruiser
@bottlekruiser Рік тому
"with a little bit of force, a standard barbed fitting can be pushed into the inflation valve of the beach ball, and now we've got our gas bag" gets me every time
@newmonengineering
@newmonengineering Рік тому
Very cool, I have seen the sock thing done before. This is a lot of work and equipment to pull off. I think it's easier to buy co2 in a cylinder from a welding supply store , cheaper also. But fun video keep up the great content
@mouserr
@mouserr Рік тому
the cheapest way to source co2 is to pick up a siphon tube co2 bottle as used for soda fountains, they can be picked up for under $50 and refilled for far cheaper than a larger co2 bottle
@ianbottom7396
@ianbottom7396 Рік тому
Domestic refrigeration compressor’s need off cycle pressure equalisation to start, they can’t start against differential pressure, simple refrigerant metering devices such as the capillary tube that they generally use do this provided there’s enough off time. Normally the Klixon provides some protection in the event of a short cycle restart
@sypoth
@sypoth Рік тому
Just found you and I gotta say I'm already loving this. You are like Cody's Lab but more concise. As for your cryo cooler, perhaps if you used another means of cooling it, like a salt bath as salt tends to have a cooling effect on water. The big brained move though would be to figure out how to use the cryo cooler to cool itself down. But I doubt that will work very well without a closed looped system that will work against what you intend to use it for.
@FyaaahS
@FyaaahS Рік тому
With no load and not all ferric parts in place resistance will be very low in the windings and will thereby very easily be heated up if used incorrectly. Very nice video! I've been working with dry ice production for a few years. Nice to see some hobby production!
@netman69
@netman69 Рік тому
I think even if the motor was still okay powering the windings without the rotor like that can set it on fire, because if there is no ferrous something for them to magnetize their inductance is way lower.
@EdwardTriesToScience
@EdwardTriesToScience Рік тому
really interesting and ive been wanting to see someone do this method, also a little note: i suggest you get some borosilicate beakers, blowtorching that isopropyl in the glass had me a little bit scared as common soda lime glass tends to shatter on heating and ive done that far too many times
@jaaps772
@jaaps772 Рік тому
A very exciting and comprehensive example.
@paulweston8184
@paulweston8184 Рік тому
There's more cool science info packed into ithis sixteen minute video than probably the last 10 or so other videos I've watched combined. Thanks for the subscription.
@EvocativeKitsune
@EvocativeKitsune Рік тому
This is bonkers! Subscribed.
@JuulCPH
@JuulCPH Рік тому
Very nice. What types of fittings would be appropriate for those pressures if one was concerned about safety?
@HyperspacePirate
@HyperspacePirate Рік тому
A proper adapter for the paintball tank fitting would be fine. I just jury-rigged mine by drilling/tapping
@Z-Ack
@Z-Ack Рік тому
Hydraulic. Hvac refrigerant lines are usually rated at 10k or 8k psi but brass fittings “shouldnt” explode. But its not like those 10$ home depot fittings are stress tested to pressures that high when theyre sold as water fittings.. ive gotten brass fittings new out of box with hairline cracks and at those pressures a defect in the casting will blow apart a fitting with enough force to embed pieces in your meaty parts.. plus a hose burst or sudden purge of 1000 psi will also easily rupture an ear drum.. not from the pressure differential of the room but the sound that shit makes is crazy loud.. i had a 450psi pop off valve go on me once and had it on recording. What the camera picked up was just psssd. But what i heard was a bbrrrrrrr.. thought that was wild..
@d3m0n54in7
@d3m0n54in7 Рік тому
When considering which fittings to buy, you're quickly going to realize that the ones you NEED are pretty expensive. If you can cross reference them from Chart Industries to their supplier, you'll be fine. I maintained the equipment at an Industrial and medical gas distributor and there's so much that can kill you in a project like this that while fun and cool, it's like playing with dynamite. Safe until it's not.
@rabitrees9709
@rabitrees9709 Рік тому
English brass/copper ,yorkshire fittings WITH OLIVE RINGS . YOU CAN G#ET FROM PLUMBERS MERCHANT S in U,k.
@jonphebus6720
@jonphebus6720 Рік тому
Great channel! I am your newest subscriber. Great presentation! Awesome demonstration, excellent pacing, digestible graphics...and O THANK YOU for using your human voice!! On THAT note, consummate job with the audio! Your voice over is so easy to listen to and the music is perfect choice and so expertly tempered against the V.O. throughout!
@melissamackay9003
@melissamackay9003 Рік тому
Thank you. You answered like 3 questions ive been asking my self for years.
@Embassy_of_Jupiter
@Embassy_of_Jupiter Рік тому
Every time I watch a chemistry video, I feel like I'm acquiring forbidden knowledge, thus becoming more powerful
@my_flippin_journey
@my_flippin_journey Рік тому
*In a sense u r .. which should make u question many things*
@andrewevenson2657
@andrewevenson2657 Рік тому
Your crusty sock collection joke just earned you a like lol
@numberoneappgames
@numberoneappgames Місяць тому
I loved that the step-by-step process was easy to follow. I think a couple more iterations and you'd make as much as you want.
@RobDucharme
@RobDucharme Рік тому
11:37 When I worked at a steel mill, I worked in the lab. We had to make dry ice for a specific destructive test on prepared steel samples. What we had was a big cylindre (like an oxy-acetylene setup) and what looked like a fire extinguisher nozzle at the end of the hose. We had a one gallon pail that we'd blast it into, and it built up very quickly as it had no place to go. So you're getting the expansion as it enters the fire extinguisher nozzle but it's crashing into the bucket and unable to escape.
@alro2434
@alro2434 8 місяців тому
Place I bought from didn't use a megaphone shape as output, just a straight metal tube about 5-6 in in diameter & 12 in long. Aimed into Styrofoam cooler it made 4 pounds in about 20-30 seconds with a lotta noise and sure seemed like a waste of gas to me. Take a looksee at those big CO2 tanks outside of bars& restaurants, they have a quick-connect coupling on them, and have a nighttime visit!
@russellzauner
@russellzauner Рік тому
Have you played with vortex tubes? They're pretty neat. They separate the hot and cold air molecules and at their respective exits can boil or freeze water by using only compressed air at common pressures (I ran them off the regular pneumatic/air taps at work).
@willyouwright
@willyouwright Рік тому
Cool, any videos of that?
@kasuraga
@kasuraga Рік тому
@@willyouwright actually yes! Linus Tech Tips has a video where they tried to cool a computer. The video title is "This is a CPU Cooler?"
@ransombot
@ransombot Рік тому
ukposts.info/have/v-deo/gJ5pnHqQa5in0X0.html Here's one on machining one.
@snapo1750
@snapo1750 Рік тому
You could have added a lot of salt to the ice bath to drop the temperature below 0 .... wonder how much that would help you keep the pressure more down...
@gerlandkent6377
@gerlandkent6377 6 місяців тому
thank, you for you're video. this, works great and last a long time.👍
@pick_pick_pick
@pick_pick_pick 3 місяці тому
one of the best videos out there, thanks for sharing
@Top-Code
@Top-Code Рік тому
Now this is, some cool shit
@MrRolnicek
@MrRolnicek Рік тому
Hmm ... at what pressure does your baking soda+acid reaction still produce CO2? It's not going to easily stop just because there's already a high pressure of CO2 around, right? Could you sidestep a big portion of this process by directly making the CO2 in a pressurized system? Instead of running the chemical reaction at 1 atmosphere and then pressurizing, just letting the reaction itself make your pressure. Maybe it's more hassle than worth but it would be cool.
@notabagel
@notabagel Рік тому
you would find the equilibrium point of partial pressure for this reaction
@ddegn
@ddegn Рік тому
I was not able to find how much pressure this reaction could produce but I think it's pretty high. I did find examples of using baking soda and acid to launch rockets made from 2L pop bottles. I think your idea is worth investigating (as long as I don't have to do the work).
@MrRolnicek
@MrRolnicek Рік тому
@@ddegn Chemical reactions like this (just by looking happening instantly) tend to be able to push a lot of pressure. Dangerously high ammount in fact which is why I would personally never "investigate" this idea as you say. But for those who know how to be safe about these things...
@SimplyMagic123
@SimplyMagic123 3 місяці тому
This is an awesome video man, definitely falling down this rabbit hole and very informative!
@KallePihlajasaari
@KallePihlajasaari Рік тому
In the past I have modified a surplus SodaStream system to make dry ice. The yields are low as most is lost as gas in the cooling process. Simply removing the valve gear from the carbonator and reforming (heat gun and taper)) the PLASTIC injector tube into an expanding cone is pretty effective.. My cone was about 4cm long and 1cm at the outlet but a slightly larger/longer one might have offered better conversion. The idea is to have a controlled expansion while trapping the cooling effect to maximise the formation of snow. Chilling the cylinder will also help as it reduces the pressure and removes some heat. The choice of bag is important. I found a SATIN drawstring bag worked the best. The snow does not stick to the weave and the gas passes through well. The bag might have been included with a pair of sun glasses judging from the size. After venting for a while and capturing a bunch of snow I immediately shake and smack the bag on the floor to consolidate the snow, I then manually crush it wearing a leather welding glove to have a yield of about the size of an AA cell that is compact and durable. I think I could get 3 full shots from a bottle of gas that costs under EUR10 to refill these days. Since moving to Finland I have located a supplier of Dry-ice who charges EUR15 for a block the size of a traditional clay brick. They produce rice from a massive storage tank daily for dry-ice blasting customers and use a simple hydraulic press to prepare blocks on demand for customers. Years ago in South Africa there was an enterprising fellow who set up shop next to a Liquid Air plant and obviously got a good deal on their surplus CO2 piped across through the fence. He formed the snow into a chamber and them compressed the snow into a block with the one rig. The other rig had a continuous snow maker with a screw fed extruder that made 3mm noodles that broke apart into rice. One could go and collect what was needed in a expanded styrofoam box for relatively little if my memory serves me. I am hoping that there will be one positive outcome of the covid scandal and that is a surplus of low temperature freezers in a few years. There was a South African sold out to American investors who developed a handy dandy low temperature freezer. It was a very well insulated cabinet with a single small cryo-cooler at the TOP and a gravity fed thermo-syphon (poor man's heat pipe) that delivered a condensed liquid in a meandering path to the bottom of the freezer that gave opportunity for evaporation all along the way with the vapour returning to the cooler at the top. These freezers will be overpriced novelties but their value should drop a lot when people no longer have a need to chill toxic shots.
@KallePihlajasaari
@KallePihlajasaari Рік тому
I think this was the commercialised version of the sterling freezer. watch?v=HQ5d_KwGwfg
@Impossible_Fishy
@Impossible_Fishy Рік тому
This guys like I did a thing and Nile red at the same time
@robomaster1000
@robomaster1000 Рік тому
Actually backed away from screen as gauge approached 800psi
@AB1Vampire
@AB1Vampire Рік тому
Wow! The compressor collection beachball storage setup was simple genius.
@cookingforone6359
@cookingforone6359 Рік тому
Have you seen commercial dry ice production? They expand the liquid into a large chamber which makes CO2 snow, then compress the snow into large blocks that are then cut into smaller blocks with a band saw. You can make the snow just need a way to gather it and then compress it into the final form. Your video is great, thank you.
@w04h
@w04h Рік тому
13:16 Making it the newest addition to my crusty sock collection 😂😂😂
@canonicaltom
@canonicaltom Рік тому
Had to look that one up, definitely shouldn't have 🤦
@WhenDoesTheVideoActuallyStart
@WhenDoesTheVideoActuallyStart Рік тому
You can easily convince me to wear a mask, but no shot that I'm carrying around a CO2 tank. Or a fucking beach ball.
@gruboniell4189
@gruboniell4189 8 місяців тому
I love this stuff. The utility of everything around u makes then best alchemist
@charliepearce8767
@charliepearce8767 10 місяців тому
I worked in air-conditioning and refrigeration and enjoyed this video.
@singincowboy
@singincowboy Рік тому
I work in the natural gas industry, both in highly compressed (5kpsi) and liquid(cryo) forms. Either way, I would encourage you to purchase stainless or high carbon steel fittings for experiments like this. HCS is cheaper, and less prone to galling, and since you aren't working outside on equipment meant to last years, you'd probably be ok. Swagelok and Parker have pretty good distribution in the US
@hkr321hkr
@hkr321hkr Рік тому
I figured out how you figured this out .. the dog 🐕... The brains of the operation... Dude your amazing! Thanks for the video!
@spaz1879
@spaz1879 Рік тому
Hyperspace Pirate you have some pretty cool videos! I think if you made a small scale co2 extractor for collection oils would be right on part with some of your past videos. would really love to see how you would accomplish building such a device. keep up the great work!
@tedfeats1719
@tedfeats1719 8 місяців тому
Excellent presentation. Subscribed.
@lii1Il
@lii1Il Рік тому
I'm impressed 👍! Ty
@warrenfloyd1484
@warrenfloyd1484 Рік тому
Love the attention to detal,just awesome, great job!!😎👍
@KY-ym1gq
@KY-ym1gq 8 місяців тому
This is AWESOME
@michaelbetsch9700
@michaelbetsch9700 3 місяці тому
This is how a lot of my experiments go ! At first everything just fine going good and then all of a sudden my hi quality equipment pops and starts to smoke ; i can dig it
@ernestoterrazas3480
@ernestoterrazas3480 Рік тому
Beautiful , Interesting and very well explained, congratulations and thank you for shearing your knowledge
@MrHichammohsen1
@MrHichammohsen1 Рік тому
This is pure genius!
@electricharmonyac7354
@electricharmonyac7354 Рік тому
I've seen a number of diy high-pressure systems running two refrigerator pumps run in series. Usually with some kind of current limiting circuit before the pumps.
@jasonlowery1369
@jasonlowery1369 Рік тому
Very interesting thanks. Watching the CO2 powder just disappear was sublime.
@bonzaifpv3015
@bonzaifpv3015 11 місяців тому
Awesome food for thought. I love the humor as well. Thank you
@DJAltheas
@DJAltheas Рік тому
Absolutely howled at the "crusty sock collection"... oh, and wicked video BTW. Thank you for your time and effort!
@kendo2377
@kendo2377 Рік тому
Fascinating!
@BangkokBubonaglia
@BangkokBubonaglia Рік тому
I never laughed so hard on one of these howto videos. Love your sense of humor. Keep it up.
@Dis-Emboweled
@Dis-Emboweled Рік тому
This video was literally the coolest thing I've seen this week
@tcmtech7515
@tcmtech7515 Рік тому
If you need to make more pressure with those hermetically sealed refrigeration compressors just stack two or three end-to-end in series. They typically have a safe working pressure rating of 275 - 350 PSI. The exact rating is usually stamped into the case someplace) based on a 4:1 minimum burst pressure.
@freehat2722
@freehat2722 Рік тому
This is how to make a UKposts video. In the 1st minute everything was explained. Then it was explained again in great detail but in an interesting and entertaining way.
@beesod6412
@beesod6412 Рік тому
Eat your heart out Mr. Wizard! This is great! well done HP!
@dogeenjoyer7581
@dogeenjoyer7581 Рік тому
Thank you Pirate, very cool
@jeffreystroman2811
@jeffreystroman2811 Рік тому
You are my new hero, the start relay most likely needs to be oriented a certain way as the time constant is overcoming gravity and space it has to travel. By starting it under high pressure the current needed to activate said start relay wasn't achieved. These things are smoke operated doncha know, if we let the smoke out they don't work anymore
@electroshop9700
@electroshop9700 Місяць тому
I appreciate your work. in the last stage of manufacturing dry ice, I see that the production of dry ice wastes a lot of co2 (gas state) I think that we can take advantage of the wasted co2 and recycle it to reproduce dry ice for example (make a circuit waste gas towards the big bottle)
@nicoleibundgut534
@nicoleibundgut534 6 місяців тому
I can see some usecases of sprayable dryice. very nice.
@darrenfraser2149
@darrenfraser2149 Рік тому
Very cool. Thanks
@GoingtoHecq
@GoingtoHecq 3 місяці тому
Dry ice socks are one of nature's greatest innuendos. The CO2 into water sounded like it would work well for sound effects.
@overnightOCD
@overnightOCD 11 місяців тому
that was cool . thanks for sharing
@SuperWhizy
@SuperWhizy 6 місяців тому
Unorthodox. Cavalier. But literally cool and awesome! Thanks for sharing.
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