Chris Krueger - this isn’t progression for art it is regression - it’s lost all its beauty it once had

High Price art =\= beauty

@@danie7kovacs It doesn't actually show anything though does it. If you want to see a black screen just turn your monitor or phone off.

wait. holy shit

He created the future

Shivangi Sundar I don’t know how much you know about Cubism but you need a basic understanding of it to understand ‘Black Square’. The Cubists (essentially Picasso and Braque) had a direct influence on several very important movements and their ideas had a huge impact on Malevich and the Russians. Simple put: The Cubists thought very hard about the way in which the mind’s eye represents objects, and by playing around with established components of our visual language such as perspective they began to deconstruct those objects and reassemble them in increasingly abstract forms. In retrospect total abstraction (‘Black Square’) was the logical conclusion of taking this process to the extreme.

They couldn’t paint properly so just drew black squares because they were lazy and knew some philistine would try and explain it as profound or bold

High Price I don’t advise you to look at Malevich’s other paintings :)

Shivangi Sundar Look at Malevich’s artworks from his early neo-primitivist to the paramount of ‘point zero’ which is the white on white to his later works which are impressionistic again. It will make sense. Without background it is just a black square.

Malevich's other paintings are actual paintings. Once we get over the hump to realizing that paintings exist in context, we've admitted that painting isn't just about painting, and we leave the Aristotelian world.

Which started the entire Suprematism movement. That square did a lot of good.

Русские!

you better read his writings regarding his views on artistic theory, and its development in 10s in russian empire. This comment is nothing but the reality. Malevich was influencial, fervent about his ideas, and gamechanging for the way visual mediums work. His influence on bauhaus(as well as Kondiskiy's ifluence), his friendship with Tatlin, his friendship then rivaly with Rodchenko---shaped the visual code we have now, from web pages to elite furniture.

Be the first to think of it...that is the key. Your black square, or my black square is nothing, his is something.

Harry Allington-Wood - it is junk, there’s no skill involved. What is so interesting is that his other works are interesting - but this is just worthless

so art's value comes from skill?

High Price Yeah, you are probably the kind of guy who calls the drawings on McMeal art and leaves a comment under every modern art realted video on UKposts.

High Price Art is not craft. Craft is not art. The point is not the skill involved.

And a swastika is *just* some black lines.

Malevich's name absolutely deserves to be said in the same light as those other artists. Besides his other paintings, the Black Square is highly influential in the development of Suprematism for good reason. According from the artist himself, "I transformed myself in the zero of form and emerged from nothing to creation, that is, to Suprematism, to the new realism in painting - to non-objective creation." Another forgotten great is El Lissitzky. He singly-handedly built the Constructivist movement and his 1919 poster "Beat the Whites with the Red Wedge" is my single most favorite piece of art ever.

@@jakekaywell5972 Notice how you have not described the actual work (Not that you could it is a black square!). You had to read about all that to find out what it was about. Anyone can make up some surreal experience nonsense and sell it to the gullable. The masters I mentioned require no wish wash explanation, the paintings are masterpieces for even the lay person to see and admire. Work that cannot be reproduced by just anyone. The black square could be reproduced by a 5 year old.

@@andrewwills6947 That's a rather superficial viewpoint. Art should not be able to be enjoyed by just the lay person with no background knowledge, with every detail being immediately obvious. In order to fully appreciate any piece of art, the background is necessary. The Black Square is simply art taken to its most logical end, with innumberable interpretations being made from it. Back to zero. The void to which we will all eventually return to. The reason why Malevitch's Black Square is highly regarded is because he was the first to do it as art with the contexts it has. Context is the most important part of any piece of art after all.

@@jakekaywell5972 Is a void square? What context does art have? People have been drawing squares and other shapes since the beginning of our species, why is their work not celebrated...because they are not connected to the rich who drive the art industry. All you need is someone high up to say "oh that lightbulb hanging in a room is amazing" and make up some nonsense and those like you will agree. On its own people would not think it is special because it isn't. A masters work requires no explanation or art critic to make up some deep meaningful waffle to be appreciated, the painting does that for you.

@@andrewwills6947 I disagree, but continuing this conversation is clearly useless. Goodbye.

another critic that will tell you what art is, and what to do instead, yet is unsuccessful in their own right. *The black square has you fooled.* ironic.

That was a poor attempt in his defense. "Explain, educate, & eradicate the unworthy" is not stating "It's meaningless and it isn't art." "Alexander Calder, Chopin, Shakira, Tom Waits; all criticized, all successful." Yes, that's why I said another. I enjoy them. The pretentious are entertaining.

Got you going though.

It's really not all that important...

@@fakename1253 credibility is all that important, sweetie ... if you're going to speak about an artist with authority, make the effort to find out how his name was pronounced, otherwise you might as well just post your 'deep thoughts' on tiktok

Jesus you really hate women don't ya?

@@guibeck8259 No, why do you ask? ... and please don't call me Jesus, however godlike you might find me