NEW Sub $69 Fanless 2.5GbE Switches with 10GbE
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День томуWe take a look at 9x sub $100 2.5GbE and SFP+ 10GbE switch options and find one model produced by at least two vendors to be disruptive. We also have fanless PoE+ options, options with just 2.5GbE. The best part is that these switches range from about $50 to $100 making them relatively affordable.
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Where to Find The Unit We Purchased
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- TP-Link TL-SE1005M - s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_Dki...
- YuanLey YS25-0402 - amzn.to/45ytWJg
- Davuaz Da-K6402W - amzn.to/47VW7TQ
- Vimin VM-S250402 - amzn.to/44tSPo0
- Sodola SL-SWTG015AS - amzn.to/3Z3BfG8
- MokerLink 2G05110 - amzn.to/45EPq7q
- YuanLey YS25-0801 - amzn.to/3sAVW0d
- Davuaz Da-K9801W - amzn.to/47XRkBj
- Sodola SL-SGT108-P - amzn.to/3Po4FMh
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Timestamps
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00:00 Introduction
01:24 5x 2.5GbE TP-Link TL-SE1005M
03:15 4x 2.5GbE 2x 10GbE YuanLey YS25-0402
05:04 4x 2.5GbE 2x 10GbE Davuaz Da-K6402W
05:48 4x 2.5GbE 2x 10GbE Vimin VM-S250402
07:21 5x 2.5GbE 1x 10GbE Sodola SL-SWTG015AS
09:08 5x 2.5GbE 1x 10GbE MokerLink 2G05110
10:12 8-port 2.5GbE 1x 10GbE YuanLey YS25-0801
11:22 8-port 2.5GbE 1x 10GbE Davuaz Da-K9801W
12:03 8-port 2.5GbE PoE+ Sodola SL-SGT108-P
13:12 Key Lessons Learned and Switch Recommendations
15:29 Wrap-up
@SweBeach2023 8 місяців тому
It's crazy how long 1Gb has been the standard.
@viljosavolainen2286 8 місяців тому
There havent been many regular consumers needing anything faster. Its rare to use fast home server and who has internet connection faster than 1 gig? Most people are also lazy so they go with wifi. Prosumer level seems to have gotten big enough and technology gotten cheap enough that there is enough demand now.
@OceansideCASailing 7 місяців тому
My house has used the same 1gb switches since 2007. I'll upgrade once my PCs start supporting 2.5g
@viljosavolainen2286 7 місяців тому
@@OceansideCASailing I dont need to transfer files between my comps and i have only slow nas so no need to upgrade currently. At some point it will happen but then prices might have gone down.
@solandri69 2 місяці тому
Bear in mind that the speed increase going from 10 Mbps to 100 Mbps, is equivalent to going from 100 Mbps to 190 Mbps, not from 100 Mbps to 1 Gbps. So you should expect going from 100 Mbps to 1 Gbps to take longer than going from 10 Mbps to 100 mbps. And 1 Gbps to 10 Gbps should take even longer. We're also running into limitations of the speed of light. If you're varying a signal at 312 MHz like the Cat6 sec says, a wavelength is only 96 cm long. Meaning a 10 meter cable is actually "storing" 10 waves in transit along it at any moment. Reminds me of the old days of racetrack memory.
@joemann7971 2 місяці тому
@@OceansideCASailing If your PC has empty PCI-E slots, it's just a matter of buying a NIC for 2.5g or even 10G.
@agizm0 8 місяців тому
I, too, keep hearing the argument that 2.5G shouldn't exist. But as someone who manages networks, 2.5G is awesome because I don't have to rip out 400+ Cat5e cables in multiple buildings.
@ServeTheHomeVideo 8 місяців тому
Exactly.
@Wingnut353 8 місяців тому
It still shouldn't exist because its an underperforming spec.... like 1G networks are potato class hardware these days its cents for a 1G nic, 10G even was only advanced 20 years ago... now it should be ubiquitous. What is even crazier is most AMD CPUs of the past few hears ahve an integrated 10G nic that is never routed out on but except maybe a single EPYC embedded board but they all have it. It's even worse that $250+ motherboards ship with shitty 1 or 2.5G nics... instead of 10G... if I were selling mobo's I'd be embarassed to sell anything over that price with a 1G nic completely embarrassed.
@michaelprescott387 8 місяців тому
I love 2.5 honestly and to be honest other than accessing on-site hardware. It's useless going any higher unless in a large buisness building. Since your prob not gonna saturate all those links and have websites that will even supply that much bandwidth too you. IMO
@TheHuesSciTech 8 місяців тому
What's the argument for 2.5G in the remotely normal home, though? I can't contrive a situation that even a hobbyist would engage in that would meaningfully benefit from going beyond gigabit? Genuinely curious.
@zackkoukios8123 8 місяців тому
@@TheHuesSciTechFile transfers to a NAS for one thing. Networked storage is a pretty mainstream use case and even a single HDD can far exceed gigabit. Cutting the transfer time to a little under half is a big improvement that just about anyone can readily notice
@be-kind00 8 місяців тому
Thanks for what you do! Can you please start doing a regular session on managed switches with 2.5, 10, and poe++? I think a lot of us need these for dual 10g nas ports and powering those power hungry 6e AP's. Anyone else agree?
@ServeTheHomeVideo 8 місяців тому
WOW! THANK YOU! We are going to start working on more of those soon. As in, Bryan did photos/ B-Roll for them yesterday. Maybe in an October update we will have more of them.
@egerlachca 8 місяців тому
Yes please! I'm not running WiFi 6e APs yet, but I'm just done with unmanaged devices. I've done the UniFi thing for a while, and I'm looking for the next thing.
@tabbertmj 8 місяців тому
I'm interested in the managed switches, too. I run multiple vlans at home.
@TheRbray 8 місяців тому
Yes! Especially because searching poe++ is always saturated with 802.3af/at units and not bt. Then when you find something that does do poe++, it's gigabit only.
@sashag1547 8 місяців тому
Yes! 2.5/10 managed would be great.
@Centurion13 8 місяців тому
It's not uncommon for manufacturers to produce a product and then sell it under multiple brand names that compete against each other. Sometimes they will even go so far as to market them to different targets with significantly different prices. I suspect that is the case for some of these such as the Sodola and Mokerlink or the Yuanley and Davuaz.
@anivicuno9473 8 місяців тому
My most prescient example of this is steadler erasers. They've got two packs at the dollar store for 2 dollars, and single packs at the art store for 7.50
@noredine 8 місяців тому
They're doing the spiderman meme
@AndersHass 8 місяців тому
Or a manufacturer has a model that brands can license to attach their name to (so the brands aren’t necessarily owned by the same company as the manufacturer but they all basically release the same product).
@wcr6121 8 місяців тому
"The illusion of choice"
@ihatesignupsgrrrrrrr 8 місяців тому
How can you go about confirming if the switch was made by the same manufacturer? You seem to realize this, but how do you know this?
@cszulu2000 8 місяців тому
Has anyone tested the Chinese switches for security reasons?
@meikgeik 7 місяців тому
This needs more upvotes.
@Rob2 Місяць тому
It is not very likely that dumb switches like this have security issues. And if they had, they would just as likely have them when being American.
@chuckholmes2075 3 дні тому
as long as you're behind NAT or a firewall and run a Smart Router then I think you'd be safe.
@Meowbay 3 дні тому
Nonsense. You need to be way more scared of the NSA/CIA/FBI and the US NATO war machine.
@WoobsBallJesse 8 місяців тому
Thanks for highlighting these. I'm in the process of doing some upgrades to my networking setup in my apartment and 2.5 gig has been a focus for cost purposes.
@leonidy745 8 місяців тому
Thank you for your work Patrick, and team! You are always so enthusiastic, keep it that way! I moved my home network to 2.5Gbe thanks to your video I randomly came across, now subscribed and looking forward to each new one :-)
@SeanHarlow 8 місяців тому
I entirely agree with the frustration that major brands aren't offering something like this. I'll probably be ordering one of the 4x2.5+2x10G models soon as it's enough for my immediate needs but I wish someone would offer a switch with 8x 2.5G, 2x 10G, at least four ports of PoE, and basic VLANs. That'd be my perfect desktop switch for now.
@andiszile 8 місяців тому
MikroTik just announced 8 port 2.5G switch, with 2x SFP+
@wojtek-33 8 місяців тому
You just described the TP-Link TL-SG3210XHP-M2 and the UniFi Switch Enterprise 8 and the Netgear MS510TXUP.
@TA-mx3zm 8 місяців тому
@@wojtek-33 The TP Link costs 450€, the ubiqiti is 480-500€, the netgear is 800€ those Aliexpress switches are 30-70€.. There is a massive price difference..
@wojtek-33 8 місяців тому
@@TA-mx3zm He asked for smart/managed switches.
@Rob2 8 місяців тому
The MikroTik is $219 so it neatly fits inbetween. It is 8+2 ports. @@TA-mx3zm
@gh8447 8 місяців тому
That TP-Link unit didn't even have shielded ports for the 2.5 Gb ports. Real bottom-of-the-barrel stuff right there.
@ServeTheHomeVideo 8 місяців тому
Yea. That is why it is in the "not recommended list"
@marcogenovesi8570 8 місяців тому
That's kind of what you would expect from a TP-Link
@sayanchx 8 місяців тому
TP is in the name! 😅
@TheExileFox 8 місяців тому
Even so it can be really reliable.
@-PORK-CHOP- 3 місяці тому
@@TheExileFox Correct, TP Link have been around for years and is a "brand" name, unlike 90% of these ones you can't even pronounce, will they still be working in 3 months ?
@jolness1 8 місяців тому
The Vimin joke, and especially Patrick’s happiness after was amazing. Great video, finally may get my server hooked up over 10 gig
@ServeTheHomeVideo 8 місяців тому
I was a bit surprised that this made the cut
@TheHuesSciTech 8 місяців тому
What are you doing on your server that can saturate a 10 gig link? I'm genuinely curious if there's any point to this beyond-1-gigabit stuff that isn't just "ooh shiny big numbers" -- not trolling -- genuinely don't understand?
@x86FTW 8 місяців тому
I've been running the Vimin variant for over a month now without any issues and its been flawless. That said, there were some small details that I think should be mentioned.. The included AC adapter was an extremely cheap phone style block with a USB type A ouput to barrel output that looked like a fire hazard. The Mokerlnk adapter (also purchased the 5x2.5 1x10G) was a little more reassuring looking. Also, when powered the Vimin has a blinking green LED on the interior that is bright enough to be seen through the chasis and the front ports, and has no relation to operation. Opened my unit and stuck a small piece of cardboard to minimize the light show.
@TheBelcherMan 8 місяців тому
Just really enjoy, your content. Been a CCIE, for this my 26th year. Don't get to play in this space much and it keeps me grounded.
@uther10 8 місяців тому
Thanks so much for the reviews and this series!
@complexity5545 8 місяців тому
I'm commenting just to show my support of this channel. Good stuff, and I end up buying stuff that I think comes from this guy. Its hard to find fellow enterprise guys that I can listen to for entertainment.
@jeremyjedynak 8 місяців тому
Thanks for covering these devices! The PCBs appear small enough that a manufacturer could make Ethernet Switch Card in PCIe form factor, where the host could have a dedicated port via the PCIe connection and even a second management over PCIe for managed variants of such cards.
@camialeh 5 місяців тому
but... u could buy a 4port nic and use ur pc as a switch lmao, bought a cisco c240 m3 for homelabbing, i has 3x4Gb Nics, so theres all my vms and also serves as switch, my isp router is the Home network and from there i got 2 uplink for my cisco where all MY things connect, so i dont fck up my home's internet if i start doing anything lol
@joansparky4439 8 місяців тому
I also got the 2x 10Gb SFP+ 4x 2.5GbE ( 3:17 ) for being the middle node with having two 1x 10Gb SFP+ 8x 2.5GbE ( 7:42 ) connected to the node via 850nm fiber. Should be good enough for a simple home network without a need for several VLANS and other gimmicks I have no use nor interest in maintaining.
@The_Think3r 8 місяців тому
Vimin Switch: The VLan switch ensures that Ports 1-4 cannot communicate with each other but with ports 5&6 (to separate networks).
@ServeTheHomeVideo 8 місяців тому
This is correct.
@s.i.m.c.a 8 місяців тому
its not really vlan, but port isolation
@magfal 8 місяців тому
I'd love this feature on more low port count switches (properly labeled)
@arandomguy4478 8 місяців тому
@@magfalloads of aliexpress poe switches have that featire
@magfal 8 місяців тому
@@arandomguy4478 I'd like to see it on switches that I can trust.
@johngalea2285 8 місяців тому
Another great article. What I would find helpful, and maybe you've already done it and I'm just not seeing it, is a guide to what would then plug into the SFP port, which transceiver, which card, and then which cable. Thanks again for helping really clarify the myriad of offerings out there!
@MeMyselfI_69 4 місяці тому
Thank you, you were extremely helpful in my search for a 2.5 GB switch
@zackkoukios8123 8 місяців тому
I literally just received the 9 port YuanLey model w/ PoE+ from Amazon yesterday. I didn't see it in any roundup from STH at the time of purchase but figured $130 for 8 2.5G ports with PoE+ and SFP+ was too good to pass up. It's been working great so far and is perfect for those of us running 2.5GbE capable APs. I'm getting well above 1 Gig transfer rates to my NAS from WIRELESS devices! Wireless! Consider me blown away. It sure beats dropping the $479 Ubiquiti wants for their 8 port 2.5GbE PoE switch.
@ServeTheHomeVideo 8 місяців тому
Super! We have the Davuaz version too already tested, but not in time for this set of 9 switches.
@ElmokillaXDK 8 місяців тому
Same and I love mine makes transferring to and from my nas ez pz
@be-kind00 8 місяців тому
@zackkoukios8123 thank can you provide the link to this switch please?
@zackkoukios8123 8 місяців тому
@@be-kind00 it's under the same Amazon listing that STH posted in the video description. It's the YuaLey 9 port | 8*PoE+
@JKGarageBMW 8 місяців тому
Does it support vlan trunk/tagging?
@SB-qm5wg 8 місяців тому
TY for the reviews.
@jjones2582 8 місяців тому
I've been hoping for a couple years now that 2.5G would hurry up and become the new low end entry point like 1G has been for almost a decade now. This looks like that ball has finally started rolling. Now if the big names will start replacing all their 1G switches with 2.5G equivalents.
@mastroitek 8 місяців тому
So true, at the time internet was slow and same was for HDDs, but rn we have cheap SSDs that can push 3-6GBps and even entry level NASes start having multiple 2.5 or 5Gb ports with NVMe support, we need at the very least 2.5GbE to become the new standard
@javaman2883 7 місяців тому
I used to think 1G was standard, as my desktop in 2007 had it. But once my internet got upgraded, I realized the Gigabit routers I bought in 2016 through 2020 did not have any gigabit ports on them, only gigabit WiFI. Between 2015 and 2021 I lived in a mountain town, so the fasted interent was 15Mbps, and thunderstorms were rought on ethernet ports. I learned to unplug everything, the ethernet going from one room to another picked up enough inductive charge to fry ethernet ports even when power strips ion both rooms were unpoluged from the wall. So i kept a router on spare, as ordering one would take a few days or any hour drive to buy a way overpriced one.
@jjones2582 7 місяців тому
@@javaman2883 - That is pretty interesting. I've never heard of the Ethernet indoors getting enough static buildup to fry ports. On outdoor Wifi access points a static build up is more common and they make shielded Ethernet cable with a electrostatic drain-wire to help siphon that off. It requires special shielded plugs with a drain-wire connection, and of course a switch with shielded ports that is also grounded through a three wire power cable or else a separate ground wire.
@Evan-lg1xp 8 місяців тому
Super nice find!!!
@davidhettinger8873 8 місяців тому
Thanks STH. Looking forward to tracking down a managed 4 port (2.5gb) 1 port sfp+ unit with PoE when the wifi 7 standard is finalized for APs. Cheers.
@kazolar 8 місяців тому
I got the POE version of the Davuaz 4/2 switch -- actually ended up getting 3 of them. Even though my Unifi 6 are not 2.5gb capable, I noticed a near 2x jump in throughput on wifi performance moving the Wifi APs to these and from 1gb POE switches. I think having POE switches connect to the network through 10gb helps a great deal in freeing up switching throughput. I read some reviews about other switches with the same layout -- likely same internals having some issues with both SFP ports occupied, not my use case, so I've been very happy with what I am getting. You should also test Power usage with SFP using either direct copper or fiber. SFP to ethernet is the least power efficient and those adapters can run really hot -- 80-90c is normal for some of them.
@nickpage221 8 місяців тому
The 8-port version of the Sodola SL-SWTG015AS (called 8X2.5G+10G SFP on AZ) is currently only $99, I bought one about five months ago and it has been working fine so far. I think it's worth mentioning because you posted the Sodola SL-SGT108-P which is currently around $95 and for about the same price, you can get the same switch but with an added 10GbE SFP+. If people "don't need" the SFP+ then just save the $4 but, with a .5m DAC cable only like $9, it's a great way to uplink switches like these together.
@ServeTheHomeVideo 8 місяців тому
I think we reviewed that one in the last video and showed it quickly here.
@PolymorphicBytes 3 місяці тому
Yes! Great advice. in many situations, buying the DAC is the better option for both performance and price. Although beware of connecting switches together, because the first switch will become the bottleneck. It's better to connect all the switches back to a router or a single core switch that can handle the sum capacity.
@tonicipriani 8 місяців тому
Horaco is also one of the brands it seems, they have this same switch under "New Arrivals". I was so close to pulling the trigger on their 8x2.5GbE+1x10G-SFP model, looks just like the Yuanley model but was also available L2 managed.
@drtbantha 8 місяців тому
These 4+2 models are really promising - have been looking for a low wattage switch to handle just a router, APs, and a fast link to my separate home lab. These might just do the trick! Only thing that would make them better for that use case is PoE.
@WhiteG60 8 місяців тому
That's what I did. I got one of these + an 8 port 10Gbe SFP+ switch and just stuck a twinax cable as the ISL. For < $150 total I had both.
8 місяців тому
Thanks for the video! Do the SFP+ ports support 2.5G modules?
@alonzosmith6189 8 місяців тому
Nice, looking at the POE ++ model. Tk U for sharing
@dukeseb 8 місяців тому
Bought 2 of those a month ago… love em….
@UltimateTechHub 8 місяців тому
It's pretty amazing how cheap these 2.5gbe switches are getting. Probably better to buy a mid range priced switch since its probably built with better parts and chassis. Heat is my main issue since my Network Panel is jammed packed with about a dozen devices! Great video brother.
@V1N_574 Місяць тому
Just got the Davuaz 2.5 switch for 38 bucks, I'm so ready for this new adventure 😂😂😂😂
@tames307 8 місяців тому
I recently got one of those YuanLey 6-port units and I have it fully populated with a mixture of 10Gb, 2.5Gb and 1Gb connections. It works well and I got it on Amazon for $63 so I've been pretty happy with it.
@rbaylis91 3 місяці тому
👋Curious which 10g adapter did you get? Looking for a 10gb RJ45 and wondering about compatibility.
@KunouJS 3 місяці тому
Does it still work? I'm reading the reviews, and one mentions it failed after 30 days. Another mentions that it disconnects frequently.
@rbaylis91 3 місяці тому
@@KunouJS I’m about a week in and the 2.5gb seems to work reliably so far.
@eldibs 8 місяців тому
Well this video couldn't have been better timed. I just got fiber internet literally yesterday and was going to look at cheap options to upgrade my 1GbE home network to be able to handle the extra traffic from my server better.
@shmehfleh3115 8 місяців тому
Good to see prices coming down on 2.5gE switches. I've had motherboards with onboard 2.5gE nics for the better part of a decade now, and have never used them at their rates speed. The switches were always way too expensive to justify the upgrade.
@TryHardNewsletter 4 місяці тому
If your motherboards had Intel 2.5gE chips then it wouldn't have mattered anyways
@jonathanmarshall3974 8 місяців тому
It would be really cool if you took some of the heat sinks off and did some chip ID. It wouldn't take very long (couple seconds per switch). Thanks for the video!
@matthiaslange392 8 місяців тому
I had problems with cheap switches in the past: because of delivery-shortage of network devices, an electrician installed a cheap poe-switch for security cameras. and it took me some hours to figure out that it injected bad frequencies in the buildings power-circuits that stopped working all of the customers powerline-adapters. the errors were gone seconds after i disconnected this cheap switch. I told the customer better get a d-link or tp-link.
@sayanchx 8 місяців тому
Finally the review we.. Err I have been waiting for!
@ServeTheHomeVideo 8 місяців тому
Super!
@nathangrennan4804 8 місяців тому
I already have a QNAP 2.5gbit with SFP+. What I am really interested in is a eight port multi-gigabit 10gbit copper and one SFP+ port switch. There are 2-3 on the market, but they are all $500+.
@TheHuesSciTech 8 місяців тому
What are you doing on your network that actually comes close to saturating 8 ports of 10gbit bandwidth?
@rockking1379 8 місяців тому
Here I am excited mikrotik announced the CRS310-8G+2S+ switch yesterday
@ServeTheHomeVideo 8 місяців тому
Yea Rohit covered that on the main site. MikroTik's design is higher power/ performance but also more than twice the price. Hopefully they start shipping them soon instead of in many months.
@PolymorphicBytes 3 місяці тому
I used to be a Mikrotik fan but after a few bad experiences they fell out of favor. It's a shame.
@Alen.88 8 місяців тому
Glad to see that everyone start to make 2.5GbE switches, but Im still waiting for cheap QNAP QSW-2104-2T clone. 2 copper 10GbE plus few 2.5GbE ones.
@ServeTheHomeVideo 8 місяців тому
Agreed.
@sethfreund5007 7 місяців тому
Great reviews! Have you come across any 2.5GBe switches that are POE powered?
@jamb312 8 місяців тому
I just got this “Davuaz 2.5G PoE Switch with 8 x 2.5G Base-T Ports and 1 x 10G SFP Uplink Port” as I needed 2.5 Gbe POE for wifi 6E AP, a Mikrotik router board, and a couple raspberry pi’s. Fit great in my rack, I need to power test though.
@Psychx_ 8 місяців тому
The YuanLey, Devuaz and Vimin switches with 4x 2.5Gbe and 2x 10Gb SFP+ are probably the exact same product. The layout suggests that they're all using the same PCB inside.
@MemoGrafix 8 місяців тому
THEY ARE. Plenty Chinese Manufacturers do that on Amazon/EBay/Walmart for the last 6 years. With those ridiculous names trying to sound cool for electronics.
@shApYT 8 місяців тому
Thank you, Mr.Xi.
@41istair 8 місяців тому
Thanks for spending a great deal of time end effort on these reviews. Please can you detail your throughput testing methodology, as those figures are of limited use without more detail, I also didn't see this mention on the website: - RFC2544 ? - Small ~64KB packets? - IMIX packet size spread? - Large ~1500KB packets? - Single unidirectional or simultaneous bidirectional throughput tests?
@Louis25495 8 місяців тому
The VLAN switch separates the 2.5G ports from one another. Each one can only communicate with the SFP+ ports, but not with each other.
@John-eq8cu 7 місяців тому
I wondered: are these units identical, or slmost identical? I really wanted to see inside all of them, but you only showed inside a couple of them. You showed that the performance was identical, and they look similar, but do they also have the same board design, same chips, etc.? Thanks for the great review. this hit the nail on the head as I'm currently shopping to upgrade my home network.
@minhajul94 4 місяці тому
just upgraded to a 2 gig connection, UDM SE, and U6E AP. The Vimin switch works great with an SFP+ DAC to the UDM, and the AP, pushing the full 2gig connection all the way through without issues
@sparkyenergia 8 місяців тому
These are perfect. I want a switch to connect up from my gateway to the wireless AP's on my network. I have 3 ubiquiti AP's they are 1gbe connection but future ones wont be. I also get a 10g link back to the gateway. And its fibre so electrical isolation for upstream devices.
@Shadoweee 8 місяців тому
Awesome stuff I just wish there would be an open protocol for SDN that manufacturers actually use :)
@markarca6360 8 місяців тому
Mikrotik has released a video lately about their newest product which is an 8-port 2.5Gb mGig with 2x SFP+ 10Gb.
@victorcoss2600 6 місяців тому
which model?
@dukeseb 8 місяців тому
I bought the VIMIN one and I’m using it just find with a 1 metre Ubiquiti sfp+ DAC cable just fine
@tim3172 8 місяців тому
I bought the NICGIGA version of this for $56 ($69.99 - 20% coupon). It happily moved some 4 terabytes between 250-300MBps and hasn't caused any issues for a few months. It makes no noise (fan or electrical) that I can tell. Unless there's some chip in there sending my logins to somebody, I don't see any problems with it.
@wiedapp 8 місяців тому
Regarding the Vimin switch: Recently the German UKpostsr Raspberry Pi Cloud did a review on it and did elaborate a bit on the VLAN switch. If active it seperates all 2.5G ports from each other, but clients plugged in there could still make a connection to the 10G ports...well, at least one of them. If to both I dont know, didn't get an answer to my question about that. He's a busy man and I'm one of many, so no hard feelings. Another point I do wonder about is how the IP addresses are handled when that switch is enabled. Or how this seperation is handled at all. From what I know right now you better use one of the 10G ports for uplink.
@ram64man 8 місяців тому
Please do a managed and router 2.5 switch units as well and what os is like to manage
@Bawlk 8 місяців тому
Hope to see some managed stuff
@javaman2883 7 місяців тому
During Prime day I saw a 2.5GbE switch, with 5 ports and 2 ports, thinking it was one like these here. When I looked at the specs, I saw that it was 5 gigabit ports, with 2 2.5GbE ports for $75 normally $110. Glad I watched this video to know that wasn't a good deal.
@ServeTheHomeVideo 7 місяців тому
Happy to help! Enjoy.
@ssokolow 3 місяці тому
Depends on what you need. I'm considering setting up a little mini-cluster where I need to hook up five to eight hand-me-down devices with gigabit and one device with 2.5G that'll have the SSD they all pull their data from. Given that none of the gigabit devices are going to saturate their links when doing CPU-bound stuff like batch thumbnailing, the concern is a cost-effective way to avoid bottlenecking between them and the machine doubling as a storage server/task dispatcher as the I/O gets concentrated, so it makes sense to have at least ONE switch in the house that has a couple of 2.5Gbit ports, five to eight 1Gbit ports, and a backplane really only needs to be good enough to allow saturating the one 2.5Gbit port in both directions.
@EdDie-vz7ey 8 місяців тому
Found one for 40 Euro's on Aliexpress.... OK I'm going to get that one :) Great video thanks a bunch
@leonardomanes6713 8 місяців тому
Incorrect link for the Sodola SW. Thank you for another awesome review.
@ServeTheHomeVideo 8 місяців тому
Thanks!
@inve 7 місяців тому
How about units w/POE+ which should be pretty standard for home/small business use, as we are going to be seeing a lot more POE smart devices.
@TDCIYB77 8 місяців тому
Peak STH content!
@ServeTheHomeVideo 8 місяців тому
For now. Hopefully the new studio gets us to a better place!
@ericrice9515 7 місяців тому
Question, if running one SFP+ transceiver and one 10 Gbe transceiver in the two SFP+ slots, would you recommend Davuaz DA-K6402W or YUANLey YS25-0402 over the more expensive QNAP QSW-2104-2S-A?
@andrewt9204 8 місяців тому
Not quite the same, but I've been using a Zyxel XGS1010-12 for $150 for nearly 3 years now. It's 8x 1Gb, 2x 2.5Gb, and 2x SFP+. It's not all 2.5G of course and won't work for everyone, but I don't think that's a common use scenario yet. So many devices won't even utilize more than 1Gb yet.
@fps_purple9556 8 місяців тому
Did you ever make a completion video on the fiber upgrades you did to the lab?
@ServeTheHomeVideo 8 місяців тому
No! I was thinking about doing that after the move to Scottsdale. Not sure if folks want that kind of content
@tupchurch 8 місяців тому
I bought a version of one of these for my office and the computer connected to the 2.5G port would randomly disconnect every couple of days. It didn't seem to matter which 2.5G port I used. The 10G ports seems to work fine. I didn't figure out what was going on until after the return window. I had to replace it with a QNAP of the same style. Buyer beware with these, I don't know if my experience is typical.
@rahulshah1408 8 місяців тому
That’s a steal!
@gerryrozema8338 4 місяці тому
I’ve got the vimin 4+2 with Poe. If you turn on the vlan switch the 4 Ethernet ports are isolated but they all trunk onto the sfp
@svetlinzarev3453 8 місяців тому
Please make a review of the KeepLink cheap 5/8 ports 2.5Gbps switch from Aliexpress
@ChristopherGaul 8 місяців тому
It would be nice if you would include link aggregation as a check box in your reviews and review pages on your site. Basically, I'd like to know when devices support link aggregation or not. Link Aggregation or Port Bonding is why I haven't much considered replacing my gigabit ethernet network with 2.5Gb yet since my server and main workstation are both using dual, bonded links to my switch which supports LA. If any of these cheap switches supported LA and there were cheap dual port 2.5 NICs available, I'd consider upgrading but at this point I'm waiting for cheap 10Gb before I make the jump.
@ServeTheHomeVideo 8 місяців тому
Usually you need managed switches for that. At the same time, with SMB3 multichannel being supported by most Windows/ Linux desktops and most NAS distributions at this point, you can just use that with unmanaged switches and get similar performance.
@ChristopherGaul 8 місяців тому
@ServeTheHomeVideo Good point, though Link Aggregation works with everything, not just SMB. BUT, having just watched your hasivo 10Gb switch review, it's hard to consider 2.5Gb without smart features or LA as a serious upgrade option anymore. IMO, you're now better off holding off on upgrading until you can save up the difference for the hasivo 10Gb switch, at which point you end up with a faster, more feature filled, managed switch. The $150-200 price difference makes it to sweet a deal to pass up.
@giuseppearbia 5 місяців тому
I have two horaco 2.5gb, I am planning to use the 10G SFP to connect them together
@GarethGolding 8 місяців тому
Saw this video, had a nosey on AliExpress and bought a Hisource branded 4x 2.5Gbe 2x SFP+ switch for a massive £26.20. Wish me luck!
@ServeTheHomeVideo 8 місяців тому
Oh wow!
@GarethGolding 8 місяців тому
@@ServeTheHomeVideo An update for you. The switch I ordered for £26.20 arrived. I can't test the SPF+, but the 2.5Gbe ports are working as advertised. Bargain.
@dansalazar7779 2 місяці тому
@@GarethGoldingwere you able to test since? What are your thoughts on the unit?
@GarethGolding 2 місяці тому
Still not used the SFP+ ports, but no problems otherwise.
@qm3ster 8 місяців тому
The VLAN switch looked interesting, wish you leaned into it.
@ServeTheHomeVideo 8 місяців тому
We are going to have the full review on the STH main site. It is written, my guess is that it goes live this week but it depends on if there is any big news. If not, the full review will go live next week.
@user-yg4yc6nl7e 8 місяців тому
Normally the Vlan switch will seperate the ethernet from each other giving only access to the uplinks. Can be useful in some circumstances but normally is just a pain in the arse when enabled
@brians5724 3 місяці тому
I wish you'd include unit heat during your iperf tests. The MokerLink I have runs very warm.
@thomasguida2486 7 місяців тому
Great segment, all of your explanations are very easy to follow. When you brought up Port Mirroring, a security question came to mind. There are so many manufacturers or Network switches, some appear to be USA companies, and others we have no idea where they are from. I have seen videos where the same electronics appears to be in different packaging with different company names. Question: How secure are Network switches, and how can we know if any of our network traffic (personal data) is being “forwarded” without our knowledge to a person or company to be used for nefarious purposes. Is there a way to determine if this is being done?
@ServeTheHomeVideo 7 місяців тому
On unmanaged switches it is hard. If you tried forwarding all traffic people will see 2.5Gbps+ streams easily. These do not have enough CPU power to do deep packet inspection and select which packets to send.
@alphenit 8 місяців тому
Good to see prices are coming down but without the most simple of things like management and VLANs they are not of much use I think.
@ronwatkins5775 8 місяців тому
Is there a review on a 4-8port POE 1G switch somewhere no your site?
@herlegz6969 8 місяців тому
Does the wattage draw when plugging in cables indicate how stable or long a cable will work with it? Does a higher draw indicate it will improve the transmission reliability?
@maxhammick948 4 місяці тому
It doesn't, the power draw when plugging something into a port only influences your power bill. Anything remotely modern (i.e. made in the last decade) will comply with 802.3az and Green Ethernet, so the switch will automatically adjust the signal levels to match the needs of that run of cable
@RJ-bm9yt 8 місяців тому
While I know these are unmanaged switches, does anyone have experience with if these will pass 802.1q headers and support larger MTUs? Would like to treat these like 'trunk' switches even though they are unmanaged.
@BerNieSLU 8 місяців тому
Do you have a similar video for managed switches?
@chuckthetekkie 8 місяців тому
My biggest concern is still is there anything malicious in the no-name switch's firmware? The TP-Link one is probably the only one I would trust since they are a well know trusted brand.
@geepeezee5030 5 місяців тому
I doubt it's a real tplink model. The box looks like a complete knock off. In fact, I find no reference to it on tplink's site.
@alvallac2171 Місяць тому
*well known
@MrHeHim Місяць тому
6 months after this review.. Found TONS of 8 port 2.5GbE + 1 port 10Gb SFP+ for around $35 and I'm looking at one for $32.50 USD w/free shipping from Aliexpress. And the reviews look legit, not bad at all
@patrickhanft 8 місяців тому
Anything similar to any of these with basic smart managed features (VLAN, 802.1X, etc.) and I'd be really happy!
@ChrisWard74 8 місяців тому
Do any of these support IEEE 802.1w Rapid Spanning Tree Protocol (RSTP) and /or IEEE 802.1s Multiple Spanning Trees Protocol (MSTP)
@bitkahuna 8 місяців тому
nice to have the faster switches but what about nic's to use that speed?
@davidfarning8246 8 місяців тому
While not the fanciest switches on the market, they are going to start disrupting the market for users like me with only a few devices that need the higher connectivity. Really hoping the Flex line of Unifi switches need to drop in price to become a bit more comparable. I can't imagine the BOM cost is 10X higher for a 10G switch which sells for $299 than a 1G switch which sells for $29.
@stb-pk1fs 8 місяців тому
Unifi still thinks 2.5G switches are "enterprise".
@jeremymathis6906 6 місяців тому
I wonder if the VLAN switch on the Vimin switch changes the interfaces from Access to Trunk ports without native, where you would need to tag everything.
@someoneoutthere1866 21 день тому
Should do a thorough test on these... wonder if these cheap switches drop packets?!?
@hipantcii 8 місяців тому
Do you have jitter measurements in your test data? In my experience this can be a problem with cheap switches with latency sensitive applications. Like in home game streaming for example.
@redlinejoes 8 місяців тому
I have witnessed the same issues when testing performance for the same application, game streaming. Cheap switches can have up to 5ms latency, but a higher grade switch should be
@cmoullasnet 8 місяців тому
We do a lot of VoIP work and this is exactly why we don’t touch these.
@daveonezero6258 8 місяців тому
I’d like a tear down and see if there is anything sketchy.
@JKGarageBMW 8 місяців тому
Going to order the VIMIN 2.5 Gbps w/ 2x SFP+ -- does anyone know what transceiver they want?
@TheHalo294 8 місяців тому
I love that swtich content.
@einsteinx2 8 місяців тому
Lol I just ordered the recommended QNAP 4 port 2.5gbe + 2 port 10gb sfp+ the other day for double the price of these new ones, it hasn’t even been delivered yet haha. Ultimately I think I’m going to keep it as it’s still relatively inexpensive and is a well known brand, but of course this video comes out 2 days after I put off buying the switch for months 😂
@ServeTheHomeVideo 8 місяців тому
I think there is still value to getting a switch that has regulatory markings and such from a bigger brand like QNAP.
@einsteinx2 8 місяців тому
@@ServeTheHomeVideo yep agreed. If the QNAP was like $300 or something I’d probably return it and take the chance on one of these, but for $130 it’s already very reasonable and as you said there’s value in more “legit” products/companies.
@DominicFlynn 8 місяців тому
I wanna see the managed 2.5G switches.
@MrNoobed 8 місяців тому
Now i need that xgpon sfp and the ability to fast talk my ftth provider...
@versita3827 7 місяців тому
I'd love a cheap 2.5GbE switch with 10Gbase-T uplinks. I don't use SFP+ on any of my equipment right now so it's kind of annoying to have to buy a SFP+ to 10Gbase-T converter even if they're not that expensive.
@J0k3r399 6 місяців тому
Would be interesting to know the chip used in these 4x2.5 + 2xSFP+ switches.
@PolymorphicBytes 3 місяці тому
I have the Yangley 4 port. It works well. My only complaint is that with many of these cheaper units it's hard to find one with many fast ports. You often find that when you buy a unit with more ports, the extra ports are slow 1GB. The reason for this is because these switches cap out quickly. They have fairly low capacity overall. The performance will drop significantly once you start plugging too many things into it. Don't even be fooled into thinking that daisy chaining them will help. Many consumers do not realize that switches have a total capacity and only focus on the advertised ports speeds.
@ServeTheHomeVideo 3 місяці тому
We have a unit coming that fixes that.
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