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Agreed!

My wife just left a job because of the very reasons you’ve mentioned and I myself have copped a fair amount of abuse from managers as well. The fact that the these people’s lives are so vapid and pointless they find meaning in small talk is extremely revealing.

@@titovalasques I’m so sorry that you and your wife had to go through that. I would not wish it on anyone. Being bullied in the workplace is actually more common then most people think. A lot of us do not talk about it or think it is normal. Hearing these two talk about offices as though they are a place of “sanctuary” just shows how out of touch they are with reality.

@@TillingtheHeart Thank you! My main reason for my post was to let you know that you’re not alone. This seems to happen everywhere because we’re being led by money centric culture that’s willing to sacrifice everyone and everything for materialistic gain instead of focusing on things that are actually important like family, friends, animal companions, emotional and personal development, creative pursuits and nature.

That's the thing about the workplace pretty much anywhere not just the office, higher-ups, and human resources don't care about a problem until it gets so big that they can't deal with it or simply don't care enough to take care of it, and you have to worry that you may not be apart of a click in the office that they set you up to fail.

btw, yes! Thanks to bring it up! no office - no problems with these kind of things too!

It has to be meaningful. ... No it's not. And you realized it when you lose or quit this job. Then all these relations turned to vapour. Like Twitters friend.

@@omegaman7377 what I meant by meaningful is I’m not driving an hour back and forth for meeting that can done over a zoom call.

Don’t drink the kool aid

Some of us also suffer from mental disorders where being in an office can be more harmful to us then staying at home and working (PTSD ANYONE?) This is all about "property values", they need workers in their buildings to justify their expenses. Guess I've not been human for 8 years since I started my home based business. IDK...

Im an extrovert who thrives on social interaction and I love working from home because I get to control who I talk to

Well said!

I completely sympathise with you, but I do wonder is it healthy to continue to isolate yourself as an introvert. Also how real and tangible are those online connections? Isn't the whole point of our lives to try to overcome the things that are holding us back... social anxiety being one of them. I speak from experience.

I agree. I now work from home as a designer and it's changed my life for the better. I was able to move city, finally live with my partner, get away from the office environment that was suffocating me. I get my social interactions from other places. I get it from my local towns, from going to a cafe to work, I now live in the countryside so I have natural beauty all around me. Thankfully my workplace has agreed to two days a month in the office and that's great. Perhaps if I had stronger connections to my colleagues I'd feel differently, but I don't, my connections are elsewhere. If I was told I had to work from the office full time again I would quit. My mental health has never been better. I never felt I could truly be myself in an office environment. Also as a creative I feel I have that time and space and freedom to explore that was not happening in the office. So I agree remote working has also been a life saver for me. I think you have to approach working from home much differently to working in an office though. I personally don't have a rigid structure which helps me work better as it suits my personality and working styles.

@@benitajat.9625 online connections are very real. And any real life connections should be from people who we chose to be with and not just happened to be working with. You know there’s a whole life outside the office?

@@benitajat.9625 no one wants to have to go into work. This lady just wants to controle her employees.

@@benitajat.9625 whether you wonder it or not this persons mental health and what helps them isnt any of your buisness, we all work in different ways to get the job done, people should have the choice and flexability to work how they want, the pandemic has shown that its completely possible

I worked as a kindergarten teacher for 5 years.I left that career and moved to office work because I was no longer able to do the emotional labor of listening to someone else child screen all day

It's nothing like as she says. She wants everyone to be FORCED back to offices.

I don't think extroverts would mind being 'forced' back to the office whereas the introverts will be more concerned about going back. There is more research coming out now that the lockdowns and isolation of people is causing significant problems and suffering. Again a balance or hybrid model where we can be in the office and also at home seems to be the best option. It may very well come down to businesses 'forcing' their employees back. I don't agree that Gov should get involved because all Gov is incompetent.

Agreed! They're all really diverse and have a lot of wisdom and insight to share.

I think it should be an option, not mandatory.