Mark Menzies: is UK politics full of scandal?

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This week on The Political Fourcast, another scandal hits the Tories - Mark Menzies MP loses the whip as the Conservative Party investigates claims that he misused campaign funds. He allegedly made a late night call to ask for money to pay off "bad people". He disputes the allegations and senior Tory MPs are telling voters not to rush to judgement. With upcoming local elections and a looming general election, the allegations risk damaging the party in government.
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But is today’s story just another example in a long line of MPs from all parties flouting the rules?
Since 2019, there have been at least 10 cases of Conservative MPs that have either been suspended or quit over allegations of misconduct. Similarly, across the same time period, there have been at least four Labour MPs accused of misconduct, along with one from the SNP and one from Plaid Cymru.
This week, we speak to the SNP’s deputy leader in the Commons Mhairi Black, who’s announced she will stand down at the next election. And former Education Secretary Justine Greening, who had the Tory whip withdrawn after opposing Boris Johnson over Brexit in 2019. They talk to us about mistrust in politics, and why this “jaw dropping” scandal could be a “plague” on politics at large, and confirm what voters think of Westminster’s politicians.
Produced by Silvia Maresca, Shaheen Sattar, Rob Thomson, Calum Fraser, Nick Jackson.
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@ryanwilliams989
@ryanwilliams989 9 днів тому
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@TheresaAnderson-kf5xw
@TheresaAnderson-kf5xw 9 днів тому
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@maryHenokNft
@maryHenokNft 9 днів тому
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@hunter-bourke21
@hunter-bourke21 9 днів тому
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@maggysterling33254
@maggysterling33254 9 днів тому
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@maryHenokNft
@maryHenokNft 9 днів тому
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@jonathanfell688
@jonathanfell688 12 днів тому
Private Schoolboys, emotionally stunted, running riot in the dorm. Lord of the Flies stuff they learned very young.
@SassySlater
@SassySlater 12 днів тому
Emotionally stunted or lacking in empathy, intelligence and respect for the general public
@Coelacanth1
@Coelacanth1 12 днів тому
Boarding school syndrome
@howardrisby9621
@howardrisby9621 10 днів тому
​@@SassySlater..... who elect them (let's not forget).
@1gerard47
@1gerard47 10 днів тому
Its called rape.​@Coelacanth1
@standalby6949
@standalby6949 10 днів тому
@@howardrisby9621 all GE’s are rigged
@andrewclimo5709
@andrewclimo5709 12 днів тому
Why have the Tory party kept this from the police? I thought failing to report a crime is a criminal offence.
@geoffhunter7704
@geoffhunter7704 11 днів тому
The plod pick and choose which crimes they want to investigate thats why!!!
@custossecretus5737
@custossecretus5737 10 днів тому
Political police commissioners ensure the police are looking the other way.
@matthewn1805
@matthewn1805 10 днів тому
Why was the police investigation into party-gate so gentle to Tories?
@stephenreeds3632
@stephenreeds3632 9 днів тому
And then that piece of work Holden demands that the police investigate... again...£1500 allegedly not paid by a Labour MP. Backed up by the Mail.
@chickenmadness1732
@chickenmadness1732 8 днів тому
Rules for thee, not for me.
@61barrackroad
@61barrackroad 12 днів тому
Sounds like someone didn't want to pay his dealer. About time MPs were drugs tested I think.
@sararichardson737
@sararichardson737 12 днів тому
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@intervention.07
@intervention.07 12 днів тому
Waste of a drug test. Just get them paying from their own pocket. The problem at the root of it all is this: those that contribute the least to the upkeep and future needs of our nation have the major influence over the important decisions. Until this fundamental injustice is rectified the pain and poverty will continue
@i-am-vonnegut
@i-am-vonnegut 10 днів тому
First up... Gove.
@brianbell3836
@brianbell3836 10 днів тому
And who would enforce that law? The Lapdog Police?
@61barrackroad
@61barrackroad 10 днів тому
@@brianbell3836 should be mandatory
@antistraveling3522
@antistraveling3522 12 днів тому
Now it makes sense why they were going after Angela Rayner days before
@user-vq1fc1zn9m
@user-vq1fc1zn9m 10 днів тому
No Rayners a scum bag and deserves all she gets complete hipercrite laber sum
@davidedwards1227
@davidedwards1227 12 днів тому
And Tories are on about Angela Rayner, typical Tory Gaslighting,
@simanothername3035
@simanothername3035 11 днів тому
Lol you are funny, would you trust her over any of them? I will give you a clue, the political class despise you and discount your vote.
9 днів тому
And you support what’s happening in Gaza. Captain gammon.
@simanothername3035
@simanothername3035 9 днів тому
Am I misunderstanding, or do you feel calling someone Gammon is not racist, and said to dismiss them as less?
@user-qd2pc5gz4n
@user-qd2pc5gz4n 12 днів тому
He said he fell in with a a bad crowd,THE TORY PARTY 😂😂😂
@jsd8981
@jsd8981 10 днів тому
LoL good shout..
@gerrylast
@gerrylast 10 днів тому
Could have been labour party though. They seem not to be squeaky clean either😄. I like to think Blair would have cleaned up a lot while he was in office, he had plenty of time to clean things up but all we seem to seem is a strange suntan that even Trump may be proud of, and many unanswered questions about illegal wars that left many people dead.
@geoffhunter7704
@geoffhunter7704 9 днів тому
"Take Me to My Cocaine Dealer" Mark Menzies cos Taxpayers will cough up involuntarily.
@stephenreeds3632
@stephenreeds3632 9 днів тому
Only £5,000? That's not very much for a ransom, surely?
@stephenreeds3632
@stephenreeds3632 9 днів тому
​@gerrylast But it wasn't so don't fall for the "they're all the same" shtick which the Tories want us to believe.
@Phaedra808
@Phaedra808 12 днів тому
The usual reason the “Bad Men” come at 3 in the morning is that Piggy Malone hasn’t paid for his Charley Farley.
@turk3287
@turk3287 12 днів тому
"Bad Men"= rent boys
@jsd8981
@jsd8981 12 днів тому
Exactly !!!
@Titus9508
@Titus9508 12 днів тому
Spot on. (cool tag, by the way)
@ballyhigh11
@ballyhigh11 12 днів тому
@@turk3287 Nah, = unpaid drug dealer. TBF, they could be one and the same.
@MrMusicbyMartin
@MrMusicbyMartin 12 днів тому
Showing your age with the Two Ronnies reference!
@fricozoid1
@fricozoid1 12 днів тому
Is there a stronger sign of guilt than the phrase "Tory MP strongly denies these allegations"?
@MrMusicbyMartin
@MrMusicbyMartin 12 днів тому
“Tory MP found breathing” is normally evidence enough of guilt.
@IainFrame
@IainFrame 12 днів тому
Just reminds me of that Little Britain character.
@justin6378
@justin6378 12 днів тому
​@@IainFrameor the politician Sir Geoffrey Norman MP from the fast show! 😂
@IainFrame
@IainFrame 12 днів тому
@@justin6378 Ha - both! 🔥
@alanhat5252
@alanhat5252 11 днів тому
...and when they finally get around to doing their jobs Dickens & Orwell step in 😢
@marcblair8713
@marcblair8713 12 днів тому
Do the majority of Conservatives need to go on the register????
@soviet700
@soviet700 12 днів тому
Yes
@TheHookahSmokingCaterpillar
@TheHookahSmokingCaterpillar 12 днів тому
Probably.
@aredub1847
@aredub1847 12 днів тому
they prob are already.
@user-uf9yr6jd3z
@user-uf9yr6jd3z 12 днів тому
Who's he been fiddling with besides the money😂
@joancampbell4130
@joancampbell4130 12 днів тому
They will make it compulsory!!
@wendyknight9574
@wendyknight9574 12 днів тому
Known for… 3 months. They’d be monumentally stupid to be having a pop at Angela Rayner. Except they are utterly desperate.
@fricozoid1
@fricozoid1 12 днів тому
I used to think Tories were competent but evil, but its worse, they're incompetent and evil.
@Titus9508
@Titus9508 12 днів тому
Raynor may have been naive - we've yet to see but it is a ridiculous accusation compared with Hunt and his Luxury flats....
@ballyhigh11
@ballyhigh11 12 днів тому
Twice, very publicly on Sky News and the BBC, Mark Menzies has been asked what his allegations against Angela Ranger are. On both occasions he blustered and obfuscated and ultimately refused to say what they were, falsely claiming he couldn't due to a 'live police investigation'. The real reason is because he knows his allegations are false and he'd be laying himself wide open to a prosecution for slander by Rayner if he was to state them publicly. Something he cannot afford, particularly as he's going to lose his seat in the upcoming general election.
@stevehall6299
@stevehall6299 12 днів тому
​@@Titus9508 ...and all the other massive tax dodgers.
@RyanBrown-nx8dw
@RyanBrown-nx8dw 10 днів тому
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@andrewrobinson2565
@andrewrobinson2565 12 днів тому
The common denominator of all these scandals seems to be private schooling. 😮
@stephfoxwell4620
@stephfoxwell4620 12 днів тому
And Coke
@andrewrobinson2565
@andrewrobinson2565 12 днів тому
​@@stephfoxwell4620Anyone can become a "coke addict" (😂) but education in entitlement is only available at a price ordinary people can't pay. 😊
@graemeross1998
@graemeross1998 12 днів тому
They believe they are untouchable that's what privelage does to you
@johnnyhock
@johnnyhock 12 днів тому
GREED
@andrewrobinson2565
@andrewrobinson2565 12 днів тому
@@stephfoxwell4620 Rishi has admitted on camera to being a "coke addict" (the drink I think) but "education on entitlement" is only on the curriculum at a price that ordinary people cannot pay (let's see if THIS one passes moderation) 🤔.
@dub604
@dub604 12 днів тому
There's only one reason someone would call at that time of night asking for money and it's almost certainly south American in origin. Another Tory MP with a taste for the devil's dandruff, nothing if not predictable.
@nickd.6365
@nickd.6365 12 днів тому
Obviously a crackhead.
@obijon7441
@obijon7441 12 днів тому
I heard the male prostitute was Brazilian, allegedly. Not sure about the marching powder.
@dwdei8815
@dwdei8815 12 днів тому
Why else be an "unpaid trade advisor" (yes that's what he was) to Colombia (& Peru, Chile, Argentina)?
@hughzapretti-boyden9187
@hughzapretti-boyden9187 12 днів тому
@@dwdei8815 we're talking Bolivia! Probably got a connection from Gideon!😳😂
@antsly
@antsly 12 днів тому
No. This is even harder stuff. This is meth psychosis. Meth is almost unheard of in the UK outside of the gay community, but it is destroying gay communities in major cities like London and Manchester.
@sharonramsey715
@sharonramsey715 12 днів тому
Love Love Mhaire Black, now that will be a loss. She just tells it like it is, no gobbledegook just plain talking.
@billpugh58
@billpugh58 12 днів тому
I agree, she is a fresh voice of honesty and logic in a sea of sewage, but she keeps her integrity and dignity.
9 днів тому
You love a dangerous misogynist thats politics comes from woke teen Americans?
@PLeon-kd1yd
@PLeon-kd1yd 7 днів тому
@@billpugh58 integrity and snp are u for real
@robertfmorton
@robertfmorton 7 днів тому
Totally agree. Mhaire Black is one of the very few mps with commitment, honesty and integrity.
@sharonrobertson4802
@sharonrobertson4802 6 днів тому
Hope she becomes an msp.
@hecter3008
@hecter3008 12 днів тому
What planet are these people on? Take a look at what MPs have done to this country and dont forget their fantastic pensions.
@peterbalchin9077
@peterbalchin9077 12 днів тому
I think they are tremendous, our MP's. What might be questionable - there is no suggestion this is happening - is taking a 40/60ths pension immediately accessible from day one - then increasing it with as much AVC's as you want to make or 3 parties consulting with you might pay you to make.
@hecter3008
@hecter3008 12 днів тому
@@peterbalchin9077 really? This country has been destroyed over the last 14 years. Greening supported every cut to public services the bedroom tax trashing the police and the military. Do you really think these creatures are great? Are you in the UK? I assume the answer is no.
@theRab1609
@theRab1609 11 днів тому
​@@peterbalchin9077love the sarcasm
@spex357
@spex357 8 днів тому
They are implementing Agenda 2030 on behalf of some Billionaires, and our whole system is onboard including Starmer.
@jamesclark6104
@jamesclark6104 12 днів тому
I don't think this story is jaw dropping or bizarre, it's what I've come to expect from Tory MPs.
@binkyboobosh1
@binkyboobosh1 12 днів тому
This rather puts the Rayner non story in perspective. Menzies could do time for this. He exploited vulnerable lady as well as robbing cash....but more serious than that is that the tory party knew about this is January but have only come clean after a newspaper got hold of it...
@davesy6969
@davesy6969 12 днів тому
Integrity, accountability and professionalism. The tories knew about this months ago, yet he didn't lose the whip until it became public knowledge.
@lyndacrosfill6340
@lyndacrosfill6340 8 днів тому
To become a dictator you need corrupt people around you and sunak keeps them close
@jeffmcadam9071
@jeffmcadam9071 12 днів тому
I'm starting to think the Tory selection process is based on a casting couch in a young boys school.
@user-ol6rd7pl5t
@user-ol6rd7pl5t 12 днів тому
Is there anyone left in the UK who hasn't yet woken up to who & what the Tory Party are & what they represent.
@markhilbert6573
@markhilbert6573 12 днів тому
Its not just the torys they are all the same.
@user-ol6rd7pl5t
@user-ol6rd7pl5t 12 днів тому
@@markhilbert6573 All those on the right & far right yes definitely.
@stevehall6299
@stevehall6299 12 днів тому
​@@markhilbert6573 No, *all* politicians are *not* the same.
@billpugh58
@billpugh58 12 днів тому
They are a public school debating club formed to take our money off us.
@simanothername3035
@simanothername3035 11 днів тому
I wonder if there is anyone who remembers when the Labour Party didn't despise the working class? Trust me, none of them represent you.
@pauljones1376
@pauljones1376 12 днів тому
Its laughable how they use Rayner as a distraction
@archiebald4717
@archiebald4717 12 днів тому
She has done that herself.
@stevehall6299
@stevehall6299 12 днів тому
Distractions are all they have left...and *more* scandals to come.
@stevehall6299
@stevehall6299 12 днів тому
Distractions is all they have left...and *more* scandals.
@pauljones1376
@pauljones1376 12 днів тому
She's done nothing lol... Bozo gave tax payers money to his squeeze £100 k it's a joke how the working class hate Labour and Rayner... Irony a working class girl dies good and the gammon hate her
@archiebald4717
@archiebald4717 12 днів тому
@@stevehall6299 Of course Labour has some form. Keith Vaz, Dawn Butler, Fiona Onasanya, Claudia Webbe, to mention just a few.
@robertwilson4809
@robertwilson4809 12 днів тому
Will there be a forensic tent in his garden like Nicola sturgeon? I very much doubt it.
9 днів тому
When nippy is in jail will she be sharing a cell with her pal in the wig a leggings she tried to get put in a female prison?
@erictaylor2831
@erictaylor2831 8 днів тому
And when was she charged with anything 😮
@PLeon-kd1yd
@PLeon-kd1yd 7 днів тому
@@erictaylor2831tick tock
@bcitral
@bcitral 12 днів тому
Miss Black, a sad loss to politics. All the best in your future life.
@Ed30675
@Ed30675 12 днів тому
Agreed...
@davidpearn2484
@davidpearn2484 12 днів тому
Yes she was brilliant 👏.
@alexanderfarquharson539
@alexanderfarquharson539 11 днів тому
I hope this was sarcasm
@brianbell3836
@brianbell3836 10 днів тому
@@alexanderfarquharson539 Not at all. She was the one speaker in the HoC who could guarantee a good laugh.
@annenunney9907
@annenunney9907 10 днів тому
@@alexanderfarquharson539no it was not
@georgep4465
@georgep4465 12 днів тому
Have you asked the obvious question: who got the £5k? Why not? Who paid whom? And what about a police investigation? None as usual?
@billpugh58
@billpugh58 12 днів тому
They’re too busy investigating Angela Raynor for err ummm hmmm ahhhh something? Ask Daly he wants her prosecuted! Oh I forgot, he doesn’t know either😂😂😂😂😂😂
@stevenhodgson4227
@stevenhodgson4227 12 днів тому
The tory party is one sick puppy . Always has been.
@kyecypress
@kyecypress 10 днів тому
Both the major parties are.
@custossecretus5737
@custossecretus5737 10 днів тому
Politicians do know what goes on in Westminster, just like BBC staff knew about Saville. Which means the only way to make it in politics, is to turn a blind eye, because if you speak up you become a target. Sick, the swamp needs draining.
@richardh8082
@richardh8082 10 днів тому
@@dlmdee No
@richardh8082
@richardh8082 10 днів тому
@@kyecypress labour not as much. Best we can get atm
@richardh8082
@richardh8082 10 днів тому
Sick puppy? More like Old Yeller!
@lobintool
@lobintool 12 днів тому
If this sort of malarkey was going on elsewhere in another country it would be called out as being a "Banana Republic"!
@Coelacanth1
@Coelacanth1 12 днів тому
If we didn't uphold a monarchy we could very well be called a Banana republic
@cedriclynch
@cedriclynch 9 днів тому
​@@Coelacanth1It is beginning to become possible to grow bananas outdoors in the UK.
@FlannelPrime
@FlannelPrime 12 днів тому
Brilliant conversation. Channel 4 has been leading the way with investigative journalism and now with longer format reasoned discussion.
@beaulieuc8910
@beaulieuc8910 12 днів тому
if someone did that to me at 3am i would call police and do a welfare check on him.
@SuzanneO707
@SuzanneO707 12 днів тому
Parliament is a difficult place for a compassionate, articulate person from a working class background in particular. Interesting discussion. 👍
@coppershark1973
@coppershark1973 12 днів тому
GENERAL ELECTION NOW!!
@fionagregory9147
@fionagregory9147 12 днів тому
What difference would that make?
@wiznaemethistime7095
@wiznaemethistime7095 12 днів тому
why ? what difference will it make.. the entirety of british politics and westminster is a sewer.. you actually want to vote for these rats ?
@Thelma7361
@Thelma7361 12 днів тому
@@fionagregory9147none
@janewright2800
@janewright2800 11 днів тому
Yes please!!!
@standalby6949
@standalby6949 10 днів тому
There all rigged
@craigm6878
@craigm6878 12 днів тому
Typical of Westminster. Typical of the Tories.
@geoffhunter7704
@geoffhunter7704 11 днів тому
all politicians are unsafe to trust they should be whiter than white alas they're NOT.
@Lindsey922
@Lindsey922 12 днів тому
how fast did Sunak move on the Chris Pinscher case ?? he now seems to turn a blind eye to all sorts of hideous goings on! A man of such principle!! Unelected cabinet and overseeing dismal behaviour as they are on the way out of power.
@williamevans9426
@williamevans9426 12 днів тому
Yes, an opinion poll rating of just 19% focuses the mind wonderfully.
@TheresaCoughy
@TheresaCoughy 12 днів тому
That was on johnsons watch. He was RELUCTANTLY sacked. Interestingly sunnaks.respnse to this is attack people who's Dr's gave signed them off work. Disgusting
@simanothername3035
@simanothername3035 11 днів тому
@@williamevans9426 If there is one thing the English could be said to stand for, it is fair play. Sunak doomed the Tories the moment he had his globalist mates do a Hatchet job on Truss (who wasn't smart enough to do the job anyway) you don't get to behave like that and stand a chance of reelection. So we are paying the most tax in 70 years and as usual the public services deteriorate and the next election will see a Labour government and the inevitable tax rises while services deteriorate with a side serving of authoritarian attacks on thought, speech and assembly.
@georgegraham472
@georgegraham472 12 днів тому
oh come on, it's not "public service" that attracts people to politics.
@pauljones1376
@pauljones1376 12 днів тому
The Bullington club ....if you've voted for them you get what you deserve
@rook_wood
@rook_wood 12 днів тому
The Selfservatives know what they're in it for
@Spriggan83
@Spriggan83 12 днів тому
It's the blow!
@CaptainFearless1
@CaptainFearless1 12 днів тому
they rarely ever speak about what's best for the country or indeed the electorate...they are just interested in developing policies that benefit them and their rich mates
@darriendastar3941
@darriendastar3941 12 днів тому
In the Menzies case, it appears that he was more interested in members of the public - especially the Brazilian public - servicing him!
@lucitonstjames3925
@lucitonstjames3925 12 днів тому
Trade envoy to Colombia, you couldnt make this stuff up. With Benton in Blackpool & Menzies in neighbouring Fylde its fair to say the top drawer talent the tory party attracts is second to none.
@steveholmes11
@steveholmes11 12 днів тому
That red wall's going well eh?
@simanothername3035
@simanothername3035 11 днів тому
@@steveholmes11 Just imagine if labour did anything for Scotland except count on their vote. Perhaps the SNP would have remained a fringe party. Just imagine if labour did anything for the red wall except ignore child rape gangs and count on their vote....
@capt.bart.roberts4975
@capt.bart.roberts4975 12 днів тому
Naked in a basement, I thought Tory MPs paid good money for that...but six and half grand, FFFS(to quote a senior Tory)!
@soviet700
@soviet700 12 днів тому
Power does NOT corrupt. The corrupt seek power
@johnnyb1829
@johnnyb1829 12 днів тому
Valid point
@niamcd6604
@niamcd6604 12 днів тому
That's a whole lot of BS.
@remotefaith
@remotefaith 12 днів тому
Why not both?
@billpugh58
@billpugh58 12 днів тому
I hate it when everybody makes sweeping generalizations 😂
@soviet700
@soviet700 11 днів тому
@@niamcd6604well it’s not exactly a lot. Don’t get so triggered. I don’t even remember who said that. Some philosopher. But seriously. Chill. It’s just a quote. No need to get all bent out of shape about it
@andrewrobinson2565
@andrewrobinson2565 12 днів тому
Mhairi Black's departure is a MASSIVE LOSS to British democracy 😢.
@quwipyui6519
@quwipyui6519 12 днів тому
sorry UK are no longer democratic country but dangerous regime exactly the same like Russia China Iran and North Korea and this is facts forever
@marymakem8260
@marymakem8260 12 днів тому
Agree love marie black
@CatholicSatan
@CatholicSatan 12 днів тому
Indeed, I remember her stunning maiden speech. Can't remember any other MP's equivalent.
@martinn6564
@martinn6564 12 днів тому
It is an indictment of the whole system. She will be missed.
@CashelOConnolly
@CashelOConnolly 12 днів тому
She Should have joined us Corbyn supporters ✌🏻🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🇮🇪
@jeanwood6392
@jeanwood6392 12 днів тому
Not a “ Honourable “ one amongst them , all out to get what they can !!
@minui8758
@minui8758 12 днів тому
There’s more than a thousand of them including the lords. The only way all of them are only out for themselves is if we assume the human race itself is intrinsically selfish
@jeanwood6392
@jeanwood6392 12 днів тому
Mini , Let us assume then !
@simanothername3035
@simanothername3035 11 днів тому
Remind me about Anthony Blair and how he amassed a £350M fortune since leaving politics? Never told a lie, or did a deal. Then there was Kinnock and his entire family jumping on the EEC/EU gravy train to uphold his good socialist values. There was a time the left lied and the right stole (except of course when they did both) now it's a case of trying to work out who will sell you out the slowest....
@capt.bart.roberts4975
@capt.bart.roberts4975 12 днів тому
Fairly obviously both The Lords and Commons need root and branch reform.
@user-yg3xf8ze4p
@user-yg3xf8ze4p 12 днів тому
Time to get rid of this laughing stock of tory hypocrites no wonder they get ignored around the World.
@giddy9052
@giddy9052 12 днів тому
The red team are just as swampy as the blue.
@hastekulvaati9681
@hastekulvaati9681 12 днів тому
@@giddy9052Objectively false.
@Geffo555
@Geffo555 12 днів тому
@@giddy9052 Can you name a Labour government that turned out scandals every week? I do get that bad apples are in every party, but the Tory barrel is overflowing. Let's be honest.
@billpugh58
@billpugh58 12 днів тому
@@giddy9052Keep supporting the the utterly corrupt Tories, we don’t care😂
@Lynnefromlyn
@Lynnefromlyn 11 днів тому
@@giddy9052please give evidence for that monumentally stupid remark!
@tt-ew7rx
@tt-ew7rx 12 днів тому
Suspected misappropriation of party funds in the SNP? Police pounces. Supposed irregularities with Rayner (and previously Starmer)? Police pounces. This time accused misappropriation of party funds? The police looks up the party's name and could not be bothered.
@kaizer1903
@kaizer1903 12 днів тому
Exactly!
@kennymorrison7227
@kennymorrison7227 12 днів тому
The SNP should all be arrested for corruption and theft absolutely disgusting party that has ruined Scotland.
@nesanesa9547
@nesanesa9547 12 днів тому
Mandy rice davies.....Christine Keebler. Honey traps for perverted mp.s..who are they going to blame???
@simanothername3035
@simanothername3035 11 днів тому
So explain the Met..... Could it be political policing? I think the nothing to see here response to Rayner defeats the argument. The police were literally shamed into doing their job. That isn't really the point, though she has form for calling for resignations without any proof of wrongdoing. Should she be held to different standards?
@tt-ew7rx
@tt-ew7rx 11 днів тому
@@simanothername3035 Investigating something that has its statuary limitation already past, i.e. zero possibility of prosecution, is a waste of public funds.
@markhilbert6573
@markhilbert6573 12 днів тому
They seem to be genuinely supprised that politics is full of people whos only real interest is to gratify their own greed and perversions. 😂😂😂
@julianshepherd2038
@julianshepherd2038 12 днів тому
I can work out what the Tories have done but the SNP seem to be endlessly investigated but no one gets charged with a crime !
@stevenhunter5799
@stevenhunter5799 12 днів тому
Maybe it's like the Angela Rayner thing. The media making a bigger deal of the smaller stuff to divert attention from what the Tories get up to
@jonnylumberjack6223
@jonnylumberjack6223 12 днів тому
Salmond was charged and found not guilty. Other investigations are ongoing, if there is evidence of criminal behaviour, they will be charged too. If they're not charged, there isn't compelling evidence to take it to court. That's how the legal system works. In fact, Murrell has just been re-arrested. Politicians are all the same, all out for themselves.
@geraldineanneboyd9165
@geraldineanneboyd9165 12 днів тому
Mr Murrel has just been arrested again. Perhaps Police Scotland are approaching a charge sheet
@robertawallace9817
@robertawallace9817 12 днів тому
Not yet but it's coming.
@medorajoe7542
@medorajoe7542 12 днів тому
@@robertawallace9817 what you mean is after more than three years of a ridiculous amount of investigations they will produce some absolutely innocuous at the time of the general election in an attempt to discredit the SNP. As it is, the fair minded Scottish electorate is wise to this nonsense by the British establishment. Only this time they’ve overplayed their hand with the ridiculous blue tents.
@marpop99
@marpop99 12 днів тому
Totally changed my mind about Mhairi Black. She talks so much sense.
@sarkybugger5009
@sarkybugger5009 12 днів тому
She always has. Maybe you weren't listening.
@Ronald-gu3ft
@Ronald-gu3ft 12 днів тому
She promotes drag queen story hour so shes not even bright.
@nevertoolate5325
@nevertoolate5325 12 днів тому
She always did, every word. Has given some of the best speeches in the commons too.
@davebox588
@davebox588 12 днів тому
Where were you FHS? Probably one of the most honest and straight talking MPs Westminster has seen for a good while. Her speeches have repeatedly nailed Tory hypocrisy over and over.
@marpop99
@marpop99 12 днів тому
@@davebox588 Calm down.
@kevinkevin-ug9po
@kevinkevin-ug9po 12 днів тому
The UK system is fkd. It needs a complete rethink. Westminster has too much autonomy and needs taken down. Local devolved communities can handle better what Westminster has failed to do. We need a total change. Conventions are needed urgently.
@greenandpleasant5523
@greenandpleasant5523 12 днів тому
Yes, vote Reform Party!
@jamesmarsh4957
@jamesmarsh4957 12 днів тому
to right we do and not Reform , same people under a different name
@allmodcons2274
@allmodcons2274 12 днів тому
Devolution in this country seems to have meant more opportunities for dodgy deals/ backhanders, with little to no oversight.
@allmodcons2274
@allmodcons2274 12 днів тому
​@@greenandpleasant5523 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@TheOriginalFishPond
@TheOriginalFishPond 12 днів тому
@@greenandpleasant5523 They're just the conservatives but worse.
@james6901
@james6901 12 днів тому
Any one from Eton,,,,in fact any public school barred from standing for MP,,,,,,
@robhenley8408
@robhenley8408 12 днів тому
No one seems to question the deterioration of community in Britain. Closure of youth centres , post offices , banks , public toilets , libraries, and many other entities , all contribute to societal breakdown. Many European countries do everything they can to devolve power to small towns and villages , whose interest is in supporting and improving their local facilities. Not to mention that in most countries it is family first , and job second. The UK is now like the US .....job first and much of this is derived from pure necessity.
@MeiinUK
@MeiinUK 3 дні тому
It's meant to be singapore now but.... The peope doesn't want it.
@indefatigable8193
@indefatigable8193 12 днів тому
Not the politics, darling. Just the Tories.
@SpenceJS87
@SpenceJS87 10 днів тому
This is the goal of the Rayner smear attempt, to create voter apathy about 'all sides are the same', when one side is objectively much worse.
@annenunney9907
@annenunney9907 10 днів тому
The Politics and the Tories
@annenunney9907
@annenunney9907 10 днів тому
The politics and the Tories
@user-sd3ik9rt6d
@user-sd3ik9rt6d 12 днів тому
He was explaining conservative policy to a young Brazilian man when he slipped on a cherry and happened to end up inside him, the £5k was a way of saying thank you, no, sorry, I mean it was a way of saying sorry.
@steveburke1260
@steveburke1260 12 днів тому
Like that little britain skit haha
@julianshepherd2038
@julianshepherd2038 12 днів тому
He had the Columbian trade job _________ _________ _________
@adambrickley1119
@adambrickley1119 12 днів тому
Can't believe a tory mp didnt have 5k. Bizzare.
@williamevans9426
@williamevans9426 12 днів тому
We don't know where he was, though. 'Probably didn't carry quite that amount on his person (unless he has VERY expensive tastes). On the other hand...!
@007JHS
@007JHS 12 днів тому
'Quite the marmalade dropper,' Great line to open up discussion on this debacle.
@gloin10
@gloin10 12 днів тому
A person, or persons, kidnapped a Tory MP, and released him upon payment of Stg6,500? Does ANYONE believe that people are willing to risk VERY LONG jail sentences for that trivial sum? This is nonsense, on stilts! Utterly incredible, aka unbelievable. WTAF is going on in the UK?
@Lynnefromlyn
@Lynnefromlyn 11 днів тому
The Tory party is going on that’s what. There has not been so much sleaze and corruption in the country for centuries but the past 14 years has done it on stilts.
@thisismetoday
@thisismetoday 11 днів тому
I’m sorry but they are excusing a little too much the behaviour of this MP. How about you don’t get yourself into a situation where you could be blackmailed in the first place? How about you have some decency and a working moral compass.
@leegosling
@leegosling 12 днів тому
But Angela… now we know why they tried to get that in the media before this came out.
@johnwelch5132
@johnwelch5132 12 днів тому
I have sympathy, but for goodness sake he’s been here before and must have a JCB rather than a shovel to dig such a hole for himself.
@stanleydobson382
@stanleydobson382 12 днів тому
Refreshing to see politicians talking without personal political agendas. This debate outshines the BBC,s somewhat ' Chimpanzee's tea party Question Time .
@stevehall6299
@stevehall6299 12 днів тому
QT certainly is these days.
@cedriclynch
@cedriclynch 9 днів тому
​@@stevehall6299I think zoos have been banned from holding chimpanzees' tea parties for about the last 50 years, on the grounds that they undermine the dignity of the chimpanzees.
@Spriggan83
@Spriggan83 12 днів тому
Cocaine... Cocaine
@steveholmes11
@steveholmes11 12 днів тому
Seems a common factor in a lot of our delinquent representatives.
@TheOMT
@TheOMT 12 днів тому
Those across the aisle are your opposition. Your enemies are in the seats behind you.
@mintywebb
@mintywebb 12 днів тому
No, the Tories are. They knew about this months ago.
@sanchezz4387
@sanchezz4387 12 днів тому
Sleaze and scandal are synonyms for the tories
@God_help_us
@God_help_us 11 днів тому
Keith Vaz…Cyril Smith..the list goes on from all the parties
@aliceosborne3866
@aliceosborne3866 12 днів тому
They keep saying‘Westminster’ when they really mean ‘Conservative Party’ … these are mainly Tory problems NOT all Westminster problems.
@WeeShooey
@WeeShooey 12 днів тому
Great chat without BBC or MSM bias. Love it!
@johnholkham2420
@johnholkham2420 12 днів тому
This lady hit the nail on the head , half the MPs went to a few top universities often the same Private Schools.
@andrewmaccallum2367
@andrewmaccallum2367 12 днів тому
Excellent as always Mhairi 👏👏👏
@stevedrane2364
@stevedrane2364 11 днів тому
Well done Channel 4 keep up your great journalism. . The only mainstream channel on British TV investigating the truth . . 👍
@user-hz6lz1dd4j
@user-hz6lz1dd4j 9 днів тому
Everyone should go out and vote for your local 'Workers party' candidate and help George Galloway ruffle some feathers in the house. 🙏🕊️
@gwh3013
@gwh3013 12 днів тому
All tories should get back in the bin they got out of
@JoshAston23
@JoshAston23 12 днів тому
It's taken until 2024.to ask this question?
@gerrylast
@gerrylast 11 днів тому
These "bad people" ? I guess his first port of call would have been the "old bill" unless he had no confidence in them right?
@theantoneric
@theantoneric 12 днів тому
Such a travesty that she’s leaving parliament, someone that ACTUALLY represents the people
@anthonystanbury5537
@anthonystanbury5537 12 днів тому
I think he had already snorted the "devil's dandruff " and was off his ties when he called
@blackwavenoise
@blackwavenoise 12 днів тому
MPs/parliament has to have a broader acceptance. It's still a rich boys' club full of privilege tossers (or maybe that's mainly the conservatives). It's time for reform, where everyone feels comfortable participating in positive change.
@davidroberts6549
@davidroberts6549 12 днів тому
And the Tufton St fascist enablers will already have booked airtime with Kuennsberg and her fellow bingo callers for this weekend
@terryloftus3207
@terryloftus3207 12 днів тому
Justine Greening actually helped me,yes a tory helping.I am a pensioner with rheumitoid arthritis,since I was 38yrs old.I had to be assessed every 3 yrs,she changed mine to about 10yrs before I need to be reassessed,because she knew,you dont get better over time,you get worse,so ONE tory caring.
@bereal6590
@bereal6590 12 днів тому
If she was caring she wouldn't have joined the tory party. Likely she wanted to keep her seat by doing things in her constituency
@AdamLloyd128
@AdamLloyd128 11 днів тому
She left the education secretary post because she refused to enact May's policy of pushing through more grammar schools. The only Tory education secretary I had any respect for
@lafamillecarrington
@lafamillecarrington 12 днів тому
It isn't a good look for the Tories if they have to counter all their sleaze with the possibility that Rayner may not have paid the right amount of tax before she was an MP.
@MRJERRYCURTIN
@MRJERRYCURTIN 12 днів тому
Poor Mark In real danger kidnapped gets nan to cough up 6500 from the biscuit tin and gets him released nothing to see here Guv albeit he has some prevoius
@southerncomfortuk
@southerncomfortuk 10 днів тому
British politics isn’t full of scandal, it just appears to be populated by scandalous people and it’s easy to conflate the two.
@robertpodbery242
@robertpodbery242 11 днів тому
We need to get Angela Merkle out of retirement to run the country, These utterly corrupt things vote themselves bigger pay and pensions for failing spectacularly, then still want more,
@hastekulvaati9681
@hastekulvaati9681 12 днів тому
This scandal pales in comparison to someone potentially not filling out a form correctly in 2015 and maybe avoiding £1500 in CGT.
@crazyman8472
@crazyman8472 12 днів тому
Haven’t they been paying attention? 🤦‍♀️
@robertloader9826
@robertloader9826 12 днів тому
This, unbelievably, isn’t the worst bit… A Tory MP was quizzed by police over allegations he got a dog drunk and had a brawl with a friend. Mark Menzies, who represents the Lancashire constituency of Fylde, was accused of locking himself in his friend’s house, drunkenly feeding the dog alcohol and then starting a booze-fuelled brawl when the friend confronted him about it. Mr Menzies was interviewed by police but not charged, and strongly denies any wrongdoing. The incident took place in August 2015, with the homeowner reportedly calling police from a neighbour’s house after the fight spilled out on to the street. The two men, who according to the Daily Mirror been drinking all day, each told police that the other had attacked them. Documents seen by the paper show an emergency vet’s bill of nearly £500 for treating the dog for “intoxication” and “poisoning”. Mr Menzies claims the police dropped their investigation after he showed them pictures of his friend plying the dog with alcoholic drinks.
@peterdollins3610
@peterdollins3610 12 днів тому
Rotten to the core.
@XxTheAwokenOnexX
@XxTheAwokenOnexX 12 днів тому
UK politicians, along with the Royals, and along with media will continue to coverup the deaths of orphans in care #RIP ❤️
@joancampbell4130
@joancampbell4130 12 днів тому
Establishment pee dohs!!
@wendyknight9574
@wendyknight9574 12 днів тому
The ‘Spreadsheet’ = the blackmail sheet.
@davidarchibald50
@davidarchibald50 11 днів тому
Locked in a flat with bad people at 3.00 am. Something you do not want your wife and kids to hear.🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😂
@Ste2023
@Ste2023 12 днів тому
RENT boyz wanting £££££
@mickeythompson9537
@mickeythompson9537 12 днів тому
Nope. Just the Tory side.
@marksavage1108
@marksavage1108 12 днів тому
cyril smith lord janner
@Lynnefromlyn
@Lynnefromlyn 11 днів тому
@@marksavage1108and the reason you can name them proves the point that there have been monumentally fewer wrong doers in all the other political parties combined. Nice try though.
@marksavage1108
@marksavage1108 11 днів тому
@@Lynnefromlyn we will never know how many perverts there are/ were in westminster after theresa may deleted the file. fewer wrong doers???? labour actively ignored the many many reports about their child rape squad grooming gang perverts. those hundreds of gang rapists bumps labour right up the SLEAZE indicator, and should we stay quiet about labour having the most MPs sent to prison? the tories are scum, labour are worse.
@user-zl4yy5ft3g
@user-zl4yy5ft3g 8 днів тому
Surely this should be reported to the police. A crime took place, if he was being blackmailed, or held for ransom, or he needed to pay for drugs, all of these should be investigated
@myriaddsystems
@myriaddsystems 12 днів тому
Corporate HR departments do not exist for the benefit of employees....
@bobmason1361
@bobmason1361 12 днів тому
It's a tory thing
@CashelOConnolly
@CashelOConnolly 12 днів тому
Ridiculous lies (allegedly)
@williamsafari6437
@williamsafari6437 9 днів тому
i will wait for BRANCHFORM to finish their enquires before i jump to judgement 🤣🤣
@pauls3075
@pauls3075 12 днів тому
"In 2012 reports confirmed 243 (43%) of Parliamentary MPs out of 650, had criminal records over a wide range of offences and included "prison terms" in some cases." FOI request. More recent freedom of information requests have been deliberately delayed and not answered.
@CKM1109
@CKM1109 12 днів тому
MPs should get drug tested
@taykitrleevitt4314
@taykitrleevitt4314 12 днів тому
That, and a psychiatric evaluation.😂
@Titus9508
@Titus9508 12 днів тому
Jesus wept what a mess, problem is (me speaking as a lifelong Socialist) is terrified of the prospect Starmer represents, a typica; One Nation Conservative by ANY definition offering zero political change and the fact he has been radicalised by Zionism being anywhere Britain's policies for the Middle East. Apart from his still appalling record on Gaza, he is the only Labour leader to suspend Jews who disagree with Netenyahu.
@bereal6590
@bereal6590 12 днів тому
That's bull💩 and clearly you're either a tory or reform votevoter and not a socialist
@Titus9508
@Titus9508 12 днів тому
Really? When every action has been covered including his justifications for breaking Party rules. in various media He describes himself as 'A Zionist without Qualification', he refused to release his backers during the election and only revealed afterwards he is supported by backers linked directly to Israeli promotional enterprises, not to mention millionaires who made their wealth under Apartheid South Africa. There are dozens of Court cases still in the offing from suspended left leaning Jews. Scuppering the SNP day motion was one of the lowest acts in recent political history - it would be easy to go on. Here's a bit of education for your childish accusations. Socialism is a movement, not a product of the Labour Party, sometimes the two align and we have get the post war Labour Government - many times it does not and very feeble brains find that difficult to understand.
@scooble
@scooble 12 днів тому
It must be tosh. I mean, Starmers leadership campaign wasn't secretly funded by Zionist millionaire and supporter of west bank settlement development Trevor Chinn was he? I mean, Keir Starmer didn't employ an 'ex' mossad propagandist into his communications team did he? It's not as if Keir Starmer claimed that Israel is not an apartheid state did he? It's not as if Keir Starmer abandoned the decades long Labour pledge to recognise Palestinian statehood did he? It's not as if Martin Forde KC claimed that there is a hierarchy of racism in the party or that antisemitism is used as a factional tool by weaponising disciplinary mechanisms did he?
@scooble
@scooble 12 днів тому
It must be tosh. I mean, Starmers leadership campaign wasn't secretly funded by Zionist millionaire and supporter of west bank settlement development Trevor Chinn was he? I mean, Keir Starmer didn't employ an 'ex' mossad propagandist into his communications team did he? It's not as if Keir Starmer claimed that Israel is not an apartheid state did he? It's not as if Keir Starmer abandoned the decades long Labour pledge to recognise Palestinian statehood did he?
@scooble
@scooble 12 днів тому
It must be tosh. I mean, Stsrmers leadership campaign wasn't secretly funded by Zionist millionaire and supporter of west bank settlement development Trevor Chinn was he? I mean, Keir Starmer didn't employ an 'ex' mossad propagandist into his communications team did he? It's not as if Keir Starmer claimed that Israel is not an apartheid state did he? It's not as if Keir Starmer abandoned the decades long Labour pledge to recognise Palestinian statehood did he?
@Auriflamme
@Auriflamme 12 днів тому
Interviewer: "Mr. Menzies, you've been accused of using thousands in campaign funding to pay off some sexy bois who were blackmailing you" Menzies: "YeS BuT aNgElA rAyNeR..." Interviewer: "That checks out"
@user-pq3jm5yc6y
@user-pq3jm5yc6y 9 днів тому
So after watching this for a bit, it looks like a bunch of core bullies that hold grudges and cover up dishonest behaviour. Great leadership!!!!
@fionagregory9147
@fionagregory9147 12 днів тому
I think Menzies was a closet gambling addict. That is my guess anyway.
@fricozoid1
@fricozoid1 12 днів тому
Prozzies or droogs surely!
@robertloader9826
@robertloader9826 12 днів тому
Rent boys and schnozz
@JoannaHammond
@JoannaHammond 12 днів тому
And now the SNP is in deep trouble, emezzlement.
@31Blaize
@31Blaize 12 днів тому
Makes you wonder why the police are not involved with Mark Menzies since that is also alleged embezzlement... 🤔
@billpugh58
@billpugh58 12 днів тому
Yeah we all know! What’s your point?
@JoannaHammond
@JoannaHammond 12 днів тому
@@billpugh58 That parties seem to keep fucking up.
@Lynnefromlyn
@Lynnefromlyn 11 днів тому
@@billpugh58oh dear,would you rather no one mentioned that?
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